Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks?
v12 wrote on Mon, 6 Feb 2006 about following: house techno 's been raped so many times that techno turned into...deep techno while house became deep house to escape from the negative conotation - not sure if it's funny or not, but surely a weird process to observe. I simply hate deep anything. It just gives everyone chance to label anything they don't understand to this deep something genre, regardless if it's any deep anything. Whatever that then means! I hate it when people come around, hearing great garage house and say deep house! because it just damn well is not deep, it's uplifting, soulful and funky. I think deep anything used to have a meaning in the past: it meant slow building athmospheric tracks that weren't that driving or energetic or uplifting. But nowadays deep is just throwaway anything not trendy. except lots of crappy progressive house is labelled as deep house but; Maybe this deep anything means to most trendy people something cool, more undergroundy stuff, which they really don't like but need to be talking about to keep their trendiness levels up. okay time for morning coffee, that was quite.. messy. sakke
Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks?
the CC remix is good,if not better than that - but i must say that when i hear beatdown the first thing that comes to mind is the CD on 3rd ear,especially the opening tracks by Alston and Miller. +the original 'falling up' or backbone waltz by 3 chairs. isnt carl's rework a bit too floor-friendly for a beatdown track btw? - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? Carl's remix of Theo has all of Berlin going crazy. I read an interview with Andy Vaz of background records saying that Beatdown was all the rage over there now. So what are the best beatdown tracks? And does anyone else like the stuff that's been coming out on Philpot records? Does that count as beatdown, even though it's made by Germans?
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wtf is a beatdown track? didnt like the rework btw, too many one-finger chords... terry brookes is the C2 version of choice(the dub, that is) groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 6 februari 2006 3:09 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? the CC remix is good,if not better than that - but i must say that when i hear beatdown the first thing that comes to mind is the CD on 3rd ear,especially the opening tracks by Alston and Miller. +the original 'falling up' or backbone waltz by 3 chairs. isnt carl's rework a bit too floor-friendly for a beatdown track btw? - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? Carl's remix of Theo has all of Berlin going crazy. I read an interview with Andy Vaz of background records saying that Beatdown was all the rage over there now. So what are the best beatdown tracks? And does anyone else like the stuff that's been coming out on Philpot records? Does that count as beatdown, even though it's made by Germans? The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks?
not that i could define beatdown, although i have a certain dirty, 110bpm kinda housesound in mind, as featured on the mentioned 3rd ear-compilation... my question is another: is there a word for that (actually quite popular) style of house, discribed with too many one-finger chords? cc remix of theo's falling up or ame's rej and there are some more tracks for sure that i can't recall now. like, beatdown trance? ;) c* p.s.: simon, i don't know if it's beatdown what philpot are releasing, but if you mean that it has a similar vibe to some of theo parrish's or kdj's stuff: definitely yes! the german label running back and the stuff from dan electro (from france, i guess) go into that direction, too. Peteri, Jochem schrieb: wtf is a beatdown track? didnt like the rework btw, too many one-finger chords... terry brookes is the C2 version of choice(the dub, that is) groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 6 februari 2006 3:09 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? the CC remix is good,if not better than that - but i must say that when i hear beatdown the first thing that comes to mind is the CD on 3rd ear,especially the opening tracks by Alston and Miller. +the original 'falling up' or backbone waltz by 3 chairs. isnt carl's rework a bit too floor-friendly for a beatdown track btw? - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? Carl's remix of Theo has all of Berlin going crazy. I read an interview with Andy Vaz of background records saying that Beatdown was all the rage over there now. So what are the best beatdown tracks? And does anyone else like the stuff that's been coming out on Philpot records? Does that count as beatdown, even though it's made by Germans? The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Carlos de Brito wrote: is there a word for that (actually quite popular) style of house, discribed with too many one-finger chords? cc remix of theo's falling up or ame's rej and there are some more tracks for sure that i can't recall now. like, beatdown trance? ;) Funny you should ask. My new mix contains those two tracks among others and I was really puzzled when I tried to figure out style for the mix (needed in some boards when posting new mix posts). I couldn't figure the style so I just called the style deepwater. Bad style name I know. Some people said that this kind of style is early 90's trance. Has the circle closed? Link to the mix page: http://www.ken-guru.net/mix_seismimic.shtml -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks?
I guess my understanding of beatdown is similar - slower (ie no faster than mid-120 bpm), deep as hell, soulful with detroit stylings. http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ has a good description, though I wonder if it's simply a micro-genre. I just mention it because I've found a good amount of slower deep stuff recently (eg philpot records' releases) and wondered if there was perhaps more of this stuff that I was unaware of (beyond early house etc which is often slower), and so I thought 313 would be the best folk to ask about it. Please excuse my ignorance and bandying around of a buzzword I read in an interview :-) Client Services CCSU-ISTAR Level 27, Governor Macquarie Tower, Sydney, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 61 2 9228 5501 Facsimile: 61 2 9228 4435 __ This email message, including any attached files, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The NSW Department of Commerce prohibits the right to publish, copy, distribute or disclose any information contained in this email, or its attachments, by any party other than the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the NSW Department of Commerce by email. The views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Department, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of NSW Department of Commerce. The NSW Department of Commerce accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email and recommends that the recipient check this email and any attached files for the presence of viruses. __ Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/06 6:59 PM not that i could define beatdown, although i have a certain dirty, 110bpm kinda housesound in mind, as featured on the mentioned 3rd ear-compilation... my question is another: is there a word for that (actually quite popular) style of house, discribed with too many one-finger chords? cc remix of theo's falling up or ame's rej and there are some more tracks for sure that i can't recall now. like, beatdown trance? ;) c* p.s.: simon, i don't know if it's beatdown what philpot are releasing, but if you mean that it has a similar vibe to some of theo parrish's or kdj's stuff: definitely yes! the german label running back and the stuff from dan electro (from france, i guess) go into that direction, too. Peteri, Jochem schrieb: wtf is a beatdown track? didnt like the rework btw, too many one-finger chords... terry brookes is the C2 version of choice(the dub, that is) groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 6 februari 2006 3:09 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? the CC remix is good,if not better than that - but i must say that when i hear beatdown the first thing that comes to mind is the CD on 3rd ear,especially the opening tracks by Alston and Miller. +the original 'falling up' or backbone waltz by 3 chairs. isnt carl's rework a bit too floor-friendly for a beatdown track btw? - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? Carl's remix of Theo has all of Berlin going crazy. I read an interview with Andy Vaz of background records saying that Beatdown was all the rage over there now. So what are the best beatdown tracks? And does anyone else like the stuff that's been coming out on Philpot records? Does that count as beatdown, even though it's made by Germans? The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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Yeah as per Simon said just now, there is a description of what 'Beatdown' is meant to mean from Third Ear. But I couldn't see it on the site - I remember it was only on the liner notes of the compilation LP. There is an extract on the site though: Is it House? Is it Techno? Just go Deep, all the way Deep...Beatdown deep. I think that it was originally a quote from Eddie Fowlkes. As for the C2 remix being 'too floor-friendly'? I'm puzzled by that comment. To me, whilst (some) tracks called 'Beatdown' are slower than your average techno or house, they're still meant for dancing as well as listening maybe. That was my understanding anyway. The C2 remix reminds me of 'Testan' by Mikkel Metal, and that is 'electronic' music in the best, bearded boffin-esque, moogy, tradition of the 1970s. Ken -Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2006 07:39 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? wtf is a beatdown track? didnt like the rework btw, too many one-finger chords... terry brookes is the C2 version of choice(the dub, that is) groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 6 februari 2006 3:09 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? the CC remix is good,if not better than that - but i must say that when i hear beatdown the first thing that comes to mind is the CD on 3rd ear,especially the opening tracks by Alston and Miller. +the original 'falling up' or backbone waltz by 3 chairs. isnt carl's rework a bit too floor-friendly for a beatdown track btw? - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? Carl's remix of Theo has all of Berlin going crazy. I read an interview with Andy Vaz of background records saying that Beatdown was all the rage over there now. So what are the best beatdown tracks? And does anyone else like the stuff that's been coming out on Philpot records? Does that count as beatdown, even though it's made by Germans? The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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Some other Theo Parrish/KDJ influenced labels would have to include Freude-Am-Tamzen and Soul Phiction - both fairly similar to Philpot. You sometimes find stuff like this on (generally thought of as) clickier labels too. Also check The Mole and LoSoul. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:13 AM Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? I guess my understanding of beatdown is similar - slower (ie no faster than mid-120 bpm), deep as hell, soulful with detroit stylings. http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ has a good description, though I wonder if it's simply a micro-genre. I just mention it because I've found a good amount of slower deep stuff recently (eg philpot records' releases) and wondered if there was perhaps more of this stuff that I was unaware of (beyond early house etc which is often slower), and so I thought 313 would be the best folk to ask about it. Please excuse my ignorance and bandying around of a buzzword I read in an interview :-) Client Services CCSU-ISTAR Level 27, Governor Macquarie Tower, Sydney, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 61 2 9228 5501 Facsimile: 61 2 9228 4435 __ This email message, including any attached files, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The NSW Department of Commerce prohibits the right to publish, copy, distribute or disclose any information contained in this email, or its attachments, by any party other than the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the NSW Department of Commerce by email. The views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Department, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of NSW Department of Commerce. The NSW Department of Commerce accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email and recommends that the recipient check this email and any attached files for the presence of viruses. __ Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/06 6:59 PM not that i could define beatdown, although i have a certain dirty, 110bpm kinda housesound in mind, as featured on the mentioned 3rd ear-compilation... my question is another: is there a word for that (actually quite popular) style of house, discribed with too many one-finger chords? cc remix of theo's falling up or ame's rej and there are some more tracks for sure that i can't recall now. like, beatdown trance? ;) c* p.s.: simon, i don't know if it's beatdown what philpot are releasing, but if you mean that it has a similar vibe to some of theo parrish's or kdj's stuff: definitely yes! the german label running back and the stuff from dan electro (from france, i guess) go into that direction, too. Peteri, Jochem schrieb: wtf is a beatdown track? didnt like the rework btw, too many one-finger chords... terry brookes is the C2 version of choice(the dub, that is) groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 6 februari 2006 3:09 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? the CC remix is good,if not better than that - but i must say that when i hear beatdown the first thing that comes to mind is the CD on 3rd ear,especially the opening tracks by Alston and Miller. +the original 'falling up' or backbone waltz by 3 chairs. isnt carl's rework a bit too floor-friendly for a beatdown track btw? - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? Carl's remix of Theo has all of Berlin going crazy. I read an interview with Andy Vaz of background records saying that Beatdown was all the rage over there now. So what are the best beatdown tracks? And does anyone else like the stuff that's been coming out on Philpot records? Does that count as beatdown, even though it's made by Germans? The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended
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There's a fairly new 2x12 called Electronic Generation which spills over into this category as well. Great stuff. jeff Some other Theo Parrish/KDJ influenced labels would have to include Freude-Am-Tamzen and Soul Phiction - both fairly similar to Philpot. You sometimes find stuff like this on (generally thought of as) clickier labels too. Also check The Mole and LoSoul. === I guess my understanding of beatdown is similar - slower (ie no faster than mid-120 bpm), deep as hell, soulful with detroit stylings. http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ has a good description, though I wonder if it's simply a micro-genre. I just mention it because I've found a good amount of slower deep stuff recently (eg philpot records' releases) and wondered if there was perhaps more of this stuff that I was unaware of (beyond early house etc which is often slower), and so I thought 313 would be the best folk to ask about it.
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very slow housejams... sounds like newbeat newbeatdown? : ) groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: theREALmxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 6 februari 2006 11:53 To: 313 Org Cc: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? There's a fairly new 2x12 called Electronic Generation which spills over into this category as well. Great stuff. jeff Some other Theo Parrish/KDJ influenced labels would have to include Freude-Am-Tamzen and Soul Phiction - both fairly similar to Philpot. You sometimes find stuff like this on (generally thought of as) clickier labels too. Also check The Mole and LoSoul. === I guess my understanding of beatdown is similar - slower (ie no faster than mid-120 bpm), deep as hell, soulful with detroit stylings. http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ has a good description, though I wonder if it's simply a micro-genre. I just mention it because I've found a good amount of slower deep stuff recently (eg philpot records' releases) and wondered if there was perhaps more of this stuff that I was unaware of (beyond early house etc which is often slower), and so I thought 313 would be the best folk to ask about it. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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don't know the exact definition, but two tracks which jump to mind are Yoav B's Energize, as well, Theo Parrish's Dusty Cabinets - Original Message - From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? Some other Theo Parrish/KDJ influenced labels would have to include Freude-Am-Tamzen and Soul Phiction - both fairly similar to Philpot. You sometimes find stuff like this on (generally thought of as) clickier labels too. Also check The Mole and LoSoul. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:13 AM Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? I guess my understanding of beatdown is similar - slower (ie no faster than mid-120 bpm), deep as hell, soulful with detroit stylings. http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ has a good description, though I wonder if it's simply a micro-genre. I just mention it because I've found a good amount of slower deep stuff recently (eg philpot records' releases) and wondered if there was perhaps more of this stuff that I was unaware of (beyond early house etc which is often slower), and so I thought 313 would be the best folk to ask about it. Please excuse my ignorance and bandying around of a buzzword I read in an interview :-) Client Services CCSU-ISTAR Level 27, Governor Macquarie Tower, Sydney, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 61 2 9228 5501 Facsimile: 61 2 9228 4435 __ This email message, including any attached files, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The NSW Department of Commerce prohibits the right to publish, copy, distribute or disclose any information contained in this email, or its attachments, by any party other than the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the NSW Department of Commerce by email. The views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Department, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of NSW Department of Commerce. The NSW Department of Commerce accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email and recommends that the recipient check this email and any attached files for the presence of viruses. __ Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/06 6:59 PM not that i could define beatdown, although i have a certain dirty, 110bpm kinda housesound in mind, as featured on the mentioned 3rd ear-compilation... my question is another: is there a word for that (actually quite popular) style of house, discribed with too many one-finger chords? cc remix of theo's falling up or ame's rej and there are some more tracks for sure that i can't recall now. like, beatdown trance? ;) c* p.s.: simon, i don't know if it's beatdown what philpot are releasing, but if you mean that it has a similar vibe to some of theo parrish's or kdj's stuff: definitely yes! the german label running back and the stuff from dan electro (from france, i guess) go into that direction, too. Peteri, Jochem schrieb: wtf is a beatdown track? didnt like the rework btw, too many one-finger chords... terry brookes is the C2 version of choice(the dub, that is) groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 6 februari 2006 3:09 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? the CC remix is good,if not better than that - but i must say that when i hear beatdown the first thing that comes to mind is the CD on 3rd ear,especially the opening tracks by Alston and Miller. +the original 'falling up' or backbone waltz by 3 chairs. isnt carl's rework a bit too floor-friendly for a beatdown track btw? - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? Carl's remix of Theo has all of Berlin going crazy. I read an interview with Andy Vaz of background records saying that Beatdown was all the rage over there now. So what are the best beatdown tracks? And does anyone else like the stuff that's been coming out on Philpot records? Does that count as beatdown, even though it's made by Germans? The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom
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This is it ! And theses three ambassadors of BeatDown will perform this thursday 9th at the Rex Club in Paris : http://www.kiddy.fr/detroit_beatdown.html I can't wait for that !! + followed next week by Octave One Live @ the Batofar : http://warmupper.free.fr/technorama/technorama_07.htm Yeepee ! ~ KiDDy. - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? I guess my understanding of beatdown is similar - slower (ie no faster than mid-120 bpm), deep as hell, soulful with detroit stylings. http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ has a good description, though I wonder if it's simply a micro-genre. I just mention it because I've found a good amount of slower deep stuff recently (eg philpot records' releases) and wondered if there was perhaps more of this stuff that I was unaware of (beyond early house etc which is often slower), and so I thought 313 would be the best folk to ask about it.
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We have the same 3 in London on the 25th feb. I'll be going coz Carl Craig is down stairs as well. Wicked line up -Original Message- From: KiDD*e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2006 15:39 To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? This is it ! And theses three ambassadors of BeatDown will perform this thursday 9th at the Rex Club in Paris : http://www.kiddy.fr/detroit_beatdown.html I can't wait for that !! + followed next week by Octave One Live @ the Batofar : http://warmupper.free.fr/technorama/technorama_07.htm Yeepee ! ~ KiDDy. - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? I guess my understanding of beatdown is similar - slower (ie no faster than mid-120 bpm), deep as hell, soulful with detroit stylings. http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ has a good description, though I wonder if it's simply a micro-genre. I just mention it because I've found a good amount of slower deep stuff recently (eg philpot records' releases) and wondered if there was perhaps more of this stuff that I was unaware of (beyond early house etc which is often slower), and so I thought 313 would be the best folk to ask about it.
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http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ What is it? Beatdown is a coined phrase that refers to the Urban House sound that came out of Detroit. It is a reflection of the effect of a strong, flawless DJ set where the energy reaches such an undeniable level you respond uncontrollably through dance, or, [for those less kinetic] intense body gestures and verbal comments. - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem wtf is a beatdown track?
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seek wrote: http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ What is it? Beatdown is a coined phrase that refers to the Urban House sound that came out of Detroit. It is a reflection of the effect of a strong, flawless DJ set where the energy reaches such an undeniable level you respond uncontrollably through dance, or, [for those less kinetic] intense body gestures and verbal comments. - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem wtf is a beatdown track? I think of Moodymann's Dem Young Sconies 12 (http://www.discogs.com/release/2517) as the first example I can think of. I remember getting an advance from Planet E at the time and thinking it was damn funky but damn slow for a single. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
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Aaaa! It's just house music [EMAIL PROTECTED] it! please please please please let's not make another f*cking subgenre! MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] ds.net To 02/06/06 05:20 AM 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Please respond to Subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? ds.net don't know the exact definition, but two tracks which jump to mind are Yoav B's Energize, as well, Theo Parrish's Dusty Cabinets - Original Message - From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? Some other Theo Parrish/KDJ influenced labels would have to include Freude-Am-Tamzen and Soul Phiction - both fairly similar to Philpot. You sometimes find stuff like this on (generally thought of as) clickier labels too. Also check The Mole and LoSoul. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:13 AM Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? I guess my understanding of beatdown is similar - slower (ie no faster than mid-120 bpm), deep as hell, soulful with detroit stylings. http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ has a good description, though I wonder if it's simply a micro-genre. I just mention it because I've found a good amount of slower deep stuff recently (eg philpot records' releases) and wondered if there was perhaps more of this stuff that I was unaware of (beyond early house etc which is often slower), and so I thought 313 would be the best folk to ask about it. Please excuse my ignorance and bandying around of a buzzword I read in an interview :-) Client Services CCSU-ISTAR Level 27, Governor Macquarie Tower, Sydney, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 61 2 9228 5501 Facsimile: 61 2 9228 4435 __ This email message, including any attached files, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The NSW Department of Commerce prohibits the right to publish, copy, distribute or disclose any information contained in this email, or its attachments, by any party other than the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the NSW Department of Commerce by email. The views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Department, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of NSW Department of Commerce. The NSW Department of Commerce accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email and recommends that the recipient check this email and any attached files for the presence of viruses. __ Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/06 6:59 PM not that i could define beatdown, although i have a certain dirty, 110bpm kinda housesound in mind, as featured on the mentioned 3rd ear-compilation... my question is another: is there a word for that (actually quite popular) style of house, discribed with too many one-finger chords? cc remix of theo's falling up or ame's rej and there are some more tracks for sure that i can't recall now. like, beatdown trance? ;) c* p.s.: simon, i don't know if it's beatdown what philpot are releasing, but if you mean that it has a similar vibe to some of theo parrish's or kdj's stuff: definitely yes! the german label running back and the stuff from dan electro (from france, i guess) go into that direction, too. Peteri, Jochem schrieb: wtf
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Eh? That sounds like just about any type of good djing regardless of the genre. It's pretty vague but then so is the sound these guys are playing one a sound is defined and corralled I think you're on the road to ruin I REALLY hope that it doesn't become a (sub)genre unto itself in the way that microhouse etc. did - imo it completely ruined what was a good thing MEK seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] t.net To 313@hyperreal.org 02/06/06 10:04 AM cc Subject Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ What is it? Beatdown is a coined phrase that refers to the Urban House sound that came out of Detroit. It is a reflection of the effect of a strong, flawless DJ set where the energy reaches such an undeniable level you respond uncontrollably through dance, or, [for those less kinetic] intense body gestures and verbal comments. - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem wtf is a beatdown track?
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I think what the guys are getting at is that Beatdown is a particular feeling rather than a sound. They're quite keen to avoid labels for types of music. You wrote: Eh? That sounds like just about any type of good djing regardless of the genre. It's pretty vague but then so is the sound these guys are playing one a sound is defined and corralled I think you're on the road to ruin I REALLY hope that it doesn't become a (sub)genre unto itself in the way that microhouse etc. did - imo it completely ruined what was a good thing MEK seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] t.net To 313@hyperreal.org 02/06/06 10:04 AM cc Subject Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ What is it? Beatdown is a coined phrase that refers to the Urban House sound that came out of Detroit. It is a reflection of the effect of a strong, flawless DJ set where the energy reaches such an undeniable level you respond uncontrollably through dance, or, [for those less kinetic] intense body gestures and verbal comments. - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem wtf is a beatdown track?
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On 2/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh? That sounds like just about any type of good djing regardless of the genre. i suppose it does, but i have to say that the people associated with the beatdown style are all amongst the best deejays ive ever seen: delano smith, mike clark, norm talley, mike huckaby, malik pittman, theo parrish, and rick wilhite (kenny is a good deejay, but not like those other guys...). honestly, there should be a word for what it is that they do that almost no other deejay ive ever see does. It's pretty vague but then so is the sound these guys are playing one a sound is defined and corralled I think you're on the road to ruin well theyre safe then, because i think of the whole thing as a style or approach in dealing with deejaying and production. ive watched those guys play everything from dancehall reggae to acid to techno to disco to italo to hiphop to jazz to funk to soul etc. what theyre doing on the surface may not seem different from what other deejays do, but theres something in the energy those guys have that is completely original and makes their sets stand out. i also have something to say about the comment someone else made earlier about beatdown not being floor friendly. those deejays and their tunes are far and away the MOST floor friendly that ive ever experienced. nearly every one of the best deejay performances ive seen have been by those guys i listed. and in my own sets, their tunes are always amongst the most well received. its funny, people hear something on a record thats slow or chilled sounding to them, but theyre not able to extrapolate how those kinds of records work in a deejay set. ive seen complete pandamonium erupt a countless number of times to those slow records. IMO there's more room for energy in the slower music. tom
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agreed 100%. If dance music only encompassed 120 bpm and higher, there would be thousands less great, classic tracks. Pre house, tthe majority of disco, funk, hip-hop, soul, rb, and rock songs were not nearly as uptempo as the newer stuff. -Gil -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? i also have something to say about the comment someone else made earlier about beatdown not being floor friendly. those deejays and their tunes are far and away the MOST floor friendly that ive ever experienced. nearly every one of the best deejay performances ive seen have been by those guys i listed. and in my own sets, their tunes are always amongst the most well received. its funny, people hear something on a record thats slow or chilled sounding to them, but theyre not able to extrapolate how those kinds of records work in a deejay set. ive seen complete pandamonium erupt a countless number of times to those slow records. IMO there's more room for energy in the slower music. tom
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They've got SOUL - plain and simple MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To il.com 313@hyperreal.org cc 02/06/06 01:42 PM Subject Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? On 2/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh? That sounds like just about any type of good djing regardless of the genre. i suppose it does, but i have to say that the people associated with the beatdown style are all amongst the best deejays ive ever seen: delano smith, mike clark, norm talley, mike huckaby, malik pittman, theo parrish, and rick wilhite (kenny is a good deejay, but not like those other guys...). honestly, there should be a word for what it is that they do that almost no other deejay ive ever see does. It's pretty vague but then so is the sound these guys are playing one a sound is defined and corralled I think you're on the road to ruin well theyre safe then, because i think of the whole thing as a style or approach in dealing with deejaying and production. ive watched those guys play everything from dancehall reggae to acid to techno to disco to italo to hiphop to jazz to funk to soul etc. what theyre doing on the surface may not seem different from what other deejays do, but theres something in the energy those guys have that is completely original and makes their sets stand out. i also have something to say about the comment someone else made earlier about beatdown not being floor friendly. those deejays and their tunes are far and away the MOST floor friendly that ive ever experienced. nearly every one of the best deejay performances ive seen have been by those guys i listed. and in my own sets, their tunes are always amongst the most well received. its funny, people hear something on a record thats slow or chilled sounding to them, but theyre not able to extrapolate how those kinds of records work in a deejay set. ive seen complete pandamonium erupt a countless number of times to those slow records. IMO there's more room for energy in the slower music. tom
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yeah, problem is not everyone understands that when you ask what tunes are classic beatdown tracks and then start attaching specific records to it you risk narrowing down what is a feeling the Paradise Garage, in addition to being a place, used to be a particular feeling and then it turned into a particular sound called Garage - a pretty narrow definition of the entirety of what was played at the Paradise Garage might I add. I'm sure the DJs at the Garage were keen to avoid labels too. They just played good music. See what I'm saying? MEK Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] o.uk To [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/06 01:30 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? I think what the guys are getting at is that Beatdown is a particular feeling rather than a sound. They're quite keen to avoid labels for types of music. You wrote: Eh? That sounds like just about any type of good djing regardless of the genre. It's pretty vague but then so is the sound these guys are playing one a sound is defined and corralled I think you're on the road to ruin I REALLY hope that it doesn't become a (sub)genre unto itself in the way that microhouse etc. did - imo it completely ruined what was a good thing MEK seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] t.net To 313@hyperreal.org 02/06/06 10:04 AM cc Subject Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks? http://www.beatdownsounds.net/ What is it? Beatdown is a coined phrase that refers to the Urban House sound that came out of Detroit. It is a reflection of the effect of a strong, flawless DJ set where the energy reaches such an undeniable level you respond uncontrollably through dance, or, [for those less kinetic] intense body gestures and verbal comments. - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem wtf is a beatdown track?
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beatdown a new dwarf-genre? well dunno but honestly beatdown sounds better than house if you asked me not that i care about words a all that just a thought house techno 's been raped so many times that techno turned into...deep techno while house became deep house to escape from the negative conotation - not sure if it's funny or not, but surely a weird process to observe. back to beatdown: let's call it slo,fat,soulful house before it joins schranz or progressive @ the menu of sad jokes. whatever the f**k one sees as soul ;)
