Re: MT: Ghostly brings back 'Techno Rebels' T-shirts for Dan Sicko scholarship
Shirt looks to be sold out already! On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: http://www.metrotimes.com/Blogs/archives/2015/05/20/ghostly-brings-back- techno-rebels-t-shirts-for-dan-sicko-scholarship Ghostly brings back 'Techno Rebels' T-shirts for Dan Sicko scholarship Posted By Lee DeVito on Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM Among the many artifacts on display at Exhibit 3000 — Underground Resistance's secret techno museum in Detroit — is a book enclosed in a glass case called Techno Rebels: The Renegades of Electronic Funk by journalist Dan Sicko. Our tour guide for the day gave the book props, saying he felt it accurately captured the essence and told the story of Detroit techno in a way few other books have. Sicko died in 2011 at the age of 42, having battled ocular melanoma since being diagnosed in 2008. Shortly after, Ghostly adapted his book title into a Detroit Renegade of Electronic Funk limited run T-shirt with all proceeds going to help raise money for Sicko's family. Fours years later, the Detroit Sound Conservancy has launched a campaign to create a special music journalism scholarship in Sicko's name, and Ghostly is bringing back the T-shirt to help raise funds. The shirt is now offered in black and indigo, and proceeds from all online sales will go directly to DSC. Head over to Ghostly's store to grab one, or WSU Press to pick up a copy of the book. Check out MT's original review of the book here. http://www.theghostlystore.com/collections/frontpage/products/detroit-renegade- of-electronic-funk-black http://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/techno-rebels http://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/future-perfect/Content?oid=2169476
Re: MT: Ghostly brings back 'Techno Rebels' T-shirts for Dan Sicko scholarship
Hah, sold out in every size. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: http://www.metrotimes.com/Blogs/archives/2015/05/20/ghostly-brings-back- techno-rebels-t-shirts-for-dan-sicko-scholarship Ghostly brings back 'Techno Rebels' T-shirts for Dan Sicko scholarship Posted By Lee DeVito on Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM Among the many artifacts on display at Exhibit 3000 — Underground Resistance's secret techno museum in Detroit — is a book enclosed in a glass case called Techno Rebels: The Renegades of Electronic Funk by journalist Dan Sicko. Our tour guide for the day gave the book props, saying he felt it accurately captured the essence and told the story of Detroit techno in a way few other books have. Sicko died in 2011 at the age of 42, having battled ocular melanoma since being diagnosed in 2008. Shortly after, Ghostly adapted his book title into a Detroit Renegade of Electronic Funk limited run T-shirt with all proceeds going to help raise money for Sicko's family. Fours years later, the Detroit Sound Conservancy has launched a campaign to create a special music journalism scholarship in Sicko's name, and Ghostly is bringing back the T-shirt to help raise funds. The shirt is now offered in black and indigo, and proceeds from all online sales will go directly to DSC. Head over to Ghostly's store to grab one, or WSU Press to pick up a copy of the book. Check out MT's original review of the book here. http://www.theghostlystore.com/collections/frontpage/products/detroit-renegade- of-electronic-funk-black http://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/techno-rebels http://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/future-perfect/Content?oid=2169476 -- matt kane's brain im: mkb.dirty...@gmail.com (gtalk) / mkbatwerk (AIM) twitter: the_real_mkb / nynexrepublic http://hydrogenproject.com
MT: Ghostly brings back 'Techno Rebels' T-shirts for Dan Sicko scholarship
http://www.metrotimes.com/Blogs/archives/2015/05/20/ghostly-brings-back- techno-rebels-t-shirts-for-dan-sicko-scholarship Ghostly brings back 'Techno Rebels' T-shirts for Dan Sicko scholarship Posted By Lee DeVito on Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM Among the many artifacts on display at Exhibit 3000 Underground Resistance's secret techno museum in Detroit is a book enclosed in a glass case called Techno Rebels: The Renegades of Electronic Funk by journalist Dan Sicko. Our tour guide for the day gave the book props, saying he felt it accurately captured the essence and told the story of Detroit techno in a way few other books have. Sicko died in 2011 at the age of 42, having battled ocular melanoma since being diagnosed in 2008. Shortly after, Ghostly adapted his book title into a Detroit Renegade of Electronic Funk limited run T-shirt with all proceeds going to help raise money for Sicko's family. Fours years later, the Detroit Sound Conservancy has launched a campaign to create a special music journalism scholarship in Sicko's name, and Ghostly is bringing back the T-shirt to help raise funds. The shirt is now offered in black and indigo, and proceeds from all online sales will go directly to DSC. Head over to Ghostly's store to grab one, or WSU Press to pick up a copy of the book. Check out MT's original review of the book here. http://www.theghostlystore.com/collections/frontpage/products/detroit-renegade- of-electronic-funk-black http://www.wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/techno-rebels http://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/future-perfect/Content?oid=2169476
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doh! haven't been reading the list.. too busy these days. I still have t-shirts from last year. If you want them, I'll have them available Sunday. EMAIL ME OFF LIST IF YOU WANT THEM. Going for $15. I have plenty of XLs, a few L's, some S's in Mens and just about ALL sizes for Women/Girls. PS I'm playing at Exodus Saturday night, will have them there, Titonton is playing from 11-1 and I'm 1-3, will spam y'all about the details of the party in a sec. Thanks! +odd -- On May 6, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Michael Elliot-Knight wrote: *sigh* (shakes head at line-up) won't be there again - but is anyone surprised about that? but I've got me a Sines designed 313 shirt so if you've got binoculars maybe you'll spot me in the garden getting down and dirty MEK Disclaimer The information in this email and any attachments may contain proprietary and confidential information that is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, retention or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. When addressed to our clients or vendors, any information contained in this e-mail or any attachments is subject to the terms and conditions in any governing contract. If you have received this e- mail in error, please immediately contact the sender and delete the e-mail.
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Grace Jones is awesome, but she is only one act of many The crowd has changed at Sonar too, much in the same way that Movement's seems to have changed. And Sonar is now more notable for the off-Sonar events than the main events themselves. Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 May 2009 21:09 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Denise Dalphond; kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:23, Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk wrote: It sounds like the festival has gone in the same direction Sonar has I don't know how to interpret as I have not paid attention to Sonar in several years. But... Grace Jones?! -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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I don't have access to the actual paperwork, but the articles I've found on the subject don't support your assertion. http://www.mail-archive.com/313@hyperreal.org/msg46121.html http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1444029/20010524/bukem_ltj.jhtml http://www.answers.com/topic/carl-craig On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com wrote: Only, Carol didn't fire carl. The city did.
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Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:16:26 +0100 Von: Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk Grace Jones is awesome, but she is only one act of many seconded. it's more or less the only reason I'm still thinking about going there on friday. And Sonar is now more notable for the off-Sonar events than the main events themselves. see you there. ;) -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a
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On 6 May 2009, at 19:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=56327624 ;) All I'll say is it's a good job Tom Cox isn't still on here, he'd have a fit. :) robin...
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There's been many a comment online at the absence of black people from that promo vid Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: 07 May 2009 09:56 To: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? On 6 May 2009, at 19:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=5 6327624 ;) All I'll say is it's a good job Tom Cox isn't still on here, he'd have a fit. :) robin... # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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I was going to make that comment but I held back. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk wrote: There's been many a comment online at the absence of black people from that promo vid Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: 07 May 2009 09:56 To: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? On 6 May 2009, at 19:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=5 6327624 ;) All I'll say is it's a good job Tom Cox isn't still on here, he'd have a fit. :) robin... # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 # -- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ? Rav -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: 07 May 2009 09:56 To: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? On 6 May 2009, at 19:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=563 27624 ;) All I'll say is it's a good job Tom Cox isn't still on here, he'd have a fit. :) robin... To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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You do get a glimpse of Minx, briefly. Not that she doesn't deserve recognition, but in terms of the video as a whole she's the person featured least likely to be a draw for the Moby fans. Paxahau are trying to run this as a going concern, and when your concern is how many bracelets you sell, you are going to try and feature people who might have some appeal beyond the rabid techno fans, like the people on this mailing list. And in case you haven't noticed, as a cohort, 313 listers are aging out of the festival-going age group. What percentage of people under 25 even know what an E-Mail list is? We are not the people for whom Paxahau is working so hard to make a festival. We could have a perfect DEMF for the 313 list, but there's only 442 of us (I just counted), and even if we could count on the general awesomeness of any festival WE curated drawing 20 times that many people, it wouldn't begin to pay for itself. Plus even if the lineup was generated by the 313 list, there'd still be all sorts of hating going on about it. If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too. Maybe it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic lineups for dirt cheap than ever before. And you can see Omar-S during the day at a rooftop party! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Mann, Ravinder r.m...@leedsmet.ac.uk wrote: Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ? Rav
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Pretty sure Omar S will be playing a four hour set so he can do his thing PROPER... ~David On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:44 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too. Maybe it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic lineups for dirt cheap than ever before. And you can see Omar-S during the day at a rooftop party!
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Well said Kent. I'm really excited about a lot of the afterparties. And even though there is a lot of silliness booked for the festival every year, there are a lot of great musicians that I can't wait to see perform. The fact that Al Ester and Stacey Hale are spinning, even though they are not producers, is pretty cool. They have been taking care of Detroit's electronic music scene for decades. Minx is playing the main stage - in the afternoon - but it's the main stage! All the Submerge people playing, I'll be excited to see them too. And the electrobounce/Starski Clutch business should be great as usual. Obviously that promo video is not meant for us or for most Detroiters. Paxahau is trying to keep this festival going, and even though they are not putting on a Detroit music festival and they don't do a good job in getting Detroit residents to attend, particularly young people, this festival is still happening here and I think that's a good thing. It would be so fabulous if it really was a festival that was about Detroit music and that drew a larger local and African American crowd. I would love to know if the festival planners actually have conversations about these issues when they plan the festival. I wonder if they debate whether or not to extend a discount or free entry to Detroit residents. I wonder if they really think Moby is the shit. I wonder if they really are big fans of Benny Benassi. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. Denise On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: You do get a glimpse of Minx, briefly. Not that she doesn't deserve recognition, but in terms of the video as a whole she's the person featured least likely to be a draw for the Moby fans. Paxahau are trying to run this as a going concern, and when your concern is how many bracelets you sell, you are going to try and feature people who might have some appeal beyond the rabid techno fans, like the people on this mailing list. And in case you haven't noticed, as a cohort, 313 listers are aging out of the festival-going age group. What percentage of people under 25 even know what an E-Mail list is? We are not the people for whom Paxahau is working so hard to make a festival. We could have a perfect DEMF for the 313 list, but there's only 442 of us (I just counted), and even if we could count on the general awesomeness of any festival WE curated drawing 20 times that many people, it wouldn't begin to pay for itself. Plus even if the lineup was generated by the 313 list, there'd still be all sorts of hating going on about it. If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too. Maybe it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic lineups for dirt cheap than ever before. And you can see Omar-S during the day at a rooftop party! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Mann, Ravinder r.m...@leedsmet.ac.uk wrote: Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ? Rav -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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It sounds like the festival has gone in the same direction Sonar has Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:ddalp...@umail.iu.edu] Sent: 07 May 2009 16:05 To: kent williams Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? Well said Kent. I'm really excited about a lot of the afterparties. And even though there is a lot of silliness booked for the festival every year, there are a lot of great musicians that I can't wait to see perform. The fact that Al Ester and Stacey Hale are spinning, even though they are not producers, is pretty cool. They have been taking care of Detroit's electronic music scene for decades. Minx is playing the main stage - in the afternoon - but it's the main stage! All the Submerge people playing, I'll be excited to see them too. And the electrobounce/Starski Clutch business should be great as usual. Obviously that promo video is not meant for us or for most Detroiters. Paxahau is trying to keep this festival going, and even though they are not putting on a Detroit music festival and they don't do a good job in getting Detroit residents to attend, particularly young people, this festival is still happening here and I think that's a good thing. It would be so fabulous if it really was a festival that was about Detroit music and that drew a larger local and African American crowd. I would love to know if the festival planners actually have conversations about these issues when they plan the festival. I wonder if they debate whether or not to extend a discount or free entry to Detroit residents. I wonder if they really think Moby is the shit. I wonder if they really are big fans of Benny Benassi. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. Denise On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: You do get a glimpse of Minx, briefly. Not that she doesn't deserve recognition, but in terms of the video as a whole she's the person featured least likely to be a draw for the Moby fans. Paxahau are trying to run this as a going concern, and when your concern is how many bracelets you sell, you are going to try and feature people who might have some appeal beyond the rabid techno fans, like the people on this mailing list. And in case you haven't noticed, as a cohort, 313 listers are aging out of the festival-going age group. What percentage of people under 25 even know what an E-Mail list is? We are not the people for whom Paxahau is working so hard to make a festival. We could have a perfect DEMF for the 313 list, but there's only 442 of us (I just counted), and even if we could count on the general awesomeness of any festival WE curated drawing 20 times that many people, it wouldn't begin to pay for itself. Plus even if the lineup was generated by the 313 list, there'd still be all sorts of hating going on about it. If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too. Maybe it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic lineups for dirt cheap than ever before. And you can see Omar-S during the day at a rooftop party! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Mann, Ravinder r.m...@leedsmet.ac.uk wrote: Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ? Rav -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu wrote: Minx is playing the main stage - in the afternoon - but it's the main stage! As she has done before. That was the year my friend Keleigh was in charge of the press passes, so I was able to get pics of Minx and others from right behind the decks... It's not a big secret that the daytime main stage slots are actually the booby prizes of the festival. It can be rainy, or hot, or both, and the crowd seems to not be much into it until the sun starts going down. I wonder if they really think Moby is the shit. I wonder if they really are big fans of Benny Benassi. I think when you promote shows for a living your standards are a little different. You want to make money -- not just greed at work, but also the 'pinball' part of the job -- if you win you get to keep playing. You want to work with people who are professional, and not a pain in the ass. Benny and Rich are successful professionals who are guaranteed draws. And whatever you might think about their music, or whether they should be headlining at DEMF, it's clear to me that they both were thrilled to be there. You might think they're soulless hacks, but they're not dumb and they know what Detroit means to dance music. In a sense, Moby and Benny need Detroit a hell of a lot more than Detroit needs them. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. While I might quibble with some of Paxahau's decisions artistically, I think it's grossly unfair to talk sh1t about their motivations. Paxahau would be just fine without the festival -- in fact financially, they might actually be better off not doing it. Paxahau does the festival because they want the festival to continue, because they believe in it's importance to Detroit, and because doing a festival of this scale successfully is a huge accomplishment.
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Me again... :) I don't think the Paxahau folks are a bunch of racists or don't care about Detroit. But that is often the general consensus by many critics. I am really interested in their motivations and personal histories with Detroit. I've interviewed one of the Paxahau DJs and we talked a bit about this. Trying to interview Jason Huvare, but that probably won't happen until after the festival. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. While I might quibble with some of Paxahau's decisions artistically, I think it's grossly unfair to talk sh1t about their motivations. Paxahau would be just fine without the festival -- in fact financially, they might actually be better off not doing it. Paxahau does the festival because they want the festival to continue, because they believe in it's importance to Detroit, and because doing a festival of this scale successfully is a huge accomplishment. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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I'd worry a lot more about that if I thought the stuff we prattle on about here had any real influence. And it seems to be a sort of any press is good press statement, which I don't really think is necessarily true. Reading about R*ch*e or M*by on 313 list wouldn't likely make anyone go out and buy their music. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:54 AM, m...@m50.net wrote: Like my man on the list said earlier, discussing Richie Hawtin's hype machine just builds the hype. Same goes for the folks in this video.
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On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:23, Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk wrote: It sounds like the festival has gone in the same direction Sonar has I don't know how to interpret as I have not paid attention to Sonar in several years. But... Grace Jones?! -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg
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I can't help but feel like you guys are directing these comments at me because I know you both read my blog. I just wanted to point out two things 1) I asked the question IS Paxahau racist?, I didn't claim that they were, necessarily. I am really really glad that the festival is still going on, and Paxahau is doing a great job. 2) The dramatic change in the percentage of black performers to white performers between 05 and 06 is a fact. Whether or not that was a conscious decision on Paxahau's part is clearly unknown. But the facts are the facts, the festival got a lot whiter when white people were given control of it. And I think that's a shame, and I don't see what's wrong with pointing it out. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu wrote: Me again... :) I don't think the Paxahau folks are a bunch of racists or don't care about Detroit. But that is often the general consensus by many critics. I am really interested in their motivations and personal histories with Detroit. I've interviewed one of the Paxahau DJs and we talked a bit about this. Trying to interview Jason Huvare, but that probably won't happen until after the festival. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. While I might quibble with some of Paxahau's decisions artistically, I think it's grossly unfair to talk sh1t about their motivations. Paxahau would be just fine without the festival -- in fact financially, they might actually be better off not doing it. Paxahau does the festival because they want the festival to continue, because they believe in it's importance to Detroit, and because doing a festival of this scale successfully is a huge accomplishment. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Ok, I don't think I have EVER written this much to this list. Frank, I think that the data that you put together and your analysis of it all is really important. Yes, you put the words Paxahau and racist together, but I have also heard a lot from local DJs and producers in interviews I have been doing over the past year and five months here. Some are critical, some are not, some are on the fence. So right now, that's where I'm coming from. And...Carol Marvin is white :) But I read ya loud and clear! Alright now, goodnight! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: I can't help but feel like you guys are directing these comments at me because I know you both read my blog. I just wanted to point out two things 1) I asked the question IS Paxahau racist?, I didn't claim that they were, necessarily. I am really really glad that the festival is still going on, and Paxahau is doing a great job. 2) The dramatic change in the percentage of black performers to white performers between 05 and 06 is a fact. Whether or not that was a conscious decision on Paxahau's part is clearly unknown. But the facts are the facts, the festival got a lot whiter when white people were given control of it. And I think that's a shame, and I don't see what's wrong with pointing it out. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu wrote: Me again... :) I don't think the Paxahau folks are a bunch of racists or don't care about Detroit. But that is often the general consensus by many critics. I am really interested in their motivations and personal histories with Detroit. I've interviewed one of the Paxahau DJs and we talked a bit about this. Trying to interview Jason Huvare, but that probably won't happen until after the festival. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. While I might quibble with some of Paxahau's decisions artistically, I think it's grossly unfair to talk sh1t about their motivations. Paxahau would be just fine without the festival -- in fact financially, they might actually be better off not doing it. Paxahau does the festival because they want the festival to continue, because they believe in it's importance to Detroit, and because doing a festival of this scale successfully is a huge accomplishment. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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Carole Marvin being white, actually, was neither here nor there. That's a whole long crazy story, which you've probably heard most of. It started out the first year she was content to have Carl be Artistic director, and she was content to leverage her experience with the Jazz Festival to help put something together on the Plaza. At some point, though, she kind of lost the plot, and fired Craig, I guess because she felt like the festival was 'hers.' Unfortunately she'd fired a massively popular figure locally and internationally, and came off looking pretty Lady Macbeth. She put on the festival in 2002 with a group of people who traditionally did not get along with the 'Detroit Inner Circle' so well, and ... well I'm sure you can read up on it. She still owns the trademark on DEMF as far as I know. I feel kind of sorry for her because she went from hero to villain in Detroit, and I don't know if she ever quite figured out why. You should try and talk to Alan Oldham some time. He lives in Chicago now. Whatever you hear in Detroit he's the contrarian. He's a great guy, but whatever someone else in Detroit tells you is white, he'll tell you it's black. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu wrote: And...Carol Marvin is white :) But I read ya loud and clear! Alright now, goodnight!
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I will also be attending, not that I am anyone special, but I got one of Todd's shirts last year and hope to see some of'em around the festival! Getting there earlyish Friday to hopefully hop by Oslo and anything else that's good... maybe the Old Miami, too? It'll be my 37th birthday. If there is any 313-ish meetup activity, I'd be interested in meeting others. :) cheers. Debating driving down to Austin for Dopplereffekt's gig at the Beauty Bar, then driving straight back to Dallas to catch my flight to Detroit. However, the Dopplereffekt thing might not be worth it: 5/21/2009 10:00 PM at Beauty Bar 617 E. 7th St., Austin, Texas 78701 Cost: Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty DOPPLEREFFEKT, Discobelle DJs, Markus with A K. 21+. Dopplereffekt’s first US live performance. Presented by: Scion House Party. Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty. RSVP strictly required. Early arrival is suggested as space is limited. Entry is NOT guaranteed. Line up subject to change. For more info. go to: http://www.scion.com/houseparty/ This to me implies it could be a cluster-F and people might not get in. any 313ers trying to make the Austin gig? Let me know, I might be up for it! On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramon Crespo ra...@ramoncrespo.com wrote: I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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pgh / technoir audio will be in the D yet again. I've yet to miss a festival, so I'm looking forward to this annual rite of passage. on the Music front: Just in time for the Stewart Walker event here in Pittsburgh last Friday, we got in the tests for TNA 009 from Arne Weinberg, and TNA 010 from Shawn Rudiman. I'll post full details, sound clips and all other pertinent information in near future. Not to start another flame war about vinyl vs. CD/mp3, but for my money there's nothing better then debuting a new slab of wax to a receptive crowd. I get chills each and every time. jw On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Lori Draper girly...@gmail.com wrote: I will also be attending, not that I am anyone special, but I got one of Todd's shirts last year and hope to see some of'em around the festival! Getting there earlyish Friday to hopefully hop by Oslo and anything else that's good... maybe the Old Miami, too? It'll be my 37th birthday. If there is any 313-ish meetup activity, I'd be interested in meeting others. :) cheers. Debating driving down to Austin for Dopplereffekt's gig at the Beauty Bar, then driving straight back to Dallas to catch my flight to Detroit. However, the Dopplereffekt thing might not be worth it: 5/21/2009 10:00 PM at Beauty Bar 617 E. 7th St., Austin, Texas 78701 Cost: Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty DOPPLEREFFEKT, Discobelle DJs, Markus with A K. 21+. Dopplereffekt’s first US live performance. Presented by: Scion House Party. Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty. RSVP strictly required. Early arrival is suggested as space is limited. Entry is NOT guaranteed. Line up subject to change. For more info. go to: http://www.scion.com/houseparty/ This to me implies it could be a cluster-F and people might not get in. any 313ers trying to make the Austin gig? Let me know, I might be up for it! On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramon Crespo ra...@ramoncrespo.com wrote: I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
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I saw Doppler last year, not really a live gig! A backing cd with some occasional playing of the keyboard. I wasn't at all impressed. Although the diehard fans loved it. I wouldn't be in a hurry to see them again. g -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 May 2009 16:51 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? I will also be attending, not that I am anyone special, but I got one of Todd's shirts last year and hope to see some of'em around the festival! Getting there earlyish Friday to hopefully hop by Oslo and anything else that's good... maybe the Old Miami, too? It'll be my 37th birthday. If there is any 313-ish meetup activity, I'd be interested in meeting others. :) cheers. Debating driving down to Austin for Dopplereffekt's gig at the Beauty Bar, then driving straight back to Dallas to catch my flight to Detroit. However, the Dopplereffekt thing might not be worth it: 5/21/2009 10:00 PM at Beauty Bar 617 E. 7th St., Austin, Texas 78701 Cost: Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty DOPPLEREFFEKT, Discobelle DJs, Markus with A K. 21+. Dopplereffekt's first US live performance. Presented by: Scion House Party. Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty. RSVP strictly required. Early arrival is suggested as space is limited. Entry is NOT guaranteed. Line up subject to change. For more info. go to: http://www.scion.com/houseparty/ This to me implies it could be a cluster-F and people might not get in. any 313ers trying to make the Austin gig? Let me know, I might be up for it! On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramon Crespo ra...@ramoncrespo.com wrote: I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=56327624 ;) Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Williams, Graham [mailto:gwilli...@eds.com] Sent: 06 May 2009 17:12 To: Lori Draper; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? I saw Doppler last year, not really a live gig! A backing cd with some occasional playing of the keyboard. I wasn't at all impressed. Although the diehard fans loved it. I wouldn't be in a hurry to see them again. g -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 May 2009 16:51 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? I will also be attending, not that I am anyone special, but I got one of Todd's shirts last year and hope to see some of'em around the festival! Getting there earlyish Friday to hopefully hop by Oslo and anything else that's good... maybe the Old Miami, too? It'll be my 37th birthday. If there is any 313-ish meetup activity, I'd be interested in meeting others. :) cheers. Debating driving down to Austin for Dopplereffekt's gig at the Beauty Bar, then driving straight back to Dallas to catch my flight to Detroit. However, the Dopplereffekt thing might not be worth it: 5/21/2009 10:00 PM at Beauty Bar 617 E. 7th St., Austin, Texas 78701 Cost: Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty DOPPLEREFFEKT, Discobelle DJs, Markus with A K. 21+. Dopplereffekt's first US live performance. Presented by: Scion House Party. Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty. RSVP strictly required. Early arrival is suggested as space is limited. Entry is NOT guaranteed. Line up subject to change. For more info. go to: http://www.scion.com/houseparty/ This to me implies it could be a cluster-F and people might not get in. any 313ers trying to make the Austin gig? Let me know, I might be up for it! On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramon Crespo ra...@ramoncrespo.com wrote: I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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*sigh* (shakes head at line-up) won't be there again - but is anyone surprised about that? but I've got me a Sines designed 313 shirt so if you've got binoculars maybe you'll spot me in the garden getting down and dirty MEK Disclaimer The information in this email and any attachments may contain proprietary and confidential information that is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, retention or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. When addressed to our clients or vendors, any information contained in this e-mail or any attachments is subject to the terms and conditions in any governing contract. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately contact the sender and delete the e-mail.
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I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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I will be there, and am also looking for person or persons who want to share a room at the Shorecrest. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: is really nobody going to the festival? i saw no responses when i first posted my roll call request last thursday. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: you bet your hiney i'll be there. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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I'm going... haven't been since 01... really looking forward to it... Holly C. MacDonald-Korth hko...@jwkorth.com direct: 786 693 8652 -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? is really nobody going to the festival? i saw no responses when i first posted my roll call request last thursday. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: you bet your hiney i'll be there. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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I will certainly be there! And I will, at some point, be wearing Todd Sines lovely 313 shirt from last year. And lots of great afterparties already: DTM is having a free party on Saturday night I think - free! That's nice and refreshing amidst some of the more expensive dealies. And Bang Tech 12 is having a free afterparty on Friday night. Also, Blank artists party - which I am very excited about. Osborne, Tim Sweeney, Trent Abbe, Drew Pompa Josh Dahlberg, on Sat Here, just read through the loveliness: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?action=demf Denise -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art
(313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts?
is really nobody going to the festival? i saw no responses when i first posted my roll call request last thursday. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: you bet your hiney i'll be there. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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I am not. It really hurts me to not go too. My reasons: combination of each/all of my core group of 5 friends who we had shared hotels/flights from every US region/etc are saying no. One is going to Spain (for some shwechno festival - lame), one is in law school, and the rest feel like they've seen enough for this year (whatever that means). For me it's like a pilgrimage, and maybe I will book a last minute flight just to see 6 hours of the festival, but I somewhat doubt it. Reason 2, I am doing a professional exam a week following the Festival. That's my story for now. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: is really nobody going to the festival? i saw no responses when i first posted my roll call request last thursday. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: you bet your hiney i'll be there. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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you bet your hiney i'll be there. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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[JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]] And is Dan actually back in the US? Last time I sent him something he was in Connecticut (!)...I didn't ask what was up though. He has a place in CT and has been splitting his time between there and Berlin for a while now. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : new york city : +1.917.442.9450 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
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And is Dan actually back in the US? Last time I sent him something he was in Connecticut (!)...I didn't ask what was up though. Thanks for the news Jwan On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:01 AM, jwan allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Dan informed us the last time he played in Pittsburgh, his house imprint Elevate has been relaunched. Baaz has two other releases on the Sthlmaudio Recordings. I've liked what I've heard thus far and i'm looking forward to having more material from this imprint. Nice to see another quality label back in the fold. Baaz -Few Days (12) Elevate jw -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
(313) While you were arguing about t-shirts
As Dan informed us the last time he played in Pittsburgh, his house imprint Elevate has been relaunched. Baaz has two other releases on the Sthlmaudio Recordings. I've liked what I've heard thus far and i'm looking forward to having more material from this imprint. Nice to see another quality label back in the fold. Baaz -Few Days (12) Elevate jw -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
(313) t shirts redux / meetups
Yo so any ideas or progress on the t shirts? who do I give money to? Any way to meet up with 313 listers? Are there any obvious identifiers other than said t-shirts, or maybe an aluminum foil hat? -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
Ooh, I've been watching this thread, thinking OK, it'd be nice to get one of these at some point when it's sorted what's happening. But not really thinking I'd chime in as I'm not going DEMF (and am busy listening to clips of the new Nubian Mindz). But I'm liking these a lot. In fact I was about to say I like the 2 sided map one so much I want to order one now even if other people don't and it costs me £££ to have a one off printed. Then I realise Manchester isn't on there. Shame on you Todd Sines! (goes off whistling Guy Called Gerald and 808 State ;-). From: Todd Sines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 February 2008 09:06 so, here's a few ideas I got going last night.. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/ all are PDFs - directory browsing allowed so you can [control / right click to] save if you must. the start - simple, effective, following the rules. the IM bubble. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts01_bubble.pdf next up - where it comes from.. and where it goes to. [who wants to be listed?] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_1sided.pdf third - an alt color combo [yes, I am gunning for 2 colors, Kent], and a wrap-around screen http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapF.pdf http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapB.pdf why not- 3d text in simulating the Ren Cen [technically, 1 color] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313D.pdf the reality of it all - the beautiful decay of a glossy, yet decrepit city known as Detroit. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313photo.pdf Not one is by any means to be considered finshed. . More like sketches for future discussion. The nice thing about a 2 color shirt is that someone might actually buy them from you. :o then we can all git rich, biaaatch! Like Dave Chappelle. Speaking of Dave Chappelle, I have a contact in Dayton, OH who has the ability to do mutli-color screened T's - they did a pretty cool job with making t-shirts + hats for the Release show back in December. And they sold for less than $11 / shirt.
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seconded. that maps 1sided shirt is great! c* [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: this one is fan-flippin-tastic next up - where it comes from.. and where it goes to. [who wants to be listed?] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_1sided.pdf the wrap version is good as well MEK
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
Manchester is on it. The two sided (wrap) t-shirt has it on the front - right next to Sheffield and Grand Rapids (ha ha ha ha ha ha!) However, Minneapolis is not and we've got Prince. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/01/2008 07:03:49 AM: Ooh, I've been watching this thread, thinking OK, it'd be nice to get one of these at some point when it's sorted what's happening. But not really thinking I'd chime in as I'm not going DEMF (and am busy listening to clips of the new Nubian Mindz). But I'm liking these a lot. In fact I was about to say I like the 2 sided map one so much I want to order one now even if other people don't and it costs me £££ to have a one off printed. Then I realise Manchester isn't on there. Shame on you Todd Sines! (goes off whistling Guy Called Gerald and 808 State ;-). From: Todd Sines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 February 2008 09:06 so, here's a few ideas I got going last night.. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/ all are PDFs - directory browsing allowed so you can [control / right click to] save if you must. the start - simple, effective, following the rules. the IM bubble. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts01_bubble.pdf next up - where it comes from.. and where it goes to. [who wants to be listed?] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_1sided.pdf third - an alt color combo [yes, I am gunning for 2 colors, Kent], and a wrap-around screen http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapF.pdf http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapB.pdf why not- 3d text in simulating the Ren Cen [technically, 1 color] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313D.pdf the reality of it all - the beautiful decay of a glossy, yet decrepit city known as Detroit. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313photo.pdf Not one is by any means to be considered finshed. . More like sketches for future discussion. The nice thing about a 2 color shirt is that someone might actually buy them from you. :o then we can all git rich, biaaatch! Like Dave Chappelle. Speaking of Dave Chappelle, I have a contact in Dayton, OH who has the ability to do mutli-color screened T's - they did a pretty cool job with making t-shirts + hats for the Release show back in December. And they sold for less than $11 / shirt.
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
I'd def. buy it + accurate too. On 26 Feb 2008, at 21:15, Martin Dust wrote: Shall I just make one with: We are Cnuts, We are 313 ;) m
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas - first stab
greetings from Genova, Italy. so, here's a few ideas I got going.. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/ all are PDFs - directory browsing allowed so you can [control / right click to] save if you must. the start - simple, effective, following the rules. the IM bubble. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts01_bubble.pdf next up - where it comes from.. and where it goes to. [who wants to be listed?] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_1sided.pdf third - an alt color combo [yes, I am gunning for 2 colors, Kent], and a wrap-around screen http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapF.pdf http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapB.pdf why not- 3d text in simulating the Ren Cen [technically, 1 color] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313D.pdf the reality of it all - the beautiful decay of a glossy, yet decrepit city known as Detroit. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313photo.pdf Not one is by any means to be considered finshed. . More like sketches for future discussion. The nice thing about a 2 color shirt is that someone might actually buy them from you. :o then we can all git rich, biaaatch! Like Dave Chappelle. Speaking of Dave Chappelle, I have a contact in Dayton, OH who has the ability to do mutli-color screened T's - they did a pretty cool job with making t-shirts + hats for the Release show back in December. And they sold for less than $11 / shirt. anyway, let's hear it. +odd On Feb 28, 2008, at 7:24 PM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: I was placing the list addy square across the front chest, which should put the other text block under your left tit/teat/pec. I like the font, and probably won't change anything much unless something really makes stupidly obvious sense to me. The real reason I did this one, was because I saw too much thought going into the rest. So consequentially, I won't think much further than I've gone with it (plus I like it). If you have a change, feel free to hook it up though *cough* $tinki*cough*. It'd be interesting to see what comes back. I still wanna see Todd's though. He's really gd. k -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:03 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal Cc: Michael Kuszynski; darnistle; 313 Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas best so far!!! except i am not fond of the 3d font and think the whole design needs to be condensed a little. and where are you placing it on the tshirt? across the front or in the upper left hand corner? nobody needs to be reading my gut. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
trying again.. greetings from Genova, Italy. so, here's a few ideas I got going last night.. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/ all are PDFs - directory browsing allowed so you can [control / right click to] save if you must. the start - simple, effective, following the rules. the IM bubble. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts01_bubble.pdf next up - where it comes from.. and where it goes to. [who wants to be listed?] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_1sided.pdf third - an alt color combo [yes, I am gunning for 2 colors, Kent], and a wrap-around screen http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapF.pdf http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapB.pdf why not- 3d text in simulating the Ren Cen [technically, 1 color] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313D.pdf the reality of it all - the beautiful decay of a glossy, yet decrepit city known as Detroit. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313photo.pdf Not one is by any means to be considered finshed. . More like sketches for future discussion. The nice thing about a 2 color shirt is that someone might actually buy them from you. :o then we can all git rich, biaaatch! Like Dave Chappelle. Speaking of Dave Chappelle, I have a contact in Dayton, OH who has the ability to do mutli-color screened T's - they did a pretty cool job with making t-shirts + hats for the Release show back in December. And they sold for less than $11 / shirt. anyway, let's hear it. +odd On Feb 28, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: It may look a little bitted out at first (the hosting company's compression). It's a rather large jpg. It looks a lot cleaner when you view it at full size, though your browser may make you scroll. Just click the image and it should resize for ya. Lemme know if this is what it is. K mwnb -Original Message- From: ben thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:02 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas i like it!!! could do with cleaning up a bit, but its got good sentiment On 28 Feb 2008, at 17:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
- Original Message - From: Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:05 AM Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas greetings from Genova, Italy. here hoping they found your bags
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
i just want a soft shirt that does not have a generic fit. all that is fantastic. i like both the directional pointer and the building view. On 2/29/08, Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trying again.. greetings from Genova, Italy. so, here's a few ideas I got going last night.. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/ all are PDFs - directory browsing allowed so you can [control / right click to] save if you must. the start - simple, effective, following the rules. the IM bubble. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts01_bubble.pdf next up - where it comes from.. and where it goes to. [who wants to be listed?] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_1sided.pdf third - an alt color combo [yes, I am gunning for 2 colors, Kent], and a wrap-around screen http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapF.pdf http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapB.pdf why not- 3d text in simulating the Ren Cen [technically, 1 color] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313D.pdf the reality of it all - the beautiful decay of a glossy, yet decrepit city known as Detroit. http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts03_rencen313photo.pdf Not one is by any means to be considered finshed. . More like sketches for future discussion. The nice thing about a 2 color shirt is that someone might actually buy them from you. :o then we can all git rich, biaaatch! Like Dave Chappelle. Speaking of Dave Chappelle, I have a contact in Dayton, OH who has the ability to do mutli-color screened T's - they did a pretty cool job with making t-shirts + hats for the Release show back in December. And they sold for less than $11 / shirt. anyway, let's hear it. +odd On Feb 28, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: It may look a little bitted out at first (the hosting company's compression). It's a rather large jpg. It looks a lot cleaner when you view it at full size, though your browser may make you scroll. Just click the image and it should resize for ya. Lemme know if this is what it is. K mwnb -Original Message- From: ben thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:02 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas i like it!!! could do with cleaning up a bit, but its got good sentiment On 28 Feb 2008, at 17:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
this one is fan-flippin-tastic next up - where it comes from.. and where it goes to. [who wants to be listed?] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_1sided.pdf the wrap version is good as well MEK
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
the one you posted. with the 313 that looks like an ae On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is this so called 313 tower looking design? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea the 313 tower looking design isn't bad. it does seem to 'pixelate' or approximate the text, like old ascii warez nfo files. Not that that's bad. It just looks a little aliased or something. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
that's the motown records logo. not towers. not an ae. what the. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the one you posted. with the 313 that looks like an ae On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is this so called 313 tower looking design? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea the 313 tower looking design isn't bad. it does seem to 'pixelate' or approximate the text, like old ascii warez nfo files. Not that that's bad. It just looks a little aliased or something. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
(313) my tsh1t design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
On 28 Feb 2008, at 13:29, Frank Glazer wrote: that's the motown records logo. not towers. not an ae. what the. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the one you posted. with the 313 that looks like an ae I think he means this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dustscience/2290556165/ m
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
I can make myself see it as an M, but I'm more inclined to see it as AE I still think it has a lot of potential. that's the motown records logo. not towers. not an ae. what the. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the one you posted. with the 313 that looks like an ae On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is this so called 313 tower looking design? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea the 313 tower looking design isn't bad. it does seem to 'pixelate' or approximate the text, like old ascii warez nfo files. Not that that's bad. It just looks a little aliased or something. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
moot point because a more vocal majority prefers superstar black dog's design anyway. ;) On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:55 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can make myself see it as an M, but I'm more inclined to see it as AE I still think it has a lot of potential. that's the motown records logo. not towers. not an ae. what the. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the one you posted. with the 313 that looks like an ae On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is this so called 313 tower looking design? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea the 313 tower looking design isn't bad. it does seem to 'pixelate' or approximate the text, like old ascii warez nfo files. Not that that's bad. It just looks a little aliased or something. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
I think my t-shirt design transcends musical genres, race, colour and makes a statement that is extremely relevant to us that will bring us all together as one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pwacher/2298593274/ Peace, Patrick ;) On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: moot point because a more vocal majority prefers superstar black dog's design anyway. ;) On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:55 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can make myself see it as an M, but I'm more inclined to see it as AE I still think it has a lot of potential. that's the motown records logo. not towers. not an ae. what the. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the one you posted. with the 313 that looks like an ae On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is this so called 313 tower looking design? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea the 313 tower looking design isn't bad. it does seem to 'pixelate' or approximate the text, like old ascii warez nfo files. Not that that's bad. It just looks a little aliased or something. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- -- Southern Outpost Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin http://www.southernoutpost.com --
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
i like this one alot! tom On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
nice! where can I place my order? MEK Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/28/2008 11:38:11 AM: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
my dog hates it ;-) MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/28/2008 10:31:49 AM: I think my t-shirt design transcends musical genres, race, colour and makes a statement that is extremely relevant to us that will bring us all together as one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pwacher/2298593274/ Peace, Patrick ;) On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: moot point because a more vocal majority prefers superstar black dog's design anyway. ;) On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:55 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] ebola.com wrote: I can make myself see it as an M, but I'm more inclined to see it as AE I still think it has a lot of potential. that's the motown records logo. not towers. not an ae. what the. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the one you posted. with the 313 that looks like an ae On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is this so called 313 tower looking design? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea the 313 tower looking design isn't bad. it does seem to 'pixelate' or approximate the text, like old ascii warez nfo files. Not that that's bad. It just looks a little aliased or something. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr. com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or acomparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- -- Southern Outpost Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin http://www.southernoutpost.com --
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
Yeah I like that. robin... On 28 Feb 2008, at 17:38, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
i like it!!! could do with cleaning up a bit, but its got good sentiment On 28 Feb 2008, at 17:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
best so far!!! except i am not fond of the 3d font and think the whole design needs to be condensed a little. and where are you placing it on the tshirt? across the front or in the upper left hand corner? nobody needs to be reading my gut. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
take my money. On 2/28/08, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: best so far!!! except i am not fond of the 3d font and think the whole design needs to be condensed a little. and where are you placing it on the tshirt? across the front or in the upper left hand corner? nobody needs to be reading my gut. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
I was placing the list addy square across the front chest, which should put the other text block under your left tit/teat/pec. I like the font, and probably won't change anything much unless something really makes stupidly obvious sense to me. The real reason I did this one, was because I saw too much thought going into the rest. So consequentially, I won't think much further than I've gone with it (plus I like it). If you have a change, feel free to hook it up though *cough*$tinki*cough*. It'd be interesting to see what comes back. I still wanna see Todd's though. He's really gd. k -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:03 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal Cc: Michael Kuszynski; darnistle; 313 Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas best so far!!! except i am not fond of the 3d font and think the whole design needs to be condensed a little. and where are you placing it on the tshirt? across the front or in the upper left hand corner? nobody needs to be reading my gut. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
It may look a little bitted out at first (the hosting company's compression). It's a rather large jpg. It looks a lot cleaner when you view it at full size, though your browser may make you scroll. Just click the image and it should resize for ya. Lemme know if this is what it is. K mwnb -Original Message- From: ben thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:02 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas i like it!!! could do with cleaning up a bit, but its got good sentiment On 28 Feb 2008, at 17:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
That's a great shirt. I'll have one of these please. -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:38 AM To: Michael Kuszynski; Frank Glazer Cc: darnistle; 313 Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
i could live without the x though around the address. i know its a common notation but its confusing as a public vision. On 2/29/08, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a great shirt. I'll have one of these please. -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:38 AM To: Michael Kuszynski; Frank Glazer Cc: darnistle; 313 Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
(313) T Shirts: Let a hundred flowers bloom
I am going to print up Martin's design. I'll ask my printer friend about US Made/Fair Trade shirts as opposed to whatever he normally uses. My question is this: will people pay twice as much for US Made/Fair Trade? Please ask off-list -- we've been doing too much Shirt-talking and not enough techno talking. This doesn't mean this is the 'official design' -- it just means it's the design I like, and the one I'll pay to have printed. Anyone else who wants to can print whatever they want, or put the design on Cafe Press, or whatever.
Re: (313) T Shirts: Let a hundred flowers bloom
I think you should wait to see what Todd does Kent. m kent williams wrote: I am going to print up Martin's design. I'll ask my printer friend about US Made/Fair Trade shirts as opposed to whatever he normally uses. My question is this: will people pay twice as much for US Made/Fair Trade? Please ask off-list -- we've been doing too much Shirt-talking and not enough techno talking. This doesn't mean this is the 'official design' -- it just means it's the design I like, and the one I'll pay to have printed. Anyone else who wants to can print whatever they want, or put the design on Cafe Press, or whatever.
RE: (313) T Shirts: Let a hundred flowers bloom
Haha. Awesome. I'd still wait until todd chimes in. he said Friday was the day, so c'mon. have a heart. k -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) T Shirts: Let a hundred flowers bloom I am going to print up Martin's design. I'll ask my printer friend about US Made/Fair Trade shirts as opposed to whatever he normally uses. My question is this: will people pay twice as much for US Made/Fair Trade? Please ask off-list -- we've been doing too much Shirt-talking and not enough techno talking. This doesn't mean this is the 'official design' -- it just means it's the design I like, and the one I'll pay to have printed. Anyone else who wants to can print whatever they want, or put the design on Cafe Press, or whatever.
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
Yup. You're right. It looks a lot better without the x's. a lot better. Thanks. I like the fact that a lot of cool designs have surfaced and I'd like to say before this thread gets officially deaded, that I think this type of thing is great and should be continued (no matter the medium). Gives me a broader view of the listmembers and what else they're about. Thanks for playing. K mwnb -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:30 PM To: pauley; Stoddard, Kamal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas i could live without the x though around the address. i know its a common notation but its confusing as a public vision. On 2/29/08, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a great shirt. I'll have one of these please. -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:38 AM To: Michael Kuszynski; Frank Glazer Cc: darnistle; 313 Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) T Shirts: Let a hundred flowers bloom
which one is martin. i am writing on my portable. is anyone doing anything with the one with we know detroit hand script. On 2/28/08, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to print up Martin's design. I'll ask my printer friend about US Made/Fair Trade shirts as opposed to whatever he normally uses. My question is this: will people pay twice as much for US Made/Fair Trade? Please ask off-list -- we've been doing too much Shirt-talking and not enough techno talking. This doesn't mean this is the 'official design' -- it just means it's the design I like, and the one I'll pay to have printed. Anyone else who wants to can print whatever they want, or put the design on Cafe Press, or whatever. -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
Nicely done, but doesn't speak to me. The b-boy esthetic certainly is one of the underpinnings of techno, but I miss the futuristic aspect. Typography always carries a lot of layers of meanings :) Or maybe the 313@hyperreal.org in a futuristic style and then the tag ... how Detroit is *that* ?! fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stoddard, Kamal Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:38:11 -0500 Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
HMPF!! Do you always concede to the more vocal majority? Your design on the front of the shirt and Raul's design on the back would rock!! I could work a graphic sandwich like that all around town, even in clogs! I'm giddy at the thought of it! sigh But alas, the majority has won out again. Guess I'll go back to lurking... Frank Glazer wrote: moot point because a more vocal majority prefers superstar black dog's design anyway. ;) On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:55 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can make myself see it as an M, but I'm more inclined to see it as AE I still think it has a lot of potential. that's the motown records logo. not towers. not an ae. what the. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the one you posted. with the 313 that looks like an ae On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is this so called 313 tower looking design? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea the 313 tower looking design isn't bad. it does seem to 'pixelate' or approximate the text, like old ascii warez nfo files. Not that that's bad. It just looks a little aliased or something. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
I am designer / director, and no offense to Martin, but I think the re-appropriation of logos went out with the Packard Plant... and the days of rave.. working on something. but i'm on tour and have 3 other irons in the fire, so it might not get done til Friday. +odd -- On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:36 PM, Michael Kuszynski wrote: just voicing my opinion. i am not a graphic designer. i hope i am not offending anyone. On 2/26/08, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: american apparel = garbage On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to be more explicit how does everyone feel about a single line of text showing the email address of a nice american apparel brand shirt that lasts and is comfortable. thats what i actually want. On 2/26/08, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the email address tastefully and minimally placed in the center or offcenter. i dont need much else. maybe a line or an image of the detroit overhead tunnels or something representing global reach. On 2/26/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah that's a good point, be good to use it to give more exposure to this list specifically... but what would signify this list? tom -- Todd Sines, director + SCALE : http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 195 Chrystie St., #602A, NY, NY 10002 /// connecting the space between + within.
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
On 27 Feb 2008, at 08:27, Todd Sines wrote: I am designer / director, and no offense to Martin, None taken :) but I think the re-appropriation of logos went out with the Packard Plant... and the days of rave.. Don't take away the rave Todd!!! working on something. but i'm on tour and have 3 other irons in the fire, so it might not get done til Friday. More is better I figure. m
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I think the re-appropriation of logos went out with the Packard Plant... and the days of rave.. people might say the same thing about email lists and detroit techno. of course they would also be wrong. tom
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one.
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
Yea the 313 tower looking design isn't bad. it does seem to 'pixelate' or approximate the text, like old ascii warez nfo files. Not that that's bad. It just looks a little aliased or something. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) my tshirt design (was Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas)
where is this so called 313 tower looking design? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea the 313 tower looking design isn't bad. it does seem to 'pixelate' or approximate the text, like old ascii warez nfo files. Not that that's bad. It just looks a little aliased or something. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enh, it seems i've been outvoted. i might do a similar shirt on cafe press and just remove the list address, though. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize I'm a tad late responding to this thread, but I really, really like Frank's design a lot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2286376973/sizes/o/ I would actually buy a shirt if it had a design along these lines on it! I like the blocky aesthetic of it. I especially like that I had to look at if for a while to make out the 313 lettering. That said, Frank, I think the design could stand some tweaking because it appears, to me at least, that shapes spell out AE, which I guess could make it double as an Autechre t-shirt (which is also fine with me). I think the shapes need to appear to spell something more Detroit-techno related, or the numbers themselves need to look a little more evocative of numbers. Like I said, if you make shirts with this or a comparable design and you keep the price reasonable, I'll buy one. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Good stuff, here's V3 http://flickr.com/photos/dustscience/2293704836/ On 26 Feb 2008, at 02:50, kent williams wrote: Haha Angie. I love it. Maybe a little belligerent for the 313 list. Wait what am I saying? On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom designed something based on last years festival's t-shirt... http://tlinder.com/images/wtftechno.jpg He's been using as an avatar for the last few months, but he can change it to the 313list if you guys want. hehe On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Michael.Elliot- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adapt it to the Gordy label instead maybe? http://www.randysrodeo.com/images/features/motown/records-gordy.jpg MEK Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/25/2008 01:56:32 PM:
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Perfect IMHO. EXCEPT ;-) -- the trademark circule next to the logo. Take it out or change it to Creative Commons ;-). On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good stuff, here's V3 http://flickr.com/photos/dustscience/2293704836/ On 26 Feb 2008, at 02:50, kent williams wrote: Haha Angie. I love it. Maybe a little belligerent for the 313 list. Wait what am I saying? On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom designed something based on last years festival's t-shirt... http://tlinder.com/images/wtftechno.jpg He's been using as an avatar for the last few months, but he can change it to the 313list if you guys want. hehe On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Michael.Elliot- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adapt it to the Gordy label instead maybe? http://www.randysrodeo.com/images/features/motown/records-gordy.jpg MEK Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/25/2008 01:56:32 PM:
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
Don't mention Mo-town on Dluv ;) m On 25 Feb 2008, at 19:48, Frank Glazer wrote: I take it nobody likes my Motown logo design?
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
Looks nice! But I would like it more if the centre is totally blue I think (just black/blue, not black/blue/black/blue). I also always liked the Kenny Larkin - catatonic Sleeve http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=7018 bit in the same way your T-shirt-3 is like However, I will not be at the DEMF, so my chances of ever getting a 313 T-shirt is virtually zero :( Remco -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2008 10:51 Aan: kent williams CC: list 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? Good stuff, here's V3 http://flickr.com/photos/dustscience/2293704836/ On 26 Feb 2008, at 02:50, kent williams wrote: Haha Angie. I love it. Maybe a little belligerent for the 313 list. Wait what am I saying? On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom designed something based on last years festival's t-shirt... http://tlinder.com/images/wtftechno.jpg He's been using as an avatar for the last few months, but he can change it to the 313list if you guys want. hehe On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Michael.Elliot- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adapt it to the Gordy label instead maybe? http://www.randysrodeo.com/images/features/motown/records-gordy.jpg MEK Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/25/2008 01:56:32 PM:
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
On 26 Feb 2008, at 14:06, Remco Doorewaard wrote: Looks nice! But I would like it more if the centre is totally blue I think (just black/blue, not black/blue/black/blue). Not sure what you mean? I also always liked the Kenny Larkin - catatonic Sleeve http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=7018 Not a fan of negative spaced Helvetica and I don't what The Designers Republic on the phone :) It's been done to death up here and has been around since the 60s bit in the same way your T-shirt-3 is like However, I will not be at the DEMF, so my chances of ever getting a 313 T-shirt is virtually zero :( Don't see why you couldn't just buy one regardless of the design people selected, you're on the list so you should be able to make a purchase I reckon. m Remco -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2008 10:51 Aan: kent williams CC: list 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? Good stuff, here's V3 http://flickr.com/photos/dustscience/2293704836/
(313) T Shirts
First off I think Martin's design is winning, as I've not seen another besides Frank's. Sorry Frank! Second, I will get some printed and bring to the festival and sell them to whomever at cost. I dont have a problem mailing some out to people who won't be there. Let me find out the actual cost before you E-mail me. Third, I think Martin is willing to print a bunch for 313'ers in the EU who won't be in Detroit. Sound like a plan?
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
Looks nice! But I would like it more if the centre is totally blue I think (just black/blue, not black/blue/black/blue). Not sure what you mean? Well, the 313@hyperreal.org is in a black area, I think I like it better if this area is also blue! But that's just my opinion. But maybe it´s more ordinary that way I also always liked the Kenny Larkin - catatonic Sleeve http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=7018 Not a fan of negative spaced Helvetica and I don't what The Designers Republic on the phone :) It's been done to death up here and has been around since the 60s I´m not a graphic designer (or that old :)) so wouldn´t know about that... bit in the same way your T-shirt-3 is like However, I will not be at the DEMF, so my chances of ever getting a 313 T-shirt is virtually zero :( Don't see why you couldn't just buy one regardless of the design people selected, you're on the list so you should be able to make a purchase I reckon. m I will just follow this thread and maybe I can buy one somewhere/time! Thanks, Remco Remco -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2008 10:51 Aan: kent williams CC: list 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? Good stuff, here's V3 http://flickr.com/photos/dustscience/2293704836/
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On 26 Feb 2008, at 14:28, kent williams wrote: First off I think Martin's design is winning, as I've not seen another besides Frank's. Sorry Frank! What about the DMT design from Angie? Second, I will get some printed and bring to the festival and sell them to whomever at cost. I dont have a problem mailing some out to people who won't be there. Let me find out the actual cost before you E-mail me. Third, I think Martin is willing to print a bunch for 313'ers in the EU who won't be in Detroit. I can get some printed over here and sort it for pure cost if there's enough people wanting them, happy to help. m
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Yeah Tom's design is cool, but I can't wear anything that says 'fvck' to work, and it wasn't 313 list-specific. If DTM printed some of those, it would sell at the festival ;-) And DTM and DMT are very different things. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Feb 2008, at 14:28, kent williams wrote: First off I think Martin's design is winning, as I've not seen another besides Frank's. Sorry Frank! What about the DMT design from Angie?
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And DTM and DMT are very different things. Opps :) m
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
hate to criticize work that i did not do but the design is a little too referential to the number and not signifying enough of the list. i would rather have the whole address be some sort of a focus. just my opinion. thanks for getting the work in to see. not trying to be a bad spirit. On 2/26/08, Remco Doorewaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks nice! But I would like it more if the centre is totally blue I think (just black/blue, not black/blue/black/blue). Not sure what you mean? Well, the 313@hyperreal.org is in a black area, I think I like it better if this area is also blue! But that's just my opinion. But maybe it´s more ordinary that way I also always liked the Kenny Larkin - catatonic Sleeve http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=7018 Not a fan of negative spaced Helvetica and I don't what The Designers Republic on the phone :) It's been done to death up here and has been around since the 60s I´m not a graphic designer (or that old :)) so wouldn´t know about that... bit in the same way your T-shirt-3 is like However, I will not be at the DEMF, so my chances of ever getting a 313 T-shirt is virtually zero :( Don't see why you couldn't just buy one regardless of the design people selected, you're on the list so you should be able to make a purchase I reckon. m I will just follow this thread and maybe I can buy one somewhere/time! Thanks, Remco Remco -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2008 10:51 Aan: kent williams CC: list 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? Good stuff, here's V3 http://flickr.com/photos/dustscience/2293704836/ -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
Yeah thats a good point, be good to use it to give more exposure to this list specifically... -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:06 AM To: Remco Doorewaard; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? hate to criticize work that i did not do but the design is a little too referential to the number and not signifying enough of the list. i would rather have the whole address be some sort of a focus. just my opinion. thanks for getting the work in to see. not trying to be a bad spirit. On 2/26/08, Remco Doorewaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks nice! But I would like it more if the centre is totally blue I think (just black/blue, not black/blue/black/blue). Not sure what you mean? Well, the 313@hyperreal.org is in a black area, I think I like it better if this area is also blue! But that's just my opinion. But maybe it´s more ordinary that way I also always liked the Kenny Larkin - catatonic Sleeve http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=7018 Not a fan of negative spaced Helvetica and I don't what The Designers Republic on the phone :) It's been done to death up here and has been around since the 60s I´m not a graphic designer (or that old :)) so wouldn´t know about that... bit in the same way your T-shirt-3 is like However, I will not be at the DEMF, so my chances of ever getting a 313 T-shirt is virtually zero :( Don't see why you couldn't just buy one regardless of the design people selected, you're on the list so you should be able to make a purchase I reckon. m I will just follow this thread and maybe I can buy one somewhere/time! Thanks, Remco Remco -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2008 10:51 Aan: kent williams CC: list 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? Good stuff, here's V3 http://flickr.com/photos/dustscience/2293704836/ -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1298 - Release Date: 2/25/2008 8:45 PM
Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah that's a good point, be good to use it to give more exposure to this list specifically... but what would signify this list? tom
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the email address tastefully and minimally placed in the center or offcenter. i dont need much else. maybe a line or an image of the detroit overhead tunnels or something representing global reach. On 2/26/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah that's a good point, be good to use it to give more exposure to this list specifically... but what would signify this list? tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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to be more explicit how does everyone feel about a single line of text showing the email address of a nice american apparel brand shirt that lasts and is comfortable. thats what i actually want. On 2/26/08, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the email address tastefully and minimally placed in the center or offcenter. i dont need much else. maybe a line or an image of the detroit overhead tunnels or something representing global reach. On 2/26/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah that's a good point, be good to use it to give more exposure to this list specifically... but what would signify this list? tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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no offense, but either step up and design it or vote for one of the ones that people have come up with. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the email address tastefully and minimally placed in the center or offcenter. i dont need much else. maybe a line or an image of the detroit overhead tunnels or something representing global reach. On 2/26/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah that's a good point, be good to use it to give more exposure to this list specifically... but what would signify this list? tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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american apparel = garbage On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to be more explicit how does everyone feel about a single line of text showing the email address of a nice american apparel brand shirt that lasts and is comfortable. thats what i actually want. On 2/26/08, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the email address tastefully and minimally placed in the center or offcenter. i dont need much else. maybe a line or an image of the detroit overhead tunnels or something representing global reach. On 2/26/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah that's a good point, be good to use it to give more exposure to this list specifically... but what would signify this list? tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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just voicing my opinion. i am not a graphic designer. i hope i am not offending anyone. On 2/26/08, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: american apparel = garbage On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to be more explicit how does everyone feel about a single line of text showing the email address of a nice american apparel brand shirt that lasts and is comfortable. thats what i actually want. On 2/26/08, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the email address tastefully and minimally placed in the center or offcenter. i dont need much else. maybe a line or an image of the detroit overhead tunnels or something representing global reach. On 2/26/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah that's a good point, be good to use it to give more exposure to this list specifically... but what would signify this list? tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY