Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)
i'll have a go at mixing a set of wildpitch. i've been meaning to put a new mix up at my site for a while. james www.jbucknell.com Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com To [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/04 05:24 PM cc placid [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Kurzius [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat) On Jul 25, 2004, at 9:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as much as i love the wild pitch sound, it wasn't a sound that had much potential to grow and mutate. without a skilled hand at the controls the driving sound of wildpitch can so easily veer into the progressive/techy realm. agreed. Still i'd love it if someone on 313 would do a 'best of Wild Pitch' definitive tracks mix (of course all open to individual DJ interpretation, mind) so I can learn some of the oldies, I only have a handful myself and the trend largely passed me by, and/or i was just unaware of the sub-genre called 'wild pitch'... I don't even have that much by Pierre come to think of it... i do remember a metric ton of crappy PowerMusic / SexTrax records that sort of turned me off, they came out relentlessly and pretty much over the line of cheese for me at the time. But i'm sure some of the early stuff that was derived from is more redeeming? was it a strictly chicago thing or how/when did NYC get involved? Just thru Strictly Rhythm releasing soem or what? Sorry i'm late on this thread.. and who's up for doing that mix? peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com ForwardSourceID:NT0001054E
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I have to think that an entire Wild Pitch set would get fairly tedious. This is supposed to be driving, anthemic stuff, I've always saved it for the peak of a set although it sounds really cool to mix two or maybe three back to back. I have a whole bunch of Wild Pitch-ish stuff like Oscar G's remix of Funky Green Dogs Body, Spank da Monkey Shake It Up (cheese, but sublime cheese), various Danell Dixon tracks (he was a Pierre understudy of sorts for a while), G.O.D. Unlimited, a couple of Blakkat ones, DJ Duke, and some of the less formulaic Siesta tracks. And do I have to? ya, I have to mention it -- London X-press. But hearing Generate Power on a Really Big Sound System at 3:30 am is kind of my peak house music experience . . . fh
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i basically agree, it won't have much variation. but it certainly doesn't have to be all anthemic stuff - i don't even think i have generate power or atom bomb. james www.jbucknell.com Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] ta.comTo 313@hyperreal.org 28/07/04 07:00 AM cc Subject Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat) I have to think that an entire Wild Pitch set would get fairly tedious. This is supposed to be driving, anthemic stuff, I've always saved it for the peak of a set although it sounds really cool to mix two or maybe three back to back. I have a whole bunch of Wild Pitch-ish stuff like Oscar G's remix of Funky Green Dogs Body, Spank da Monkey Shake It Up (cheese, but sublime cheese), various Danell Dixon tracks (he was a Pierre understudy of sorts for a while), G.O.D. Unlimited, a couple of Blakkat ones, DJ Duke, and some of the less formulaic Siesta tracks. And do I have to? ya, I have to mention it -- London X-press. But hearing Generate Power on a Really Big Sound System at 3:30 am is kind of my peak house music experience . . . fh ForwardSourceID:NT000105FE
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On Jul 25, 2004, at 9:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as much as i love the wild pitch sound, it wasn't a sound that had much potential to grow and mutate. without a skilled hand at the controls the driving sound of wildpitch can so easily veer into the progressive/techy realm. agreed. Still i'd love it if someone on 313 would do a 'best of Wild Pitch' definitive tracks mix (of course all open to individual DJ interpretation, mind) so I can learn some of the oldies, I only have a handful myself and the trend largely passed me by, and/or i was just unaware of the sub-genre called 'wild pitch'... I don't even have that much by Pierre come to think of it... i do remember a metric ton of crappy PowerMusic / SexTrax records that sort of turned me off, they came out relentlessly and pretty much over the line of cheese for me at the time. But i'm sure some of the early stuff that was derived from is more redeeming? was it a strictly chicago thing or how/when did NYC get involved? Just thru Strictly Rhythm releasing soem or what? Sorry i'm late on this thread.. and who's up for doing that mix? peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)
The first Wild Pitch mix I heard was of a Sven Vath track, of all things. DJ Pierre kept busy in the early 90s! I've never really heard the style described with any precision. Anyone want to take a crack? I've also heard the term 'Wild Pitch' for the beatmatching technique where you throw a record on, cue it and let it go once, and then do everything else with the pitch slider. I don't think that has anything to do with DJ Pierre.
Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)
On Jul 26, 2004, at 6:15 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: DJ Pierre's Atom Bomb on Guerilla and his remix of DiY's Hothead on Warp are also killer Wild Pitch tracks Dave Clarked played the SH*T out of Atom Bomb... never gets old to me. Also didn't that DiY record have a DJ Pierre remix on it too? Is that the one with the photos of the nomadic outdoor parties on the jacket cover? I seem to remember some chicago producer credits on a remix or something.. it's been awhile since i dusted that one off. peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)
DJ Pierre's Atom Bomb on Guerilla and his remix of DiY's Hothead on Warp are also killer Wild Pitch tracks Dave Clarked played the SH*T out of Atom Bomb... never gets old to me. Also didn't that DiY record have a DJ Pierre remix on it too? DUH, sorry Robert, just re-read your very line i quoted and i see you were talking 'bout that remix afterall.. :P
Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)
Kent williams wrote on Tue, 27 Jul 2004 about following: I've never really heard the style described with any precision. Anyone want to take a crack? It's sort of slowly building hypnotic style that uses simple vocal samples to massive destruction on dancefloor.. photon inc: project blast anyone? have a blast, blast, have a blast, blast blast have a blast etc etc forever. tracks are long, almost all of them are more than 10 minutes, some even nearly 15. think of it like continuation of phuture - acid trax without the 303 and with more sophisticated production. same song structure and everything. tempo was usually around 120-125. sakke -- It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
RE: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)
the best (only?) detroit wildpitch release: dance fever 'out on the dancefloor' (piled witch mix). although that feeling might not be univerally shared - i have cleared a dancefloor with it. as much as i love the wild pitch sound, it wasn't a sound that had much potential to grow and mutate. without a skilled hand at the controls the driving sound of wildpitch can so easily veer into the progressive/techy realm. some of felix's releases were heading in that direction. some favourites: (all s.r.) phuture rise from your grave phuture inside out (an underappreciated classic!) pierre fire drill james www.jbucknell.com Dan Kurzius [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 23/07/04 02:57 PM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat Yeah the wild pitch sound was on it's way out when rise from your grave dropped. The Phuture guys did release Spirit on Strictly Rhythm and Pierre dropped What Is House Muzik on Emotive a couple of years later but not much beyond that really came out. At least anything I've seen beyond that has just been repressing of the original classics. If anyone knows of any records I might have missed I'd love to hear about them! I think labels such as DJ Duke's Sex Trax and even DJAX-UP were partly to blame for the downfall. Duke was big on the wild pitch sound and DJAX-UP was big on the Chicago tip. From what I saw people jumped all over those imprints, me included. Unfortunately many of the projects were less melodic and more techno, which influenced many wild pitch producers to start cranking out banging techno records versus staying true to the original wild pitch style. Granted I liked the banging stuff, many other labels were already putting out techno of that nature so I personally didn't like to see the older Chicago producers who understood the Wild Pitch formula going that route. -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:49 AM To: 'Dan Kurzius'; 'Stewart Caig'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat I went to see dj Pierre in London when he was pioneering the wildpitch sound.. I asked him if he was going to be doing anymore acid and he said no..cos he wanted to concentrate on the wildpitch thing He had just released 'rise from your grave'... Fantasy girl was in 87. Are u saying it was wildpitch sound in between then cos if it was. I missed it. -Original Message- From: Dan Kurzius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 July 2004 13:45 To: Stewart Caig; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat The only time I heard him spin was with Robert Hood at a London gig many years ago. I think he had just started Clashback records and it was at the start of the whole WildPitch thing. I have to correct something that was mentioned here real fast :) Legend has it that Flex got his production start by sitting in and contributing keyboard on Pierre's Fantasy Girl project http://www.discogs.com/release/132582 in the late 80's. Within a year of that The Wild Pitch sound was alive and kicking, Clashbackk dropped circa 96'. The Wild Pitch sound was brought to a broader audience by labels such as Strictly Rhythm around the time Clashbackk was started, but unfortuntely the sound was dying off when projects such as Rise From Your Grave hit. Kind of singled the beginning of the end :( We used to go crazy to Wild Pitch records in the late 80's/early 90's, that sound has always been one of my favorites, I'd love to see a resergence in it. Does anyone know if there are any recent tracks in that vain floating around that are worth grabbing? Cheers dK www.latenightessentials.com ForwardSourceID:NT00010172
RE: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)
I've never actually seen anyone describe what the wild pitch sound is, but I certainly know it when I hear it, and it's a central part of my DJ style. There are dozens of records with something of that sound, most don't have the wild pitch name since Pierre more or less had the franchise, but what I like about it is it's anthemic without being completely cliche. Although it can definitely veer off into cheese. I miss the days when the market for house music was a lot more wide-ranging than now. Sure, there's a lot of variety in what's in the record bins, but just listen to the stale identikit dreck that usually gets played. fh
Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)
If i recon correctly wild pitch means a track is beeing recorded without arrangement, only by freaking on the knobs and pitches of a mixing console. That would also underline the rather flowing character of these tracks. My WP favourites besides Rise from your grave: what is house music by pierre on emotive got me burning up by maurice (pierre) on s.r. fall by pierre on s.r. as well and of course a feeling that i know by pierre on this label i don't remember. Ronny Fred Heutte wrote: I've never actually seen anyone describe what the wild pitch sound is, but I certainly know it when I hear it, and it's a central part of my DJ style.
RE: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat)
DJ Pierre's Atom Bomb on Guerilla and his remix of DiY's Hothead on Warp are also killer Wild Pitch tracks -Original Message- From: Ronny Pries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:11 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313)wildpitch (was Felix Da Housecat) If i recon correctly wild pitch means a track is beeing recorded without arrangement, only by freaking on the knobs and pitches of a mixing console. That would also underline the rather flowing character of these tracks. My WP favourites besides Rise from your grave: what is house music by pierre on emotive got me burning up by maurice (pierre) on s.r. fall by pierre on s.r. as well and of course a feeling that i know by pierre on this label i don't remember. Ronny Fred Heutte wrote: I've never actually seen anyone describe what the wild pitch sound is, but I certainly know it when I hear it, and it's a central part of my DJ style. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
