RE: [313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20)
I just got one thing to say in this discussion first of all I'm a big fan of Kenny's music, but it don't really like his racial standpoints. And about the copying thing it would be easy to say that without Kraftwerk or even other german producers (E2-E4) there wouldn't be Techno. But I won't. All I'm interested in is hearing good music (and reading about good music) and that's important. And just saying that they're copying TSS TSS. That's no argument, everyone is influenced by good music (well unfortunatly not everyone ;-)) it is what you do with these influences that count there are people like Aphex Twin Christian Vogel who do completely different things. JayCee Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 8 augustus 2000 20:49 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20) I find myself wondering where you guys are coming from... It seems your opinions regarding the state of music from Detroit is superficial at best...Where would your avant-guarde dj's be without someone to proceed them..to give them something to copy?Everyone has influeneces ..but in regards to techno those from other than the Detroit area are doing exactly what the Beatles did with rock-and-roll ..copying a black mans soul and claiming as their own and the uneducated pop music fans just consuming whatever's directed at them.All of the e_notes regarding this topic show an extreme lack of knowlegde regarding music from Detroit and it's quality and to prove this I need only say one name Kenny Dixon jrever heard of him? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20)
I find myself wondering where you guys are coming from... It seems your opinions regarding the state of music from Detroit is superficial at best...Where would your avant-guarde dj's be without someone to proceed them..to give them something to copy?Everyone has influeneces ..but in regards to techno those from other than the Detroit area are doing exactly what the Beatles did with rock-and-roll ..copying a black mans soul and claiming as their own and the uneducated pop music fans just consuming whatever's directed at them.All of the e_notes regarding this topic show an extreme lack of knowlegde regarding music from Detroit and it's quality and to prove this I need only say one name Kenny Dixon jrever heard of him? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20)
Well, we are not jumping on the offense that's for sure. I seem to recall the beginning of this thread not naming ANY specific names, and few people will deny that KDJ has a lot to do with where Detroit electronic music is headed, so chill out. If you're new to this list, maybe listen to people a bit before making accusations and getting people tense about a racial issue that Detroit has seemed to transcend of late. n8 --On Tuesday, August 08, 2000 2:48 PM + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find myself wondering where you guys are coming from... copying a black mans soul and claiming as their own and the uneducated pop music fans just consuming whatever's directed at them.
Re: [313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20)
On 8 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find myself wondering where you guys are coming from... It seems your opinions regarding the state of music from Detroit is superficial at best...Where would your avant-guarde dj's be without someone snip Kenny Dixon jrever heard of him? Hey I'll be the first to admit that I have my head in the sand when it comes to house music, jazzy house, and related producers. Nor do I think that techno producers are any more avant garde than house music producers. I'm sure there's a lot of interesting house, soul, funk, rb, etc. coming out of Detroit these days too. It's unfortunate, but I find that whatever style of music you are into tends to become the center of your universe. I was just talking about Detroit music from a techno perspective. That's why I titled my reply Detroit techno/bread n' butter (bread n' butter because Detroit techno is what this list is based around, not implying that techno is the bread n' butter of Detroit music). Somehow the techno was dropped from that title. As for influences/racial issues, that's a whole new ball of wax (one which is probably best discussed elsewhere, and certainly won't be resolved by debating on a mailing list). Just speaking about music though, I find that it's good to know the roots, but one shouldn't mistake the roots for the tree. g
Re: [313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20)
And on techno perpective all( outside Detroit) are Wanabee Jeff Mills, Wanabee Derick May, Wanabee Kevin Sanderson, Wanabee XXX Detroit producers. Learn your classics. From: gord [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 17:18:37 -0400 (EDT) Hey I'll be the first to admit that I have my head in the sand when it comes to house music, jazzy house, and related producers. Nor do I think that techno producers are any more avant garde than house music producers. I'm sure there's a lot of interesting house, soul, funk, rb, etc. coming out of Detroit these days too. It's unfortunate, but I find that whatever style of music you are into tends to become the center of your universe. I was just talking about Detroit music from a techno perspective Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
