RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
whatever you do, don't forget Parade - much underrated, despite sounding a little less sure of itself than his other albums and being the accompaniment to a piss-poor film, for me it's still prince's most adventurous work - and at the very least it's got Kiss and Sometimes It Snows In April on it. so has anyone ever laid their hands on the Black Album? -s _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile
Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
whatever you do, don't forget Parade - much underrated, despite sounding a little less sure of itself than his other albums and being the accompaniment to a piss-poor film, for me it's still prince's most adventurous work - and at the very least it's got Kiss and Sometimes It Snows In April on it. I agree. Parade's a pretty unique sounding album, maybe a bit poppier than some of his other stuff, but cool none the less. Albums aside though and the track that will always do it for me is 'Soft and Wet'. If I ever hear this dropped in a club I wont be responsible for the embarrasing funky moves I'm likley to start throwing! __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
Yeah it was widely available in the UK - I had a casette of I have since lost. It was very funky - Bob James and Rock Hard in A Funky Place in particular, but it also had a sappy ballad on it When 2 R In Love. Can't remember much else about it. BTW Parade was my favourite too, followed by Sign Of The Times and Around The World In A Day -Original Message- From: seth redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:18 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations whatever you do, don't forget Parade - much underrated, despite sounding a little less sure of itself than his other albums and being the accompaniment to a piss-poor film, for me it's still prince's most adventurous work - and at the very least it's got Kiss and Sometimes It Snows In April on it. so has anyone ever laid their hands on the Black Album? -s _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
so has anyone ever laid their hands on the Black Album? -s My sister has. She's the biggest Prince Fan I ever met: became naturalized as a US citizen and settled in Minneapolis, top that! But that's the level of nuttiness needed I think to get hold of that legendary album, which wasn't all that good anyway, she says. k _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile
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The Black Album is the easiest thing in the world to get. Impress me by saying that you have the album he did with Kim Basinger!!! ;) I gave mine away to someone who is a bigger fan than I... of P, not Kim. They reckoned it was a fake, I am not so sure! Or, have you ever heard the Carmen Electra album on Paisley Park. He, he, he! It was actually OK! I used to write for a Prince fanzine and the fans' pick was always Sign Of The Times - or SOTT - as we called it. He did a bangin' 'techno' song in Melb with Diamond Pearl on vox circa 92 that I have somewhere too. Also anything he did with Madhouse is a must-get. All of Sheila E's albums... Vanity 6 album. My personal fave P albums: SOTT Love Sexy 1999 Associate albums like Ingrid Chavez's neo-soul album on Paisley Park (she has since married Japan's David Sylvian, strange!) are always awesome too. I used to buy ANY album with a P song. I wish he would produce and write for some of the new artists today. His ballads were always the best! A lot of today's producers can't write decent ballads. This is because they create beats, come up with grooves, but a ballad needs a strong melody and you can't lift a sample for that. If you ask anyone their fave P album it's like star signs too. ;) You can tell a lot about someone from their fave Prince LP. FYI I once asked D May his and it is 1999, and Green Velvet's is Purple Rain. If you love the Parade album check out Common's latest, Electric Circus. It has the same psychedelic vibe! I LOVE it!!! Prince even guests. Yeah it was widely available in the UK - I had a casette of I have since lost. It was very funky - Bob James and Rock Hard in A Funky Place in particular, but it also had a sappy ballad on it When 2 R In Love. Can't remember much else about it. BTW Parade was my favourite too, followed by Sign Of The Times and Around The World In A Day -Original Message- From: seth redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:18 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations whatever you do, don't forget Parade - much underrated, despite sounding a little less sure of itself than his other albums and being the accompaniment to a piss-poor film, for me it's still prince's most adventurous work - and at the very least it's got Kiss and Sometimes It Snows In April on it. so has anyone ever laid their hands on the Black Album? -s _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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It was much easier to get the bootlegs in the late 80s or early 90s, esp in Europe. We used to trade tapes a lot, the fans, that's what I mainly did. It was ace, I had friends all over the world. Having pen pals in MPLS or Detroit or London was ultra cool, as these were P's cities. It was a status thing! ;) The whole subculture created amazing friendships, transcending race, nationality, gender... There was always a question how the studio material leaked out - during the Warner fall-out some speculated that P was intentionally leaking stuff. I am not sure. Later Prince became very sensitive about the bootlegging - understandably - and there was a lawsuit with the Swedish mag Uptown over their bootleg guides. I think that most fans would buy the official and the bootleg stuff, so there was no loss there, but I guess an artist wants to control what is out there, not have demos circulating. I totally appreciate that. The Australian 'zine was careful not to cover bootlegs. I think that's why Paisley Park gave us tacit support. We saw a copy of our 'zine, 7, in a Prince video and couldn't believe our eyes! I think Uptown is still extant so if you're serious fan, maybe look it up on the 'Web. -- From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 7:46 AM Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? how about bootlegs [yes, bootlegs again...] i was listening to the interview with THE man harco pront up on the musicforspeakers website [dutch only] where they were comparing his work to '80's prince bootlegs, the high pitched quasimoto-voice for instance. so what bootlegs should i look for? i know it's an impossible question as there's dozens of 'm, but i can at least try. jurren _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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While I remember, there was a maxi CD single of Gett Off with amazing mixes - one by Steve Silk Hurley. That is THE JAM. This thread is making me so sentimental, so I am gonna stop now! -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 8:08 PM It was much easier to get the bootlegs in the late 80s or early 90s, esp in Europe. We used to trade tapes a lot, the fans, that's what I mainly did. It was ace, I had friends all over the world. Having pen pals in MPLS or Detroit or London was ultra cool, as these were P's cities. It was a status thing! ;) The whole subculture created amazing friendships, transcending race, nationality, gender... There was always a question how the studio material leaked out - during the Warner fall-out some speculated that P was intentionally leaking stuff. I am not sure. Later Prince became very sensitive about the bootlegging - understandably - and there was a lawsuit with the Swedish mag Uptown over their bootleg guides. I think that most fans would buy the official and the bootleg stuff, so there was no loss there, but I guess an artist wants to control what is out there, not have demos circulating. I totally appreciate that. The Australian 'zine was careful not to cover bootlegs. I think that's why Paisley Park gave us tacit support. We saw a copy of our 'zine, 7, in a Prince video and couldn't believe our eyes! I think Uptown is still extant so if you're serious fan, maybe look it up on the 'Web. -- From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 7:46 AM Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? how about bootlegs [yes, bootlegs again...] i was listening to the interview with THE man harco pront up on the musicforspeakers website [dutch only] where they were comparing his work to '80's prince bootlegs, the high pitched quasimoto-voice for instance. so what bootlegs should i look for? i know it's an impossible question as there's dozens of 'm, but i can at least try. jurren _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
High-pitched comptuer voice. They were called his Camille songs. Some came out on regular releases, some were b-sides, others on bootlegs. They have always been my favorite because they tend to more electronic. The most popular and probably the best out of all them were Erotic City . And Then If I was your Girlfriend. Dream factory is an Awesome bootleg but the songs on it are different depending on where and who you get it from. I prefer the one with only the camille songs on it. Hit me up with your mailing addy and I can compile you a Camille C.D. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? how about bootlegs [yes, bootlegs again...] i was listening to the interview with THE man harco pront up on the musicforspeakers website [dutch only] where they were comparing his work to '80's prince bootlegs, the high pitched quasimoto-voice for instance. so what bootlegs should i look for? i know it's an impossible question as there's dozens of 'm, but i can at least try. jurren _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations (Black Album)
First of all sorry about the chain of post but I get the 313 list at work and obviously I miss everything thats posted on the weekends. Plus people are posting on the one mainstream artist that probably influences my electronic music the most, even though it may not sound like it. :) I'm enjoying this. As for the black Album, Well the bootleg was WIDELY available in america. Me and most of my friends had at least the cassette version back it 87' 88'. And My girlfriend at the time bought what appears to be a non-Bootlegg Vinyl copy of it for me in D.C. and she isn't even a fan. Needless to say I have that one sealed up and vaulted away. Now it's available for sale of course. But I do agree it's not a GOOD album at all. Lovesexy was way better and I'm glad he didn't release it. Side note: The one thing I've always envied to this day about you guys in Europe was the chance to experience the Sign O the Times Tour. One of the best. Did Any of you guys actually go that tour? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:52 AM To: seth redmond; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations so has anyone ever laid their hands on the Black Album? -s My sister has. She's the biggest Prince Fan I ever met: became naturalized as a US citizen and settled in Minneapolis, top that! But that's the level of nuttiness needed I think to get hold of that legendary album, which wasn't all that good anyway, she says. k _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile
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Brent Kirkwood wrote: After all this talk of Prince... Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? Interesting just how many Prince fans there are on the list. The connection between Prince and Detroit techno is squarely in the what they were listening to when they weren't listening to each other category, so I'm not sure how on-topic it is, but for what it's worth... Just about every Prince album and bootleg released up to the mid-1990s has its moments where he (plus backing band The Revolution or New Power Generation, when applicable) was at the top of his form. Usually there are a couple of songs that were great and were hits, and a couple that should have been, and some mediocre filler. There's also a fair amount of progression from album to album, so you can't really find a single disc that serves as an introduction to all of his styles or that is superior to all others. In the mid-1990s and beyond, his music became more ballad-oriented, less adventurous and hardly as fun as before... still of high quality, just not all that interesting, IMHO, and the recommendations given on here already seem to concur, by omission. As you might expect, the official greatest hits collections contain the safest of the tracks that charted, some of which sound out of place when separated from the original albums. IMHO they should be avoided unless you're looking for a gift for a nostalgic family member. But, there was a B-sides disc that is worth having. Your best bet, though, is to find some nutty fan to make a compilation for you, then research the albums the material came from.. or just take the plunge and start buying. Also, it wasn't mentioned, but the 12 singles he released in the 1980s often had extended versions (full re-recordings, not just remixes) and B-sides that were essential. The long version of Raspberry Beret, the 20 minute version of America, the long mix of U Got The Look, etc... The withdrawn Black Album is raw but has the comical Bob George and the frenetic live jazz-funk jam 2 Nigs United 4 West Compton, which I can't imagine not putting on a *real* best-of compilation. I guess like everyone else I'd recommend Sign O The Times, but it's not jam packed with hits. It's just a really solid album from a time when he was at the top of his game. I thought Around The World In A Day was more enjoyable. I don't really disagree with any of the recommendations made... they're all good albums. If you want stuff that's dancey you should stick to Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999, and Purple Rain.
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
Despite that the majority (but hey majority rules, majority sucks right :-) of this list doesn't like me let me do a good deed. For all Prince fans out of there, if you look for some boos, check at http://www.funkycity.fr.st/ Till last October all the boots were on the site, then Prince has started to sue some sites.so now the boos are posted on the site on demand and only during the week-end. You may also want to contact him he speaks English. The site is in French so this how it works: From the menu mes boots you will see the entire list of the bootlegs which are available from the guy who runs the site. From the download menu at the moment you can download the late night show part 1/2/3. If you are into what they call contemporary jazz, a la Carl Craig, if you had enjoyed Detroit experiment... If you are already excited by the project of Carl Craig's collaboration with Alice Coltrane I strongly recommend you to download the Xenophobia series, incredible new turning point from the Man, particularly on Vol.2, you will have a big surprise I was not attended his Paris concert (the guy got it...) last year but I managed to get a $100 place for his after show. 2h15 of show during the second part of his Paris after show, he went into techno... was frenzy rather long and very impressive, accompanied by Blackwell and brass instruments. The French guy got it, the sound is not excellent, but hey. Oh, and BTW I downloaded from the same site Prince birthday gig at Detroit Cobo Hall (07/06/86) Could someone confirms that the Jam rehearsal boot, has been from Detroit, 1984 ? I will appreciated. And please do not all fall on this French guy at the same time:-) Someone else dreams about a collaboration between Prince and KDJ ??? |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:35 PM |To: Brent Kirkwood |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations | | |Brent Kirkwood wrote: | After all this talk of Prince... | | Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? | |Interesting just how many Prince fans there are on the list. The connection |between Prince and Detroit techno is squarely in the what they |were listening |to when they weren't listening to each other category, so I'm not sure how |on-topic it is, but for what it's worth... |
Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? Prince´s top moments, that´s easy! Dirty Mind 1999 Purple Rain Around The World in a Day Sign 'o' The times But if you don´t have a lot of money left in your pocket, concentrate on Dirty Mind and Sign 'o' The Times, I would say. Cheers, Maarten
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
You've opened up a can of worms. Lol. Honestly I haven't been much of a fan of a Prince Complete Album. To me I think he's best defined by individual songs. But if I have to name some favorites. His old stuff Sign of the Times (Ecletic Funk) 1999 (Best pop Rock album) Purple rain (Best Rock Album) Around the world in a day ( Best Pop) Newer stuff The Symbol Album Emancipation Gold Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Brent Kirkwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:20 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Prince Album Recommendations After all this talk of Prince... Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? Thanks in advance, Brent
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er, Controversy anyone? Dirty Mind definitely Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Brent Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED], nswill.com 313@hyperreal.org cc: 06/27/03 03:50 PMSubject: RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations You've opened up a can of worms. Lol. Honestly I haven't been much of a fan of a Prince Complete Album. To me I think he's best defined by individual songs. But if I have to name some favorites. His old stuff Sign of the Times (Ecletic Funk) 1999 (Best pop Rock album) Purple rain (Best Rock Album) Around the world in a day ( Best Pop) Newer stuff The Symbol Album Emancipation Gold Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Brent Kirkwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:20 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Prince Album Recommendations After all this talk of Prince... Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? Thanks in advance, Brent
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
Sign of the Times always sticks out for me.. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 June 2003 21:51 To: Brent Kirkwood; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations You've opened up a can of worms. Lol. Honestly I haven't been much of a fan of a Prince Complete Album. To me I think he's best defined by individual songs. But if I have to name some favorites. His old stuff Sign of the Times (Ecletic Funk) 1999 (Best pop Rock album) Purple rain (Best Rock Album) Around the world in a day ( Best Pop) Newer stuff The Symbol Album Emancipation Gold Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Brent Kirkwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:20 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Prince Album Recommendations After all this talk of Prince... Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? Thanks in advance, Brent --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
Oh god where to start, pretty subjective: --Sign O' The Times 2xLP- probably all around best display of talent, he plays every instrument on every song 'cept for one live track done w/ The Revolution... amazing. I like this review too http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amguid=CASS70305141450sql=A31820r 8ac489 --Dirty Mind (1980!) - Synth work on here and all around funkiness is electrifying I like 1999 a lot too - Something in the Water (Does Not Compute) --Purple Rain - a masterpiece in it's own right --Around the World in a Day - more conceptual, still great songs, deeper and less pop polish in some ways, though still had some hit singles too. I've always had a soft spot for Pop Life There are some cool songs on Prince LP and For You, both completed in late 70's. but don't start there unless you get to be a real fan ;) peace, Matt MacQueen -Original Message- From: Brent Kirkwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 3:20 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Prince Album Recommendations After all this talk of Prince... Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? Thanks in advance, Brent
Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? how about bootlegs [yes, bootlegs again...] i was listening to the interview with THE man harco pront up on the musicforspeakers website [dutch only] where they were comparing his work to '80's prince bootlegs, the high pitched quasimoto-voice for instance. so what bootlegs should i look for? i know it's an impossible question as there's dozens of 'm, but i can at least try. jurren _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Crystal Ball is a crazy compilation (I think mine is 5xCDs?) that was boot only for awhile, then I think Prince just started selling it himself. (?) It's material around the time of Sign O' The Times and others. Some are brilliant outtakes that never made it onto albums!!! Some is filler though. There is also a recent Live thing one night alone that I have heard good things about, the tracklist is pretty incredible (lots of old stuff) but I haven't heard it yet http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amguid=CASS70305141450sql=A0l5zef wk3gf3 There are a zillion bootlegs though, many live ones collected/traded by fans on lists, etc. peace -Original Message- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? how about bootlegs [yes, bootlegs again...] i was listening to the interview with THE man harco pront up on the musicforspeakers website [dutch only] where they were comparing his work to '80's prince bootlegs, the high pitched quasimoto-voice for instance. so what bootlegs should i look for? i know it's an impossible question as there's dozens of 'm, but i can at least try. jurren _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
