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Others I would add to the list below. Heavy Industries Bevlar Dobox Clever Music Luumu Acrylik .. This music out there is pretty diverse and amazing, certinaly enough for me to enjoy and feel excited about. Check out Speakeasy on Psurkit.net ... Its a weekly podacast featuring some of the favorite tracks I find weekly. The show notes include links to the sites I am visiting. Its an amzing world out there, and any MP3 snobs should stop lording over their vinyl collections, and just take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. .simon z66 wrote: .. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
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BTW .. I am in a ballroom right now with 400 Rugby supporters form NZ and the UK .. playing a selection of net label music at 192 ' On a Bose vocal PA .. arrgh Neither the location or the PA are my choice, but the sounds are excellent ! .simon
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take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. x2 thanks for the tips guyssome label were uknown to me
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Its an amzing world out there, and any MP3 snobs should stop lording over their vinyl collections, and just take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. .simon The world is quite amazing isn't it? I was thinking that on the way in to work! I agree about taking interest, but taking interest in a concept and supporting a format (and all it's limitations) are different. I am intensely interested in the concept of fully digital music presentation, but like Francois k said on dhp that time, the concept doesn't really work consistently on the professional level until you start closing in on uncompressed quality (really uber-high bitrates and large files). So I probably won't bother with full steam digital until the format is expanded to include high quality files. But then again you're talking to the guy who buys 4 pairs of levi's 501's every spring and feels fashion conscious so Maybe I'm just habitual, or maybe I only accept the best, depends on your take on jeans and music. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Global Warming ?! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:07 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Others I would add to the list below. Heavy Industries Bevlar Dobox Clever Music Luumu Acrylik .. This music out there is pretty diverse and amazing, certinaly enough for me to enjoy and feel excited about. Check out Speakeasy on Psurkit.net ... Its a weekly podacast featuring some of the favorite tracks I find weekly. The show notes include links to the sites I am visiting. z66 wrote: .. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
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yeah, but one thing is professional usage, where i can understand the worries about quality of sound/large files etc and another one is just plain home listening. there is just a huge amount of really high quality music out there that seems to be ingored by a lot of electronic music headsi think thats what simon was talking about. - Original Message - From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Global Warming ?! [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:55 PM Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Its an amzing world out there, and any MP3 snobs should stop lording over their vinyl collections, and just take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. .simon The world is quite amazing isn't it? I was thinking that on the way in to work! I agree about taking interest, but taking interest in a concept and supporting a format (and all it's limitations) are different. I am intensely interested in the concept of fully digital music presentation, but like Francois k said on dhp that time, the concept doesn't really work consistently on the professional level until you start closing in on uncompressed quality (really uber-high bitrates and large files). So I probably won't bother with full steam digital until the format is expanded to include high quality files. But then again you're talking to the guy who buys 4 pairs of levi's 501's every spring and feels fashion conscious so Maybe I'm just habitual, or maybe I only accept the best, depends on your take on jeans and music. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Global Warming ?! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:07 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Others I would add to the list below. Heavy Industries Bevlar Dobox Clever Music Luumu Acrylik .. This music out there is pretty diverse and amazing, certinaly enough for me to enjoy and feel excited about. Check out Speakeasy on Psurkit.net ... Its a weekly podacast featuring some of the favorite tracks I find weekly. The show notes include links to the sites I am visiting. z66 wrote: .. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
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.. i think the point is beyond the format -- it's just whole new way of presenting musik and reaching the audience. MP3 and other digital musik formats are not really young anymore, it's just that now they've evolved in something really useful, bearing acceptable quality, modern distribution network and decent replay/mixing tools. i'm still buying CD and vinyl releases but i'm really glad for the new digital distribution trend anyhow, even if it's killing traditional means of music industry. the world is forever changing but everyone is free to keep their favorite relics and just keep on doin' it my 2 santims, ///Z Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Its an amzing world out there, and any MP3 snobs should stop lording over their vinyl collections, and just take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. .simon The world is quite amazing isn't it? I was thinking that on the way in to work! I agree about taking interest, but taking interest in a concept and supporting a format (and all it's limitations) are different. I am intensely interested in the concept of fully digital music presentation, but like Francois k said on dhp that time, the concept doesn't really work consistently on the professional level until you start closing in on uncompressed quality (really uber-high bitrates and large files). So I probably won't bother with full steam digital until the format is expanded to include high quality files. But then again you're talking to the guy who buys 4 pairs of levi's 501's every spring and feels fashion conscious so Maybe I'm just habitual, or maybe I only accept the best, depends on your take on jeans and music. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Global Warming ?! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:07 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Others I would add to the list below. Heavy Industries Bevlar Dobox Clever Music Luumu Acrylik .. This music out there is pretty diverse and amazing, certinaly enough for me to enjoy and feel excited about. Check out Speakeasy on Psurkit.net ... Its a weekly podacast featuring some of the favorite tracks I find weekly. The show notes include links to the sites I am visiting. z66 wrote: .. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
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Didn't mean to mislead. I'm down for the digi-distro for sure. The advances made to facilitate this as it grows in influence will probably facilitate the kinds of change I'm talking about (ie, bandwidth expansion to accommodate more downloads will make it more viable to disseminate larger files faster as well). So yeah, werd. I'm witchu on that. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: z66 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:40 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? .. i think the point is beyond the format -- it's just whole new way of presenting musik and reaching the audience. MP3 and other digital musik formats are not really young anymore, it's just that now they've evolved in something really useful, bearing acceptable quality, modern distribution network and decent replay/mixing tools. i'm still buying CD and vinyl releases but i'm really glad for the new digital distribution trend anyhow, even if it's killing traditional means of music industry. the world is forever changing but everyone is free to keep their favorite relics and just keep on doin' it my 2 santims, ///Z
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-Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:17 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Rush Hour ( http://rushhour.nl ) is in the early stages of providing mp3's from many of their distributed labels -- they'll be available direct thru rh, but they should also end up at iTunes etc. I think you can already buy mp3's of some of the Delsin albums (or individual songs from the albums), via the rh site..probably some other stuff too Cool. Please say they're going to do it at higher than 192kbps (OK, probably not). Yeah I know they all say 'it's virtually indistinguishable from CD quality in earphones' but deep down we all know it so isn't. k Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the things at rush hour are 256 kBps Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:17 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Rush Hour ( http://rushhour.nl ) is in the early stages of providing mp3's from many of their distributed labels -- they'll be available direct thru rh, but they should also end up at iTunes etc. I think you can already buy mp3's of some of the Delsin albums (or individual songs from the albums), via the rh site..probably some other stuff too Cool. Please say they're going to do it at higher than 192kbps (OK, probably not). Yeah I know they all say 'it's virtually indistinguishable from CD quality in earphones' but deep down we all know it so isn't. k Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!) Ken -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 10:41 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Don't Beatport do them at 320... Martin On 23 Jun 2005, at 10:36, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Well that's amazing! That's very rare, I think in the net labels market, I believe. I will definitely be a customer. I hope other net labels follow. I notice West End recently opted for 192kbps at their recent net launch. I mean, if you want the stuff you'll buy, whatever the quality (and a lot of us want those more obscure West End tracks) but you always get that niggling feeling that it could sound better. Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 08:44 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? the things at rush hour are 256 kBps Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:17 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Rush Hour ( http://rushhour.nl ) is in the early stages of providing mp3's from many of their distributed labels -- they'll be available direct thru rh, but they should also end up at iTunes etc. I think you can already buy mp3's of some of the Delsin albums (or individual songs from the albums), via the rh site..probably some other stuff too Cool. Please say they're going to do it at higher than 192kbps (OK, probably not). Yeah I know they all say 'it's virtually indistinguishable from CD quality in earphones' but deep down we all know it so isn't. k Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) i struggle with this one, i think i prefer to buy vinyl. partly cos i love it but partly cos of the whole package (i prefer cds to downloads too). hats off to marsel for the 256k mp3s tho (but like ken i'd prefer full fat) robin... Odeluga, Ken wrote: So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!)
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Aye, I've been thinking of doing FLAC versions for Dust Science stuff but I have to admit the digital market place gives me a headache, like Robin I like my objects - there something so final about a 12 Martin On 23 Jun 2005, at 10:46, Odeluga, Ken wrote: So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!) Ken -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 10:41 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Don't Beatport do them at 320... Martin On 23 Jun 2005, at 10:36, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Well that's amazing! That's very rare, I think in the net labels market, I believe. I will definitely be a customer. I hope other net labels follow. I notice West End recently opted for 192kbps at their recent net launch. I mean, if you want the stuff you'll buy, whatever the quality (and a lot of us want those more obscure West End tracks) but you always get that niggling feeling that it could sound better. Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 08:44 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? the things at rush hour are 256 kBps Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:17 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Rush Hour ( http://rushhour.nl ) is in the early stages of providing mp3's from many of their distributed labels -- they'll be available direct thru rh, but they should also end up at iTunes etc. I think you can already buy mp3's of some of the Delsin albums (or individual songs from the albums), via the rh site..probably some other stuff too Cool. Please say they're going to do it at higher than 192kbps (OK, probably not). Yeah I know they all say 'it's virtually indistinguishable from CD quality in earphones' but deep down we all know it so isn't. k Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Aye, I've been thinking of doing FLAC versions for Dust Science stuff but I have to admit the digital market place gives me a headache, like Robin I like my objects - there something so final about a 12 I like my 'objects' too. something to hold and to look at. i think ultimately this is what will keep the 'physical object' music marketplace going (?) however, gotta be worth looking into martin - theres lots of people out there who will want your stuff but dont buy records anymore - and theres no cds available of your stuff yet? I always think its money for old rope almost - doesn't cost anything to put up? everything is already done and mastered anyway - and even if you had 50/50, its 50p a track for you - all helps I guess? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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robin wrote: this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) I've been collecting MP3's off the free net labels for 10 months. I will never buy vinyl again, I might buy a CD. There are artists who I have collected from net labels who I would pay for, if their new releases were available only from pay sites. I would prefer higher bit rate, and would pay for higher bit rate versions of some of my favourite 'free' tracks. Personally I tend to burn my music to CD and play it using Pioneer CDJ's. I am looking at the next alternative being Final Scratch, Serato or Live 5 Digital is such a convenient method of having music for me. I much as I like vinyl it never was the gospel for me. I have no future interest in spending money on vinyl. I am not interested in packaging or objects of music. .simon -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aye, I've been thinking of doing FLAC versions for Dust Science stuff but I have to admit the digital market place gives me a headache, like Robin I like my objects - there something so final about a 12 I like my 'objects' too. something to hold and to look at. i think ultimately this is what will keep the 'physical object' music marketplace going (?) so thinking about it...it's not really the object i like (though that is nice, and let's face it it's something we've all been collecting for years) it's more the fact that i can't lose it on a harddrive or just forget where i put the file etc. I always think its money for old rope almost - doesn't cost anything to put up? everything is already done and mastered anyway - and even if you had 50/50, its 50p a track for you - all helps I guess? well for martin he probs has all the payment stuff set on his website, so the only other costs then is hosting/bandwidth. robin...
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Wait until HD goes down :) On 23 Jun 2005, at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 13:15 it's more the fact that i can't lose it on a harddrive or just forget where i put the file etc. yeeks! one reason digital appeals to me (not that I've actually put into practice using it yet) is this is exactly what happens to my analogs! Is there no hope?
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this is what i worry about. never happened to me but it will one day. i have one external HD at the mo and that mirrors my laptop but i have extra stuff on there that isn't backed up. that worries me a lot. francis: i can find most of my vinyl if i look hard enough, took ages to get it that organised :) robin... Martin Dust wrote: Wait until HD goes down :) On 23 Jun 2005, at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 13:15 it's more the fact that i can't lose it on a harddrive or just forget where i put the file etc. yeeks! one reason digital appeals to me (not that I've actually put into practice using it yet) is this is exactly what happens to my analogs! Is there no hope?
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Well that's the reason why I asked for a list of who offered digital downloads in the first place. Geeze, my turntables sit collecting dust. I hate the thought of thinking about my next move where I have to box up all my old vinyl. And really, if you take the time to catalog, and backup your music collection it should be fine. Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. Plus, there's really no worry about music going out of print with digital format. The problem of scarcity is gone. -- -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:59 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) i struggle with this one, i think i prefer to buy vinyl. partly cos i love it but partly cos of the whole package (i prefer cds to downloads too). hats off to marsel for the 256k mp3s tho (but like ken i'd prefer full fat) robin... Odeluga, Ken wrote: So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!)
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I'm surprised ACME isn't in the act Gil, perhaps you should suggest it. ACMETECHNODOWNLOAD.COM sounds like a winner to me. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Gil Yaker wrote: Well that's the reason why I asked for a list of who offered digital downloads in the first place. Geeze, my turntables sit collecting dust. I hate the thought of thinking about my next move where I have to box up all my old vinyl. And really, if you take the time to catalog, and backup your music collection it should be fine. Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. Plus, there's really no worry about music going out of print with digital format. The problem of scarcity is gone. i'm sure this scarcity can be artificially introduced. i guess the pressure from bootleggers is then replaced by pressure from p2p --- the more i think about it, if the bitrate is high enough (or it's a wav) and the price is right (it'll have to be less than vinylno media) then eventually i might give in to the idea. robin...
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At 09:11 AM 6/23/2005, robin wrote: the more i think about it, if the bitrate is high enough (or it's a wav) and the price is right (it'll have to be less than vinylno media) then eventually i might give in to the idea. it would be nice if everyone gave you your choice of download format. you could pick from mp3, aac, WAV, FLAC, AIFF, and um, Sound Designer II. it would also be nice the stores kept records of who has a license for which track so you could redownload lost files (for a nominal fee if necessary). -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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Gil Yaker wrote: Geeze, my turntables sit collecting dust. mine do toothey need an overhaul which i haven't been arsed to get around to doing. the only turntable that gets any use in my house is the hifi one i use to record all my vinyl. robin...
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised ACME isn't in the act Gil, perhaps you should suggest it. ACMETECHNODOWNLOAD.COM sounds like a winner to me. : ) What about ACMEOFFSITEBACKUPSERVICE.COM Alex to ease peoples fears about loosing their digital files - your missing a market there I think Cheers BT
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matt kane's brain wrote: At 09:11 AM 6/23/2005, robin wrote: the more i think about it, if the bitrate is high enough (or it's a wav) and the price is right (it'll have to be less than vinylno media) then eventually i might give in to the idea. it would be nice if everyone gave you your choice of download format. you could pick from mp3, aac, WAV, FLAC, AIFF, and um, Sound Designer II. it would also be nice the stores kept records of who has a license for which track so you could redownload lost files (for a nominal fee if necessary). yes! i've been banging on about that for a couple of years. not sure how workable a situation that would be tho. robin...
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At 09:16 AM 6/23/2005, robin wrote: yes! i've been banging on about that for a couple of years. not sure how workable a situation that would be tho. robin... multi-format downloads have been handled by magnatune for a while now. re-downloads i'm not so sure on, but if you have some sort of account history function you could tie into that. i just hope there isn't a patent on it. (so i can patent the idea, ha ha ha) -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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multi-format downloads have been handled by magnatune for a while now. re-downloads i'm not so sure on, but if you have some sort of account history function you could tie into that. i just hope there isn't a patent on it. (so i can patent the idea, ha ha ha) it's a license you're talking about here i think. you're buying the license to have the file/music just like software. robin...
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One half-way house solution (really its fudge!) might be to buy one of those new pro-CD decks which can play mp3s. I almost bought one recently, although in the event I opted for an ordinary deck on price, thinking that, if it came down to it, I could of course just burn CD-Rs of mp3s, (biting my tongue on the sound quality issue.) This way, I can always maintain the full-spectrum quality and ethos and malleability of analogue DJing (or so-called DJing, in my case, ha!) and play out anything I might only possess in mp3 format, on CD. However, I realized years ago that the benefits of digital are overwhelming and it's just a matter of time before I decide to go for it properly (I'll always need some proper hands-on format though so I would probably still look at final scratch or serato (?), possibly Ableton.) But I would wherever possible, still buy vinyl and/or cds. Even if I played out digital files, I'd still like to know that I had access to the full-fat version. Plus it gives you the flexibility to decide the quality at which you play them out - that might depend on how long a set you have, laptop capacity etc ... hmmm. K -Original Message- From: Gil Yaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 14:05 To: 313@hyperreal.org; 'robin' Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Well that's the reason why I asked for a list of who offered digital downloads in the first place. Geeze, my turntables sit collecting dust. I hate the thought of thinking about my next move where I have to box up all my old vinyl. And really, if you take the time to catalog, and backup your music collection it should be fine. Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. Plus, there's really no worry about music going out of print with digital format. The problem of scarcity is gone. -- -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:59 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) i struggle with this one, i think i prefer to buy vinyl. partly cos i love it but partly cos of the whole package (i prefer cds to downloads too). hats off to marsel for the 256k mp3s tho (but like ken i'd prefer full fat) robin... Odeluga, Ken wrote: So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!)
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i have been checking the netlable scene for around over a year as well, mainly because i have several friends that release on them. which are your favourite labels and artists? i have been downloading from the obvious ones (thinner, textone etc) but there are so many these days you can get totally lost. i see it a see it as a completely parallel universe. but i do think that some labels release more or less the same sounding stuff, that diversity is still not a characteristic to netmusic. hopefully this will change as the scene matures. on a side note, dubplatesmastering in berlin now offer mp3 mastering, due to increasing demand, and so does twerk's mastering service. btw...313s own dennis desantis (hi dennis ;) has released some great stuff on thinner. fab. - Original Message - From: Global Warming ?! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:06 PM Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? robin wrote: this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) I've been collecting MP3's off the free net labels for 10 months. I will never buy vinyl again, I might buy a CD. There are artists who I have collected from net labels who I would pay for, if their new releases were available only from pay sites. I would prefer higher bit rate, and would pay for higher bit rate versions of some of my favourite 'free' tracks. Personally I tend to burn my music to CD and play it using Pioneer CDJ's. I am looking at the next alternative being Final Scratch, Serato or Live 5 Digital is such a convenient method of having music for me. I much as I like vinyl it never was the gospel for me. I have no future interest in spending money on vinyl. I am not interested in packaging or objects of music. .simon -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
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Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. That's why i have embraked on the gargantuan task of ripping all my vinyl to mp3 - digital files ARE easier to use, although for me there is nothing like vinyl. the sound, the feel, the smelland the packaging. fab.
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.. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z
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At 10:59 AM 6/23/2005, fab. wrote: i have been downloading from the obvious ones (thinner, textone etc) but there are so many these days you can get totally lost. i see it a see it as a completely parallel universe. but i do think that some labels release more or less the same sounding stuff, that diversity is still not a characteristic to netmusic. hopefully this will change as the scene matures. i actually got pretty sick of thinner for a while. i downloaded their entire catalog, which ended up being about 10% of my entire iTunes library. Not good for shuffling. -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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Bah, guess, i will add my two cents, I look at owning the vinyl as owning the next best thing to a studio master. Problem is vinyl wears out each time it is played. Digital files never wear-out, and if you dj digitally, you don't have to get an acetate made every time a remix/edit is done. Alot easier to play your exclusive tracks on a limited budget, as most of us are on. -so I have been working on digitizing my vinyl collection, but its time consuming. Most of the vinyl I am after is out-of print, some new music I would rather buy a legit mp3 if the music is recorded digitally in the first place. But for the older records which were mastered from reel-to-reel, vinyl is the only answer because one must do there own analog to digital master, and this is where modern djs have a chance to stand out from the rest, the techno-world needs more Larry Levins and Ron Hardys doing there own remixes etc. On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:02 AM, fab. wrote: Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. That's why i have embraked on the gargantuan task of ripping all my vinyl to mp3 - digital files ARE easier to use, although for me there is nothing like vinyl. the sound, the feel, the smelland the packaging. fab.
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Does anyone know if Submerge might be planning on doing this with their back catalog? It seems like a no-brainer to me, and contract issues aside, it's pretty easy to set up shop. -bp the other prince of techno
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Yeah they are, you can see the hints on: http:// www.submergerecordings.com/ But then again it is Submerge, we still have to wait and see ;) KJ On 23-jun-2005, at 22:40, Brian Prince wrote: Does anyone know if Submerge might be planning on doing this with their back catalog? It seems like a no-brainer to me, and contract issues aside, it's pretty easy to set up shop. -bp the other prince of techno
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:59:32 +0200, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have been checking the netlable scene for around over a year as well, mainly because i have several friends that release on them. which are your favourite labels and artists? My favorite 'Net label is alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.electronic ;-D - Greg (the old 'net pirate, arrr a)
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3 dvd-r - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Wait until HD goes down :) On 23 Jun 2005, at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 13:15 it's more the fact that i can't lose it on a harddrive or just forget where i put the file etc. yeeks! one reason digital appeals to me (not that I've actually put into practice using it yet) is this is exactly what happens to my analogs! Is there no hope? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005
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kompakt have an mp3 shop http://kompakt-mp3.net/ i've used tresor as well for mp3s http://www.tresorberlin.de/ On 6/22/05, Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey - I was wondering if you guys could help me compile a list of online stores that sell techno/house/whatever mp3s so the artists actually get paid. All I can think of now is www.bleep.com . A few weeks back, someone pointed to one of the housier labels that lets you purchase just about all of the back catalog online in mp3 format, but I've forgotten the website. thanks -Gil
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iTunes Music Stores sounds pretty reliable to me, not that i bought much of it anyway... On 22-jun-2005, at 17:12, Gil Yaker wrote: Hey - I was wondering if you guys could help me compile a list of online stores that sell techno/house/whatever mp3s so the artists actually get paid. All I can think of now is www.bleep.com . A few weeks back, someone pointed to one of the housier labels that lets you purchase just about all of the back catalog online in mp3 format, but I've forgotten the website. thanks -Gil
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Rush Hour ( http://rushhour.nl ) is in the early stages of providing mp3's from many of their distributed labels -- they'll be available direct thru rh, but they should also end up at iTunes etc. I think you can already buy mp3's of some of the Delsin albums (or individual songs from the albums), via the rh site..probably some other stuff too -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 22, 2005 11:26 AM To: Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? iTunes Music Stores sounds pretty reliable to me, not that i bought much of it anyway... On 22-jun-2005, at 17:12, Gil Yaker wrote: Hey - I was wondering if you guys could help me compile a list of online stores that sell techno/house/whatever mp3s so the artists actually get paid. All I can think of now is www.bleep.com . A few weeks back, someone pointed to one of the housier labels that lets you purchase just about all of the back catalog online in mp3 format, but I've forgotten the website. thanks -Gil
