RE: [313] AMG Criteria
At 06:22 PM 2/7/2002 -0500, you wrote: It is entirely up to the editor, who is influenced by the publisher and their concerns about the market they are targeting. I'd never presume about your experiences, so *please* don't presume about ours. AMG has never received any type of suggestion, concerning direction or inclusions, from any outside source (including our publisher), and would refuse to accept any given. Our publisher accepts exactly what we give them -- which of course means that any and all complaints about inclusions or treatment can be laid at our feet. As John is a full-timer, or much closer to it than my freelancing self, let me clarify a few things. The bulk of AMG's writers do not receive assignments. We request articles - a review of this record, a bio of this artists - and they approve/deny. I have never had a request denied, even if it was a request to write an article on a limited run noise record of 1000 or 2000 copies (i.e. for a limited interest/audience.) They give their writers a lot of freedom, and I've never received a Re-write that article or Don't write about request. Given that, I was not involved in the editing of AMG's Electronica guide, so I have no say about what was included there. However, as John said, it isn't a guide to techno. It's a guide to electronica. For better or worse, that term includes people like Moby, Fluke, The Chemical Brothers, and other popular electronica acts. Since the writers tend to be techno fans, a lot of these electronica acts get grudging or negative reviews, but in order for the book to complete its purported purpose, these reviews have to be included. Josh Landau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] AMG Criteria
Was flipping through my copy of the All Music Guide to Electronica last night, hoping to find something on Vince Watson, Brian Zentz, DJ Skull, Mundo Muzique... But there is no info on these people in the book. If your are looking for info Richie Hawtin, Derrick May or f*cking Moby, it's all in there, obviously, but also names you (me) wouldn't expect like Michael James, Frank de Groodt Astralasia. So I began to wonder what the criteria are to put an asrtist/DJ/group in a book like this one? Does he/she have to be famous? Sold at least 20.000 copies of a single/album? Major impact on the development of the dance scene in general? But apparently you have a major influence on the development of dance music when you have a mixed CD out Boxed / Global Underground. Any thoughts? Ideas? W -- The information in this Internet email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this Internet email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this Internet email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing ING Barings' terms of business or client engagement letter. Visit us at www.ingbarings.com -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] AMG Criteria
You might want to try the Rough Guide to Techno. It's got a pretty good, and relevant selection, one of those books which you can flick endlessly back an forth between artists. Problem is I keep looking at it before I leave for work. So just as I'm about to leave on time it's ... ah! Sunrise Society... Was flipping through my copy of the All Music Guide to Electronica last night, hoping to find something on Vince Watson, Brian Zentz, DJ Skull, Mundo Muzique... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] AMG Criteria
If your are looking for info Richie Hawtin, Derrick May or f*cking Moby, it's all in there, obviously, but also names you (me) wouldn't expect like Michael James, Frank de Groodt Astralasia. Yes, there's a reason we didn't call it the All Music Guide to Techno... ; There *are* hundreds of 313 names in there (many who aren't in the Rough Guide) and we're probably heaviest on techno, but we did have to scrimp to fit all the other people out there, ones who've either done something we judged fits under the electronica umbrella, or had an earlier impact on the sound. AMG is a listeners guide, so we don't leave artists out just because they're popular or we don't like their music -- though we definitely take bad music to task. But apparently you have a major influence on the development of dance music when you have a mixed CD out Boxed / Global Underground. Well of course not, but for the people who don't know anything about dance music and want to figure out what Digweed or Sasha or maybe even (heaven forbid) Danny Tenaglia is doing, we'll tell them what's it all about and if it's any cop. John NP: Flying Burrito Brothers (briefly considered but later dropped for AMG to Electronica) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] AMG Criteria
So I began to wonder what the criteria are to put an asrtist/DJ/group in a book like this one? Does he/she have to be famous? Sold at least 20.000 copies of a single/album? Major impact on the development of the dance scene in general? It is entirely up to the editor, who is influenced by the publisher and their concerns about the market they are targeting. A few years ago I was asked by the editor of one of those books to compile a list of essential/important electronic artists, and either write their bios myself or find people who could help out. I put a lot of work into narrowing down a list of 120 or so, but before I could see how many of those I could get good bios and discographies for, the editor insisted that I include only bands that had domestic releases that were currently in-print on CD. Then he returned my list with about 3/4 of the artists removed and with another 30 or so added. The adds included bands like Aquarhythms and Fluke, which, while not horrible artists, were certainly not in my top 120. I blew off the project and never took another one like it again. - Mike mike j. brown, fourthought.com | xml/xslt: http://skew.org/xml/ denver/boulder, colorado, usa | personal: http://hyperreal.org/~mike/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] AMG Criteria
It is entirely up to the editor, who is influenced by the publisher and their concerns about the market they are targeting. I'd never presume about your experiences, so *please* don't presume about ours. AMG has never received any type of suggestion, concerning direction or inclusions, from any outside source (including our publisher), and would refuse to accept any given. Our publisher accepts exactly what we give them -- which of course means that any and all complaints about inclusions or treatment can be laid at our feet. A few years ago I was asked by the editor of one of those books to compile a list of essential/important electronic artists, and either write their bios myself or find people who could help out. Which one of those books?? Since I've been here six years, I'm safe in assuming you meant one of those types of books, not AMG specifically. I put a lot of work into narrowing down a list of 120 or so, but before I could see how many of those I could get good bios and discographies for, the editor insisted that I include only bands that had domestic releases that were currently in-print on CD. Yikes, that *is* a horror story...sorry your experience was so negative -- obviously the guy was a hack who didn't know a thing about the scene. AMG's always been given complete freedom (and wouldn't accept less) to write anything we want about everything we want. Just clearing up what may have been a few mistaken assumptions... John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
