Re: [AI] kind attention legal experts: disability certificket to dixlexic?

[SC Vashishth]

Its long due for a change! the draft of the revised PWD Act has included
it. Perhaps when the Act was created way back in 1994-95 not much was known
about many disabilities that we now know. Labeling often does more harm
which professional are very adept at. The only objective of giving a noun
to a condition is to understand the potential in the condition and
adaptation required to mainstream and nothing more.
regards


On 24 February 2012 17:37, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:

> Well, Maybe, but don't you think such classification is unjustified?
> If IQ is calculated just on the basis of whether one can read/write, then
> only we can call it mental retardation.
> It is actually a learning disability, which is better called what it is,
> instead of designating it as mental retardation.
> But, I am afraid you are right, and even psychologists calculate IQ based
> on  specific abilities like language, visual pattern recognition etc.  and
> even GK, instead of any solid ggeneral foundation.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of SC Vashishth
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 4:41 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] kind attention legal experts: disability certificket to
> dixlexic?
>
> Rajesh,
>
> Dylexia would fall under the "Mental Retardation" category and not "Mental
> Illness" under the existing framework of disabilities defined under the PWD
> Act - though the two are very different from each other. However, CBSE
> doesn't insist on the disability certificate which may be required under
> the PWD Act to avail various concessions for dyslexia.
>
> Hence, a certificate from a psychiatrist/psychologist should do. However,
> it would be advisable to approach a competent medical board (generally the
> district hospitals) with the existing medical papers from the specialist
> doctors etc for  for issuance of a disability certificate.
>
> --
> Warm regards,
>
> Subhash Chandra Vashishth
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Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello all,

One question is if we need to get the scanner serviced as any part in
scanner can be malfunctioning or dust and bad surface make a
difference..

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Salman
Raafay
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:19 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent?

I think the accuracy of scanning document depends upon the quality
scanner somewhere, HP Jet2400 is a basic scanner and may not give as
better result as other better scanners. If you are a partially person
then do scan in kurzweil keeping images enabled, it will be benificial
for you in the situation where unclear text appears, you can see the
image of the page by pressing controll+w.
I am also five year law bachelor degree holder and completed my
masters in international law. I have many law books scanned, if you
need any particular please do let me know. I wll be providing you.

On 2/28/12, Umesha Economics  wrote:
> good afternoon Uma,
> OK, your hardware configuration is sufficient. the resolution is also
ideal.
> but let me know one thing, how do you edit the text after converting
with
> fine reader? because, with fine reader, we can get either of RTF, PDF
or TXT
> outputs as per my knowledge. if you get it in RTF or TXT, you will be
having
> the text but not the images. in that case, you have to look into the
> original printed material for correction. if you get it in PDF, you
get the
> images but not the text and you can not read and edit it. that is why
I
> prefer Kurzweil for scanning purposes. also send the scanned book
without
> correction. but remember you have to send it privately off the list or
> through dropbox or sendspace as the attachments are not allowed in the
list.
>
> Umesha
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Uma VR" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 11:31 AM
> Subject: [AI] how a VI can be independent?
>
>
>> good morning friends,
>> I am using HP scan Z 2400 for scanning and Abby fine reader (10
>> version) for conversion.
>> the configuration of my hard disc is 500 GB with 4GB RAM.
>> the resolution set up is 300, the brightness is 50%
>> if you want, I can send you the copy of scanned images also.
>> thank you in advance
>>
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Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded

[Dinesh]

as per this phone, we have to make sure first that it will work with our 
exchanges.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sumesh Surendran" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded


Dear friends,

I am also searching for a talking land phone. I bought the one
supplied by Sakshum. The price of which was around Rs. 800. The phone
will announce the numbers which we dial and the number of the incoming
call. The maindrawback of the phone is that the menu options and
contacts are really inaccessible to the visually challenged persons.
It will not speak the name and other options.

While googling for an accessible telephone I found one which seems
really wonderful. I got really impressed by the features available in
it. It provides voice support to all menu options and contact names.
Following are the important features of the phone.

Item Code: BDP400 Geemarc BDP400 Talking Amplified Phone with Large Display
Geemarc's BDP400 Talking Amplified Phone with Large Display was
developed according to the requirements and guidelines set forth by
the Royal Institute for the Blind (RNIB) in England. It was tested at
every stage of the development by focus groups of blind users whose
feedback helped in the development process.

The BDP400 announces the numbers and menu options when you press them.
It also offers full vocalization of names, numbers, menu, commands,
date and time. Volume control is adjustable up to 40dB with an
extra-loud hands-free speakerphone, features to aid individuals with
visual impairments or hearing loss. All keys and key functions are
spoken, as well as any contact names stored in the phone memory.
Product Features•Up to 40dB amplification
•Tone and volume control
•Adjustable receiving tone control +/-10dB
•Boost button activates built-in amplifier
•Adjustable extra large LCD display is 7cm x 11.7cm; characters are 2.3cm 
high

•LCD display can show light characters on dark background or dark
characters on light background
•Ergonomic design for easy use by blind users
•Contrasting colors and fonts for visually impaired users
•Spoken menu, names, numbers and commands
•Hear each command spoken with a touch of the buttons
•Talking Caller ID
•Record names in the memory and hear them spoken as a call comes in
•Easy-to-use navigational menu
•Three one-touch memory buttons
•Phone book with 85 numbers
•Big button keypad
•Extra loud hands-free speakerphone with adjustable volume setting
•90dB SPL at 1m extra loud ringer with bright visual ring indicator
•Mute function
•2.5mm headset jack
•Four AA batteries required to store phone numbers in case of power
outage (not included)
•Large print user manual
•Hearing aid compatible

I think it is quite suitable to meet almost all of our requirements.
You can see the full details and video demonstration of it from the
following link.

http://www.assistech.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=BDP400

I have no personal experience with this phone. All the details
mentioned above are copied from their web site. I don’t know whether
some one in our country is using it or not. If somebody is using it or
having any more information please be kind enough to share it over the
list. If If it can work well with our system, it will be very much
useful to the visually challenged people, especially those who are
working with phone

Expecting your expert support.

Sumesh K S
Chief computer trainer
RCG SRVC Centre
Vismaya, Info Park
Cochin.



While googling for such a device I got the information about one named 
geemarc



On 2/28/12, Dinesh  wrote:

please read the earlier emails before replying. It's my humble request.
Saksham has been referred by someone already. and also someone said that
phone has no memory and it's saying the caller name only once.

- Original Message -
From: "balondhe" 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded



Please contact to Saksham or visit:
www.saksham.org
- Original Message -
From: "Surendra Salgaonkar)" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:46 AM
Subject: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded



Dear ones i need above instrument.if anyone know about please let me
know...
Thank you and good luck!Surendra Salgaonkar
mobile
+919867645933
skype
salgaonkarskype
email
salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com



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Re: [AI] A request for giving the guidelines to creat a link & send it to others in email

[zoher]

if you are surfing on the net and find a particular page intresting and you 
want to share the link of the page, when you are on that page just press 
alt+d and press ctrl+c to coppy the link and paste it in your e-mail. when 
other person opens the mail and hit enter on the link send in your mail, he 
will reach on that page.
- Original Message - 
From: "faisalraz mansuri" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:02 AM
Subject: [AI] A request for giving the guidelines to creat a link & send it 
to others in email




Hello sir, I'm FaisalRaza,
Sir I want to know that how can we creat a link and send it by email?
You may email me for your suggestions at,
mansurifaisal...@gmail.com
You can also contact me at my mobile my mobile number is,
997455


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Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent?

[Salman Raafay]

I think the accuracy of scanning document depends upon the quality
scanner somewhere, HP Jet2400 is a basic scanner and may not give as
better result as other better scanners. If you are a partially person
then do scan in kurzweil keeping images enabled, it will be benificial
for you in the situation where unclear text appears, you can see the
image of the page by pressing controll+w.
I am also five year law bachelor degree holder and completed my
masters in international law. I have many law books scanned, if you
need any particular please do let me know. I wll be providing you.

On 2/28/12, Umesha Economics  wrote:
> good afternoon Uma,
> OK, your hardware configuration is sufficient. the resolution is also ideal.
> but let me know one thing, how do you edit the text after converting with
> fine reader? because, with fine reader, we can get either of RTF, PDF or TXT
> outputs as per my knowledge. if you get it in RTF or TXT, you will be having
> the text but not the images. in that case, you have to look into the
> original printed material for correction. if you get it in PDF, you get the
> images but not the text and you can not read and edit it. that is why I
> prefer Kurzweil for scanning purposes. also send the scanned book without
> correction. but remember you have to send it privately off the list or
> through dropbox or sendspace as the attachments are not allowed in the list.
>
> Umesha
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Uma VR" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 11:31 AM
> Subject: [AI] how a VI can be independent?
>
>
>> good morning friends,
>> I am using HP scan Z 2400 for scanning and Abby fine reader (10
>> version) for conversion.
>> the configuration of my hard disc is 500 GB with 4GB RAM.
>> the resolution set up is 300, the brightness is 50%
>> if you want, I can send you the copy of scanned images also.
>> thank you in advance
>>
>>
>> Search for old postings at:
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Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded

[Sumesh Surendran]

Dear friends,

I am also searching for a talking land phone. I bought the one
supplied by Sakshum. The price of which was around Rs. 800. The phone
will announce the numbers which we dial and the number of the incoming
call. The maindrawback of the phone is that the menu options and
contacts are really inaccessible to the visually challenged persons.
It will not speak the name and other options.

While googling for an accessible telephone I found one which seems
really wonderful. I got really impressed by the features available in
it. It provides voice support to all menu options and contact names.
Following are the important features of the phone.

Item Code: BDP400 Geemarc BDP400 Talking Amplified Phone with Large Display
Geemarc's BDP400 Talking Amplified Phone with Large Display was
developed according to the requirements and guidelines set forth by
the Royal Institute for the Blind (RNIB) in England. It was tested at
every stage of the development by focus groups of blind users whose
feedback helped in the development process.

The BDP400 announces the numbers and menu options when you press them.
It also offers full vocalization of names, numbers, menu, commands,
date and time. Volume control is adjustable up to 40dB with an
extra-loud hands-free speakerphone, features to aid individuals with
visual impairments or hearing loss. All keys and key functions are
spoken, as well as any contact names stored in the phone memory.
Product Features•Up to 40dB amplification
•Tone and volume control
•Adjustable receiving tone control +/-10dB
•Boost button activates built-in amplifier
•Adjustable extra large LCD display is 7cm x 11.7cm; characters are 2.3cm high
•LCD display can show light characters on dark background or dark
characters on light background
•Ergonomic design for easy use by blind users
•Contrasting colors and fonts for visually impaired users
•Spoken menu, names, numbers and commands
•Hear each command spoken with a touch of the buttons
•Talking Caller ID
•Record names in the memory and hear them spoken as a call comes in
•Easy-to-use navigational menu
•Three one-touch memory buttons
•Phone book with 85 numbers
•Big button keypad
•Extra loud hands-free speakerphone with adjustable volume setting
•90dB SPL at 1m extra loud ringer with bright visual ring indicator
•Mute function
•2.5mm headset jack
•Four AA batteries required to store phone numbers in case of power
outage (not included)
•Large print user manual
•Hearing aid compatible

I think it is quite suitable to meet almost all of our requirements.
You can see the full details and video demonstration of it from the
following link.

http://www.assistech.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=BDP400

I have no personal experience with this phone. All the details
mentioned above are copied from their web site. I don’t know whether
some one in our country is using it or not. If somebody is using it or
having any more information please be kind enough to share it over the
list. If If it can work well with our system, it will be very much
useful to the visually challenged people, especially those who are
working with phone

Expecting your expert support.

Sumesh K S
Chief computer trainer
RCG SRVC Centre
Vismaya, Info Park
Cochin.



While googling for such a device I got the information about one named geemarc


On 2/28/12, Dinesh  wrote:
> please read the earlier emails before replying. It's my humble request.
> Saksham has been referred by someone already. and also someone said that
> phone has no memory and it's saying the caller name only once.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "balondhe" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded
>
>
>> Please contact to Saksham or visit:
>> www.saksham.org
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Surendra Salgaonkar)" 
>> To: 
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:46 AM
>> Subject: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded
>>
>>
>>> Dear ones i need above instrument.if anyone know about please let me
>>> know...
>>> Thank you and good luck!Surendra Salgaonkar
>>> mobile
>>> +919867645933
>>> skype
>>> salgaonkarskype
>>> email
>>> salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
>>> surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
I had talking Caller ID in the past which I had picked from Saksham. It would 
call out 4 times. Those can be changed in its settings.

Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: Dinesh [mailto:sk.dines...@gmail.com]
Sent: 28 February 2012 20:57
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded

please read the earlier emails before replying. It's my humble request.
Saksham has been referred by someone already. and also someone said that
phone has no memory and it's saying the caller name only once.

- Original Message -
From: "balondhe" 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded


> Please contact to Saksham or visit:
> www.saksham.org
> - Original Message -
> From: "Surendra Salgaonkar)" 
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:46 AM
> Subject: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded
>
>
>> Dear ones i need above instrument.if anyone know about please let me
>> know...
>> Thank you and good luck!Surendra Salgaonkar
>> mobile
>> +919867645933
>> skype
>> salgaonkarskype
>> email
>> salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
>> surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent ?

[Shona Man]

Hi milan can you tell me about versa? Is it portable hand held
magnifire? Can you tell me more about it, as I am looking to perchase
one very soon.

On 2/29/12, Umesha Economics  wrote:
> what is the difference between automatic and manual scanning?
>
> Umesha
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Milan Mittal" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent ?
>
>
>> hello list members,
>> 1. you can try automatic scanning as it gives around 90% accuracy and
>> speedy as well. you can get it done from any organisation nearby your
>> place having this machine.
>> 2. portable magnifiers like versa proves very benefitial for low
>> vision people when there is immediate requirement of checking /
>> reading document.
>> 3. there is another device by the name zoom x where the book is placed
>> below a camera connected with the desktop / laptop and within few
>> seconds after a click, it starts reading the page.
>> hope that above mentioned things may prove benefitial for you.
>>
>> On 2/27/12, Uma VR  wrote:
>>> good evening friends,
>>> I hope any of you can give me suggestions.
>>> I have completed LL.B with utmost difficulty. now, my problem is with
>>> regard to scanning all the law books. I am doing the scanning work on
>>> my own. but, while coming to point of editing, I am having many
>>> problems. there I need the help of the sighted. I found that there are
>>> many errors in the text which I have scanned. it is very difficult for
>>> me to do editing work on my own. but any way I am doing it.
>>>
>>> now, my querry is how a VI advocate is able to scan and read all the
>>> books. the reason why I ask this question is when someone asks us
>>> about  any section, we have to refer to the particular book. i think
>>> it is not possible for us to scan and keep with us all the books. if
>>> at all we have scanned books with us, we have to do proof reading. it
>>> is very difficult to do proof reading rather than doing scanning. I am
>>> taking 45 minutes to edit one page and that too with great difficulty
>>> by staining my eyes.
>>>
>>> so, friends, please give me suggestions for the following
>>> 1. is there any way to get error free text after scanning and
>>> converting it into text.
>>> 2. is there any efficient way of proof reading?
>>> 3. is there any other way to get books other than scanning?
>>>
>>> I dont know Brail. so, please give suggestions other than getting
>>> books in brail format.
>>> thank you in advance
>>> there is nothing impossible except the word impossible.
>>>
>>>
>> --
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>> Milan Mittal
>> Mobile - +919910043004
>> Email ID - milan.mit...@yahoo.com
>> Skype - milan.mittal
>>
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Re: [AI] A request for reading the capcha codes

[Shona Man]

Can anybody send to me the webvisum invitation please?

On 2/28/12, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi pranav sir ,
> please try to explain the capability of NVDA to read captchas . are
> you talking about the experimental OCR plug in for NVDA portable? if
> yes then I got it yesterday but dont really know how to use it . try
> to explain all these things .
> regards
>
> On 2/28/12, mukesh jain  wrote:
>> hello,
>> if you have installed jaws 13 along with  OCR components, then bring
>> your kursor to the  field where capta need to be captured, press
>> insert plus space bar followed by the letter o and c you should hear
>> OCR started and once finished, you will hear OCR complete jaws kursor
>> and you will hear that code in the voice of jaws kursor. navigate
>> around with arrow key and you can hear that code. only problem with
>> this OCR method faced by me couple of time is that it does not read
>> the capta or skipps reading the code. don't know there is any settings
>> has to be made for accuracy but by repaeating this process in this
>> case works for me.
>> THANKS,
>> MUKESH.
>>
>> On 2/28/12, Sinoj  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>   How to focus captcha when using Jaws 13 OCR feature?
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>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Pranav Lal" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:47 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] A request for reading the capcha codes
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have had some success in using the Jaws version 13 OCR feature for
>>> reading
>>> captchas. The beta of NVDA has a similar feature so that may be worth
>>> trying.
>>>
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] Jaws Script for Yahoo Messanger

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula]

Dear Nautial,

Which version of Yahoo! Messenger & JAWS are you using? If you are on
latest, you wouldn't require any scripts for most of the functions. Please
download the latest from http://messenger.yahoo.com/

Please note in the new messenger, when you chat with more than one buddy,
multiple windows will not be opened and all windows will be opened in tabbed
environment and your can use CTRL + Tab to switch between the windows. Your
screen reader would notify when a new buddy pings you as the new tab gets
opened. 

Please feel free to write in to me if you have any questions. 

Good luck,
-Srinivasu

-Original Message-
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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:29 AM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Jaws Script for Yahoo Messanger

Hello dear members
Have a nice day to all of you.
Let me know, is there any Jaws Script for Yahoo Messenger?
If yes, kindly help me.

With Regards
B. R. Nautial
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Re: [AI] A request for giving the guidelines to creat a link & send it to others in email

[aliluhar]

hello, install dropbox from
www.dropbox.com
and creat acount there. put your files in the public folder of dropbox 
and when it will be uploaded the file will get the link. you can easly 
share the link to your friends. for mor help you can contact me.

On 29-Feb-12 12:02 AM, faisalraz mansuri wrote:

Hello sir, I'm FaisalRaza,
Sir I want to know that how can we creat a link and send it by email?
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mansurifaisal...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent ?

[Umesha Economics]

what is the difference between automatic and manual scanning?

Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "Milan Mittal" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent ?



hello list members,
1. you can try automatic scanning as it gives around 90% accuracy and
speedy as well. you can get it done from any organisation nearby your
place having this machine.
2. portable magnifiers like versa proves very benefitial for low
vision people when there is immediate requirement of checking /
reading document.
3. there is another device by the name zoom x where the book is placed
below a camera connected with the desktop / laptop and within few
seconds after a click, it starts reading the page.
hope that above mentioned things may prove benefitial for you.

On 2/27/12, Uma VR  wrote:

good evening friends,
I hope any of you can give me suggestions.
I have completed LL.B with utmost difficulty. now, my problem is with
regard to scanning all the law books. I am doing the scanning work on
my own. but, while coming to point of editing, I am having many
problems. there I need the help of the sighted. I found that there are
many errors in the text which I have scanned. it is very difficult for
me to do editing work on my own. but any way I am doing it.

now, my querry is how a VI advocate is able to scan and read all the
books. the reason why I ask this question is when someone asks us
about  any section, we have to refer to the particular book. i think
it is not possible for us to scan and keep with us all the books. if
at all we have scanned books with us, we have to do proof reading. it
is very difficult to do proof reading rather than doing scanning. I am
taking 45 minutes to edit one page and that too with great difficulty
by staining my eyes.

so, friends, please give me suggestions for the following
1. is there any way to get error free text after scanning and
converting it into text.
2. is there any efficient way of proof reading?
3. is there any other way to get books other than scanning?

I dont know Brail. so, please give suggestions other than getting
books in brail format.
thank you in advance
there is nothing impossible except the word impossible.



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Re: [AI] A request for giving the guidelines to creat a link & send it to others in email

[Umesha Economics]

what link you want to create? i.e. to which location you want your link to 
target?


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "faisalraz mansuri" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 February, 2012 12:02 AM
Subject: [AI] A request for giving the guidelines to creat a link & send it 
to others in email




Hello sir, I'm FaisalRaza,
Sir I want to know that how can we creat a link and send it by email?
You may email me for your suggestions at,
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Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

[Umesha Economics]

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Really I do not understand the double 
standard of these people. once the moderator says to everyone to stop blaming 
one another and another person says "OK, thats right" and in another mail he 
continues the same bad habit. if that is the case, what is the significance of 
moderator's comment? is it the respect that we give to his decision? 

Umesha

  - Original Message - 
  From: P. Subramani 
  To: Umesha Economics ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 10:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  First thing is you have business to talk about my quitting the group. As your 
abilities are exhausted,  pleading with the moderator is the last resort.
- Original Message - 
From: Umesha Economics 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


Dear moderator,
I think you must take some action in this case. it has crossed its limits.
let him quit the list and let us see all the others will leave the list as
he said.

Umesha

- Original Message -
From: "P. Subramani" 
To: "harish" ; 
Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2012 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although this group is not the
> ultimate, since it is storehouse, hence people come here for needful.
> Asking me to leave the group is  the other way of kicking me out of the
> group which is not expected from you  with the stature of being  the
> moderator. Rather than examining the matter impartially,  your solutions
> seems to be to throwout people.  You seem to be narrow-minded in saying
> the problem broughtout by me is the concern of only  me as an individual
> alone. This matter concerns the entire community which you haven't taken
> into consideration  and if the whole community fails to get solutions,
> then all must leave the group. You are definitely partial to some with
> their outbursts and pointing out mine. Since I  initiated this discussion,
> I shall have the last word. This threat should remain open for positive
> contributions.
>  - Original Message -
>  From: harish
>  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>  Hi All
>
>  Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her
> own
>  will.
>
>  At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer
>  for all problems of the disabled.
>
>  This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up
> at
>  any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.
>
>  You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes,
>  putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly
>  certainly helps.
>
>  All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your
>  outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your
>  expectation levels, you need not continue with it.
>
>  May we now put to rest this deviation?
>
>  Harish Kotian
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "P. Subramani" 
>  To: "Umesha Economics" ;
>  
>  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By
>  > mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in
> arms
>  > against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline
> doesn't
>  > indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the attention of
>  > why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as
>  > the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon. Also my mail
> is
>  > very clear and his age was mentioned as more details would be of help.
>  > Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, what
> about
>  > those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's comments
> that
>  > all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of the
> issue.
>  > Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of the
>  > delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary
> button
>  > and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not
>  > the person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main
>  > issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them.
>  > Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely and understand as
>  > well.
>  >  - Original Message -
  

Re: [AI] Ms Excel Help Auto Fill

[Umesha Economics]

OK, it is as follows:
1. type January in cell a1.
2. select cells a1 to a12 by pressing down arrow along with shift key or by 
typing the range value "a1:a12" in the go to dialog which can be obtained by 
pressing f5.

3. after selecting the cells, go to edit menu by pressing alt + e.
4. go to fill submenu by pressing I.
5. choose series option by pressing S. the series dialog appears.
6. choose autofill radio button by pressing alt + F.
press enter on OK button and you are done.

Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "krishan" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2012 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Ms Excel Help Auto Fill



respected sir ineed step by step titorial excel 2003:

On 2/27/12, Umesha Economics  wrote:
sorry for I forgot to tell you that my previous post to the thread 
applies

to excel 2003 only. I don't know about excel 7 or excel 10.
dear Merchant,
the procedure is almost the same as you said for filling the months like
january, February, etc. or weeks like Sunday, Monday, etc. as in your
previous procedure, instead of typing 1 in cell A1, type "january" or
Sunday" which ever you want. in the series dialog box, press alt+F to 
select
the autofill radio button and hit enter on OK button. that's all. you can 
do
it for any list of words other than months and weeks if you add them to 
your

custom lists in excel.

Umesha

- Original Message -
From: "Mujtaba Merchant" 
To: ; "Access India" 


Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Ms Excel Help Auto Fill



Hello Pavan,

I can help you with the auto fill of a series of numbers,  somehow I 
fail
to do the same with weeks or months, not sure why because the logic is 
the


same...

Anyway, here is the Auto Fill for a series of numbers.

In cell A1 type the number 1.
Stay focused on A1 and use the shift key and the down arrow to select
cells till A12
Then press these keys to bring up the autofill dialog box without
disturbing your selection.
Alt,E,I,S
This should bring up the series dialog box. Let the step value be 1. Tab
to the stop value and type in `12. Tab to the OK button and press enter.

If you have done everything as expected, you now should have cells from 
A1


to A12 filled with numbers from 1 to 12.

Here is how to do the same with virtual ribbons on in JAWS 12 or 13.

Follow the same steps to select the auto fill range.
Use the alt key to get to the Home tab in the ribbon.
Down arrow to Editing Submenu. Enter or Space bar on Fill button drop
down. Down arrow and hit enter on series...

Follow the same steps to define your step and stop value and complete 
the

auto fill function.

Other list members kindly teach us on how to auto fill months and weeks
please.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India



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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

[P. Subramani]

Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesDear Himanshu,  
Firstly, I am yet to get the relevant rules copy.  The railway people say this 
disqualification rule due to diabetes is universal (This I came to know only 
yesterday). I do agree with your at 1 & 2 non action is being initiated.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Himanshu Sahu 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


  Hello Mr. Subramani,

  According to me, the best way of finding solution to this chaos is to
  first ascertain whether physically fit person too can be disqualified
  on the basis of diabetes or not.

  If this is a universal rule for all categories of candidates then it
  should not be related specifically with VI community. In this case, we
  may be one of the victims, but not the exclusive one.

  Well, I don't have idea about the definition of "fit" applicable to
  all for getting selected for Gov. jobs. But this can be easily
  obtained through RTI and its finding should determine the next course
  of action.

  1.  If it is for all, then concentration should be put on discarding
  such rules through strong arguments in legal battle. One of such can
  be that "if person during service is not thrown out of job due to
  diabetes, then why not to appoint with it?"

  2.  And, if the rule is specially applied for VI candidate, then I
  don't think that it would stand in any court on the basis of
  "protection from discrimination".

  So, just proceed further and invest energy in setting things right.
  In my opinion, life's battle is not won by the support or comradeship
  of fellows, its your own determination which brings support and
  fellows for sharing success with you.


  On 2/27/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  > Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed the
  > said posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast
  > whether disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But after
  > due verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Asudani, Rajesh
  >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >   Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes
  >
  >
  >   Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for blind?
  >   If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than
  > alleged diabetes.
  >
  >
  >   -Original Message-
  >   From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
  >   Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
  >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >   Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes
  >
  >   Hi,
  >
  >   I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
  >   appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
  >   have changed the subject line.
  >
  >   First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
  >   on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
  >   applies to this case.
  >   We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
  >   such diseases .
  >
  >   Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
  >   disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
  >   if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
  >   shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.
  >
  >   You may hear more from legal experts.
  >
  >
  >   --
  >   G. Vamshi
  >   PH Res : +91 877-2243861
  >   Mobile: +91 9949349497
  >   E-mail ID:
  >   gvamsh...@gmail.com
  >   Skype: gvamshi81
  >
  >   www.retinaindia.org
  >   From darkness unto light
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >   On 2/18/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >   > A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
  > medical
  >   > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
  > Southwestern
  >   > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
  >   > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The
  > person
  >   > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all.
  > This
  >   > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
  >   >
  >   > Search for old postings at:
  >   > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
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Re: [AI] Recording of BGFI Monthly Program

[mahendra]

Dear Pinkesh

thank you very much for making us available the recording.
i hope, this will help many people to listen, enjoy and learn.
keep it up

At 04:39 PM 2/28/2012, you wrote:

Hello friends,

The Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) as part of its monthly program on
February 18, 2012 had an introductory talk on the Landmark Forum by Mr.
Sanjay Joshi, seminar leader for the Landmark Forum.  It was received well
and there was enthusiastic participation by the members present.  For the
benefit of all, you can listen to the recording from the link given below:


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2769848/landmark%20intro.mp3


The recording is of average quality, please bear with us.

Landmark Forum is always held on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Tuesday
evening.  It is presently available in more than 23 countries of the world
and more than 125 cities.  If anyone is interested in attending their
program or participating in an introductory session, you can get further
details from their website given below:


www.landmarkeducation.com

If the links does not work then, kindly copy and paste the same in
your brouser.

The next monthly program will be on Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 3:00 p.m. at
University Club House at B Road, Churchgate.  The topic is Hypnotism.  It is
open for all and all are wellcome.

Regards
Pinkesh Tailor
C: 9867711010


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Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet

[Mujtaba Merchant]

Hello Hozefa,

Which option did you use to resolve your issue? Please enlighten us all. Was 
the text in the same cell seperated by a space or was it with the numbers in 
the cell on the right or left? Was the text the same in all the cells etc.?
- Original Message - 
From: Hozefa Tambawala 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet


Thank you friends for your valuable suggestions.

On 2/28/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala  wrote:
> Oh Yes!
>
> that's so straight-forward. For example, if the cells contain 100MB,
> 200MB, 300MB, 400MB, etc then press CTRL+H to open the Find and
> Replace dialog box. Enter MB in the Find What edit combo and activate
> the Replace All button. Note the the string MB would be replaced all
> over the worksheet. If you do not wish to replace it all over the
> worksheet then select the cells using GoTo dialog box (CTRL+G) and
> then perform a Replace All.
>
> If you wish to retain the original strings then this is not the right
> option.
>
> Thanks Zoher for telling the list about the easiest way of purging a
> known string from a number of places in the worksheet.
>
> On 2/28/12, zoher  wrote:
>> if the  characters are same in text and number then why to use a formula,
>> just use find and replace command.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" 
>> To: "Mujtaba Merchant" ;
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mujtaba,
>>>
>>> The RIGHT() function returns a text string, you should use the VALUE()
>>> function to get a numeric equivalent for a numeric calculation. For
>>> example, changing your formula to the following is good for numeric
>>> calculations:
>>>
>>> =VALUE(RIGHT(A1, 3))
>>>
>>> Also, the LEFT() and RIGHT() functions are good when you have a fixed
>>> number of characters to extract and the characters to purge are
>>> distinct. The above formula would not produce correct results for the
>>> following set of values:
>>>
>>> BA12 - (RIGHT function returns A12)
>>> CSG2290 - (RIGHT function returns 290)
>>> A7 - (RIGHT function returns A7)
>>>
>>> It's better to use the SUBSTITUTE() function if the string to purge is
>>> known:
>>>
>>> =SUBSTITUTE(A1, "MB", "")
>>>
>>> where A1 contains a value 241MB.
>>>
>>> The limitation of the SUBSTITUTE() function is that it would produce
>>> incorrect results if copied for cells with distinct string values to
>>> purge.
>>>
>>> One more option is to use the MID() function. This function returns a
>>> string containing number of characters from a specific position. For
>>> example, the below function returns 123:
>>>
>>> =MID("ALLL123large", 4, 3)
>>>
>>> If the strings to purge are distinct and you know the length then use
>>> REPLACE() function. For example:
>>>
>>> =REPLACE("MUM230", 4, 3) returns 230.
>>> =REPLACE("MUM230RS", 4, 3) also returns 230.
>>>
>>> The limitation of REPLACE() function when copying it is that the
>>> strings to pirge should be of the same length and start at the same
>>> position.
>>>
>>> The use of these functions depends on the situation you are in. For
>>> single values, they always produce the desired result.
>>>
>>> On 2/28/12, Mujtaba Merchant  wrote:
 Hello Hozefa,

 Too challenging for me to answer your question but here is an attempt
 which
 might work. I urge you to practise this first on a new excel workbook
 before
 you apply it to the original file in concern.

 I am assuming that the text is before or after the numbers and not in
 between them in the column cells. Depending on the case that the numbers
 are
 on the right and are of the same number of characters i.e. that the
 numbers
 have the same number of digits.

 In the cell A1 to A3, type the following:
 BAn 122
 CAL 586
 BOM 856

 In the column B cell row 1 type this formula:
 =right(A1,3)
 Now see what you get in cell B1, if you have done everything correctly
 you
 should see just the number from the cell A1 which is 122. In the formula
 above the number 3 indicates the count of characters from the right from
 the
 cell referenced which is A1 in this case.

 Perhaps this logic can be used to help you to do the sum for the column?

 Mujtaba Merchant
 Bangalore, India

 - Original Message -
 From: Hozefa Tambawala
 To: Accessindia
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:18 PM
 Subject: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet


 Dear friends,

 I have an excel file in which columns A to c are filled. Now I want to
 calculate the sum of B column. But that column contains both Alfa and
 numeric characters. When I calculated the sum of B column, it
 displayed the value as zero. So anybody has an idea how to remove 

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

[P. Subramani]

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!First thing is you have business to talk 
about my quitting the group. As your abilities are exhausted,  pleading with 
the moderator is the last resort.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Umesha Economics 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  Dear moderator,
  I think you must take some action in this case. it has crossed its limits.
  let him quit the list and let us see all the others will leave the list as
  he said.

  Umesha

  - Original Message -
  From: "P. Subramani" 
  To: "harish" ; 
  Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2012 10:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although this group is not the
  > ultimate, since it is storehouse, hence people come here for needful.
  > Asking me to leave the group is  the other way of kicking me out of the
  > group which is not expected from you  with the stature of being  the
  > moderator. Rather than examining the matter impartially,  your solutions
  > seems to be to throwout people.  You seem to be narrow-minded in saying
  > the problem broughtout by me is the concern of only  me as an individual
  > alone. This matter concerns the entire community which you haven't taken
  > into consideration  and if the whole community fails to get solutions,
  > then all must leave the group. You are definitely partial to some with
  > their outbursts and pointing out mine. Since I  initiated this discussion,
  > I shall have the last word. This threat should remain open for positive
  > contributions.
  >  - Original Message -
  >  From: harish
  >  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >  Hi All
  >
  >  Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her
  > own
  >  will.
  >
  >  At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer
  >  for all problems of the disabled.
  >
  >  This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up
  > at
  >  any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.
  >
  >  You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes,
  >  putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly
  >  certainly helps.
  >
  >  All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your
  >  outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your
  >  expectation levels, you need not continue with it.
  >
  >  May we now put to rest this deviation?
  >
  >  Harish Kotian
  >
  >  - Original Message -
  >  From: "P. Subramani" 
  >  To: "Umesha Economics" ;
  >  
  >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By
  >  > mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in
  > arms
  >  > against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline
  > doesn't
  >  > indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the attention of
  >  > why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as
  >  > the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon. Also my mail
  > is
  >  > very clear and his age was mentioned as more details would be of help.
  >  > Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, what
  > about
  >  > those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's comments
  > that
  >  > all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of the
  > issue.
  >  > Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of the
  >  > delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary
  > button
  >  > and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not
  >  > the person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main
  >  > issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them.
  >  > Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely and understand as
  >  > well.
  >  >  - Original Message -
  >  >  From: Umesha Economics
  >  >  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >  >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
  >  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >  dear friends,
  >  >  sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you
  > to
  >  >  modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from
  >  > 11:50
  >  >  am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message
  > body
  >  >  and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments,
  >  > there
  >  >  may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
  >  >  problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up
  > to
  >  > the
  >  >  real

Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

[P. Subramani]

Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIn reply to the 
second point, disqualification on the basis of diabetes for all and not limited 
to the VI. To your third point, once disqualified due to diabetes, no question 
of giving alternative jobs. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pankaj Kwatra 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


  Hello All,

  Medical examination is done for various jobs and stringent norms are in
  place for some jobs. The question arising are:

  1. Job actually reserved for VI plus number of vacancies.
  2. Whether any person can be disqualified on basis of diabetes or it is
  the case of VI only.
  3. If disqualified for particular job then some other option can be
  offered.

  Please gather maximum information via RTI and decide course of action.

  THX
  Pankaj 

  -Original Message-
  From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu
  Sahu
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
  diabetes

  Hello Mr. Subramani,

  According to me, the best way of finding solution to this chaos is to
  first ascertain whether physically fit person too can be disqualified
  on the basis of diabetes or not.

  If this is a universal rule for all categories of candidates then it
  should not be related specifically with VI community. In this case, we
  may be one of the victims, but not the exclusive one.

  Well, I don't have idea about the definition of "fit" applicable to
  all for getting selected for Gov. jobs. But this can be easily
  obtained through RTI and its finding should determine the next course
  of action.

  1.  If it is for all, then concentration should be put on discarding
  such rules through strong arguments in legal battle. One of such can
  be that "if person during service is not thrown out of job due to
  diabetes, then why not to appoint with it?"

  2.  And, if the rule is specially applied for VI candidate, then I
  don't think that it would stand in any court on the basis of
  "protection from discrimination".

  So, just proceed further and invest energy in setting things right.
  In my opinion, life's battle is not won by the support or comradeship
  of fellows, its your own determination which brings support and
  fellows for sharing success with you.


  On 2/27/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  > Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed
  the
  > said posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast
  > whether disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But
  after
  > due verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Asudani, Rajesh
  >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >   Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
  diabetes
  >
  >
  >   Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for
  blind?
  >   If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than
  > alleged diabetes.
  >
  >
  >   -Original Message-
  >   From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
  > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
  >   Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
  >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >   Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
  diabetes
  >
  >   Hi,
  >
  >   I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
  >   appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence
  I
  >   have changed the subject line.
  >
  >   First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
  >   on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
  >   applies to this case.
  >   We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground
  of
  >   such diseases .
  >
  >   Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has
  been
  >   disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
  >   if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
  >   shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.
  >
  >   You may hear more from legal experts.
  >
  >
  >   --
  >   G. Vamshi
  >   PH Res : +91 877-2243861
  >   Mobile: +91 9949349497
  >   E-mail ID:
  >   gvamsh...@gmail.com
  >   Skype: gvamshi81
  >
  >   www.retinaindia.org
  >   From darkness unto light
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >   On 2/18/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >   > A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
  > medical
  >   > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
  > Southwestern
  >   > Railways. I see

Re: [AI] Moderator: RE: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

[P. Subramani]

[AI] Moderator: RE: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!OK, that's right.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kotian, H P 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:58 AM
  Subject: [AI] Moderator: RE: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  Hello All

  Please stop all this needless bickering. No need to challenge anyone. Lets 
get to work.
  Harish Kotian.
  Moderator
  har...@accessindia.org.in



  -Original Message-
  From: Umesha Economics [mailto:umesha@gmail.com]
  Sent: 28 February 2012 07:56
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

  Dear moderator,
  I think you must take some action in this case. it has crossed its limits.
  let him quit the list and let us see all the others will leave the list as
  he said.

  Umesha

  - Original Message -
  From: "P. Subramani" 
  To: "harish" ; 
  Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2012 10:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although this group is not the
  > ultimate, since it is storehouse, hence people come here for needful.
  > Asking me to leave the group is  the other way of kicking me out of the
  > group which is not expected from you  with the stature of being  the
  > moderator. Rather than examining the matter impartially,  your solutions
  > seems to be to throwout people.  You seem to be narrow-minded in saying
  > the problem broughtout by me is the concern of only  me as an individual
  > alone. This matter concerns the entire community which you haven't taken
  > into consideration  and if the whole community fails to get solutions,
  > then all must leave the group. You are definitely partial to some with
  > their outbursts and pointing out mine. Since I  initiated this discussion,
  > I shall have the last word. This threat should remain open for positive
  > contributions.
  >  - Original Message -
  >  From: harish
  >  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >  Hi All
  >
  >  Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her
  > own
  >  will.
  >
  >  At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer
  >  for all problems of the disabled.
  >
  >  This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up
  > at
  >  any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.
  >
  >  You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes,
  >  putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly
  >  certainly helps.
  >
  >  All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your
  >  outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your
  >  expectation levels, you need not continue with it.
  >
  >  May we now put to rest this deviation?
  >
  >  Harish Kotian
  >
  >  - Original Message -
  >  From: "P. Subramani" 
  >  To: "Umesha Economics" ;
  >  
  >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By
  >  > mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in
  > arms
  >  > against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline
  > doesn't
  >  > indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the attention of
  >  > why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as
  >  > the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon. Also my mail
  > is
  >  > very clear and his age was mentioned as more details would be of help.
  >  > Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, what
  > about
  >  > those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's comments
  > that
  >  > all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of the
  > issue.
  >  > Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of the
  >  > delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary
  > button
  >  > and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not
  >  > the person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main
  >  > issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them.
  >  > Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely and understand as
  >  > well.
  >  >  - Original Message -
  >  >  From: Umesha Economics
  >  >  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >  >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
  >  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >  dear friends,
  >  >  sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you
  > to
  >  >  modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from
  >  > 11:50
  >  >  am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message
  > body
  >  >  and making the reading 

Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet

[Hozefa Tambawala]

Thank you friends for your valuable suggestions.

On 2/28/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala  wrote:
> Oh Yes!
>
> that's so straight-forward. For example, if the cells contain 100MB,
> 200MB, 300MB, 400MB, etc then press CTRL+H to open the Find and
> Replace dialog box. Enter MB in the Find What edit combo and activate
> the Replace All button. Note the the string MB would be replaced all
> over the worksheet. If you do not wish to replace it all over the
> worksheet then select the cells using GoTo dialog box (CTRL+G) and
> then perform a Replace All.
>
> If you wish to retain the original strings then this is not the right
> option.
>
> Thanks Zoher for telling the list about the easiest way of purging a
> known string from a number of places in the worksheet.
>
> On 2/28/12, zoher  wrote:
>> if the  characters are same in text and number then why to use a formula,
>> just use find and replace command.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" 
>> To: "Mujtaba Merchant" ;
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mujtaba,
>>>
>>> The RIGHT() function returns a text string, you should use the VALUE()
>>> function to get a numeric equivalent for a numeric calculation. For
>>> example, changing your formula to the following is good for numeric
>>> calculations:
>>>
>>> =VALUE(RIGHT(A1, 3))
>>>
>>> Also, the LEFT() and RIGHT() functions are good when you have a fixed
>>> number of characters to extract and the characters to purge are
>>> distinct. The above formula would not produce correct results for the
>>> following set of values:
>>>
>>> BA12 - (RIGHT function returns A12)
>>> CSG2290 - (RIGHT function returns 290)
>>> A7 - (RIGHT function returns A7)
>>>
>>> It's better to use the SUBSTITUTE() function if the string to purge is
>>> known:
>>>
>>> =SUBSTITUTE(A1, "MB", "")
>>>
>>> where A1 contains a value 241MB.
>>>
>>> The limitation of the SUBSTITUTE() function is that it would produce
>>> incorrect results if copied for cells with distinct string values to
>>> purge.
>>>
>>> One more option is to use the MID() function. This function returns a
>>> string containing number of characters from a specific position. For
>>> example, the below function returns 123:
>>>
>>> =MID("ALLL123large", 4, 3)
>>>
>>> If the strings to purge are distinct and you know the length then use
>>> REPLACE() function. For example:
>>>
>>> =REPLACE("MUM230", 4, 3) returns 230.
>>> =REPLACE("MUM230RS", 4, 3) also returns 230.
>>>
>>> The limitation of REPLACE() function when copying it is that the
>>> strings to pirge should be of the same length and start at the same
>>> position.
>>>
>>> The use of these functions depends on the situation you are in. For
>>> single values, they always produce the desired result.
>>>
>>> On 2/28/12, Mujtaba Merchant  wrote:
 Hello Hozefa,

 Too challenging for me to answer your question but here is an attempt
 which
 might work. I urge you to practise this first on a new excel workbook
 before
 you apply it to the original file in concern.

 I am assuming that the text is before or after the numbers and not in
 between them in the column cells. Depending on the case that the numbers
 are
 on the right and are of the same number of characters i.e. that the
 numbers
 have the same number of digits.

 In the cell A1 to A3, type the following:
 BAn 122
 CAL 586
 BOM 856

 In the column B cell row 1 type this formula:
 =right(A1,3)
 Now see what you get in cell B1, if you have done everything correctly
 you
 should see just the number from the cell A1 which is 122. In the formula
 above the number 3 indicates the count of characters from the right from
 the
 cell referenced which is A1 in this case.

 Perhaps this logic can be used to help you to do the sum for the column?

 Mujtaba Merchant
 Bangalore, India

 - Original Message -
 From: Hozefa Tambawala
 To: Accessindia
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:18 PM
 Subject: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet


 Dear friends,

 I have an excel file in which columns A to c are filled. Now I want to
 calculate the sum of B column. But that column contains both Alfa and
 numeric characters. When I calculated the sum of B column, it
 displayed the value as zero. So anybody has an idea how to remove Alfa
 characters at once from the particular column and multiple rows?

 --
 "Life is like a piano.
 White keys are happy moments
 & Black keys are sad moments.
 But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music."

 "Focus on your abilities, not your disability."

 Warm Regards,
 Have a nice day

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[AI] Recording of BGFI Monthly Program

[Pinkesh Tailor]

Hello friends,

The Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) as part of its monthly program on
February 18, 2012 had an introductory talk on the Landmark Forum by Mr.
Sanjay Joshi, seminar leader for the Landmark Forum.  It was received well
and there was enthusiastic participation by the members present.  For the
benefit of all, you can listen to the recording from the link given below:


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2769848/landmark%20intro.mp3


The recording is of average quality, please bear with us.

Landmark Forum is always held on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Tuesday
evening.  It is presently available in more than 23 countries of the world
and more than 125 cities.  If anyone is interested in attending their
program or participating in an introductory session, you can get further
details from their website given below:


www.landmarkeducation.com

If the links does not work then, kindly copy and paste the same in
your brouser.

The next monthly program will be on Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 3:00 p.m. at
University Club House at B Road, Churchgate.  The topic is Hypnotism.  It is
open for all and all are wellcome.

Regards
Pinkesh Tailor
C: 9867711010


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Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded

[Dinesh]

please read the earlier emails before replying. It's my humble request. 
Saksham has been referred by someone already. and also someone said that 
phone has no memory and it's saying the caller name only once.


- Original Message - 
From: "balondhe" 

To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded



Please contact to Saksham or visit:
www.saksham.org
- Original Message - 
From: "Surendra Salgaonkar)" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:46 AM
Subject: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded


Dear ones i need above instrument.if anyone know about please let me 
know...

Thank you and good luck!Surendra Salgaonkar
mobile
+919867645933
skype
salgaonkarskype
email
salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com



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Re: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail

[Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala]

I missed to tell in the earlier email that in the Basic HTML view when you
read message body word by word (by pressing CTRL+RIGHT or CTRL+LEFT) JAWS
speaks misspelt when it comes across an incorrectly spelled word.

Best Regards,
Zujar

An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh...


-Original Message-
From: Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala [mailto:zujarbri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:45 PM
To: 'zoher'; 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in'
Subject: RE: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail

If you are using the browser for checking and composing emails then I have
seen an option called "Check Spelling" in the Standard View of gmail. This
option is present above the message textbox of the Compose Email form. Key
in your message content in the textbox and activate this link. You would
hear JAWS speak out identified words that need be corrected. These words are
highlighted with a yellow background for sighted users to catch attention.
With JAWS we need to check the background colour with the help of INSERT+5.
This option is not as intuitive as the spell check utility of Ms Word,
though can be helpful to identify places where correction is required.

Best Regards,
Zujar

An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh...


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of zoher
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail

one thing can be done, type the mail in m.s. word and use spell chek and cut

and paist it in the type e mail window. hope it will solve your problem.
- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh baviskar" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:51 PM
Subject: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail


> Dear Friends,
> I want to know how to check spellings online in gmail like windows
> live mail before sending mails to avoide spellings mistakes in
> messages. Waiting for your guidance soon. Thank you.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Mukesh Baviskar
> Mobile: 9403161157
>
>
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Re: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail

[Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala]

If you are using the browser for checking and composing emails then I have
seen an option called "Check Spelling" in the Standard View of gmail. This
option is present above the message textbox of the Compose Email form. Key
in your message content in the textbox and activate this link. You would
hear JAWS speak out identified words that need be corrected. These words are
highlighted with a yellow background for sighted users to catch attention.
With JAWS we need to check the background colour with the help of INSERT+5.
This option is not as intuitive as the spell check utility of Ms Word,
though can be helpful to identify places where correction is required.

Best Regards,
Zujar

An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh...


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of zoher
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail

one thing can be done, type the mail in m.s. word and use spell chek and cut

and paist it in the type e mail window. hope it will solve your problem.
- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh baviskar" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:51 PM
Subject: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail


> Dear Friends,
> I want to know how to check spellings online in gmail like windows
> live mail before sending mails to avoide spellings mistakes in
> messages. Waiting for your guidance soon. Thank you.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Mukesh Baviskar
> Mobile: 9403161157
>
>
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Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent?

[Umesha Economics]

good afternoon Uma,
OK, your hardware configuration is sufficient. the resolution is also ideal. 
but let me know one thing, how do you edit the text after converting with 
fine reader? because, with fine reader, we can get either of RTF, PDF or TXT 
outputs as per my knowledge. if you get it in RTF or TXT, you will be having 
the text but not the images. in that case, you have to look into the 
original printed material for correction. if you get it in PDF, you get the 
images but not the text and you can not read and edit it. that is why I 
prefer Kurzweil for scanning purposes. also send the scanned book without 
correction. but remember you have to send it privately off the list or 
through dropbox or sendspace as the attachments are not allowed in the list.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "Uma VR" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: [AI] how a VI can be independent?



good morning friends,
I am using HP scan Z 2400 for scanning and Abby fine reader (10
version) for conversion.
the configuration of my hard disc is 500 GB with 4GB RAM.
the resolution set up is 300, the brightness is 50%
if you want, I can send you the copy of scanned images also.
thank you in advance


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Re: [AI] karthik chandrasekar - Employment/screen readers

[Shadab Husain]

Hi Karthik,

I will reply you in points because then it would be easy for me to write.

Point 1. Get yourself registered in employment exchange.

Point 2. Contact NGOs of your place for guidance.

Point 3. Download (NVDA) a free screen reader from
http://space.dl.sourceforge.net/project/nvda/releases/2011.3/nvda_2011.3_installer.exe


Point 4. In case you face problems in doing the points I have
mentioned, write here in points.

Regards,
Shadab
PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.com



Regards,
Shadab

On 2/28/12, Dinesh  wrote:
> you've to give us full details first. are you a blind? are you an
> orthopedically handicapped? why you cannot walk?
> - Original Message -
> From: "karthik chandrasekar" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:34 PM
> Subject: [AI] (no subject)
>
>
>> hello sir i am karthik i can't walk i have completed my mphil  i am
>> looking
>> for a job for a long time i need a speech recagnision software to improve
>> my speed but my voice won't be clear it will be very useful for me to get
>> a
>> job how much will it cost will it be cheap
>>
>> --
>> karthik
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Re: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded

[balondhe]

Please contact to Saksham or visit:
www.saksham.org
- Original Message - 
From: "Surendra Salgaonkar)" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:46 AM
Subject: [AI] Landline phone with caller ID pronouncer neded


Dear ones i need above instrument.if anyone know about please let me 
know...

Thank you and good luck!Surendra Salgaonkar
mobile
+919867645933
skype
salgaonkarskype
email
salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com



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Re: [AI] help regarding 80 d

[Umesha Economics]

Sir,
Why is it so? when basic plans fetche the concession, why not the combo 
plans which are meant for the same use. I know you are not the authority who 
make the rules, but thought of discussing the logic. at the same time, do 
you have the relevant circular? if so please give me a copy.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2012 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] help regarding 80 d



Dear Umesha
Your approach is good, I too believe in not presuming a denial unless 
specifically provided for in black and white.
However, in the case of concession in 299 combo, I am afraid you got the 
advantage of BSNL official not being able to produce the relevant circular 
which mentions concession only in the basic plan...



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Umesha 
Economics

Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:51 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] help regarding 80 d d

ask him to refer to the income tax department web site and go to income 
tax

act section. I can upload the document for you if needed. but let us also
give some work to those who create hindrance to us. these things are 
common

everywhere and people are very much out dated and do not have the proper
information about the latest provisions for the disabled. they are not 
even

interested to update themselves about these things. distressing thing is
that they are also stubborn and don't listen to others if not updated. ask
him where it is written as 5. a similar thing happened to me once in
bsnl. the person said me that blind concession is not available for 299
combo plan. I asked him to show me the document where it is written that 
it

is not applicable to the said plan. he was unable to do it and finally
yielded. we have to be assertive some times while getting our privileges.
otherwise they will make us to wander here and there in search of 
circulars,

government orders, and other documents and they will sit comfortably in
their armchair. we have to make those people to work, at least to some
extent. hence our difficulties will be reduced. if all this is not 
possible,

write me back and I will send it to you.

Umesha

 Original Message -
From: "padmanabham" 
To: "access india" 
Sent: Friday, 24 February, 2012 9:50 PM
Subject: [AI] help regarding 80 d d



Hello Friends,
I am badly in need of 80 dd full text which enables me to sho my drawing
officer to get i t exemption. I approached my d d o and explained that an
assessi who have a civerely disabled dependent is entitled to get i t
exemption up to Rs. one lacke.
But he is contending that the above maximum limit is Rs. 50 thousand 
only.

and he asked me to produce the full document in which the limit was
enhanced up to one lack.
Hence i request you to provide the same as it is urgent to me.
Thanks in anticipation
   Padmanabham Muppa.

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Re: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail

[zoher]

one thing can be done, type the mail in m.s. word and use spell chek and cut 
and paist it in the type e mail window. hope it will solve your problem.
- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh baviskar" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:51 PM
Subject: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail



Dear Friends,
I want to know how to check spellings online in gmail like windows
live mail before sending mails to avoide spellings mistakes in
messages. Waiting for your guidance soon. Thank you.


Regards

Mukesh Baviskar
Mobile: 9403161157


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Re: [AI] How check spellings on line in gmail

[aliluhar]

hello, are you using any email client? if yes, which one, so that anyone 
including me can guide you.

regards.

On 28-Feb-12 6:51 PM, mukesh baviskar wrote:

Dear Friends,
I want to know how to check spellings online in gmail like windows
live mail before sending mails to avoide spellings mistakes in
messages. Waiting for your guidance soon. Thank you.


Regards

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[AI] Sikkim gets 5 gold in National Games for all Disabilities

[avinash shahi]

URL 
http://haalkhabar.in/2012/02/22/sikkim-gets-5-gold-in-national-games-for-all-disabilities/
Sikkim gets 5 gold in National Games for all Disabilities
Posted by HK Report On February - 22 - 2012Gangtok, February 22:
Sikkim has won five gold medals at the ongoing National Games for all
Disabilities at Chennai, press release said here today. In athletics,
Pema Gurung and Shibu Chettri bagged the gold and silver medal,
respectively while in bocce [individual] Sourya Sikhwal and Manish
Dhakal bagged the gold and silver medal, respectively, the release
informs. In badminton, Arati Chettri and Pawan Rai bagged the gold
medal in mixed doubles while Arati Chettri bagged the bronze medal in
girls  singles. In PCI- Visually Impaired category, Dhurba Pradhan won
gold in 100m Race, Madan Chettri won gold in 100m Race and silver in
200m Race while Shiva Kr Chettri won silver in 100m Race, the release
mentions. The National Games for all Disabilities started in Chennai
on Feb 17 and will end today, the release ended. (PTI)



-- 
"The best things and most beautiful things in the world Cannot be seen
or even touched. They must be felt within the heart."  -- Helen Keller

Avinash Shahi
M.A. Political Science
CPS JNU
New Delhi India


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Re: [AI] Ground Reality

[Rakesh]

A similar kind of post. Hope more people come to know the ground facts. 
Try posting on facebook, twitter as more likely to be observed by 
non-disabled community.

http://accessibilityindia.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/now-its-the-turn-of-airlines/
Thanks & Regards
Rakesh
On 28-02-2012 18:08, Vamshi. G wrote:

Hi,

I would like to narrate my contribution to raise awareness amongst the
non-disabled community about our issues.  On prominant days like
international day for PWDs, Braille day, white cane day, etc.,  I
write a one paper message about the importance of such days and
circulate it along with a chocolate in my office which has around 100
employees.  Now all my colleagues know about  issues like this.  So,
along with governments and NGOs, every individual should take some
activity  or other to raise awareness in his/her own small worlds.

This has another advantage.  Some of us complain that colleagues are
not sensitive to disabled.  Programs like this will help to a great
extent in getting help from people around us.




On 2/28/12, Vamshi. G  wrote:

Is this article published in the main stream society?  I think it's
more important to publish pieces like this in the press, instead of
posting on fora like ours.
Since this is posted on a public forum, will any print media accept to
publish this?

On 2/28/12, avinash shahi  wrote:

Spot on!
Written from the core of heart and mind both.
Thank you Shruti for sharing with us.
Hats off to Shampa Sengupta lady activist.
We need more such writings in mainstream to brodden our movement and
open well of people's eyes.





On 2/28/12, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre  wrote:

This article is written by Shampa Sengupta, a Kolkata based activist
working on gender and disability issues. As Indian disability sector is
upset with several cases of discrimination faced by disabled passengers
in
the air, she ponders whether as activists the issues of masses are being
overlooked which makes the movement more for the selected few.


All of us who work for disability rights were enraged at the news of
treatment meted out to fellow activist Jeeja Ghosh by Spicejet Airlines
when she was flying to attend an International seminar from Kolkata to
Goa.
Media played a vital role and gave ample coverage to the incident
screaming
loud that such behaviour with disabled passengers is totally unbecoming.
In solidarity, different groups came together to organise a protest
meeting
in Jeeja’s own city Kolkata. National level rights based groups raised
hue
and cry. And for a change, to our satisfaction, we came to know that our
newly appointed Chief Commissioner of Disabilities of India took
suo-motu
action and issued a show-cause notice based on media reports to the
concerned airlines.

However the question here is not that of one Jeeja Ghosh or one specific
airline. We all know of similar cases in past. Some of them got media
coverage and some of them did not get any.  When activists face these
kinds
of situations, they raise their voices. Some of these make news
headlines,
some do not. However, large numbers of cases remain unreported.  So one
does not feel surprised when within few days of Jeeja Ghosh incident,
another disabled activist Anjlee Agarwal faces humiliation while flying
from Delhi to Raipur.  We are aware that these experiences are part of
lives of disabled people.  We are proud that Jeeja and Anjlee have the
guts
to put up the fight. The disability sector of India has also started
looking at civil aviation policies and rules once again, started
discussing
and demanding changes that should be incorporated. It is ironical that
both
Jeeja and Anjlee work for including disability in mainstream with one of
them focusing on accessible environment.  It is humiliating and painful
for
any disabled person to face this while travelling by air.

But a greater irony is the fact that we are forgetting the large number
of
disabled population who  face harassment in travelling by any mode of
transport on a regular basis. And here I am not talking about physical
accessibility of buses, metro, trains, trams or any other public
transport.
I am talking about the attitudinal barriers they face when they try to
use
public transport.  It is important to remember here that thousands of
disabled people in India do not even dream of boarding an aircraft in
their
life-time. One does not have to be an activist to know that poverty and
disability go hand in hand. While most of us spending our time in
thinking
of making “skies” inclusive, let us give some time to make the ground
below
our feet more inclusive.

Endless cases are heard about attitudinal barriers disabled people face
while travelling in a bus. Only once we could make it to a newspaper
headlines. Bidyut Dey, a 50 yr old man with amputed leg was thrown out
of
a
Government bus as he said he has the right to travel without tickets.
Dey
himself a West Bengal Government employee is an organiser of sports of
disabled people. He travels all over I

Re: [AI] (no subject)

[Dinesh]

you've to give us full details first. are you a blind? are you an 
orthopedically handicapped? why you cannot walk?
- Original Message - 
From: "karthik chandrasekar" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:34 PM
Subject: [AI] (no subject)


hello sir i am karthik i can't walk i have completed my mphil  i am 
looking

for a job for a long time i need a speech recagnision software to improve
my speed but my voice won't be clear it will be very useful for me to get 
a

job how much will it cost will it be cheap

--
karthik

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[AI] Confused Re: bsnl concession

[Umesha Economics]

Dear friends,
I am totally confused. Rajesh Sir said we cannot get concession for combo 
plans. but Padmanabham says we can. which is correct? I think the following 
is the fact.
for basic plans where internet and voice call service are charged 
separately, we can avail 50% discount in rental for voice call plan and 20% 
discount for broadband charges. and for combo plans, only 20% discount on 
the plan. I do not know whether it is for broadband rent only or even for 
additional charges for the usage in excess of free usage. these are my guess 
only based on logic. please any member clarify it preferably with relevant 
circular/notification/orders.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "bhawani shankar verma" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] bsnl concession


you can avail both. but, 50% discount only in basic rental and 20% in 
broadband charges. this will not apply any other plans like combo packs.


- Original Message - 
From: "padmanabham" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] bsnl concession



is itd? surprise.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ashik" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] bsnl concession


As a matter of fact, I avail both of them--50 % discount in the rent and 
20% in the charges of the internet.

- - -
Ashik Hirani
Landline phone: 02849-242233
Skype: ashikali.hirani
I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dinesh" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] bsnl concession



no no. as far as I'm aware, you can avail only one concession.
- Original Message - 
From: "Renuka Warriar" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:42 AM
Subject: [AI] bsnl concession



Hi,
Can a blind person avail concession in the rent and 20% concession to
the internet connection together?
Renuka.


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Re: [AI] External rechargeable charger

[Umesha Economics]

Hi Imran,
they are called external laptop battery packs. I am also searching for 
buying it. I have seen them in internet but as I enquired in some shops in 
Bangalore I din't get it. please anybody suggest where can we buy them and 
about their performance.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "SYED IMRAN" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: [AI] External rechargeable charger



Hi



An external rechargeable charger comes handy when you are travelling and
suddenly realise that your phone or laptop is warning that it's running 
low

on battery and you have no access to the power source either. I'm thinking
of getting a pocket rechargeable charger for myself. Anyone using this
device already?





Thanks

Syed


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[AI] (no subject)

[karthik chandrasekar]

hello sir i am karthik i can't walk i have completed my mphil  i am looking
for a job for a long time i need a speech recagnision software to improve
my speed but my voice won't be clear it will be very useful for me to get a
job how much will it cost will it be cheap

-- 
karthik

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Re: [AI] Ground Reality

[avinash shahi]

Hi Mr Vamshi
I meant, not this, but in future many more like this pieces should be
published in the mainstream Newspapers and journals. But its not easy
to get published anyway! untill members from our own community hold
power to allowing publishing of such beauties.



On 2/28/12, Vamshi. G  wrote:
> Is this article published in the main stream society?  I think it's
> more important to publish pieces like this in the press, instead of
> posting on fora like ours.
> Since this is posted on a public forum, will any print media accept to
> publish this?
>
> On 2/28/12, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Spot on!
>> Written from the core of heart and mind both.
>> Thank you Shruti for sharing with us.
>> Hats off to Shampa Sengupta lady activist.
>> We need more such writings in mainstream to brodden our movement and
>> open well of people's eyes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/12, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre  wrote:
>>> This article is written by Shampa Sengupta, a Kolkata based activist
>>> working on gender and disability issues. As Indian disability sector is
>>> upset with several cases of discrimination faced by disabled passengers
>>> in
>>> the air, she ponders whether as activists the issues of masses are being
>>> overlooked which makes the movement more for the selected few.
>>>
>>>
>>> All of us who work for disability rights were enraged at the news of
>>> treatment meted out to fellow activist Jeeja Ghosh by Spicejet Airlines
>>> when she was flying to attend an International seminar from Kolkata to
>>> Goa.
>>> Media played a vital role and gave ample coverage to the incident
>>> screaming
>>> loud that such behaviour with disabled passengers is totally unbecoming.
>>> In solidarity, different groups came together to organise a protest
>>> meeting
>>> in Jeeja’s own city Kolkata. National level rights based groups raised
>>> hue
>>> and cry. And for a change, to our satisfaction, we came to know that our
>>> newly appointed Chief Commissioner of Disabilities of India took suo-motu
>>> action and issued a show-cause notice based on media reports to the
>>> concerned airlines.
>>>
>>> However the question here is not that of one Jeeja Ghosh or one specific
>>> airline. We all know of similar cases in past. Some of them got media
>>> coverage and some of them did not get any.  When activists face these
>>> kinds
>>> of situations, they raise their voices. Some of these make news
>>> headlines,
>>> some do not. However, large numbers of cases remain unreported.  So one
>>> does not feel surprised when within few days of Jeeja Ghosh incident,
>>> another disabled activist Anjlee Agarwal faces humiliation while flying
>>> from Delhi to Raipur.  We are aware that these experiences are part of
>>> lives of disabled people.  We are proud that Jeeja and Anjlee have the
>>> guts
>>> to put up the fight. The disability sector of India has also started
>>> looking at civil aviation policies and rules once again, started
>>> discussing
>>> and demanding changes that should be incorporated. It is ironical that
>>> both
>>> Jeeja and Anjlee work for including disability in mainstream with one of
>>> them focusing on accessible environment.  It is humiliating and painful
>>> for
>>> any disabled person to face this while travelling by air.
>>>
>>> But a greater irony is the fact that we are forgetting the large number
>>> of
>>> disabled population who  face harassment in travelling by any mode of
>>> transport on a regular basis. And here I am not talking about physical
>>> accessibility of buses, metro, trains, trams or any other public
>>> transport.
>>> I am talking about the attitudinal barriers they face when they try to
>>> use
>>> public transport.  It is important to remember here that thousands of
>>> disabled people in India do not even dream of boarding an aircraft in
>>> their
>>> life-time. One does not have to be an activist to know that poverty and
>>> disability go hand in hand. While most of us spending our time in
>>> thinking
>>> of making “skies” inclusive, let us give some time to make the ground
>>> below
>>> our feet more inclusive.
>>>
>>> Endless cases are heard about attitudinal barriers disabled people face
>>> while travelling in a bus. Only once we could make it to a newspaper
>>> headlines. Bidyut Dey, a 50 yr old man with amputed leg was thrown out of
>>> a
>>> Government bus as he said he has the right to travel without tickets. Dey
>>> himself a West Bengal Government employee is an organiser of sports of
>>> disabled people. He travels all over India with a cricket team comprising
>>> of disabled youngsters. He refused to let this incident go unreported and
>>> lodged a FIR and followed up the case regularly. That he was ridiculed by
>>> Police for making such trivia a case, and the Magistrate who was
>>> listening
>>> to his case was shocked to find that a man can refuse to buy tickets
>>> while
>>> travelling and say that this is his right, is another story. Neither the
>>> Police offi

Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent ?

[Milan Mittal]

hello list members,
1. you can try automatic scanning as it gives around 90% accuracy and
speedy as well. you can get it done from any organisation nearby your
place having this machine.
2. portable magnifiers like versa proves very benefitial for low
vision people when there is immediate requirement of checking /
reading document.
3. there is another device by the name zoom x where the book is placed
below a camera connected with the desktop / laptop and within few
seconds after a click, it starts reading the page.
hope that above mentioned things may prove benefitial for you.

On 2/27/12, Uma VR  wrote:
> good evening friends,
> I hope any of you can give me suggestions.
> I have completed LL.B with utmost difficulty. now, my problem is with
> regard to scanning all the law books. I am doing the scanning work on
> my own. but, while coming to point of editing, I am having many
> problems. there I need the help of the sighted. I found that there are
> many errors in the text which I have scanned. it is very difficult for
> me to do editing work on my own. but any way I am doing it.
>
> now, my querry is how a VI advocate is able to scan and read all the
> books. the reason why I ask this question is when someone asks us
> about  any section, we have to refer to the particular book. i think
> it is not possible for us to scan and keep with us all the books. if
> at all we have scanned books with us, we have to do proof reading. it
> is very difficult to do proof reading rather than doing scanning. I am
> taking 45 minutes to edit one page and that too with great difficulty
> by staining my eyes.
>
> so, friends, please give me suggestions for the following
> 1. is there any way to get error free text after scanning and
> converting it into text.
> 2. is there any efficient way of proof reading?
> 3. is there any other way to get books other than scanning?
>
> I dont know Brail. so, please give suggestions other than getting
> books in brail format.
> thank you in advance
> there is nothing impossible except the word impossible.
>
>
-- 
Thanks and regards,
Milan Mittal
Mobile - +919910043004
Email ID - milan.mit...@yahoo.com
Skype - milan.mittal


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[AI] Braille texting app

[jayinfotech]

 


Braille texting app could have broader appeal


Designed for the visually impaired, an open-source app out of Georgia Tech
could prove to be a texting tool for the masses.

Most of us have at least tried to text without looking at our phones before.
I confess to having shot off a quick message while stopped at a red light,
or immediately following crazy goals and tackles at soccer matches, or even
from the confines of my pocket at parties.

 

The prototype app BrailleTouch is currently undergoing usability studies.

Now a free, open-source app called BrailleTouch
  is about to
make this form of multitasking that much easier--for the visually impaired
and sighted alike.

Designed at Georgia Tech, the app incorporates
  the
Braille writing system into a touch-screen device. It essentially turns an
iPhone  's touch screen into a soft-touch
keyboard programmed for Braille, thus requiring only six keys, that converts
gestures into input points.

By using the six-key Braille configuration, the keyboard actually fits on
the touch screen, allowing users to hold their devices with their palms,
thumbs, or pinkies while the screens face away from them.

"BrailleTouch is an out-of-the-box solution that will work with smartphones
and tablets   and allow users to start
learning the Braille alphabet in a few minutes," Mario Romero
 , the project's principal
investigator, said in a news release. "It also reduces the need for
expensive proprietary Braille keyboard devices, which typically cost
thousands of dollars."

A few like-minded concepts are popping up, including the similar (but $4.99)
TypeInBraille
  app just
released by EveryWare Technologies and an
  8-key version developed by students at Stanford that follows
the location of the user's fingers.

Whether the masses will take the time to learn to type the Braille alphabet
(Romero says they don't have to learn to read it, and that people can learn
to type it in a matter of minutes) remains to be seen, but those who do may
eventually find that they are able to type up to 32 words per minute with 92
percent accuracy, according to early studies with visually impaired
participants proficient in Braille typing.

The app has already won the   MobileHCI
2011 competition for design in Stockholm, in the fall of 2011. The Georgia
Tech team has developed iPhone and iPad versions of BrailleTouch and says
Android   versions are next.
BrailleTouch is currently being demonstrated at the Abilities Expo-Atlanta
2012 this weekend.


Read more:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27083_3-57380668-247/braille-texting-app-could-hav
e-broader-appeal/#ixzz1ngDXwZvb

 

Amit Sanghvi

Father of Aayushi Sanghvi


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Re: [AI] Ground Reality

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Wonderful, Vamshi, Wonderful!!!
It requires courage, initiative and sensitivity to do such efforts.
The dividends are sure to follow.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:08 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Ground Reality

Hi,

I would like to narrate my contribution to raise awareness amongst the
non-disabled community about our issues.  On prominant days like
international day for PWDs, Braille day, white cane day, etc.,  I
write a one paper message about the importance of such days and
circulate it along with a chocolate in my office which has around 100
employees.  Now all my colleagues know about  issues like this.  So,
along with governments and NGOs, every individual should take some
activity  or other to raise awareness in his/her own small worlds.

This has another advantage.  Some of us complain that colleagues are
not sensitive to disabled.  Programs like this will help to a great
extent in getting help from people around us.




On 2/28/12, Vamshi. G  wrote:
> Is this article published in the main stream society?  I think it's
> more important to publish pieces like this in the press, instead of
> posting on fora like ours.
> Since this is posted on a public forum, will any print media accept to
> publish this?
>
> On 2/28/12, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Spot on!
>> Written from the core of heart and mind both.
>> Thank you Shruti for sharing with us.
>> Hats off to Shampa Sengupta lady activist.
>> We need more such writings in mainstream to brodden our movement and
>> open well of people's eyes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/12, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre  wrote:
>>> This article is written by Shampa Sengupta, a Kolkata based activist
>>> working on gender and disability issues. As Indian disability sector is
>>> upset with several cases of discrimination faced by disabled passengers
>>> in
>>> the air, she ponders whether as activists the issues of masses are being
>>> overlooked which makes the movement more for the selected few.
>>>
>>>
>>> All of us who work for disability rights were enraged at the news of
>>> treatment meted out to fellow activist Jeeja Ghosh by Spicejet Airlines
>>> when she was flying to attend an International seminar from Kolkata to
>>> Goa.
>>> Media played a vital role and gave ample coverage to the incident
>>> screaming
>>> loud that such behaviour with disabled passengers is totally unbecoming.
>>> In solidarity, different groups came together to organise a protest
>>> meeting
>>> in Jeeja's own city Kolkata. National level rights based groups raised
>>> hue
>>> and cry. And for a change, to our satisfaction, we came to know that our
>>> newly appointed Chief Commissioner of Disabilities of India took
>>> suo-motu
>>> action and issued a show-cause notice based on media reports to the
>>> concerned airlines.
>>>
>>> However the question here is not that of one Jeeja Ghosh or one specific
>>> airline. We all know of similar cases in past. Some of them got media
>>> coverage and some of them did not get any.  When activists face these
>>> kinds
>>> of situations, they raise their voices. Some of these make news
>>> headlines,
>>> some do not. However, large numbers of cases remain unreported.  So one
>>> does not feel surprised when within few days of Jeeja Ghosh incident,
>>> another disabled activist Anjlee Agarwal faces humiliation while flying
>>> from Delhi to Raipur.  We are aware that these experiences are part of
>>> lives of disabled people.  We are proud that Jeeja and Anjlee have the
>>> guts
>>> to put up the fight. The disability sector of India has also started
>>> looking at civil aviation policies and rules once again, started
>>> discussing
>>> and demanding changes that should be incorporated. It is ironical that
>>> both
>>> Jeeja and Anjlee work for including disability in mainstream with one of
>>> them focusing on accessible environment.  It is humiliating and painful
>>> for
>>> any disabled person to face this while travelling by air.
>>>
>>> But a greater irony is the fact that we are forgetting the large number
>>> of
>>> disabled population who  face harassment in travelling by any mode of
>>> transport on a regular basis. And here I am not talking about physical
>>> accessibility of buses, metro, trains, trams or any other public
>>> transport.
>>> I am talking about the attitudinal barriers they face when they try to
>>> use
>>> public transport.  It is important to remember here that thousands of
>>> disabled people in India do not even dream of boarding an aircraft in
>>> their
>>> life-time. One does not have to be an activist to know that poverty and
>>> disability go hand in hand. While most of us spending our time in
>>> thinking
>>> of making "skies" inclusive, let us give some time to make the ground
>>> below
>>> our feet more inclusive.
>>>
>>> Endless cases are h

Re: [AI] Ground Reality

[Vamshi. G]

Hi,

I would like to narrate my contribution to raise awareness amongst the
non-disabled community about our issues.  On prominant days like
international day for PWDs, Braille day, white cane day, etc.,  I
write a one paper message about the importance of such days and
circulate it along with a chocolate in my office which has around 100
employees.  Now all my colleagues know about  issues like this.  So,
along with governments and NGOs, every individual should take some
activity  or other to raise awareness in his/her own small worlds.

This has another advantage.  Some of us complain that colleagues are
not sensitive to disabled.  Programs like this will help to a great
extent in getting help from people around us.




On 2/28/12, Vamshi. G  wrote:
> Is this article published in the main stream society?  I think it's
> more important to publish pieces like this in the press, instead of
> posting on fora like ours.
> Since this is posted on a public forum, will any print media accept to
> publish this?
>
> On 2/28/12, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Spot on!
>> Written from the core of heart and mind both.
>> Thank you Shruti for sharing with us.
>> Hats off to Shampa Sengupta lady activist.
>> We need more such writings in mainstream to brodden our movement and
>> open well of people's eyes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/12, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre  wrote:
>>> This article is written by Shampa Sengupta, a Kolkata based activist
>>> working on gender and disability issues. As Indian disability sector is
>>> upset with several cases of discrimination faced by disabled passengers
>>> in
>>> the air, she ponders whether as activists the issues of masses are being
>>> overlooked which makes the movement more for the selected few.
>>>
>>>
>>> All of us who work for disability rights were enraged at the news of
>>> treatment meted out to fellow activist Jeeja Ghosh by Spicejet Airlines
>>> when she was flying to attend an International seminar from Kolkata to
>>> Goa.
>>> Media played a vital role and gave ample coverage to the incident
>>> screaming
>>> loud that such behaviour with disabled passengers is totally unbecoming.
>>> In solidarity, different groups came together to organise a protest
>>> meeting
>>> in Jeeja’s own city Kolkata. National level rights based groups raised
>>> hue
>>> and cry. And for a change, to our satisfaction, we came to know that our
>>> newly appointed Chief Commissioner of Disabilities of India took
>>> suo-motu
>>> action and issued a show-cause notice based on media reports to the
>>> concerned airlines.
>>>
>>> However the question here is not that of one Jeeja Ghosh or one specific
>>> airline. We all know of similar cases in past. Some of them got media
>>> coverage and some of them did not get any.  When activists face these
>>> kinds
>>> of situations, they raise their voices. Some of these make news
>>> headlines,
>>> some do not. However, large numbers of cases remain unreported.  So one
>>> does not feel surprised when within few days of Jeeja Ghosh incident,
>>> another disabled activist Anjlee Agarwal faces humiliation while flying
>>> from Delhi to Raipur.  We are aware that these experiences are part of
>>> lives of disabled people.  We are proud that Jeeja and Anjlee have the
>>> guts
>>> to put up the fight. The disability sector of India has also started
>>> looking at civil aviation policies and rules once again, started
>>> discussing
>>> and demanding changes that should be incorporated. It is ironical that
>>> both
>>> Jeeja and Anjlee work for including disability in mainstream with one of
>>> them focusing on accessible environment.  It is humiliating and painful
>>> for
>>> any disabled person to face this while travelling by air.
>>>
>>> But a greater irony is the fact that we are forgetting the large number
>>> of
>>> disabled population who  face harassment in travelling by any mode of
>>> transport on a regular basis. And here I am not talking about physical
>>> accessibility of buses, metro, trains, trams or any other public
>>> transport.
>>> I am talking about the attitudinal barriers they face when they try to
>>> use
>>> public transport.  It is important to remember here that thousands of
>>> disabled people in India do not even dream of boarding an aircraft in
>>> their
>>> life-time. One does not have to be an activist to know that poverty and
>>> disability go hand in hand. While most of us spending our time in
>>> thinking
>>> of making “skies” inclusive, let us give some time to make the ground
>>> below
>>> our feet more inclusive.
>>>
>>> Endless cases are heard about attitudinal barriers disabled people face
>>> while travelling in a bus. Only once we could make it to a newspaper
>>> headlines. Bidyut Dey, a 50 yr old man with amputed leg was thrown out
>>> of
>>> a
>>> Government bus as he said he has the right to travel without tickets.
>>> Dey
>>> himself a West Bengal Government employee is an organiser of sports of
>>> disabled people

Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet

[Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala]

Oh Yes!

that's so straight-forward. For example, if the cells contain 100MB,
200MB, 300MB, 400MB, etc then press CTRL+H to open the Find and
Replace dialog box. Enter MB in the Find What edit combo and activate
the Replace All button. Note the the string MB would be replaced all
over the worksheet. If you do not wish to replace it all over the
worksheet then select the cells using GoTo dialog box (CTRL+G) and
then perform a Replace All.

If you wish to retain the original strings then this is not the right option.

Thanks Zoher for telling the list about the easiest way of purging a
known string from a number of places in the worksheet.

On 2/28/12, zoher  wrote:
> if the  characters are same in text and number then why to use a formula,
> just use find and replace command.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" 
> To: "Mujtaba Merchant" ;
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet
>
>
>> Hi Mujtaba,
>>
>> The RIGHT() function returns a text string, you should use the VALUE()
>> function to get a numeric equivalent for a numeric calculation. For
>> example, changing your formula to the following is good for numeric
>> calculations:
>>
>> =VALUE(RIGHT(A1, 3))
>>
>> Also, the LEFT() and RIGHT() functions are good when you have a fixed
>> number of characters to extract and the characters to purge are
>> distinct. The above formula would not produce correct results for the
>> following set of values:
>>
>> BA12 - (RIGHT function returns A12)
>> CSG2290 - (RIGHT function returns 290)
>> A7 - (RIGHT function returns A7)
>>
>> It's better to use the SUBSTITUTE() function if the string to purge is
>> known:
>>
>> =SUBSTITUTE(A1, "MB", "")
>>
>> where A1 contains a value 241MB.
>>
>> The limitation of the SUBSTITUTE() function is that it would produce
>> incorrect results if copied for cells with distinct string values to
>> purge.
>>
>> One more option is to use the MID() function. This function returns a
>> string containing number of characters from a specific position. For
>> example, the below function returns 123:
>>
>> =MID("ALLL123large", 4, 3)
>>
>> If the strings to purge are distinct and you know the length then use
>> REPLACE() function. For example:
>>
>> =REPLACE("MUM230", 4, 3) returns 230.
>> =REPLACE("MUM230RS", 4, 3) also returns 230.
>>
>> The limitation of REPLACE() function when copying it is that the
>> strings to pirge should be of the same length and start at the same
>> position.
>>
>> The use of these functions depends on the situation you are in. For
>> single values, they always produce the desired result.
>>
>> On 2/28/12, Mujtaba Merchant  wrote:
>>> Hello Hozefa,
>>>
>>> Too challenging for me to answer your question but here is an attempt
>>> which
>>> might work. I urge you to practise this first on a new excel workbook
>>> before
>>> you apply it to the original file in concern.
>>>
>>> I am assuming that the text is before or after the numbers and not in
>>> between them in the column cells. Depending on the case that the numbers
>>> are
>>> on the right and are of the same number of characters i.e. that the
>>> numbers
>>> have the same number of digits.
>>>
>>> In the cell A1 to A3, type the following:
>>> BAn 122
>>> CAL 586
>>> BOM 856
>>>
>>> In the column B cell row 1 type this formula:
>>> =right(A1,3)
>>> Now see what you get in cell B1, if you have done everything correctly
>>> you
>>> should see just the number from the cell A1 which is 122. In the formula
>>> above the number 3 indicates the count of characters from the right from
>>> the
>>> cell referenced which is A1 in this case.
>>>
>>> Perhaps this logic can be used to help you to do the sum for the column?
>>>
>>> Mujtaba Merchant
>>> Bangalore, India
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Hozefa Tambawala
>>> To: Accessindia
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:18 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>> I have an excel file in which columns A to c are filled. Now I want to
>>> calculate the sum of B column. But that column contains both Alfa and
>>> numeric characters. When I calculated the sum of B column, it
>>> displayed the value as zero. So anybody has an idea how to remove Alfa
>>> characters at once from the particular column and multiple rows?
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Life is like a piano.
>>> White keys are happy moments
>>> & Black keys are sad moments.
>>> But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music."
>>>
>>> "Focus on your abilities, not your disability."
>>>
>>> Warm Regards,
>>> Have a nice day
>>>
>>> Hozefa...
>>>
>>>
>>> Search for old postings at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
>>>
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>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
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>>>
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>>> please
>>

Re: [AI] Special Employment Exchange Handicapped

[Umesha Economics]

why can't you make a call to your directorate of disabled welfare or any 
division of that department?


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "GANDIGUDE SANTOSH" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: [AI] Special Employment Exchange Handicapped


Please give the address,Contact Number & Email ID's of Special Employment 
Exchange for Physically Handicapped in Maharashtra.


I hope you will give detail Information.







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Re: [AI] Ground Reality

[Vamshi. G]

Is this article published in the main stream society?  I think it's
more important to publish pieces like this in the press, instead of
posting on fora like ours.
Since this is posted on a public forum, will any print media accept to
publish this?

On 2/28/12, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Spot on!
> Written from the core of heart and mind both.
> Thank you Shruti for sharing with us.
> Hats off to Shampa Sengupta lady activist.
> We need more such writings in mainstream to brodden our movement and
> open well of people's eyes.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/28/12, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre  wrote:
>> This article is written by Shampa Sengupta, a Kolkata based activist
>> working on gender and disability issues. As Indian disability sector is
>> upset with several cases of discrimination faced by disabled passengers in
>> the air, she ponders whether as activists the issues of masses are being
>> overlooked which makes the movement more for the selected few.
>>
>>
>> All of us who work for disability rights were enraged at the news of
>> treatment meted out to fellow activist Jeeja Ghosh by Spicejet Airlines
>> when she was flying to attend an International seminar from Kolkata to
>> Goa.
>> Media played a vital role and gave ample coverage to the incident
>> screaming
>> loud that such behaviour with disabled passengers is totally unbecoming.
>> In solidarity, different groups came together to organise a protest
>> meeting
>> in Jeeja’s own city Kolkata. National level rights based groups raised hue
>> and cry. And for a change, to our satisfaction, we came to know that our
>> newly appointed Chief Commissioner of Disabilities of India took suo-motu
>> action and issued a show-cause notice based on media reports to the
>> concerned airlines.
>>
>> However the question here is not that of one Jeeja Ghosh or one specific
>> airline. We all know of similar cases in past. Some of them got media
>> coverage and some of them did not get any.  When activists face these
>> kinds
>> of situations, they raise their voices. Some of these make news headlines,
>> some do not. However, large numbers of cases remain unreported.  So one
>> does not feel surprised when within few days of Jeeja Ghosh incident,
>> another disabled activist Anjlee Agarwal faces humiliation while flying
>> from Delhi to Raipur.  We are aware that these experiences are part of
>> lives of disabled people.  We are proud that Jeeja and Anjlee have the
>> guts
>> to put up the fight. The disability sector of India has also started
>> looking at civil aviation policies and rules once again, started
>> discussing
>> and demanding changes that should be incorporated. It is ironical that
>> both
>> Jeeja and Anjlee work for including disability in mainstream with one of
>> them focusing on accessible environment.  It is humiliating and painful
>> for
>> any disabled person to face this while travelling by air.
>>
>> But a greater irony is the fact that we are forgetting the large number of
>> disabled population who  face harassment in travelling by any mode of
>> transport on a regular basis. And here I am not talking about physical
>> accessibility of buses, metro, trains, trams or any other public
>> transport.
>> I am talking about the attitudinal barriers they face when they try to use
>> public transport.  It is important to remember here that thousands of
>> disabled people in India do not even dream of boarding an aircraft in
>> their
>> life-time. One does not have to be an activist to know that poverty and
>> disability go hand in hand. While most of us spending our time in thinking
>> of making “skies” inclusive, let us give some time to make the ground
>> below
>> our feet more inclusive.
>>
>> Endless cases are heard about attitudinal barriers disabled people face
>> while travelling in a bus. Only once we could make it to a newspaper
>> headlines. Bidyut Dey, a 50 yr old man with amputed leg was thrown out of
>> a
>> Government bus as he said he has the right to travel without tickets. Dey
>> himself a West Bengal Government employee is an organiser of sports of
>> disabled people. He travels all over India with a cricket team comprising
>> of disabled youngsters. He refused to let this incident go unreported and
>> lodged a FIR and followed up the case regularly. That he was ridiculed by
>> Police for making such trivia a case, and the Magistrate who was listening
>> to his case was shocked to find that a man can refuse to buy tickets while
>> travelling and say that this is his right, is another story. Neither the
>> Police officer nor the magistrate was even aware of a law called Persons
>> with Disabilities Act after 12 years of enactment. These are the facts we
>> have learnt to accept. Like we have accepted that problems in daily
>> commuting is not a big issue.
>>
>> I still remember when Jeeja and I were co-workers in the same project, she
>> faced similar harassment while travelling in a mini-bus.  Jeeja being the
>> fighter did not let it go

Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet

[zoher]

if the  characters are same in text and number then why to use a formula, 
just use find and replace command.
- Original Message - 
From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" 
To: "Mujtaba Merchant" ; 


Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet



Hi Mujtaba,

The RIGHT() function returns a text string, you should use the VALUE()
function to get a numeric equivalent for a numeric calculation. For
example, changing your formula to the following is good for numeric
calculations:

=VALUE(RIGHT(A1, 3))

Also, the LEFT() and RIGHT() functions are good when you have a fixed
number of characters to extract and the characters to purge are
distinct. The above formula would not produce correct results for the
following set of values:

BA12 - (RIGHT function returns A12)
CSG2290 - (RIGHT function returns 290)
A7 - (RIGHT function returns A7)

It's better to use the SUBSTITUTE() function if the string to purge is 
known:


=SUBSTITUTE(A1, "MB", "")

where A1 contains a value 241MB.

The limitation of the SUBSTITUTE() function is that it would produce
incorrect results if copied for cells with distinct string values to
purge.

One more option is to use the MID() function. This function returns a
string containing number of characters from a specific position. For
example, the below function returns 123:

=MID("ALLL123large", 4, 3)

If the strings to purge are distinct and you know the length then use
REPLACE() function. For example:

=REPLACE("MUM230", 4, 3) returns 230.
=REPLACE("MUM230RS", 4, 3) also returns 230.

The limitation of REPLACE() function when copying it is that the
strings to pirge should be of the same length and start at the same
position.

The use of these functions depends on the situation you are in. For
single values, they always produce the desired result.

On 2/28/12, Mujtaba Merchant  wrote:

Hello Hozefa,

Too challenging for me to answer your question but here is an attempt 
which
might work. I urge you to practise this first on a new excel workbook 
before

you apply it to the original file in concern.

I am assuming that the text is before or after the numbers and not in
between them in the column cells. Depending on the case that the numbers 
are
on the right and are of the same number of characters i.e. that the 
numbers

have the same number of digits.

In the cell A1 to A3, type the following:
BAn 122
CAL 586
BOM 856

In the column B cell row 1 type this formula:
=right(A1,3)
Now see what you get in cell B1, if you have done everything correctly 
you

should see just the number from the cell A1 which is 122. In the formula
above the number 3 indicates the count of characters from the right from 
the

cell referenced which is A1 in this case.

Perhaps this logic can be used to help you to do the sum for the column?

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India

- Original Message -
From: Hozefa Tambawala
To: Accessindia
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:18 PM
Subject: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet


Dear friends,

I have an excel file in which columns A to c are filled. Now I want to
calculate the sum of B column. But that column contains both Alfa and
numeric characters. When I calculated the sum of B column, it
displayed the value as zero. So anybody has an idea how to remove Alfa
characters at once from the particular column and multiple rows?

--
"Life is like a piano.
White keys are happy moments
& Black keys are sad moments.
But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music."

"Focus on your abilities, not your disability."

Warm Regards,
Have a nice day

Hozefa...


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Re: [AI] Ground Reality

[Himanshu Sahu]

Excellent observation, Madam!

On 2/28/12, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Spot on!
> Written from the core of heart and mind both.
> Thank you Shruti for sharing with us.
> Hats off to Shampa Sengupta lady activist.
> We need more such writings in mainstream to brodden our movement and
> open well of people's eyes.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/28/12, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre  wrote:
>> This article is written by Shampa Sengupta, a Kolkata based activist
>> working on gender and disability issues. As Indian disability sector is
>> upset with several cases of discrimination faced by disabled passengers in
>> the air, she ponders whether as activists the issues of masses are being
>> overlooked which makes the movement more for the selected few.
>>
>>
>> All of us who work for disability rights were enraged at the news of
>> treatment meted out to fellow activist Jeeja Ghosh by Spicejet Airlines
>> when she was flying to attend an International seminar from Kolkata to
>> Goa.
>> Media played a vital role and gave ample coverage to the incident
>> screaming
>> loud that such behaviour with disabled passengers is totally unbecoming.
>> In solidarity, different groups came together to organise a protest
>> meeting
>> in Jeeja’s own city Kolkata. National level rights based groups raised hue
>> and cry. And for a change, to our satisfaction, we came to know that our
>> newly appointed Chief Commissioner of Disabilities of India took suo-motu
>> action and issued a show-cause notice based on media reports to the
>> concerned airlines.
>>
>> However the question here is not that of one Jeeja Ghosh or one specific
>> airline. We all know of similar cases in past. Some of them got media
>> coverage and some of them did not get any.  When activists face these
>> kinds
>> of situations, they raise their voices. Some of these make news headlines,
>> some do not. However, large numbers of cases remain unreported.  So one
>> does not feel surprised when within few days of Jeeja Ghosh incident,
>> another disabled activist Anjlee Agarwal faces humiliation while flying
>> from Delhi to Raipur.  We are aware that these experiences are part of
>> lives of disabled people.  We are proud that Jeeja and Anjlee have the
>> guts
>> to put up the fight. The disability sector of India has also started
>> looking at civil aviation policies and rules once again, started
>> discussing
>> and demanding changes that should be incorporated. It is ironical that
>> both
>> Jeeja and Anjlee work for including disability in mainstream with one of
>> them focusing on accessible environment.  It is humiliating and painful
>> for
>> any disabled person to face this while travelling by air.
>>
>> But a greater irony is the fact that we are forgetting the large number of
>> disabled population who  face harassment in travelling by any mode of
>> transport on a regular basis. And here I am not talking about physical
>> accessibility of buses, metro, trains, trams or any other public
>> transport.
>> I am talking about the attitudinal barriers they face when they try to use
>> public transport.  It is important to remember here that thousands of
>> disabled people in India do not even dream of boarding an aircraft in
>> their
>> life-time. One does not have to be an activist to know that poverty and
>> disability go hand in hand. While most of us spending our time in thinking
>> of making “skies” inclusive, let us give some time to make the ground
>> below
>> our feet more inclusive.
>>
>> Endless cases are heard about attitudinal barriers disabled people face
>> while travelling in a bus. Only once we could make it to a newspaper
>> headlines. Bidyut Dey, a 50 yr old man with amputed leg was thrown out of
>> a
>> Government bus as he said he has the right to travel without tickets. Dey
>> himself a West Bengal Government employee is an organiser of sports of
>> disabled people. He travels all over India with a cricket team comprising
>> of disabled youngsters. He refused to let this incident go unreported and
>> lodged a FIR and followed up the case regularly. That he was ridiculed by
>> Police for making such trivia a case, and the Magistrate who was listening
>> to his case was shocked to find that a man can refuse to buy tickets while
>> travelling and say that this is his right, is another story. Neither the
>> Police officer nor the magistrate was even aware of a law called Persons
>> with Disabilities Act after 12 years of enactment. These are the facts we
>> have learnt to accept. Like we have accepted that problems in daily
>> commuting is not a big issue.
>>
>> I still remember when Jeeja and I were co-workers in the same project, she
>> faced similar harassment while travelling in a mini-bus.  Jeeja being the
>> fighter did not let it go, she made a formal complaint to the Bus Workers
>> Union and was given a formal apology. But such instances of resistance
>> remains isolated cases and on a whole disability sector never made a
>> consolidated effort 

Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet

[Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala]

Hi Mujtaba,

The RIGHT() function returns a text string, you should use the VALUE()
function to get a numeric equivalent for a numeric calculation. For
example, changing your formula to the following is good for numeric
calculations:

=VALUE(RIGHT(A1, 3))

Also, the LEFT() and RIGHT() functions are good when you have a fixed
number of characters to extract and the characters to purge are
distinct. The above formula would not produce correct results for the
following set of values:

BA12 - (RIGHT function returns A12)
CSG2290 - (RIGHT function returns 290)
A7 - (RIGHT function returns A7)

It's better to use the SUBSTITUTE() function if the string to purge is known:

=SUBSTITUTE(A1, "MB", "")

where A1 contains a value 241MB.

The limitation of the SUBSTITUTE() function is that it would produce
incorrect results if copied for cells with distinct string values to
purge.

One more option is to use the MID() function. This function returns a
string containing number of characters from a specific position. For
example, the below function returns 123:

=MID("ALLL123large", 4, 3)

If the strings to purge are distinct and you know the length then use
REPLACE() function. For example:

=REPLACE("MUM230", 4, 3) returns 230.
=REPLACE("MUM230RS", 4, 3) also returns 230.

The limitation of REPLACE() function when copying it is that the
strings to pirge should be of the same length and start at the same
position.

The use of these functions depends on the situation you are in. For
single values, they always produce the desired result.

On 2/28/12, Mujtaba Merchant  wrote:
> Hello Hozefa,
>
> Too challenging for me to answer your question but here is an attempt which
> might work. I urge you to practise this first on a new excel workbook before
> you apply it to the original file in concern.
>
> I am assuming that the text is before or after the numbers and not in
> between them in the column cells. Depending on the case that the numbers are
> on the right and are of the same number of characters i.e. that the numbers
> have the same number of digits.
>
> In the cell A1 to A3, type the following:
> BAn 122
> CAL 586
> BOM 856
>
> In the column B cell row 1 type this formula:
> =right(A1,3)
> Now see what you get in cell B1, if you have done everything correctly you
> should see just the number from the cell A1 which is 122. In the formula
> above the number 3 indicates the count of characters from the right from the
> cell referenced which is A1 in this case.
>
> Perhaps this logic can be used to help you to do the sum for the column?
>
> Mujtaba Merchant
> Bangalore, India
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Hozefa Tambawala
> To: Accessindia
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:18 PM
> Subject: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I have an excel file in which columns A to c are filled. Now I want to
> calculate the sum of B column. But that column contains both Alfa and
> numeric characters. When I calculated the sum of B column, it
> displayed the value as zero. So anybody has an idea how to remove Alfa
> characters at once from the particular column and multiple rows?
>
> --
> "Life is like a piano.
> White keys are happy moments
> & Black keys are sad moments.
> But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music."
>
> "Focus on your abilities, not your disability."
>
> Warm Regards,
> Have a nice day
>
> Hozefa...
>
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Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet

[Umesha Economics]

that is OK if the "MB" remains constant throughout  all the rows. but if the 
characters change from one row to another, what can we do?


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Help needed to calculate sum in Excel worksheet



Hi Hozefa,

Let me elaborate your query before attempting to answer it. You have
an excel worksheet with data in columns A B and C. I assume that there
is data in rows 2 through 51, row #1 contains column titles. Column B
contains alphanumeric data of the form nMB where n is a numeric value.
You need to remove "MB" from the alphanumeric string and use n in a
numeric calculation.

The SUBSTITUTE() function of Excel can help you in this situation.
Listing below the steps to perform:

1. Enter the following formula in cell D2 and hit the ENTER key:

=VALUE(SUBSTITUTE(B2, "MB", ""))

2. Copy the content of cell D2 to your clipboard with CTRL+C (make
sure the cursor is on the cell D2).

3. Press CTRL+G to launch the GoTo dialog box of Excel. Enter the
following cell reference in the Reference edit combo and press ENTER:

D3:D51

4. Paste clipboard content with CTRL+V.

The cells D2 through D51 would now contain numeric values from column
B that can be used in calculations. The following formula in D52
should give you the sum total of the extracted numeric values:

=SUM(D2:D51)

Note that the SUBSTITUTE() function returns a string that cannot
participate in numeric calculations. So, I have used the VALUE()
function to get numeric equivalent of the string.

Hope your query is answered.

On 2/28/12, Hozefa Tambawala  wrote:

Dear friends,

I have an excel file in which columns A to c are filled. Now I want to
calculate the sum of B column. But that column contains both Alfa and
numeric characters. When I calculated the sum of B column, it
displayed the value as zero. So anybody has an idea how to remove Alfa
characters at once from the particular column and multiple rows?

--
"Life is like a piano.
White keys are happy moments
& Black keys are sad moments.
But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music."

"Focus on your abilities, not your disability."

Warm Regards,
Have a nice day

Hozefa...


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Re: [AI] Ground Reality

[avinash shahi]

Spot on!
Written from the core of heart and mind both.
Thank you Shruti for sharing with us.
Hats off to Shampa Sengupta lady activist.
We need more such writings in mainstream to brodden our movement and
open well of people's eyes.





On 2/28/12, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre  wrote:
> This article is written by Shampa Sengupta, a Kolkata based activist
> working on gender and disability issues. As Indian disability sector is
> upset with several cases of discrimination faced by disabled passengers in
> the air, she ponders whether as activists the issues of masses are being
> overlooked which makes the movement more for the selected few.
>
>
> All of us who work for disability rights were enraged at the news of
> treatment meted out to fellow activist Jeeja Ghosh by Spicejet Airlines
> when she was flying to attend an International seminar from Kolkata to Goa.
> Media played a vital role and gave ample coverage to the incident screaming
> loud that such behaviour with disabled passengers is totally unbecoming.
> In solidarity, different groups came together to organise a protest meeting
> in Jeeja’s own city Kolkata. National level rights based groups raised hue
> and cry. And for a change, to our satisfaction, we came to know that our
> newly appointed Chief Commissioner of Disabilities of India took suo-motu
> action and issued a show-cause notice based on media reports to the
> concerned airlines.
>
> However the question here is not that of one Jeeja Ghosh or one specific
> airline. We all know of similar cases in past. Some of them got media
> coverage and some of them did not get any.  When activists face these kinds
> of situations, they raise their voices. Some of these make news headlines,
> some do not. However, large numbers of cases remain unreported.  So one
> does not feel surprised when within few days of Jeeja Ghosh incident,
> another disabled activist Anjlee Agarwal faces humiliation while flying
> from Delhi to Raipur.  We are aware that these experiences are part of
> lives of disabled people.  We are proud that Jeeja and Anjlee have the guts
> to put up the fight. The disability sector of India has also started
> looking at civil aviation policies and rules once again, started discussing
> and demanding changes that should be incorporated. It is ironical that both
> Jeeja and Anjlee work for including disability in mainstream with one of
> them focusing on accessible environment.  It is humiliating and painful for
> any disabled person to face this while travelling by air.
>
> But a greater irony is the fact that we are forgetting the large number of
> disabled population who  face harassment in travelling by any mode of
> transport on a regular basis. And here I am not talking about physical
> accessibility of buses, metro, trains, trams or any other public transport.
> I am talking about the attitudinal barriers they face when they try to use
> public transport.  It is important to remember here that thousands of
> disabled people in India do not even dream of boarding an aircraft in their
> life-time. One does not have to be an activist to know that poverty and
> disability go hand in hand. While most of us spending our time in thinking
> of making “skies” inclusive, let us give some time to make the ground below
> our feet more inclusive.
>
> Endless cases are heard about attitudinal barriers disabled people face
> while travelling in a bus. Only once we could make it to a newspaper
> headlines. Bidyut Dey, a 50 yr old man with amputed leg was thrown out of a
> Government bus as he said he has the right to travel without tickets. Dey
> himself a West Bengal Government employee is an organiser of sports of
> disabled people. He travels all over India with a cricket team comprising
> of disabled youngsters. He refused to let this incident go unreported and
> lodged a FIR and followed up the case regularly. That he was ridiculed by
> Police for making such trivia a case, and the Magistrate who was listening
> to his case was shocked to find that a man can refuse to buy tickets while
> travelling and say that this is his right, is another story. Neither the
> Police officer nor the magistrate was even aware of a law called Persons
> with Disabilities Act after 12 years of enactment. These are the facts we
> have learnt to accept. Like we have accepted that problems in daily
> commuting is not a big issue.
>
> I still remember when Jeeja and I were co-workers in the same project, she
> faced similar harassment while travelling in a mini-bus.  Jeeja being the
> fighter did not let it go, she made a formal complaint to the Bus Workers
> Union and was given a formal apology. But such instances of resistance
> remains isolated cases and on a whole disability sector never made a
> consolidated effort to make this a priority issue.
>
> When on 3rd December 2011, a group of 10 blind people were not allowed to
> board a bus. They were not allowed as the conductor felt that there are two
> 

Re: [AI] Amway To Set Up Audio, Braille Library For Visually Impaired

[Silpa Mallipeddi]

Can differently abled people throughout India eligible to use this library?
Also it would be helpful not only for blind, but also for multi
disabled people especially for deaf blind by using this library.

Thanks and regards,
Silpa.


On 2/28/12, li...@srinivasu.org  wrote:
> Good. But I am not sure, if enough though process went in for this project.
>
> I think they should also add DAISY production for better outcome.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone
> -
> Senior Inclusive Design Manager, Yahoo!
> http://accessibility.yahoo.com
> http://Srinivasu.org
> Twitter: @vasutweets
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 1:23 PM, shahnaz  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Madurai, Feb. 27:
>>
>> An audio and Braille library for the visually-challenged students of
>> the Indian Association for the Blind (IAB) Madurai, with the support
>> of Amway Opportunity Foundation (AOF) and Amway distributors was
>> inaugurated on Sunday.
>>
>> Equipped with text books, magazines, general books in Braille as well
>> as through CD player, the new library will benefit over 300
>> visually-challenged students.
>>
>> The library was jointly inaugurated by Mr V.V. Rajan Chellapa, Mayor
>> of Madurai Corporation, and Mr S.M.A. Jinnah, Founder and Secretary
>> General, IAB Madurai, in the presence of Amway and IAB Madurai senior
>> officials at IAB campus at Sundararajanpatty.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/marketing/article2939097.ece
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Ground Reality

[Asudani, Rajesh]

I agree with Ms. Sengupta.
Ideally, every case of discrimination or rights violation in any 
transportation, or at any place should be logically followed up to its 
conclusion and should receive  due publicity.
However, we can as well use some prominent cases to highlight rampent 
discrimination an launch effective programmes for awareness.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sruti disAbility 
Rights Centre
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:40 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Ground Reality

This article is written by Shampa Sengupta, a Kolkata based activist
working on gender and disability issues. As Indian disability sector is
upset with several cases of discrimination faced by disabled passengers in
the air, she ponders whether as activists the issues of masses are being
overlooked which makes the movement more for the selected few.


All of us who work for disability rights were enraged at the news of
treatment meted out to fellow activist Jeeja Ghosh by Spicejet Airlines
when she was flying to attend an International seminar from Kolkata to Goa.
Media played a vital role and gave ample coverage to the incident screaming
loud that such behaviour with disabled passengers is totally unbecoming.
In solidarity, different groups came together to organise a protest meeting
in Jeeja's own city Kolkata. National level rights based groups raised hue
and cry. And for a change, to our satisfaction, we came to know that our
newly appointed Chief Commissioner of Disabilities of India took suo-motu
action and issued a show-cause notice based on media reports to the
concerned airlines.

However the question here is not that of one Jeeja Ghosh or one specific
airline. We all know of similar cases in past. Some of them got media
coverage and some of them did not get any.  When activists face these kinds
of situations, they raise their voices. Some of these make news headlines,
some do not. However, large numbers of cases remain unreported.  So one
does not feel surprised when within few days of Jeeja Ghosh incident,
another disabled activist Anjlee Agarwal faces humiliation while flying
from Delhi to Raipur.  We are aware that these experiences are part of
lives of disabled people.  We are proud that Jeeja and Anjlee have the guts
to put up the fight. The disability sector of India has also started
looking at civil aviation policies and rules once again, started discussing
and demanding changes that should be incorporated. It is ironical that both
Jeeja and Anjlee work for including disability in mainstream with one of
them focusing on accessible environment.  It is humiliating and painful for
any disabled person to face this while travelling by air.

But a greater irony is the fact that we are forgetting the large number of
disabled population who  face harassment in travelling by any mode of
transport on a regular basis. And here I am not talking about physical
accessibility of buses, metro, trains, trams or any other public transport.
I am talking about the attitudinal barriers they face when they try to use
public transport.  It is important to remember here that thousands of
disabled people in India do not even dream of boarding an aircraft in their
life-time. One does not have to be an activist to know that poverty and
disability go hand in hand. While most of us spending our time in thinking
of making "skies" inclusive, let us give some time to make the ground below
our feet more inclusive.

Endless cases are heard about attitudinal barriers disabled people face
while travelling in a bus. Only once we could make it to a newspaper
headlines. Bidyut Dey, a 50 yr old man with amputed leg was thrown out of a
Government bus as he said he has the right to travel without tickets. Dey
himself a West Bengal Government employee is an organiser of sports of
disabled people. He travels all over India with a cricket team comprising
of disabled youngsters. He refused to let this incident go unreported and
lodged a FIR and followed up the case regularly. That he was ridiculed by
Police for making such trivia a case, and the Magistrate who was listening
to his case was shocked to find that a man can refuse to buy tickets while
travelling and say that this is his right, is another story. Neither the
Police officer nor the magistrate was even aware of a law called Persons
with Disabilities Act after 12 years of enactment. These are the facts we
have learnt to accept. Like we have accepted that problems in daily
commuting is not a big issue.

I still remember when Jeeja and I were co-workers in the same project, she
faced similar harassment while travelling in a mini-bus.  Jeeja being the
fighter did not let it go, she made a formal complaint to the Bus Workers
Union and was given a formal apology. But such instances of resistance
remains isolated cases and on a whole disability sector never made a
consolidated 

Re: [AI] Amway To Set Up Audio, Braille Library For Visually Impaired

[li...@srinivasu.org]

Good. But I am not sure, if enough though process went in for this project. 

I think they should also add DAISY production for better outcome. 

Regards,
Srinivasu
Sent from my iPhone
-
Senior Inclusive Design Manager, Yahoo!
http://accessibility.yahoo.com
http://Srinivasu.org
Twitter: @vasutweets



On Feb 28, 2012, at 1:23 PM, shahnaz  wrote:

> 
> 
> Madurai, Feb. 27:
> 
> An audio and Braille library for the visually-challenged students of
> the Indian Association for the Blind (IAB) Madurai, with the support
> of Amway Opportunity Foundation (AOF) and Amway distributors was
> inaugurated on Sunday.
> 
> Equipped with text books, magazines, general books in Braille as well
> as through CD player, the new library will benefit over 300
> visually-challenged students.
> 
> The library was jointly inaugurated by Mr V.V. Rajan Chellapa, Mayor
> of Madurai Corporation, and Mr S.M.A. Jinnah, Founder and Secretary
> General, IAB Madurai, in the presence of Amway and IAB Madurai senior
> officials at IAB campus at Sundararajanpatty.
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/marketing/article2939097.ece
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent?

[Ajay Minocha]

Hi Rajesh sir ,
at how much resolution do you scann your documents? I think it all
depends on the resolution . I went to NAB center situated in R.k puram
ddelhi to get my accounts book scanned . they scanned it manually . I
asked them to give me a pdf file containing only images . then I
converted it into word documents using find reader . cirprizingly it
gave me more than 90%  good results . I meen all the tables were
detected very properly .
regards

On 2/28/12, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Here I am getting very good results, except for digits, with fine reader
> 9!!!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ajay Minocha
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:19 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent?
>
> Hi uma ,
> I have tried find reader 11 with my hp scanner with the same
> resolution . even I too faced that problem of poor results of ocr .
> then I tried Open book with the same resolution I mean 300 . it gave
> me a nice level of accuracy .
> regards
>
> On 2/28/12, Srikanth Kanuri  wrote:
>> what exactly is required? i cannot understand this mail.
>>
>> On 2/28/12, Uma VR  wrote:
>>> good morning friends,
>>> I am using HP scan Z 2400 for scanning and Abby fine reader (10
>>> version) for conversion.
>>> the configuration of my hard disc is 500 GB with 4GB RAM.
>>> the resolution set up is 300, the brightness is 50%
>>> if you want, I can send you the copy of scanned images also.
>>> thank you in advance
>>>
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