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On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 01:32:43PM -0500, miss lauryn g wrote: the second coming was his second party. gotta love dumb ohio promoters. yeah, i hate those dumb ohioans ;) michael -- e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c: +1.614.260.6716 u: www.ele-mental.org Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There was this one wide eyed kid from somewhere like Ohio who told me Paul Oakenfold is gonna play as a suprise. I had to explain to him a few things, like, dude, trust me, that ain't gonna happen. It was disconcerting coming from an Australian. But US ravers are far less annoying than ours. I was actually quite impressed by the calibre of the US raver. Say what you like! At least they were getting down to Kenny Larkin and K Hand. actually about one out of ten people i met that weekend trying to get them to sign the petition. one out of five were pissed because there was no progressive house. go figure. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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They were getting down to K. Larkin and K. Hand because they weren't given any way out! (Those were GREAT sets, weren't they :) Actually I felt the raver quotient was less annoying at the DEMF this year. Maybe it was the weird weather, or just that everyone knew better how to meld with the actual scene of Hart Plaza, rather than go through the motions of kids-in-dark-warehouses-wearing-candee. I'm still waiting for the truly great set that makes *everyone* go wooo! Some have come close, but nobody has claimed the prize yet. You all know what I mean ... There are great sets, and there are great sets where everybody in the house is *down*. phred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Here, they would stand still or leave or not come or whinge. People have to start somewhere, not everyone is born with amazing musical taste. :) They were getting down to K. Larkin and K. Hand because they weren't given any way out! (Those were GREAT sets, weren't they :) Actually I felt the raver quotient was less annoying at the DEMF this year. Maybe it was the weird weather, or just that everyone knew better how to meld with the actual scene of Hart Plaza, rather than go through the motions of kids-in-dark-warehouses-wearing-candee. I'm still waiting for the truly great set that makes *everyone* go wooo! Some have come close, but nobody has claimed the prize yet. You all know what I mean ... There are great sets, and there are great sets where everybody in the house is *down*. phred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You're not gonna get really amazing sets until the space between the crowd and DJ is worked out. This is one of few things I had a problem with at the DEMF. It's nothing to do with the DJs, the music, but the set-up. You need the right setup to create a vibe. That's why the after parties were so special, they were intimate andyou could feel it. I even liked St Andrews Hall, at least you can see and feel. DJs like Kenny, Stacey and Laurent are very interactive (I only say these as I have seen they play really memorable sets). You couldn't even see Stacey's face because of some wack banner at the stage near the river (forgot its name - was it Motor?) and watching dude is such a treat. Unless they borrow some of DJ Rush's platform boots or something. Plus in the arena they need to use those screens. It was a set up for a rock star, not DJ culture. My favourite stage was the one that Eddie Fowkles and Alton Miller played on as it was close to the people and almost at their level. Or even the underground one. I'm still waiting for the truly great set that makes *everyone* go wooo! Some have come close, but nobody has claimed the prize yet. You all know what I mean ... There are great sets, and there are great sets where everybody in the house is *down*. phred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hmmm, although I will agree that set up is important, I also feel that the dj should be able to play and be interactive with crowds whatever set up is there. Rock star or no rock star. Think about any other huge, open-air event. You gotta rock! The real problem is the damn screen playing film loops instead of projecting what the performer is doing and/or djs who can't keep the groove going in a open-air set up (i.e. jim masters). g. P.S. Cy, I owe you a email...been crazy busy. Cyclone Wehner wrote: You're not gonna get really amazing sets until the space between the crowd and DJ is worked out. This is one of few things I had a problem with at the DEMF. It's nothing to do with the DJs, the music, but the set-up. You need the right setup to create a vibe. That's why the after parties were so special, they were intimate andyou could feel it. I even liked St Andrews Hall, at least you can see and feel. DJs like Kenny, Stacey and Laurent are very interactive (I only say these as I have seen they play really memorable sets). You couldn't even see Stacey's face because of some wack banner at the stage near the river (forgot its name - was it Motor?) and watching dude is such a treat. Unless they borrow some of DJ Rush's platform boots or something. Plus in the arena they need to use those screens. It was a set up for a rock star, not DJ culture. My favourite stage was the one that Eddie Fowkles and Alton Miller played on as it was close to the people and almost at their level. Or even the underground one. I'm still waiting for the truly great set that makes *everyone* go wooo! Some have come close, but nobody has claimed the prize yet. You all know what I mean ... There are great sets, and there are great sets where everybody in the house is *down*. phred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But US ravers are far less annoying than ours. I was actually quite impressed by the calibre of the US raver. Say what you like! At least they were getting down to Kenny Larkin and K Hand. if you are talking about ravers then they were well educated. i agree here with lauryn, you got to know your past, not to have some big respect and serve better. from that knowleg you create your musical taste. at the end i comfort my self, by looking in my parents, in their youth they were ravers, rockers in full, nice music dont know nothing about it and at the and, they were just stop listening . and ok. today i see ravers like people that have to belong somewhere in society, after some time, when they find them self, they not gonna care anymore who is carl craig, and who is paul oakenfold.(when that happens ill be happiest man on earth). so why do you people care about them? and about musical knowlege, i live and play in croatia, first time i have oportunity to talk with someone about music was last year with robert(marlek from the list), and this year in Zadar with some guy from NYC. b. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm still waiting for the truly great set that makes *everyone* go wooo! Some have come close, but nobody has claimed the prize yet. You all know what I mean ... There are great sets, and there are great sets where everybody in the house is *down*. richie hawtin- control. I still have yet to sort out the immensity of that set in my small mind. **so** close to perfection. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well... To offer a counterpoint to Mr. Giannelli, I've worked with Planetraver quite a bit and have had no problems with them. Period. For other references, speak with Disco D, Minx, DJ Seoul, Eclipse (Greg Montgomery), Wilhelm K, and Laura Hardgrove. This was but one unfortunate situation of theirs. Christian Bloch, Ryan Brogan, DJ Godfather, Disco D, myself, G-Major, and Derek Plaslaiko (among others) were all at the last TechMoto Fest and I got paid for my services without a problem. BTW, Planet Raver is/was not the sole promoter of this event. Just had to get that out. Labwerx Music http://www.geocities.com/labwerx - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [313] dodgy Canton promoters Should always get references from other DJs 1st before signing a contract with these promoters. David e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] u: http://www.hkrave.com At 03:36 PM 2001/9/6 -0400, Fred Giannelli wrote: These people booked me, signed a contract, never paid the deposit, never return phone calls, encountered problems with city officials and canceled the event. If they had any class they would have forfeited the deposit instead of just screwing up my scheduling and finances. And they still haven't taken down their website. http://www.techmotofest.com/lineup.html I repeat I will NOT be appearing @ this event. Chuck Shattlerow Planet Honda Racing 44600 Michigan Ave. Canton, MI 48185 R.J. Johnson Planet Raver Productions 49742 Plymouth Way Plymouth, MI 48170 Never trust a production company with the word raver in it, no matter how much money they offer you. Telepathic regards, The Kooky Scientist -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am much more of a ranter...than a raver overheard in a battle of witticisms at an over- corporatized Detroit event this past year -humbly offered From: Mike Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] dodgy Canton promoters Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 17:41:40 -0400 Never trust a production company with the word raver in it, no matter how much money they offer you. 313 quote of the year. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the best quote i heard this year was by some raver who went to DEMF... who's carl craig? :) lauryn. ++ ==Lauryn M. Goller at exactly which point did you realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?- black star +++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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...and those ravers are actually our next generation!! Isn't that a joke or what? At 09:49 AM 2001/9/7 -0500, miss lauryn g wrote: the best quote i heard this year was by some raver who went to DEMF... who's carl craig? :) lauryn. ++ ==Lauryn M. Goller at exactly which point did you realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?- black star +++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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actually about one out of ten people i met that weekend trying to get them to sign the petition. one out of five were pissed because there was no progressive house. go figure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:52 AM To: miss lauryn g; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] dodgy Canton promoters ...and those ravers are actually our next generation!! Isn't that a joke or what? At 09:49 AM 2001/9/7 -0500, miss lauryn g wrote: the best quote i heard this year was by some raver who went to DEMF... who's carl craig? :) lauryn. ++ ==Lauryn M. Goller at exactly which point did you realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?- black star +++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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why so surprised that contemporary ravers don't know who carl craig is? he doesn't make rave music, he doesn't play raves. 11 years ago a clued up raver could have been expected to have heard of him. but that's 11 years ago. in 1988 when i was bugging out to adonis and jarley jackmaster funk i didn't know who the hell some disco queen from 1977 like tana gardner or sylvester was. only old people knew who they were. james www.jbucknell.com davidcheng/@dongdubo.com davidcheng on 09/07/2001 10:51:36 AM To: miss lauryn g [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] dodgy Canton promoters ...and those ravers are actually our next generation!! Isn't that a joke or what? At 09:49 AM 2001/9/7 -0500, miss lauryn g wrote: the best quote i heard this year was by some raver who went to DEMF... who's carl craig? :) lauryn. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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carl was playing raves in detroit not too long ago.. (the last one i remember being a big one for plurkids @ the theater w/sneak) not to mention he co-created demf, and owns planet e. he's pretty high profile.. this particular specimen of candus ravius plurificus could have been on heavy doses of meth and not even remembered the names of their own household pets at the time.. -Original Message- From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] dodgy Canton promoters why so surprised that contemporary ravers don't know who carl craig is? he doesn't make rave music, he doesn't play raves. 11 years ago a clued up raver could have been expected to have heard of him. but that's 11 years ago. in 1988 when i was bugging out to adonis and jarley jackmaster funk i didn't know who the hell some disco queen from 1977 like tana gardner or sylvester was. only old people knew who they were. james www.jbucknell.com davidcheng/@dongdubo.com davidcheng on 09/07/2001 10:51:36 AM To: miss lauryn g [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] dodgy Canton promoters ...and those ravers are actually our next generation!! Isn't that a joke or what? At 09:49 AM 2001/9/7 -0500, miss lauryn g wrote: the best quote i heard this year was by some raver who went to DEMF... who's carl craig? :) lauryn. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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oh it didn't surprise me as much as this kid asking kurt from drop bass if the second coming was his second party. gotta love dumb ohio promoters. especially ones that fall out of their limo coming to a party cuz they're in too big of a k hole. i just get a lil salty when dumb kids don't know the history. it's something i always felt obligated to learn. respect for the elders in a sense. knowing where it all comes from and having a good idea of where it is going. *shrugs* not just MY favorite music but a good comprehensive knowledge of music in general in the scene (and otherwise). not that i'm all well versed in opera or happy hardcore either, but i at least have SOME semblance of a clue in life. that's just me though and my approach on all things. of course i shouldn't expect others to do the same or be surprised if they don't care. i guess i just get disappointed. lauryn. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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These people booked me, signed a contract, never paid the deposit, never return phone calls, encountered problems with city officials and canceled the event. If they had any class they would have forfeited the deposit instead of just screwing up my scheduling and finances. And they still haven't taken down their website. http://www.techmotofest.com/lineup.html I repeat I will NOT be appearing @ this event. Chuck Shattlerow Planet Honda Racing 44600 Michigan Ave. Canton, MI 48185 R.J. Johnson Planet Raver Productions 49742 Plymouth Way Plymouth, MI 48170 Never trust a production company with the word raver in it, no matter how much money they offer you. Telepathic regards, The Kooky Scientist -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Never trust a production company with the word raver in it, no matter how much money they offer you. 313 quote of the year. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Should always get references from other DJs 1st before signing a contract with these promoters. David e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] u: http://www.hkrave.com At 03:36 PM 2001/9/6 -0400, Fred Giannelli wrote: These people booked me, signed a contract, never paid the deposit, never return phone calls, encountered problems with city officials and canceled the event. If they had any class they would have forfeited the deposit instead of just screwing up my scheduling and finances. And they still haven't taken down their website. http://www.techmotofest.com/lineup.html I repeat I will NOT be appearing @ this event. Chuck Shattlerow Planet Honda Racing 44600 Michigan Ave. Canton, MI 48185 R.J. Johnson Planet Raver Productions 49742 Plymouth Way Plymouth, MI 48170 Never trust a production company with the word raver in it, no matter how much money they offer you. Telepathic regards, The Kooky Scientist -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
