Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
I perceive the matter of undertakings as being afraid of anything new. Bear in mind, when typewriters were invented, women were required to furnish a medical certificate that they are fit enough to operate typewriter. Now, is not it ridiculous? A few years ago, a girl from chandrapur found a place in Guinness book for being the fastest typist at the age of 7 and typing 170WPM. So, if apart from general undertakings if anything else is required by way of disability, then it must be established by rules. And rules also can be modified to be in sync with relevance of disability for a particular transactions. For instance, maharashtra government has not identified any post of lecturer in any subject but music for blind, does anyone with minimum rational capacity see any logic in this? So, let us be logical, and evaluate the implications of any disability and its consequent relevance in formulating the rules for any matter. So, practice of lowly officials framing their arbitrary rules needs to be severely dealt with any possible manner. Like Doctor Lahane an eye specialists feels that totally blind are not capable to discharge many of jobs identified in central list, and so has debarred them from undertaking them in maharashtra by committees and issuing so many GRs. I know cases are being fought by our honorable members for it, on the ground there is hardly any change. So, I sincerely feel we must adopt all and every means to have sound laws and rules in place and then curb anybody except legislature from tempering with them. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Viraj Kafle Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:42 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The discussion has not rolled back by any means. We are not talking about general undertaking that every customer has to give, but unnecessary impositions made on people on the basis of their disabilities. Is asking NOC from the parents of a capable visually challenged a general undertaking? Of course, one can always choose between brands. But when brands indulge in whatever they want in order to maximise profit or to corner people of certain sections of society, only talking about choice would not be politically correct. I am quite happy with SBI, but does that mean that I should keep mum and remain complacent when someone, not me, is denied or is illogically imposed by the PNB, or any other bank for that matter? When a precedence gets established, particularly a wrong one, it does not take much time to spread and be widely accepted. The same applies to the precedence of denial. We can always boycott one for the other, but at the same time it is our right as well as obligation to speak against and thoroughly expose those involving in cornering certain sections of society in one way or the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes, now the entire discussion is rolled back. the matter is whether a customer should give undertaking or not. if 2-3 line undertaking solve your problem, then what is the matter. practice of undertaking is all for general, not for blind customers. we take undertaking in minor account, some times in pension account, if a pensioner is to old, unable to execute his transactions and can not step up to the branch. blind person has to face many problem in his daily living, banking is one of them. do we get barrier free environment in our city? we have PWD act for it. not only blind, each and every type of disabled person must have full right to get all services. whether it is banking, telecom, railways, airlines, electricity. law and rules are the guidelines. the person sitting on the chair, how he interpreted this law. my suggestion is don't be a brand loyal, be a system loyal. if you want to buy a soft drink, there are to many shops, being an employee of PNB, if my bank denies any services to me, i won't hesitate to avail that particular service from another bank. suppose, if your salary account exist with ABC bank but their loan rates are higher then XYZ bank, then you will bank, then you will fopefully won't avail the loan facility from that bank. - Original Message - From: Mukesh Sharma mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking Give me one such case. When issuing ATM card, the bank in their pure
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
although some of our friends seem to suggest an VC persons net getting the banking facilities is because of their ego preventing them giving a simple undertaking to the bank, the rality is far from that. as Shree Rajesh Asadani, the very practice of selective undertakings from the VC persons itself has to be according to rules, not according to the fantacies of some ignorant officer. moreover, in most cases, even when the VC person is willing to give an undertaking taking up responsibilities arising out of the possible misuse of the particular facility due to his or her disability, bank officials have refused to give the particular facility. On 5/26/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: I perceive the matter of undertakings as being afraid of anything new. Bear in mind, when typewriters were invented, women were required to furnish a medical certificate that they are fit enough to operate typewriter. Now, is not it ridiculous? A few years ago, a girl from chandrapur found a place in Guinness book for being the fastest typist at the age of 7 and typing 170WPM. So, if apart from general undertakings if anything else is required by way of disability, then it must be established by rules. And rules also can be modified to be in sync with relevance of disability for a particular transactions. For instance, maharashtra government has not identified any post of lecturer in any subject but music for blind, does anyone with minimum rational capacity see any logic in this? So, let us be logical, and evaluate the implications of any disability and its consequent relevance in formulating the rules for any matter. So, practice of lowly officials framing their arbitrary rules needs to be severely dealt with any possible manner. Like Doctor Lahane an eye specialists feels that totally blind are not capable to discharge many of jobs identified in central list, and so has debarred them from undertaking them in maharashtra by committees and issuing so many GRs. I know cases are being fought by our honorable members for it, on the ground there is hardly any change. So, I sincerely feel we must adopt all and every means to have sound laws and rules in place and then curb anybody except legislature from tempering with them. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Viraj Kafle Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:42 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The discussion has not rolled back by any means. We are not talking about general undertaking that every customer has to give, but unnecessary impositions made on people on the basis of their disabilities. Is asking NOC from the parents of a capable visually challenged a general undertaking? Of course, one can always choose between brands. But when brands indulge in whatever they want in order to maximise profit or to corner people of certain sections of society, only talking about choice would not be politically correct. I am quite happy with SBI, but does that mean that I should keep mum and remain complacent when someone, not me, is denied or is illogically imposed by the PNB, or any other bank for that matter? When a precedence gets established, particularly a wrong one, it does not take much time to spread and be widely accepted. The same applies to the precedence of denial. We can always boycott one for the other, but at the same time it is our right as well as obligation to speak against and thoroughly expose those involving in cornering certain sections of society in one way or the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes, now the entire discussion is rolled back. the matter is whether a customer should give undertaking or not. if 2-3 line undertaking solve your problem, then what is the matter. practice of undertaking is all for general, not for blind customers. we take undertaking in minor account, some times in pension account, if a pensioner is to old, unable to execute his transactions and can not step up to the branch. blind person has to face many problem in his daily living, banking is one of them. do we get barrier free environment in our city? we have PWD act for it. not only blind, each and every type of disabled person must have full right to get all services. whether it is banking, telecom, railways, airlines, electricity. law and rules are the
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
In case of Rajkumar Sahu, staff/customer in Bank of India, availed an overdraft facility. He enjoyed the facility completely. When the account became out of order, he blamed that being a blind person, he could not read/understand the documents/statements and the manager should have verbally told him the status of the account from time-to-time. He made a complaint to the higher authorities and the authorities viewed it seriously and fixed the responsibility of the Manager. After great difficulties, I could convince the complainant to get the complaint back and the problems was resolved. Here, I would like to clarify that I belong to PNB. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking no sir, I am not agree with you at all. here, nobody is favoring to the bankers but because many of us have been working in the different banks for the last several years so we are fully aware with the technical problems may accurse. may be many of us are not aware of them at all. its easy to criticize anyone here without knowing the facts/technical issues really the bankers are facing in daily routine work but I request to all of you, please be patience because bankers are also the part of society and their objections are also genuine but more or less, these facilities are quite dangerous for the blind persons. this is also important that if any blind person ask for all these facilities, the undertaking must be given by the accountholder, not by the parrents. this is quite illogical at all because only accountholder has a right to take any decision about his own account but this undertaking must be taken in presence of his nominee of the same account. Thanks With Regards B. R. Nautial Mobile: +919915073368 - Original Message - From: Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking Why is it that the banks are so firm in denying us our due rights? In fact, it is our right not only to have accounts and subsequent facilities (check book-ATM card-netbanking etc.), but also to have proper and smooth access to these facilities. The authorities, ranging from the local to the national, have appeared more or less unwilling to provide us accessibility measures. Denial, thus, has become a easy means of escape for the authorities. Bank managers can join our struggle, in fact, by coming out of this escapism and advocating, with all their capacities, our due rights. It is quite unfortunate that instead of doing so, our friends here claiming to represent the banker's perspective are advocating things that are quite retrogressive in nature. The solution is to facilitate access instead of denying us our rights. The bank managers can either be partisans to our rights or remain neutral and follow the guidelines and the law of the land. Denial, in any case, must not have any place in the entire debate. - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking going by some of the argument from a bankers perspective, the best option seems to be depriving the visually challenged from availing any banking facility, including an account itself. the entire argument of bank being concerned about the possible risk for the visually challenged, the best way of helping the person from their point of view is to tell him or her not avail any banking facility. in when you work your salary goes to your bank account or is processed through a bank. since you are blind you might be cheated at some point. so it is better you don't work at all so that you don't have to deal with a bank. sorry, but that logic is absolute nonsense. On 5/25/10, Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in wrote: If I were to follow Bhavani's rationale, my bank manager is more worried about my money's safety than I am. So concerned he is that he would never let me take the money in the easiest way I can. Wonderful. First of, pl get this clear. I can't see, but I am capable of deciding for myself whether the person I am going with to the ATM is trustworthy enough or not. Ok, even if I were to lose some money, it would allrt me of not getting myself in that situation again. That is how we all learn. The problem with bankers not letting us use ATM is that they are posing a bigger problem to me than the problem I already face. For instance, I have to stand in the queue to withdraw the money, where I have to fill in the withdrawal form -for which I have to rely on a stranger- and then collect the cash and count the currency in front of many strangers then expect to get back to my office hoping not to be mugged by miscreants who may be following me
Re: [AI] Career counselling workshop for 2010-11 graduation batch
Dear Friends NAB India, Centre for Blind Women shall be conducting Career Counseling Workshops today and tomorrow (26th 27th May 2010) for the blind students who have passed their 12th class this year and want to join the first year of graduation from Delhi University for the session 2010-2011. The timings for the workshop on both the days shall be 4.15 PM to 6.15 PM at NAB Centre for Blind Women, L- 25, Hauz Khas Enclave, New Delhi 110016. Any blind student (boy or girl) aspiring to take admission in the first year of graduation, can walk in for the workshop. One can discuss their doubts about choosing the particular subjects, availability of options regarding subjects and other matters of confusion, scope of a particular subject in the near future, manner of admissions in DU etc. For more details, you can contact us at (011) 41656266, 26852589. SHALINI KHANNA HONY. DIRECTOR Shalini Khanna Hony. Director NAB, India -Centre for Blind Women Consultant, GENPACT Sexual Harrassment Committee L-25, Hauz Khas Enclave New Delhi Ph. no. 011- 41656266, 9811772499 --- On Wed, 5/26/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 11:21 AM I perceive the matter of undertakings as being afraid of anything new. Bear in mind, when typewriters were invented, women were required to furnish a medical certificate that they are fit enough to operate typewriter. Now, is not it ridiculous? A few years ago, a girl from chandrapur found a place in Guinness book for being the fastest typist at the age of 7 and typing 170WPM. So, if apart from general undertakings if anything else is required by way of disability, then it must be established by rules. And rules also can be modified to be in sync with relevance of disability for a particular transactions. For instance, maharashtra government has not identified any post of lecturer in any subject but music for blind, does anyone with minimum rational capacity see any logic in this? So, let us be logical, and evaluate the implications of any disability and its consequent relevance in formulating the rules for any matter. So, practice of lowly officials framing their arbitrary rules needs to be severely dealt with any possible manner. Like Doctor Lahane an eye specialists feels that totally blind are not capable to discharge many of jobs identified in central list, and so has debarred them from undertaking them in maharashtra by committees and issuing so many GRs. I know cases are being fought by our honorable members for it, on the ground there is hardly any change. So, I sincerely feel we must adopt all and every means to have sound laws and rules in place and then curb anybody except legislature from tempering with them. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Viraj Kafle Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:42 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The discussion has not rolled back by any means. We are not talking about general undertaking that every customer has to give, but unnecessary impositions made on people on the basis of their disabilities. Is asking NOC from the parents of a capable visually challenged a general undertaking? Of course, one can always choose between brands. But when brands indulge in whatever they want in order to maximise profit or to corner people of certain sections of society, only talking about choice would not be politically correct. I am quite happy with SBI, but does that mean that I should keep mum and remain complacent when someone, not me, is denied or is illogically imposed by the PNB, or any other bank for that matter? When a precedence gets established, particularly a wrong one, it does not take much time to spread and be widely accepted. The same applies to the precedence of denial. We can always boycott one for the other, but at the same time it is our right as well as obligation to speak against and thoroughly expose those involving in cornering certain sections of society in one way or the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes, now the entire discussion is rolled back. the matter is whether a customer should give undertaking or not. if 2-3 line undertaking solve your problem, then what is the matter.
Re: [AI] Visually impaired person opens panchayat's eyes
This is a wonderful account and very encouraging. Shalini Khanna Hony. Director NAB, India -Centre for Blind Women Consultant, GENPACT Sexual Harrassment Committee L-25, Hauz Khas Enclave New Delhi Ph. no. 011- 41656266, 9811772499 --- On Sat, 7/11/09, prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com wrote: From: prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com Subject: [AI] Visually impaired person opens panchayat's eyes To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:17 PM Visually impaired person opens panchayat's eyes - Ahmedabad - Cities - The Times of India Rangpar (Rajkot district): He cannot see but was determined to open the eyes of administration. More than his poverty, 26-year-old Ratna Al, it was authorities turning blind eye to development works in his village that pained him. A native of Rangpar, a dusty hamlet of 750 people in Wankaner taluka, Ratna used Right to Information (RTI). Ratna has put the village on development track. A neat two-km road has replaced the stony path connecting it to highway. The thorny gando bawal shrubs that dotted the roadside are now being cleared regularly and Rangpar is getting the facelift. But, getting all this done was not at all easy for Ratna, whose family lives below poverty line. Besides all the paper work, he even had to suffer humiliation by officials whenever he raised questions about development. The documents I got using RTI showed that many works registered as completed in the papers were actually never taken up. In 2008, I used RTI to know how many schemes had panchayat implemented and how much money was spent on each work, said Ratna. Though I did not get accurate information, it helped them realize that their inefficiency would be exposed. Now, everything is falling in place, thanks to RTI. If RTI Act, was not there, we would never have known the irregularities in local administration'' said Ratna, a farmer studied till class X. I can't see but I can sense the relief among villagers, he said His work is truly praiseworthy. People support him but not openly as no one wants to confront local authorities. But, Ratna stands firm and results are there, says villager Bhurabhai Barot. visit my new blog for whole new and refreshing experience. rush hurry, on http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com regards, prateek agarwal. skype: prateek_agarwal32 website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com best solution for all your softwares/websites development needs. you tell, i'll build. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] [From Nimita Sharma] Problem in Gmail
Dear list members, I have not configured my account in Outlook Express yet. So, I usually use Internet Explorer to compose and read my mails. But, as I start writing in the Message Body Frame of G mail, after the very few words I suddenly land up in the options like Add CC Field and Add B C C field and the original message that I am typing gets lost somewhere. All I find is an Internet Explorer dialogue saying: your message has been modified. Abandon changes? Okay and Cancel buttons please tell me how can I remedy it? Thanks in advance. Nimita Sharma To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
I don't understand why the argument is heading to risks, fraud and whether banks should or should not issue cards or cheques. The ground rule is that RBI has set guidelines and Banks have to give these facilities. Whoever fears that they can not afford to risk this, then please don't take these facilities but for god sake don't raise such immature arguments here. regards SC Vashishth 9811125521 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
This is a stray incident. Anything can be misused, including blindness. So, what? Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:23 PM To: B. R. Nautial; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking In case of Rajkumar Sahu, staff/customer in Bank of India, availed an overdraft facility. He enjoyed the facility completely. When the account became out of order, he blamed that being a blind person, he could not read/understand the documents/statements and the manager should have verbally told him the status of the account from time-to-time. He made a complaint to the higher authorities and the authorities viewed it seriously and fixed the responsibility of the Manager. After great difficulties, I could convince the complainant to get the complaint back and the problems was resolved. Here, I would like to clarify that I belong to PNB. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking no sir, I am not agree with you at all. here, nobody is favoring to the bankers but because many of us have been working in the different banks for the last several years so we are fully aware with the technical problems may accurse. may be many of us are not aware of them at all. its easy to criticize anyone here without knowing the facts/technical issues really the bankers are facing in daily routine work but I request to all of you, please be patience because bankers are also the part of society and their objections are also genuine but more or less, these facilities are quite dangerous for the blind persons. this is also important that if any blind person ask for all these facilities, the undertaking must be given by the accountholder, not by the parrents. this is quite illogical at all because only accountholder has a right to take any decision about his own account but this undertaking must be taken in presence of his nominee of the same account. Thanks With Regards B. R. Nautial Mobile: +919915073368 - Original Message - From: Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking Why is it that the banks are so firm in denying us our due rights? In fact, it is our right not only to have accounts and subsequent facilities (check book-ATM card-netbanking etc.), but also to have proper and smooth access to these facilities. The authorities, ranging from the local to the national, have appeared more or less unwilling to provide us accessibility measures. Denial, thus, has become a easy means of escape for the authorities. Bank managers can join our struggle, in fact, by coming out of this escapism and advocating, with all their capacities, our due rights. It is quite unfortunate that instead of doing so, our friends here claiming to represent the banker's perspective are advocating things that are quite retrogressive in nature. The solution is to facilitate access instead of denying us our rights. The bank managers can either be partisans to our rights or remain neutral and follow the guidelines and the law of the land. Denial, in any case, must not have any place in the entire debate. - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking going by some of the argument from a bankers perspective, the best option seems to be depriving the visually challenged from availing any banking facility, including an account itself. the entire argument of bank being concerned about the possible risk for the visually challenged, the best way of helping the person from their point of view is to tell him or her not avail any banking facility. in when you work your salary goes to your bank account or is processed through a bank. since you are blind you might be cheated at some point. so it is better you don't work at all so that you don't have to deal with a bank. sorry, but that logic is absolute nonsense. On 5/25/10, Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in wrote: If I were to follow Bhavani's rationale, my bank manager is more worried about my money's safety than I am. So concerned he is that he would never let me take the money in the easiest way I can. Wonderful. First of, pl get this clear. I can't see, but I am capable of deciding for myself whether the
[AI] Problem with NetBook Keyboard
Hello, I am using Dell Inspiron Mini1012 with Windows XP Home SP 3. For a few days, some of the keys on the keyboard have stopped responding. The keys include the FN key, the Application key, the keys 5, 6,- and \ and function keys F2, F5 and F9. They are working fine with the USB external keyboard. The keys are being pressed normally, so I don't see the chance of dust particles. Have also tried reinstalling the keyboard driver and restoring the system to earlier date on which they were working properly, but haven't got any success. Would be obliged if any solution is suggested. Thanking in anticipation, Viraj. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Query on ipad and ipod
Not yet I think. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:59 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Query on ipad and ipod Is I-pad available in India? They made it available here in the US market just a few weeks ago. Vetri. On 25/05/2010, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote: The iPod Touch, iPhone 3GS and the iPad all have Voice Over screen reader as well as the Zoom screen magnification capabilities. you control VoiceOver with a set of touch gestures which are not really difficult to learn. Regards, Kiran On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Prashant Naik pran...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Please provide me some details/inputs on accessibility of IPOD and IPAD from Apple. Mac is accessible as it has voice over screen reader but what about ipods and ipads which have touch screen operation. Any particular models of these which are accessible, etc. Best regards, Prashant Naik To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] RBI order on ATM card.
Thanks Rajesh for your honesty. At least you have not favoured the reputation of your institution over the violation of rights of the VI. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:20 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] RBI order on ATM card. Yes, Subramani, I have already stated that in this country rules of regulators have practically symbolic value. Though legally bound to follow them, banks hardly bother to do so except maintaining CRR etc. In inspection after inspection, our inspecting officers provide horrible reports of neglect in vital areas. Such rules pertaining to marginalized sections like VI are hardly looked into even by our inspecting officers. I know I am being treacherous to my institution and nobody would admit such things on record, but such is truth from a cynic's point of view. You can observe it for yourself, by reading all speeches about financial inclusion. Though RBI has issued circulars a couple of years back, hardly any high official mentions about disability while dwelling on financial inclusion. They do not look at inclusion of disabled yet as mainstream financial inclusion. It is perhaps, charity oriented yet. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:45 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] RBI order on ATM card. It is absolutely preposterous when bankrs turn to us and say that they don't know anything about the RBI regulations. My question is: if I drive without a registration plate or fail to produce my license while driving and then turn to someone and say that I don't know such a rule exist, will anyone accept this? Then why should we always --ALWAYS-- take no for an answer when it comes to a mindless bank manager rejecting RBI circular, which, ironically, has come from the authority that regulates banking in this country? Is it then given that banks are used to violating rules like these regularly? Members of banking fraternity, kindly explain. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rohiet A. Patil Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] RBI order on ATM card. Please ask your branch manager to refer to the point number 10 of RBI master cercular for customer service. All the guidelines are there. Further, you can visit http://www.prateek agarwal.webs.com for the copy of the cercular from RBI and guidelines from IBA. Thanks and regards, Rohiet - Original Message - From: AMEEN ameen.etta...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:58 PM Subject: [AI] RBI order on ATM card. Dear friends, today I asked my bank for ATM card. But they rejected to do so. My bank is: Union bank of India-Kumarapuram branch in Ernakulam DT. Kerala. They said, they don't know anything about the RBI order regarding the same. So if anyone send me the copy of the order to my personal ID, it would be a great help. Thanks in advance, Ameen. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any
[AI] Crystal report viewer
Friends Is crystal report viewer accessible with jaws 10, with or without scripts? and can we read .rpt files reliably with it? Any experience is welcome. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
There is one thing to play the devils advocate, but it is quite another to imply that all blind persons are incapable of taking care of their finances. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:03 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking Mr. Bhavani Please substantiate your arguments with written documents. I am afraid now we are going overboard. As if ATM frauds never happen with sighted customers. And, please inform me of any case where due to such fraud, any banker has lost the job. Even if a fraud happens to a blind customer due to his dependence on another while operating, we can always cite RBI circular in court. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:09 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes! this is a matter, if that anybody did a fraud with that blind person, cheated him, then. my four or five colleagues will loose their job, if that blind person stand before the court. who issued ATM card? the employee who entered his card details on issue register, the employee entered his details on CBS system. who will come to convince the court that entire risk goes to that blind person? - Original Message - From: AMEEN ameen.etta...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking screen reading software has nothing to do with issuing ATM cards to VI persons. for, he can operate it with the help of anybody whom he chooses. that is non of the business of the bank. if there is any risk involved in it, the person will bear it. then why should raise all lame excuses and arguments? are you willing to comply with the rules and regulations stipulated by RBI? Ameen.- Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com; access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking you are absolutely right sir, i found that only blind customer's part is discussed here. we should also consider banker's part. secondly, again i am to say that bank has full right to ask his customer, why he should require a check book. only for prestige or he has any use of it. if he or she avail check book facility, he has to maintain minimum balance in his account to continue this facility. some times we also make our blindness complicated. if any one show the law and rules, then being a banker, i am giving my ATM card and pin number to that blind customer, I will also take him to the ATM machine, but, i will not assist him to read out the menus and commands on ATM. will he independently withdraw his money? if so, could anybody voluntarily come to have a practical session? condition is a person should be bona fied blind. RBI says that 33% of ATMs should be accessible to blind persons, and it is stated on the same circular, which all our friends have mentioned here. now as a branch manager, it does not come in my power to install such ATMs. only my head office can do that. now in writing, i can reply that customer: I accept your application for ATM card. since, as per the RBI circular our branch does not have ATM accessible to blind person, and also in our city there is no ATM installed, which is accessible to the blind person, hence, your application is pending for consideration. as soon as. an accessible ATM will be installed, you will be facilitated ATM card. our hon'ble blind customer unable to operate ATM which exist in our branch, independently, further, this matter has been referred to our authorities. thanking you, - Original Message - From: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking no sir, its not a question of ego here. in my opinion, both the parties are almost right on their places. generally, all these facilities are quite risky for the blind, that's why, most of the bank manager of various banks are not even against the blind customers but don't want to give all these facilities to the them only because they know, in case of any fraud with the blind customer, they may be questioned before the court and may be punished for their negligence. In various banks, where the branch manager is flexible and
Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 49, Issue 172
what is this.. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:55 PM, accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwrote: Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to accessindia@accessindia.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest... Today's Topics: 1. Problem with NetBook Keyboard (Viraj Kafle) 2. Re: Query on ipad and ipod (Subramani L) 3. Re: RBI order on ATM card. (Subramani L) 4. Crystal report viewer (Asudani, Rajesh) 5. Re: Difficulties in Banking (Subramani L) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:01:30 +0530 From: Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Problem with NetBook Keyboard Message-ID: 9b8e71c743334ab6889f7f60797d6...@ddwbt1m1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, I am using Dell Inspiron Mini1012 with Windows XP Home SP 3. For a few days, some of the keys on the keyboard have stopped responding. The keys include the FN key, the Application key, the keys 5, 6,- and \ and function keys F2, F5 and F9. They are working fine with the USB external keyboard. The keys are being pressed normally, so I don't see the chance of dust particles. Have also tried reinstalling the keyboard driver and restoring the system to earlier date on which they were working properly, but haven't got any success. Would be obliged if any solution is suggested. Thanking in anticipation, Viraj. -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:34:47 +0530 From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Query on ipad and ipod Message-ID: fda23f70e778f94293c28128b654e11c033b4...@dhtpmlmail.deccanherald.co.in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not yet I think. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:59 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Query on ipad and ipod Is I-pad available in India? They made it available here in the US market just a few weeks ago. Vetri. On 25/05/2010, Kiran Kaja kirankaj...@gmail.com wrote: The iPod Touch, iPhone 3GS and the iPad all have Voice Over screen reader as well as the Zoom screen magnification capabilities. you control VoiceOver with a set of touch gestures which are not really difficult to learn. Regards, Kiran On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Prashant Naik pran...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Please provide me some details/inputs on accessibility of IPOD and IPAD from Apple. Mac is accessible as it has voice over screen reader but what about ipods and ipads which have touch screen operation. Any particular models of these which are accessible, etc. Best regards, Prashant Naik To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:43:37 +0530 From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] RBI order on ATM card. Message-ID: fda23f70e778f94293c28128b654e11c033b4...@dhtpmlmail.deccanherald.co.in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Rajesh for your honesty. At least you have not favoured the reputation of your institution over the violation of rights of the VI. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:20 AM To:
[AI] Query regarding scribe’s eligibility in I GNOU B A Programme exam
Dear members, I wish to know the eligibility criteria for availing scribe's facility in IGNOU's Bachelor Degree Programme’s first year exam. As the concerned authority is denying permitting twelfth passed scribe presenting school leaving certificate. According to them, the scribe should not have passed twelfth standard. At maximum he/she should have given the exam of twelfth without declared result. Thanking in advance -- Himanshu Sahu Reach: 09051055000 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Query regarding scribe's eligibility in IGNOU B A Programme exam
Dear Himanshu Eligibility of scribe for any exam is: the sweet will of supervisor. So, please be an obedient student and accept whatever drips from the honorable mouth of exam in charge, or else you may be asked: Why do you need the scribe? or Why after all do you have to appear for any exam? Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu Sahu Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Query regarding scribe's eligibility in IGNOU B A Programme exam Dear members, I wish to know the eligibility criteria for availing scribe's facility in IGNOU's Bachelor Degree Programme's first year exam. As the concerned authority is denying permitting twelfth passed scribe presenting school leaving certificate. According to them, the scribe should not have passed twelfth standard. At maximum he/she should have given the exam of twelfth without declared result. Thanking in advance -- Himanshu Sahu Reach: 09051055000 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] regarding webcast on proof reading
Folks: Appologies for sending this message late. I have had a few problems in installing the broadcasting software, despite very clear instructions from Prateek. I am thinking of having this either on Saturday May 29 9.30 pm (Indian Time) or Sunday May 30 morning at 10.00 am. Requesting you all to revert with your preferred timings off the list. I shall go by the majority preference. I shall send three documents chosen for different purposes of proof reading, editing and descriptive/stylistic s. I can mail them to those who are joining the webcast since these documents will be of no use to others. I don't know if there is a limit on the number of persons who can join, pl ask Prateek about this. I shall send the documents on first come first serve basis. Pl write to me about this in private if you need further clarification. I appreciate any mail on this and your feedbacks after the presentation. Subramani To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
Dear Kamal: Let us not argue for the sake of it. I am sure you know that there is a website that has a list of defaulters who have defaulted over one crore and above. The shame is, banks have lent to these people more on the basis of their social standing than their actual credit worthiness. Just because a few of them have defaulted, do you stop lending to people? When you refer to some blind person who knowingly defaulted the bank, banks cannot conclude all v I's asking for our rights are either ignoramus fools or conniving thieves who do not deserve the right to access a service available to all. For that matter, what about the credit card fraudsters who change names and addresses and cheat on Banks? Do you stop giving credit cards on this basis? On the contrary I get numerous calls from tele oprtors to take one credit card or the other. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:46 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The same was to be happend in case of Rajkumar Sahu in Bank of India regarding his overdraft account. After my interference it could resolved with great difficulty. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes! this is a matter, if that anybody did a fraud with that blind person, cheated him, then. my four or five colleagues will loose their job, if that blind person stand before the court. who issued ATM card? the employee who entered his card details on issue register, the employee entered his details on CBS system. who will come to convince the court that entire risk goes to that blind person? - Original Message - From: AMEEN ameen.etta...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking screen reading software has nothing to do with issuing ATM cards to VI persons. for, he can operate it with the help of anybody whom he chooses. that is non of the business of the bank. if there is any risk involved in it, the person will bear it. then why should raise all lame excuses and arguments? are you willing to comply with the rules and regulations stipulated by RBI? Ameen.- Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com; access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking you are absolutely right sir, i found that only blind customer's part is discussed here. we should also consider banker's part. secondly, again i am to say that bank has full right to ask his customer, why he should require a check book. only for prestige or he has any use of it. if he or she avail check book facility, he has to maintain minimum balance in his account to continue this facility. some times we also make our blindness complicated. if any one show the law and rules, then being a banker, i am giving my ATM card and pin number to that blind customer, I will also take him to the ATM machine, but, i will not assist him to read out the menus and commands on ATM. will he independently withdraw his money? if so, could anybody voluntarily come to have a practical session? condition is a person should be bona fied blind. RBI says that 33% of ATMs should be accessible to blind persons, and it is stated on the same circular, which all our friends have mentioned here. now as a branch manager, it does not come in my power to install such ATMs. only my head office can do that. now in writing, i can reply that customer: I accept your application for ATM card. since, as per the RBI circular our branch does not have ATM accessible to blind person, and also in our city there is no ATM installed, which is accessible to the blind person, hence, your application is pending for consideration. as soon as. an accessible ATM will be installed, you will be facilitated ATM card. our hon'ble blind customer unable to operate ATM which exist in our branch, independently, further, this matter has been referred to our authorities. thanking you, - Original Message - From: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking no sir, its not a question of ego here. in my opinion, both the parties are almost right on their places. generally, all these facilities are quite risky for the blind, that's why, most of the bank manager of various banks are not even against the blind customers but don't want to give all these facilities to the them only because they know, in
Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI.
But when a banker denies a service which the customer is entitled to, he won't give it in writing . Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:38 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. yes sir, this is the right approach. this is a right of a customer, if any one deny services to him he should know the cause of denial in writing. it will also help him to lodge a complaint or any matter of litigation. i have one real example here. one of my blind friend went to PNB branch and approached for consumer loan. after 30 days he called me that bank people are not giving loan. i enquired the matter and found that still he did not fill an application form for consumer loan. in practice, he just go to the branch and had a discuss about the consumer loan facility with bank employees. in this case particular, would he has right to defame the banker? - Original Message - From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. Folks, I think, we should learn to be rude. May be we should do this. Approach the bank and if denied for any facility in spite having all necessary pre-requesites like any other customer, ask the BM to give the same in writing. Either they have to give us all the facilities or should reject our application by writing. In my view, we don't even need to show any circulars. Is the other customers showing any circular to avail any facility? If not, why should we do when we will be same kind of transactions? It's banks responsibility to know the rules that exist. Cheers, Srinivasu On 5/25/10, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: sure awareness about us is very importent, but BM must follow the rules. no discussion about that. At 11:01 AM 5/25/2010, you wrote: Of course, we have to fight for our rights. I have made efforts many times with various banks for facility of ATM card, net banking, vehicle loan, etc. to the blind people. We cannot change the attitude of such bank managers or administrators by only rules and regulations. We have to make publicity at large to let such managers/administrators aware of our capabilities, problems and our existence too Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. Thank god that he deals with the bank manager who understands that being blind doesn't impair his intelligence. Listen Kamal... I am not here to malign the public image of PNB or accuse the bank of wrong doing. If you ar fair and understand the fact that they, like so many offenders of the RBI regulations in the past, have failed to take into account the rights of a visually challenged person and so they are answerable. Their offence cannot be left unquestioned because they have reputation. It looks like more branch managers of that particular bank has caused problems to the visually challenged. So, we are discussing about them Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:16 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. Devendra Nikose is availing all the facilities from PNB. He is a blind customer of PNB. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. My wife is not living with me, but I need to pay my bills. So... If I were to do the right thing, I must first look out for a joint account holder and then go to the bank instead of pressurising the bank to give mee my account in my name. Bcause, according to you, asking the bank to give me services which they give for others is deforming them. As a tax paying citizen, the best I can do is to beg my money from the banker because he thinks more than the safety of my money than what I can think of it myself... So much for the right approach!!! Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. Such approach is better than deforming the bank. Kamal Verma. - Original
Re: [AI] regarding webcast on proof reading
Dear Sir, Thanks for your message. I am sending out this email to the list because excusably I am unaware about the criterion to join the webcast and I would request the members to please guide me. Secondly, if you could keep it on Sunday morning, I would be very much oblige to you - as I won’t be able to come on Saturday night. Not only I will miss the class, but my friends would also miss it, because they too are not allowed to access the net in the evening. And we all would be downhearted! Thanks, Shadab Shadablucknow.blogspot.com On 5/26/10, Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in wrote: Folks: Appologies for sending this message late. I have had a few problems in installing the broadcasting software, despite very clear instructions from Prateek. I am thinking of having this either on Saturday May 29 9.30 pm (Indian Time) or Sunday May 30 morning at 10.00 am. Requesting you all to revert with your preferred timings off the list. I shall go by the majority preference. I shall send three documents chosen for different purposes of proof reading, editing and descriptive/stylistic s. I can mail them to those who are joining the webcast since these documents will be of no use to others. I don't know if there is a limit on the number of persons who can join, pl ask Prateek about this. I shall send the documents on first come first serve basis. Pl write to me about this in private if you need further clarification. I appreciate any mail on this and your feedbacks after the presentation. Subramani To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Easy tips for improving English at shadablucknow.blogspot.com My contributions to the press http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#links Shadab Husain interviews Danny Bloom shdb101.blogspot.com Many posts on one page http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00max-results=30 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
i agreed that the discussion has not rolled back. though, it has become healthy. one side you are happy with SBI. another side, some of blind customers are unhappy with the same. banker has to follow two things: banking law and banking practice. you can combine it by saying banking law and practice. this is law that all blind customers has full right to avail banking facilities, and it is duty of banker to provide him all the facilities without discrimination. but, only matter is law must come on practice. slowly and steadily it will change. some of us may unhappy with PNB, but, some of us are availing all facilities from the same. we can not defame the entire organisation with one wrongly treated case. it defers person to person. nobody can defame entire railway department by reporting one derailment case. all banks have a mechanism to treat customer's complaints. we have to approach right person on right way. again i am to say that i never oppose the entire matter. if anyone of us have problem availing services with PNB may contact me to my personal ID. i will assist him up to maximum extent possible. PNB is my employer and it is my moral duty to support my organisation. thanks, - Original Message - From: Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The discussion has not rolled back by any means. We are not talking about general undertaking that every customer has to give, but unnecessary impositions made on people on the basis of their disabilities. Is asking NOC from the parents of a capable visually challenged a general undertaking? Of course, one can always choose between brands. But when brands indulge in whatever they want in order to maximise profit or to corner people of certain sections of society, only talking about choice would not be politically correct. I am quite happy with SBI, but does that mean that I should keep mum and remain complacent when someone, not me, is denied or is illogically imposed by the PNB, or any other bank for that matter? When a precedence gets established, particularly a wrong one, it does not take much time to spread and be widely accepted. The same applies to the precedence of denial. We can always boycott one for the other, but at the same time it is our right as well as obligation to speak against and thoroughly expose those involving in cornering certain sections of society in one way or the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes, now the entire discussion is rolled back. the matter is whether a customer should give undertaking or not. if 2-3 line undertaking solve your problem, then what is the matter. practice of undertaking is all for general, not for blind customers. we take undertaking in minor account, some times in pension account, if a pensioner is to old, unable to execute his transactions and can not step up to the branch. blind person has to face many problem in his daily living, banking is one of them. do we get barrier free environment in our city? we have PWD act for it. not only blind, each and every type of disabled person must have full right to get all services. whether it is banking, telecom, railways, airlines, electricity. law and rules are the guidelines. the person sitting on the chair, how he interpreted this law. my suggestion is don't be a brand loyal, be a system loyal. if you want to buy a soft drink, there are to many shops, being an employee of PNB, if my bank denies any services to me, i won't hesitate to avail that particular service from another bank. suppose, if your salary account exist with ABC bank but their loan rates are higher then XYZ bank, then you will bank, then you will fopefully won't avail the loan facility from that bank. - Original Message - From: Mukesh Sharma mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking Give me one such case. When issuing ATM card, the bank in their pure diplomatic language express NO RISK of the BANK on the misuse of the Card and the undertaking has to be signed by the customer and I guess that is sufficient to save your job! This is what should be done for every customer irrespective of the so called disability or ability to see or even use ATM independently. The bread and butter is forcing you to stand by bankers approach but what about your personal opinion. Or let's do it other way, suppose you are a customer and I am a BM, explain me why I shouldn't issue a ATM Card to you, if you can not, then help in your capacity to get every individual to enjoy facility equally be it of ATM or Cheque Book. A BM is there to
Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI.
Why not? I know he scares. If I am in that situation, I will instantly report to their superior or to police and press. But will not go and search for circulars. It's banks responsibility to let their employees aware of the rules as they invest a lot of money and time in the name of training. Cheers, Srinivasu On 5/26/10, Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: But when a banker denies a service which the customer is entitled to, he won't give it in writing . Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:38 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. yes sir, this is the right approach. this is a right of a customer, if any one deny services to him he should know the cause of denial in writing. it will also help him to lodge a complaint or any matter of litigation. i have one real example here. one of my blind friend went to PNB branch and approached for consumer loan. after 30 days he called me that bank people are not giving loan. i enquired the matter and found that still he did not fill an application form for consumer loan. in practice, he just go to the branch and had a discuss about the consumer loan facility with bank employees. in this case particular, would he has right to defame the banker? - Original Message - From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula sriniv...@srinivasu.org To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. Folks, I think, we should learn to be rude. May be we should do this. Approach the bank and if denied for any facility in spite having all necessary pre-requesites like any other customer, ask the BM to give the same in writing. Either they have to give us all the facilities or should reject our application by writing. In my view, we don't even need to show any circulars. Is the other customers showing any circular to avail any facility? If not, why should we do when we will be same kind of transactions? It's banks responsibility to know the rules that exist. Cheers, Srinivasu On 5/25/10, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: sure awareness about us is very importent, but BM must follow the rules. no discussion about that. At 11:01 AM 5/25/2010, you wrote: Of course, we have to fight for our rights. I have made efforts many times with various banks for facility of ATM card, net banking, vehicle loan, etc. to the blind people. We cannot change the attitude of such bank managers or administrators by only rules and regulations. We have to make publicity at large to let such managers/administrators aware of our capabilities, problems and our existence too Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. Thank god that he deals with the bank manager who understands that being blind doesn't impair his intelligence. Listen Kamal... I am not here to malign the public image of PNB or accuse the bank of wrong doing. If you ar fair and understand the fact that they, like so many offenders of the RBI regulations in the past, have failed to take into account the rights of a visually challenged person and so they are answerable. Their offence cannot be left unquestioned because they have reputation. It looks like more branch managers of that particular bank has caused problems to the visually challenged. So, we are discussing about them Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:16 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. Devendra Nikose is availing all the facilities from PNB. He is a blind customer of PNB. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Faced difficulties in opening account in SBI. My wife is not living with me, but I need to pay my bills. So... If I were to do the right thing, I must first look out for a joint account holder and then go to the bank instead of pressurising the bank to give mee my account in my name. Bcause, according to you, asking the bank to give me services which they give for others is deforming them. As a tax paying citizen, the best I can do is to beg my money from the banker because he thinks more than the safety of my money than what I can think of it myself... So much for the right
[AI] Invitation for Retina India chapter meeting at Delhi on 29th May
Dear friends, Greetings from Retina India. Retina India Delhi invites people for its formal chapter meeting on 29 May 2010 starting at 5 p m at DU-NTPC Training Centre, Tutorial building , Arts Faculty building, University of Delhi, Delhi - 7. This Arts Faculty Gate is opposite the Shri Ram College of Commerce gate, take a left inside the gate, and you will see this building as DU-NTPC Training Centre. Everyone is welcome to attend this meeting, including people with retinal ailments, their family members, volunteers who are working in the field of disability, or who wish to work in the field. People with other eye problems are also welcome to attend, since some of the projects that Retina India will undertake, working alongside other organizations in the field, will be of help to them too. This meeting will discuss the objectives and aims of Retina India, focus on the needs of the people in Delhi, and how Retina India can help these objectives. This meeting will also discuss the work that can taken up by the members in Delhi. There will also a short discussion on the current treatment options for some of the diseases. We will welcome the attendees' suggestions of what they expect from Retina India, what would they want the organization to do in the short term as well as in the long term. If you wish to know more, you can contact Retina India Delhi Coordinator, Ms Sudamani, at 99100 71897. To reach the venue, if you are taking the metro, you can get down at Vishva Vidyalaya Stn and this bldg is abt 1 km distance from the metro station. If it is a bus, get down at Vishva Vidyalaya bus station, again abt 1 km distance. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 http://www.retinaindia.org www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
Well. I wrote that I am happy with SBI to illustrate a point, that is, if I am happy with one institution\company\brand, I should not remain complacent. The fact is I am not happy with SBI either. My experience with the JNU branch of SBI has been pathetic and I am sure I would be seconded on this by my friends in JNU. My experience with the branch where my salary is processed is relatively better. Similar is the case is other banks, their various branches and their visually challenged customers. Further, the entire debate is not about only bank or the only case. There is not one, but many wrongly treated cases with PNB as well as with other banks. All of us would do well, therefore, to understand PNB as a case in point and not a single organization being targeted. Things would slowly change. But we cannot wait for the things to change. We have to constantly work it out, and one established way of doing it is to follow the rules and guidelines on one hand and to logically evaluate the rules wherever needed, on the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking i agreed that the discussion has not rolled back. though, it has become healthy. one side you are happy with SBI. another side, some of blind customers are unhappy with the same. banker has to follow two things: banking law and banking practice. you can combine it by saying banking law and practice. this is law that all blind customers has full right to avail banking facilities, and it is duty of banker to provide him all the facilities without discrimination. but, only matter is law must come on practice. slowly and steadily it will change. some of us may unhappy with PNB, but, some of us are availing all facilities from the same. we can not defame the entire organisation with one wrongly treated case. it defers person to person. nobody can defame entire railway department by reporting one derailment case. all banks have a mechanism to treat customer's complaints. we have to approach right person on right way. again i am to say that i never oppose the entire matter. if anyone of us have problem availing services with PNB may contact me to my personal ID. i will assist him up to maximum extent possible. PNB is my employer and it is my moral duty to support my organisation. thanks, - Original Message - From: Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The discussion has not rolled back by any means. We are not talking about general undertaking that every customer has to give, but unnecessary impositions made on people on the basis of their disabilities. Is asking NOC from the parents of a capable visually challenged a general undertaking? Of course, one can always choose between brands. But when brands indulge in whatever they want in order to maximise profit or to corner people of certain sections of society, only talking about choice would not be politically correct. I am quite happy with SBI, but does that mean that I should keep mum and remain complacent when someone, not me, is denied or is illogically imposed by the PNB, or any other bank for that matter? When a precedence gets established, particularly a wrong one, it does not take much time to spread and be widely accepted. The same applies to the precedence of denial. We can always boycott one for the other, but at the same time it is our right as well as obligation to speak against and thoroughly expose those involving in cornering certain sections of society in one way or the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes, now the entire discussion is rolled back. the matter is whether a customer should give undertaking or not. if 2-3 line undertaking solve your problem, then what is the matter. practice of undertaking is all for general, not for blind customers. we take undertaking in minor account, some times in pension account, if a pensioner is to old, unable to execute his transactions and can not step up to the branch. blind person has to face many problem in his daily living, banking is one of them. do we get barrier free environment in our city? we have PWD act for it. not only blind, each and every type of disabled person must have full right to get all services. whether it is banking, telecom, railways, airlines, electricity. law and rules are the guidelines. the person sitting on the chair, how he interpreted this law. my suggestion is don't be a brand loyal, be a system loyal. if you want to buy a soft drink, there are to many shops, being an employee of PNB, if
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
At this juncture, it is pertinent to point out as to how my Corporation Bank manager got convinced about providing me the ATM card. When I was talking to him and requesting him to provide me the card, he clearly denied me and categorically said that I wouldn't be able to operate the ATM card and it would get stuck if you do so on your own. astoundingly, he didn't seem to be very concerned about of the card being misused. Before I could reply, suddenly a person came and started complaining about his ATM card been stuck in the machine. Taking the advantage of that situation, I immediately intervene and said, had I been in place of this person, you would have clearly told me that I shouldn't have really opted for getting the same and now what if another person has come and you are just registering his complaint? at that point of time he jested and agreed to issue me the ATM card. If the knowledge of a person of managerial rank is so cheesy and crummy, even the God wouldn't know what to do! Regards, Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking Mr. Bhavani Please substantiate your arguments with written documents. I am afraid now we are going overboard. As if ATM frauds never happen with sighted customers. And, please inform me of any case where due to such fraud, any banker has lost the job. Even if a fraud happens to a blind customer due to his dependence on another while operating, we can always cite RBI circular in court. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:09 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes! this is a matter, if that anybody did a fraud with that blind person, cheated him, then. my four or five colleagues will loose their job, if that blind person stand before the court. who issued ATM card? the employee who entered his card details on issue register, the employee entered his details on CBS system. who will come to convince the court that entire risk goes to that blind person? - Original Message - From: AMEEN ameen.etta...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking screen reading software has nothing to do with issuing ATM cards to VI persons. for, he can operate it with the help of anybody whom he chooses. that is non of the business of the bank. if there is any risk involved in it, the person will bear it. then why should raise all lame excuses and arguments? are you willing to comply with the rules and regulations stipulated by RBI? Ameen.- Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com; access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking you are absolutely right sir, i found that only blind customer's part is discussed here. we should also consider banker's part. secondly, again i am to say that bank has full right to ask his customer, why he should require a check book. only for prestige or he has any use of it. if he or she avail check book facility, he has to maintain minimum balance in his account to continue this facility. some times we also make our blindness complicated. if any one show the law and rules, then being a banker, i am giving my ATM card and pin number to that blind customer, I will also take him to the ATM machine, but, i will not assist him to read out the menus and commands on ATM. will he independently withdraw his money? if so, could anybody voluntarily come to have a practical session? condition is a person should be bona fied blind. RBI says that 33% of ATMs should be accessible to blind persons, and it is stated on the same circular, which all our friends have mentioned here. now as a branch manager, it does not come in my power to install such ATMs. only my head office can do that. now in writing, i can reply that customer: I accept your application for ATM card. since, as per the RBI circular our branch does not have ATM accessible to blind person, and also in our city there is no ATM installed, which is accessible to the blind person, hence, your application is pending for consideration. as soon as. an accessible ATM will be installed, you will be facilitated ATM card. our hon'ble
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
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Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
each bank has its own mechanism to deal customer's complaint, better option is to use the mechanism. - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking although some of our friends seem to suggest an VC persons net getting the banking facilities is because of their ego preventing them giving a simple undertaking to the bank, the rality is far from that. as Shree Rajesh Asadani, the very practice of selective undertakings from the VC persons itself has to be according to rules, not according to the fantacies of some ignorant officer. moreover, in most cases, even when the VC person is willing to give an undertaking taking up responsibilities arising out of the possible misuse of the particular facility due to his or her disability, bank officials have refused to give the particular facility. On 5/26/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: I perceive the matter of undertakings as being afraid of anything new. Bear in mind, when typewriters were invented, women were required to furnish a medical certificate that they are fit enough to operate typewriter. Now, is not it ridiculous? A few years ago, a girl from chandrapur found a place in Guinness book for being the fastest typist at the age of 7 and typing 170WPM. So, if apart from general undertakings if anything else is required by way of disability, then it must be established by rules. And rules also can be modified to be in sync with relevance of disability for a particular transactions. For instance, maharashtra government has not identified any post of lecturer in any subject but music for blind, does anyone with minimum rational capacity see any logic in this? So, let us be logical, and evaluate the implications of any disability and its consequent relevance in formulating the rules for any matter. So, practice of lowly officials framing their arbitrary rules needs to be severely dealt with any possible manner. Like Doctor Lahane an eye specialists feels that totally blind are not capable to discharge many of jobs identified in central list, and so has debarred them from undertaking them in maharashtra by committees and issuing so many GRs. I know cases are being fought by our honorable members for it, on the ground there is hardly any change. So, I sincerely feel we must adopt all and every means to have sound laws and rules in place and then curb anybody except legislature from tempering with them. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Viraj Kafle Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:42 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The discussion has not rolled back by any means. We are not talking about general undertaking that every customer has to give, but unnecessary impositions made on people on the basis of their disabilities. Is asking NOC from the parents of a capable visually challenged a general undertaking? Of course, one can always choose between brands. But when brands indulge in whatever they want in order to maximise profit or to corner people of certain sections of society, only talking about choice would not be politically correct. I am quite happy with SBI, but does that mean that I should keep mum and remain complacent when someone, not me, is denied or is illogically imposed by the PNB, or any other bank for that matter? When a precedence gets established, particularly a wrong one, it does not take much time to spread and be widely accepted. The same applies to the precedence of denial. We can always boycott one for the other, but at the same time it is our right as well as obligation to speak against and thoroughly expose those involving in cornering certain sections of society in one way or the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes, now the entire discussion is rolled back. the matter is whether a customer should give undertaking or not. if 2-3 line undertaking solve your problem, then what is the matter. practice of undertaking is all for general, not for blind customers. we take undertaking in minor account, some times in pension account, if a pensioner is to old, unable to execute his transactions and can not step up to the branch. blind person has to face many problem in his daily living, banking is one of them. do we get
Re: [AI] Problem with NetBook Keyboard
netbooks and laptops have one key to on and off mouse and some keys. as a (p1) key on my laptop. i can swithc on and off my laptop screen and other functions by using this key. please check if so. - Original Message - From: Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: [AI] Problem with NetBook Keyboard Hello, I am using Dell Inspiron Mini1012 with Windows XP Home SP 3. For a few days, some of the keys on the keyboard have stopped responding. The keys include the FN key, the Application key, the keys 5, 6,- and \ and function keys F2, F5 and F9. They are working fine with the USB external keyboard. The keys are being pressed normally, so I don't see the chance of dust particles. Have also tried reinstalling the keyboard driver and restoring the system to earlier date on which they were working properly, but haven't got any success. Would be obliged if any solution is suggested. Thanking in anticipation, Viraj. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Crystal report viewer
sir, you can open .rtp files using notepad i do the same here. you can also rename the file as .txt extention and open it with ms-word. i don't know about the application you mentioned. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:44 PM Subject: [AI] Crystal report viewer Friends Is crystal report viewer accessible with jaws 10, with or without scripts? and can we read .rpt files reliably with it? Any experience is welcome. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
yes, nobody has right to defame the entire organisation, as one or two cases are not in a favour of blind customer. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking Dear Kamal: Let us not argue for the sake of it. I am sure you know that there is a website that has a list of defaulters who have defaulted over one crore and above. The shame is, banks have lent to these people more on the basis of their social standing than their actual credit worthiness. Just because a few of them have defaulted, do you stop lending to people? When you refer to some blind person who knowingly defaulted the bank, banks cannot conclude all v I's asking for our rights are either ignoramus fools or conniving thieves who do not deserve the right to access a service available to all. For that matter, what about the credit card fraudsters who change names and addresses and cheat on Banks? Do you stop giving credit cards on this basis? On the contrary I get numerous calls from tele oprtors to take one credit card or the other. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:46 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The same was to be happend in case of Rajkumar Sahu in Bank of India regarding his overdraft account. After my interference it could resolved with great difficulty. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes! this is a matter, if that anybody did a fraud with that blind person, cheated him, then. my four or five colleagues will loose their job, if that blind person stand before the court. who issued ATM card? the employee who entered his card details on issue register, the employee entered his details on CBS system. who will come to convince the court that entire risk goes to that blind person? - Original Message - From: AMEEN ameen.etta...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking screen reading software has nothing to do with issuing ATM cards to VI persons. for, he can operate it with the help of anybody whom he chooses. that is non of the business of the bank. if there is any risk involved in it, the person will bear it. then why should raise all lame excuses and arguments? are you willing to comply with the rules and regulations stipulated by RBI? Ameen.- Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com; access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking you are absolutely right sir, i found that only blind customer's part is discussed here. we should also consider banker's part. secondly, again i am to say that bank has full right to ask his customer, why he should require a check book. only for prestige or he has any use of it. if he or she avail check book facility, he has to maintain minimum balance in his account to continue this facility. some times we also make our blindness complicated. if any one show the law and rules, then being a banker, i am giving my ATM card and pin number to that blind customer, I will also take him to the ATM machine, but, i will not assist him to read out the menus and commands on ATM. will he independently withdraw his money? if so, could anybody voluntarily come to have a practical session? condition is a person should be bona fied blind. RBI says that 33% of ATMs should be accessible to blind persons, and it is stated on the same circular, which all our friends have mentioned here. now as a branch manager, it does not come in my power to install such ATMs. only my head office can do that. now in writing, i can reply that customer: I accept your application for ATM card. since, as per the RBI circular our branch does not have ATM accessible to blind person, and also in our city there is no ATM installed, which is accessible to the blind person, hence, your application is pending for consideration. as soon as. an accessible ATM will be installed, you will be facilitated ATM card. our hon'ble blind customer unable to operate ATM which exist in our branch, independently, further, this matter has been referred to our authorities. thanking you, - Original Message - From: B. R. Nautial brnaut...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking no sir, its not a question of ego here. in my opinion, both the parties are
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
you are right sir, it has only two years completed. the RBI, CCPD and IBA prescribed rules for blind persons. it will ofcourse come on practice. like PWD act is still awaited to be fully complied. as the number of blind customer increase, some of bank officials have to change their attitude towards blind customers. better is to use the mechanism for complaint redresal framed in all banks. - Original Message - From: Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking Well. I wrote that I am happy with SBI to illustrate a point, that is, if I am happy with one institution\company\brand, I should not remain complacent. The fact is I am not happy with SBI either. My experience with the JNU branch of SBI has been pathetic and I am sure I would be seconded on this by my friends in JNU. My experience with the branch where my salary is processed is relatively better. Similar is the case is other banks, their various branches and their visually challenged customers. Further, the entire debate is not about only bank or the only case. There is not one, but many wrongly treated cases with PNB as well as with other banks. All of us would do well, therefore, to understand PNB as a case in point and not a single organization being targeted. Things would slowly change. But we cannot wait for the things to change. We have to constantly work it out, and one established way of doing it is to follow the rules and guidelines on one hand and to logically evaluate the rules wherever needed, on the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking i agreed that the discussion has not rolled back. though, it has become healthy. one side you are happy with SBI. another side, some of blind customers are unhappy with the same. banker has to follow two things: banking law and banking practice. you can combine it by saying banking law and practice. this is law that all blind customers has full right to avail banking facilities, and it is duty of banker to provide him all the facilities without discrimination. but, only matter is law must come on practice. slowly and steadily it will change. some of us may unhappy with PNB, but, some of us are availing all facilities from the same. we can not defame the entire organisation with one wrongly treated case. it defers person to person. nobody can defame entire railway department by reporting one derailment case. all banks have a mechanism to treat customer's complaints. we have to approach right person on right way. again i am to say that i never oppose the entire matter. if anyone of us have problem availing services with PNB may contact me to my personal ID. i will assist him up to maximum extent possible. PNB is my employer and it is my moral duty to support my organisation. thanks, - Original Message - From: Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The discussion has not rolled back by any means. We are not talking about general undertaking that every customer has to give, but unnecessary impositions made on people on the basis of their disabilities. Is asking NOC from the parents of a capable visually challenged a general undertaking? Of course, one can always choose between brands. But when brands indulge in whatever they want in order to maximise profit or to corner people of certain sections of society, only talking about choice would not be politically correct. I am quite happy with SBI, but does that mean that I should keep mum and remain complacent when someone, not me, is denied or is illogically imposed by the PNB, or any other bank for that matter? When a precedence gets established, particularly a wrong one, it does not take much time to spread and be widely accepted. The same applies to the precedence of denial. We can always boycott one for the other, but at the same time it is our right as well as obligation to speak against and thoroughly expose those involving in cornering certain sections of society in one way or the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes, now the entire discussion is rolled back. the matter is whether a customer should give undertaking or not. if 2-3 line undertaking solve your problem, then what is the matter. practice of undertaking is all for general, not for blind customers. we take undertaking in minor account, some times in pension account, if a pensioner is to old, unable to execute his transactions and can not step up to the branch. blind person has to face many problem in
Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
I would like to supplement this by telling a very interesting incident. Few months back when I had approached to one of the dealers of the Indian Oil Corporation to have my own gas connection, I heard that a lady had also come for the same purpose. The concerned person immediately asked that lady whether she was married or bachelor, when she told that she was unmarried, he immediately denied that lady to have the gas connection and he categorically said to that lady, ham tumhen kaise gas connection de sakte hain, tum to shaadi karke kahin aur chali jaogi? (how can we provide you the gas connection, you would just run when you'll get married?) Now I don't really understand as to which of the laws of this land says that unmarried girls wouldn't have the right to own the gas connection? Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking I perceive the matter of undertakings as being afraid of anything new. Bear in mind, when typewriters were invented, women were required to furnish a medical certificate that they are fit enough to operate typewriter. Now, is not it ridiculous? A few years ago, a girl from chandrapur found a place in Guinness book for being the fastest typist at the age of 7 and typing 170WPM. So, if apart from general undertakings if anything else is required by way of disability, then it must be established by rules. And rules also can be modified to be in sync with relevance of disability for a particular transactions. For instance, maharashtra government has not identified any post of lecturer in any subject but music for blind, does anyone with minimum rational capacity see any logic in this? So, let us be logical, and evaluate the implications of any disability and its consequent relevance in formulating the rules for any matter. So, practice of lowly officials framing their arbitrary rules needs to be severely dealt with any possible manner. Like Doctor Lahane an eye specialists feels that totally blind are not capable to discharge many of jobs identified in central list, and so has debarred them from undertaking them in maharashtra by committees and issuing so many GRs. I know cases are being fought by our honorable members for it, on the ground there is hardly any change. So, I sincerely feel we must adopt all and every means to have sound laws and rules in place and then curb anybody except legislature from tempering with them. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Viraj Kafle Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:42 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking The discussion has not rolled back by any means. We are not talking about general undertaking that every customer has to give, but unnecessary impositions made on people on the basis of their disabilities. Is asking NOC from the parents of a capable visually challenged a general undertaking? Of course, one can always choose between brands. But when brands indulge in whatever they want in order to maximise profit or to corner people of certain sections of society, only talking about choice would not be politically correct. I am quite happy with SBI, but does that mean that I should keep mum and remain complacent when someone, not me, is denied or is illogically imposed by the PNB, or any other bank for that matter? When a precedence gets established, particularly a wrong one, it does not take much time to spread and be widely accepted. The same applies to the precedence of denial. We can always boycott one for the other, but at the same time it is our right as well as obligation to speak against and thoroughly expose those involving in cornering certain sections of society in one way or the other. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking yes, now the entire discussion is rolled back. the matter is whether a customer should give undertaking or not. if 2-3 line undertaking solve your problem, then what is the matter. practice of undertaking is all for general, not for blind customers. we take undertaking in minor account, some times in pension account, if a pensioner is to old, unable to execute his transactions and can not step up to the branch. blind person has to face many problem in
[AI] Invitation for Retina India meeting at Pune on 29th May
Dear friends, Greetings from Retina India. Retina India Pune invites people for its formal chapter meeting on May 29, 2010 starting at 4pm until 530pm at the Steven Niwas Boys Hostel Auditorium, which is situated opposite Shivaji Market in Camp area, Pune. Everyone is welcome to attend this meeting, including people with retinal ailments, their family members, volunteers who are working in the field of disability, or who wish to work in the field. People with other eye problems are also welcome to attend, since some of the projects that Retina India will undertake, working alongside other organizations in the field, will be of help to them too. This preliminary meeting will discuss the objectives and aims of Retina India, focus on the needs of the people in Pune, and how Retina India can help these objectives. This meeting will also discuss the work that can taken up by the members in Pune. There will also a short discussion on the current treatment options for some of the diseases. We will welcome the attendees' suggestions of what they expect from Retina India, what would they want the organization to do in the short term as well as in the long term. If you wish to know more, you can contact Retina India Pune Coordinator, Ms Zainab Chinikamwala at 98223 44562. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Fillip to disability studies
Hello all I am pasting a message from our member which did not get through. Harish. Date:25/05/2010 URL: http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/edu/2010/05/25/stories/2010052550030100.htm Back Education Plus Fillip to disability studies A committee set up by the State government has recommended the creation of two centres of excellence in disability studies in the State. G. MAHADEVAN describes the courses that are likely to be offered by these centres from 2011. New initiative: The proposed programmes will be designed to equip the learner to change the mindset of society towards disability. Come 2011 and postgraduate programmes in disability studies could well be part of the bouquet of courses on offer in the higher education sector in Kerala. The final draft report [prepared last week] of a committee set by the State government has recommended the creation of two centres of excellence in disability studies - an inter-university centre attached to the Mahatma Gandhi University offering postgraduate, M.Phil. and doctoral programmes, and the second attached to the LBS, offering postgraduate diploma programmes. The committee headed by noted historian Dr. K. N. Panikkar is expected to submit its report to the government shortly. Mr. Panikkar told the The Hindu-EducationPlus that the inter-university centre could be set up in a couple of months. Realistically we can expect the first of the courses to be offered in 2011, he said. The postgraduate programmes would be interdisciplinary in nature. Those opting for disability studies after graduating from the science stream would receive an M.Sc. degree. On the other hand those coming from the social sciences or humanities branches would be given an MA degree. This is a first of its kind course, a programme where the MA and the M.Sc. programme are offered in an integrated manner, committee member and member of the National Human Rights Commission Core Group on disability, Dr. G. N. Karna told The Hindu-EducationPlus. Though there are a couple of institutions that offer courses in disability studies, they tend to approach the subject from the angle of special education. None of them get to the core of disability studies. In that respect the Kerala programmes will be unique, he explained. The second centre of excellence would concentrate on postgraduate diplomas in disability studies. The thrust of these programmes would be on innovations rehabilitation technology. The situation now is that disability is studied in a piecemeal fashion, as part of other disciplines such as medical science, social work, special education and so on. The programmes recommended by the committee however, are a judicious blend of theory and practice. They are designed to change the mindset of society towards disability and persons with disabilities. As such these courses would contain course work, lectures, field work and an internship. There would be compulsory course work even for the doctoral programme, he said. According to Mr. Karna the committee took pains to ensure that the draft syllabi for these courses were not carbon copies of similar programmes offered in developed nations. We wanted includes aspects of Indian culture and civilization vis-à-vis disability in these courses. Unlike in the west, the family support system is very good in India. What we have come up with is an Indianised syllabus for disability studies, something that is based on Indian realities, Mr. Karna said. The focus of these courses would not be the study of disability but would be the socio-economic sides of the subject. The situation in the country is such that there is no academic paradigm which can help policymakers understand various aspects of disability and put in place meaningful programmes for persons with disability. The expertise of leading scholars in disability studies would be made available to the two centres of excellence. We have provided for a visiting scholar programme wherein a noted academic in this field can stay at a centre for six months to one year, he said. The final report of the committee is expected to contain recommendations for instituting scholarship programmes for those who sign up for the programmes on disability studies. Though the Central government has earmarked funds for scholarships for the disabled, the State government too would be asked to do its bit for furthering the cause of this discipline. The syllabi for various programmes suggested by the committee would of course have to be approved by the boards of study of universities. According to Mr. Karna the government should also put in place a mechanism to ensure that the implementation of the committee's recommendations is not derailed by a change in government. Sometime down the line, distance learning programmes in disability studies too can be thought of. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or
[AI] Invitation for Retina India meeting at Pune on 29th May
Dear friends, Greetings from Retina India. Retina India Pune invites people for its formal chapter meeting on May 29, 2010 starting at 4pm until 530pm at the Steven Niwas Boys Hostel Auditorium, which is situated opposite Shivaji Market in Camp area, Pune. Everyone is welcome to attend this meeting, including people with retinal ailments, their family members, volunteers who are working in the field of disability, or who wish to work in the field. People with other eye problems are also welcome to attend, since some of the projects that Retina India will undertake, working alongside other organizations in the field, will be of help to them too. This preliminary meeting will discuss the objectives and aims of Retina India, focus on the needs of the people in Pune, and how Retina India can help these objectives. This meeting will also discuss the work that can taken up by the members in Pune. There will also a short discussion on the current treatment options for some of the diseases. We will welcome the attendees' suggestions of what they expect from Retina India, what would they want the organization to do in the short term as well as in the long term. If you wish to know more, you can contact Retina India Pune Coordinator, Ms Zainab Chinikamwala at 98223 44562. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] nokia E71 and E 72
Dear Accessindians, Hope every buddy are doing great ,let me wish you all the best in your life. Today I would request a suggestion from you for buying a nokia e71 or e72 or E63. Would request our friends to give me a analyzed suggestion from this 3 or any new one. My max budget is 18 Rupees. Appreciating your help, Regards, Vinod Benjamin To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] to know about GPS accessibility
hello members among us different types of advanced mobile phones and other instruments are using, any one has the fecility to access global positioning system? i think that fesility will liberate us in certain extent in the case of travel. advanced GPS has the fesility to mark a particular place and can identify a mynute place. if any more information about its accessibility please inform To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Regarding Volume Control
Respected members, I have been facing a problem to the volume control of my computer for quite a long time. When ever I start typing in microsoft word or in any other application, after some times, suddenly the system volume got down vary low. Litterally, I could not able to follow in the out speakers. Usually this problem arise after I type 20/30 minutes. I can feel some delay in the Jaws typing echo and eventually the entire system volume, including that of all media players got dim. For getting back to normalcy, I need to re-boot the system. On the presumption of having infected by some viruses, I have several times formatted the system, but of no use. Now a days, these problem has become frequent so much so that, I could not type hardly longer than 5/10 minutes. Have anyone of you faced this strange crisis? What may be the problem? For resolving this, what I have to do? Your suggestions and guidance will be of immense help. Following are the particulars of my system. Processor/ AMD, Motherboard/ Asus, Ram 512 with a capacity of 40 GB. Looking forward to your valuable response. With Regards. Hari. harikoda...@gmail.com To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Query regarding Hindi typing with JAWS.
when on wich day can you forword the said mail once again please navneet dubey - Original Message - From: Sandeep Singh sandeepsingh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding Hindi typing with JAWS. Hi, Amiyo sir had given a very detailed account of how to install hindi or any local language in your computer. If you can locate that, that will help you immensely. Regards, Sandeep At 10:49 AM 30-04-10, you wrote: Dear list members, As the subject line reveals itself, I have a query related to Hindi typing with JAWS. I am using JAWS 10 in my PC. Could any one of you guide me how to add Hindi to JAWS. Thanks in advance. God bless you all. -- Thanks and regards To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] nokia E71 and E 72
I am using Nokia E72. If we talk about features, looks, hardware then E72 is the most impressive phone. However, nokia has changed the OS for some application hence some aps like the inbuilt email, calendar, are not accessible with mobile speak. However, I believe that the mobile speak manufacturers are working on the same and will be able to resolve this problem shortly. Meanwhile, there are alternative application available for email access, hence this problem will be resolved to some extent. Regards Ankit -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of vinod benjamin Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] nokia E71 and E 72 Dear Accessindians, Hope every buddy are doing great ,let me wish you all the best in your life. Today I would request a suggestion from you for buying a nokia e71 or e72 or E63. Would request our friends to give me a analyzed suggestion from this 3 or any new one. My max budget is 18 Rupees. Appreciating your help, Regards, Vinod Benjamin To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Query regarding scribe’s eligibility in I GNOU B A Programme exam
CONTACT ME OFF LIST ON techy@sify.com - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: [AI] Query regarding scribe’s eligibility in IGNOU B A Programme exam Dear members, I wish to know the eligibility criteria for availing scribe's facility in IGNOU's Bachelor Degree Programme’s first year exam. As the concerned authority is denying permitting twelfth passed scribe presenting school leaving certificate. According to them, the scribe should not have passed twelfth standard. At maximum he/she should have given the exam of twelfth without declared result. Thanking in advance -- Himanshu Sahu Reach: 09051055000 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Crystal report viewer
NORMALY CRISTAL REPORTS ARE VIEWD IN ATTACHED PROJECT PLATFORM LIKE VB DOTNET ETC. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Crystal report viewer sir, you can open .rtp files using notepad i do the same here. you can also rename the file as .txt extention and open it with ms-word. i don't know about the application you mentioned. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:44 PM Subject: [AI] Crystal report viewer Friends Is crystal report viewer accessible with jaws 10, with or without scripts? and can we read .rpt files reliably with it? Any experience is welcome. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] nokia E71 and E 72
agreed with ankit, e 72 is a best phone. and its comes in your bajjat its cost is around 17400. if we talk about e 71, then its similar to e 72 to many extent, only the different is of its camera and processor. and the net speed. comparativly, e 72 has latest technology so you may think about it.though you want to buy an average and cheaf phone, then e 63 is not bad at all. it has all the require features. and its cost is around 11000 On 5/26/10, vinod benjamin vinbe...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Accessindians, Hope every buddy are doing great ,let me wish you all the best in your life. Today I would request a suggestion from you for buying a nokia e71 or e72 or E63. Would request our friends to give me a analyzed suggestion from this 3 or any new one. My max budget is 18 Rupees. Appreciating your help, Regards, Vinod Benjamin To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Woods are dark and deep, I have promises to keep, And I have miles to go before I sleep. sunil sangtani To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Regarding Volume Control
it seems hardware problem. check your sound hardware device. it may be manufacturing defect. - Original Message - From: hari harikoda...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:15 PM Subject: [AI] Regarding Volume Control Respected members, I have been facing a problem to the volume control of my computer for quite a long time. When ever I start typing in microsoft word or in any other application, after some times, suddenly the system volume got down vary low. Litterally, I could not able to follow in the out speakers. Usually this problem arise after I type 20/30 minutes. I can feel some delay in the Jaws typing echo and eventually the entire system volume, including that of all media players got dim. For getting back to normalcy, I need to re-boot the system. On the presumption of having infected by some viruses, I have several times formatted the system, but of no use. Now a days, these problem has become frequent so much so that, I could not type hardly longer than 5/10 minutes. Have anyone of you faced this strange crisis? What may be the problem? For resolving this, what I have to do? Your suggestions and guidance will be of immense help. Following are the particulars of my system. Processor/ AMD, Motherboard/ Asus, Ram 512 with a capacity of 40 GB. Looking forward to your valuable response. With Regards. Hari. harikoda...@gmail.com To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] i i t j e e books required
I need the same. Please send it to me also.
Regards
Devendra Nikose
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dear friends
please , i want to find any guide of mathematics for the entrance exam of
I I T -J E E guide must be from any famous publisher or any good writer
such as from jain and vashishta . i also want to find a book of questions
papers of last 20 years of I I T J E E . If any body can provide me these
books i will be very thankful to him .
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Re: [AI] Regarding Volume Control
Hi It is quite possible, your multi media speaker is the culprit. To confirm, replace the multi media jack at your PC end with a headphone. Ensure, the volume is reduced to reasonable levels before venturing into it. Harish. - Original Message - From: hari harikoda...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:15 PM Subject: [AI] Regarding Volume Control Respected members, I have been facing a problem to the volume control of my computer for quite a long time. When ever I start typing in microsoft word or in any other application, after some times, suddenly the system volume got down vary low. Litterally, I could not able to follow in the out speakers. Usually this problem arise after I type 20/30 minutes. I can feel some delay in the Jaws typing echo and eventually the entire system volume, including that of all media players got dim. For getting back to normalcy, I need to re-boot the system. On the presumption of having infected by some viruses, I have several times formatted the system, but of no use. Now a days, these problem has become frequent so much so that, I could not type hardly longer than 5/10 minutes. Have anyone of you faced this strange crisis? What may be the problem? For resolving this, what I have to do? Your suggestions and guidance will be of immense help. Following are the particulars of my system. Processor/ AMD, Motherboard/ Asus, Ram 512 with a capacity of 40 GB. Looking forward to your valuable response. With Regards. Hari. harikoda...@gmail.com To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] (no subject)
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Re: [AI] (no subject)
Hello, You have sent a blank message. Gopalakrishnan - Original Message - From: radhai bai krishnamorthi radhaba...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:21 AM Subject: [AI] (no subject) To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Query regarding Excel with Jaws
Dear list, I am using Jaws V11.0.756 and Excel 2003. While instructing Jaws to read column titles by running Jaws manager (Insert+F2) and then going to title reading options and setting my preferences, after hitting close button, jaws says Application Settings Could Not be Saved. What might have gone wrong? Hoping for an earliest reply. Satguru. ___ Life's battle do not always go, To the stronger or faster man. But sooner or later the one who wins, Is the one who thinks he Can. Satguru Rathi Emails: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in;tarannumra...@gmail.com Skype: satgururathi Mobile:+9199 71 23 16 27 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] [From Nimita Sharma] Problem in Gmail
hello, if my guess is right, then eather you are using gmail in a stander view or the forms moad of jaws gets off while typing. as a result, navigation keys gets activate and makes changes to ur message. On 5/26/10, Dr. Yogesh Sharma yogesh.sharma...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list members, I have not configured my account in Outlook Express yet. So, I usually use Internet Explorer to compose and read my mails. But, as I start writing in the Message Body Frame of G mail, after the very few words I suddenly land up in the options like Add CC Field and Add B C C field and the original message that I am typing gets lost somewhere. All I find is an Internet Explorer dialogue saying: your message has been modified. Abandon changes? Okay and Cancel buttons please tell me how can I remedy it? Thanks in advance. Nimita Sharma To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Woods are dark and deep, I have promises to keep, And I have miles to go before I sleep. sunil sangtani To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
