[AI] Standard Charted Bank Talking ATM addresses

2015-01-21 Thread Prashant Naik
Happy to share consecutive update on Talking ATMs locations in India.



Now we have Standard Charted Bank talking ATMs 34 addresses available to
search for.

Few good locations are

INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TERMINAL 1, NEW DELHI

GREATER KAILASH, PART I, NEW DELHI

M G ROAD, FORT, MUMBAI

SHIVAJI MANDIR, DADAR, MUMBAI

JAYNAGAR, BANGALORE



This is now 8th bank as per our repository to have talking ATMs in India.

Now total 4814 talking ATM addresses from following 8 banks:

3 Private banks = HSBC, Standard Chartered Bank and Citibank

4 Nationalized banks = SBI, Corporation Bank, Bank of Baroda and Union Bank

1 Regional rural bank = Kashi Gomti Samyut Gramin Bank (Sponsored by Union
bank)



Talking ATM locations updated on the website as on 21 January 2015.



Visit http://talkingatmindia.org/ accessible talking ATM locator site to
search Talking ATMs near you from total 4870 locations.  Find audio demo,
daisy user manual and other important resources on the site.



Also with an accessible android app Talking ATM Locator search while on
the move even if you don't have internet enabled.  Download free app from
google play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pice.talkingatmlocatorindiahl=en




Join facebook page https://www.facebook.com/talkingatmindia

Sincere thanks to Dr. Sam Taraporevala for his support.


Thank you,

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[AI] What abot thelangana no atm avelabul telRE: Update from Talking ATM India

2015-01-21 Thread reddythada0615


-original message-
Subject: [AI] Update from Talking ATM India
From: Prashant Naik pran...@gmail.com
Date: 19/01/2015 10:43 pm

Talking ATM locations updated on 18 January 2015..

Visit http://talkingatmindia.org/ accessible talking ATM locator site to
search Talking ATMs near you from total 4870 locations.  Find audio demo,
daisy user manual and other important resources on the site.

Also with an accessible android app Talking ATM Locator search while on
the move even if you don't have internet enabled.  Download free app from
google play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pice.talkingatmlocatorindiahl=en

Below table shows spread of talking ATMs state wise from 7 banks:

STATE NAME

Talking ATMs count

ANDHRA PRADESH

524

ARUNACHAL PRADESH

10

ASSAM

166

BIHAR

196

CHANDIGARH

17

CHHATTISGARH

123

DADRA AND NAGAR HAVELI

2

DAMAN AND DIU

5

DELHI

187

GOA

21

GUJARAT

319

HARYANA

114

HIMACHAL PRADESH

40

JAMMU  KASHMIR

75

JHARKHAND

117

KARNATAKA

210

KERALA

140

MADHYA PRADESH

305

MAHARASHTRA

580

MANIPUR

10

MEGHALAYA

13

MIZORAM

12

NAGALAND

13

ODISHA

220

PUDUCHERRY

3

PUNJAB

129

RAJASTHAN

116

SIKKIM

2

TAMIL NADU

314

TRIPURA

34

UTTAR PRADESH

614

UTTARAKHAND

33

WEST BENGAL

116

Grand Total

4780

Talking ATM India is a voluntary initiative to spread information,
awareness and to boost usage of Talking ATMs in India.

Join facebook page https://www.facebook.com/talkingatmindia to follow.

Thank you,

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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread Neelima Surve
Yes! That is braille note  taker.

Dinesh Sir, can you please explain the functions of all the keys on
braille display? Especially, when we can use space in computer, then,
why there is a space bar key on braille display?

Sorry if my question seems irrelevant.

Regards,
Neelima

On 1/21/15, Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
 No no, that is different.
 Its name is something like note taker.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Bhavya shah
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:09 PM
 To: neelima24su...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
 accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in
 Braille

 Hi,
 Those devices are called refreshable Braille displays. I haven't much
 knowledge about them, but they are very expensive, I think a lakh rupees? I
 may be absolutely wrong, but thats what I have heard.
 Search the very recent AI archives for information on the development of a
 low cost Braille printer as well.
 Thanks.
 I hope some other tech savey person having more experience with electronic
 Braille may be able to throw light on refreshable Braille displays and
 Braille printers/embossers.

 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about
 that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this
 thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

 Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn
 braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil,
 but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with
 a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing
 braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so,
 how can students develop their spellings?

 Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw
 some light on it? Please!

 Regards,
 Neelima


 On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nilima

 I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are
 forwarded to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment
 about Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the
 blind sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in
 future.



 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for replying on closed topic.

 Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations,
 which we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully
 illogical only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so
 called activest person.

 Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better,
 if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes,
 before sending it to him.

 Regards,
 neelima


 On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in
 the article

 Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script,
 and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about
 Braille through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to
 be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in
 technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones,
 Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed
 books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.
 http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually
 -impaired-funds-books-in-braille.html

 --
 Avinash Shahi
 Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU

 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th



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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
Being Braille interface developer for an assistive technology company, I got to 
use around 8 Braille devices.

There are 2 types of devices that are used to work with Braille.

One is known as Braille Display or Braille Line or Braille Panel. This device 
can connect with computer via USB or can connect via mobile phone or computer 
via Bluetooth. A Braille Display does not have any internal storage and is 
driven by the external devices such as a mobile phone or computer. Such devices 
come with or without input keys. If there are any input keys, there are usually 
9 keys. One is a space key and others are 8 keys for entering 8 dot computer 
Braille.

Another is a Braille note. This device in addition to a Braille display also 
has internal storage and a few apps such as email, word processor, browser, 
notepad, calculator and so on. Such devices are sort of PDAs.

These devices are very expensive. They could cost in the range of Rs. 70K to 
Rs. 5 Lakhs depending on the number of Braille cells and features. The number 
of Braille cells are in the range of 12 to 80. 12 to 20 cell devices are good 
to work with mobile phones.

Best
Dinesh
Mobile: +91 9718328272
Knowledge is a process of piling up facts; wisdom lies in their 
simplification. --Martin Fischer

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vedprakash
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:40 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'; neelima24su...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in 
Braille

No no, that is different.
Its name is something like note taker.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:09 PM
To: neelima24su...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in
Braille

Hi,
Those devices are called refreshable Braille displays. I haven't much
knowledge about them, but they are very expensive, I think a lakh rupees? I
may be absolutely wrong, but thats what I have heard.
Search the very recent AI archives for information on the development of a
low cost Braille printer as well.
Thanks.
I hope some other tech savey person having more experience with electronic
Braille may be able to throw light on refreshable Braille displays and
Braille printers/embossers.

On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about 
 that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this 
 thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

 Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn 
 braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil, 
 but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with 
 a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing 
 braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so, 
 how can students develop their spellings?

 Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw 
 some light on it? Please!

 Regards,
 Neelima


 On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nilima

 I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are 
 forwarded to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment 
 about Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the 
 blind sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in future.



 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for replying on closed topic.

 Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations, 
 which we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully 
 illogical only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so 
 called activest person.

 Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better, 
 if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes, 
 before sending it to him.

 Regards,
 neelima


 On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in 
 the article

 Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, 
 and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about 
 Braille through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to 
 be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in 
 technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, 
 Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed 
 books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.
 http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually
 -impaired-funds-books-in-braille.html

 --
 Avinash Shahi
 Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU

 

Re: [AI] About the Song by Eloquence.

2015-01-21 Thread Neelima Surve
Yes! That is lekha, who says I Love You.

Regards,
Neelima

On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I recently got the song chura liya hay ... sung by Eloquence. Who is the
 director / producer / programmer of the song? I want him to produce a
 Bengali Tagore song by Eloquence.

 The song is excellent. My friends and I myself like it. Convey our thanks to
 him.

 With best regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th



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Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 61, Issue 95

2015-01-21 Thread Premnandhini Satgunam
Some of you may find this useful: http://www.bemyeyes.org/


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[AI] Fwd: All Banking facilities for visually impaired customers, PNB Circular against CCPD Judgement

2015-01-21 Thread Employment and Placement Officer
Dear Friends,

Please find News regarding Banking for your information.

Regards,

Tushar

Dear colleagues,

Our friend and well wisher, Mr. S.S. pathak working as manager in PNB has
made available recent instructions issued by the General Manager, PNB to
its offices for making available all facilities including ATM, cheque book
and third party cheque facilities to V.I. customers.  I am forwarding the
same to you with the hope that this may prove useful for you and for those
who might be facing difficulties in availing of these facilities.

With Kind Regards

J. L. Kaul
Recipient of Padma Shri Award 2014
Secretary General
All India Confederation of the Blind
Braille Bhawan,
Sector-5, Rohini,
Delhi-110085
Mob: 9810684208
website: www.aicb.org.in






-- 


Thanks  Regards ,

MR. Tushar Jagtap,
Employment  Placement Officer,


* Poona Blind Mens Association,*

 82, Rata Peth, Kaderbhai Chowk,

Nr. Power house,Pune  411011


Cell. 9850049799 ,


email : employment@gmail.com


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[AI] hi ostin!!!!

2015-01-21 Thread Manashri Soman
On 1/18/15, Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi all.
 is any1 planning to give mpsc exam?
 can u share notes and also is there some group for it?


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 follow me on twitter.
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 contact me on skype.
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hey ostin!!!how are you???i havend seen you for long!!!what are you
doing these days???hope you are fine!!!take care. regards,manashri



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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread sanjay
I read books printed in 1980's when there were no computerized Braile
Presses in India.  But they were perfectly proofread and full of error free
from cover to cover.  I also read some English books printed in US in 1940's
and 60-s.  They were also perfectly proofread.  
 



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Neelima Surve
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:31 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in
Braille

No. You cannot say like that, I know, many times it happend, that, we
get so many increased, or decreased  dots on one paper, , when we
complain about it to them, they simply say, that, it happends just
because of machine, means, printer. Some small magzines are not going
for proof,those just come in front of us with a bunch of mistakes.

On 1/21/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Those devices are called refreshable Braille displays. I haven't much
 knowledge about them, but they are very expensive, I think a lakh
 rupees? I may be absolutely wrong, but thats what I have heard.
 Search the very recent AI archives for information on the development
 of a low cost Braille printer as well.
 Thanks.
 I hope some other tech savey person having more experience with
 electronic Braille may be able to throw light on refreshable Braille
 displays and Braille printers/embossers.

 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about
 that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this
 thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

 Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn
 braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil,
 but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with
 a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing
 braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so,
 how can students develop their spellings?

 Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw
 some light on it? Please!

 Regards,
 Neelima


 On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nilima

 I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are forwarded
 to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment about
 Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the blind
 sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in future.



 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for replying on closed topic.

 Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations, which
 we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully illogical
 only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so called
 activest person.

 Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better,
 if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes, before
 sending it to him.

 Regards,
 neelima


 On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the
 article

 Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and
 lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille
 through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to be
 preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological
 advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an
 equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed books are never
 gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired
-funds-books-in-braille.html

 --
 Avinash Shahi
 Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU

 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th



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Re: [AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar

2015-01-21 Thread neerajsaxena12456
This is laughable, makes you think what to expect from present day rulers? 
Think how to get stake in decision making, that is main streaming.
Thanks

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Subject: [AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar
From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com
Date: 22-01-2015 8.10 am


Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar


Goa chief minister Laxmikant Parsekar on Wednesday said some people are born 
with disabilities due to the mistake and negligence committed by God.

There are some brothers and sisters in the society, who are born with certain 
disabilities. God forgets to give them certain things. That is negligence on 
the part of God and for that the child has to suffer for entire life, Parsekar 
said.

Therefore, NGOs like Disability Rights Association of Goa (DRAG) have come 
into existence. The thing which God could not do, they are doing. They are 
rectifying the mistake committed by God. I would say NGOs' work is more than 
that of God, he added.

The chief minister was speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' 
on disability issues organised by DRAG at Margao town around 35 kms from Panaji 
Wednesday morning.

However, after the event, DRAG condemned chief minister's remarks, stating that 
the disabled were born to show the power of God.

CM Parskear, while speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' on 
disability at Chowgule college, Margao has said disabled people are mistake of 
God and NGOs are doing yeoman service by serving the disabled in rectifying 
God's mistake, DRAG chief Avelino D'Sa said in a statement in Panaji.

DRAG strongly objects to this statement and clarified that if God has created 
a person disabled it is to show people the power of God. Disabled people have 
more strength and will power and they are differently-abled, hence they are 
stronger than the normal people, he added.

Parsekar's comments came at a time when his cabinet colleague Ramesh Tawadkar 
had courted a controversy last week when he said that the state would set up 
centres to make LGBT people normal. The minister had retracted his statement 
after widespread criticism.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/disabled-people-are-god-s-mistake-says-goa-cm-parsekar/article1-1309376.aspx

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[AI] OT: Inviting VI runners to participate in Marathon.

2015-01-21 Thread Divyanshu Ganatra
Dear Access Indians
We at Adventures Beyond Barriers Foundation are a Not for Profit
organisation, working in the area of promoting adventure sports for
Persons with Disabilities and able bodied individuals together.
Please learn more about us at:
www.AdventuresBeyondBarriers.com

 we in association with Pinkathon,

www.pinkathon.in

 are organising a marathon in Bangalore on February 22nd 2015. This is
coming after our hugely successful similar  marathons in Pune and
Mumbai. . We are inviting female visually impaired and blind runners
to participate with us to run alongside other marathon runners in the
3KM, 5Km and 10KM category. We will be taking care of all their
registration  costs, practise and logistical arrangements. All VI
runners will be paired with and run  alongside and assisted by
professional sighted  marathon runnners.  This is  a wonderful
oppourtunity to get an equal playing field amongst ten thousand odd
women from the main stream community.
We will be most thankful if you could help spread the word amongst VI
individuals and institutes working for VI students and adults. We are
thankful to Madhu Singhal, from  Mitra Jyoti for her support.
Interested individuals may please contact on +919890993825
Or write to adventuresbeyondbarri...@gmail.com

Thank you for all your support and appreciate any leads for interested
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Re: [AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar

2015-01-21 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Well, if theism is accepted, which most of the people do, and I don't,  then 
what is wrong in admitting that god can commit mistakes and negligence?
Perhaps, theism does not admit of any such possibility on the part of the 
omnipotent.

But it is too much to assert that disabled people are created to show god's 
power!

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Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:10 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar


Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar


Goa chief minister Laxmikant Parsekar on Wednesday said some people are born 
with disabilities due to the mistake and negligence committed by God.

There are some brothers and sisters in the society, who are born with certain 
disabilities. God forgets to give them certain things. That is negligence on 
the part of God and for that the child has to suffer for entire life, Parsekar 
said.

Therefore, NGOs like Disability Rights Association of Goa (DRAG) have come 
into existence. The thing which God could not do, they are doing. They are 
rectifying the mistake committed by God. I would say NGOs' work is more than 
that of God, he added.

The chief minister was speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' 
on disability issues organised by DRAG at Margao town around 35 kms from Panaji 
Wednesday morning.

However, after the event, DRAG condemned chief minister's remarks, stating that 
the disabled were born to show the power of God.

CM Parskear, while speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' on 
disability at Chowgule college, Margao has said disabled people are mistake of 
God and NGOs are doing yeoman service by serving the disabled in rectifying 
God's mistake, DRAG chief Avelino D'Sa said in a statement in Panaji.

DRAG strongly objects to this statement and clarified that if God has created 
a person disabled it is to show people the power of God. Disabled people have 
more strength and will power and they are differently-abled, hence they are 
stronger than the normal people, he added.

Parsekar's comments came at a time when his cabinet colleague Ramesh Tawadkar 
had courted a controversy last week when he said that the state would set up 
centres to make LGBT people normal. The minister had retracted his statement 
after widespread criticism.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/disabled-people-are-god-s-mistake-says-goa-cm-parsekar/article1-1309376.aspx

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[AI] access whatsapp through web browser

2015-01-21 Thread Divyanshu Ganatra
interestingdevelopment .. although of nnot much use if i have to
keep my phone connected. will be keen to watch this space from
accessibility perspective.
please do give it a spin and comment.
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/gadgets/now-access-whatsapp-in-web-browser/article6811021.ece



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[AI] Fwd: KB TOI : Windows 10 to be free for Windows 7, 8 users

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Re: [AI] regarding accessibility of flipkart

2015-01-21 Thread Amit Bhatt
I suspect you have been facing this popup while trying to venture to
Flipkart site through Internet explorer.

Its a security risk and IE identified your code as a cross site
scripting attack. This popup can be hidden by the user by lowering his
browser security level and is not recommended. However, you may modify
this setting as desired under security tab. Check whether security
zone level is set to default.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt



On 1/21/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Respected members, I am facing problem while brouzing flipkart
 website. I am regularly getting this message, This page is accessing
 the information that is not under its control, this poses security
 risks, do you want to continue?

 this message is appearing each time when I am opening a new link which
 has made me extremely annoyed. rather I am having problem in reading
 all review on any product page. I am clicking on read more button, but
 it is not showing complete review.
 I have brouzed the mobile version of its website, but that has very
 limited functionality.

 --
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 PhD Candidate in Center for International Law, JNU, New Delhi
 Phone: 0955765 / 927879



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[AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar

2015-01-21 Thread Vikas Kapoor

Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar


Goa chief minister Laxmikant Parsekar on Wednesday said some people are born 
with disabilities due to the mistake and negligence committed by God.

There are some brothers and sisters in the society, who are born with certain 
disabilities. God forgets to give them certain things. That is negligence on 
the part of God and for that the child has to suffer for entire life, Parsekar 
said.

Therefore, NGOs like Disability Rights Association of Goa (DRAG) have come 
into existence. The thing which God could not do, they are doing. They are 
rectifying the mistake committed by God. I would say NGOs' work is more than 
that of God, he added.

The chief minister was speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' 
on disability issues organised by DRAG at Margao town around 35 kms from Panaji 
Wednesday morning.

However, after the event, DRAG condemned chief minister's remarks, stating that 
the disabled were born to show the power of God.

CM Parskear, while speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' on 
disability at Chowgule college, Margao has said disabled people are mistake of 
God and NGOs are doing yeoman service by serving the disabled in rectifying 
God's mistake, DRAG chief Avelino D'Sa said in a statement in Panaji.

DRAG strongly objects to this statement and clarified that if God has created 
a person disabled it is to show people the power of God. Disabled people have 
more strength and will power and they are differently-abled, hence they are 
stronger than the normal people, he added.

Parsekar's comments came at a time when his cabinet colleague Ramesh Tawadkar 
had courted a controversy last week when he said that the state would set up 
centres to make LGBT people normal. The minister had retracted his statement 
after widespread criticism.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/disabled-people-are-god-s-mistake-says-goa-cm-parsekar/article1-1309376.aspx

Vikas Kapoor,
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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
The space bar comes very handy when we are typing on the Braille display. We 
can type in a computer or a mobile with the help of Braille keyboard. When you 
are typing on a Braille keyboard, you wouldn't want to go to your computer just 
to press space. Space bar is also used as a modifier key i.e. it can combine 
with other keys to issue commands. These commands are screen reader specific. 
An example of a command could be space bar + dot 1 and dot 4 to copy text, as 
dot 1 and 4 are character c in Braille. Similarly space + dot 1, dot 4 and dot 
5, Braille d,  is usually a command to report date / time.


Best
Dinesh
Mobile: +91 9718328272
Knowledge is a process of piling up facts; wisdom lies in their 
simplification. --Martin Fischer

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Neelima Surve
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:43 PM
To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in 
Braille

Yes! That is braille note  taker.

Dinesh Sir, can you please explain the functions of all the keys on
braille display? Especially, when we can use space in computer, then,
why there is a space bar key on braille display?

Sorry if my question seems irrelevant.

Regards,
Neelima

On 1/21/15, Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
 No no, that is different.
 Its name is something like note taker.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Bhavya shah
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:09 PM
 To: neelima24su...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
 accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in
 Braille

 Hi,
 Those devices are called refreshable Braille displays. I haven't much
 knowledge about them, but they are very expensive, I think a lakh rupees? I
 may be absolutely wrong, but thats what I have heard.
 Search the very recent AI archives for information on the development of a
 low cost Braille printer as well.
 Thanks.
 I hope some other tech savey person having more experience with electronic
 Braille may be able to throw light on refreshable Braille displays and
 Braille printers/embossers.

 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about
 that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this
 thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

 Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn
 braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil,
 but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with
 a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing
 braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so,
 how can students develop their spellings?

 Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw
 some light on it? Please!

 Regards,
 Neelima


 On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nilima

 I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are
 forwarded to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment
 about Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the
 blind sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in
 future.



 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for replying on closed topic.

 Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations,
 which we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully
 illogical only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so
 called activest person.

 Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better,
 if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes,
 before sending it to him.

 Regards,
 neelima


 On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in
 the article

 Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script,
 and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about
 Braille through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to
 be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in
 technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones,
 Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed
 books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.
 http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually
 -impaired-funds-books-in-braille.html

 --
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[AI] The Role and Value of the Teacher of the Visually Impaired with Marla Runyan.(courtesy perkins)

2015-01-21 Thread Manish Agarwal
CHAPTER 1: Introduction
The Role and Value of the Teacher of the Visually Impaired with Marla Runyan.
RUNYAN: When I turned nine years old and the first day of school in
the fourth grade I went into my classroom and sat down at my desk, and
the teacher started writing on the chalkboard, and I looked up and I
couldn't see what she was writing. In fact it didn't look like there
was anything there or it was like a couple of dashed lines. And I
thought, What's wrong with her chalk? And it never occurred to me
that there was something wrong with my vision.
The deterioration in my retinas occurred very slowly over the summer,
and I was pretty active outside and so I wasn't doing a lot of reading
or detailed tasks. That was the first time I began to experience
having a vision impairment. What I didn't know is that my acuity had
already fallen to 2,200, which is the level of legal blindness.
And it wasn't very long after that first day of school that I could no
longer see my textbooks in school or worksheets, chalkboard, overhead
projectors, all that stuff. Basically almost all print became
unaccessible at that point.
NARRATOR: A school photograph of Marla Runyan at about age nine is
shown. She wears a purple shirt with a line of embroidered flowers
down the front.
RUNYAN: Initially, in my home school district there were no services.
And this is going back to the late '70s. The laws were brand new in
terms of least restrictive environment and I ended up changing
districts. And by the time I was middle school, and that was the first
time... by the time I reached sixth grade, that was the very first
time in my life I actually had a teacher for the visually impaired
supporting me in my academics.
I had a... I was in a mainstream sixth grade classroom, and for one
hour a day I would go to the VI resource room where my TVI made sure
that I had all of my materials accessible, would help me get caught up
on schoolwork because I was very slow. What was really important for
me was that that I had a person, I had a teacher in my life who
understood what it was like to be visually impaired. And that in
itself was so personally significant that it was like when you are the
only student in a school of hundreds or even thousands, where you were
the only one who is visually impaired, or there's only a few other
students who are, you feel that you are misunderstood or that no one
understands what it's like.
And then to have this teacher in your life who not only is there to
help support you academically, but is someone who understands what
you're going through, and, in a way, it's a comfort and it's that time
to just be myself and not feel like I have to pretend I can see, I can
just be myself. And that was really -- the role that that teacher
played in my life for the three years in middle school, he had a very
significant role in my life.
CHAPTER 2: The Impact of Visual Impairment on Incidental Learning
RUNYAN: What people don't realize is how much knowledge about the
world that a child, a fully sighted child brings to the kindergarten
grade level when they first enter school -- what they've learned just
through visual observation of their world. They've watched their mom
or dad make dinner. They've watched the routines of the day in their
home. They've traveled, they've seen, they've witnessed and learned
through that visual observation so many things, including social
skills, including communication skills and language skills, and it
goes on and on.
A young boy who is blind is being taught how to set the table for lunch.
NARRATOR: In a photograph, a young boy who is blind is being taught
how to set the table for lunch. A teacher watches as the boy places a
green plastic plate on the table. This is an example of a task that a
child who is sighted would encounter through incidental learning,
something that must be specifically taught to a child who is blind or
visually impaired.
RUNYAN: Then you have to think about how that information plays a r
So there's all these little pieces of missing information that the TVI
understands that that's going to impact that child's learning. And so
that's why that TVI is so crucial is coming in and being able to spend
direct service time with that student and figuring out does this
student have all the conceptual background knowledge to understand
this list of spelling words? Does this student have all the background
knowledge to understand this story that's taking place in another
country when she's never seen a map? She doesn't know the shape of the
country or what the world looks like.
So we come in and we say, as a TVI, you're looking at what knowledge
and what foundational concepts might be missing or lacking for this
student that's going to impact her success in the classroom. And
that's such a significant role that I think many other educators or
administrators overlook that it's not just t
Marla working with a teenaged boy who is blind on some concepts in science.
NARRATOR: We see in 

Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread ram
I am sorry dear modarator that this topic was actually closed. I regret 
sending my letter after the topic was closed. I did not note the closure.


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Braille




I read books printed in 1980's when there were no computerized Braile
Presses in India.  But they were perfectly proofread and full of error 
free
from cover to cover.  I also read some English books printed in US in 
1940's

and 60-s.  They were also perfectly proofread.




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Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books 
in

Braille

No. You cannot say like that, I know, many times it happend, that, we
get so many increased, or decreased  dots on one paper, , when we
complain about it to them, they simply say, that, it happends just
because of machine, means, printer. Some small magzines are not going
for proof,those just come in front of us with a bunch of mistakes.

On 1/21/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
Those devices are called refreshable Braille displays. I haven't much
knowledge about them, but they are very expensive, I think a lakh
rupees? I may be absolutely wrong, but thats what I have heard.
Search the very recent AI archives for information on the development
of a low cost Braille printer as well.
Thanks.
I hope some other tech savey person having more experience with
electronic Braille may be able to throw light on refreshable Braille
displays and Braille printers/embossers.

On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about
that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this
thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn
braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil,
but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with
a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing
braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so,
how can students develop their spellings?

Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw
some light on it? Please!

Regards,
Neelima


On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Nilima

I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are forwarded
to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment about
Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the blind
sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in future.



On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry for replying on closed topic.

Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations, which
we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully illogical
only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so called
activest person.

Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better,
if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes, before
sending it to him.

Regards,
neelima


On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:

I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the
article

Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, 
and

lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille
through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to be
preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological
advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an
equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed books are never
gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.


http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired
-funds-books-in-braille.html


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Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th



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[AI] T-20 blind cricket series between Kerala and Karnataka

2015-01-21 Thread Anil Kumar
T-20 BLIND CRICKET SERIES BETWEEN KERALA  KARNATAKA ON 24th  25th
JANUARY 2015 AT ST. JOSEPH COLLEGE DEVAGIRI GROUND KOZHIKODE, KERALA:

Cricket Association for Blind in Kerala (CABK) (Vision Through
Cricket), an affiliated body of Cricket Association for Blind in India
(CABI), is the Association to prop up, promote and propagate cricket
for blind in Kerala.  As part of its cricketing activities, after the
successful organization  of Kerala vs Tamilnadu T20 series, CABK is
organising an interstate T-20 blind cricket series between Kerala and
Karnataka which will be taken place on 24th and 25th January 2015 at
St. Joseph College Devagiri Ground Kozhikod.

The series will be inaugurated by Mr. Kamal Varadoor, the renowned
Sports reporter. Honourable Member of Parliament Shri. MK Rakhavan has
given consent to honour the players in the world cup winning Indian
squad in a special function organized at 6pm on 24th Saturday.

In this series also, ChricHQ (our technology partner) will give live
update.  The anthroid app for this site is available in play store.

Another important feature of this series is that apart from regular
prize mony there will be a player of the tournament award and the
prize is a Tab sponsored by Cric HQ.


8 Indian team members including the Captain of Indian team, who have
recently brought the Blind Cricket World Cup to India, will
participate in this series.

We believe that after the Blind Cricket World Cup 2014 which was held
in South Africa, in which India Won, the popularity of Blind Cricket
has been increased.

There will be 3 20-20 matches in this series.  The fixture is furnished below:
Saturday, 24 January 2015 (Day-I)
09:00AM Inaugural Ceremony

Match 1:09:30AM-11:05AM(1st Innings)11:15AM-12:50PM (2nd 
Innings-Chasing)

Sunday, 25 January 2015 (Day-II)
Match 2:08:30AM-10:05AM(1st Innings)10:15AM-11:50AM (2nd 
Innings-Chasing)

Match 3:01:00PM-02:35PM (1st Innings)   02:45PM-04:20PM (2nd 
Innings-Chasing)

04:30PM Closing Ceremony  Prize Distribution

The list of players of both teams and the fixture are available in the
website of CricHQ.  Please Click on the below link to get access to
the Series:
https://www.crichq.com/#competitions/5522/draws/12673/rounds

-- 
With Best Regards,

(Anilkumar K.R.)
Joint Secretary
Cricket Association for Blind in Kerala
(Vision through Cricket)

Email:cricket4bl...@gmail.com / cabkker...@gmail.com

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[AI] test mail!

2015-01-21 Thread Amit Pahuja
I've been sending quite a few mails on the list. i can see my own messages.
however, i don't get replies. so i was wondering are my messages coming
in?lastly i sent few replies on prashant sir's IRCTC thread. did they reach
to the list?
P.s, i apologise, if i've offended list's guidelines of not to send test
mails on the list.
Reply
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Re: [AI] test mail!

2015-01-21 Thread Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi
your mail is reaching.

On 1/21/15, Amit Pahuja amitpahuja...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been sending quite a few mails on the list. i can see my own messages.
 however, i don't get replies. so i was wondering are my messages coming
 in?lastly i sent few replies on prashant sir's IRCTC thread. did they reach
 to the list?
 P.s, i apologise, if i've offended list's guidelines of not to send test
 mails on the list.
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[AI] The latest alerts from Eyeway

2015-01-21 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Dear Listers:

Please go through the latest alerts from Eyeway:

A Danish team has developed a new iPhone app that lets sighted people help
the visually challenged whenever they need it. Called Be My Eyes, the app
connects the sighted with the visually challenged using video chat. The app
takes advantage of an iPhone feature called VoiceOver, which lets the
visually challenged use the device with the help of synthetic speech. The
visually impaired may get help from the sighted for tasks like checking the
expiry date on a carton of milk or crossing a street.  More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=app-connect-you-blind

Three posts for Low Vision as Attendant cum Technician (Machinist) in Steel
Authority of India Limited, Salem Steel Plant, Tamilnadu.
Qualification: Matriculation
with ITI (full time) in Machinist Trade from Govt. Recognised Institute.
Last date 9th February.  Apply online. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs
 or 17 January employment News page 9


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Helpdesk:+91 - 11 - 460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
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Email:bi...@eyeway.org
Websites: scorefoundation.org.in http://www.scorefoundation.org.in/
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Re: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage

2015-01-21 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Friends,

Thanks for your response, but my query is pretty clear- offline usage
of maps and iether on iOs or android operating systems.

Thanks allot



On 1/21/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello List Members,

 Few of my sighted friends who have windows phone, use offline maps.
 They shared that they are able to use it even without any internet
 connection on their phone device.
 Only downside is that it is heavy to save.

 I would be thankful to know as to how can I use it on either on iPhone
 or android intex phone.

 Please do let know if any of you is using it.





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   ***

 I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
 something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
 the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should
 do, by the grace of God, I will do.
 EDWARD EVERETT HALE.



-- 
  ***

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something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should
do, by the grace of God, I will do.
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[AI] Imagica by BGFI was fantastic

2015-01-21 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Hey guys,

We 50 of us, both VIs and sighted visited arguably the best amusing
park in Asia; Adlabs Imagica last Sunday under the banner of BGFI-
Blind Graduates Forum of India.

I collected some of best memories from there. Like, experience 90
degrees fall, absolutely breath taking simulations, and of course
company of few humorous people in our group.

My sub group made the most of it as we kept repeating our exciting
rides on Nitro, D2, Screaming machine, Deep space and Robosaurus
River. Few of simulation theme parks were just so memorable, I dreamt
of them in my sleep the same night like those of Salimgarh,
Wrathofgods, Mr. India, and the best was I for India.

I hope people when making an itinerary to Mumbai also includes Imagica
in their list))

Lastly, thank you BGFI for organising such a smooth event which made
it a memorable day...





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the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should
do, by the grace of God, I will do.
EDWARD EVERETT HALE.



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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread Vedprakash
Yes, there are some devices which can display one or two lines at a time.
These devices are very handy and also are very easy to use.
There are six keys which can be used to key in the text input like we type
in brailler.
There is no need of papers if such devices can be made available for the
school students.
They can take notes very easily and without disturbing anybody. I just
forgot the name of the device. But the device is very useful for all those
who wish to make braille their first choice.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Dinesh Kaushal
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 1:04 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in
Braille

Yes, even I used to believe that one must learn Braille at least during
primary school, but many children who are tech savvy are proving that it is
not necessary. Adults talking about the need for blind children without
knowing their perspective is similar to sighted people talking about the
needs of persons with blindness without knowing what they think about it.

Similarly, many sighted people who thought that they cannot do without
physical books are now switching to kindles and the likes. Sooner or later,
all paper books be it Braille or print, are going to be extinct, so we would
have to focus on electronic Braille.

So if we really want to preserve Braille, then we need to focus on making
electronic books readable and affordable with Braille devices rather than
printing braille books in paper, because paper books are bulky,
expensive(Braille books cost a lot if subsidy is considered), and making 50
lakhs books available in Braille seems impossible even for the richest
countries in the world. On another note, printing Braille books is also
environmentally detrimental.

My main problem with such announcements is that mainstream media does not
realize that there is something known as assistive technology, so for anyone
who wants to be seen doing good work for the blind is compelled to use
Braille as a symbolic gesture.

Imagine a debate in the government office about whether to work on
electronic books or on Braille books. 

Best
Dinesh
Mobile: +91 9718328272
Knowledge is a process of piling up facts; wisdom lies in their
simplification. --Martin Fischer

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of vivek doddamani
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:23 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in
Braille

The importance of braille for visually impaired persons is just like printed
letters for sighted persons, for visually impaire children while starting
school the braille is must without braille knowledge one cannot improve the
language thoroughly to know the spelling of any word braille is must though
computer is there if you read by computers or dezi readers but reading by
braille willbe efficient  will be in memory for long time.

On 1/20/15, sachu ramalingam sachuramalinga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 I completely  agree  that Mr. Abedi ought to tender an unequivocal  
 public apology  to the visually impaired community.

 It is  aso equally  important  for the pionner to  apologise for 
 publishing  a statement from a person who has nothing what so ever 
 with the  Braille or visual impairment. Are  there derth of people in 
 new delhi from whom opinion  could have been taken.

 Regards

 Sachu Ramalingam
 On 19 Jan 2015 18:28, Radio Udaan radioud...@gmail.com wrote:

 dear all,
 on behalf of radio udaan we also strongly condemn this statements of 
 Javed Abidi.

 On 1/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've forwarded the mail to Mr Abidi Dear Javed Abidi please see the 
  conversation/thread and it would be great if you justify your claim 
  or offer an apology to the blind community.
 
 
 
  On 1/19/15, AICB aicbdelhi.110...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear friends,
  On behalf of All India Confederation of the Blind, we condemn in 
  the strongest of expressions, the statement quoted to have been 
  made by Mr. Javed Abidi about the relevance of Braille in the 
  context of Government's initiatives to modernize Braille presses in
the country.
  The discussion in reference to this statement, so far, has largely 
  focused on justifying the relative merits of Braille in relation 
  to other technologies. To us however, apart from what has been 
  said by others supporting Braille, the issues underlying this 
  discourse are much deeper than that.
  While we can debate the relative merits of a particular format of 
  accessibility in reference to other applicable formats used by the 
  visually impaired, the right to enter into a discussion of this 
  nature, in our view, 

[AI] book needed

2015-01-21 Thread Preeti Bhutani
Hello  ,

I am looking for ebook the chase written by  Janet evanovich and lee
goldberg .



If anybody has it please share with me

Thanks and regards

Preeeti


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[AI] Amazing: 10 Incredible Stories About Blind People

2015-01-21 Thread avinash shahi
Note: I'm only sharing the URL because entire article if pasted would
ruin the charm of vidios.
Its true this list consists of people who have done wonders in the
west; can we collate a list consisting of blind brilliant minds born
in India and south asia?
http://brainmysteries.com/10-incredible-stories-blind-people/
-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] PNB CIRCULAR - Providing banking facilities to Visually Impaired Persons

2015-01-21 Thread Rajendran Varadharajilu
Sir please attach the copy of circular my mail.
On Jan 21, 2015 2:26 PM, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was there any other circular issued previously stating that no
 undertaking be asked for or something on those lines? If not, then
 beautifully drafted circular, without taking the onus of saying that
 our earlier restrictions stand withdrawn. So the possibility of branch
 manager insisting for an undertaking cannot be ignored. Since he may
 just not know about the June 2014 order and the current order (a copy
 of which is not available online).
 As this circular states nothing more and nothing less than what is
 their in the master circular.
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[AI] Fwd: [jnuvision] New technical education schemes launched for women, specially-abled children

2015-01-21 Thread avinash shahi
-- Forwarded message --
From: librar...@mail.jnu.ac.in [jnuvision] jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:51:12 +0530
Subject: [jnuvision] New technical education schemes launched for
women, specially-abled children
To: jnuvision jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com


New technical education schemes launched for women, specially-abled children


The government Tues day launched two schemes in the area of technical
education -one for differently-abled children and another for women
-on the occasion of National Education Day.


The schemes, Pragati and Saksham, to be implemented by the All India
Council for Technical Education, were launched here in the presence of
President Pranab Mukherjee and Human Resource Development Minister
Smriti Irani, among others.


P r a g at i , wh i ch i s aimed at providing assistance for
advancement of girl participation in technical education, envisages
selection of one girl per family, where the family income is less than
Rs.6 lakh per annum, on merit in the qualifying examination to pursue
technical education.


The scheme attempts to give every young woman the opportunity to
further her education and prepare for a successful future. Saksham is
aimed at providing encouragement and support to specially-abled
children to pursue technical education.


Under the scheme, 1,000 scholarships every year will be awarded to
differently abled students whose family income is less than Rs.6 lakh
per annum. The candidates will be selected on basis of qualifying
examination to pursue technical education in AICTE approved
institutions from amongst such candidates.


According to the ministry, the scholarship money will ensure students
with disabilities achieve their college goals, despite learning
issues, environmental challenges, or medical bills. AGENCIES



Source | Economic Times | 19 January 2015


Regards


Pralhad Jadhav
Khaitan  Co.




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Re: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage

2015-01-21 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
I'm not so sure whether google has offline map data but you need to update 
it frequently and it might not be accurate some times.  also it consumes 
much space.  but onething is sure that you can refine your search if you use 
online map but not in offline.
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To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:42 PM
Subject: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage



Hello List Members,

Few of my sighted friends who have windows phone, use offline maps.
They shared that they are able to use it even without any internet
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Only downside is that it is heavy to save.

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Re: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage

2015-01-21 Thread Rahul Kelapure
Hi Ekinath,

In Android phones, when you go to Maps and search a location, there is
an option for saving the map on your device for later use.  You may
save it there and use it when necessary.

However, I noticed that, sometimes the spoken directions are not
announced but it shows on the screen. However, I need to explore it a
little better.

Hope that helps.

On 1/21/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello List Members,

 Few of my sighted friends who have windows phone, use offline maps.
 They shared that they are able to use it even without any internet
 connection on their phone device.
 Only downside is that it is heavy to save.

 I would be thankful to know as to how can I use it on either on iPhone
 or android intex phone.

 Please do let know if any of you is using it.





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Re: [AI] PNB CIRCULAR - Providing banking facilities to Visually Impaired Persons

2015-01-21 Thread Amar Jain
Was there any other circular issued previously stating that no
undertaking be asked for or something on those lines? If not, then
beautifully drafted circular, without taking the onus of saying that
our earlier restrictions stand withdrawn. So the possibility of branch
manager insisting for an undertaking cannot be ignored. Since he may
just not know about the June 2014 order and the current order (a copy
of which is not available online).
As this circular states nothing more and nothing less than what is
their in the master circular.
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Re: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage

2015-01-21 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
no no no he is not asking that indeed.  offline map data just like ovi map 
which was available before.
- Original Message - 
From: Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage



Hi Ekinath,

In Android phones, when you go to Maps and search a location, there is
an option for saving the map on your device for later use.  You may
save it there and use it when necessary.

However, I noticed that, sometimes the spoken directions are not
announced but it shows on the screen. However, I need to explore it a
little better.

Hope that helps.

On 1/21/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello List Members,

Few of my sighted friends who have windows phone, use offline maps.
They shared that they are able to use it even without any internet
connection on their phone device.
Only downside is that it is heavy to save.

I would be thankful to know as to how can I use it on either on iPhone
or android intex phone.

Please do let know if any of you is using it.





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something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should
do, by the grace of God, I will do.
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Re: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage

2015-01-21 Thread HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI
You can try nokia here map of nokia for anroid in which you can try offline 
as well.

Thanks
HS Negi


- Original Message - 
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage


no no no he is not asking that indeed.  offline map data just like ovi map 
which was available before.
- Original Message - 
From: Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage



Hi Ekinath,

In Android phones, when you go to Maps and search a location, there is
an option for saving the map on your device for later use.  You may
save it there and use it when necessary.

However, I noticed that, sometimes the spoken directions are not
announced but it shows on the screen. However, I need to explore it a
little better.

Hope that helps.

On 1/21/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello List Members,

Few of my sighted friends who have windows phone, use offline maps.
They shared that they are able to use it even without any internet
connection on their phone device.
Only downside is that it is heavy to save.

I would be thankful to know as to how can I use it on either on iPhone
or android intex phone.

Please do let know if any of you is using it.





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do, by the grace of God, I will do.
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Re: [AI] Query regarding offline map usage

2015-01-21 Thread Amar Jain
Google maps allows us to save the map for offline usage, but voice
navigation does not work.

For a detailed discussion, request you to post it on the mobile mailing list.

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[AI] regarding accessibility of flipkart

2015-01-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
Respected members, I am facing problem while brouzing flipkart
website. I am regularly getting this message, This page is accessing
the information that is not under its control, this poses security
risks, do you want to continue?

this message is appearing each time when I am opening a new link which
has made me extremely annoyed. rather I am having problem in reading
all review on any product page. I am clicking on read more button, but
it is not showing complete review.
I have brouzed the mobile version of its website, but that has very
limited functionality.

-- 
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PhD Candidate in Center for International Law, JNU, New Delhi
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[AI] Katrina Kaif looks beautiful in shots by a visually impaired photographer

2015-01-21 Thread avinash shahi
If I'm not wrong the photographer Bhavesh Patel is on AI list?
Congratulations to him!
This add of lux perfume should inspire others to show blind people in
positive light. I'm not pasting the story because you will not get the
vidio. please visit:
http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/katrina-kaif-looks-beautiful-in-shots-of-a-visually-impaired-photographer/

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Re: [AI] Imagica by BGFI was fantastic

2015-01-21 Thread suhas J
hi friends i and my dad also enjoyed a lote. we also had a great time.
we also liked i for india ride very much i also enjoyed the dinosor
wala ride. that was the ride that i enjoyed very much. i also enjoyed
the mister india ride. as i sat on that after haveing my food my food
got dyjested very quickly. i also enjoyed walking through imajika as
the road was plane without any stones. this trip would remain in my
memary for very long time thanks bgfi for gifting me with that great
day.

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 Hey guys,

 We 50 of us, both VIs and sighted visited arguably the best amusing
 park in Asia; Adlabs Imagica last Sunday under the banner of BGFI-
 Blind Graduates Forum of India.

 I collected some of best memories from there. Like, experience 90
 degrees fall, absolutely breath taking simulations, and of course
 company of few humorous people in our group.

 My sub group made the most of it as we kept repeating our exciting
 rides on Nitro, D2, Screaming machine, Deep space and Robosaurus
 River. Few of simulation theme parks were just so memorable, I dreamt
 of them in my sleep the same night like those of Salimgarh,
 Wrathofgods, Mr. India, and the best was I for India.

 I hope people when making an itinerary to Mumbai also includes Imagica
 in their list))

 Lastly, thank you BGFI for organising such a smooth event which made
 it a memorable day...





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[AI] Did AICB send any proposal in the coming budget.

2015-01-21 Thread Madhav kumar
Dear Sir,

May please advise if AICB has sent any proposal to Ministry of Finance for
PWDs for this year Buget.

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[AI] Thane mall is probably the only visually-impaired friendly in the country

2015-01-21 Thread avinash shahi
The details provided in the report sound very interesting. Can we hear
more on this from Dr Taraporewala and Mr Ketan Kothari? both have been
quoted in the article.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Thane-mall-is-probably-the-only-visually-impaired-friendly-in-the-country/articleshow/45964807.cms

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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread Bhavya shah
Hi,
Those devices are called refreshable Braille displays. I haven't much
knowledge about them, but they are very expensive, I think a lakh
rupees? I may be absolutely wrong, but thats what I have heard.
Search the very recent AI archives for information on the development
of a low cost Braille printer as well.
Thanks.
I hope some other tech savey person having more experience with
electronic Braille may be able to throw light on refreshable Braille
displays and Braille printers/embossers.

On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about
 that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this
 thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

 Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn
 braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil,
 but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with
 a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing
 braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so,
 how can students develop their spellings?

 Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw
 some light on it? Please!

 Regards,
 Neelima


 On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nilima

 I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are forwarded
 to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment about
 Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the blind
 sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in future.



 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for replying on closed topic.

 Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations, which
 we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully illogical
 only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so called
 activest person.

 Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better,
 if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes, before
 sending it to him.

 Regards,
 neelima


 On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the
 article

 Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and
 lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille
 through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to be
 preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological
 advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an
 equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed books are never
 gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.
 http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired-funds-books-in-braille.html

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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread Vedprakash
No no, that is different.
Its name is something like note taker.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:09 PM
To: neelima24su...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in
Braille

Hi,
Those devices are called refreshable Braille displays. I haven't much
knowledge about them, but they are very expensive, I think a lakh rupees? I
may be absolutely wrong, but thats what I have heard.
Search the very recent AI archives for information on the development of a
low cost Braille printer as well.
Thanks.
I hope some other tech savey person having more experience with electronic
Braille may be able to throw light on refreshable Braille displays and
Braille printers/embossers.

On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about 
 that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this 
 thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

 Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn 
 braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil, 
 but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with 
 a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing 
 braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so, 
 how can students develop their spellings?

 Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw 
 some light on it? Please!

 Regards,
 Neelima


 On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nilima

 I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are 
 forwarded to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment 
 about Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the 
 blind sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in future.



 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for replying on closed topic.

 Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations, 
 which we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully 
 illogical only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so 
 called activest person.

 Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better, 
 if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes, 
 before sending it to him.

 Regards,
 neelima


 On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in 
 the article

 Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, 
 and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about 
 Braille through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to 
 be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in 
 technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, 
 Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed 
 books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.
 http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually
 -impaired-funds-books-in-braille.html

 --
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 Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU

 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th



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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread Neelima Surve
Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about
that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this
thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn
braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil,
but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with
a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing
braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so,
how can students develop their spellings?

Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw
some light on it? Please!

Regards,
Neelima


On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nilima

 I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are forwarded
 to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment about
 Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the blind
 sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in future.



 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for replying on closed topic.

 Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations, which
 we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully illogical
 only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so called
 activest person.

 Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better,
 if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes, before
 sending it to him.

 Regards,
 neelima


 On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the
 article

 Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and
 lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille
 through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to be
 preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological
 advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an
 equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed books are never
 gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.
 http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired-funds-books-in-braille.html

 --
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 Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU

 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th



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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread sanjay
No.   there are not using outdated machines, but the books are not well
proofread.


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Of Neelima Surve
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:01 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in
Braille

Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about
that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this
thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn
braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil,
but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with
a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing
braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so,
how can students develop their spellings?

Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw
some light on it? Please!

Regards,
Neelima


On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nilima

 I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are forwarded
 to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment about
 Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the blind
 sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in future.



 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for replying on closed topic.

 Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations, which
 we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully illogical
 only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so called
 activest person.

 Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better,
 if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes, before
 sending it to him.

 Regards,
 neelima


 On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the
 article

 Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and
 lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille
 through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to be
 preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological
 advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an
 equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed books are never
 gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired
-funds-books-in-braille.html

 --
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 Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU

 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th



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Re: [AI] About the Song by Eloquence.

2015-01-21 Thread Neelima Surve
Please wait for some time. I will surely share it with you.

Regards,
Neelima

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 Hey folks! share this song with me as well on:

 sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com

 On 1/18/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Both names are correct. I can share it on your e-mail, if you put here
 or personally reply me.

 Regards,
 neelima

 On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I recently got the song chura liya hay ... sung by Eloquence. Who is
 the
 director / producer / programmer of the song? I want him to produce a
 Bengali Tagore song by Eloquence.

 The song is excellent. My friends and I myself like it. Convey our
 thanks
 to
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 With best regards,
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Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille

2015-01-21 Thread Neelima Surve
No. You cannot say like that, I know, many times it happend, that, we
get so many increased, or decreased  dots on one paper, , when we
complain about it to them, they simply say, that, it happends just
because of machine, means, printer. Some small magzines are not going
for proof,those just come in front of us with a bunch of mistakes.

On 1/21/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Those devices are called refreshable Braille displays. I haven't much
 knowledge about them, but they are very expensive, I think a lakh
 rupees? I may be absolutely wrong, but thats what I have heard.
 Search the very recent AI archives for information on the development
 of a low cost Braille printer as well.
 Thanks.
 I hope some other tech savey person having more experience with
 electronic Braille may be able to throw light on refreshable Braille
 displays and Braille printers/embossers.

 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your  letter. I said about
 that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this
 thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.

 Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn
 braille from their childhood, that, braille is like a paper pencil,
 but, now-a-days, I am very sad to say that, we get braille books with
 a bunch of mistakes. It is true, that  various NGOs are providing
 braille books, but, they use a very out dated machines to make it, so,
 how can students develop their spellings?

 Dear Ved Prakash Sir, what is the price of that machine? Can you throw
 some light on it? Please!

 Regards,
 Neelima


 On 1/21/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nilima

 I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are forwarded
 to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment about
 Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the blind
 sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in future.



 On 1/21/15, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for replying on closed topic.

 Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations, which
 we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully illogical
 only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so called
 activest person.

 Letter is nice. Sorry for showing mistakes, but, it would be better,
 if this letter will check again, to avoid some small mistakes, before
 sending it to him.

 Regards,
 neelima


 On 1/17/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the
 article

 Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and
 lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille
 through media.  This script is still relevant and needs to be
 preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological
 advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an
 equaliser for majority of blind people.  As printed books are never
 gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books.
 http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired-funds-books-in-braille.html

 --
 Avinash Shahi
 Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU

 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th



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