RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven
At 4:10 PM + 4/18/02, Jayson B. wrote: does Dave have a problem with EVERYBODY? Seriously, i know he has a rep for being straightforward and blunt, but he seems like he has a bit of a whiney streak too. dave and richie made up this year at Timewarp after their little record throwing tiff last year... in case anyone cares ;) -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump carl cox off the decks. Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself. If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters is that they turn up on time then proceed rock the venue with excellent records and top-notch mixing. Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes plays brutal, hard, dark techno. If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules - and don't forget your glowstick! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I believe you guys are missing an important aspect here. We are talking about PARTIES here. Parties are supposed to be fun and the DJ should just as much be a part of the party as the crowd is. DC clearly is not. He acts as if it's only a job he has to do and although it IS for him, it should be more than just showing up in time and dropping his records. Sven's attitude is not about look at how cheery I am. It's about partying together with the crowd and showing respect to the crowd by not only dropping the best tunes in the best possible build up (and making them go totally mad in the process), playing for as long as the clubowner lets him and by being on the floor before his sets, checking the atmosphere out and talking to people, even remembering when he has spoken to them before and about what! We are still an underground scene, where the stars don't need to develop arrogant attitudes and need bodyguards and all that nonsense. I had the pleasure of visiting the Rex in Paris once where Sven was playing. When I entered the club, he was standing at the bar and he approached ME asking surprised what I was doing here since I was from Holland where I'd spoken with him at a party months before. He knew that!! He immediately introduced me to Terence Fixmer who was there too. Later he played a great set in that strange DJ booth with the windows open. It was so funny to see the three lines thick of trainspotters standing there the whole time. A couple of weeks later I saw a documentary on Dutch TV about Dave Clarke. There he was also playing at the Rex. There you saw him sitting backstage the whole time before his set, by himself, looking as if he was waiting for a dentist appointment. When he came on he had no idea what the DJ before him had been doing, then the windows went shut Now there's a guy who must really love his job. A job that 1000's of others would kill for. On the subject of the Rex, if there's one DJ who constantly switches places with Sven on my most favourite list, it's Laurent Garnier... Joost -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 19 april 2002 10:11 To: Nicole Slavin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump carl cox off the decks. Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself. If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters is that they turn up on time then proceed rock the venue with excellent records and top-notch mixing. Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes plays brutal, hard, dark techno. If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules - and don't forget your glowstick! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Agreed! Lets party on! -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2002 10:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nicole Slavin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven Hi, I believe you guys are missing an important aspect here. We are talking about PARTIES here. Parties are supposed to be fun and the DJ should just as much be a part of the party as the crowd is. DC clearly is not. He acts as if it's only a job he has to do and although it IS for him, it should be more than just showing up in time and dropping his records. Sven's attitude is not about look at how cheery I am. It's about partying together with the crowd and showing respect to the crowd by not only dropping the best tunes in the best possible build up (and making them go totally mad in the process), playing for as long as the clubowner lets him and by being on the floor before his sets, checking the atmosphere out and talking to people, even remembering when he has spoken to them before and about what! We are still an underground scene, where the stars don't need to develop arrogant attitudes and need bodyguards and all that nonsense. I had the pleasure of visiting the Rex in Paris once where Sven was playing. When I entered the club, he was standing at the bar and he approached ME asking surprised what I was doing here since I was from Holland where I'd spoken with him at a party months before. He knew that!! He immediately introduced me to Terence Fixmer who was there too. Later he played a great set in that strange DJ booth with the windows open. It was so funny to see the three lines thick of trainspotters standing there the whole time. A couple of weeks later I saw a documentary on Dutch TV about Dave Clarke. There he was also playing at the Rex. There you saw him sitting backstage the whole time before his set, by himself, looking as if he was waiting for a dentist appointment. When he came on he had no idea what the DJ before him had been doing, then the windows went shut Now there's a guy who must really love his job. A job that 1000's of others would kill for. On the subject of the Rex, if there's one DJ who constantly switches places with Sven on my most favourite list, it's Laurent Garnier... Joost -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 19 april 2002 10:11 To: Nicole Slavin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump carl cox off the decks. Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself. If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters is that they turn up on time then proceed rock the venue with excellent records and top-notch mixing. Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes plays brutal, hard, dark techno. If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules - and don't forget your glowstick! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Agree..i remember a fwe years back when Sven was playing Mazzo in Asmterdam on sundaynight. the place was pretty packed and he played form 00.00 till 07.00 in the morning. When i enterd Mazzo and went to bar for a beer a found myself standing next a rather little person (and i am not so tall myself:) with a funny haircut, turned out it was mr. Väth himself. He just stood at the bar orderd a beer and we had a chat about the night. We talked about how he liked playing clubs like mazzo, coming early to a club to catch some of the atmosphere before playing and he bought me beer. Then he went of to spin few tunes..bought him a beer back later on.. Had a very good night..and Sven couldn´t do wrong with me anymore:) Martijn -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 19 april 2002 11:09 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nicole Slavin; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven Hi, I believe you guys are missing an important aspect here. We are talking about PARTIES here. Parties are supposed to be fun and the DJ should just as much be a part of the party as the crowd is. DC clearly is not. He acts as if it's only a job he has to do and although it IS for him, it should be more than just showing up in time and dropping his records. Sven's attitude is not about look at how cheery I am. It's about partying together with the crowd and showing respect to the crowd by not only dropping the best tunes in the best possible build up (and making them go totally mad in the process), playing for as long as the clubowner lets him and by being on the floor before his sets, checking the atmosphere out and talking to people, even remembering when he has spoken to them before and about what! We are still an underground scene, where the stars don't need to develop arrogant attitudes and need bodyguards and all that nonsense. I had the pleasure of visiting the Rex in Paris once where Sven was playing. When I entered the club, he was standing at the bar and he approached ME asking surprised what I was doing here since I was from Holland where I'd spoken with him at a party months before. He knew that!! He immediately introduced me to Terence Fixmer who was there too. Later he played a great set in that strange DJ booth with the windows open. It was so funny to see the three lines thick of trainspotters standing there the whole time. A couple of weeks later I saw a documentary on Dutch TV about Dave Clarke. There he was also playing at the Rex. There you saw him sitting backstage the whole time before his set, by himself, looking as if he was waiting for a dentist appointment. When he came on he had no idea what the DJ before him had been doing, then the windows went shut Now there's a guy who must really love his job. A job that 1000's of others would kill for. On the subject of the Rex, if there's one DJ who constantly switches places with Sven on my most favourite list, it's Laurent Garnier... Joost -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 19 april 2002 10:11 To: Nicole Slavin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump carl cox off the decks. Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself. If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters is that they turn up on time then proceed rock the venue with excellent records and top-notch mixing. Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes plays brutal, hard, dark techno. If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules - and don't forget your glowstick! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I understand your point, and I'll admit that it is nice to see a DJ enjoying the party vibe. My point is that it isn't a good reason not to go and hear a DJ. It's not the most important thing. Other than the bad attitude D.C is an excellent DJ. This has got me thinking about other DJs that don't show much emotion whilst playing. Surely there are a few Detroit DJs that have been brought up on the mean streets and aren't all smiley and jumpin around when on the decks? I don't remember Rolando being particularly jolly! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would go see D-Wynn...I saw him tag team with Kevin Saunderson @ Motor and it was a smiling dancing joker of a good time... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:11 AM To: Nicole Slavin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Anyone ever hear the D-Wynn falling down in the DJ booth story? - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: FC3 Richards Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:41 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven I would go see D-Wynn...I saw him tag team with Kevin Saunderson @ Motor and it was a smiling dancing joker of a good time... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:11 AM To: Nicole Slavin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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and that duck kind of dance that he does is the best! -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:42 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven I would go see D-Wynn...I saw him tag team with Kevin Saunderson @ Motor and it was a smiling dancing joker of a good time... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:11 AM To: Nicole Slavin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
Ralf Nader??? -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:41 AM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven HE actually doesn't make his own tracks, i have never heard a track he made alone. His early was always with Ralf something (Forgot his last name). His latest work is done together with really talented producers such as Acid Jezus and Anthony Rother. I read an interview with him in a dutch magazine 2 years ago where he said that producers who start to DJ are lame and just a sell-out. He didn't say anything about a DJ who needs other producers to make records as the DJ. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 18 april 2002 11:31 Aan: Ian Cheshire; innercity records CC: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Yes, a great dj and also a ambassador for European techno! But his own releases aren't half as good as the tracks he spins. Although i did like 'Dein Schweiss' and his new album 'fire' isn't bad either but harlequin stuff is quite boring... His two mix albums on the other hand 'cocoon club at Ibizia' are very, very good!..bless him for bringing true techno nights the to island of cheesy trance and boring progressive.. Jeff Mills spinning at Amnesia, who could have thought of that..ever! - Original Message - From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Toby Frith' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven yeah a few dodgy releases , that does actually stick out.. he has also a few remixes that were ground breaking so I forgive him :0) plus he is the only guy ?I have seen who atually makes Richie Hawtin smile while he is mixing !Plus he is the only guy I have seen who actually gets to talk to Richie while he is mixing, becasue we all know that Richie is pretty focused on what he does...bless him :) -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 09:22 To: Martijn de Blaauw; innercity records; Grammenos, Peter Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Great ambassador for Euro techno as Ian and Paul said as a DJ, although some of his conceptual LP releases were a bit dogdy...Harlequin and the Robot Dancer anyone? - - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Couldn't agree with you more... Martijn - Original Message - From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn
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you don't have to be happy-smiley-nice nor do you have to be dour-grumpy-ass what you do have to be is courtious and kind to everybody. and dave clarke appears to be neither. i must be his momma's fault. On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump carl cox off the decks. Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself. If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters is that they turn up on time then proceed rock the venue with excellent records and top-notch mixing. Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes plays brutal, hard, dark techno. If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules - and don't forget your glowstick! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Couldn't agree with you more... Martijn - Original Message - From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sven I have seen a few times and always impresses me. He takes three decks sometimes and plays melodies and breaks on the third deck rather than loops or beats. The guy has a great way of building sets and is truly a pioneer in European Techno... He is/was the man to se3 at the Love Parade although I hear he hasd pulled out this year?? -Original Message- From: innercity records [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 09:18 To: Martijn de Blaauw; Grammenos, Peter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Great ambassador for Euro techno as Ian and Paul said as a DJ, although some of his conceptual LP releases were a bit dogdy...Harlequin and the Robot Dancer anyone? - - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Couldn't agree with you more... Martijn - Original Message - From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
yeah a few dodgy releases , that does actually stick out.. he has also a few remixes that were ground breaking so I forgive him :0) plus he is the only guy ?I have seen who atually makes Richie Hawtin smile while he is mixing !Plus he is the only guy I have seen who actually gets to talk to Richie while he is mixing, becasue we all know that Richie is pretty focused on what he does...bless him :) -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 09:22 To: Martijn de Blaauw; innercity records; Grammenos, Peter Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Great ambassador for Euro techno as Ian and Paul said as a DJ, although some of his conceptual LP releases were a bit dogdy...Harlequin and the Robot Dancer anyone? - - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Couldn't agree with you more... Martijn - Original Message - From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
Yes, a great dj and also a ambassador for European techno! But his own releases aren't half as good as the tracks he spins. Although i did like 'Dein Schweiss' and his new album 'fire' isn't bad either but harlequin stuff is quite boring... His two mix albums on the other hand 'cocoon club at Ibizia' are very, very good!..bless him for bringing true techno nights the to island of cheesy trance and boring progressive.. Jeff Mills spinning at Amnesia, who could have thought of that..ever! - Original Message - From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Toby Frith' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven yeah a few dodgy releases , that does actually stick out.. he has also a few remixes that were ground breaking so I forgive him :0) plus he is the only guy ?I have seen who atually makes Richie Hawtin smile while he is mixing !Plus he is the only guy I have seen who actually gets to talk to Richie while he is mixing, becasue we all know that Richie is pretty focused on what he does...bless him :) -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 09:22 To: Martijn de Blaauw; innercity records; Grammenos, Peter Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Great ambassador for Euro techno as Ian and Paul said as a DJ, although some of his conceptual LP releases were a bit dogdy...Harlequin and the Robot Dancer anyone? - - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Couldn't agree with you more... Martijn - Original Message - From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
HE actually doesn't make his own tracks, i have never heard a track he made alone. His early was always with Ralf something (Forgot his last name). His latest work is done together with really talented producers such as Acid Jezus and Anthony Rother. I read an interview with him in a dutch magazine 2 years ago where he said that producers who start to DJ are lame and just a sell-out. He didn't say anything about a DJ who needs other producers to make records as the DJ. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 18 april 2002 11:31 Aan: Ian Cheshire; innercity records CC: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Yes, a great dj and also a ambassador for European techno! But his own releases aren't half as good as the tracks he spins. Although i did like 'Dein Schweiss' and his new album 'fire' isn't bad either but harlequin stuff is quite boring... His two mix albums on the other hand 'cocoon club at Ibizia' are very, very good!..bless him for bringing true techno nights the to island of cheesy trance and boring progressive.. Jeff Mills spinning at Amnesia, who could have thought of that..ever! - Original Message - From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Toby Frith' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven yeah a few dodgy releases , that does actually stick out.. he has also a few remixes that were ground breaking so I forgive him :0) plus he is the only guy ?I have seen who atually makes Richie Hawtin smile while he is mixing !Plus he is the only guy I have seen who actually gets to talk to Richie while he is mixing, becasue we all know that Richie is pretty focused on what he does...bless him :) -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 09:22 To: Martijn de Blaauw; innercity records; Grammenos, Peter Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Great ambassador for Euro techno as Ian and Paul said as a DJ, although some of his conceptual LP releases were a bit dogdy...Harlequin and the Robot Dancer anyone? - - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Couldn't agree with you more... Martijn - Original Message - From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
I read an interview with him in a dutch magazine 2 years ago where he said that producers who start to DJ are lame and just a sell-out. He didn't say anything about a DJ who needs other producers to make records as the DJ Let the flaming begin - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven HE actually doesn't make his own tracks, i have never heard a track he made alone. His early was always with Ralf something (Forgot his last name). His latest work is done together with really talented producers such as Acid Jezus and Anthony Rother. I read an interview with him in a dutch magazine 2 years ago where he said that producers who start to DJ are lame and just a sell-out. He didn't say anything about a DJ who needs other producers to make records as the DJ. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 18 april 2002 11:31 Aan: Ian Cheshire; innercity records CC: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Yes, a great dj and also a ambassador for European techno! But his own releases aren't half as good as the tracks he spins. Although i did like 'Dein Schweiss' and his new album 'fire' isn't bad either but harlequin stuff is quite boring... His two mix albums on the other hand 'cocoon club at Ibizia' are very, very good!..bless him for bringing true techno nights the to island of cheesy trance and boring progressive.. Jeff Mills spinning at Amnesia, who could have thought of that..ever! - Original Message - From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Toby Frith' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven yeah a few dodgy releases , that does actually stick out.. he has also a few remixes that were ground breaking so I forgive him :0) plus he is the only guy ?I have seen who atually makes Richie Hawtin smile while he is mixing !Plus he is the only guy I have seen who actually gets to talk to Richie while he is mixing, becasue we all know that Richie is pretty focused on what he does...bless him :) -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 09:22 To: Martijn de Blaauw; innercity records; Grammenos, Peter Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Great ambassador for Euro techno as Ian and Paul said as a DJ, although some of his conceptual LP releases were a bit dogdy...Harlequin and the Robot Dancer anyone? - - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Couldn't agree with you more... Martijn - Original Message - From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start
[313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven
Last year at the dutch Dance Valley festival he fell from this golf car and broke his arm. He had to play the final slot at the Techno Tent, which was hosted by Cocoon. Richie Hawtin was playing before him, and was still around when Vath started. Hawtin would put one of Vath's records on the deck, put the needle on it, and he then would help Vath putting the headphone on his head. Vath also had someone to flip through his records for him. Very funny to see, but he still managed to rock the place! W -Original Message- From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:17 AM To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Grammenos; Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven
ahh you see he is the man! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 12:42 To: innercity records; Martijn de Blaauw; Grammenos; Peter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven Last year at the dutch Dance Valley festival he fell from this golf car and broke his arm. He had to play the final slot at the Techno Tent, which was hosted by Cocoon. Richie Hawtin was playing before him, and was still around when Vath started. Hawtin would put one of Vath's records on the deck, put the needle on it, and he then would help Vath putting the headphone on his head. Vath also had someone to flip through his records for him. Very funny to see, but he still managed to rock the place! W -Original Message- From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:17 AM To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Grammenos; Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
- Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:41 AM Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven HE actually doesn't make his own tracks, i have never heard a track he made alone. His early was always with Ralf something (Forgot his last name). His latest work is done together with really talented producers such as Acid Jezus and Anthony Rother. He did a bunch of work, including Harlequin with Ralf Hildenbeutel, who was one of the better Harthouse producers. I always preferred Hildenbeutel's individual productions to those with Mr. Vath. All of it was on the trancey end of things before that was a bad word. Some of it was extremely dense and involved. I think one of the best efforts was a Harthouse compilation called Mission Into Drums that wasn't 1/2 as hard as the title would indicate. Hildenbeutel was at the top of my list of early-mid '90s trance producers along with Oliver Lieb, the Rising High crew and Sun Electric (yes - I know they weren't *just* trance producers, but they did make trance). Please no anti-trance flames. I'm sure most of us can, do and have agreed about that - and you'll be preaching to the converted at best. This was well before the codification of the genre as we know it today. Some of it may be a bit too sweet by most techno tastes, but it was every bit the evolving genre that techno was for a brief time, until it became a marketing tool rather than a musical style. I feel like I just wrote one of those email legal disclaimers that so many of our subscribers are stuck with today. :) I read an interview with him in a dutch magazine 2 years ago where he said that producers who start to DJ are lame and just a sell-out. He didn't say anything about a DJ who needs other producers to make records as the DJ. Ack! I'm not touching either part of that one with a 10 foot pole. :) Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There was lots of lov-ie dubby-iness going on between what appeared to be vath and hawtin.. but oh, sitting there in the background on the stage, was richie's g-friend. She was the one making him smile;) she helped him finish off his set, handed him a record or two. but yes vath and hawtin were smiling at one another the entire night! i had been looking forward to seeing vath for about 2-3 months .. but the records he was playing were like candy compared to what hawtin was dropping. i missed his set at vinyl on saturday though, i heard he dropped some pretty dope stuff there. -pete -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:03 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; innercity records; Martijn de Blaauw; Grammenos, Peter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven ahh you see he is the man! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 12:42 To: innercity records; Martijn de Blaauw; Grammenos; Peter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven Last year at the dutch Dance Valley festival he fell from this golf car and broke his arm. He had to play the final slot at the Techno Tent, which was hosted by Cocoon. Richie Hawtin was playing before him, and was still around when Vath started. Hawtin would put one of Vath's records on the deck, put the needle on it, and he then would help Vath putting the headphone on his head. Vath also had someone to flip through his records for him. Very funny to see, but he still managed to rock the place! W -Original Message- From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:17 AM To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Grammenos; Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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love is in the air! And isn't great when yo see DJ's getting along and having a laugh, all DJ's should have this mentallity, not likem Dave CLarke and Carl Cox who I saw at the End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than he should of.. fair enuff every DJ likes one more tunes but Mr Clarke got a bot funny and knocked Carl while he got to the decks, to the punters it looked really bad. But hey we all get in moods and DJ's are the same, so hey its nice too see when they are having fun together.. a martch made in heaven Sven Richie ( and his woman) on the same nite...loved up all the time! -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 15:04 To: 'Ian Cheshire'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; innercity records; Martijn de Blaauw; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven There was lots of lov-ie dubby-iness going on between what appeared to be vath and hawtin.. but oh, sitting there in the background on the stage, was richie's g-friend. She was the one making him smile;) she helped him finish off his set, handed him a record or two. but yes vath and hawtin were smiling at one another the entire night! i had been looking forward to seeing vath for about 2-3 months .. but the records he was playing were like candy compared to what hawtin was dropping. i missed his set at vinyl on saturday though, i heard he dropped some pretty dope stuff there. -pete -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:03 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; innercity records; Martijn de Blaauw; Grammenos, Peter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven ahh you see he is the man! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 12:42 To: innercity records; Martijn de Blaauw; Grammenos; Peter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven Last year at the dutch Dance Valley festival he fell from this golf car and broke his arm. He had to play the final slot at the Techno Tent, which was hosted by Cocoon. Richie Hawtin was playing before him, and was still around when Vath started. Hawtin would put one of Vath's records on the deck, put the needle on it, and he then would help Vath putting the headphone on his head. Vath also had someone to flip through his records for him. Very funny to see, but he still managed to rock the place! W -Original Message- From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:17 AM To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Grammenos; Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any
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who I saw at the End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than he should of.. does Dave have a problem with EVERYBODY? Seriously, i know he has a rep for being straightforward and blunt, but he seems like he has a bit of a whiney streak too. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Carl Cox is quite known for his friendly behaviour towards punters and fellow dj´s/promotors.. Who can resist the big smile of big, bad, bold Coxy? - Original Message - From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven who I saw at the End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than he should of.. does Dave have a problem with EVERYBODY? Seriously, i know he has a rep for being straightforward and blunt, but he seems like he has a bit of a whiney streak too. _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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not my wife, who proudly had her breast signed by him!! What a lucky girl! -Original Message- From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 17:13 To: Jayson B.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven Carl Cox is quite known for his friendly behaviour towards punters and fellow dj´s/promotors.. Who can resist the big smile of big, bad, bold Coxy? - Original Message - From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven who I saw at the End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than he should of.. does Dave have a problem with EVERYBODY? Seriously, i know he has a rep for being straightforward and blunt, but he seems like he has a bit of a whiney streak too. _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great ambassador for Euro techno as Ian and Paul said as a DJ, although some of his conceptual LP releases were a bit dogdy...Harlequin and the Robot Dancer anyone? - I like contact a lot, it's very electro w/ one idm'ish. pathfinder and deim schwiss (sp?) are steady rockers. side a and b all four songs are rich, with c and d pulling in 2 out of 4. pretty good lp if you can find it, I really want a second one because mine is a little warped (damn it!). scotto _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven vs BONES
One time frankie bones fell off the stage at a party in la and broke his front tooth.. He still played even though blood was coming out of his mouth.. What dedication :) on 4/18/02 5:03 AM, Ian Cheshire at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ahh you see he is the man! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2002 12:42 To: innercity records; Martijn de Blaauw; Grammenos; Peter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven Last year at the dutch Dance Valley festival he fell from this golf car and broke his arm. He had to play the final slot at the Techno Tent, which was hosted by Cocoon. Richie Hawtin was playing before him, and was still around when Vath started. Hawtin would put one of Vath's records on the deck, put the needle on it, and he then would help Vath putting the headphone on his head. Vath also had someone to flip through his records for him. Very funny to see, but he still managed to rock the place! W -Original Message- From: innercity records [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:17 AM To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Grammenos; Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?). certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list. paul - Original Message - From: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!! Got the whole set at home for those interessted. Okay , back to obscure techno business now.. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up I'd just like to back up what our friend Martijn says: Richie is my God, Sven as the arch-angel sits by this throne on the right hand side. There's good trance and there's bubblegum trance. My definition of good trance is that which is not a million miles removed from Techno. I'd never call Harthouse's trance bubblegum. Sometimes his sets are 'trancey' and sometimes they are as hard as nails. I dont think I have ever been disappointed with Sven. Yeah sometimes his set didn't get the usual 8 or 9 outta 10 with me. But then even Richie's had a bum mark once or twice and nearly got a detention once at the End! I had the pleasure of going to TimeWarp in Mannheim last year and was amazed. As I remember Sven came on about 5:00am and played through to the official close at 7:00am. Now Mannheim is about 30/45 minutes from Frankfurt Airport and I had a plane back to London around 2:30pm. I remember leaving TimeWarp at around midday and Sven was still playing. And he's such a cool friendly guy. He recognises my face and has often come over to me and said 'Hey how are you?' and so he obviously knows I'm English. It's never been 'Wie gehen sie?' even in the German clubs. Another brilliant set I saw of Sven's was at what was one of the final birthday parties at the Dorian Grey club also at Frankfurt airport. Now that is (was)something else. I remember walking through the deserted airport around 11.30 at night looking for the club. Coming out of there the next day (Sunday afternoon) at around 1.30pm you don't half get some strange looks - with the airport then packed to the seams with travellers.. pretty mind blowing!! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Is it at the Frankfurt airport where they also have an Elektrolux tune (Supreme Particles' Light as Skin) on continuous loop through one of the terminal halls? If so have you ever heard it there? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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but, as you said, he does play a mean electro set. i've been to a couple of nights that if it weren't for him, would have been completely boring. i think there was a lost, at the scala maybe, where he's set was the only interesting and dancable stuff played. i'm going to get done for that as i can't remember who the other headliner was, just that it was someone well popular? anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump carl cox off the decks. i can also think of a lot of great dj's who have openly criticised drug taking. -Original Message- From: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: 18 April 2002 21:32 Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven And isn't great when yo see DJ's getting along and having a laugh, all DJ's should have this mentallity, not likem Dave CLarke and Carl Cox who I saw at the End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than he should of.. fair enuff every DJ likes one more tunes but Mr Clarke got a bot funny and knocked Carl while he got to the decks, to the punters it looked really bad. yeah that's another reason I hate Dark Cave - he's such a moody fellah. I too have seen him throwing his attitude (on many occasions) - and without fail 2 minutes before the end of his set on goes the leather jacket and to the dot 2 minutes later off comes the needle and he's on his way. Back in the early days he was very outspoken about drugs, how bad they are (which is a matter of opinion) and about kids necking 'e's. He had some very disrespectful comments to make. Seems a bit strange to me, seeing as drugs play a major part on the dance scene and its mainly down to these drugged kids that he's a millionaire today. love is in the air! Sorry - not between me and CD .. (and just to keep my m8 gary quiet ... ) - yeah he has played some good sets in his time. I can think of a few place I heard him and begrudgingly had to admit his was the best set of the night... The electro set he played at Cargo on World DJ Day was great and I thoroughly enjoyed hearing the same sort of set from him again at Atomic Jam a few days later (or was it b4 . that's the trouble with drugs!) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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anyone know what version of sharivari he played? fowlkes version?? or what octave one track? From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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that would be the 'cycloops'... unlikely, more likely the electrix repeater. robin... Started off with loopy bangy stuff from both but then rich dropped this version of sharivari that I've never heard before and the deepness began! Best set I've seen rich spin in a couple of years, had the crowd going, and if it was his goal to win over nyc he's done so ;) He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, making loop points on the fly. He spun till about 4 or so them safety scissors played till about 5, one of the most eclectic sets I've ever heard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sven Vath. -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:44 PM To: ryan burns; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven The only other Sharivari remix I know of is the Hacker Vitalic remix on Gigolo. I think it rocks, but of course don't know if Richie played that one. Sven who? is meant in the subject by the way? Joost -Original Message- From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 17 april 2002 07:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven anyone know what version of sharivari he played? fowlkes version?? or what octave one track? From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
And how did he do? -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 17 april 2002 18:48 To: 'Ploegmakers, Joost'; ryan burns; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven Vath. -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:44 PM To: ryan burns; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven The only other Sharivari remix I know of is the Hacker Vitalic remix on Gigolo. I think it rocks, but of course don't know if Richie played that one. Sven who? is meant in the subject by the way? Joost -Original Message- From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 17 april 2002 07:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven anyone know what version of sharivari he played? fowlkes version?? or what octave one track? From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
He was dropping trancy tracks, so not very good. I was dissapointed, was looking forward to seeing him. Krome played great tracks but had quite a few train-wrecks. -Pete -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:52 PM To: Grammenos, Peter; ryan burns; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven And how did he do? -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 17 april 2002 18:48 To: 'Ploegmakers, Joost'; ryan burns; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven Vath. -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:44 PM To: ryan burns; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven The only other Sharivari remix I know of is the Hacker Vitalic remix on Gigolo. I think it rocks, but of course don't know if Richie played that one. Sven who? is meant in the subject by the way? Joost -Original Message- From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 17 april 2002 07:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven anyone know what version of sharivari he played? fowlkes version?? or what octave one track? From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
i saw vath in the Tresor club last month, i must say his mixing skills were not so adept and he played very hard and trancey set that did not make me happy. i prefered the basement with the rampe D dj`s Y - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
i saw some video footage of Sven at Timewarp about 2 weeks ago, and he was playing the Hacker remix. On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Ploegmakers, Joost wrote: The only other Sharivari remix I know of is the Hacker Vitalic remix on Gigolo. I think it rocks, but of course don't know if Richie played that one. Sven who? is meant in the subject by the way? Joost -Original Message- From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 17 april 2002 07:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven anyone know what version of sharivari he played? fowlkes version?? or what octave one track? From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. BUT, the two times I saw him last year (Toronto and Miami) he threw down amazing techno sets. On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Super Coffee Beans wrote: i saw vath in the Tresor club last month, i must say his mixing skills were not so adept and he played very hard and trancey set that did not make me happy. i prefered the basement with the rampe D dj`s Y - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:00 PM To: Super Coffee Beans Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he spends more time waving his hands than mixing records. PG if anyone is interested in seeing the waving of the hands check out the new sven set up on klubradio.de , very funny indeed. he was doing the same @ tronic treatment this past monday. BUT, the two times I saw him last year (Toronto and Miami) he threw down amazing techno sets. On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Super Coffee Beans wrote: i saw vath in the Tresor club last month, i must say his mixing skills were not so adept and he played very hard and trancey set that did not make me happy. i prefered the basement with the rampe D dj`s Y - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
that would be the 'cycloops'... On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 02:49 PM, Grammenos, Peter wrote: Started off with loopy bangy stuff from both but then rich dropped this version of sharivari that I've never heard before and the deepness began! Best set I've seen rich spin in a couple of years, had the crowd going, and if it was his goal to win over nyc he's done so ;) He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, making loop points on the fly. He spun till about 4 or so them safety scissors played till about 5, one of the most eclectic sets I've ever heard. -Pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
