RE: [313] Focus Commercial
has anyone thought that maybe FORD looked out their windows during the D.E.M.F saw all the folks and thought.. there is a market we can exploit!??? surely you jest graham - I think we should anaylze this more (and then some) and then someone from the list here write a Phd on Ford's contribution to techno at a grass roots level. j
RE: [313] Focus Commercial
4 or 5 years ago on this list a couple of ppl mentioned seeing ads for credit cards with a twist on the usual 'j citizen' card-holder name. Instead the adverts showed 'K. Larkin' and 'J. Atkins'.. i think the in-house techno fan angle might be right on there.. :) j I think you're right about that interpretation Dan. It's only if you have prior knowledge of the tune and it's origins that you understand the double meaning of Detroit Techno Ford Focus. What can be said is that someone at the ad agency is a techno fan
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From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you're right about that interpretation Dan. It's only if you have prior knowledge of the tune and it's origins that you understand the double meaning of Detroit Techno Ford Focus. What can be said is that someone at the ad agency is a techno fan. It's usually someone within the ad agency scouting out potential music sourcesnot within the company being advertised. The Ford spot might be a different case, but from my experience in the ad business it works this way. Someone in the ad agency's creative department has a big smile on their face right now because they are a techno fan and they got to finally do what they wanted to...express their love for techno. has anyone thought that maybe FORD looked out their windows during the D.E.M.F saw all the folks and thought.. there is a market we can exploit!??? tan -- graham [tan] wilson - i do because i couldn't care less [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fnord.fishwerx.org/tan
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Is it interesting though , this is a european car in design ,function and powertrainThe Focus was on the marketplace throughout europe ;long before it crossed the big lake to our shores. There really isnt any 'Detroit' technology within this automobile. ummm would it be safe to say that an american design, created in Detroit with typical american/Detroit values would be a more acceptable canidate? Besides these symantics; how does a car , in any way focus on Detroit techno? .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. I also would like to add that out of all the cars they choose to do this commerical with, they chose the one called Focus...Focus on Detroit Techno (music), the Technology and the car. Great commerical, I think. G. In a message dated 11/15/00 1:30:39 PM, Glyph1001 writes: In a message dated 11/15/00 12:49:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike I think the message is this: Detroit Techno signifies Detroit Technology and also the music combined with the idea of that futuristic/dance oriented lifestlyle all rolled up in a car. Alan told me that he was surprised they didn't use Cosmic Cars instead. G l y p h. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
RE: [313] Focus Commercial
YUP! that just about sums it up for me! -Original Message- From: [tan] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 1:59 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: [313] Focus Commercial From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you're right about that interpretation Dan. It's only if you have prior knowledge of the tune and it's origins that you understand the double meaning of Detroit Techno Ford Focus. What can be said is that someone at the ad agency is a techno fan. It's usually someone within the ad agency scouting out potential music sourcesnot within the company being advertised. The Ford spot might be a different case, but from my experience in the ad business it works this way. Someone in the ad agency's creative department has a big smile on their face right now because they are a techno fan and they got to finally do what they wanted to...express their love for techno. has anyone thought that maybe FORD looked out their windows during the D.E.M.F saw all the folks and thought.. there is a market we can exploit!??? tan -- graham [tan] wilson - i do because i couldn't care less [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fnord.fishwerx.org/tan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Focus Commercial
There is perhaps one other interpretation to this... Detroit techno is quintessential, and perhaps Ford is drawing that relation to the Focus, it being a quintessential car to that company... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [313] Focus Commercial I think you're right about that interpretation Dan. It's only if you have prior knowledge of the tune and it's origins that you understand the double meaning of Detroit Techno Ford Focus. What can be said is that someone at the ad agency is a techno fan. It's usually someone within the ad agency scouting out potential music sourcesnot within the company being advertised. The Ford spot might be a different case, but from my experience in the ad business it works this way. Someone in the ad agency's creative department has a big smile on their face right now because they are a techno fan and they got to finally do what they wanted to...express their love for techno. Fred From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:38:16 -0500 I think it's supposed to be a broader interpretation for those outside Detroit or fans of the music -- think shorthand for detroit technology. Somewhat of a nebulous headline, but I've read a lot worse. -d i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:27:48 -0500 Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 16 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it interesting though , this is a european car in design ,function and powertrainThe Focus was on the marketplace throughout europe ;long before it crossed the big lake to our shores. There really isnt any 'Detroit' technology within this automobile. ummm would it be safe to say that an american design, created in Detroit with typical american/Detroit values would be a more acceptable canidate? Nopegiven the fluidity of the artform itself (which originated in Detroit, fled to Europe, then came back to Detroit...with stops in Iowa among others along the way), I think it fits nicely. Besides these symantics; how does a car , in any way focus on Detroit techno? I seem to remember an early interview with Juan Atkins talking about how he was much more interested in Ford's robots than he was in Gordy's music. (Berry Gordy, the founder of motown) peace lks
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judging by the positive response on this whole Ford thing over the last week or so, i'm willing to bet that at least half, if not all, of the members of this list work for Ford :) -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: [Re: [313] Focus Commercial] On 16 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it interesting though , this is a european car in design ,function and powertrainThe Focus was on the marketplace throughout europe ;long before it crossed the big lake to our shores. There really isnt any 'Detroit' technology within this automobile. ummm would it be safe to say that an american design, created in Detroit with typical american/Detroit values would be a more acceptable canidate? Nopegiven the fluidity of the artform itself (which originated in Detroit, fled to Europe, then came back to Detroit...with stops in Iowa among others along the way), I think it fits nicely. Besides these symantics; how does a car , in any way focus on Detroit techno? I seem to remember an early interview with Juan Atkins talking about how he was much more interested in Ford's robots than he was in Gordy's music. (Berry Gordy, the founder of motown) peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i can't tell a lie...my father and my brother work for ford. sue me. ;)
Re: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
ok i havent been totally following this thread, is the music cheesy like some said or not? i just read that detroit news article on rolando and it said the ad features no ufos. huh? could there be 313 members possibly that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, et machina wrote: said the ad features no ufos. huh? could there be 313 members possibly that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? educate me: i never heard there was remix? i only know the version that is on Retro Techno/Detroit Definitive cd. and i've always thought it's the original version since it's the only record i've seen that track. i missed the 12 as i didn't know that my friend who was selling bunch of 12 away didn't tell me he had it and he sold it to somebody else. well you can't have everything can't you? sakke -- working at http://www.teraflops.com/ website at http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/
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that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? BTW - on what comp can I find the original version ?(please don't hit me on the head, one year ago I had never heard the name of Juan Atkins) Gwendal
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It's not the original that was released 15 years ago, it's sort of a 'modernized edit'. The vocals are left out. I have the original 12 on metroplex from way back and to my knowledge there have not been any remix's put to vinyl. If you would like a good commentary on the ad, read sean deasons previous postings. daveNYC Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? BTW - on what comp can I find the original version ?(please don't hit me on the head, one year ago I had never heard the name of Juan Atkins) Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There is a remixed version on RS' Classics compilation. It has a woeful hard core thing going on that certainly isn't on the original. Jonny. It's not the original that was released 15 years ago, it's sort of a 'modernized edit'. The vocals are left out. I have the original 12 on metroplex from way back and to my knowledge there have not been any remix's put to vinyl. If you would like a good commentary on the ad, read sean deasons previous postings. daveNYC Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? BTW - on what comp can I find the original version ?(please don't hit me on the head, one year ago I had never heard the name of Juan Atkins) Gwendal
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i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:27:48 -0500 Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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I think it's supposed to be a broader interpretation for those outside Detroit or fans of the music -- think shorthand for detroit technology. Somewhat of a nebulous headline, but I've read a lot worse. -d i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:27:48 -0500 Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 11/15/00 12:49:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike I think the message is this: Detroit Techno signifies Detroit Technology and also the music combined with the idea of that futuristic/dance oriented lifestlyle all rolled up in a car. Alan told me that he was surprised they didn't use Cosmic Cars instead. G l y p h.
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P.S. I also would like to add that out of all the cars they choose to do this commerical with, they chose the one called Focus...Focus on Detroit Techno (music), the Technology and the car. Great commerical, I think. G. In a message dated 11/15/00 1:30:39 PM, Glyph1001 writes: In a message dated 11/15/00 12:49:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike I think the message is this: Detroit Techno signifies Detroit Technology and also the music combined with the idea of that futuristic/dance oriented lifestlyle all rolled up in a car. Alan told me that he was surprised they didn't use Cosmic Cars instead. G l y p h.
Re: [313] Focus Commercial
I think you're right about that interpretation Dan. It's only if you have prior knowledge of the tune and it's origins that you understand the double meaning of Detroit Techno Ford Focus. What can be said is that someone at the ad agency is a techno fan. It's usually someone within the ad agency scouting out potential music sourcesnot within the company being advertised. The Ford spot might be a different case, but from my experience in the ad business it works this way. Someone in the ad agency's creative department has a big smile on their face right now because they are a techno fan and they got to finally do what they wanted to...express their love for techno. Fred From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:38:16 -0500 I think it's supposed to be a broader interpretation for those outside Detroit or fans of the music -- think shorthand for detroit technology. Somewhat of a nebulous headline, but I've read a lot worse. -d i just don't understand the end of the commercial: DETROIT TECHNO FORD FOCUS like they meant one and the same. do they want you to think Detroit techno inspired the Ford Focus? seems kinda silly. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Focus Commercial Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:27:48 -0500 Saw the Ford ad last night on fox and it is pretty cool. It seems to be running pretty consistantly during prime time for those wanting to see it here in the states. I checked out the site televisioncommercials.com to see if they added it yet to their site. Maybe if a few more people sent them an email it might get added faster. daveNYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: RE: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
I have a vinyl version of an old network comp (retrotechno: detroit emotions electric) which includes a very strange remix of no ufos. way way too much 808 through the unsequenced delay box on that one. :) -e On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:18:18AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not the original that was released 15 years ago, it's sort of a 'modernized edit'. The vocals are left out. I have the original 12 on metroplex from way back and to my knowledge there have not been any remix's put to vinyl. If you would like a good commentary on the ad, read sean deasons previous postings. daveNYC Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that clueless? if it is in the ad, is it the original or the awful remix from classics..? BTW - on what comp can I find the original version ?(please don't hit me on the head, one year ago I had never heard the name of Juan Atkins) Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos?
i think you can still get the metroplex 12 repress at hardwax.de Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go - Original Message - From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [313] Focus Commercial no ufos? . i missed the 12 as i didn't know that my friend who was selling bunch of 12 away didn't tell me he had it and he sold it to somebody else. well you can't have everything can't you? sakke
