Re: [AI] require some info regarding scanner
HP 2400? this is the basic one. - Original Message - From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Hetal'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] require some info regarding scanner > Hetal, > > You can buy most of the standard flat bed scanners available in the market > and then use some optical character recognition or OCR software to > convert > your scanned images to text that Jaws or any other screen readers can > read. > Most of the HP scanners available in the market like HP or BenQ can be > used. > OCR software include FineReader or Kurzweil 1000 which is a scanning and > reading application specially designed for the blind. > > Regards, > Kiran. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hetal > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:20 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] require some info regarding scanner > > hello friends, > I would like to know if there are any scanner devices availabl with the > help > of which we can scan our books on p.c and read them. This will help me > alot > cause every time it is not possible for me to get books converted on audio > cd.I had heard about this device earlier but I dont know much about it. > thanks and regards, > Hetal. > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Kasha
who are you to tell me nonsens? I'm sure that you are a fool now. - Original Message - From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Kasha > please stop nonsense. and Kiran please don't let these messages come on > the > list. The list is sounding a schoolboys' group > - Original Message - > From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Kasha > > >> hae, come on? >> >> Please don't keep into your mind. since I'm the only person expressing >> all >> these things to the list, they all started saying that I'm the frestrated >> person and they are saying it through the list and sending mails to me in >> person as well. Even the moderator is also thinking that I'm the person >> against the list. so, all of you those who have their own personal >> experiences with regard to this may kindly express it here or to the >> moderator in person. >> >> Kasha. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Kasha >> >> >>>I fully aggree that only a few members are getting opportunity to express >>>thier opinion on list. eg. i had sent my introduction it was not >>>farwarded >>>to the members. my sincere request is that every member must and should >>>get >>>the equal opportunity. >>> at least they should have the curtacy to welcome the new members. >>> with regards >>> dattu agarwal >>> lecturer Govt. P.U.College Gulbarga >>> Ph. 08472223044 >>> mobile 9886678744 >>> >>> rajany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> oh, Kaja, >>> Have you even come to the extend of threatening the members? >>> "If you do not stop >>>>> grumbling on the list for each and every small thing, I am going to do >>>>> far >>>>> worst things to you than banning you from the list." >>> I am reminded of Mr. Zia ul huk of Pakistan. >>> Every dictator had his own painful death. >>> However genius you are Kara, have the emotion named "shame" before >>> spitting >>> out such threats. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Kasha" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:24 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Kasha >>> >>> >>>> Kiran, >>>> >>>> Whatever your decision must be, I'm not at all bothered about your >>>> decision. >>>> But, as per me, your list is only for the members who they are saying >>>> yes >>>> to >>>> your words alone. If you are in this way forever, you could not lead >>>> this >>>> group for a long time. Don't think that you are the only genious in >>>> this >>>> world, also don't think only the few members are only required to your >>>> group. As per my knowledge, you are allowing only the few members to >>>> write >>>> whatever they want to. If you are running a Public Group, be impartial >>>> with >>>> all the members. >>>> >>>> If not, Change the name of the group as "Kiran's Friends' Yahoo group". >>>> >>>> Hope, this message will reach the group. whether you are blocking me or >>>> not, >>>> take it as my sincere advice and behave impartially with all the >>>> members. >>>> >>>> Kasha. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Kiran Kaja" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:43 AM >>>> Subject: [AI] Kasha >>>> >>>> >>>>> This message is for a person who calls himself as Kasha on the list. I >>>>> just >>>>> wanted to let you know that it was not at all difficult for me to >>>>> guess >>>>> who >>>>> you actually are. You may change your name and e-mail address but you >>>>> haven't changed your attitude or the style of writing. If you do not >>>>> stop >>>>> grumbling on the list for each and every small thing, I am going to do >>>>> far >>>>> worst things to you than banning you from the list. Please men
Re: [AI] Kasha
hae, come on? Please don't keep into your mind. since I'm the only person expressing all these things to the list, they all started saying that I'm the frestrated person and they are saying it through the list and sending mails to me in person as well. Even the moderator is also thinking that I'm the person against the list. so, all of you those who have their own personal experiences with regard to this may kindly express it here or to the moderator in person. Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Kasha >I fully aggree that only a few members are getting opportunity to express >thier opinion on list. eg. i had sent my introduction it was not farwarded >to the members. my sincere request is that every member must and should get >the equal opportunity. > at least they should have the curtacy to welcome the new members. > with regards > dattu agarwal > lecturer Govt. P.U.College Gulbarga > Ph. 08472223044 > mobile 9886678744 > > rajany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oh, Kaja, > Have you even come to the extend of threatening the members? > "If you do not stop >>> grumbling on the list for each and every small thing, I am going to do >>> far >>> worst things to you than banning you from the list." > I am reminded of Mr. Zia ul huk of Pakistan. > Every dictator had his own painful death. > However genius you are Kara, have the emotion named "shame" before > spitting > out such threats. > - Original Message - > From: "Kasha" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Kasha > > >> Kiran, >> >> Whatever your decision must be, I'm not at all bothered about your >> decision. >> But, as per me, your list is only for the members who they are saying yes >> to >> your words alone. If you are in this way forever, you could not lead this >> group for a long time. Don't think that you are the only genious in this >> world, also don't think only the few members are only required to your >> group. As per my knowledge, you are allowing only the few members to >> write >> whatever they want to. If you are running a Public Group, be impartial >> with >> all the members. >> >> If not, Change the name of the group as "Kiran's Friends' Yahoo group". >> >> Hope, this message will reach the group. whether you are blocking me or >> not, >> take it as my sincere advice and behave impartially with all the members. >> >> Kasha. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kiran Kaja" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:43 AM >> Subject: [AI] Kasha >> >> >>> This message is for a person who calls himself as Kasha on the list. I >>> just >>> wanted to let you know that it was not at all difficult for me to guess >>> who >>> you actually are. You may change your name and e-mail address but you >>> haven't changed your attitude or the style of writing. If you do not >>> stop >>> grumbling on the list for each and every small thing, I am going to do >>> far >>> worst things to you than banning you from the list. Please mend your >>> behavior in public and more specifically on AccessIndia before you make >>> yourself a fool in front of 300 members. I hope this message got to you >>> loud >>> and clear. And certainly, this thread is closed for discussion. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kiran. >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > - > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Yahoo! Messenger Version 8. Get > it NOW > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] want a help
try by pressing the key combination "shift plust enter?" - Original Message - From: "nilesh sonar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:40 PM Subject: [AI] want a help > hi all since last few days I have been facing a problem > whenever I click the linc it does not open in new browser > window. > suppose I am checking my mail if there is a linc of some information > and I click it then it should open in new browser window but it does > not > > > > > - > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Yahoo! Messenger Version 8. Get > it NOW > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Kasha
Kiran, Whatever your decision must be, I'm not at all bothered about your decision. But, as per me, your list is only for the members who they are saying yes to your words alone. If you are in this way forever, you could not lead this group for a long time. Don't think that you are the only genious in this world, also don't think only the few members are only required to your group. As per my knowledge, you are allowing only the few members to write whatever they want to. If you are running a Public Group, be impartial with all the members. If not, Change the name of the group as "Kiran's Friends' Yahoo group". Hope, this message will reach the group. whether you are blocking me or not, take it as my sincere advice and behave impartially with all the members. Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: [AI] Kasha > This message is for a person who calls himself as Kasha on the list. I > just > wanted to let you know that it was not at all difficult for me to guess > who > you actually are. You may change your name and e-mail address but you > haven't changed your attitude or the style of writing. If you do not stop > grumbling on the list for each and every small thing, I am going to do far > worst things to you than banning you from the list. Please mend your > behavior in public and more specifically on AccessIndia before you make > yourself a fool in front of 300 members. I hope this message got to you > loud > and clear. And certainly, this thread is closed for discussion. > > Regards, > Kiran. > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Promise Yourself
sope? - Original Message - From: "ashish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Promise Yourself > Hello friends. This access India list was formed about 5 years back. since > that time we all have come together and talked about many many different > things. > from which I have learnt a lot. This was first list which was formed in > India for talking about such technology and many topics about visually > impaired > were discussed which in turned helped all of us. . well now from pass some > days some off topic messages are coming. that does not > mean that moderator is at fault. but some members are sending such off > topic > messages. Our dear respected moderator is doing a great job. he is really > running the list very very effectively. I feel that if any member is not > satisfied with any thing going on the list or with any mail. instead of > sending > mails on the list and pin pointing on the moderator, that person should > wait > for some time and let our respected moderator > handle the matter on his own. He is really doing a commendable job. thanks > a > lot Kiran for running such a informative list from which many of us are > benefiting > a lot. we really appreciate your good work Do please keep it up. > take care > Regards > Ashish. > > > > windows messenger/msn > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype > ashishrohtagi > mobile +919896258072, website, > http://members.lycos.co.uk/ashishrohtagi/ > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Promise Yourself > > > Dear list members, > > Over the past five years or so of AccessIndia's existence, I have had to > painfully moderate a lot of discussions on the list. Sometimes I had to > use > strong language to desist people from starting strong arguments on why a > topic should or should not be discussed on the list. So far, most of you > did > not have any problem with my attitude towards running the list. But from > my > e-mail below, I get a feeling that some of you were not happy with the way > I > handled the motivational mumbo jumbo. Yes, I still insist that it is mumbo > jumbo. How many of use haven't received such e-mails daily in our inbox? > If > Onkar wants, I can spam his mailbox with mumbo jumbo like this till he > stops > checking his e-mail out of frustration. > > But I understand from Onkar's mail that some of us or at least one of us > is > not happy with the way the issue is handled. If any of you think like > that, > please let me know immediately. I have always administered the list on > majority opinion and all good suggestions from each and every member have > been implemented if found useful and relevant. I appreciate people telling > me openly if they have any concerns. I hate those who say things behind my > back. > > Yes Onkar, India is a Democracy. But it is no where mentioned that > democracy > means unlimited freedom. If so, you should not be punished or fined for > driving your car on the wrong side of the road or walking in the middle of > one. In democracy, you are supposed to adhere to certain rules and > regulations to obtain your freedom. Like other democratic institutions, > AccessIndia too has a set of rules and guidelines which have been sent to > you when you joined the list. When you do not follow these rules and > regulations, you will of course be intimated and necessary action will be > taken. Please refer to the exact definition of Democracy before commenting > on it. > > I have already put forward my view on the language that I use in my > moderated mails. One can't argue when one has violated the regulations. > > Yes Onkar, you are an ignorent person in your own way. I am sorry to say > this but you do not realize the true potential and abilities and needs of > the visually impaired persons. All your mails indicate that you lack > proper > understanding of what some of us have achieved already. Your helping hand > is > appreciated but not your high handedness. We may use your technology if it > is good. It doesn't mean that you are the only savier of the blind in the > entire world. To hell with it, you are much far from it in your actions as > well as thinking. > > I am sorry again to say that you are totally blind and not our community. > We > clearly know what our abilities are. We clearly know how to help each > other > and we clearly know how to use technology and words for our benefits. We > have seen the light of the day. It is people like you who lack vision. To > give you an example, Dinesh Kaushal has contirbuted to the development of > a > free screen reader which can potentially help blind persons get jobs and > earn money. Numerous organizations have toiled decades to provide access > to > books and education. What have you done so far except some technical mumbo > jumbo the concepts of which have been copied from somewhere anyway. Seeing
Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East
O!!! MayBe, this is your expectition but, it can be or, it can't be true though. Kasha.- Original Message - From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East >I clearly mentioned the word 'Absurd', which means if you send something > totally irrelevant, what's the point blaming the moderator. Afterall, he > is doing his job. And, irrespective of who is sending it, he is doing > his best to point out that certain messages are not for discussion. I > think we shouldn't be expecting him to spoon feed us on this. Our > commonsense must tell us which one is relevant or which one isn't. > > Also, I feel we should examine ourselves if a message is relevant or > not, by perhaps cross checking with the rules specified. If you imply > Kiran is discriminate in his condemnation, I'm sorry to say that you are > wrong. As I said, you can't expect him to thunderbolt a response each > time we post absurd things. > > Subramani > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kasha > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 3:40 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > > *** > No virus was detected in the attachment no filename > > Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. > *** > > > how it is being filtered then? do you have any idea about it? whether it > is > depends upon the person who is sending the off topic messages? > > Kasha. > - Original Message - > From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > > >> And I do think Kiran is definitely liberal. He isn't saying outright > no >> to all the off-topics. He goes by the criteria that things that of >> concern and of use to all of us, like messages on certain problems > faced >> by the disabled. However, if things posted in the group are absurd, > you >> can't blame Kiran. can you? >> >> Subramani >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George >> Abraham >> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:32 PM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East >> >> *** >> No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >> >> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >> *** >> >> >> I think it is rather unfair for us to keep taking digs at our >> moderator. >> Moderation is necessary and should be done with efficiency. Further, >> all >> of us are educated mature and responsible people, we need to be >> focused on >> the topics the group has been created for. >> >> Let me tell you, moderating is a thankless and often a very time >> consuming job and I think we need to appreciate what Kiran has been >> doing >> for the group over the years. >> >> I have been a member of other groups dealing with blind and > visually >> >> impaired people and topics related to blindness, let me tell you , > the >> >> moderator can be really rude and rough if one wastes the group's > time >> with off topic postings. >> >> If we feel that we want a platform where we could discuss anything > and >> everything, we can create one. There used to be a group on yahoo >> called >> Blind Life, we could start one like that for us in India. But > please >> let >> us not spoil the Access India platform with off topic postings and >> wild >> pot shots at the moderator who is just trying to maintain order for > our >> convenience. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> George >> George Abraham >> C.E.O. >> Score Foundation >> 125B, Shahpur Jat >> New Delhi 110049. >> India. >> >> Ph: 91-11-26494581, 91-11-26494582 >> Mobile: 9810934040 >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Website: www.eyeway.org >> >> Skype address: georgeabraham13 >> . >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East >> >> >> Hope, Mr. Kiran is also reading this message. >> - Orig
Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East
***? fill it up, please? Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Shadab" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > The list is going in a very good way, in my opinion. There are a lot of > informations, that we are getting every day. Our moderator is doing very > good work, which is inexpressible. Those who think that this list is not > going in correct direction, *** > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taraprakash > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:57 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > > Yes it is off topic again. But you don't have to fume on the moderator. > What, if he did not switch on his computer ever since this mail was > written. > > another possibility is that he sent a message to that particular > individual > rather than disturbing the entire list. > The tendency of policing the moderator is regretable and must be shunned > away. > - Original Message - > From: "Shyam M Sayanekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:03 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > > >> Dear members, how does this message fall under our topic? How the >> Moderator, >> who is otherwise so particular about the topic, is not taking any >> objection >> to this message? Why can we not adopt the similar standards for all the >> messages? If we do not want off-topic messages, it should be applicable >> to >> all the messages. >> Thanking you, Shyam M. Sayanekar >> - Original Message - >> From: "Shahbaz Ali Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:59 PM >> Subject: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East >> >> >>> Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East >>> Dear friends, >>> Right now a tragedy is unfolding in the Middle East. Hundreds of >>> civilians have died in the bombings in Lebanon, Israel and Palestine >>> and the death toll is rising every day. >>> UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has called for an immediate ceasefire >>> and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has joined Annan in calling for the >>> deployment of international troops to the Israel-Lebanon border. This >>> is the best proposal yet to stop the violence, but for it to succeed >>> other global leaders need to get behind it immediately. >>> I have just signed a petition urging regional and global leaders to >>> speak out and support Kofi Annan's proposal. If people around the >>> world can persuade their governments to unite in demanding a >>> ceasefire, all sides in this conflict will be pressured to stand >>> down. Can you sign the petition too? >>> http://www.ceasefirecampaign.org >>> >>> The petition will be sent to key regional and global leaders and >>> publicized in major newspapers in the Middle East, US and Europe. >>> With enough signatures we can help pressure our leaders to stop the >>> violence. >>> Thanks! >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:27 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >>> >>> >>> > It's very true. While the Colas like Pepsi and Coke are >>> > manufactured for just 90P, they are sold for Rs 10 or more, precisely >>> > because the company concerned wants to recover the advertising >>> > revenue, >>> > which may perhaps include the money they pay for cricketers and celebs >>> > for carrying their logo on their kit or on their costume. >>> > >>> > Subramani >>> > >>> > -Original Message- >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Rakesh >>> > Jain >>> > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:23 AM >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >>> > >>> > *** >>> > No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >>> > >>> > Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >>> > *** >>> > >>> > >>> > Dear Sir, don't you think that each TV channel with
Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East
how it is being filtered then? do you have any idea about it? whether it is depends upon the person who is sending the off topic messages? Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > And I do think Kiran is definitely liberal. He isn't saying outright no > to all the off-topics. He goes by the criteria that things that of > concern and of use to all of us, like messages on certain problems faced > by the disabled. However, if things posted in the group are absurd, you > can't blame Kiran. can you? > > Subramani > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George > Abraham > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:32 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > > *** > No virus was detected in the attachment no filename > > Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. > *** > > > I think it is rather unfair for us to keep taking digs at our > moderator. > Moderation is necessary and should be done with efficiency. Further, > all > of us are educated mature and responsible people, we need to be > focused on > the topics the group has been created for. > > Let me tell you, moderating is a thankless and often a very time > consuming job and I think we need to appreciate what Kiran has been > doing > for the group over the years. > > I have been a member of other groups dealing with blind and visually > > impaired people and topics related to blindness, let me tell you , the > > moderator can be really rude and rough if one wastes the group's time > with off topic postings. > > If we feel that we want a platform where we could discuss anything and > everything, we can create one. There used to be a group on yahoo > called > Blind Life, we could start one like that for us in India. But please > let > us not spoil the Access India platform with off topic postings and > wild > pot shots at the moderator who is just trying to maintain order for our > convenience. > > Warm regards, > > George > George Abraham > C.E.O. > Score Foundation > 125B, Shahpur Jat > New Delhi 110049. > India. > > Ph: 91-11-26494581, 91-11-26494582 > Mobile: 9810934040 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Website: www.eyeway.org > > Skype address: georgeabraham13 > . > - Original Message - > From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:37 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > > > Hope, Mr. Kiran is also reading this message. > - Original Message - > From: "Shahbaz Ali Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:59 PM > Subject: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > > >> Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East >> Dear friends, >> Right now a tragedy is unfolding in the Middle East. Hundreds of >> civilians have died in the bombings in Lebanon, Israel and Palestine >> and the death toll is rising every day. >> UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has called for an immediate ceasefire >> and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has joined Annan in calling for the >> deployment of international troops to the Israel-Lebanon border. This >> is the best proposal yet to stop the violence, but for it to succeed >> other global leaders need to get behind it immediately. >> I have just signed a petition urging regional and global leaders to >> speak out and support Kofi Annan's proposal. If people around the >> world can persuade their governments to unite in demanding a >> ceasefire, all sides in this conflict will be pressured to stand >> down. Can you sign the petition too? >> http://www.ceasefirecampaign.org >> >> The petition will be sent to key regional and global leaders and >> publicized in major newspapers in the Middle East, US and Europe. >> With enough signatures we can help pressure our leaders to stop the >> violence. >> Thanks! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >> >> >>> It's very true. While the Colas like Pepsi and Coke are >>> manufactured for just 90P, they are sold for Rs 10 or more, precisely >>> because the company concerned wants to recover the adve
Re: [AI] Reading with eyes that speak for you
hae, twise? - Original Message - From: "Taraprakash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Reading with eyes that speak for you >I have always wondered how do you focus on various lines on a book using > hand held scanners. > Any ideas anyone? > - Original Message - > From: "Pranav Lal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:45 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Reading with eyes that speak for you > > >> Hi all, >> > sense >> to recognise the world around them, Braille being the most established >> method. >> PL] this is just plain wrong though the rest of the article is reasonably >> descriptive about the device. I hope we get a commercial product in the >> near >> future. >> Pranav >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East
Hope, Mr. Kiran is also reading this message. - Original Message - From: "Shahbaz Ali Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > Dear friends, > Right now a tragedy is unfolding in the Middle East. Hundreds of > civilians have died in the bombings in Lebanon, Israel and Palestine > and the death toll is rising every day. > UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has called for an immediate ceasefire > and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has joined Annan in calling for the > deployment of international troops to the Israel-Lebanon border. This > is the best proposal yet to stop the violence, but for it to succeed > other global leaders need to get behind it immediately. > I have just signed a petition urging regional and global leaders to > speak out and support Kofi Annan's proposal. If people around the > world can persuade their governments to unite in demanding a > ceasefire, all sides in this conflict will be pressured to stand > down. Can you sign the petition too? > http://www.ceasefirecampaign.org > > The petition will be sent to key regional and global leaders and > publicized in major newspapers in the Middle East, US and Europe. > With enough signatures we can help pressure our leaders to stop the > violence. > Thanks! > - Original Message - > From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:27 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > >> It's very true. While the Colas like Pepsi and Coke are >> manufactured for just 90P, they are sold for Rs 10 or more, precisely >> because the company concerned wants to recover the advertising revenue, >> which may perhaps include the money they pay for cricketers and celebs >> for carrying their logo on their kit or on their costume. >> >> Subramani >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Rakesh >> Jain >> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:23 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >> >> *** >> No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >> >> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >> *** >> >> >> Dear Sir, don't you think that each TV channel with a number of costly >> advertisements is a direct burden on the pocket of common human being, >> whether one watches that channel or not! Now, if the common man or the >> government has to pay little for the benefit of the less fortunate ones, >> it >> does not really matter much to the government. In private sector, >> companies >> spend crores of rupees on publicity and so-called staff welfare! As the >> there is something which is universally accepted, that is, corporate >> social >> responsibilities ( C S R). and, if they will not come forward to make >> the >> society beautiful, who will to it! And, you would definitely agree to it >> >> that, we as disabled persons, have to spend alot, have to tax on our >> limited >> resources much more than the non-disabled persons. If the government can >> >> continued to extend concessions, reservations and other facilities to >> the SC >> and ST and OBC categories, the blind people really deserve government' >> proper estimation of the situation. thanks. >> is Dr. Rakesh Jain >> Mobile (Reliance): 09336787900 >> Mobile (BSNL): 09415787900 >> Residence: 05224001112 and 05222732345 >> Skype ID: dr.rjain >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Pranav Lal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >> >> >>> Kiran, >>> >>> My concern with consessions is that if the government pays for them >> then >>> this will translate into higher taxes. For the private sector, it >>> translates >>> into a loss so I am unsure whether consessions are viable in the first >>> place. >>> >>> Pranav >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaja, >> Kiran >>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:23 AM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >>> >>> I think my original point is diluted. I never said concessions should >>> not be provided. Instead, if you all read my original mail on this >>> topic, I mention that concessions cannot be done away with no matter >> how >>> good the facilities are. My original point is who needs to pay for >> these >>> concessions. Does the government have to pay for them or the service >>> providers and manufacturers of goods and services which are private >>> companies. Also, which of the methods is desirable for us consumers. >> If >>> the government decides and pays for the concessions, we need not >> request >>> or demand any private company to provide them and be at their mercy. >>> >>> Regard
Re: [AI] Promise Yourself
Hae What's this? - Original Message - From: "Omkar Nisal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Promise Yourself > Dear Group, > > Its been an amazing experience being with you all! > I have never had such respect, care, attention and love from you all > > Thank you so very much! each and every one of you! > > YES YOU TOO !! > > I am extremely sorry to disturb you with my motivational mumbo jumbo! > Hahahaha! I loved the term! fantastic! Thank you Mr Kaja. > > If you might have forgotten, let me be previlldged to remind you that we > live in democratic country and every one has right to express...and just > like our very own dear Mr Kiran Kaja had a right to speak whatever cute > things he wanted to speak, I too have to do the same and I shall exercise > it > with out any fear or regrets what so ever! > > So I am jolly well ignoring an extremely pleasing request of Mr Kaja of > not > replying to his splendid email! I mean how can I demean and disrespect > that > email with an reply!? > NO chance at all! > > I would like to really applaud to the language and way of putting forth > things by Mr Kaja and ofcourse so enthusiastic participation of the entire > group! I am sure your group will go places... and be the best in the > world! > Surely! > > I believe it would be quite embarrasing for all of the highly intelligent > and respected members to have an ignorant and simple person like me > talking > in the group. Right? > > Thus to save all the trouble which all the esteeemed members of this > community must surely might of been facing while I was making a futile > attempt to extend a helping hand in various ways.. I will no longer write > in > this group. (but I will definitely not be mute with out saying what I have > to say!) > > I crazily though that I could share the goodness of life, words, > technology > which are so very inseprable from each other. But thanks to Mr Kaja.. I am > brutally shaken to reality of the fact that how this community is indeed > blind in many apects of life.. not just to light or colors! > > ( I did see what an amazing response we people have given to technological > posts... which was the reason I joined this community! Mind blowing! its > really very encouraging!!! > each and every person in the community replied to the games post that Ms > Mamta has submitted! I would really like to extend my personal thanks to > each and every one of you! thank you thank you so very much for trying out > those games which I personally made staying up late in nights for hours > together! I thought my efforts were all drained down the lane.. but you > saved me from feeling this void! so kind of you! yes each one of you! > thank > you!!! a personal thank you!) > > Well I now understand how stupid I am! > I am sorry i wasted so much of YOUR ultra precious time!! > > Some people had wisely told me to keep away from AI. > But like a fool I wanted to give every one a chance. > > one my dear friend specially called me up after reading reply to my post > and told me to forget caring about 'Indian' people. ( I believe that is > the > only another different person in this group!) > > Any way, some how I have a feeling that with a heavy heart I have to > accept > this reality that > we Indians indeed do not care about each other .. especially about their > feelings! > > (Just take this email for example! do I care about you or your feelings!? > Not really! Thats why I said WE Indians and wrote one of the most > sarcastic > emails of my life! ) > > > Thanks a lot for letting a useless person like me be part of AI. > I mean so what I written a software that can convert english text directly > to braille which can be printed on simple dot matrix printer which can > work > as braille embosser! > who cares? > > so what if I have personally conducted mroe than 300+ experiments to > achieve > this, > so what if I have spend many a sleep less nights toiling to create an > algorithm to convert coloured digital images to sound. so what if mroe > than > 500 people are helping me with this project globally? so what if this > project has potential to eradicate blindness from earth? so what if a > special hardware is being build to achieve this feat in less than 10$ (500 > Rs) of manufacturing cost? > > My friend Anjali beautifully explained to me how most of us (i.e. > we Indians) usually think! > [ofcourse our group is NOT included in these 'most of us' ] > > Here it is: > > Are the americans or british people praising the invention? no we dont > trust ourselvess! > we were slaves to British people... we will continute to do so! thats > basically our motto of life! thats why we will not accept it nor we will > support it neither will be take interest in it untill our masters.. i.e. > british or american people praises it.. and puts a price tag that is far > out > of reach of most elite people too... and when that happens.. we can sit > an
Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?
would you let me know how to control the double messages in my inbox? all of my messages are I'm getting it twise. - Original Message - From: "Dinesh Kaushal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > Hello Mr. Rakesh, > > If you are using outlook express, you may uncheck the checkbox "Include > Message in Reply", which is located in the Send tab of option dialog. > > Regards > Dinesh > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?
make good use of your delete key in your keyboard? - Original Message - From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "K Ramkrishna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >i received three copies of this message. > > - Original Message - > From: "K Ramkrishna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > >> Dear Kiran, >> How do we justify that VIPs should be extended various tax concessions in >> the backdrop of the argument that government should fund our concessions >> from its tax collections? Doesn't it become double counting? On one hand, > we >> are asking for concessions in the charges for various services and also > the >> same in taxes, from where, the government has to fund such concessions? I > am >> only asking for the reaction of AI members, as this issue will come up >> sooner or later. >> regards >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >> >> >> > Kiran: >> > >> > This's what I exactly argue in my Ph.D thesis. Your point makes perfect >> > sense. >> > >> > Subramani >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kiran Kaja >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:34 PM >> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> > Subject: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >> > >> > *** >> > No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >> > >> > Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >> > *** >> > >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Having followed the thread on DGCA guidelines and the subsequent >> > discussion >> > of concessions for the blind or escorts, I have been thinking about it >> > for a >> > couple of days. >> > >> > I feel that in our country, the existence of public sector in >> > businesses >> > like transport and education has benifitted persons with blindness. If >> > all >> > the industry and utility services were run by private firms, I don't >> > imagine >> > they would come forward with so many concessions and exemptions for us. >> > Providing concessions is much simpler for public sector or government. >> > However, this raises a big question of who should eventually pay for >> > the >> > concessions? >> > >> > As citizens of the country, we are entitled to lead a life which >> > closely >> > resembles a sighted or normal person who doesn't have a disability. >> > This >> > obviously entails extra expenditure because of various reasons. To >> > offset >> > this additional cost, concessions and exemptions are provided. I >> > strongly >> > feel that since the government collects taxes from individuals as well >> > as >> > businesses in the private sector, it should be the one paying for these >> > concessions. If the Railways were privatised, the cost of providing >> > concession to blind persons should be born by the government and not by >> > the >> > private company which runs the railways. If a private company >> > voluntarily >> > comes forward with concessions, it is a very good gesture on their >> > part. >> > But >> > if concessions are imposed by law, the cost of these concessions should >> > be >> > reimbursed. >> > >> > For instance, when most of the other passengers of airlines were paying >> > full >> > fair for their tickets, blind persons were only paying half. If we put >> > the >> > social argument of concession aside for a while, the airline company >> > was >> > loozing money by carrying blind passengers. The airline company in >> > question >> > also pays the same tax irrespective of offering concessions. So, there >> > is no >> > insentive at all for the airline company by carrying blind passengers. >> > On >> > the contrary, the company gets less money. >> > >> > I think it is the responsibility of the government to provide or pay >> > for >> > the >> > concessions as they should look after the welfare of its citizens. >> > Private >> > companies or public sector companies for that matter should never be >> > forced >> > to bear the cost of concessions. >> > >> > What do you all think about this? I know this is never going to happen >> > in >> > India. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Kiran. >> > >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >> > n >> > >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > > http://accessin
Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air
O ok. I was not thinking that this is your favourite subject. Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air > Dear Kasha, > > I will certainly know when a topic is crossed the limits. We are still > having meaningful discussions on the issue. I am perfectly aware when a > discussion is going far beyond intended topic. If you do not want to > read the mails of this topic, there is a Delete key on your keyboard. > Make good use of it. > > Regards, > Kiran. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kasha > Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2006 8:09 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air > > Hae, I'm really fed up with this topic. it's more than enough, I guess. > - Original Message - > From: "Harish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air > > >> Hi Rakesh >> In which sector of I.A. is there no concession? >> Harish. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dr Rakesh Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by > Air >> >> >>> As I said, In Indian Airlines, the special class for blind and other >>> disabled persons is "M". It has very limited number of seats, may be, > one >>> or >>> two on each flight. In some flights they do not have this class at > all. >>> In >>> such,cases, they do not issue blind concession at all and you are > forced >>> to >>> buy a full fair or any other category of fairs if it is available. I > have >>> more than once faced this situation. >>> >>> Dr. Rakesh Jain >>> Mobile (Reliance): 09336787900 >>> Mobile (BSNL): 09415787900 >>> Residence: 05224001112 and 05222732345 >>> Skype ID: dr.rjain >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Harish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:29 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by > Air >>> >>> >>>> Hello Rakesh >>>> >>>> Indian airlines does not discriminate on this issue. If a seat is >>>> available, >>>> then they will give you discount confirmed seat. However, that is > not >>>> the >>>> case with Jet Air. They have a quota of concessional seats and keep > you >>>> wait >>>> listed. Again, it is a matter of economics. Some other airlines > don't >>>> offer >>>> any concession at all. >>>> >>>> In my opinion, DGCA guidelines cannot fall on the ticket fares and >>>> concessions or any package offered by the airlines. It is frevelous > on >>>> our >>>> part to make any recommendations on it. >>>> >>>> 1) What we should insist upon is that no airlines can deplane or > deny >>>> ticket >>>> to a blind person who are not escorted. >>>> >>>> 2) Permission to carry guide dogs without extra cost. >>>> 3) To provide wheel chair to the physically disabled without extra > cost. >>>> >>>> Personally I feel it is a non issue regarding the seating preference > >>>> made >>>> by >>>> airlines for operational reasons. >>>> >>>> Let me site an incident which apparently looks discriminatory. >>>> >>>> I was once flying with my wife and 2 infants on arm. After I > boarded, >>>> the >>>> air hostess came up to us and asked us to sit on either different > rows >>>> or >>>> on >>>> another wing. I thought it was ridiculous and obliged unwillingly, > after >>>> she >>>> kept insisting there was some rule to that effect. Much later, I > narated >>>> that incident to another hostess who was very friendly. She > explained >>>> the >>>> reason for that rule. In each section, eg. a lot of 3 seats, there > are 4 >>>> oxygen ducts. If there are more than 1 infant in arm, during an >>>> em
Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air
Hae, I'm really fed up with this topic. it's more than enough, I guess. - Original Message - From: "Harish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air > Hi Rakesh > In which sector of I.A. is there no concession? > Harish. > > - Original Message - > From: "Dr Rakesh Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:24 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air > > >> As I said, In Indian Airlines, the special class for blind and other >> disabled persons is "M". It has very limited number of seats, may be, one >> or >> two on each flight. In some flights they do not have this class at all. >> In >> such,cases, they do not issue blind concession at all and you are forced >> to >> buy a full fair or any other category of fairs if it is available. I have >> more than once faced this situation. >> >> Dr. Rakesh Jain >> Mobile (Reliance): 09336787900 >> Mobile (BSNL): 09415787900 >> Residence: 05224001112 and 05222732345 >> Skype ID: dr.rjain >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Harish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:29 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air >> >> >>> Hello Rakesh >>> >>> Indian airlines does not discriminate on this issue. If a seat is >>> available, >>> then they will give you discount confirmed seat. However, that is not >>> the >>> case with Jet Air. They have a quota of concessional seats and keep you >>> wait >>> listed. Again, it is a matter of economics. Some other airlines don't >>> offer >>> any concession at all. >>> >>> In my opinion, DGCA guidelines cannot fall on the ticket fares and >>> concessions or any package offered by the airlines. It is frevelous on >>> our >>> part to make any recommendations on it. >>> >>> 1) What we should insist upon is that no airlines can deplane or deny >>> ticket >>> to a blind person who are not escorted. >>> >>> 2) Permission to carry guide dogs without extra cost. >>> 3) To provide wheel chair to the physically disabled without extra cost. >>> >>> Personally I feel it is a non issue regarding the seating preference >>> made >>> by >>> airlines for operational reasons. >>> >>> Let me site an incident which apparently looks discriminatory. >>> >>> I was once flying with my wife and 2 infants on arm. After I boarded, >>> the >>> air hostess came up to us and asked us to sit on either different rows >>> or >>> on >>> another wing. I thought it was ridiculous and obliged unwillingly, after >>> she >>> kept insisting there was some rule to that effect. Much later, I narated >>> that incident to another hostess who was very friendly. She explained >>> the >>> reason for that rule. In each section, eg. a lot of 3 seats, there are 4 >>> oxygen ducts. If there are more than 1 infant in arm, during an >>> emergency >>> there will be a short fall of the oxygen duct. Merely rearranging the >>> seating the problem is solved. >>> >>> By and large when a rule is made, there is a definite purpose for it. We >>> may >>> not readily understand it. It is my guess that, Jet air may be training >>> the >>> crew to first go and attend passengers in the last row first during an >>> emergency. >>> >>> Indian airlines, prefers to seat disabled passengers in the first row. >>> >>> It is in our interest not to disturb this. >>> >>> Harish >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dr Rakesh Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:18 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air >>> >>> Dear Friends, I think the whole issue of concession is getting confused. The discounted or concessional tickets for blind passengers a class apart altogether with all airlines. That is, there are limited number of seats on each flight. What we require is that even if there is one seat available in the flight, we must get a confirmed seat. The airlines should not deny us the concessional seats if that particular class is full. Suppose, there are ten or twenty or maybe two blind passengers who want to fly on a flight, according to the present system, all the blind passengers with not get a confirmed seat if the low fair seats are full. Concession is not an issue, the issue is availability of concessional ticket to blind passengers to the last available seat on a given flight. Please give your suggestions. Dr. Rakesh Jain Mobile (Reliance): 09336787900 Mobile (BSNL): 09415787900 Residence: 05224001112 and 05222732345 Skype ID: dr.rjain - Original Message - From: "Harish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passe
Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air
Hae accepting twise? but, as per my opinion, even as per the escorts, if we have our own escorts that would be much better. be cause, as I feel, they may be knowing our requirements time to time and since they are well known, we can believe them much. even in priminister's flight itself unwanted things are happening though. - Original Message - From: "Pranay Gadodia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air > Hi accessindia friends, > Even i agree to the gang that we should ask or lobby for better > facilities, > better sense of duty from the airport and airline people, better > understanding of people with disability rather than asking concession > from > every service and utility provider. Having blindness or any physical > disability does not make a person incapable to pay for their own personal > or > business expenses which are general in nature. As Harish mentioned that > concession may be asked for when going for medical treatment of fatal or > serious porblems, which applies to any person with or without disability. > I think government or any body gives price concessions or subsidies on the > basis of financial weakness. i know there are many loopholes in our system > due to which the people most benefitted are not the one who are targetted > at. Conventionally the thinking in the public domain was that disabled > people cannot do anything and so they need financial support and rebates > every where. but if som of us has managed to show the reverse, we should > demand broader and deeper things like equal opportunity. > > In this case, we should stress on educating the airline and airport > authorities that people with disabilities are people first and disability > is > just their characteristic, so treat them as any other customer. Ofcourse > disabled people would need some help where they are incapacitated. Lets > pose > ourselves as another good section of a potential customers. > > In this list i heard many people had bad experiences with sahara airlines. > A > month ago i went to Kolkata from delhi both sides by sahara. Ofcourse i > was > carrying my white cane all the time without which it is difficult to move > without bumping here and there. After i took my seat on the delhi - > kolkata, > an air hostess came by herself and asked me if i have some vision problem > to > which i said yes. then she guided me that 14 seats behind us are the > lavoratories, the exact location of the emergency exit and showed by > making > me touch the button to call them for any assistance. Even on the return > journey there weren't any hassles. This may be not the usual attitude of > sahara people vis a vis visually impaired people. > > Some days ago when i went to a metro rail station in delhi, and it being a > new place for me, i was figuring out the way to the platform. A metro rail > employee voluntarily came to me hold my hand and took me towards the > platform. On enquiring he told that he helps anybody who comes there and > needs help. This was a very good gesture from metro rail, if he was > specially deputed for this purpose. > > I think we want such positive sensitisation for disabled people in all the > public utility providers and good professional service in general. Lets > not > confirm the wrong notion of people that disabled people are only takers > and > a burden on society. We should have a logical rationale behind anything we > demand. > > best regards, > > Pranay Gadodia, > Content Research Officer, > Score Foundation. > 125B, Shahpur Jat, > New Delhi - 110 049 > INDIA. > > Mobile: +91 98917 91089 > Phone: +91 - 11 - 2649 4582/81 > Website: www.eyeway.org > > - Original Message - > From: "Manish Agrawal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air > > > I have also been blind late in life, haven't yet had any mobility > training and still need to travel frequently within india and > internationally. > With the kinds of facilities and assistance offered by airlines on > almost all airlines and airports, I have traveled to, I have never felt > the need for an escort to help me get to where I need to go. As a matter > of fact, I have always been much more comfortable and have got things > (like immigration/boarding ) much faster and without hastle with the > airport staff (who are trained to do such things) than with someone > escorting me. > There are of course exceptional one-off bad experiences that I have > heard from people on this and other lists; but I will attribute that > more to human error than to the process/facilities offered by airlines. > I will strongly urge for improvement and standardization of these > facilities across airports and airlines rather than asking for discounts > for escorts. > > Regards, > Manish > > -Original Message- >
Re: [AI] info on mobile phones
Hello there, Warm Welcome to this group with this useful information. - Original Message - From: "subhash nandlal agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: [AI] info on mobile phones Hello Friends! This is my first mail to this group. A warm hello to everyone. I am presently working as Manager with Reserve Bank of India, New Delhi. Prior to this I have worked with NABARD, Mumbai as Asst. Manager for about 18 months. Here is some info on Mobile phones If you receive a phone call on your mobile from any person, saying that, he or she is a company engineer, or telling that they're checking your mobile line and you have to press # 90 or #09 or any other number. End this call immediately without pressing any numbers. There is a Fraud company using a device that once you press #90 or #09 they can access Your "SIM" card and make calls at your expense. All mobile users pay attention if you receive a phone call and your Mobile phone displays (XALAN) on the screen don't answer the call, END THE CALL IMMEDIATELY, if you answer the call, your phone will be Infected by a virus.This virus will erase all IMEI and IMSI information from both your phone and your SIM card, which will make your phone unable to connect with the telephone network. You will have to buy a new phone. This information has been confirmed by both Motorola and Nokia. There are over 3 Million mobile phones being infected by this virus in all around the world now. You can also check this news in the CNN web site Regards Subhash Agarwal To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] problem with gmail account
you have to go to the outlook express options and clear the checkbox for accepting the attachments. Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Archana Bhatia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 9:36 PM Subject: [AI] problem with gmail account > Hi Friends > I am facing a strange problem with my gmail account. I am unable to > receive any mail which has any attachment. The problem is that any > mail with any type of attachment doesn't reach to my gmail inbox > Need urgent help as I am fed up with this problem > Any help would be appreciated. I know gmail has a limitation of 10 mb > but I am not even getting mails with 1mb attachment > > Regards > Archana > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Very useful cellphone numbers
hae there, Even that too is not working though. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Mukesh Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Very useful cellphone numbers The code is *3370#. - Original Message ----- From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Very useful cellphone numbers hae but one thing, my Nokia 6600 is not working with that code 3370 hash for regaining the batary for 50% though. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "parimala shinde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Very useful cellphone numbers Hay Vishal! Hope you are doing fine. Thanks a million for the most useful details you've furnishe. With warm regards Parimala Vishal M Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are a few things that can be done in times of grave emergencies. Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver or an emergency tool for survival. Check out the things that you can do with it: - EMERGENCY I The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you find yourself out of coverage area of your mobile network and there is an emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network to establish the emergency number for you, and interestingly this number 112 can be dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out. II Subject: Have you locked your keys in the car? Does you car have remote keys? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their cell phone from your cell phone. Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone ontheir end. Your car will unlock. Saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other "remote" for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk). Editor's Note: It works fine! We tried it out and it unlocked our car over a cell phone!" III Subject: Hidden Battery power Imagine your cell battery is very low, you are expecting an important call and you don't have a charger. Nokia instrument comes with a reserve battery. To activate, press the keys 3370# Your cell will restart with this reserve and the instrument will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your cell next time. AND IV How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone? To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the following digits on your phone: # 0 6 # A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. when your phone ge ts stolen, you can phone your service provider and give them this code. They will then be able to block your handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your phone will be totally useless. You probably won't get your phone back, but at least you know that whoever stole it can't use/sell it either. If everybody does this, there would be no point in people stealing mobile phones. Regards, Vishal Jain Ph : 080-41140564 Website : http://vishal.hello.googlepages.com To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] concessional railway ticket
I think that this is the same message sent earlier? Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "pushkar raj pandey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:55 AM Subject: [AI] concessional railway ticket >I want to ask all the members that Is ticket is booked via internet or not >? If yes how is the process to book it? I have information > that senior citizens can book their tickets via internet , then why we > not? So we should try for this and do talks with railway regarding this > matter? > pushkar raj pandey > email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > phone 9868838673 > 9868235945 > 22579873 > 22118275 > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Very useful cellphone numbers
hae but one thing, my Nokia 6600 is not working with that code 3370 hash for regaining the batary for 50% though. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "parimala shinde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Very useful cellphone numbers Hay Vishal! Hope you are doing fine. Thanks a million for the most useful details you've furnishe. With warm regards Parimala Vishal M Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are a few things that can be done in times of grave emergencies. Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver or an emergency tool for survival. Check out the things that you can do with it: - EMERGENCY I The Emergency Number worldwide for Mobile is 112. If you find yourself out of coverage area of your mobile network and there is an emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network to establish the emergency number for you, and interestingly this number 112 can be dialed even if the keypad is locked. Try it out. II Subject: Have you locked your keys in the car? Does you car have remote keys? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their cell phone from your cell phone. Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone ontheir end. Your car will unlock. Saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other "remote" for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk). Editor's Note: It works fine! We tried it out and it unlocked our car over a cell phone!" III Subject: Hidden Battery power Imagine your cell battery is very low, you are expecting an important call and you don't have a charger. Nokia instrument comes with a reserve battery. To activate, press the keys 3370# Your cell will restart with this reserve and the instrument will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your cell next time. AND IV How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone? To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the following digits on your phone: # 0 6 # A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. when your phone ge ts stolen, you can phone your service provider and give them this code. They will then be able to block your handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your phone will be totally useless. You probably won't get your phone back, but at least you know that whoever stole it can't use/sell it either. If everybody does this, there would be no point in people stealing mobile phones. Regards, Vishal Jain Ph : 080-41140564 Website : http://vishal.hello.googlepages.com To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Looking for Outlook Express.
Otherwise, go to the command prompt and give the following command there. "sfc /scannow". If it asks for the xp cd, insert it then. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Ashok Kanaujiya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for Outlook Express. > Hello sir, do the following: > > insert the windows xp cd and click on the (install Windows optional > components button) and select outlook express from the appearing list and, > click next to install. > > regards, > Ashok Kanaujiya. > > - Original Message - > From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:27 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for Outlook Express. > > >> Hi Amiyo, >> >> Go to Control Panel > Add/remove programs > Windows components button. >> Somewhere here, you can install Outlook express if it is not already >> there on your system. It may ask you for windows xp CD or a local source >> for the same. >> >> Regards, >> Kiran. >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, 31 July 2006 6:29 AM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: [AI] Looking for Outlook Express. >> >> Hello everybody, >> >> I have recently upgraded my pc to windows xp with service pack 2. In >> fact, I have only my >> >> old hard disk and floppy disk. >> >> Anyway, my assembler has supplied IE internet explorer 6 service pack >> 3. It does not have >> >> outlook express. I tried to install internet explorer 6 from another >> installation disk, but >> >> naturally, windows did not allow the old version. I have tried ms >> outlook, but somehow the >> >> pop 3 service is not working. I have attempted all sorts of things as >> per instructions from >> >> the vsnl customers service, but tto no avail. The error message ID >> 0x8008210A continues to >> >> come. >> >> Is there any solution to it? Can I find outlook express vompatible with >> service pack 3 of >> >> internet explorer? >> >> With best regards, >> >> Amiyo. >> >> Cell: 9433464329 >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >> n >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Problem with ftp
Hi there, My suggestion is to exit your firewall if you have any and try to log in. be cause, earlier I was having this norton internet security installed in my pc and I faced the same prob. As soon as I quit that firewall, I was able to ... so, try by closing your firewall program. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:13 AM Subject: [AI] Problem with ftp > Hi Friends > I am facing a problem in getting on the For the people chat room. Let me > kn > ow if any of our accessIndia friends has faced any thing similar? > > On getting in the chat room the chat client starts but is not able to > log-in. all the items of the menu bar are not active. The client keeps on > trying to login and on the title bar a message keeps displaying " retrying > login" this is followed by a number which keeps on increasing. > > I have tried all tips and suggested solutions given in the help section > of > the for the people web site. > > Thanks > Dipendra > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] HTML Info needed
shift enter doesn't work? Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Vidya Lakshmi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: [AI] HTML Info needed Hi ! I am Vidya writing here. I need an urgent information on how to use clickable on mouse over items in IE. Please visit www.corpbank.com to understand this problem. If you find something useful, please let me know. If possible, please write to my personal Id that is - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Cheers Vidya Computer Trainer Enable India Ph:9880708084 - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] opinion
is this topic still going on? Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] opinion > This's entirely true, as we can't generalize and say all blind people > are genuine or all women are conservative. > > Subramani > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh > asudani > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:26 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] opinion > > *** > No virus was detected in the attachment no filename > > Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. > *** > > > Sorry for writing in the thread after moderator's warning. > Well, girls are of all types right from having good and mature common > sense > as described by Subramani to touch-me-not type, and I have come across > them > all. At times I have also observed that more than their undue > conservatism, > It is non-occurrence of idea of holding hand to lead which is so > apparent to > us which contributes to their seemingly queer behavior. Proper and > mature > communication is the key in such situations. Sometimes conservatism is > also > responsible, and at times it is not unwarranted when in freak instances > blind persons have used escort's free willingness to lead by hand for > their > ulterior purposes. I also know of a freak and bizarre instance in a > country > other than India where a girl continued putting up with the practice of > placing his hand on her breast by a blind persons while being lead, as > she > thought it to be normal way of leading the blind. However, these are > rarities and must be condemned to the utmost and corrected promptly. > > However, what I am at a loss to follow is the insistence placed upon > holding > the arm instead of hand in classical mobility training as stated by some > members here. In my opinion and experience, hand serves the purpose > better > and is less obtrusive. If it is the question of keeping the hands free > while > leading, I am afraid it may not be an absolute necessity always and > besides > as far as I can think, an arm may not serve to guide a blind person > properly. One may hold wrist or near portion of arm instead. By the way, > I > have not attended any mobility classes ever, so sorry for any deviations > in > thought from classical standard practices. > > > Regards > > Rajesh. > > - Original Message - > From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY > > >> Even I have come across girls who have no qualms in holding hands. > Even >> strangers for that matter do freely offer their hands to a blind > person. >> >> Subramani >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Taraprakash >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:35 AM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> >> *** >> No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >> >> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >> *** >> >> >> Not quite correct. There is not a single Indian culture. the girls > have >> held >> my hand while guiding quite often; and even boys /men have given voice >> commands to guide or held my cane to guide. >> As Adina said, and even i suggested earlier, it is better that we hold >> the >> elbow or hand of the escort/guide rather than they doing so. >> This is one of the essentials of mobility training anywhere in the >> world. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> >> >> > hi there, >> > >> > I think, you are not clear as per the culture of India. Here, they >> don't >> > prefer guiding a blind by holding their hands though, particularly >> women. >> > Rather, most of the men are doing it with out hesitation, even if > the >> help >> > required person is a female. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Kasha. >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Adina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: >> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:08 PM >> > Subje
Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY
world? don't u think that Indian culture is somewhat different from the rest of the other countries? Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Taraprakash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY > Not quite correct. There is not a single Indian culture. the girls have > held > my hand while guiding quite often; and even boys /men have given voice > commands to guide or held my cane to guide. > As Adina said, and even i suggested earlier, it is better that we hold the > elbow or hand of the escort/guide rather than they doing so. > This is one of the essentials of mobility training anywhere in the world. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY > > >> hi there, >> >> I think, you are not clear as per the culture of India. Here, they don't >> prefer guiding a blind by holding their hands though, particularly women. >> Rather, most of the men are doing it with out hesitation, even if the >> help >> required person is a female. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Kasha. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Adina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> >> >>> The only thing we seem to forget is that, as vlind, we are the one who >>> have >>> to hold, and, moreover, not hand, but the arm itself, according to any >>> classical mobility training and instructions. So, holding hand, at >>> least, >>> does not seem a real big issue, in India or anywhere else. >>> Adina >>> How about never? Is never good for you? >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >>> >>> >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> As I feel, the person who is in the same culture can only be able to >>>> give >>>> a >>>> healthy report on this issue. For an example, As per European >>>> Countries, >>>> there is no hesitation for holding anybody's hands though. Rather we >>>> have >>>> it >>>> here. so, as per my knowledge, a person who lives in india or who knows >>>> the >>>> entire culture of our country can only give a good suggestion on this >>>> matter. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Kasha. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:05 PM >>>> Subject: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >>>> >>>> >>>>> HI ADINA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTRODUCTION. FORUM LIKE THIS IS A >>>>> PLATFORM >>>>> FOR ANYBODY, I UNDERSTAND, WHO HAS A HEALTHY, UNIVERSAL CONSISTENT >>>>> VIEW >>>>> ADDING TO GENERATION & REGENERATION OF WHOLESOME IDEAS. NEITHER >>>>> JUDGMENT >>>>> & >>>>> PERCEPTION SHOULD BE BOUND BY GEOGRAPHICAL TENDENCIES TO MAKE THEM >>>>> UNIVERSAL. I AM GREATLY DELIGHTED YOU HAVE BEEN GOOD ENOUGH TO JOIN >>>>> THIS >>>>> FORUM. I FEEL IT'S NOT YOUR INTERFERENCE RATHER YOUR ENLARGEMENT OF >>>>> YOUR >>>>> SELF & OURS TOO. THOUGH YOU SAY YOUR CULTURE IS DIFFERENT, YOUR IDEA >>>>> ARE >>>>> UNIVERSAL & I LIKED THEM VERY MUCH. LET US GO FURTHER & ASSIMILATE >>>>> ALL >>>>> WORTH IT TO MAKE US CULTURED PEOPLE IN TRUE SENSE. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change
Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY
hae, I don't think only the camps and semenors can give you a healthy opinion about this issue. Because, they may have those camps or seminars only for few hours or so. so, in few hours discussion, it's not possible to ascertain the realistic problems which we are facing. Meanwhile, I haven't started this topic in this list. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Dheeraj Bhola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY > Hello, Don't you think this is the risponsibility of organizations which > are > working in the feeld of visually impaired persons. They may organize some > camps and seminars. > - Original Message - > From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY > > >> hi there, >> >> I think, you are not clear as per the culture of India. Here, they don't >> prefer guiding a blind by holding their hands though, particularly women. >> Rather, most of the men are doing it with out hesitation, even if the >> help >> required person is a female. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Kasha. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Adina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> >> >>> The only thing we seem to forget is that, as vlind, we are the one who >>> have >>> to hold, and, moreover, not hand, but the arm itself, according to any >>> classical mobility training and instructions. So, holding hand, at >>> least, >>> does not seem a real big issue, in India or anywhere else. >>> Adina >>> How about never? Is never good for you? >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >>> >>> >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> As I feel, the person who is in the same culture can only be able to >>>> give >>>> a >>>> healthy report on this issue. For an example, As per European >>>> Countries, >>>> there is no hesitation for holding anybody's hands though. Rather we >>>> have >>>> it >>>> here. so, as per my knowledge, a person who lives in india or who knows >>>> the >>>> entire culture of our country can only give a good suggestion on this >>>> matter. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Kasha. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:05 PM >>>> Subject: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >>>> >>>> >>>>> HI ADINA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTRODUCTION. FORUM LIKE THIS IS A >>>>> PLATFORM >>>>> FOR ANYBODY, I UNDERSTAND, WHO HAS A HEALTHY, UNIVERSAL CONSISTENT >>>>> VIEW >>>>> ADDING TO GENERATION & REGENERATION OF WHOLESOME IDEAS. NEITHER >>>>> JUDGMENT >>>>> & >>>>> PERCEPTION SHOULD BE BOUND BY GEOGRAPHICAL TENDENCIES TO MAKE THEM >>>>> UNIVERSAL. I AM GREATLY DELIGHTED YOU HAVE BEEN GOOD ENOUGH TO JOIN >>>>> THIS >>>>> FORUM. I FEEL IT'S NOT YOUR INTERFERENCE RATHER YOUR ENLARGEMENT OF >>>>> YOUR >>>>> SELF & OURS TOO. THOUGH YOU SAY YOUR CULTURE IS DIFFERENT, YOUR IDEA >>>>> ARE >>>>> UNIVERSAL & I LIKED THEM VERY MUCH. LET US GO FURTHER & ASSIMILATE >>>>> ALL >>>>> WORTH IT TO MAKE US CULTURED PEOPLE IN TRUE SENSE. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscript
Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY
hi there, I think, you are not clear as per the culture of India. Here, they don't prefer guiding a blind by holding their hands though, particularly women. Rather, most of the men are doing it with out hesitation, even if the help required person is a female. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Adina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY > The only thing we seem to forget is that, as vlind, we are the one who > have > to hold, and, moreover, not hand, but the arm itself, according to any > classical mobility training and instructions. So, holding hand, at least, > does not seem a real big issue, in India or anywhere else. > Adina > How about never? Is never good for you? > > - Original Message - > From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY > > >> Hi there, >> >> As I feel, the person who is in the same culture can only be able to give >> a >> healthy report on this issue. For an example, As per European Countries, >> there is no hesitation for holding anybody's hands though. Rather we have >> it >> here. so, as per my knowledge, a person who lives in india or who knows >> the >> entire culture of our country can only give a good suggestion on this >> matter. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Kasha. >> - Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:05 PM >> Subject: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> >> >>> HI ADINA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTRODUCTION. FORUM LIKE THIS IS A >>> PLATFORM >>> FOR ANYBODY, I UNDERSTAND, WHO HAS A HEALTHY, UNIVERSAL CONSISTENT VIEW >>> ADDING TO GENERATION & REGENERATION OF WHOLESOME IDEAS. NEITHER >>> JUDGMENT >>> & >>> PERCEPTION SHOULD BE BOUND BY GEOGRAPHICAL TENDENCIES TO MAKE THEM >>> UNIVERSAL. I AM GREATLY DELIGHTED YOU HAVE BEEN GOOD ENOUGH TO JOIN >>> THIS >>> FORUM. I FEEL IT'S NOT YOUR INTERFERENCE RATHER YOUR ENLARGEMENT OF >>> YOUR >>> SELF & OURS TOO. THOUGH YOU SAY YOUR CULTURE IS DIFFERENT, YOUR IDEA >>> ARE >>> UNIVERSAL & I LIKED THEM VERY MUCH. LET US GO FURTHER & ASSIMILATE ALL >>> WORTH IT TO MAKE US CULTURED PEOPLE IN TRUE SENSE. >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY
Hi there, As I feel, the person who is in the same culture can only be able to give a healthy report on this issue. For an example, As per European Countries, there is no hesitation for holding anybody's hands though. Rather we have it here. so, as per my knowledge, a person who lives in india or who knows the entire culture of our country can only give a good suggestion on this matter. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY > HI ADINA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTRODUCTION. FORUM LIKE THIS IS A PLATFORM > FOR ANYBODY, I UNDERSTAND, WHO HAS A HEALTHY, UNIVERSAL CONSISTENT VIEW > ADDING TO GENERATION & REGENERATION OF WHOLESOME IDEAS. NEITHER JUDGMENT > & > PERCEPTION SHOULD BE BOUND BY GEOGRAPHICAL TENDENCIES TO MAKE THEM > UNIVERSAL. I AM GREATLY DELIGHTED YOU HAVE BEEN GOOD ENOUGH TO JOIN THIS > FORUM. I FEEL IT'S NOT YOUR INTERFERENCE RATHER YOUR ENLARGEMENT OF YOUR > SELF & OURS TOO. THOUGH YOU SAY YOUR CULTURE IS DIFFERENT, YOUR IDEA ARE > UNIVERSAL & I LIKED THEM VERY MUCH. LET US GO FURTHER & ASSIMILATE ALL > WORTH IT TO MAKE US CULTURED PEOPLE IN TRUE SENSE. > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] idea for the documentary
Hi, As per this issue, sometimes, some people use to hold my other end of my cane for guiding me though. Actually, I don't prefer that way of guidance. Because, as I feel, uncomfortable with that type of guidance. since I'm using my foulding cane, while they pull that little stronger, the elastic may get cut off or, will give us some confusing mind. In some cases, some of them will give me their pen to hold the other end of it. I, sometimes, felt that was ok too. since the pen has no joins and since it is a smaller thing, hope, it may not misguide us. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Dinesh Kaushal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary > yes, I can add that some people tend to hold the walking cane in stead of > our hand , and do not change even with insistence. > > I can recall another insidence, that one person who used to sit at > crossing > and when I approached it he used to come and help. but his help was of > forceful nature. > > once I asserted that he hold my hand rather than the stick, he might have > felt bad and to show his anger he just shooked me and left me in the > middle > of the road which could be dangerous. > > Another time I was waiting on a bus stop, and a young guy pulled up with > his > scooter and offered his help, as I do not appriciate unsolicited help, I > declined the offer and suggested that I can manage on my own and have no > problem in travelling in bus. He got enraged and started saying things > like > you are shying like a girl, I will not kidnap you. > > These are some of the insidences which I could recall, but there might be > lots of instances which others may have faced. > > Regards > Dinesh > > - Original Message - > From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:41 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary > > >> Fortunately, no one held me by my collar, but many have literally 'man >> handled' me by pushing me from behind like a car, twisting my arm to the >> extant that I had to scream in discomfort and lifting and downing my >> elbow to indicate ups and downs. >> >> Subramani >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jatin shah >> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:24 AM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: [AI] idea for the documentary >> >> *** >> No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >> >> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >> *** >> >> >> hi friends this is jatin shah >> I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents which >> >> have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this >> is to >> create awareness among other people about visually challenged. Therefore >> I'm >> going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to film >> the >> documentary. >> This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this >> movie >> in two parts: >> The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For >> example >> when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman >> dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm. >> The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc. >> So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any of >> you >> as it would be a great help to me. >> I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged. >> I look forward to your response. >> Jatin Shah >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >> n >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 27 August, 2006 - Two moons will be visible
hi, May I know in what way this is related with accessibility? Kindly post accessibility materials here. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Jagdeep Virdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: [AI] 27 August, 2006 - Two moons will be visible > 27 August, 2006 - Two moons will be visible. > > Planet Mars will be the brightest in the night sky starting August. It > will > look as large > > as the full moon to the naked eye. This will ultimate on Aug. 27 when Mars > comes > > within 34.65M miles of Earth. > > Be sure to watch the sky on Aug. 27 12:30 am . It will look like The > > Earth has 2 Moons. Don't Miss it. > > The next time Mars may come like this close only in 2287. > > NOTE: Share this with your friends as NO ONE ALIVE TODAY will ever see it > again. > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Good News
Well, that's indeed a very good achievement. Better ask her too come and join in this list? Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "sameer latey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: [AI] Good News > > Dear List Members, > > One of my blind friends, Nikita Vaid has just > completed her BMS from Mumbai University. She has > secured in excess of 80% marks and has topped her > college. She is the first blind student to join and > complete this course from Mumbai University. > Nikita was born blind but has never let that handicap > stop her from acheiving her dreams. When she applied > for admission to the BMS course, Mumbai University was > unwilling to admit her. It took a personal meeting > with the Dean of the university for her admission to > be accepted. Even during the course, no additional > facilities were provided other than a writer. Inspite > of these difficulties, she managed to score quite high > on a consistent basis. > > Nikita is a example of " Where there is a will, there > is a way." > > Regards > Sameer > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Some more innovative file-sharing tools
Hi Vikas, I think, you have forgotten to mention this Serve U, the file sharing program. It's a program which will make our pc as a server and we can give the name and the password to the required persons who they want to get files or programs or songs even from us. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Access India" Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:28 AM Subject: [AI] Some more innovative file-sharing tools > Some more innovative file-sharing tools > > There is no limit to the size of the file or folder to be shared > > A FEW file-sharing tools/services are discussed in this edition of > NetSpeak. > > Sharing documents, data, songs and other digital content with > friends/clients is one of the prime requirements of a netizen. The various > means adopted for > this are decided by one's technical knowledge and skills. > > Many still use the e-mail attachment feature for sending files, though it > has file-size limitations. > > To get over this shortcoming in the e-mail technology a variety of > solutions are being presented (recall the services like Dropload- > http://www. dropload.com/, > Yousendit - > http://www.yousendit.com/ > discussed in the past). Pando ( > http://www.pando.com/) > is another attempt at countering the e-mail attachment size restriction. > Here, you need to send the file/folder with the Pando client software > (available > for free download). While the file gets uploaded to the Pando server, the > Pando client sends the e-mail to the recipient with details regarding the > file > being sent. To download the file, the recipient also needs to install the > Pando software in his machine. > > File storage alternatives > > Besides such services, as mentioned in the past ( > http://www.hindu.com/biz/2005/11/28/stories/2005112800171600. > htm), a netizen has several file storage/sharing alternatives (like > e-snips) at his disposal. In addition to the ones mentioned above, let us > take a look > at yet another innovative file-sharing tool, BoxCloud. > > Most of the solutions mentioned above require uploading of files to be > shared to the service provider's server. Whenever one needs to share a > file, one > has to e-mail or upload it to a service and later remove the same once it > becomes obsolete. But, if one can directly share the files/folders stored > in > the local storage, one does not need to bother about uploading/deleting it > from the server. > > File sharing solutions like Foldershare (mentioned earlier: > http://www.hindu.com/biz/200 > 4/08/09/stories/20040809005 61400.htm) help you do this. The free > file-sharing tool BoxCloud ( > http://www.boxcloud. > com/) is another product of this kind with some innovative features. > > To share files or folders with BoxCloud, you just have to install the > client software. Once installed, the software allows you to share files > and folders > of your choice with other BoxCloud members - the interface is almost > similar to that of an IM client. When you create an account, the service > provides > you web interface with a URL of the form: http://your-name.boxcloud.com. > > Once the files/folders in your local storage are shared with a client, the > service sends an e-mail mentioning your account URL to her. Now, using > this web > address, your client can view/access/download the files shared with her > directly from your machine from anywhere on the Net with her browser - > provided > your machine is on-line. The service's advantage lies in the facility to > access the shared files over a browser - the recipient need not install > the client > software. Also, there is no limit to the size of the file or folder to be > shared (the whole hard disk can be shared). > > Zoho Show > > A stiff competition is brewing in the Web based office suite application > realm. Many companies, including Google, are vying with each other to gain > a rightful > place in this fast growing lucrative segment. Zoho (http://zoho.com/), an > on-line service with a wide array of products, is one such company eyeing > the > on-line office suite throne. Recently Zoho added the on-line presentation > tool, Zoho Show ( > http://www.zohoshow.com/, > for its office applications pack, which already has a good range of > products such as Zoho Sheet and Zoho Writer. > > Though Zoho Show lacks several features currently available with > PowerPoint kind of products, it has some distinct advantages. The facility > to import PowerPoint > presentations is a notable feature. Yet another feature worth a mention is > the facility to host remote live present
Re: [AI] Download link for Microsoft Private Folder
ah, this works fine and I finished downloading it. thanks. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Download link for Microsoft Private Folder > Sorry folks, I was probably half a sleep when I sent this mail. Here is > the correct link: > > www.accessindia.org.in/MSPF10ENU.msi > > Regards, > Kiran. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abhijit > Joshi > Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:04 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Download link for Microsoft Private Folder > > I am sorry Kiran this is not a link. I am unable to download it > Abhijit > Hyderabad > - Original Message - > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:39 PM > Subject: [AI] Download link for Microsoft Private Folder > > >> Hello, >> >> Please download the setup package from this location: >> >> MSPF10ENU.msi >> >> Regards, >> Kiran. >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i > n > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i > n > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] information
Hi there, I think, it's opening in a new window. better hit alt tab and see whether it is taking you to other site? Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Ashwani Jassal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:50 AM Subject: [AI] information > Hi kasha > Thanks for the information given i have added encarta in my msn. Now it is > answering but after every message it says i can't show you the results > unless you open encarta application so now what to do to get rid of this > problem? Though i have written "invite" as per its request but the problem > is remains same. > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] information needed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] just add it to your messenger. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Ashwani Jassal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:13 PM Subject: [AI] information needed > Hi Friends > I want to know how to add Encarta in msn. As I did earlier but it shows > Encarta always offline. Kindly tell me the exact procedure. > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Information Needed.
Hi, With window's xp? I don't understand. even I too got window xp installed with my pc? Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "ashish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Information Needed. > yes it is not accessible but Bluetooth in windows xp is totally > accessible, > I am using it without any problem, take care, regards, ashish, > > windows messenger/msn > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype > ashishrohtagi > mobile +919896258072 > > - Original Message - > From: "Dr. Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Information Needed. > > > I feel bluesoleil is not accessible I have not come across accessible > software for bluetooth. > Rohit > > - Original Message - > From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 9:30 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Information Needed. > > >> hi Abhijit, >> >> Thank you very much for your kind reply. but, I have installed all the >> required softwares in my pc. as I mentioned earlier, my pc is identifying >> my >> phone and I even can pair my pc from my mobile. i have IVT bluesoleil >> installed and also the pc suite the latest one. so, further? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Kasha. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 7:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Information Needed. >> >> >>> Dear Kasha, after reading your mail I can understand some in connecting. >>> If >>> I am not wrong you have installed all necessary software in to the PC. >>> in >>> phone also you have to allow Blue tooth. generally this option comes in >>> connectivity menu of the phone. another thing is there should not be a >>> big >>> obstrical between phone and PC. I hope this will help you. >>> >>> Abhijit >>> Hyderabad >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "accessindia" >>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:41 PM >>> Subject: [AI] Information Needed. >>> >>> >>>> Hello Friends, >>>> >>>> After spending nearly at about 72 hours with my nokia 6600 and with the >>>> bluetooth connection, I'm writing this mail to you all for clarifying >>>> how >>>> to connect my phone with my pc via bluetooth. >>>> >>>> Actually, after spending that much time, I got failled in connecting it >>>> with my pc though. my PC is identifying the phone but, saying that the >>>> phone cannot be authenthecated. I really fed up with this one. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions or any advice is appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Kasha. >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] good mobile phone screen reader
Hello there, I'm a Mobilespeak User and I feel comfortable with that one. As I feel the talks is somewhat ok but, the options are not there like how in mobilespeak. for an example, in this present update in mobilespeak, we have 3 options such as, beginner, normal and advanced, also we can change the synthesiser on the fly, provided, we have some other licensed synthesiser installed in our mobile. Another great feature which I liked is, if we set the cell info display on in our mobile, it will say the tower name by just moving the arrow key either of the sides. Rather, if I'm not mistaken, as per talks, it will say the name of the tower while we are coming out of the menus. so, for which, we must get into the menu first and should come out of it for the purpose of knowing the name of the tower. On the other hand, in the mobilespeak bundle, we are getting a color recogniser software and it is really being useful for the totally blind persons. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "sameer latey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Suman Rath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [AI] good mobile phone screen reader > > I am using TALKS on a Nokia 6600 and find it very > good. You can purchase TALKS from Saksham. > > I tried both Mobile Speak and Talks before settling on > Talks. I chose Talks because I was used to listening > to JAWS and Talks uses the same speech engine and so > is easier to get used to. > > Regards > Sameer > --- Suman Rath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello friends, >> I just purchased a nokia 6600 and am confused on >> which mobile phone screen reader to buy. >> If those of you who have some experience in this >> could help me, it would be very nice. >> >> I would like to know if mobile speak or talks is >> better and where to buy any one of these software. >> >> Regards, >> Suman. >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the >> subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make >> any other changes, please visit the list home page >> at >> >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Information Needed.
hi Abhijit, Thank you very much for your kind reply. but, I have installed all the required softwares in my pc. as I mentioned earlier, my pc is identifying my phone and I even can pair my pc from my mobile. i have IVT bluesoleil installed and also the pc suite the latest one. so, further? Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Information Needed. > Dear Kasha, after reading your mail I can understand some in connecting. > If > I am not wrong you have installed all necessary software in to the PC. in > phone also you have to allow Blue tooth. generally this option comes in > connectivity menu of the phone. another thing is there should not be a big > obstrical between phone and PC. I hope this will help you. > > Abhijit > Hyderabad > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "accessindia" > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:41 PM > Subject: [AI] Information Needed. > > >> Hello Friends, >> >> After spending nearly at about 72 hours with my nokia 6600 and with the >> bluetooth connection, I'm writing this mail to you all for clarifying how >> to connect my phone with my pc via bluetooth. >> >> Actually, after spending that much time, I got failled in connecting it >> with my pc though. my PC is identifying the phone but, saying that the >> phone cannot be authenthecated. I really fed up with this one. >> >> Any suggestions or any advice is appreciated. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Kasha. >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Information Needed.
Hello Friends, After spending nearly at about 72 hours with my nokia 6600 and with the bluetooth connection, I'm writing this mail to you all for clarifying how to connect my phone with my pc via bluetooth. Actually, after spending that much time, I got failled in connecting it with my pc though. my PC is identifying the phone but, saying that the phone cannot be authenthecated. I really fed up with this one. Any suggestions or any advice is appreciated. Cheers, Kasha. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Guide Dog
hae even I too got a dog bite once. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog > No strict rule on this. I hav suffered a dog bite. I have stepped on the > dog > thrie and all three times it tried to bite. Once he was quite successful. > Other two times he bit on my shoe thus did not have any effect on me. > > I guess, Delhi tops in road rage thus the effect must be there on dogs > too! > > Cheers > Dipendra > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harish > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:30 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog > > Hi Geetha > I too agree, usually dogs don't attack blind folks. > > I too once stepped over a dog which squatted on a stair case. The fellow > kept barking and went away. > > Harish > - Original Message - > From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:43 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog > > >> True as it may be that Bangalore has more than its fair share of stray >> dogs, >> it must be said in defence of dogs that they practically look at blind >> people with compassion. Although several people travel independently in >> Bangalore, I have not come across a single instance of a blind person >> being >> attacked/bitten by a dog because the person trampled on it. >> I remember having literally walked over a dog several years ago. Once the >> dog started barking, I was so afraid of being attacked that I started >> running. But instead of running after me, the dog meerly continued >> barking. >> I do not know whether it detected my blindness or was simply afraid of >> my >> white cane. >> >> In the longrun though, it would be good if guide dogs could be replaced >> with >> a guide robot. >> Geetha >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >> >> >>> Well well, you should come to Bangalore to know all about dogs. This >>> city probably has the highest number of stray dogs anywhere in the >>> world. There are whole generations of them living on the streets. I >>> understand the concern of animal rights activists but this is too much. >>> It is not safe enough to walk on the streets without sighted assistance. >>> >>> Kiran. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal >>> Sent: Friday, 30 June 2006 6:53 AM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>> >>> Kiran, >>> >> in Bombay, I should think twice before I travel there . >>> PL] I am in Mumbai and I am already living in an ocean of dogs. it is >>> hell! >>> >>> Pranav >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaja, Kiran >>> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:00 PM >>> To: Pamnani; accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>> >>> Do you have to pay for these dogs? With so many dogs scheduled to arrive >>> in Bombay, I should think twice before I travel there . >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kiran. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pamnani >>> Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2006 12:53 PM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>> >>> Yes it is the same person. >>> i am surprised that you are promised a dog in April 2007. I have paid in >>> >>> May- June of 2005. I havent been informed when I will get the dog. >>> There are others who have paid before me and they havent got a dog as >>> yet. >>> so please email the new tel. nos. and addresss. Iwill have to follow it >>> up. >>> Are there others on this list who have registered for a guide dog? >>> >>> >>> Kanchan Pamnani >>> Advocate & Solicitor >>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>
Re: [AI] test mail
don't go on testing it, please. do it once. Cheers, Kasha. - Original Message - From: "Praful N. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "accessindia" Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:08 AM Subject: [AI] test mail > this is a test mail. > Yours Sincerely, > Praful Vyas, > Hon. Secretary, > Andhjan Kalyan Trust, > Behind Jain Derasar, Station Plot, > Dhoraji-360410. > Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India. > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: 91-2824-223502, > Fax: 91-2824-223502, > Mobile: +919426201837. > Please visit the Give India site to see our Profile and support us- > http://www.giveindia.org/give/ngoprofile/getOrganisationProfile.do?ngoid=116 > And also visit at > www.carencureindia.org/aktrust.asp > All Donation Enjoy 50% Exemption Under Section 80 G 5 of the Income Tax > Act 1961 > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
