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please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
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You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
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Sorry for the non-french speakers, but they miss on a really nice bit of info about Canadians here : http://fr.news.yahoo.com/041103/202/44klm.html Just kidding ! Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:41 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
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HAHAHA,,I'm practically married so your women are safe. I've stopped buying records and I hate gum,,, but I would have to steal at least one job or maybe even two. You know how we american like to consume. I would have to pay for all the crap I have. Um,, all of this is 50% joking and um 50% serious. My firm does have an office in Vancouver, but it's the most desirable office right behind Seattle for all of our current employees, so there's a wait list as big as Canada,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
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Mr. Burd, You can leave this list and go listen to born again CW music while waving your flag. Your type isn't needed around here. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
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I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
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Just curious : here in France, and I think in a number of other european countries, there are some ads inviting people to move to Canada... Is it the same in the US ? Or is it just a move from the french-speaking states in Canada to bring more french people there and balance the anglophones ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:14 PM À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
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Well, the American nation was founded by people who were escaping persecution and discrimination in their home countries. It's not entirely out of keeping with the American mindset for people who aren't extreme right-wingers to be getting itchy feet themselves right about now. -Original Message- From: LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 17:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal..
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I've received e-mails like that before, but no adds. They came from travel agents mostly. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Just curious : here in France, and I think in a number of other european countries, there are some ads inviting people to move to Canada... Is it the same in the US ? Or is it just a move from the french-speaking states in Canada to bring more french people there and balance the anglophones ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:14 PM À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
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Didn't you hear? Ads like that have just been outlawed. No one gets out of here alive... MEK Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org nswill.com cc: Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, 11/03/2004 12:09 PM I've received e-mails like that before, but no adds. They came from travel agents mostly. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Just curious : here in France, and I think in a number of other european countries, there are some ads inviting people to move to Canada... Is it the same in the US ? Or is it just a move from the french-speaking states in Canada to bring more french people there and balance the anglophones ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:14 PM À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't you hear? Ads like that have just been outlawed. No one gets out of here alive... MEK Well, there's still one loophole: http://marryanamerican.ca/ -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
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Mr. Gianelli, Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll stay. It appears that you aren't accepting of my type. Can I not share a liking of electronic music with you while being a conservative Republican and speak up against those who criticize this country? I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Burd, You can leave this list and go listen to born again CW music while waving your flag. Your type isn't needed around here. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
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I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? Maybe he could do that while you chomp down on your freedom fries. oh...that was ANOTHER boycott...oops. (i know this is an immature post...sorry) /end political flame throwing on public music list __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
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good one, good one. it's okay...i can dish it out and take it too ;) (side note, i don't do the whole boycott thing anyhow :) -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:28 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? Maybe he could do that while you chomp down on your freedom fries. oh...that was ANOTHER boycott...oops. (i know this is an immature post...sorry) /end political flame throwing on public music list __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
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We'vew Gotten WAY off topic. But oh well. Someone will have some music news soon. :) But I've often wondered, why people get personally upset When another speaks negatively against America. Regardless of Political Party. I mean seriously. I love America, But there are things wrong with this country. Just like all other countries there's good and bad. Are we not to ever discuss the bad???Are we suppose to Just ignore, the over-consumption, complete disregard of natural resources, poor schools, Outrages healthcare system, etc. etc. It's not like we're making up things , we're just stating the facts in hopes of discussing a solution. But often times I find people here, both repulican and democratics that say,, oh if you hate it, then leave. ?? I'm an architect and the firm I'm working with is getting blasted for trying to push Green Buildings. My managers here in Charlotte try to justify our agenda by stating the fact that in general America is Building WAY TOO many Building and We need to correct the situation somehow as designers. You know what we hear? GO DESIGN Somewhere else!!! This is from well educated officials and CEO's of many healthcare facilities and Banks. Meanwhile Our Vancouver office ( where they don't even have a glutten of usless contruction has already completed 4 Green Builings.) I say the problem isn't the problem. Th problem is Denying the problem. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Gianelli, Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll stay. It appears that you aren't accepting of my type. Can I not share a liking of electronic music with you while being a conservative Republican and speak up against those who criticize this country? I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Burd, You can leave this list and go listen to born again CW music while waving your flag. Your type isn't needed around here. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of Perkins+society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
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i completely agree with matt's sentiments, but the subject says OT, and i am too angry to restrain myself to platitudes and self-censorship. you can not share a passion for the arts with being a bush supporter. there is virtually no gov't funding of the arts now, and it's going to get worse. it has already had a dramatic effect on arts and culture in the past 4 years. it's like being an animal lover and wearing fur, totally moronic. this has a drastic affect on the art world as a whole, from the academic world, to the viability of clubs, galleries, and performance spaces, to the economic wellbeing of arts-related industries. to be a bush supporter is to be obsessed with safety (an obvious euphemism for FEAR) and an agenda to make the christian way of life synonymous with the american way of life -- at the expense of civil rights, women's rights, religious freedom/seperation of church and state, fiscal responsibility, diplomacy, healthcare, education, responsible military strategy, etc! and har har, what a brainwash, the world hates our conservative leadership and it makes us a target, less safe (more fearful), so it's not about safety, it's about (christian) american self-righteousness, ego, and fear-induced puritanism going in a downward spiral. it's a tragedy! and it's dangerous. one of, if not THE most fundamental philosophies espoused by the constitution is seperation of church-state, it's the whole reason there is a USA to begin with, and yet we have evengelical christians guiding the country, making their beliefs law. thats so amazingly wrong, and in fact i think it is unconstituional (in ideology, if not by the letter of the law) to run for office on such a platform. popular support does not make it right; democracy is not democracy when it favors a viewpoint which inherently rejects other substantially represented viewpoints -- that's a democratic removal of freedom, which is as fundamental and dengerous a paradox as can be. it's fine to believe what you want but you can't impose your religious beliefs (aka morals ha) on the whole country. this election has been decided by scared little sheep clinging to tough talk, their empowering SUV's, and selfish, singleminded notions of God and morality that are retreating backwards towards puritanical blindness and intolerance. it's a failure of the american education system. unite the country my ass. good thing those republican-made Diebold voting machines in ohio and florida made for an accurate count (which Mr Diebold promised would go Bush's way months ago). the few times they've been independently tested before they've shown hours of un-recorded votes, unauthorized modem activity, and other signs of tampering. but EVEN if this election was won fair and square, which i rather doubt, i don't care -- the people and the leadership of this country disgust me, and i see incredibly dangerous trends taking hold. we're going backwards, and it's my country too, i'm entitled to be pissed off as much as anyone else is entitled to be rejoicing. and i am so f***ing pissed off. and i am thankful to see others who sympathize regardless of the forum. jt ps nice words ja'maul. -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 3, 2004 1:23 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Gianelli, Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll stay. It appears that you aren't accepting of my type. Can I not share a liking of electronic music with you while being a conservative Republican and speak up against those who criticize this country? I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Burd, You can leave this list and go listen to born again CW music while waving your flag. Your type isn't needed around here. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday
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it's true- canada has the best gum. On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Brendan Nelson wrote: Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
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america was founded by a bunch of uppity religious zealots. nothing's changed. On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Brendan Nelson wrote: Well, the American nation was founded by people who were escaping persecution and discrimination in their home countries. It's not entirely out of keeping with the American mindset for people who aren't extreme right-wingers to be getting itchy feet themselves right about now. -Original Message- From: LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 17:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal..
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With all the political passions being released on the list today I would like to say that Stephen Burd actually called me to discuss the issues, talk about Detroit a little and to say that like my beginning statements, his statement was partially a joke as well. We all have our own personal and political beliefs and a discussion board is exactly a place to post them. But what I often find is that some people say or do things that they wouldn't necessarily say in person. I've had many debates,,(never political,,lol, mostly musical) on other message boards but I've never had anyone to actually take the time to contact me personally to clarify anything that may have been said on the message board. Stephen did just that. And to me that is admirable. With that said, I'm still interested in Canada,,,:) mainly because I was interested before the election and even more so now. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society
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I feel some pretty dark, hard stuff coming out of the machines tonite once I patch in. fxckin pissed. I can't even listen to can you feel it - fingers right now. That's usually my inspiration if nothing else works. Feeling pretty pressurized. Feeling like making some techno. On that note. I also wonder if allowing the anger and judgemental attitudes to take hold now (after 4 years of trying to remain calm and balanced) might be counterintuitive to our (de/reprogrammers) cause. Are these feelings an acceptable response to the situation or is this the reaction the programmers wanted? Can techno really make a difference? If so, will the nitelife laws act as a limiter on any power that techno posseses? Was this a calculated preemptive strike to dull the power of techno? Discuss? **clarification** not really asking for advice as much as trying to spark intelligent convo on the subject AND keep it somewhat on topic. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, i completely agree with matt's sentiments, but the subject says OT, and i am too angry to restrain myself to platitudes and self-censorship. you can not share a passion for the arts with being a bush supporter. there is virtually no gov't funding of the arts now, and it's going to get worse. it has already had a dramatic effect on arts and culture in the past 4 years. it's like being an animal lover and wearing fur, totally moronic. this has a drastic affect on the art world as a whole, from the academic world, to the viability of clubs, galleries, and performance spaces, to the economic wellbeing of arts-related industries. to be a bush supporter is to be obsessed with safety (an obvious euphemism for FEAR) and an agenda to make the christian way of life synonymous with the american way of life -- at the expense of civil rights, women's rights, religious freedom/seperation of church and state, fiscal responsibility, diplomacy, healthcare, education, responsible military strategy, etc! and har har, what a brainwash, the world hates our conservative leadership and it makes us a target, less safe (more fearful), so it's not about safety, it's about (christian) american self-righteousness, ego, and fear-induced puritanism going in a downward spiral. it's a tragedy! and it's dangerous. one of, if not THE most fundamental philosophies espoused by the constitution is seperation of church-state, it's the whole reason there is a USA to begin with, and yet we have evengelical christians guiding the country, making their beliefs law. thats so amazingly wrong, and in fact i think it is unconstituional (in ideology, if not by the letter of the law) to run for office on such a platform. popular support does not make it right; democracy is not democracy when it favors a viewpoint which inherently rejects other substantially represented viewpoints -- that's a democratic removal of freedom, which is as fundamental and dengerous a paradox as can be. it's fine to believe what you want but you can't impose your religious beliefs (aka morals ha) on the whole country. this election has been decided by scared little sheep clinging to tough talk, their empowering SUV's, and selfish, singleminded notions of God and morality that are retreating backwards towards puritanical blindness and intolerance. it's a failure of the american education system. unite the country my ass. good thing those republican-made Diebold voting machines in ohio and florida made for an accurate count (which Mr Diebold promised would go Bush's way months ago). the few times they've been independently tested before they've shown hours of un-recorded votes, unauthorized modem activity, and other signs of tampering. but EVEN if this election was won fair and square, which i rather doubt, i don't care -- the people and the leadership of this country disgust me, and i see incredibly dangerous trends taking hold. we're going backwards, and it's my country too, i'm entitled to be pissed off as much as anyone else is entitled to be rejoicing. and i am so f***ing pissed off. and i am thankful to see others who sympathize regardless of the forum. jt ps nice words ja'maul. -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 3, 2004 1:23 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Gianelli, Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll stay. It appears that you aren't accepting of my type. Can I not share a liking of electronic
