Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival
:P wrote: american funk. not much funk goes on in africa. funk is as african as a bag of white castle (for you detroiters) I suggest reading up on Fela Kuti: http://www.jaybabcock.com/bootsyside.html http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/k/kutifela-best.html http://www.felaproject.net/ If anyone has any recommendations for afro-funk artists besides Fela Kuti, please send them to me off-list. Thanks. - Mike mike j. brown | xml/xslt: http://skew.org/xml/ denver/boulder, colorado, usa | personal: http://hyperreal.org/~mike/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Fischerspooner] likes to present itself as the vanguard of a new pretentiousness movement. - NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/05/arts/music/05REYN.html?pagewanted=1 Dunno 'bout y'all but I've always done my best to avoid pretentiousness. The fashionista sillyness surrounding the whole Electro-clash/Techno-Pop/whatever-you-wanna-call-it scene is precisely what bothers me about it... While I enjoy a fair amount of the music being put out, *most* of the related parties I've been to here in NY have totally put me off - people are just trying too hard to be stylish. At it's best it can be a bit of fun, but for the most part it's just getting boring. Members Only jackets and Bon Jour jeans were never all that cool back in the 80s and they haven't improved with age. Just weighing in with my opinion m*not even gonna get into the problems I have with the article*;-) NP - Creme De Menthe Plastique Disko B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hmmm, somebody is missing the joke... e Mark S. Krüx wrote: [Fischerspooner] likes to present itself as the vanguard of a new pretentiousness movement. - NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/05/arts/music/05REYN.html?pagewanted=1 Dunno 'bout y'all but I've always done my best to avoid pretentiousness. The fashionista sillyness surrounding the whole Electro-clash/Techno-Pop/whatever-you-wanna-call-it scene is precisely what bothers me about it... While I enjoy a fair amount of the music being put out, *most* of the related parties I've been to here in NY have totally put me off - people are just trying too hard to be stylish. At it's best it can be a bit of fun, but for the most part it's just getting boring. Members Only jackets and Bon Jour jeans were never all that cool back in the 80s and they haven't improved with age. Just weighing in with my opinion m*not even gonna get into the problems I have with the article*;-) NP - Creme De Menthe Plastique Disko B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 6 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you on this one, bro. This whole New Wave retro craze is alot of posing, if you ask me. And most of this electro-pop crap these days has forgotten the funk. Stop trying to relive the 80's, and do your own sh*t. Err I'd say 2 things to temper this statement: 1. Separate the music from the fashion craze. That whole business is going to be played out in NYC in 6 months and I can't see it blowing up nationwide unless Britney or Green Day jump on the bandwagon. 2. Separate the people who've been on it for years -- Ectomorph, Adult, Drexciya, Japanese Telecom, Dopplereffekt -- from the guy in the lace panties and eyeliner. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't know. I love techno. I love electro. And, some of it sounds really great together. Ms. Kitten, Felix da Housecat, Adult, Egyptian Lover...sure the label seems ill fitting, but I also know people who will sit awake a whole night arguing the finer nuances of the 19,000 genres of techno. I'd rather dance. I believe that Adam Miller's comment was incendiary, to say the least, and I most definitely disagree with it, but some reporter's desire to write the cultural and musical equivalent of a flashy Cosmopolitan article just isn't enough to make me lash out. Dina - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival I'm with you on this one, bro. This whole New Wave retro craze is alot of posing, if you ask me. And most of this electro-pop crap these days has forgotten the funk. Stop trying to relive the 80's, and do your own sh*t. Ego way the f**k out of check, Jason on 5/6/02 5:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite - electro is a relative of hip-hop. What seems to be forgotten in all of the new-wave stuff is the quintessential funk - the African heritage. - This message was sent via the BiznessOnline.com webmail system. http://www.biznessonline.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A good piece by Amanda Nowinsky in the Bay Guardian about electro-punk in SF: http://www.sfbg.com/36/31/art_music_electro_punk.html And a double bonus, a nice article in the same ish about Sutekh: http://www.sfbg.com/36/31/art_musi_sutekh.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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speaking of which, Im ready for an acid house revival. I got an old 87/88 acid mix U need a fast connection its about 22mb's bu proper old chicago acid house... http://www.spr-consilio.com/rollingsound/pl.mp3 Lemme know what u think placid -Joe fux - Original Message - From: Suman Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival following up on that NYTimes article, here's another NYC publication's take on the 'electro revival', from the Village Voice website (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0218/rewind.php)...the last paragraph is the most interesting one: Rewind! by Tricia Romano You know the electro revival is officially over when one of the biggest names in the rejuvenated genre turns up at his gig and plays nothing but acid house. That's what Ed DMX of DMX Krew did at the Tribeca Grand on Sunday night. But as he started piling up the ACEEED, the dancefloor started piling up with punters w ho were 'aving it, including Elliot Taub (a/k/a DJ Ulysses), Satamile, and Melis sa of W.I.T. Sitting in the corner was Flyer's Daniel Shumate, who I had to scold for the pre vious night's faux pas. Mr. Shumate blabbered to the techno-geek grapevine that Detroit techno DJ Derrick May was spinning at the Foundation Crew's party at Groovejet. Of course, a Derrick May sighting is almost as rare as spotting Salman Rushdie back when the Ayatollah wanted his head. The rumor was believable only be cause promoter/DJ Kimyon has ties to Detroit. But I'm beginning to believe that Derrick, like Santa Claus, is not real. He wasn't there, alas. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey thanks Paul, Im listening right now. its soothing somehow... maybe because acid house was my first focus when I started producing keep em coming :) -Joe fux www.emmrecords.com/teh_fux - Original Message - From: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Suman Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival speaking of which, Im ready for an acid house revival. I got an old 87/88 acid mix U need a fast connection its about 22mb's bu proper old chicago acid house... http://www.spr-consilio.com/rollingsound/pl.mp3 Lemme know what u think placid -Joe fux - Original Message - From: Suman Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival following up on that NYTimes article, here's another NYC publication's take on the 'electro revival', from the Village Voice website (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0218/rewind.php)...the last paragraph is the most interesting one: Rewind! by Tricia Romano You know the electro revival is officially over when one of the biggest names in the rejuvenated genre turns up at his gig and plays nothing but acid house. That's what Ed DMX of DMX Krew did at the Tribeca Grand on Sunday night. But as he started piling up the ACEEED, the dancefloor started piling up with punters w ho were 'aving it, including Elliot Taub (a/k/a DJ Ulysses), Satamile, and Melis sa of W.I.T. Sitting in the corner was Flyer's Daniel Shumate, who I had to scold for the pre vious night's faux pas. Mr. Shumate blabbered to the techno-geek grapevine that Detroit techno DJ Derrick May was spinning at the Foundation Crew's party at Groovejet. Of course, a Derrick May sighting is almost as rare as spotting Salman Rushdie back when the Ayatollah wanted his head. The rumor was believable only be cause promoter/DJ Kimyon has ties to Detroit. But I'm beginning to believe that Derrick, like Santa Claus, is not real. He wasn't there, alas. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah cool mix! Listening right now. A lot of unknows for me, suppose you don'thave a tracklist? For me acid house don't need a revival, it's just still there! Here's a housemix from me and a friend: http://www.syncomdata.net/mix.ram Have fun! http://www.syncomdata.net/mix.htm - Original Message - From: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Suman Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 07 May, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival Hey thanks Paul, Im listening right now. its soothing somehow... maybe because acid house was my first focus when I started producing keep em coming :) -Joe fux www.emmrecords.com/teh_fux - Original Message - From: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Suman Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival speaking of which, Im ready for an acid house revival. I got an old 87/88 acid mix U need a fast connection its about 22mb's bu proper old chicago acid house... http://www.spr-consilio.com/rollingsound/pl.mp3 Lemme know what u think placid -Joe fux - Original Message - From: Suman Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival following up on that NYTimes article, here's another NYC publication's take on the 'electro revival', from the Village Voice website (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0218/rewind.php)...the last paragraph is the most interesting one: Rewind! by Tricia Romano You know the electro revival is officially over when one of the biggest names in the rejuvenated genre turns up at his gig and plays nothing but acid house. That's what Ed DMX of DMX Krew did at the Tribeca Grand on Sunday night. But as he started piling up the ACEEED, the dancefloor started piling up with punters w ho were 'aving it, including Elliot Taub (a/k/a DJ Ulysses), Satamile, and Melis sa of W.I.T. Sitting in the corner was Flyer's Daniel Shumate, who I had to scold for the pre vious night's faux pas. Mr. Shumate blabbered to the techno-geek grapevine that Detroit techno DJ Derrick May was spinning at the Foundation Crew's party at Groovejet. Of course, a Derrick May sighting is almost as rare as spotting Salman Rushdie back when the Ayatollah wanted his head. The rumor was believable only be cause promoter/DJ Kimyon has ties to Detroit. But I'm beginning to believe that Derrick, like Santa Claus, is not real. He wasn't there, alas. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Adult must have a rulebook themselves, how else can you explain that all their music sounds the same? - Original Message - From: Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 06 May, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: RE: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival At 12:44 PM 5/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: Just out of curiosity, could someone point me to the Techno Rulebook? I'd like to peruse it's pages to find out where guys like Theorem, Christian Bloch, and Kit Clayton have gone wrong. We obviously have been mistaken in calling their music Techno as they sound nothing alike or like any of the more established artists. Oh no! What did I break now? First its: Press Play, Milli. Then: Is he alive or dead? And now: You Broke The Law! I'm just going to quit and start that brick-laying business... ;) Dale - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sunday, May 05, 2002, 6:54:38 PM, you wrote: HS Here's a quote to fire things up: HS Techno is strangling itself with its own provincial rulebook, said Mr. HS Miller of Adult. People have finally grown tired of this. Electro has no HS real sense of rules, and thus there is a lot of excitement, innovation and HS creativity. As an emotionless, rule-abiding drone of the technostruct, I am programmed to take offense. -- Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just out of curiosity, could someone point me to the Techno Rulebook? I'd like to peruse it's pages to find out where guys like Theorem, Christian Bloch, and Kit Clayton have gone wrong. We obviously have been mistaken in calling their music Techno as they sound nothing alike or like any of the more established artists. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:43 PM To: Hugo Sweet Cc: 313 (E-mail) Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival Techno is strangling itself with its own provincial rulebook, said Mr. Miller of Adult. People have finally grown tired of this. Electro has no real sense of rules, and thus there is a lot of excitement, innovation and creativity. Sure - that's why all the new electro acts sound like either Fischerspooner or Miss Kitten and the Hacker. As Rik once said on the Young Ones - We're all so decadent! MEK Hugo Sweet [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org tles.co.nz cc: Subject: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival 05/05/02 07:54 PM This article in the New York Times makes some interesting points about fashion and music, electro versus techno, and about retro-futurism: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/05/arts/music/05REYN.html?pagewanted=all Here's a quote to fire things up: Techno is strangling itself with its own provincial rulebook, said Mr. Miller of Adult. People have finally grown tired of this. Electro has no real sense of rules, and thus there is a lot of excitement, innovation and creativity. Hugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/05/arts/music/05REYN.html?pagewanted=1 At 11:43 AM 5/6/2002 -0500, you wrote: Techno is strangling itself with its own provincial rulebook, said Mr. Miller of Adult. People have finally grown tired of this. Electro has no real sense of rules, and thus there is a lot of excitement, innovation and creativity. Sure - that's why all the new electro acts sound like either Fischerspooner or Miss Kitten and the Hacker. As Rik once said on the Young Ones - We're all so decadent! MEK Hugo Sweet [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org tles.co.nz cc: Subject: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival 05/05/02 07:54 PM This article in the New York Times makes some interesting points about fashion and music, electro versus techno, and about retro-futurism: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/05/arts/music/05REYN.html?pagewanted=all Here's a quote to fire things up: Techno is strangling itself with its own provincial rulebook, said Mr. Miller of Adult. People have finally grown tired of this. Electro has no real sense of rules, and thus there is a lot of excitement, innovation and creativity. Hugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From the NY Times article: Electro is a return to what clubs were like before house music and Ecstasy hit the scene, a rewind to a time when the goal was to stand out from the crowd. Take the scene anthem Frank Sinatra by Miss Kittin and the Hacker. With its references to champagne, cocaine and limousines, and the deadpan hauteur of Miss Kittin's spoken-not-sung vocals, the song both celebrates and satirizes the idea of a velvet-rope elite. I am legendary, you are not, declaims the imperious chorus of It's Over by the Hungry Wives. I'm sorry, but that just is NOT electro - that is what electro became in the eyes of the uber-hip NY nightclubbing cognoscente - it's just a New Wave revival though. Misusing the words really pisses me off because it confuses people who don't know. As far as I'm concerned New Wave dumped the funk and in favor of the freakiness. I don't remember electro as ever being a means to stand out from the crowd - more of a way to bond with your crew. And velvet-rope elite?! Electro is so far away from that crap - it's a street sound! MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 5/6/02 1:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, but that just is NOT electro - that is what electro became in the eyes of the uber-hip NY nightclubbing cognoscente - it's just a New Wave revival though. Misusing the words really pisses me off because it confuses people who don't know. As far as I'm concernedNew Wave dumped the funk and in favor of the freakiness. I don't remember electro as ever being a means to stand out from the crowd - more of a way to bond with your crew. And velvet-ropeelite?! Electro is so far away from that crap - it's a street sound! I absolutely agree with you. It's a pretty obvious misuse of the term. Unfortunately, what we know to be Electro may become relegated to old-school or breakin' music, if the term catches on. I recently dug up the alternate mixes of Hardcastle's 19 and surprised myself. I also overheard Bad Times at work and on the radio last week. Classics that have only a little to do with the Re:Wave (as I like to call it). -- im - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It strikes me that electro is essentially any music that is derived from the original 808 sound of Planet Rock. The fact that you may not like what some people did with electro doesn't give you the right to make the word non-applicable to the strands you disapprove of. Please get your ego in check my friend. Besides, the style of original electro artsit (Afrika Bambataa, Egyptian Lover...) was very funny and gaudy and stand-outish. Please note these pic of Afrika Bambaataa: http://www.zulunation.com/afrika.html Also, please don't use vague words like 'street sound' when making declarations. It takes all the sport out of rebuting your claims. Signed- Your friendly neighborhood Spiderman On Mon, 6 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the NY Times article: Electro is a return to what clubs were like before house music and Ecstasy hit the scene, a rewind to a time when the goal was to stand out from the crowd. Take the scene anthem Frank Sinatra by Miss Kittin and the Hacker. With its references to champagne, cocaine and limousines, and the deadpan hauteur of Miss Kittin's spoken-not-sung vocals, the song both celebrates and satirizes the idea of a velvet-rope elite. I am legendary, you are not, declaims the imperious chorus of It's Over by the Hungry Wives. I'm sorry, but that just is NOT electro - that is what electro became in the eyes of the uber-hip NY nightclubbing cognoscente - it's just a New Wave revival though. Misusing the words really pisses me off because it confuses people who don't know. As far as I'm concerned New Wave dumped the funk and in favor of the freakiness. I don't remember electro as ever being a means to stand out from the crowd - more of a way to bond with your crew. And velvet-rope elite?! Electro is so far away from that crap - it's a street sound! MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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following up on that NYTimes article, here's another NYC publication's take on the 'electro revival', from the Village Voice website (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0218/rewind.php)...the last paragraph is the most interesting one: Rewind! by Tricia Romano You know the electro revival is officially over when one of the biggest names in the rejuvenated genre turns up at his gig and plays nothing but acid house. That's what Ed DMX of DMX Krew did at the Tribeca Grand on Sunday night. But as he started piling up the ACEEED, the dancefloor started piling up with punters w ho were 'aving it, including Elliot Taub (a/k/a DJ Ulysses), Satamile, and Melis sa of W.I.T. Sitting in the corner was Flyer's Daniel Shumate, who I had to scold for the pre vious night's faux pas. Mr. Shumate blabbered to the techno-geek grapevine that Detroit techno DJ Derrick May was spinning at the Foundation Crew's party at Groovejet. Of course, a Derrick May sighting is almost as rare as spotting Salman Rushdie back when the Ayatollah wanted his head. The rumor was believable only be cause promoter/DJ Kimyon has ties to Detroit. But I'm beginning to believe that Derrick, like Santa Claus, is not real. He wasn't there, alas. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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speaking of which, Im ready for an acid house revival. -Joe fux - Original Message - From: Suman Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival following up on that NYTimes article, here's another NYC publication's take on the 'electro revival', from the Village Voice website (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0218/rewind.php)...the last paragraph is the most interesting one: Rewind! by Tricia Romano You know the electro revival is officially over when one of the biggest names in the rejuvenated genre turns up at his gig and plays nothing but acid house. That's what Ed DMX of DMX Krew did at the Tribeca Grand on Sunday night. But as he started piling up the ACEEED, the dancefloor started piling up with punters w ho were 'aving it, including Elliot Taub (a/k/a DJ Ulysses), Satamile, and Melis sa of W.I.T. Sitting in the corner was Flyer's Daniel Shumate, who I had to scold for the pre vious night's faux pas. Mr. Shumate blabbered to the techno-geek grapevine that Detroit techno DJ Derrick May was spinning at the Foundation Crew's party at Groovejet. Of course, a Derrick May sighting is almost as rare as spotting Salman Rushdie back when the Ayatollah wanted his head. The rumor was believable only be cause promoter/DJ Kimyon has ties to Detroit. But I'm beginning to believe that Derrick, like Santa Claus, is not real. He wasn't there, alas. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 12:44 PM 5/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: Just out of curiosity, could someone point me to the Techno Rulebook? I'd like to peruse it's pages to find out where guys like Theorem, Christian Bloch, and Kit Clayton have gone wrong. We obviously have been mistaken in calling their music Techno as they sound nothing alike or like any of the more established artists. Oh no! What did I break now? First its: Press Play, Milli. Then: Is he alive or dead? And now: You Broke The Law! I'm just going to quit and start that brick-laying business... ;) Dale - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.askjeeves.com/main/askJeeves.asp?ask=where+can+I+find+the+techno+rulebook%3Fori=0qsrc=0meta=1 - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: Dale Lawrence Sent: Monday, May 6, 2002 4:54 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival At 12:44 PM 5/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: Just out of curiosity, could someone point me to the Techno Rulebook? I'd like to peruse it's pages to find out where guys like Theorem, Christian Bloch, and Kit Clayton have gone wrong. We obviously have been mistaken in calling their music Techno as they sound nothing alike or like any of the more established artists. Oh no! What did I break now? First its: Press Play, Milli. Then: Is he alive or dead? And now: You Broke The Law! I'm just going to quit and start that brick-laying business... ;) Dale - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i always thought this was the techno formula : http://music.hyperreal.org/library/how_to_be_a_techno_god this still makes me laugh -pete -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:01 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org; Dale Lawrence Subject: RE: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival http://www.askjeeves.com/main/askJeeves.asp?ask=where+can+I+find+the+techno+ rulebook%3Fori=0qsrc=0meta=1 - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: Dale Lawrence Sent: Monday, May 6, 2002 4:54 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival At 12:44 PM 5/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: Just out of curiosity, could someone point me to the Techno Rulebook? I'd like to peruse it's pages to find out where guys like Theorem, Christian Bloch, and Kit Clayton have gone wrong. We obviously have been mistaken in calling their music Techno as they sound nothing alike or like any of the more established artists. Oh no! What did I break now? First its: Press Play, Milli. Then: Is he alive or dead? And now: You Broke The Law! I'm just going to quit and start that brick-laying business... ;) Dale - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival
Not quite - electro is a relative of hip-hop. What seems to be forgotten in all of the new-wave stuff is the quintessential funk - the African heritage. When I said I don't remember electro as ever being a means to stand out from the crowd - more of a way to bond with your crew. I didn't mean the artist - but the audience. With the new-wave stuff it's the audience that is trying to out retrofy each other. Street sound is not a vague term. Unless you don't understand. Ego in check. The Incredible Hulk [EMAIL PROTECTED] net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 05/06/02 02:17 PMSubject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival It strikes me that electro is essentially any music that is derived from the original 808 sound of Planet Rock. The fact that you may not like what some people did with electro doesn't give you the right to make the word non-applicable to the strands you disapprove of. Please get your ego in check my friend. Besides, the style of original electro artsit (Afrika Bambataa, Egyptian Lover...) was very funny and gaudy and stand-outish. Please note these pic of Afrika Bambaataa: http://www.zulunation.com/afrika.html Also, please don't use vague words like 'street sound' when making declarations. It takes all the sport out of rebuting your claims. Signed- Your friendly neighborhood Spiderman On Mon, 6 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the NY Times article: Electro is a return to what clubs were like before house music and Ecstasy hit the scene, a rewind to a time when the goal was to stand out from the crowd. Take the scene anthem Frank Sinatra by Miss Kittin and the Hacker. With its references to champagne, cocaine and limousines, and the deadpan hauteur of Miss Kittin's spoken-not-sung vocals, the song both celebrates and satirizes the idea of a velvet-rope elite. I am legendary, you are not, declaims the imperious chorus of It's Over by the Hungry Wives. I'm sorry, but that just is NOT electro - that is what electro became in the eyes of the uber-hip NY nightclubbing cognoscente - it's just a New Wave revival though. Misusing the words really pisses me off because it confuses people who don't know. As far as I'm concerned New Wave dumped the funk and in favor of the freakiness. I don't remember electro as ever being a means to stand out from the crowd - more of a way to bond with your crew. And velvet-rope elite?! Electro is so far away from that crap - it's a street sound! MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival
I'm with you on this one, bro. This whole New Wave retro craze is alot of posing, if you ask me. And most of this electro-pop crap these days has forgotten the funk. Stop trying to relive the 80's, and do your own sh*t. Ego way the f**k out of check, Jason on 5/6/02 5:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite - electro is a relative of hip-hop. What seems to be forgotten in all of the new-wave stuff is the quintessential funk - the African heritage. - This message was sent via the BiznessOnline.com webmail system. http://www.biznessonline.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival
american funk. not much funk goes on in africa. funk is as african as a bag of white castle (for you detroiters) my opinion, -Joe fux www.emmrecords.com/teh_fux - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival I'm with you on this one, bro. This whole New Wave retro craze is alot of posing, if you ask me. And most of this electro-pop crap these days has forgotten the funk. Stop trying to relive the 80's, and do your own sh*t. Ego way the f**k out of check, Jason on 5/6/02 5:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite - electro is a relative of hip-hop. What seems to be forgotten in all of the new-wave stuff is the quintessential funk - the African heritage. - This message was sent via the BiznessOnline.com webmail system. http://www.biznessonline.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
