[AI] Hello everybody

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Just getting acquinted.


  

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Re: [AI] netbank access

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hi All,
 
I have been using net banking with same config. as sameer mentioned with no 
difficulty, you can order check book ,check any status regarding fixed deposit 
or cheque, set message alerts or transfer money.
 
Thankyou,
 
Pankaj Kwatra
kwatrapan...@yahoo.com
skype'; pankyb;
 
"

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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 12:30 AM


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   2. hi all accessindia members regarding braill softwares and
      machines (basavaraju )
   3. Re: netbank access (Sameer)
   4. Re: Fwd: Dr. Abdul Kalam's Letter strictly to Every Indian
      (Rohiet A. Patil)
   5. Which is better? ICICI or HDFC banking. (govind reddy)
   6. Fw: for the blind people, one more site to chat (Rohiet A. Patil)
   7. Re: Which is better? ICICI or HDFC banking. (Amit Bhatt)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:34:55 +0530
From: deepali kuamri 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] thanks for help
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

hi friends!
i changed my password successfully.
thanks for your help
---
deepali



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Message: 2
Date: 22 Sep 2010 14:44:28 -
From: "basavaraju " 
To: 
Subject: [AI] hi all accessindia members regarding braill softwares
    and machines
Message-ID: <20100922144428.46314.qm...@f5mail-237-204.rediffmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

namasthe iam d. basavaraju.

i joined as a computer faculty in a  blind school.

they need is they want teach in braille softwares.

and also operation of braille machines.

so I request to you all is what are the braille softwares are available? 

how i get the information of the braill machines and braille softwares?.

can you please tell me where i get the information of the braille softwares and 
machines.

and how i  have to use of those.

you are get these information please inform me.

mobile:9959546451,9703038239

mail: basavaraj...@rediffmail.com

skype: basavaraju1234

yours sincerely d. basavaraju

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:44:08 +0530
From: "Sameer" 
To: 
Subject: Re: [AI] netbank access
Message-ID: <000a01cb5a68$cf608920$1d0b1...@g31>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
    reply-type=original


Dear Friend,

I have found no accessibility issues in using HDFC Net banking with JAWS 10. 
I have been using it for more than three years with various versions of 
JAWS.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
- Original Message - 
From: "Dr. TVGNS Sudhakar" 
To: "Acces India" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:21 AM
Subject: [AI] netbank access


> dear listers,
>
> i would like to know is there any accessability issues with ICICI and HDFC 
> net banking wile we oparate with jaws10.
>
> thanks,
> sudhakar.
> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with 
> disability bill at:
> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:49:20 +0530
From: "Rohiet A. Patil" 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Dr. Abdul Kalam's Letter strictly to Every
    Indian
Message-ID: <96e61329eff543b09aa02af22f552...@rohit>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252;
    reply-type=original

Again off topic? By a old member? What is this going on?
- Original Message - 
From: "labhendra mhatre" 
To: "accessindia" 
Cc: ; ; "jagtap.ravikant" 

Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:15 AM
Subject: [AI] Fwd: Dr. Abdul Kalam's Letter strictly to Every Indian


-- Forwarded message --
From: PRAVIN PATIL 
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 15:55:03 +0530

[AI] two things to tell

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,
 
I have been reading this mailing list from some time now and analyzed that 
crack or thankyou messages keep on repeating.Few suggestion :
 
1.  Caution email from moderator from time to time regarding cracks or patches 
in mailing list as people do not read guidelines or are new to list
2. Re iterate avoidance of discussing cracks on the list into guidelines in 
bold letters on top.
 
3. Regarding thankyou or congratulation emails ,I will give one example.We have 
a link in our company intranet which takes you to a page where greetings can be 
send to a particular person without clogging email server or everyones inbox , 
now this can be greeting or congratulation or thankyou messages etc.
 
Thankyou,
 
Pankaj Kwatra  .

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   2. Thank you all (Dr Jalaja)
   3. Re: Amazing! Please Pay Attention (Chetan Sharma)
   4. Re: MBA thru correspondance (prakash chand)
   5. a problem after downgradeing jaws (austin pinto)
   6. Re: Amazing! Please Pay Attention (Vikas Kapoor)
   7. hy friends (ajay manucha)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:53:55 +0530
From: "namdeo2000" 
To: 
Subject: Re: [AI] CMessage-ID: <000401cb617b$8fc22c50$0701a...@jadhavpc>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
    reply-type=original

Yes, I also uphold this view that, list members should avoid sending 
congratulatory messages or greetings on somebody's birthday or achieving a 
feat and so on. In fact, when we leave house in the morning, the life is so 
full of risks that there is no guarantee that we would be able to make it to 
home safely in the evening. But, when we do, it actually is our new birth. 
That means, suppose we are 500 members on this list, each of us merits a 
congratulation for surviving the day. So we would be sending 500 such 
messages to each other everyday.

Secondly, if somebody attains some exceptional feat, list members can 
express their opinion, offer comments and make suggestions if there are any, 
but list should not overflow with simply greetings and congrats.Moderator of 
the list can wish the respective member on behalf of entire group. Of 
course, those who are so willing, can direct their messages to the personal 
email I d of that person.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandeep Gautam" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 7:20 AM
Subject: [AI] two things to tell


> Dear list,
> some people are again and again discussing about patches and cracks in 
> list despite of several mails from moderator.
>
> what are they thinking?
>
> is not there any software which can automatically remove such mails from 
> list which contains words like crack or patch without coming to list?
>  Warning from moderator should be treated as final warning.
>
> another thing, what i think, personal congratulation message to other 
> person should not come in the list.
> yes, if someone wants to share his/her own success to the list, it should 
> be welcomed. if someone wants to congrats him/her, it should be done on 
> his/her personal id.
>
> Sandeep G
> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with 
> disability bill at:
> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:55:43 +0530
From: "Dr Jalaja" 
To: "accessindia" 
Subject: [AI] Thank you all
Message-ID: <00ea01cb617c$ec4895d0$0201a...@qwe>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello friends,
                  Thank you all for the excellent support and the inspiration 
given for me. Today I took charge of a community health centre as 
superintendent . Once 

Re: [AI] how to know the status of plan change in bsnl broadband?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello,

There are two ways to check , either you can check on vsnl website if
registered or call customer service .I use airtel where everything can
be checked online.

Thank you,

Pankaj Kwatra 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prasanth
P.V.
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:53 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] how to know the status of plan change in bsnl broadband?


hello friends? I recently changed my bsnl broadband internet connection
plan from 500 combo to unlimited499. I want to know whether the new plan
is activated or not. How can I know about it?

-- 
> True friendship consists not innmultitude of friends, but in their 
> worth> and value>

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Re: [AI] Circular to allow VI's to have the ATM card

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

I have been reading below issue with lot of banks, my question is can we
do something so all banks related queries can be dealt or sorted by one
NGO or organization. One stop shop with solution-Just a thought.

Thank you,

Pankaj Kwatra   

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ashik
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:44 PM
To: Access India
Cc: VoiceVision; sayeveryth...@yahoogroups.co.in
Subject: [AI] Circular to allow VI's to have the ATM card


Dear Friends,

I wish to acquire an ATM card from the SBI branch in my town. The
manager does not approve for it in view of my blindness. I know the
Reserve Bank of India has issued a circular allowing us to have such a
facility. Could anybody pass on the circular to me to my personal ID? My
E-mail id is:

ashikhir...@gmail.com

Thanking you in anticipation.
- - -
Ashik Hirani
Landline phone: 02849-242233
Skype: ashikali.hirani
I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace.
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Re: [AI] There is noone who is listening to classical music? or

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello List Members,

Classical music is priceless, people with no knowledge or shallow
knowledge should not comment, lot of today's music is inspired by
classical  music.

 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dr. Yogesh
Sharma
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:49 PM
To: neelima.a...@gmail.com
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] There is noone who is listening to classical music? or


Dear Neelima and other friends, I am deeply touched by Neelima's thought
provoking mail about the immense value and everlasting significance of
Indian Classical Music.[sorry for reading this mail today only]. I even
read Mr. Pradeep Banekar's informative tributary mails about Late Pundit
Putraj Gavai, who, inspite of being visually challenged and having a
flood of obstacles in his tedious path, not only went to gain perfection
and world wide acclaim for his immortal Music, but even paved the way
for hundreds of visually challenged curious aspirants to learn and
perfect this Divine Art under his own guidance and also to follow the
path shown by their Grate Guru! [I am sure all of you have read my late
reply to Mr. Pradeep Banekar's Mails also].
 As regards the so called "DJ designed music" of today,it is
definitely a pass time and stands nowhere when compared to our own
Heavenly Music, which, right from the Vedic Times till today, has been
successful in blessing its lovers with Param Aananda; and not only that,
even helping them to connect their souls with the all mighty [The
Nirakaar Par Brahmma]. It is a real pity that we Indians learn to value
and respect our own culture and heritage only after the Westerners start
to recognize and follow it first! Otherwise  we always take pleasure in
making crude imitations of Western culture and posing ourselves to be
ultra modern.
   Maybe most of you would be amused to know that A. R.
Rehmaan's Oscar Winning composition, "Jai Ho" [from the movie Slum Dog
Millionaire], which has actually been copied from the much revered
Western composer, Mozart's Symphony 40, is quite similar to our very own
Raag Bhairvi, a melody which is being  sung and played in Indian
Classical Music for centuries.
 So, Neelima, on behalf of all my friends in Access India, I
assure you that although there are a lot of Indian Music lovers on the
list, but  I fail to understand why they always prefer to remain silent
about it. Once again I express my sincerest thanks to my friend Pradeep
Banakar for enlightening the list about the immortal contributions of
Pundit Puttraj Gavai not only for the Music World in general, but also
for the V I community in particular. Warm regards.
  Yogesh Sharma.
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Re: [AI] FW: (VIB) BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

The doctor as far as concerned should only give professional /medical
advice , leaving capability of disabled person to hiring body. The
screening stage should eliminate people if required but not bragging
them to last round and then saying no.

Another point regarding accessible tools which are difficult to enforce
in private sector as reluctance will come into existence for hiring such
people or if law is in place ,the story will be different.

Thank you,

Pankaj Kwatra

 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:08 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] FW: (VIB) BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law




From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:08 AM
To: 'vib-in...@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: (VIB) BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law

Another issue to be incorporated is restriction of doctors to certify a
person fit or otherwise for a given job. A doctor should only certify
existence and extent of an impairment or otherwise, and disability or
fitness for a given job or activity should better be left to a well
competent interdisciplinary board...


What do you all say?
The present committee has not at all taken up this issue..


From: vib-in...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vib-in...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of bv
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:36 PM
To: vib-in...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: (VIB) BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law

HI Rajesh, You have discussed the law in detail. I would like to add
that Rehabilitation of persons acquired disability should be mandatory
which is not dealt with in the old Act. Accessibility of job should also
be guaranteed. In many institutions do not care about providing
accessible tools to the visually challenged. I would add in details
shortly. BV.

From: Asudani, Rajesh<mailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 3:09 PM
To:
accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Cc: vib-in...@googlegroups.com<mailto:vib-in...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: (VIB) BGFI suggests to Drafting committee for new law

Press Release

BGFI Suggests to New Disability Law Committee

Blind Graduates Forum of India, a non-government organization working
for all round development of the visually challenged, in its efforts for
providing a voice to Visually challenged and other disabled in law and
policy formation and implementation, has come up with a broad range of
suggestions for the government committee drafting the new law to replace
the existing persons with Disabilities act, 1995. The meeting to illicit
suggestions and comments of persons with Disabilities on the reports
prepared by said committee was convened on Sunday, 10/10/10, at the PGTD
Law, Nagpur. Around thirty participants cutting across various
disabilities came forth with their observations. Dr. Rajat Agrawal, a
well-known eye specialist working in California US and hailing from the
city, interacted with the participants in the beginning, giving details
of his evolving path-breaking research about Bionic eye which has the
potential of making persons with retinal problems  see again. Answering
participants' queries, He also gave his valuable inputs towards
formulating a useful definition of blindness and low vision. Nagpur may
soon have a local chapter of Retina India, network founded by him to
inculcate awareness and advocacy for retinal patients nationwide. Dr.
Shirish Deshpande, HoD, PGTD Law RTMNU, and Mr. Rajesh Asudani, Vice
president BGFI, acquainted all participants with ongoing work of the
drafting committee making new disability law and its updated reports.
Each participant then spoke about her/his comments on it and the issues
they felt the new law must address. The discussion was properly
channelized by Dr. Vinod Asudani, Hon. National secretary of the forum.
Some of the important suggestions which were finalized to be recommended
to the Govt. committee include:

Set up Disability Disputes Redressal fora for deciding disability rights
cases, at district, state and national level;

Make provision for enforcement decree for judgments of  such fora;

Divest CCPD and SCDs of disputes deciding powers;

Make the recognition of educational institutions contingent on their
following disability specific measures;

Make all private players receiving any sort of aid from Govt. follow
disability reservation

Ensure that at least the private players who provide public utility
services earlier provided by Govt. follow disability law provisions
including reservation of jobs;

Make presence of at least 30% disabled persons mandatory on executive
committees of disability NGOs;

Define disability to include medical parameters and index of activities
of daily life, rather than in purely medical terms;

Clearly lay down modalitie

Re: [AI] regarding formatting memory card

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Sharma G,

When I purchased my N 73 ,the memory card was formatted through phone
itself, probably your phones memory card is not compatible with other
sources or it cannot be formatted. Solution =Please try reading
instructions given with phone or show it to some local nokia dealer.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sharma G
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:39 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] regarding formatting memory card


Hi good morning list members!
I have a pen drive which shows a same message 'disk is right protected'
whenever I want to open the pen drive then the message appeared  'format
the disk'. and when I try to format the drive then a message appeared
'disk is right protected '.

So please guide me how can I format the pen drive!
I hope this time you will answer.

With Regards,
Sharma G!
There is enough light for partially sighted!


On 10/12/10, Sandeep Gautam  wrote:
> Dear AI list,
> When I am attempting to format my 512 mb memory card of nokia n72 
> through computer, the message: the disk is right protected.
>  although I can save data into memory card through usb data cable but
data
> saving through memory card reader is not possible due to message "disk
is
> right protected".
> I have tried doing error checking and disk defragment under system tab
of
> memory card property but unable to do as again it is showing disk
right
> protected.
> pls tell, how I can remove this right protection from memory card if
any.
> how can I solve this problem.
>
> Sandeep G
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Re: [AI] How we can detect virous!

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Sharma G,

Anti-virus is required for detecting virus,unusal behavior of operating
system or application can be a symptom of virus infection.

Virus cannot be put at one place ,it will replicate and infect files
very fast depending on type of virus.

Disk defrag or formatting of hard disk can be done to improve computer
efficiency. Bad sectors appears when computer is switched off abruptly
or because of data corruption.

Solution- Please run anti virus to detect and clean virus infection,AVG
antivirus freeware can be used, you should periodically clear temporary
internet files and cookies from your system.

Pankaj 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sharma G
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:28 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] How we can detect virous!


hi geeks!

I want to know can we manually detect the viruses in a computer system,
without run any anti-virus.

I want to see all the viruses of my system at one place.
Is it possible.

I have tried chkdsk  in command promt which shows bad sectors.

I am confident that you will solve my query.

With regards,
Sharma G!

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Re: [AI] 'Signatures' Special Formalities for passport?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Amar,

Practice makes person perfect, I admire your spirit and would like to
see you signing all documents. We all make mistakes ,even after signing
so many times ,you still loose control over your signature-it only
happens when your mind is not focused but you still cover the distance
after few hiccups.

Pankaj

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:35 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] 'Signatures' Special Formalities for passport?


Hello,
No urgency at all. I tried learning signing, using that scale which
small 
kids use, in which you have letters as blocks and there that much space
you need to move your pen and the letter is made. But again it requires
hell 
lot of practice and I didn't find this idea of learning shape that
useful. Then I also thought of an option to make one scale of your name
itself so 
just move the pen in those blocks, and you can sign that. But then it
might 
be not valid because what if someone steals that scale? Although legally
I 
think hand writing experts report can be obtained to make it valid in
case 
of any dispute. But don't know whether I am in right direction or not.
Can you give me any other idea for learning on how to sign? Somebody
also told that on Eyeway radio show there was a mention of some 
card board, but he didn't know in detail as to what it was and from
where to 
get it.
I am totally blind by birth, no idea of shapes of letters, have both
plastic 
and aluminum signature guides.
I am not going on 15th now, won't be signing that illiteracy declaration
for 
sure, first of all I will give my 100% effort for learning signature.
Now 
there will be no otherwise kind of situation to this. If I want
passport, I 
will learn signature. That's it. By no chance I want to sign any such 
illiteracy declaration.
I remember, when I went for opening my bank account, my manager very 
politely said "Don't mind, you are pursuing Law, so, why don't you learn

signing the form? I know you are educated, but still it is the thinking,

that if you put thumb impression, it means you are illiterate". Though I

just explained the problem that due to no vision many a times letters
differ 
bit.
This provision of considering persons with thumb impression as
illiterate 
was enshrined in our constitution at the time of making, which is not
wrong 
because it gives protections to rural masses, but makes no difference 
between the literate and illiterate person.
I must appreciate CDSL's approach towards this, while opening demat
account, 
they give instructions to the depository participants to put a remark
for we 
VI as "Person with visual impairment and thumb impression". This
directly or 
indirectly shows that they do make distinction between an illiterate and

literate person.
Anyways no doubts, the experience of all accessindians will make my task

easier. So, a kind request from all of you to please share your views on

learning signature on or off the list.
And thanks, for this good and positive approach.
Looking forward for ideas which may help me in my way.
Regards,
Amar Jain.
-Original Message- 
From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:37 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Special Formalities for passport?

If you don't need passport urgently, then a suggestion: Why not learn
some kind of signature? It helps tremendasly when you apply for bank
accounts by using passport as a photo ID. Also, there are banks
insisting for signature if you happen to go abroad and try opening an
NRI account.

Vetri.

On 13/10/2010, Rohiet A. Patil  wrote:
> Hi!
> I made my passport before 1 year approx.
> At that time I did not feeled any such application. Just I wrote LHTI 
> i.e. left hand thumb impration under the every every thumb.
>  - Original Message -
> From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Special Formalities for passport?
>
>
>> hi, unfortunately in our country if we are affixing thumb we have to 
>> get it attested by a notary there will be one declaration form and 
>> all the formalities required will be in the instructions of the 
>> physical form. the authorities insisted me for a gazetted attestation

>> on the prescribed proforma and further insisted me to sign an 
>> illiterate declaration along with it. notary authorization is 
>> compulsion.
>>
>> hope it helps.
>>
>> On 10/12/10, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>> Dear All
>>> I have filled up passport application online, and will be going to 
>>> passport office on 15th of Oct. I have seen the website carefully, 
>>> and have even spoken with the office. The website as such makes no 
>>> reference to disability
>>> or any special formality to be followed except disability
certificate,
>>> while
>>> applying for passport, and the office helpdesk people were no

Re: [AI] Problem with gktoday.in website-please help me

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Just to add up, I once faced problem with yahoo.com ,have send email
mentioning the problem to their customer service  and within minutes
,the problem was solved.

Pankaj


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vijay Kumar
P.V.S.
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem with gktoday.in website-please help me


Respected list members:

The inaccessibility problem with gktoday.in has been solved. I have
raced this problem in the website, they responded immediately and solved
the problem. For your information I'm pasting my mail to them and their
response here.

"Hi members:

I'm Vijay, I'm visually challenged person. I'm a regular visitor of this
wonderful website. With the screen reader I'm able to read the quizzes,
but recently the lay out of the website has been changed, now the
website is inaccessible for visually challenged persons, as we are not
able to read the answer for the quiz questions, which are not compatible
with the screen readers. I hope this annoying problem may be solved.

Happy reading
VIJAY
Admin,  13 October, 2010
@Vijay,

Please check this is acceble to you now or not."

I have checked the website now it is working very well for me. I'm very
happy that, slowly people are considering our problems and responding to
them.

With warm regards
VIJAY



On 10/8/10, VIJAY KUMAR P.V.S.  wrote:
> Respected members:
>
>
>
> As the subject line suggests, today I opened the website
>
>
>
> www.gktoday.in
>
>
>
> And opened the link Quiz 434. My problem is that, I couldn't find the 
> answers for these questions after clicking the link "Show answer". I 
> would like to seek the solution from regular visitors of this website.
>
>
>
> Waiting for your valuable solution
>
>
>
> With warm regards
>
> VIJAY
>


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Re: [AI] Urgent help required with Excel 2003 errors...

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Friend,

Please check for any excel file association for example taking data from
other file-input or output for other files or some formulas are
preventing your task, you need to know complete association of file to
make any changes.

Pankaj

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bijal Patel
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 12:06 PM
To: Bhavesh Dhanak; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help required with Excel 2003 errors...


hi,
there is chance to currept other files also.
why don't you repair ms office once?
- Original Message - 
From: "Bhavesh Dhanak" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:51 PM
Subject: [AI] Urgent help required with Excel 2003 errors...


>Hi friends.
> Hope all are in their pink and green of health...
> I am getting some errors in Excel since yesterday night.
> When ever I open 2 files together to copy one file's data to another, 
> I
> get following error:
>
> Microsoft Excel
> Excel cannot complete this task with available resources.  Choose less
> data or close other applications.
> OK
>
> After selecting Okay button, I get following dialog box:
>
> Microsoft Excel
> Excel found unreadable content in 'DAILY EXPENSES.xls'. Do you want to
> recover the contents of this workbook? If you trust the source of this
> workbook, click Yes.
> Yes No
>
> After I select yes button, a third file gets opened " daily expenses
> (repaired) ", and I get the following dialog box:
>
> Repairs to 'DAILY EXPENSES.xls'
> Errors were detected in 'DAILY EXPENSES.xls,' but Microsoft Office 
> Excel was able to open the file by making the repairs listed below. 
> Save the file to make these repairs permanent. Damage to the file was 
> so extensive that repairs were not possible. Excel attempted to
> recover your formulas and values, but some data may have been lost or 
> corrupted.
> Click to view log file listing repairs: 
> C:\DOCUME~1\dhanak\LOCALS~1\Temp\repair02600_01.txt
> Close
>
> The error dialog box opens after I open the second file, and the error
> dialog specifies problem with the file which I open second.
> Means, if I open file " A " first, then file " B ", then it will open 
> third file as " B(repaired), and similarly, if I open file " B "
first, 
> then file " A ", then the third file will open as " A(repaired) ".
> O O, I know, my mail is so confusing, as this problem is for
me(smiles).
> I request all our experts there, to help me solving this problem, as I

> have to update my daily business accounts
> Awaiting your help.
> Thanking you all in anticipation.
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Re: [AI] problem in my SBI account

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

I have done what Amit just mentioned, my priorities are different rather
then making bankers aware of RBI rules, question - when banks will stop
giving different versions of same rule for VI.Another point which
mentioned before, are some NGOs or organization is looking into this
matter/queries from different banks.

Pankaj

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Gupta
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 3:42 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] problem in my SBI account


Dear Friends,
  One possible solution to this problem is to have a joint account with
a 
family member (such as 'Spouse').

Of course, such a  decision is a  personal choice.

Regards.
Amit Gupta


- Original Message - 
From: "aliluhar" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] problem in my SBI account


>hello vanshi, i totally agree with you in this matter. some of the 
> list
> members wrote that each of us should learn to sign, i personally think
it 
> is not possible for everyone to learn signature. and it is not so
eazy. i 
> tried my best to do so but i couldn't.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Vamshi. G" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] problem in my SBI account
>
>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> I think with the biometric system not yet in vogue, thumb impression 
>> can't be verified by the banker.
>>
>> I am not a legal expert, but I felt the master circular kept silent 
>> with reference to operating accounts with LTI.  It would have been 
>> better if it explicitly stated that visually challenged people can 
>> avail all banking facilities using LTI/signature at their choice.
>>
>> Even if visually challenged people learn to sign, I very much doubt 
>> whether all the signatures would be alike to enable bankers to honor 
>> third party cheques.
>>
>>
>> --
>> G. Vamshi
>> PH Res : +91 877-2243861
>> Mobile: +91 9949349497
>> E-mail ID:
>> gvamsh...@gmail.com
>> Skype: gvamshi81
>>
>> www.retinaindia.org
>> From darkness unto light
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/18/10, nilesh sonar  wrote:
>>> hello
>>> the internal  cerculer  can not over  ruled the rbi cerculers
>>> the internal  cerculer should be in the   scope of the RBI's
cerculers
>>> you just  argive  on this point
>>> if he does  not agree  then  take  this matter  to the nodal officer

>>> of the bank
>>>
>>> if  you have any qury then  you can contact me off the list on my 
>>> email id regard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/18/10 , amarnath de  wrote:
 Hello friends,

 Happy Dassahara to all of you.

 I am writing you because, on 12/10/2010 I have opened a savings 
 account with State Bank of India, Integrated Office Complex branch.

 After a brief fight
 the bank has agreed to provide me Net banking and only self
cheques. 
 But
 bank official is referring their internal circular which states
that,
 visually impaired persons are not allowed to issue third party
cheques
 with
 left thumb impression.

 I argued that, when I am giving my LTI in front of you and filling 
 the whole cheque then what is the problem? They only argued that, 
 their internal circular did not permit them to do so. I have talked

 with Mr. Kishore Singh,
 who is L.H.O. is also denying for such facility despite having the
RBI
 circular of 2008. He says that, this rule has come on 2009.

 If anyone of the list who, can help me is willing to do so he can 
 give his/her mobile number, I will talk to him/her off the list. 
 Please, help me.
 I need the facility very much.

 Though I am thankful to Mr. Rajat Agrwal, who has help me a lot in 
 this regard. But anyone who is an employee of state bank can help 
 me.

 With worm regards.

 Yours sincerely,
 Amarnath De.
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Re: [AI] error on installing app on n79

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hi Friend

The error says it all, phone OS is not accepting software, it happens
when software/application is not licensed or registered with OS as they
share system files , the operating system automatically blocks non
compatible stuff.

Pankaj
 .

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin
pinto
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:31 AM
To: accessindia; Talks Mailing List; The Accessible Phones Discussion
List; Voice Vision.; access-uk
Subject: [AI] error on installing app on n79


hi all i was installing kaspersky mobile on my phone i got an error
unable to install protected app provided by untrusted supplyer why did
this error come what to do

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Re: [AI] error on installing app on n79

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello,

Software coding done on particular platform makes a difference, java
language is used commonly because of its independent functionality
irrespective of any platform OS is working, well in your case mobile OS
will not allow your application as antivirus goes into system files and
registry to make changes which certain OS does not allow. The problem
with antivirus is very common with any system.

Pankaj
  .  

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin
pinto
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:38 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] error on installing app on n79


but Pankaj and all how can kaspersky mobile security 9 which is a
reputed antivirus give such errors

On 10/27/10, Pankaj Kwatra  wrote:
> Hi Friend
>
> The error says it all, phone OS is not accepting software, it happens 
> when software/application is not licensed or registered with OS as 
> they share system files , the operating system automatically blocks 
> non compatible stuff.
>
> Pankaj
>  .
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin 
> pinto
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:31 AM
> To: accessindia; Talks Mailing List; The Accessible Phones Discussion 
> List; Voice Vision.; access-uk
> Subject: [AI] error on installing app on n79
>
>
> hi all i was installing kaspersky mobile on my phone i got an error 
> unable to install protected app provided by untrusted supplyer why did

> this error come what to do
>
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Re: [AI] question about adding ram sloghts

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello

I am not sure if additional ram slots are available as it should be
there, if only one slot is available then 1 GB ram will be wasted to put
new RAM of 2 GB, also confirm the configuration allows this change for
extended or additional memory.

Pankaj 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth
Kanuri
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] question about adding ram sloghts


you need to replace with a 2 GB ram.

On 10/27/10, Amit Sanghvi  wrote:
> Austin ,
>   Directly no as only 1 RAM slot is available that is occupied

> by 1GB so you will have to replace it with 2 GB RAM. Hope this helps
> AMit
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin 
> pinto
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 09:48
> To: accessindia; Voice Vision.; blindwindo...@yahoogroups.com;
access-uk
> Subject: [AI] question about adding ram sloghts
>
> hi all i have a dell inspiron mini 10(1012) intel 1.67ghz attam 
> processer 1gb ram 250gb hd i have a question is it possible to add an 
> extra ram sloght in the laptop even if it means takeing sighted help
>
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Re: [AI] how to delete all mail from inbox using gmail site?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Which mail website you are talking about and after below responses, is
the problem solved.

Just to add up few points :

1. Question or query should be specific with details like configuration
or model or version or website.

2.Please try at your end as some problem can be solved with practice as
doing things without vision is not easy.

3. Please acknowledge the response or reply if problem is solved
otherwise many answers will be given which can lead to confusion and
never ending conversation to topic without any solution.

Pankaj

  

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravi Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] how to delete all mail from inbox using gmail site?


 Hi, you can do the following to delete all your e-mails in Gmail:  1.
Login to your gmail account using Internet explorer (I don't know  about
other browsers; firefox gives a lot of annoying alerts that are neither
Pleasant nor necessary to listen). 2. Switch to the standard view if you
are using the Basic HTML view. 3. Go to the place where you find your
mails (you can press the t key once I think to get there; it goes to the
first table). 4. Arrow upward until you hear something like "Select:
All, None, Read, Unread, Starred, Unstarred" (note: JAWS wont inform you
of it being a link; pressing the enter key on "all" should select the
mails in the current page, and when you go down, you will find a link
that says something like Select all x conversations in Inbox, on which
if you click, all the mails in your inbox will get selected, below which
you should find something like  "All x conversations in Inbox are
selected"; where x is the number of e-mails in your inbox). 5. Go to the
delete button pressing b and press enter. Sorry if this is too long-this
is an old set of instructions I pulled up from the mail archives I'd
given someone else earlier. Regards, Ravi Paul

On 10/27/10, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> Tick the checkboxes of the emails you want to delete. Press (B) and 
> see if there is a delete button otherwise go in the combo box and 
> navigate to delete and press Tab to hit the Go button. Shadab
>
> There is enough light for one who wants to see.
> Easy tips of improving English at http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/
> My contributions to the press
>
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html
#link
> Many posts on one page
>
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%
3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=47
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mahesh Kumar" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] how to delete all mail from inbox using gmail site?
>
>
> If you open your inbox in your gmail site, There will be a line of
tabs is
> available. At the very beginning of the line, there will be a
checkbox.
> click on that check box. All the 50 mails present in the first page
will be
> selected and a message will be displayed above the first mail in the
page
> as: All the 50 mails in this page are selected. and a link will appear
as "
> select all mails in the inbox" select that option. Now, all the mails
in
> your inbox are selected. Now press on the delete button. You are done.
I
> think it needs some sighted help.
> Hope this helps.
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <
> vadhimoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think that's not what he is asking. He wants to clean-up his
in-box.
>> You can't do it on the gmail itself, but If you configure it with
>> outlook express as an imap account, it show-up all of your messages
in
>> your inbox and then you can select all for deletion.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>> On 26/10/2010, amarnath de  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Open gmail inbox and click refresh. It will solve your problem.
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> > Amarnath De.
>> >
>> > --
>> > From: "ghanshyam asudani" 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:56 PM
>> > To: 
>> > Subject: [AI] how to delete all mail from inbox using gmail site?
>> >
>> >> hi all,
>> >> could anyone guide me as to how can i delete all mail from my
gmail
>> >> inbox using gmail website.
>> >> hope somebody will soon enlighten.
>> >> regards.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Dr. Ghanshyam H. Asudani,
>> >> Asstt. Prof. of English,
>> >> Anand Niketan College of Agriculture,
>> >> Warora 442914,
>> >> Dist. Chandrapur,
>> >> Maharashtra.
>> >> Phone:- 07176-281485
>> >> Cell:- 7709468077
>> >> hi all,
>> >> please guide me as to how could i delete all mail at once from my
>> >> gmail inbox using gmail website? hope somebody will enlighten
soon.
>> >> regards
>> >>
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Re: [AI] need help to restore internet settings in windows 7

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hi Austin,

Remove the program installed to optimize internet and then restart your
system.

Cheers,

Pankaj

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin
pinto
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:06 AM
To: sunilsangtani; accessindia; Voice Vision.; jaws...@freelists.org;
blindwindo...@yahoogroups.com; bhavesh; access-uk
Subject: [AI] need help to restore internet settings in windows 7


hi all i used auslogics internet optimiser to optimise my connection but
insterd of optimising it it reduced the speed mainly the download speed
is there any way of restoring the settings to original? i installed
auslogics on 9thoct i went to system restore and its not showing any
restor points for any event beafore 22nd oct what do i do

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Re: [AI] Strange problem with my Pc's at home.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hi Govind,

Hardware or software.

Hardware can be power supply or some part in motherboard is
malfunctioning or internal cable can be cause.

Software can be application specific which can be cured by reinstalling
application, if the problem is with all application ,then the finger
goes to hard disk and operating system and RAM, first you can check by
putting another ram .

Follow the problem as doctor does with patients - curing on  symptoms.

Cheers,

Pankaj 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Janardhana
Naidu
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:54 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Strange problem with my Pc's at home.


Hello Govind,
There may be problem in your DVD writer.  Defragmentation of your hard
disk 
is some times help you to over come out of all these problems. With warm
regards, Janardhana Naidu.
- Original Message - 
From: "govind reddy" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:17 AM
Subject: [AI] Strange problem with my Pc's at home.


> Dear List members,
> For the past few days, I've been encountering with a strange problem 
> in
> pc's.
> When I work on my pc's on any application, it automatically gets
> restarted, sometimes, it'll not start untill we restart it a couple of
> times.
> It'll not happen always, but it's highly unpredictable, Thefore, while
> we write a CD or DVD, it gets lost and the actual process gets
> distuurbed.
> These days, I'm also getting some error reports like "Send the error
> reports, don't send and details buttons".
> Note: There's no virus in my pc's as I'm using the paid version of
> Quick Heal Anty virus. My mother board's battery is also fine as
> there'll not be any change in the system's time during the restarting
> process.
> I'm using Jaws11 with Windos XP SP2.
> Inspite of all these, what could be the reason behind this irritating 
> problem?
> Can any one do some research as I'm not an expert in this subject?
> Could there be any issue with the mother board or the pc's bios?
> How to find out and rectify the problem?
> In Hyderabad, every one is a hardware engineer with out the actual
> problem identification and trouble shooting skills.
> What they know is just to format a Pc's which I can also do with some
> one's help.
> I'll be glad for all your valuable inputs on this problem.
>
> --
> For everything you gain in life, you lose something else.
> "Ralph Waldo Emerson".
> With Warm Regards,
> Govind, voice trainer @ GE Money Services
> Mobile: 9030915271.
> Email:
> sgred...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] (no subject)

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Lets take things in good spirit , if you do not point out my mistakes
then I will never learn, but the method can be different . 

I can talk English, walk English  . Lets move on productivity and go up
in learning curve.

Cheers,

Pankaj

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Waseem
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:02 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)


I believe if the language has the ability to convey
ideas/thoughts/points to 
others should be okay besides some miner mistakes in the terms of 
grammar/language

I don't have command on English language so I have no right to ask
questions 
or express my feelings in access India mailing list.

You mean it?



Warm Regards
MohammadWaseemKhan
Land: 01165154282
Mob: 9213749272
Emails
bestmu...@gmail.com,
mohammadwase...@gmail.com,
mohammadwaseemk...@yahoo.com.
MSN: mr.waseemk...@hotmail.com
Skype: sweetboy250

- Original Message - 
From: "namdeo2000" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)


> The point here is that, the mistakes which you can avoided should be
> avoided.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Waseem" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)
>
>
>> Pointing out or correcting other's mistakes publically are not going 
>> to
>> serve any purpose.
>> Specially in the terms of language/grammar.
>>
>> Warm Regards
>> MohammadWaseemKhan
>> Land: 01165154282
>> Mob: 9213749272
>> Emails
>> bestmu...@gmail.com,
>> mohammadwase...@gmail.com,
>> mohammadwaseemk...@yahoo.com.
>> MSN: mr.waseemk...@hotmail.com
>> Skype: sweetboy250
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "namdeo2000" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)
>>
>>
>>> It all depends Mr. Akhilesh, how you look at the things. It shows 
>>> that,
>>> your happiness and sadness depend or are controlled by other's
criticism 
>>> or admiration. That means you let people dictate your emotions,
whereas, 
>>> you should be the master of your own feelings. Now, you have said
that, 
>>> I have forgotten my etiquettes and manners; maybe you are right ,
or, 
>>> that is the way you look at the things. I hold no grudge against you

>>> because, that is your way of expressing the things. This again is a
free 
>>> advice that, always consider those people as your friend who point
out 
>>> your mistakes, because they want to see you improve and progress.
Who is 
>>> perfect in the world you tell me. You said that, I should look at
myself 
>>> 1st. Yes, I am doing that and I am open for any reaction 
>>> whatsoever,because, ultimately, we are here to learn from each
other. 
>>> Now for instance, you have taught me to adhere to etiquettes and 
>>> manners, I will do it. You think, I sound bossy. If so, I am
prepared 
>>> for any sort of punishment only I should know as to what is it. Do
you 
>>> want to propose my elimination from the list? you can because, you
are 
>>> the master of your own decision. You say that, I should write to you
in 
>>> person, but, I commit mistake in public so I also stand to be
corrected 
>>> in public. Of course I know that it calls for lot of patience and 
>>> courage to accept it.I agree that, mistakes are made when you write
in 
>>> hurry, but,  the text can be edited, rectified and thus all this can
be 
>>> avoided. Whether you agree or not but, it is for anyone that, it
does 
>>> give the glimpse  of your personality from the way you write or
speak 
>>> and address to others.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "akhilesh" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 3:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)
>>>
>>>
 MR. namdeo,
 I would be very happy person if you keep your free advises with 
 you,
 sir.
 I think I don't require them. As far as the matter of too and also
is
 concern, I'm very much aware about these things. But when you write
 your mail in a hurry, many people make such kind of mistakes. But
I'm
 seeing since last few mails that you're sounding a bit bossy. Let
the
 moderator do his work.
 When you point a finger at somebody, just see yourself as well. Do
you
 know that these sorts of mistakes are told in personal? Means, you
 should have written me personally if you have found anything wrong
in
 my mail. The way you are reacting on my mail, and the forum on
which
 you are delivering such advises, it shows that you have forgot the
 lessons of etiquettes and manners.
 thanks,
 Akhilesh.


 On 10/28/10, namdeo2000  wrote:
> When you use the word [also], in a sentense, you need not use 
> [too],
> in the
> same sentense.
> - Original Message -
> From: "akhilesh" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)
>>>

Re: [AI] a very strange problem with my nokia n79

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hi Austin,

Show your phone to authorized service center and always put original
battery as many variants are available in market which can damage
product.

Cheers,

Pankaj
 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin
pinto
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:26 PM
To: sunilsangtani; accessindia; Talks Mailing List; The Accessible
Phones Discussion List; Voice Vision.; bhavesh; access-uk
Subject: [AI] a very strange problem with my nokia n79


hi all i just took my phone 5 munths back but im notissing that there is
a considrable reduction in phones battery time i tried new battery but
no use what must be hapening please help

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Re: [AI] need help to restore internet settings in windows 7

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hi Austin,

Your question is subjective, you have to find out connection speed from
dial up or broadband connection, what was the speed before and now in
MBPS. Have you checked in different times of day or even check with your
service provider as they say many times ,some problem exist in network.

Cheers,

Pankaj  

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin
pinto
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:58 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] need help to restore internet settings in windows 7


hi all
pankaj i already did that but no use its still the same

On 11/2/10, Pankaj Kwatra  wrote:
> Hi Austin,
>
> Remove the program installed to optimize internet and then restart 
> your system.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pankaj
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin 
> pinto
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:06 AM
> To: sunilsangtani; accessindia; Voice Vision.; jaws...@freelists.org; 
> blindwindo...@yahoogroups.com; bhavesh; access-uk
> Subject: [AI] need help to restore internet settings in windows 7
>
>
> hi all i used auslogics internet optimiser to optimise my connection 
> but insterd of optimising it it reduced the speed mainly the download 
> speed is there any way of restoring the settings to original? i 
> installed auslogics on 9thoct i went to system restore and its not 
> showing any restor points for any event beafore 22nd oct what do i do
>
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Re: [AI] Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) Exam

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Friend,

Way to go and show the path to aspiring candidates. Congrats on your
achievement.

Cheers,

Pankaj
 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant
Naik
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) Exam


Hello friends,

Wish to share this good news that today I passed my "Microsoft Certified
Professional (MCP)" exam.  My course was on Windows 7 OS.

Also want to share that Microsoft Certification Exam Policies are well
accommodative.

Please visit this link to read more.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/exam-policies.aspx
#tab5

Other useful info
Microsoft certification Toll Free - 1800 111 000

Exam centers of Microsoft is Prometric

Prometric Customer Care Toll free - 91-124-4517160
Email - pro.globalcandidateservi...@prometric.com

Hope this info will help our other friends who may wish to take
Microsoft certification exams.

Thanks,
Prashant Naik

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[AI] Problem with dialing number with N73

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,
 
I have N73 with talks installed ,earlier then latest version. Now when I
start typing number on main screen ,after just one or two numbers the
phone hangs.
 
Please tell me what can be the reason,whether the cursor adjustment is
to be done,I have switched off speed dial,as two sounds are heard when
number is pressed.
 
Cheers,
 
Pankaj  
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] Problem with dialing number with N73

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hi Amar,

Many thanks for your answer ,problem is solved.

Cheers,

Pankaj



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem with dialing number with N73


Dear Sir
Kindly disable keypad tones, it will not hang.
Regards
Amar Jain.
-Original Message- 
From: Pankaj Kwatra
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 12:14 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Problem with dialing number with N73

Hello All,

I have N73 with talks installed ,earlier then latest version. Now when I
start typing number on main screen ,after just one or two numbers the
phone hangs.

Please tell me what can be the reason,whether the cursor adjustment is
to be done,I have switched off speed dial,as two sounds are heard when
number is pressed.

Cheers,

Pankaj



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Re: [AI] backing up of messages in the mobile to the memory card

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello RENUKA,

The memory in use is to be changed every time to check details in different 
memory or if more data is to be stored , additional memory storage space is 
better option.

Cheers,

Pankaj 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of RENUKA WARRIER
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:54 PM
To: umarluha...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] backing up of messages in the mobile to the memory card


But I cannot find the messages or the phone numbers which I have saved to 
the memory card.
E RENUKA,
SECTION OFFICER,
ICT CENTRE FOR VISUALLY CHALLENGED,
CHMK LIBRARY,
UNIVERSITY OF CALICUT
CALICUT, UNIVERSITY P O,
MALAPPURAM DISTRICT,
KERALA.
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] backing up of messages in the mobile to the memory card


>
> go to inbox and look as before you were doing.
> Umarluhar mobile 09687362272
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [AI] backing up of messages in the mobile to the memory
> card
> From: "RENUKA WARRIER" 
> Date: 03/11/2010 6:56 pm
>
> Hi,
> Thank you for this info.  I have successfully done it.  But I could
> not
> find
> a way to see the messages or the phone numbers which I have moved to the
> memory card.  It will be great if the method to see these will also be
> shared.
>
> E RENUKA,
> SECTION OFFICER,
> ICT CENTRE FOR VISUALLY CHALLENGED,
> CHMK LIBRARY,
> UNIVERSITY OF CALICUT
> CALICUT, UNIVERSITY P O,
> MALAPPURAM DISTRICT,
> KERALA.
> - Original Message -
> From: "YADAV, D. N" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 5:16 PM
> Subject: [AI] backing up of messages in the mobile to the memory card
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Please try & see.
>>
>> Once you on ‘Inbox’ folder, find ‘setting’ in option menu.  Open
>> ‘setting’ & find ‘other’ (6th down arrow) in the end.  Open it & you 
>> may find … memory in use(3 or 4th down arrow).  Change as per your 
>> need.  Wish you a success.
>>
>>
>>
>> दीनानाथ यादव
>> निजी सचिव - २
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>> HQ, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic 
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>> disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender 
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Re: [AI] Discremination between Blind and Low-Vision Candidates.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

I could not resist sharing my views on this issue, certainly authorities
are taking advantage of this category which is reserved for visually
challenged people where low vision candidates are preferred over
completely blind person fulfilling hiring criteria.

Lets see what other list members have to say.

Cheers,

Pankaj
 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amiyo
Biswas
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:10 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Discremination between Blind and Low-Vision Candidates.


Hello,

There was an advertisement in the Anandabazar Patrika, a leading Bengali
daily, on November 2 asking for applications for about 1000 jobs in the
South-Eastern Railway. There are several posts like fitters, machinists,
telecom technicians, etc. which have been reserved for low-vision
candidates. I know, there are several totally blind fitters and
machinists in Lilua and Kharagpur Railway workshops. Still these posts
have been earmarked for low-vision applicants only. What is most
significant is that there is no post for totally blind candidates in
this advertisement. According to the ad, it should be available at
www.rrbkolkata.org You can check the web site for details. But the link
is not working yet.

I am seriously worried if totally blind candidates are going to be
considered at all for jobs in future. I am not against the low-vision
people. At least, they are more wanted than we are; aren't they lucky?
We want employment for all, for blind people, low-vision people and for
sighted people. We belong to the same society.

Blind Persons' Association has appealed to the Railway Minister, Miss
Mamata Banerjee, today. I have asked them to appeal to the Chief
Commissioner on Disabilities. They have asked me to find out if any
relevant documents such as court order are available. So, if someone has
any document, pleas mail a copy to me or to bpain...@gmail.com


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: 9433464329
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Re: [AI] Standard of blind schools

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

My question is on below lines , if people on this list from outside
India throw some light on given topic to ascertain if UN norms are
followed or countries just ratify treaty or pass resolution for name
sake.

Cheers,

Pankaj   

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sohan
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Standard of blind schools


hello sir,please tell sonething about the schools and education of
visually 
challenged in america and what are the things different in America from 
here. What r the facilities the students provided by Government and
other 
private institutions.
thanks.
with more regards
sohan.

- Original Message - 
From: "Steven Max-Faults" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Standard of blind schools


>
>
> Dear All,
>
> I don't really know very much about education for the blind in India, 
> but I am currently with the Mathru School in Bangalore. We have mostly
> residential students from 1st standard through 10th
> standard, as well as college students who go to the nearby government 
> school,
> but who stay here and receive study help etc. I've only been here for
a 
> short
> time, but from what I can tell, the students are well-taken-care-of
and 
> receive
> a good education. They are reading Braille, using the slate, and they
have 
> a
> pretty good grasp of Jaws and the Microsoft programs. They have not, 
> however,
> been introduced to the internet, which is one thing I am working on.
They 
> go to
> the park for physical exercise every afternoon. I heard that some of
the
> students play cricket, but I haven't yet seen this. Daily, they do
yoga, 
> pray,
> and sing or play an instrument. I have not yet attended an art lesson,
so 
> I can't
> comment on this, but I'm looking forward to it. The teachers are
really
> qualified, accomplished and dedicated. Our principal has a great
attitude
> towards the independence and success of blind people, and she really
does 
> a great
> job managing the school. In their turn, the students are generally 
> respectful,
> friendly, and willing to learn. Naturally, however, some are stronger
than
> others, and some are more willing to study and work hard.
>
>
>
> I don't have much with which to compare this school, but if
> I had a blind child, I would not mind sending her here. Please feel
free 
> to ask
> me any questions. This is an interesting discussion for me as someone
from
> America, where things are pretty different.
>
>
>
> Steven
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] adding simbles in e72 SMS

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello

I do it by pressing left button to zero on keypad ,I thing it is hash to
get the list of symbols and any symbol can be selected and press ok to
insert in message.

Cheers,

Pankaj 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kakarla
Nageswaraiah
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:44 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] adding simbles in e72 SMS


I think by pressing Chr key once or twice, you'll get the list of
available symbols.  Go to the desired one using the arrow keys and press
select key thereon.  To insert the symbols not found in the list, I copy
them from the emails and insert wherever needed.  Hope this works.
Regards.


-original message-
Subject: [AI] adding simbles in e72 SMS
From: "Dr. TVGNS Sudhakar" 
Date: 12/11/2010 11:21 am

Dear listers,

 

I would like to know, in e72 wile we tipe SMS  how to enter the certain
carecters: #$%^&_+.

 

Thanks,

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Re: [AI] Problem regarding outlook express

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello

Outlook express is allocated some space onto hard disk, either you can
increase space or store your old messages in some folder , you have to
backup your messages to avoid any chance of loosing any data . Auto
archive, compacting of messages is required when dealing with volumes.

Cheers,

Pankaj 

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of RAKESH
KUMAR GUPTA
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:26 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem regarding outlook express


Press on OK.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rohiet A. Patil" 
To: 
Cc: "Voice Vision. " 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: [AI] Problem regarding outlook express


> Hi all!
> From some days, I am facing a problem in outlook express. Whenever I 
> exit
> from the application, the following dialogue appears. Outlook Express
> To free up disk space, Outlook Express can compact messages. This may
take 
> up to a few minutes.graphic 132
> OK Cancel which I don't want to do.
> Because I heard from some one that some messages may get los in this 
> process. I deleted 5400 messages from deleted items folder but still
the 
> problem is there. So I request all of you to please give me some
sollution 
> for the same.
> Thanks and regards,
> Rohiet
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Re: [AI] Shrinivasu gets the yahoo Ratna Award

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello List members,

Congratulation to Mr. Shrinivasu. 

A few good people in few good companies does recognize work.

Regards,

Pankaj  

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:07 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Shrinivasu gets the yahoo Ratna Award


Dear friends,

I am glad to share the News that one of our list members mr. Shrinivasu
has been honored with "Yahoo Ratna Award," given at Yahoo India Office
to it's employees for the out standing performance in the work.

Congratulation! Vasu, Would like to hear more from you about this Award
and acomplishment.

regards,

Amit Bhatt
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Re: [AI] windows explorer question

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hi Jean,

The problem is with Jaws as it changes focus or cursor position shifts
to top of list, you can try doing jaws to default setting or while on
windows explorer ,use insert plus v to make adjustments.

Cheers,

Pankaj 

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 3:41 PM
To: Jeevaraj; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] windows explorer question


Hi:

Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not sure how this works.  What I want
to accomplish is that after I delete or move a file from windows
explorer, I want jaws to begin reading the list of files from where I
left off instead of beginning at the top of the list.  

Jean
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeevaraj 
  To: Jean Parker ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 1:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] windows explorer question


  hello 
  i hope, it will help you out 
  press insert S, where you getting problom. set that in to Highlighted.
  if the problom persist, you can press space bar when its reading
continuously. the curser will move to the next item, where you deleted.

  with best regards
  Jeeva 



   
  On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Jean Parker 
wrote:

Amar:

If I delete something from the desktop jaws does not begin reading
from the top.  I think it reads from the next item in the row, not the
column. Either that or jaws begins reading at some random location
within the list, I'm not sure.  The point being that it does not resume
reading just after the deleted file.

I hope that answers your question and again, thanks for any help.

Jean

- Original Message - From: "Amar Jain"
 

To: "Jean Parker" ;


Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 10:29 PM 

Subject: Re: [AI] windows explorer question



  Jean Mam,
  Just tell me whether it is also happening with your icons on
desktop?
  -Original Message- From: Jean Parker
  Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 10:21 PM
  To: B. P. Mohith ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] windows explorer question

  That's very strange because I am also using jaws 11.  After
deleting an item
  it begins reading from the top of the list.  Of course I can hit
the letter
  of the next thing and resume from there but what if there a lot of
items in
  the list beginning with the same letter or number?  It's an
annoyance really
  and has been since the beginning.
  I would be interested in what settings give you the ability to
resume
  reading where you left off in the list?

  Jean

  - Original Message - From: "B. P. Mohith"

  To: "Jean Parker" ;

  Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] windows explorer question



Hello,
I am unclear about your problem,
I am using windows xp with jaws 11,
after deleting any items in windows explorer/my computer here
jaws is
not reading whole list rather the focus will be on the next
item, but
it will not be selected.


On 11/12/10, Jean Parker  wrote:

  Dear All:

  Now a question about windows explorer.  Let's suppose you are
arrowing
  through a list of files, and you want to delete one or move it
or something.
   After taking that action, jaws begins reading the list from
the top. In a
  list containing dozens or hundreds of files this is very
annoying.  Is there
  any way to fix this?  Is this a jaws problem or a windows
explorer problem?

  As always, any help much appreciated,

  Jean
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"Strength is life, weakness is death"

Best Regards
Mohith B. P.
Personal ID:
mohit...@rediffmail.com



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Re: [AI] Mobile banking set to get a boost from IMPS

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello,

This sounds great as seeing mobile attachment with people now a days and
mobile queries in access india but only concern is security, will it be
able to replicate secured internet transaction as mobile is used for
different purposes.

Few days back I was trying to do something with nokia map after reading
Harish email but after few minutes figured battery down from 7 bars to 4
bars.

Happy surfing, navigating and so onkeep a eye on battery also.

Cheers,

Pankaj   

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mahendra
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 11:37 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Mobile banking set to get a boost from IMPS


thanks Amar, if i have more questions, will write to you.
At 08:39 AM 11/28/2010, you wrote:
>Dear Bhaiya:
>Interbank moble payment system is launched by National Payment
>Corporation of India.
>Currently if I am right, then there are 7 banks participating in 
>this system, including the big market player SBI. More 16 are in 
>process, and 22 other banks will be participating soon.
>In this system, as of now, Java based applications have got this 
>functionality of transfering funds into participating banks of this 
>system, and as the talks grow more with the mobile operators, soon 
>SMS based services will be available free of cost. Currently banks I 
>think are charging 50 paisa along with the rates of SMS which should 
>be 3 rupees per SMS. As I mentioned, trai is trying to get it reduced.
>In this system, a user is alotted a unique MMID, full form is mobile 
>money ID if I remember, along with the registered number for mobile
banking.
>So say if I have account in SBI, and I have to transfer funds to 
>your YES bank account, I will give your mobile number and MMID which 
>you will provide me, after security checks are completed, funds will 
>be debeted to your account. It'ss almost realtime process, complaint 
>mechanism is also setup by banks in order to ease the process.
>For any further doubt, do get in touch with me.
>Regards
>Amar Jain.
>-Original Message- From: mahendra
>Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 12:41 PM
>To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>Subject: Re: [AI] Mobile banking set to get a boost from IMPS
>
>this is of course great, can some one explain how it will work? no 
>internet, only through SMS?
>
>At 06:04 AM 11/28/2010, you wrote:
>>Mobile banking set to get a boost from IMPS
>>
>>Vasudha Venugopal
>>Unlike Internet banking which is confined to the tech-savvy, this
>>will benefit average user
>>--
--
>>
>>The service will help banks offer money transfer in seven seconds
>>
>>The latest security measures are put in place
>>
>>--
>>--
>>
>>CHENNAI: Customers will now be able to transfer money from their
>>accounts to any other account in the country using their 
>>cellphones, through the National
>>Payment Corporation of India's Inter-bank Mobile Payment Service 
>>(IMPS). The facility allows transactions without the need for a 
>>computer or an Internet-enabled
>>phone.
>>
>>Experts say the service introduces a new form of
>>customer-friendliness that a developing ICT nation like India 
>>requires. The Telecom Regulatory Authority
>>of India records more than 670 million registered mobile 
>>subscribers; with the penetration of Internet technologies through 
>>mobile phones being higher
>>than the spread of the Internet through broadband connections, the 
>>service, they reckon, is expected to boost banking transactions 
>>better than Internet
>>banking.
>>
>>"Though the Internet banking services are user-friendly, they are
>>actually restricted to a limited number of tech-savvy, 
>>English-speaking Internet users
>>in the country. With the IMPS, the mobile phone, which is 
>>ubiquitous, becomes a handier device for the average user," says 
>>Nishant Shah, director (research),
>>Centre for Internet and Security.
>>
>>The service provides an inter-operable infrastructure for banks to
>>offer a real-time money transfer facility to customers through 
>>mobile phones in seven
>>seconds, says A.P. Hota, CEO and Managing Director of the NPCI. The 
>>mobile fund transfers offered by banks and technology providers 
>>take 24 hours, and
>>are allowed only if the sender and the receiver hold accounts in 
>>the same bank, a hiccup the IMPS seeks to overcome.
>>
>>With mobile phone-based applications popular and more inclusive in
>>their reach, Mr. Shah says, it might be not only more far-reaching 
>>to have banking services
>>available through encrypted SMS systems, because it is a medium 
>>that people are familiar with, but also the application-based 
>>systems are going to benefit
>>a lot of people, especially who live in areas with inadequate 
>>access to banking systems.
>>
>>Citing 

Re: [AI] Trouble receiving mails in MS Outlook

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello

Two things you can do is:

1. Delete older emails or shift to some folder, you have emails in sent
items which needs to be cleared, use auto archive and compress message
option in outlook.
2. After trying first option if still does not work then configure your
outlook again because sometimes connection is lost.

Cheers,

Pankaj


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Payal
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:07 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Trouble receiving mails in MS Outlook


Hi

 

As the subject suggests, I am not able to download any new messages in
my Outlook 2003. It worked fine until a couple of days ago, but when I
tried this morning, it downloads nothing while there are large numbers
of messages on my g mail on the web. Any idea what could have gone
wrong? Any help or suggestions?

 

Thanks

 

Payal

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Re: [AI] Info needed about persons doing CS

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello

Please visit company secretary institute website at :

www.icsi.edu/ -

I have done foundation ,joined intermediate but could not complete as
went for M.B.A. 

Cheers,

Pankaj

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of lingam
prathusha
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:01 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Info needed about persons doing CS


Hi all accessindians Hope every 1 is doing well. All my dear indians
help me to get info about the persons who are doing company secretary.
Try to help me as, Early as possible. Thanks in anticipation. Regards

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[AI] Nokia maps working for N73 ME

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Dear All,

Is Nokia map working for N73 ME without GPRS connection for anybody.

Cheers ,

Pankaj 

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[AI] Query on screen reader

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Dear All,

Do we have a screen reader with less price which works perfectly with
all Microsoft applications. 

 Windows does not have its own screen reader or do they have with win 7

Please enlighten .

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Pankaj   

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Re: [AI] How to convert .kes files to word?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello
Save the file in different format i.e .doc or txt with Kurswale.

Cheers,

Pankaj 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of moiz
tundawala
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:51 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] How to convert .kes files to word?

Hi
I have some .kes files which do not open in word. May be they have
been scanned using the Kurswale scanning software. How do I convert
them to word?
Thanks,
Moiz.

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Re: [AI] only for the job fair

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

I feel any NGO doing some work for handicap community must be
appreciated. We have to learn from our experiences, please remember
first time is not always last chance. The private sector is not very
opened to physically challenged people, the reason can be awareness both
from government and private bodies. We need to have some regulations in
place, things are changing but patience is required. NGOs can avoid lot
of candidates in job fair which can be done with screening of
application in line to company requirement.

Once a person is placed, the actual work starts to prove his/her worth
to company .I believe lot of people leave as they could not cope up with
corporate environment. We have to support physically challenged
community as people have lot of talent or immense potential, only if
given a chance and we all strive and look forward for that single
opportunity.

Lets keep doing good work rest leave everything behind.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra   

  

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
Chakravarthula
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:54 AM
To: kara...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] only for the job fair

Rakesh,
Specific to your poinnt someone not willing to use NVDA, I think, he
is right. It's his choice what screen reader he would want to use as
long as he has all required skills. Although, companies do not like to
make more investment, if a candidate has desired skills and improves
their business significantly, then no matter how expensive the
additional support they will be provided.

Having said that, if there is any possibility we should try and avoid
additional investment to a company. But as I said, it's a choice.

On 12/14/10, KARAN GUPTA  wrote:
> I share exactly the same experience as Mr Vamshi had, spending too
much time
> and money when I went all the way to pune last month in a job fair
held by
> 'Ekaansh' backed by some big business house...I did not find anything
> accordingly rather I had been provided with plenty of wrong
information just
> to increase the numbers. On the other hand, my personal experience
with the
> Sarthak-NASSCOM job fair was extremely good. It also depends on how
well an
> individual pulls up the right information about any particular event.
> Eventually, all the NGOs are more or less try to do some really good
job. It
> will keep on improving years after years and we all are learning
through it
> in a positive manner. As I believe organizers work even harder to
muster all
> things in place.
>
> Karan Gupta
>
>
>
> ~ Sent from my mobile device.-
>
> Original Message-
> From: Vamshi. G
> Sent:  14/12/2010, 10:45  PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] only for the job fair
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Agree with you all.  But when a candidate hasn't got the required
> qualifications for the jobs the company has announced, the candidate
> should not be called at all, instead of calling him just to increase
> the strength of the attendance.
>
> I am not talking about the current case, as I know nothing about it.
> But I attended a job fair for disabled at Delhi, going all the way
> from Tirupati, in 2008 where my experience was not that great.  I
> clearly wrote in my resume that I am working as a lecturer and my
> academics are in finance and marketing.
>
> I was given a list of companies whose interviews I can attend.
>
> 1.  One company said they are not looking for people from teaching
> background.
>
> 2.  Another company said they don't have anyone from finance
> department to take my interview.
>
> 3.  Third company said I was over qualified for the job they have
announced.
>
> 4.  Fourth company said they don't have any openings in finance field.
>
> Besides, there were a few big MNCs who conducted exams for some posts.
>  When I told them that I wanted a scribe, they told me that I need not
> write the exam.  I thought they exempted me from writing the exam, but
> later came to know that they exempted me from the recruitment.
>
> I totally accept with all the companies.  But my only concern was
> that, had I been told all this before hand, I wouldn't have gone all
> the way from Tirupati to Delhi.
>
> And I totally accept that, any criticism, whether bear or
> constructive, should be directed to the concerned parties and not on
> public platforms.
>
> --
> G. Vamshi
> PH Res : +91 877-2243861
> Mobile: +91 9949349497
> E-mail ID:
> gvamsh...@gmail.com
> Skype: gvamshi81
>
> www.retinaindia.org
> From darkness unto light
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/14/10, George Abraham  wrote:
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> I do know

[AI] Comparison between Jaws and NVDA

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

I need to know if NVDA works exactly the same as jaws in terms of
stability and accessibility with windows OS.Software should be certified
to use in company environment as information security come into place.
Individual use can have any screen reader but for company ,a good
certified and tested software is required to run on various application.
Please give
any suggestion for reasonably priced software for company use.

Cheers,

Pankaj  . 

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Re: [AI] Query regarding NVDA

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Dear Amar,

This is the best and most interesting part in programming, I learned
object oriented programming language during my PGDCA.

Starting from C language whereas print f and scan f were used to C plus
where functionality was enhanced to C in and C out. Now in C plus we
used to define structures where all variables were defined in one class
and functions were written where these variables were called. Structures
were called parent class and various subclasses or functions were child
classes .

Java is based on object oriented programming where different functions
are written i.e. on mouse over etc. Now we have to call printer function
in all application so one function is written in programming and this
function is called when ever needed instead of writing repeatedly.

Now while writing a program, the parent class is defined first with
global variables and classes and functions and then subsequently various
sub classes and functions are written.

I could relate NVDA to mouse over function as somebody mentioned it
speaks when mouse cursor is moved on screen.

Cheers,

Pankaj
 



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:37 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Querry regarding NVDA

Object curser or object navigation is the answer.
It is described in the documentation, there are some parent and child
object 
concepts included in it, however, neither I could understand it and nor
I 
did have the time to explore it.
>From those who didn't explore NVDA very seriously, I couldn't understand

this feature.
I have little time in hand, will try exploring it, and will write if I 
understand.
Regards
Jain.
-Original Message- 
From: jyotsna diwan
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Querry regarding NVDA

Hi all,
I am a new user of NVDA and want to know that is there any such
feature similar to Jaws cursor in NVDA to access those portions of the
screen which can not be accessed through normal cursor navigation.
Any help in this regard would be deeply appreciated.

Thanks in anticipation,
Jyotsna

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Re: [AI] Query regarding NVDA

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello,

I gave you the source, sorry if you are not able to understand as object
oriented language is used for such applications as I could make out from
Amar's email. The application uses small programs based on objects or
functions which are called in any class. This makes application platform
independent,,instead of writing big programs which are difficult to
debug if future up gradation or enhancement is to be done , object
oriented language is used. Lets see if people in this list are able to
relate.

Cheers,

Pankaj

  a 

Thank you,

Pankaj 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravi Paul
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding NVDA

Hi there, sorry, but he was talking about the object navigation
concept in NVDA-it is not related to programming as such.

On 12/15/10, Pankaj Kwatra  wrote:
> Dear Amar,
>
> This is the best and most interesting part in programming, I learned
> object oriented programming language during my PGDCA.
>
> Starting from C language whereas print f and scan f were used to C
plus
> where functionality was enhanced to C in and C out. Now in C plus we
> used to define structures where all variables were defined in one
class
> and functions were written where these variables were called.
Structures
> were called parent class and various subclasses or functions were
child
> classes .
>
> Java is based on object oriented programming where different functions
> are written i.e. on mouse over etc. Now we have to call printer
function
> in all application so one function is written in programming and this
> function is called when ever needed instead of writing repeatedly.
>
> Now while writing a program, the parent class is defined first with
> global variables and classes and functions and then subsequently
various
> sub classes and functions are written.
>
> I could relate NVDA to mouse over function as somebody mentioned it
> speaks when mouse cursor is moved on screen.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pankaj
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:37 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Querry regarding NVDA
>
> Object curser or object navigation is the answer.
> It is described in the documentation, there are some parent and child
> object
> concepts included in it, however, neither I could understand it and
nor
> I
> did have the time to explore it.
> From those who didn't explore NVDA very seriously, I couldn't
understand
>
> this feature.
> I have little time in hand, will try exploring it, and will write if I
> understand.
> Regards
> Jain.
> -Original Message-
> From: jyotsna diwan
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:20 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Querry regarding NVDA
>
> Hi all,
> I am a new user of NVDA and want to know that is there any such
> feature similar to Jaws cursor in NVDA to access those portions of the
> screen which can not be accessed through normal cursor navigation.
> Any help in this regard would be deeply appreciated.
>
> Thanks in anticipation,
> Jyotsna
>
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[AI] Query on anti virus and NVDA

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

I have query on anti virus, do we have to go to market to buy or it can
be bought over internet and anybody has done it.

Mouse functionality in NVDA,does mouse works in this screen reader as
mouse is not used in jaws i.e. if we move mouse on screen to know
everything on desktop, as toolbars and lot of things cannot be read by
jaws.

Cheers,

Pankaj 

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Re: [AI] Paste option in MS Word is gone

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello,

Kindly ask your friend to change text, font from format menu and try it
as I also faced such problem with another application.

Pankaj

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ashik
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:18 AM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Paste option in MS Word is gone

Dear Friends,

There is a friend of mine in Ahmedabad who is facing a strange problem
in MS Word. He is unable to Paste the text he has copied to the
Clipboard. He can Paste from Notepad to Notepad, but he can not Paste
from Notepad to Word document nor from Word document to Word document.
He has uninstalled and re-installed Microsoft Word several times, but to
no avail. Please suggest something so that he can resolve the issue.

Thanking you in anticipation.
- - -
Ashik Hirani
Landline phone: 02849-242233
Skype: ashikali.hirani
I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace.
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Re: [AI] Sachem beats 50th hundred

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello ,

Little master is hardy person with resilience and endurance with impeccable 
record.

Simply great ,words cannot explain such people.

Cheers,

Pankaj

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jeevan Reddy
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 11:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Sachin beats 50th hundred

HI,
It's Awesome to see Tiredless Little masters 50th ton.
Hope he'll continue the same form and get another world cup for India.

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Sinoj  wrote:
> Sachin beats 50th hundred just now.
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-- 
"B Positive"

Warm Regards,
A Jeevan Reddy,
Accessibility Consultant,
Onya Digital Solutions, Bangalore,
Mob: +91 8050761380.

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Re: [AI] Regarding making joint account in PNB

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Anil,

I have done the same with HDFC without any problem.

Thank you,

Pankaj

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Subject: [AI] Regarding making joint account in PNB

Dear Friends,

I have salary account in Panjab National Bank (PNB) here in my company
premises in Surat, Gujarat.  I wish to make my account as joint
account with my wife.  With that purpose, when I approached the bank
manager, he told me that a salary account cannot make as joint
account.  Please guide me in this regard.  Could you tell me what is
the criteria of making joint account?  Isn't it possible to make a
salary account as joint account?  Is there any guideline or circular
in this direction?

I would be grateful, if someone throw some light on this matter.
Looking forward to hear from you.

Thanks in anticipation

With best regards,

Anil.

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Re: [AI] my all the mails of access India mailing list are going inspam folder

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Everyone,

I think if you add accessindia email id to address book then it will land into 
inbox and regarding yahoo ,some problems are faced as check all link gives 
undesired result, some issue is also faced with alt back arrow as it does not 
take you to previous page.

Regards,

Pankaj

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Subject: Re: [AI] my all the mails of accessindia mailing list are going inspam 
folder

Dear friends,  I have same problem,  I have yahoo mail,  and not only access 
india also others most of mail is going in spam folder,  and another problem is 
that again and again yahoo show the captcha immage when I post mail any where,  
this is a bad habit from yahoo.    please suggest me what should aI do? 
with regards-
Dr. A.K. Verma

--- On Tue, 21/12/10, bhavesh  wrote:


From: bhavesh 
Subject: [AI] my all the mails of accessindia mailing list are going in spam 
folder
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Date: Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, 1:38 AM


Hi friends, as i mentioned in subject, my all mails of accesssindia are goind 
in directly to the spam folder. i am using rediffmail. please suggest me what 
should i do?



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Re: [AI] BoB Probationary Officers recruitment Jan-2011

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

3 percent for PH, in absence of correct data for PWD at present. This
percentage level will remain same or there is any chance of increasing
number of posts for PWD and with 27 posts ,we will also have backlog.
What about sub categories in PH . A PH candidate can also belong to
SC/ST/OBC ,so any advantage of vacancies.

Thank you,

Pankaj Kwatra

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banakar
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Subject: [AI] BoB Probationary Officers recruitment Jan-2011

 Bank of Baroda (BOB)

Bank of Baroda (BoB), India's International Bank, looking for - 99
young, qualified and active minds to be partners in the transformation
programme of the Bank as Probationary Officers in Junior Management
Grade / Scale-I: 

Probationary Officers (JMG-I) : 900 posts (UR-450, SC-142, ST-72,
OBC-236) 27 posts   for PH candidates, Pay Scale : (JMG-I) :
Rs.1-18240/-, Age (As on 01/01/2011) : 21-30 years 

Application Fee : Rs. 300/- (Rs. 50/- for SC/ST/ PWD candidates on
postage charges only) in any nearest Bank of Baroda Branch with the Fee
payment Challan duly filled in and pay, in Cash, the appropriate 
Application Fee in Account No.2904020198 with Bandra Kurla Complex
Branch in favour of "Bank of Baroda Recruitment of  Officers Recruitment
Project 2011-12".  Obtain the Counterfoil (Applicant's Copy) of the Fee
Payment Challan duly received by the Bank with (a) Branch Name & Code
Number, (b) Transaction ID, (c) Date of Deposit & amount filled by the
Branch Official. 

How to Apply : Eligible candidates are advised to apply 'ONLINE' only at
Bank of Baroda website.

Important Dates: 

Date for Online Registration : 05/01/2011 to 25/01/2011 
Date of Written Test : 13/03/2011 
For more information, please view
http://www.bankofbaroda.com/recruitment.asp?artid=2336&modid=36, the
link to Apply Online will be available 05/01/2011 onwards.

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Re: [AI] A write-up in DH on World Braille Day

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Friends,

I am of a thought that any technology which does not
change,enhanced,improved with time will become defunct one day or will
have slender use. 

The germane issue with me is going wit technology which can educate me,
make me independent in mobility and living ,help making things
accessible   i.e. includes use of manual and electronic medium or
instruments, get me employment without much cost and gives opportunity
to grow or progress as an individual .

I do not oppose or favor any technique or technology.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra

  

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Viraj Kafle
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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A writeup in DH on World Braille Day

Yes. But the dangerous thing is that Braille is being pushed aside from
our 
day-to-day life and surfacing as something very advanced and high-tech,
thus 
becoming gradually inaccessible to the visually impaired masses.
- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] A writeup in DH on World Braille Day


>A balanced assessment,  nicely and wisely worded.
>
>
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L
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> Subject: [AI] A writeup in DH on World Braille Day
>
> Something I have written in today's DH. Leaving it for your views and 
> comments.
>
>
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/126045/iphones-ipads-make-braille-st
ill.html
>
> Subramani
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Re: [AI] New draft bill for the disabled in rough waters

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

We appreciate industrious and credible effort put by each committee
members. I am of a view that it is indispensable to give more time to
law   and thought process as law gives guidelines which in turn leads to
policy framework and implementation.

The present law of 1995 is to be analyzed in line to shortfalls in
implementation and communication which is interpreted differently by
various agencies.

The new law should cover complete life span fowls which in turn divides
into various stages starting from education, right from primary to
professional and I believe a group of qualified and experienced members
should be assigned for each stage .The members have to be meticulous
about each detail gathered by primary and secondary data.

The next stage would be employment, I believe PWD with lot of hardships
get professionally qualified to know no job exist for them or various
hurdles are put in employment.

The last stage covers all benefits to Pads.

I would like to sum up that as a citizen of India  ,I should not be left
behind in any aspect of life.

Please spare me for any pedestrian comments.

Thank you,

Pankaj Kwatra

   .   .   

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ram
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:23 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] New draft bill for the disabled in rough waters

Dear Harish and other friends of AI family,

Since, I am a member of this family and have learnt a lot from you all
and 
cherished lot of good moments and thoughts and since I am a member of
the 
Committee constituted by the Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
(MSJ & 
E) to draft a new act to replace the PWD act, in consonance and harmony
with 
the provisions of UNCRPD, I felt that I should share the happenings in
the 
above committee.  I don't want to enter in to any controversy and I
don't 
belong to any group, except being the Secretary General of NAB (India)
and 
myself, visually challenged.

The committee was constituted by the ministry in April with the above 
mandate, but was expanded with more disabled members, as many persons
and 
NGOs insisted that the committee should have more representation
disabled 
members. For example, Mr. Kaul of AICB met the minister and requested
him to 
have at least one of the chiefs of the three national level blindness 
institutions, to be included. He, in fact,strongly suggested my name. A 
common letter from NFB, AICB and NAB (India), signed by Mr. Santosh
Rungta, 
Mr. J. L. Kaul and myself, in this regard was submitted to the ministry
and 
I was included accordingly in June 2010. I wish to clarify this, as some

others were trying to take credit for this, as if they had done me some 
favor. You all know that I am least interested in any position and
glory, 
but will do anything possible to benefit Visually challenged.

The committee was decomposed in to many smaller groups to focus on
specific 
topics and later, the entire committee will look at all the provisions
of 
various groups. I was involved in employment, Social security and now in

Financials.

The groups met among themselves in July and August, met the legal
consultant 
in turn, to discuss the legality of various suggestions and finished
their 
work, sometime in September 2010 and this was discussed at NALSAR in 
details.

Please note that, when the committee met the civil society for the first

time, the members of various groups, actually had not gone through the 
entire act and therefore, couldn't explain or defend the same. While, I 
strongly felt that the committee should finish its mandate and then the 
entire act should be discussed in the full committee and then we should
face 
the civil society, though some other members felt that the civil society

should be asked to give its comments. In anycase, we went to the civil 
society consultations.

During the consultations, many members made very concrete suggestions,
but I 
felt that we should have taken a little more time in studying and 
understanding the entire act and then interact with the civil society,
so 
that the interaction would have been more meaningful and some of the
members 
of the civil society wouldn't have got the feeling that the committee is
not 
unanimous on its views.

It was agreed that the legal consultants will work on the draft and the
same 
would be discussed in the full committee meeting on 26 and 27 November,
2010 
and it will be notified in the end of November, which will followed by
civil 
society consultations on 7 and 8 of December and then the state level 
consultations. At least, when I went through the draft of December, I
felt 
that some provisions have not come, the way we had discussed and
suggested. 
I was of the feeling that the changes will have to be discussed with the

legal consultants.

We are fully aware that an attempt is being mad

Re: [AI] New draft bill for the disabled in rough waters

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Correction Dictionary manager changed text 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pankaj
Kwatra
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:35 PM
To: ram; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] New draft bill for the disabled in rough waters

Hello All,

We appreciate industrious and credible effort put by each committee
members. I am of a view that it is indispensable to give more time to
law   and thought process as law gives guidelines which in turn leads to
policy framework and implementation.

The present law of 1995 is to be analyzed in line to shortfalls in
implementation and communication which is interpreted differently by
various agencies.

The new law should cover complete life span of PWDS which in turn
divides
into various stages starting from education, right from primary to
professional and I believe a group of qualified and experienced members
should be assigned for each stage .The members have to be meticulous
about each detail gathered by primary and secondary data.

The next stage would be employment, I believe PWD with lot of hardships
get professionally qualified to know no job exist for them or various
hurdles are put in employment.

The last stage covers all benefits to PWDs.

I would like to sum up that as a citizen of India  ,I should not be left
behind in any aspect of life.

Please spare me for any pedestrian comments.

Thank you,

Pankaj Kwatra

   .   .   

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ram
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:23 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] New draft bill for the disabled in rough waters

Dear Harish and other friends of AI family,

Since, I am a member of this family and have learnt a lot from you all
and 
cherished lot of good moments and thoughts and since I am a member of
the 
Committee constituted by the Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment
(MSJ & 
E) to draft a new act to replace the PWD act, in consonance and harmony
with 
the provisions of UNCRPD, I felt that I should share the happenings in
the 
above committee.  I don't want to enter in to any controversy and I
don't 
belong to any group, except being the Secretary General of NAB (India)
and 
myself, visually challenged.

The committee was constituted by the ministry in April with the above 
mandate, but was expanded with more disabled members, as many persons
and 
NGOs insisted that the committee should have more representation
disabled 
members. For example, Mr. Kaul of AICB met the minister and requested
him to 
have at least one of the chiefs of the three national level blindness 
institutions, to be included. He, in fact,strongly suggested my name. A 
common letter from NFB, AICB and NAB (India), signed by Mr. Santosh
Rungta, 
Mr. J. L. Kaul and myself, in this regard was submitted to the ministry
and 
I was included accordingly in June 2010. I wish to clarify this, as some

others were trying to take credit for this, as if they had done me some 
favor. You all know that I am least interested in any position and
glory, 
but will do anything possible to benefit Visually challenged.

The committee was decomposed in to many smaller groups to focus on
specific 
topics and later, the entire committee will look at all the provisions
of 
various groups. I was involved in employment, Social security and now in

Financials.

The groups met among themselves in July and August, met the legal
consultant 
in turn, to discuss the legality of various suggestions and finished
their 
work, sometime in September 2010 and this was discussed at NALSAR in 
details.

Please note that, when the committee met the civil society for the first

time, the members of various groups, actually had not gone through the 
entire act and therefore, couldn't explain or defend the same. While, I 
strongly felt that the committee should finish its mandate and then the 
entire act should be discussed in the full committee and then we should
face 
the civil society, though some other members felt that the civil society

should be asked to give its comments. In anycase, we went to the civil 
society consultations.

During the consultations, many members made very concrete suggestions,
but I 
felt that we should have taken a little more time in studying and 
understanding the entire act and then interact with the civil society,
so 
that the interaction would have been more meaningful and some of the
members 
of the civil society wouldn't have got the feeling that the committee is
not 
unanimous on its views.

It was agreed that the legal consultants will work on the draft and the
same 
would be discussed in the full committee meeting on 26 and 27 November,
2010 
and it will be notified in the end of November, which will followed by
civil 
society consultations on 

Re: [AI] New Disability Law

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Friends,

I have a request, could we extract topics from draft of new disability
law and discuss on AI list as we have persons with expertise on this
list. I believe many of us have given our comments on AI blog , but
interpretation
Of law can be totally different and network firewall plays it part in
inaccessibility of various links.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra
  .  .  



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:47 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] New Disability Law

Received the following email from the Chairperson of the Committee. 

Dear Friends
All good wishes for 2011! 
There has been a great deal of debate amongst some of you in the
disability sector about the mandate of the Committee.The Committee has
been asked to do a particular task by the Ministry, and we are only
intent on completing it to the best of our ability.  The mandate of the
Committee is only to replace the existing PWD Act and bring it in in
harmonisation with the CRPD. 
The Committee has recommended to the Ministry that other legislations
have also to be brought in consonance with the CRPD.  In what sequence
the process of amendment/ harmonization is to happen is not for this
Committee but the Ministry to decide. 
The Committee has been given an extension till 31st March to complete it
work. The proposed National and State Level consultations will take
place within February followed by consultations with a legal panel. The
State level Consultations will be done through the National Trust SNAC
Centres/ Disability Commissioners offices in partnership with a State
level DPO/NGO who will be invited to the National consultation. The
dates will be communicated to all of you as soon as they are finalised.

Any query beyond the mandate given to the Committee should be directed
to the Ministry.
Please send your suggestions on the present working draft directly to me
and I will ensure that the Committee  discusses these and gives a
feedback to you.
I would request all of you to be part of this proactive process.
With warm wishes
Sudha 

PS May I request you to pass on this email to others in sector who are
interested in being part of this important process.

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Re: [AI] IT companies urged to employ persons with disabilities

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

It starts right from there, need to change attitude and mind set of
people towards disabled , no harm in CSR and allowances or benefits as a
right, words does not make any difference as long as opportunity is
offered. Big country , some people can fight for rights , some cannot as
they come from different sections of society with different attributes.
i.e. poor/rich , educated/ illiterate etc .

Let's keep on doing good.

Thank you,

Pankaj Kwatra
   

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranay
Gadodia
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 12:23 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] IT companies urged to employ persons with disabilities

Hi,
The below news item says "Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa has called
upon Information Technology (IT) companies to provide employment to
persons with disabilities as part of their corporate social
responsibility."

>From the head of a state, should not we expect the paradigm shift in his
approach at disability, to look at skilled PwDs as potential workforce
which too can meet industry's requirements, instead of thinking to
recruit them as a "social" responsibility.

Sometimes I feel it should be advocated that the word disability should
be replaced with impairment. Word 'Impairment' neutrally indicates only
the not normal function at sensory or physical level, and does not
presume anything about the abilities of the person. 
Similary in Hindi the word 'Viklaang' to my mind is more objective than
the word 'Nishakt'.

Changing the nomenclature which objectively defines the state also is
important to bring a change in how the world thinks about the state.

regards,

Pranay.

- Original Message - From: "pradeep banakar"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:23 PM
Subject: [AI] IT companies urged to employ persons with disabilities


http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/article107
9312.ece

The Hindu
BANGALORE, January 11, 2011 IT companies urged to employ persons with
disabilities
Special Correspondent
Literate persons can be employed in BPOs, ITES, says Yeddyurappa


Calling for change: Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa, Higher Education
Minister V.S. Acharya, educationist M.K. Sridhar and sportsperson
Malathi Holla inaugurate the national conference on 'IT for persons
with disabilities' in Bangalore on Monday. - Photo: K. Gopinathan
Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa has called upon Information Technology
(IT) companies to provide employment to persons with disabilities as
part of their corporate social responsibility.

Speaking at the inaugural function of the national conference on 'IT
for persons with disabilities', organised by the Department of
Information Technology, Biotechnology, and Science & Technology, here
on Monday, Mr. Yeddyurappa said that the law mandated reservation of 3
per cent jobs in the Government sector for persons with disabilities.
Though no such provision existed in the private sector, the IT sector
was capable of providing employment to persons with disabilities who
were literate, he said.

Fifty-two per cent of persons with disabilities were literate,
according to the 2001 Census. The IT sector could fruitfully employ
such persons in Business Process Outsourcing units (BPO), Information
Technology Enabled Services (ITES) and for software development and
technical writing.

He cited the example of companies such as IBM, Wipro and Microsoft,
which were employing persons with disabilities.

Of the 7 lakh jobs expected to be created as part of the deals signed
during the recent Global Investors Meet in Bangalore, as many as 3
lakh were in the IT sector.

Mr. Yeddyurappa expressed optimism over the creation of another 4
million jobs through the proposed Information Technology Investment
Region (ITIR) near Devanahalli.

He also called upon IT companies to make their workplaces
disabled-friendly.

Higher Education Minister V.S. Acharya, who also holds additional
charge of IT and BT Department, lamented that precious little had been
done for the benefit of persons with disabilities.

Neither had they been provided job opportunities nor had a
"barrier-free" environment been created for their benefit, he said.

He reiterated the Chief Minister's appeal to the private sector to
provide employment to persons with disabilities.

Executive Director of Karnataka Knowledge Commission M.K. Sridhar, who
delivered the keynote address, emphasised the need for companies which
employed persons with disabilities not to view the gesture as
"charity" but as their "right".

Out of the 600 million disabled persons worldwide, as much as 80 per
cent lived in developing countries, he said.

Website launched

Earlier, Mr. Acharya launched a website, www.itforpwd.com, which seeks
to provide

Re: [AI] FW: one law versus common law width other specific laws

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

I will go for multiple law rather than one law reason stated below:

1.Multiple law will cover specific needs for example a blind person will
have different requirements for education, employment and other benefits
as compared to any other PWD.
2.Common law can never cover all types of disability, all of which face
absolutely different challenges in persuing life.

3. Multiple law will make easier for all government authorities to act
swiftly and correctly and it will benefit judiciary for decision making
.

4.Favouring less disabled will be checked- referring to percentage of
disability. I believe education, jobs and facilities differ in this
sector as per convenience of agency.

The whole purpose of law should be to cover specific needs of non
homogenous group and no section in PWD should be left behind , as
specific caste also fights for reservation- referring to latest
agitation in one of the state.

I will come up with more feedback.

Thank you,

Pankaj Kwatra
  


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:27 AM
To: 'AccessIndia@accessindia.org.in'
Subject: [AI] FW: one law versus common law widh other specific laws


Hello
This is a forward on request of the sender.
Harish Kotian.

-Original Message-
From: dr.rj...@gmail.com [mailto:dr.rj...@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 January 2011 01:16
To: Kotian, H P; prasannapin...@gmail.com
Subject: one law versus common law widh other specific laws

dear harish, kindly circulate my mail on access india on the
above subject as under:
it is indeed a matter of great concern that the intellectual
classes have divided opinion on the subject at a moment which is
very crucial as the authorities may take advantage of our
fragmented views on having a single law or common law with
specific laws to address the needs of various classes of
disability.  my argument are as under:
1.
has the existence of national trust act and RCI act together with
PWD act created any division among the persons with disability?
have the different acts for SC and ST created any division
amongst any of the classes of society? as a matter of fact, we
must understand that as we go down the hierarchy of
"commonalities" more and more acts would be required.  each act
addresses the common objects.  for example, if we go by the
theory of one act, it is self-contradictory as there exists the
Constitution of India which, through its various articles,
addresses the common goals of equality etc.  advocacy of one law
is like having a hand without fingers and thumb.  division in the
disability sector would come not by having multi-acts but by
giving more advantages to one group than the rest.  as a matter
of fact, having separate acts for specific needs will give more
power to the concerned group to put forth his views before the
government and society.  how can one think of achieving, for
example, the objectives of RCI under the one-act theory!
 2.  i think the concept of single-window sollution is like
shopping in a mall where you collect items and wait in a long
queue for billing.  there also, you need to pay for some
important items on the counter itself from where you pick them,
say, jewellery, food items, and so on.  having multi-law system
would accomodate specific needs of PWDS and monitoring mechanism
would function with enhanced perfection if it has to concentrate
on parts rather than the whole.
3.  have the implementation of SC and ST act, at and even PWD act
at all increased the stigma or have these acts at all isolated
these classes from the society! as a matter of fact, the
implementation of all these acts have brought these specific
classes into the mainstream.  having specific law to address the
specific needs of a particular disability actually increases the
awareness of hurdles as well as achievements of that specific
class.  stigma of being a disabled, or coming from the SC ST
classes can be removed only by way of education and increased
awareness.
4.  having a user-friendly common law for all kinds of disability
will undoubtedly lead to enormous confusion.  no PWD will be able
to find the correct provisions for his disability specific needs.
of course, common issues must be addressed by one law but there
must be specific laws for specific needs.  you cannot use one
tool to build a house! having one act will become a weapon in the
hands of government to dislocate the cause of disabled rather
than empowering them.
5.  so far as having an equality law like UK is concerned, mr.
pincha has rightly drawn attention to other disability specific
laws of great britain.  I would like to add: wasn't UN charter
enough to address the cause of humanity, why has it come up with
so many conventions including UNCRPAID.  why are we at all
talking about harmonising our PWD act with UNCRPAID!
6.  having one law is l

Re: [AI] Need your advice.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Friend,

I would recommend M.B.A regular or correspondence would be good with
specialization in H.R as this functional area have more opportunity.
Computer knowledge is always additional advantage .

The above suggestion is purely on experience as I am also M.B.A with
information systems and marketing as specialization but none supported
in job specially for VI.

Thank you,

Pankaj Kwatra
 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sumesh
Surendran
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:13 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Need your advice.

Dear all,
I am asking this doubt for one of my friend. He is partially sighted
and is having his graduation in Business Administration(B B A). He
also has a good foundation in the field of computer.

Currently he is planning to join correspondance M B A-Information
System in Bharathiar University. It is the time to apply for the next
batch of the course in this university. So before joining the course
he is interested to have the advise from the effecient and experienced
members of Access India.

He want to know the value of the course as a career option. Also he
want to know what are the jobs he can apply after the successful
completion of the course.
Following are the topics come in this course.


First Year

 1.1Principles of Management and Organisational Behaviour
 1.2Managerial Economics
 1.3Accounting and Finance for Managers 
 1.4Marketing Management
 1.5Human Resource Management   
 1.6Quantitative Techniques for Management  
 1.7Research Methods for Management 

Second Year
 2.1Software Project Management
 2.2Database Management Systems
 2.3Information Technology Applications
 2.4E-Commerce
 2.5Enterprise Resource Planning
 2.6Data Mining and Data Warehousing
 2.7Knowledge Management and Information Systems Security, Control
and Audit
 2.8Project Work
Waiting for the valuable advice of you,
With lots of thanks and regards,
Sumesh K S
E-mail: sumeshraja...@gmail.com
mob:09747092956

Re: [AI] Need your advice.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Ajay,

I have more than ten years of experience in private sector. Industry
includes retailing, software development and BPO, you can write me off
list for any guidance.

Regards,

Pankaj Kwatra

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ajay
Minocha
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:41 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Need your advice.

Pankaj ji
can you please tell me about your job in detail
because I am also planning to do MBA
after my greduation
with best regards

On 1/20/11, Pankaj Kwatra  wrote:
> Hello Friend,
>
> I would recommend M.B.A regular or correspondence would be good with
> specialization in H.R as this functional area have more opportunity.
> Computer knowledge is always additional advantage .
>
> The above suggestion is purely on experience as I am also M.B.A with
> information systems and marketing as specialization but none supported
> in job specially for VI.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Pankaj Kwatra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sumesh
> Surendran
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:13 PM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] Need your advice.
>
> Dear all,
> I am asking this doubt for one of my friend. He is partially sighted
> and is having his graduation in Business Administration(B B A). He
> also has a good foundation in the field of computer.
>
> Currently he is planning to join correspondance M B A-Information
> System in Bharathiar University. It is the time to apply for the next
> batch of the course in this university. So before joining the course
> he is interested to have the advise from the effecient and experienced
> members of Access India.
>
> He want to know the value of the course as a career option. Also he
> want to know what are the jobs he can apply after the successful
> completion of the course.
> Following are the topics come in this course.
>
>
> First Year
>
>  1.1  Principles of Management and Organisational Behaviour
>  1.2  Managerial Economics
>  1.3  Accounting and Finance for Managers 
>  1.4  Marketing Management
>  1.5  Human Resource Management   
>  1.6  Quantitative Techniques for Management  
>  1.7  Research Methods for Management 
>
> Second Year
>  2.1  Software Project Management
>  2.2  Database Management Systems
>  2.3  Information Technology Applications
>  2.4  E-Commerce
>  2.5  Enterprise Resource Planning
>  2.6  Data Mining and Data Warehousing
>  2.7  Knowledge Management and Information Systems Security, Control
> and Audit
>  2.8  Project Work
> Waiting for the valuable advice of you,
> With lots of thanks and regards,
> Sumesh K S
> E-mail: sumeshraja...@gmail.com
> mob:09747092956
>
>
>


-- 
Ajay Minocha
Mob : +91 - 7 8 2 7 1 8 8 4 5 5
E mail : ajayminocha2...@rediffmail.com
ajaymanu...@gmail.com

Re: [AI] [Arkitect India] Responding to challenged people's needs.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

I am not in favor of austere comments and preposterous comparisons but
we have right to freedom of speech and expressions in our country. We
have a mechanism or system of talking about opulent society but weaker
and less privileged sections are left behind. The nation cannot build
with fraction of people , it will have to carry all sections of society
along leading to inclusive growth.

Please come out of stigma and prejudices of huge cost as disabled
without much support have come so far so to be recognized. We are
talking about E-learning , education and technology not specially
designed for PWD but still they have managed to break the shell and use
it efficiently.

Let's keep on doing good.

Regards,

Pankaj Kwatra[ Different Pankaj,mind you] 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Gupta
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 PM
To: arkitectin...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] [Arkitect India] Responding to challenged people's
needs.

I take serious objections to Pankaj's irresponsible statements. The
arguments made by Rama (Prof. Agnihotri) and George are no doubt very
important and concrete. However, let me raise a completely different
point, particularly because Pankaj has the general habit of beating
the same drum with the same stick every time: money, money and money!
Therefore, even the initial argument I am going to make is a
utilitarian one, because it may serve at least the purpose of the
present debate. Let me ask Pankaj, what is the alternative? Whether
our 'poor' nation would then continue to feed (or not feed) ten
percent of the total population as a liability? If they are not given
education, surely they would remain a liability as beggars on the
street. Would that be economically, socially, politically and
ethically a viable alternative? Or that you would like to suggest the
total extermination of such people following the lines of Hitler's
regime?
Surely, there are ways where only sensitivity, and not extra money,
can make infrastructure disabled friendly, Rama has already given the
example of strait paths. Further, what extra cost you need to create
ramps instead of the conventional staircases?
Further, developments for disabled may also be beneficial for others
as well. For example, if you decide to switch over (as part of a
long-term policy) to e-text of books, articles and newspapers, it will
save environment. At the same time would enable the visually impaired
in particular and other disableds in general to enjoy the fruits of
this literary and knowledge production at par with others. It is also
an attractive facility for even the normative persons, who are behind
the creation of e-libraries. Is it than costlier than environment?
Still, it is true that there may be requirements which ask for extra
money, but there are two important issues to remember here. First,
this is an investment. George has already given examples of the
contribution of disabled in the mainstream and we can multiply it many
times. Let us not forget the fact that even the technique of concrete
roads, (an essential requirement of progress in the modern era was
developed by a blind engineer. Moreover, teachers like me (himself
disabled) have been teaching the non-disabled students. Pankaj,
Britain has witnessed a blind even in the role of the minister for
education.
Second, disability is more than a mere natural deficiency. People like
Pankaj, so called normative human beings have design the world
according to their own requirements. Hence it is not our fault and
therefore we will no longer pay for it. Who asked you to base your
education on the written word? If this would have been different,
surely blind and hearing impaired would have more easily made their
way.
Let me also share with Pankaj and his like-minded people that due to
improvements in medical science (which can now save people from great
injuries and accidents, but very often such survivors become disable),
the number of disabled is rising across the globe. What will be your
strategy then? Let us not forget that every human body is only
temporarily able and it can acquire disability any time. Moreover,
Pankaj, you are also missing the triangular connection between
poverty, disability and education. Further, if concern for disabled is
a special interest as you have suggested, then one should ask why the
concern for poor is not so?
I no that you would remain firm in your characteristic insensitivity,
because it is not the power of logic, which changes mindset, rather it
is faith, trust and compassion, which is required to understand the
pain of others. Moreover, any text is open for different
interpretations. Therefore, you would be able to still find some
economist arguments to counter what all is written here. However,
education is our equal fundamental right wi

Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Responders,

The need is to collect actual and correct data which I believe will help
in policy formulation rather then any use for us. 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of amarnath de
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:35 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?

If UID cannot serve our purpose then what is the need of it? The
government 
is misusing our income and giving our earned money to its agency and 
generating income for some persons for meaningless purpose. It is making
the 
system more complex rather than simplifying.

It is unnecessarily putting burden to us.

Hope, government may use the database to make our life simple as
suggested.

Amarnath.
--
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:14 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?

> So, am I correct that UID is hardly anything more than an additional
wrung 
> of formalities to be completed to obtain various services in India?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohammed
Asif 
> iqbal
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:28 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
>
> Sorry for delay in replying.
> Please understand that UIDAI is not issuing card rather it is just 
> issueing
> letter which contains number.  However bottom portion of the letter
can be
> torn and stored for remembering the numbers.  State government is free
to
> issue card that is if it serve their purpose.
> Please also understand that UIDAI is not superceeding ministery and it
has
> to work with existing ministry hence it is not collecting data on
cast/
> community/ religion/. SC/ST/ OBC/ disability as well as it is not 
> empowered
> to verify whether one is able/ disabled.
> Thanks and hope this clearifies.
> Asif
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of SC
Vashishth
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:34 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
>
> Dear Harish,
>
> Sadly that is not so. Its not only "for the disabled" but of the
disabled
> also wanting this. The degree of social acceptance of different 
> disabilities
> is different and this is a harsh truth. While those with visual 
> impairments
> may be keen in getting their disability included on UID but those with
few
> other disabilities have not been comfortable in declaring the same on
the
> face of it for the fear of discrimination and other obvious reasons.
>
> Another reason that I see is that not all disabilities enumerated in
the 
> PWD
> Act have got benefited from being declared as  a Person with
disability
> except few. Thus for them, including it on the UID carries no benefit.
On
> the contrary, they fear this might lead to discrimination.
>
> May be UID representatives/Mr. Asif could answer the specific reason
as to
> why this was dropped and what can be done to salvage it  at least for 
> those
> who are willing and want to include this.
> regards
>
>
> 29 January 2011 11:14, Harish Kotian 
wrote:
>
>> Dear Vashisht
>>
>> In my opinion, it will be those "for the disabled" who would be
opposing
>> inclusion of disability  in the UI Card. For, the disabled themselves
>> understand the hassel  of carrying  a bag full of ID cards for proof
of
>> disability.
>>
>> More importantly, this could have been the perfect answer for getting
>> access to copyright material internationally and obtaining immunity
from
>> fair use clause.
>>
>> I think we must do everything possible to resalvage it if possible to
do
>> so.
>>
>>  If one chooses not to disclose this information to the UI authority
that
>> should be fine, later, they should not cry for not having done so.
Just
>> because of a handful of persons, we cannot throw out a system which
would
>> help majority of persons.
>>
>> Harish Kotian.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "SC Vashishth" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
>>
>>
>> > Rajesh, a large number of persons with disabilities do not want
their
>> > disability on their UID Cards. They want to be known by their name
and
>> > number and not by their disability. Argument - when you don't write
>> > conditions such as Heart Problems, Knee Problems etc or
>> > Castes/categories such as  SC/ST, then why disability which is just
a
>> > condition that persons live with.
>> >
>> > This debate perhaps has led to UID dropping disability from the
face of
>> the
>> > card.
>> >
>> > Another issue - UID's legal mandate doesn't require it to be a 
>> > replacing
>> > document

Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

My suggestion is to give disability, a code instead of writing in words
but it should be mentioned on UID , otherwise it will be just another
common ID  . 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Renuka
Warriar
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:06 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?

Hi,
I think , including disability in the uid can be made optional so that
those 
who want to disclose their disability can include it and those who want
to 
hide it will also be happy
Renuka E,
Section Officer,
ICT Centre for Visually Challlenged,
CHMK Library,
University ofCalicut,
Malappuram Dist.,
Kerala.
- Original Message - 
From: "Vikas Gupta" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?


> Dear Subhashji and others,
> I have been struggling with this issue. I have no clear answer. I
> simply want to briefly present a senario. It is although true that in
> some cases, if we disclose our identity in advance, then we can expect
> some arrangements for us before we reach at that place. However, a
> contrary fact is that in India as well as outside, many times it had
> happened with me that I could make my way in the mainstream without
> declaring my disability. Thanks to for example internet communication
> in some cases and due to the norm of confidentiality in others. I was
> selected for various things based on my performance. Therefore, in
> such cases, generally what happens is that people come to know about
> my disability not before I have established my credencials. When they
> come to know about it, then some times they are amused to find a
> visually impaired in that role, which would lead to quite a lot of
> admiration for me by them. Whilst at some other occasions, I have
> realized that as soon as they come to know about my disability, they
> start showing biased attitude. (I have skipped examples, because I am
> in a hurry.) However, as you can see, in both kinds of cases, mention
> of my disability has created difference in the attitude of others
> towards me. I am not saying that because of this reason, we should or
> we can hide our disability. However, the concern is somewhat
> different. I am worried that the centralized storage of data and an
> increasingly mendatory situation of its demonstration should not lead
> to a situation where it becomes for an individual disabled to apply
> his mind and decide where it is favorable or dangerous to mention
> his/her disability in a world which is surely full of biased atitudes.
>
>
>
> On 1/30/11, Srinivasu Chakravarthula  wrote:
>> I to agree. Including disability in UI would enable us to carry just
one
>> card.
>>
>> On 1/30/11, Dr. mittal  wrote:
>>> I too strongly support to launch such a campaign as it will help all
>>> persons
>>> with disabilities to be free from all hastles of carrying disability
>>> certificate.
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards Prof. Mittal.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
amarnath de
>>> Sent: 29 January 2011 20:29
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
>>>
>>> Dear Harish,
>>>
>>> I also support of inclusion of disability to UI card.
>>>
>>> Because, I think if I have an UI card I need not to carry
handicapped
>>> certificate or any kind of concession forms (including Railway 
>>> concession
>>> form) to claim concessions in future.
>>>
>>> Can accessindia launch a campaign in this direction?
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Yours sincerely,
>>> Amarnath De.
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Harish Kotian" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:14 AM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
>>>
 Dear Vashisht

 In my opinion, it will be those "for the disabled" who would be
 opposing inclusion of disability  in the UI Card. For, the disabled
 themselves understand the hassel  of carrying  a bag full of ID
cards
 for proof of disability.

 More importantly, this could have been the perfect answer for
getting
 access to copyright material internationally and obtaining immunity
 from fair use clause.

 I think we must do everything possible to resalvage it if possible
to
 do so.

 If one chooses not to disclose this information to the UI authority
 that should be fine, later, they should not cry for not having done
 so. Just because of a handful of persons, we cannot throw out a
system
 which would help majority of persons.

 Harish Kotian.

 - Original Message -
 From: "SC Vashishth" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] UID number an

Re: [AI] Blind man drives car independently

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Driving in India, I only think of juggling, snakes and ladder,
criss-crossing, even four eyes does not help and the moment you think of
reaching home safely, somebody will come and bang you so enjoy driving
in city. 

I really appreciate the idea of blind person driving- just to show the
capability and courage to the world

Cheers,

PK.

 .  

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dr. Mittal
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:03 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind man drives car independently

True I fully agree. 
Prof. Mittal. 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: 03 February 2011 10:24
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind man drives car independently

Yu are right about compensation to blind pedestrian  victim of an
accident
being paid by vehicle insurers, though I foresee the plea of
contributory
negligence or outright victim's fault being raised in motor vehicles
tribunals to minimize insurer's liability in such scenario as well.
 It will surely be paid nonetheless.

However, I think Namdev was referring to accident benefit by LIC, and it
is
the unwritten but on the ground position that LIC does not give accident
rider to blind.

On the main issue of mail i.e. driving non visually, I am not still
convinced that it can be effectively done  in India in our lifetime


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Harish
Kotian
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:11 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind man drives car independently

Dear Rajesh

Here we are not explicitly talking about Life Insurance with higher
benefits. This may have accident cover or not. It is optional and need
to be
worked out between the 2 parties. Those give you additional benefits. We
are
I suppose touching on the basic cover.

In case of vehicle accident, the insurance company of the vehicle pays
thecompensation to the victim's family.

I don't think in this situation, the insurance company can deny
compensation
to a blind pedestrian.

What is the position on this matter?

Harish Kotian.

- Original Message -
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind man drives car independently


I am afraid Namdev is right
LIC always refused to afford accident rider to insurance policies of a
VI.
Accident rider involves paying some minimal extra amount and getting
double
the ensured amount in case of accidental death.
However, this was explicitly denied to VI policy holders despite
communications from LIC chief about no discrimination in insurance to
VI.
Namdev has put it into past, but I think at present also, this is the
situation.
It is purely arbitrary and not explicitly sanctioned as no insurance
agent
shows the relevant documents ever.
My brother-in-law however got accident coverage at his demise as they
did
not bother to enquire whether policy holder was blind.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:42 AM
To: 'AccessIndia@accessindia.org.in'
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind man drives car independently

My Dear Namdeo

For heaven's sake please don't give credence to a myth. We already are
paying a dear price to someone's whims and fancies already and don't
desire
to have some more.

I am pretty sure your assertion that if a blind pedestrian is killed by
a
road accident his family member are not eligible for compensation is
incorrect. Legal experts please throw light. In case this is indeed a
harsh
reality, then we should not be a sitting duck.

Basking on a myth that in the western world, blind persons and disabled
are
not tormented by foolish prejudices is regrettably far from  reality.

Please don't think for a moment that it was a cake walk to obtain this
permission. They have worked pretty hard for it and I would consider
designing this marvel car would be a smaller challenge compared to
convincing the folks at helm of affairs. It requires tremendous grit and
determination to see it right through.

I guess, in our own life time we shall get an opportunity to ride in our
country as well. Now a days, it does not take too much time for goodies
to
be enjoyed across all boundaries.

Even in US it is still a concept vehicle and it would take many years to
hit
the road.
Harish Kotian.

From: "namdeo2000" 
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind man drives car independently

It is quite an encouraging scenario for American blind community and
even
for Western world for that matter, but, it is a distant dream for same
community in this country. As and when the technology 

Re: [AI] MBA 2 year and 3 year degree

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Friend,

I believe you need to have degree instead of diploma which is usually
given for 2 year correspondence but for degree, you require 3 years.
Please check with your existing diploma university .

Thank you,

PK 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sandeep
Gautam
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:43 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] MBA 2 year and 3 year degree

Hi G. Vamshi

I presume mistake is mine, I didn't give complete information to list.
actually, I am already in job with NTPC Ltd.
according to our company policy, we can be benefited with our fast track

career promotion opportunity only if employees have done 2 year regular
or 3 
year correspondance MBA.
because now, I am in job, there is no point to do regular course.
I am sure, Its clear now why I want to upgrade my 2 year MbA to 3 year.
now, if there is any suggestion from list, then please.

Sandeep G
- Original Message - 
From: "Vamshi. G" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] MBA 2 year and 3 year degree


> Hi Sandeep,
>
> May I know why do you want to have a 3 year MBA degree?  When I had to
> do MBA through distance learning, I choose University of Madras just
> because it offered 2 year MBA degree.  I don't know what you would
> achieve with the additional one year.
>
> In fact, I recommend doing some other certificate course which would
> increase job opportunities.  Do revert if you want further information
> on this.
>
> -- 
> G. Vamshi
> PH Res : +91 877-2243861
> Mobile: +91 9949349497
> E-mail ID:
> gvamsh...@gmail.com
> Skype: gvamshi81
>
> www.retinaindia.org
> From darkness unto light
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/3/11, Sandeep Gautam  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I have already done MbA (HR) distant learning, two-year PG degree 
>> (semester
>> based system).
>> Is there any UGC recognised university which can facilitate me by 
>> upgrading
>> my already two year degree to three year MBA degree after studying
one 
>> year
>> (distant learning) in their university?
>>
>> kindly share information on the issue or tell some forum where I can
>> enlighten myself more on this topic.
>>
>> Sandeep G
>>
> 

Re: [AI] Congratulations to Sameer Latye

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hey Sameer,

Congrats , where is the party

With Regards,

Pankaj

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 4:59 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Congratulations to Sameer Latye



Dear friends,



We thank you all for your kind wishes & seek your blessings & good
wishes 
for a successful married life.



Regards

Sameer & Jayashree

- Original Message - 
From: "Shyam M. Sayanekar" 
To: "Access India" 
Cc: "Voice Vision. " 
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 11:34 PM
Subject: [AI] Congratulations to Sameer Latye


> Dear members, I am happy to inform you all that one of our members
Sameer 
> Latye got married on 18th of February 2011.  The Marriage was of
Register 
> type and he hosted a grand reception on the 19th of Feb. On behalf of
all 
> the members, I congratulate him and wish him a very successful and 
> fruitful life.
> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
> Telephone: 0251-2438457
> Mobile: +91 9920410788
> Skype ID- sayanekar
> Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability
info!
> Question 9 relates to disability. 


Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability
info!
Question 9 relates to disability.

Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability info!
Question 9 relates to disability.

Re: [AI] Share census experience

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Question - Do you think correct numbers will be highlighted after
census, we are just talking about cities where people are aware and
enumerator are guided but majority of our population live outside
cities.

Regards,

Pankaj Kwatra

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sruti
disAbility Rights Centre
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Share census experience

It is a good idea Srinivasu. We can send it to Registrar General of
India
but also submit copies to Census Offices in our respective states.

One of our volunteers have already started a survey in his college - he
is
asking his classmates whether Question 9 was asked when enumerators
visited
their families. He started this on his own - he was actively helping us
in
awareness campaign on Census and was upset when the question was not
asked
to his mother. Will share this report with you once it is compiled.
Regards
Shampa Sengupta

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Vaishnavi Jayakumar <
jayakumar.vaishn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's a great idea Srinivasu!
>
> --
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:47:22 +0530
> From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in, "Voice Vision."
>   
> Subject: [AI] Share census experience
>
> Hi Friends,
> I have seen several threads on sharing their census experience and I
> thought, it would be nice to put all experiences together and then
share as
> a single PDF documents and arrange to send the same to concerned
> authorities. With that objective, I have created a blog post at
>
>
http://srinivasu.org/blog/2011/02/census-experience-by-people-with-disab
ilities/Please
> join the discussion and once we feel, it's good to share, we can send
> it across to different authorities.
>
> Kanchan, would you figure out who should we share these experiences?
> Thanks,
> -Srinivasu
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
> Mobile: +91 990 081 0881
> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org
> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/VasuTweets
> Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability
info!
> Question 9 relates to disability.
>
Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability
info!
Question 9 relates to disability.

Get numbers right this time, help the census with correct disability info!
Question 9 relates to disability.

Re: [AI] Regarding my new bank account opening with Standardchartedbank...

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Friends,

I told you the problem with banks will never end and talking about
circulars ,there are many which employees forget and VI are discouraged
to avail all facilities. The solution could be VI person going through
NGO to bank for availing everything given to general customer   and
regarding signature on cheques ,it will always be difficult for us, the
solution could be two signatures on cheque where one is signed by
sighted person. To verify. The other person could be joint account
Holder or customer with the bank or a bank employee.

Regards,

Pankaj Kwatra
Mantra- Try most difficult signatures with one or two striking points to
remember and rest should be your artistry where sighted person could
find it difficult to make out corrector incorrect.  

 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:18 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding my new bank account opening with
Standardchartedbank...

Hi Prateek
To my understanding there is one solution of this problem. Once such 
circular is issued by the supreme authority in this case say RBI or IBA,

then all head offices of the bank should put a seal and sign or whatever
to 
show that the circular is being implemented in their bank, and then the 
final copy should be circulated amongst people. The reason for this is
only 
one. Any bank staff demands their own bank's circular. So this can be
one 
good option. Right now every bank issue its own internal circular, copy
of 
which is not available generally. And generally such circulars are not 
updated as per the changed circulars from higher authorities.
So if the bank staff sees the seal, they are satisfied mentally.
Regards
Amar Jain.
-Original Message- 
From: prateek aggarwal
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:31 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding my new bank account opening with
Standardcharted 
bank...

Hi akhil,
I think you no need to apologize for asking this important question.
No matter how many times this question has come on the list and
answered, the unfortunate part is that the same problem keep
persisting again and again with someone or the other amongst us.
Coming to your problem,
Its ridiculous  why these banks makes such specious decisions when it
comes to a visually challenged person.
>From experience I can tell you that its very much possible to open
individual account in any bank, and that too with no special document
or formality.
We have the wonderful RBI circular and IBA guidelines supporting this,
and as you must be knowing, one can obtain all the services of a bank
which are being provided to any other customer.
The said circular and guideline is available on my website for
download.
You might like to visit my website at
www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
or
www.prateekagarwal.tk

One thing that I'd like to advise you in this regard is, please try
talking to bank manager regarding the denial.
Also, show them the circular and if still the problem persists,  ask
the respective authority to give you a written statement about basis
of denial.
We'll see further from there.

A bit away from the context, i'm wondering if something in general can
be done regarding this aggravating problem.
Since we have many NGOs and their representatives on this list, can a
program like this be designed to spread the awareness in bank
employees?

i often believe that the problem is more about lack of awareness then
anything else, and though legal fight is an option, but in my personal
opinion, spreading awareness and changing people's attitude  can prove
more important and handy.

I'll be happy to work in association if some NGOs  are willing to run
such an awareness
campaign.
At least I can try helping in spreading such an awareness in rajasthan.
Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Director,
Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
www.daedaltechnovations.com
we bring the change we wish to see!

Website:
www.prateekagarwal.tk
|
www.prateekagarwal.webs.com


-- Original message --
From: "Akhil" 
To: 
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:13:46 +0530
Subject: [AI] Regarding my new bank account opening with Standard
charted bank...
Hi AccessIndians,

First of all I apologize if this question has been answered.

I want to open a corparate bank account with Standard charted bank and
they are denying to give me a individual account.

Please tell me is it true or we do have any sercular for it...

If yes then I would like to know about it and also if posseble provide
me that document.

Regards

Akhil

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info!
Question 9 relates to disability. 


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Question 9 relates to disability.

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Re: [AI] life and achievements of a grate social work Mother theresa

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello ,

I disagree, very good inspiration from Mother Teresa.

Regards,

Pankaj Kwatra

 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam 
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] life and achievements of a grate social work Mother theresa

With due respect to Mother Teresa, I have to say that what you posted
here is nothing to do with disability.

On 28/02/2011, Nagaraj H  wrote:
> Mother Teresa
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Early life
> 2 Missionaries of Charity
> 3 International charity
> 4 Declining health and death
> 5 Recognition and reception
> 5.1 In India
> 5.2 In the rest of the world
> 6 Spiritual life
> 7 Miracle and beatification
> 8 Legacy and depictions in popular culture
> 8.1 Commemoration
> 8.2 Film and literature
>  Mother teresa was a famous grate recognized social worker of India
> and the world who made a real commitment, determination  contribution
> for community-social development.
> Mother Teresa of Calcutta
>
> Religion Catholic
> Order Missionaries of Charity
> Personal
> Nationality Albanian, Indian
> Born Agnes Gonxhe Bojaxhiu
> August 26, 1910(1910-08-26)
> Üsküb, Vilayet of Kosovo, Ottoman Empire (today's Skopje, Republic of
> Macedonia)
> Died September 5, 1997(1997-09-05) (aged 87)
> Calcutta, India
> Senior posting
> Title Superior General
> Period in office 1950–1997
> Successor Nirmala Joshi
> Mother Teresa (26 August 1910 – 5 September 1997), born Agnes Gonxha
> Bojaxhiu[1] (pronounced [aɡˈnɛs ˈɡɔndʒa bɔjaˈdʒiu]), was a Catholic
> nun of Albanian[2][3] ethnicity and Indian citizenship,[4] who founded
> the Missionaries of Charity in Calcutta, India in 1950. For over 45
> years she ministered to the poor, sick, orphaned, and dying, while
> guiding the Missionaries of Charity's expansion, first throughout
> India and then in other countries. Following her death she was
> beatified by Pope John Paul II and given the title Blessed Teresa of
> Calcutta.[5][6]
>
> By the 1970s, she was internationally famed as a humanitarian and
> advocate for the poor and helpless, due in part to a documentary and
> book Something Beautiful for God by Malcolm Muggeridge. She won the
> Nobel Peace Prize in 1979 and India's highest civilian honour, the
> Bharat Ratna, in 1980 for her humanitarian work. Mother Teresa's
> Missionaries of Charity continued to expand, and at the time of her
> death it was operating 610 missions in 123 countries, including
> hospices and homes for people with HIV/AIDS, leprosy and tuberculosis,
> soup kitchens, children's and family counselling programs, orphanages,
> and schools.
>
> She has been praised by many individuals, governments and
> organizations; however, she has also faced a diverse range of
> criticism. These include objections by various individuals and groups,
> including Christopher Hitchens, Michael Parenti, Aroup Chatterjee,
> Vishva Hindu Parishad, against the proselytizing focus of her work
> including a strong stance against contraception and abortion, a belief
> in the spiritual goodness of poverty and alleged baptisms of the
> dying[citation needed]. Medical journals also criticised the standard
> of medical care in her hospices and concerns were raised about the
> opaque nature in which donated money was spent[citation needed]. In
> 2010 on the 100th anniversary of her birth, she was honoured around
> the world, and her work praised by Indian President Pratibha Patil.[7]
>
>
> Early life
>
> Memorial House of Mother Teresa, in native Skopje.Part of a series on
> Christianity
> in India
>
> Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu (gonxha meaning "rosebud" or "little flower" in
> Albanian) was born on 26 August 1910, in Üsküb, Ottoman Empire (now
> Skopje, capital of the Republic of Macedonia). Although she was born
> on 26 August, she considered 27 August, the day she was baptized, to
> be her "true birthday."[8] She was the youngest of the children of a
> family from Shkodër, Albania, born to Nikollë and Drana Bojaxhiu.[9]
> Her father, who was involved in Albanian politics, died in 1919 when
> she was eight years old.[10] After her father's death, her mother
> raised her as a Roman Catholic. Her father, Nikollë Bojaxhiu (his name
> means 'painter') was of Kosovar Albanian origin possibly stemming from
> Prizren, Kosovo while her mother's origin was possibly from a village
> near Đakovica, Kosovo.[11]
>
> According to a biography by Joan Graff Clucas, in her early years
> Agnes was fascinated by stories of the lives of missionaries and their
> service in Benga

Re: [AI] Induction of Visually impaired in to IAS

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Absolutely correct, till change happens, no matter how much time it
takes,need to fight the system and people with closed mind, irony of our
system is going to court is the solution, need more advocates and last
but not least ,get correct law in place.

Regards,

Pankaj Kwatra 

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Abraham
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Induction of Visually impaired in to IAS

Till change happens!
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From: "VIVEK KAVYA" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Induction of Visually impaired in to IAS


> On 3/6/11, neelima kumari  wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Hope all is well.
>>
>> How many time  we show the documentary file or demonstration in front
>> of Government?
>>
>> Looking for your reply.
>>
>> Take great of your health.
>>
>> God examine those whom loves he the most.
>>
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> Regarding the subject I have a very good experience, on 3rd December
> 2009 on behalf of NFB Delhi some of my friends working as
> stenographers in Central Government Ofices in Delhi and my self had
> done demonstration of Visually Impaired persons can easily operate
> computer in fron of Secretary, Ministry of Social Justice &
> Empowerment, Secretary Ministry of Railways, Secretary Ministry of
> Home Affairs and Secretary Ministry of Finance on onnasion of Disabled
> Day, but till today very few VH employees working in Government of
> India Offices and Delhi Government Offices are working on Computers
> and among those one or two are working on original Screen reading
> software many of them are using crack version.  This thing I am
> writing to Access India very sadly I request the Modarator not to be
> angry that I used word CRACK in my mail, this is the true fact.  Many
> of my VH friends working in Ministry of Home and Ministry of Finance
> have not been issued computers this is a very bad thing so we all
> should take some necessary action in this regard.  By Vivekananda, New
> Delhi.n
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Re: [AI] Fwd: CONVENOR, DISABLED RIGHTS GROUP, JAVED ABIDI'S REACTION TO THE UNION BUDGET AND AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE HON'BLE PRIME MINISTER

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Lets hope so as government is hovering around 9 per cent growth and is
focused on stimulus to economy ,probably we should come back after few
years or contact Mr. Rahul Gandhi.

Regards,

Pankaj Kwatra

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
Chakravarthula
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 2:48 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Fwd: CONVENOR, DISABLED RIGHTS GROUP, JAVED ABIDI'S
REACTION TO THE UNION BUDGET AND AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE HON'BLE PRIME
MINISTER

Dear Access Indians,
Just thought of sharing. Hope there will be a good response from the
Government.

Thanks,
-Srinivasu

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From: Secretariat - NCPEDP 
Date: Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Subject: CONVENOR, DISABLED RIGHTS GROUP, JAVED ABIDI'S REACTION TO THE
UNION BUDGET AND AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE HON'BLE PRIME MINISTER
To: sriniv...@srinivasu.org


 Dear Srinivasu,

Reference your E-mail requesting a copy of the letter sent by Mr. Abidi
to
the Prime Minister. Please find below the same in an E-mail format. Do
let
me know, if this is okay.

Best,

Dorodi

National Centre for Promotion of Employment for Disabled People (NCPEDP)
A -77, South Extension Part II
New Delhi - 110 049, India
Tel.: 91-11-26265647 / 26265648
Telefax:011-26265649
Websites: www.ncpedp.org and www.dnis.org




*URGENT ATTENTION: HON'BLE PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA, DR. MANMOHAN SINGH
*

*Respected Sir,*
**

*The Union Budget was a huge disappointment for us, the 70 million
disabled
citizens of India.* And for not one but several reasons:



*1: Year 2011-2012 will be the last year of the current XIth Five Year
Plan.
We had sincerely hoped that funds would be earmarked for the National
Institute of Universal Design.* In the last Budget, funds were
sanctioned
for the Sign Language Research and Training Centre but this had got left
out. We were told that this was due to the lack of resources and we were
promised that "next year" and before the XIth Plan runs out, this
Institute
will also be sanctioned.



The Disability Act has been there for the last 15 years but the less
said
about accessibility the better. 98% of the constructions (post 1995) are
built in an inaccessible manner. Even the 2% which are supposed to be
accessible are not so due to the lack of awareness and expertise.



When I had served on the Steering Committee of the Planning Commission
to
draft the disability component of the XIth Five Year Plan, we had
envisioned
this Institute with the hope that once set up, it would serve as a
centre of
excellence on the issue of accessibility and universal design. Ideally,
it
should have been sanctioned in the very first year itself but it was
not! We
have followed up on this year after year after year with the PMO as well
as
the Urban Development Ministry but with no fruitful outcome.



*The setting up of the National Institute of Universal Design is a
solemn
promise made to the disabled people of India by the Planning Commission
under your Chairership. Sir, please ensure that it is fulfilled this
year.*



*2: The National Trust for the Welfare of Persons with Autism, Cerebral
Palsy, Mental Retardation and Multiple Disabilities was set up in 1999.
By
and large, it has failed in its mandate. Pre 1999, parents of children
with
severe disabilities were asking "what will happen to our children after
us?". A dozen years have gone by, but the question remains unresolved.
Poor
leadership apart, one major reason for nothing substantial to have
happened
is the lack of resources.*



*The National Trust was set up with a Corpus of 100 crores. Believe it
or
not, Sir, 12 years have gone by but the Corpus stands as it is. It seems
that in the eye of your Government, especially MSJE, this particular
Institution is immune to inflation!* The Trust operates its various
schemes
from the interest that it earns from its Corpus, say about Rs. 8-9 or
maximum Rs. 10 crores per annum. That was the budget in 1999-2000 when
it
was set up. That remains its budget even over a decade later in
2010-2011
and now, thanks to Hon'ble Finance Minister's oversight, it will remain
the
same this F.Y. also.



*Sir, Hon'ble Finance Minister is quite fond of the figure 300 and he
admitted so much during the Budget speech. I request you, Sir, to please
impress upon him to sanction an additional Rs. 300 crores during this
F.Y.
to the Corpus of the National Trust. Now, it is all the more necessary
because under the new scheme of things, the mandate of the Trust is
going to
be expanded to include several other disabilities which also have High
Support Needs.*



An additional Rs. 300 crores would do wonders to this organisation meant
for
the most marginalised and the most severely disabled citizens of India.



*3: Hon'ble Finance Minister has been very generous in taking up the
Income
T

Re: [AI] Info about registration for CS foundation.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

ADMISSION PROCEDURE:

* For admission candidate have to fill Application Form. The Application
Form and Prospectus can be obtained by Cash Payment of Rs200/- or by
Post/Courier:
DD/PO of Rs250/- drawn in favor of "The Institute of Company Secretaries
of India" payable at New Delhi.

IMPORTANT DATES:

* Admission is open throughout the year.
* The last date for appearing in December 2011 examination: End week of
March, 2011.

CONTACT DETAILS:

Headquarters
ICSI House
22, Institutional Area
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Ph. 011-24617321, 4150444

EMAIL: i...@icsi.edu

WEB SITE: www.icsi.edu

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of lingam
prathusha
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:35 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Info about registration for CS foundation.

hellow accessindians hope everything is fine with you. Can any1 of you
tell me when to register for CS foundation, for november 2011 attempt?
Regards,

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Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

The situation in India for disabled is very very bad, leave alone few
good example but majority is  down under. There is complete lack of any
thought , no accessible tools , basic working condition for disabled,
leave aside salary or promotion , no training. Who will change inherited
colonial thinking of people. Disabled category is non homogenous group
who are named as obligation, risk and costly proposition.

I am still positive about changing situation as more people are given
opportunity.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra   

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:55 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO
firms

Could not agree more!!!


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jairam
Balasubramanian
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:49 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO
firms

At Srinivasu

If we are talking about individual company names, one company named
Lazer soft in Chennai, claimed to have been equal opportunity company
and also that most of its employees were challenged.
The company was specialising in development of softwares for banking
space, and when I went in for interview, not a single visually
challenged person was recruited there.
After my qualification as CA in 2006, my experiences at the campus
recruitments in ICAI with companies like Goldman Sacks, BPCL, Wipro,
Infosys, L&T, etc have been clearly an evidence of the reluctance of
the HR managers to recruit visually challenged candidates.

Do we mean to say that any VI person who have'nt been able to land up
into a job into the corporate world, lacks the requisite skills, its
sheer bull shit.
Only a handfull of us, have been able to land up into good jobs, and
based on that, we can't conclude that no-one else possesses the
requisite skills. And also that , we better know how we landed up into
those jobs.
And about the skill sets, hiring a candidate from IIM or such premier
institutes does not require any great boasting up of the companies of
having been an inclusive organisation, as it constitutes only a meagre
percentage, and also that they would anyways get placed due to their
knowledge and networking.
Barring a few on this list itself, I don't think there are many of us
who are highly Tech savy or people who have total expertees in their
respective domains.
For that matter, any fresher or even experienced persons may
necessarily not be having indepth understanding of the industry as a
whole.
If our education systems are non-inclusive, then its not fair to blame
the individual for not possessing good linguistic skills, or the so
called soft skills, most of the schools being regional in nature, even
in relatively bigger cities.
Let us not generalise our ideas on the basis of a very small sample,
where the ground reality is completely different.
May be that, the so called HR managers and the top management,
comprising of the best brains from B-schools, lack the skill sets in
valuation, which they think they are good at.
Its all about finding value, and if someone is not able to find any
value in something, then its his/her incompetence as well as the
product itself.
If I have been created differently, then why I should be equated with
my non-peers and rated on the same scale. Competence/incompetence is
highly relative.

Jairam


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Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello shadab,

Congratulation de ben.Good thought of having a party after rejection,
never get bogged down . Truth is my word for onset of any relationship ,
never betray or fool your better half. Good thought and stories inches
ahead director's act where ideas oozing out in form of script , sorry
not pretending to be charlatan.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ajay
Minocha
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:56 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage

Hi shadab bhai
your hunger for praises can be fulfilled
because I prais a ton times the aproach that you have towards your life
I am totally agree with Rohiet
I know that I am quite young for all these things
but from my parent's way of talking to me
I can clearly make an impression about what they think for my marage
in adition to the  of my parents thoughts to marrie a so called normal
girl
" in their openion I don't think so"
I will also have to convince my elder siblings because I am youngest
in my family
but now a days I don't think that much about this matter because My
studies and carrior are the 1st prayority for me
because I think this marriage and all that stuff can only be
successful if a person has a nice source of earning
that's the reality of our so called practicle life
no relationship can sustain for long without money
I want to say sorry if I have herted somebody's feelings
regards


On 12/13/11, Subramani L  wrote:
> Not only can we come around the fire, but also bend down to hold the
> bride's big toe while holding her hand with one of our own and direct
> her leg towards a solid granite grinder as custom would demand. Dont
> ask me how. I know it is possible.
>
> Subbu
>
> On 12/13/11, syed imran  wrote:
>> Just a curious question - being a visually impaired, how does one
>> round the fire for seven times?
>>
>> No offense
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On 12/13/11, akhilesh  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm quoting the mail below and later I will answer and clarify the
>>> point that I made in my mail.
>>> It was from Mr. Bhavani shankar in reply of my mail.
>>> ==
>>> how do a person can perform love marrige. one should fall in love
>>> first. it desires a big fortune! if you have done so, you are luckey
>>> enough. smiles!
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Bhavani ji,
>>> A love marriage can not be performed without falling in love.
>>>
>>> I don't know about your location and locality so I would not comment
>>> on the possibilities of falling in love with someone, but in our
city
>>> of Delhi the possibilities and opportunities of falling in love with
>>> someone are quite high.
>>> I think that I don't agree with you when you say that it is a matter
>>> of fortune .
>>>  I don't want to be fortunet in this field as of now, but yeah in
>>> future, yeah I would want to be, and I will be.
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya,
>>> Advocate.
>>> Mobile: +91 9210616426
>>> New Delhi.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/12/11, Rohiet A. Patil  wrote:
>>>> Bhavani jee, I want to draw your attention to a very strange but
true
>>>> issue.
>>>> As you say, one should keep sighted partner as a last option, but
most
>>>> of
>>>> the time our parents keep them on a top priority because of many
many
>>>> misunderstandings. In this case, it's very hard to convince them.
My
>>>> point
>>>> is, can we say that they are responsible for any future mishaps if
>>>> happens
>>>> unfortunetly? I have a strong opinian that in many cases, they are
>>>> responsible for spoiling our life completely. Because they are
having a
>>>> egoistic aproach that "humay sub samazta hai. hum tumhara nuksan
nahi
>>>> karnay
>>>> jaa rahay hai." Or something like this.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:31 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you are absolutely right!
>>>> i did not say that one should not go for sighted partner, but,
>>>> preferably
>>>> don't go for sighted partner. keep it as the last option.
>>>>

Re: [AI] Dating

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Dating is a corrupt application, simply a crack version of love.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,

Pankaj Kwatra


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:28 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Dating

I really liked this thread and thoroughly enjoyed reading all the posts
here.

On 17/12/2011, Umesha Economics  wrote:
> it is sad that these people cross boundaries even after moderator
making his
> remark.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "shubham gupta" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Dating
>
>
>> well rajesh sir,
>>
>> Go on, and present the other half of the poem.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> (Shubham Gupta)
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Dating
>>
>>
>>> Well on a serious note, visual ability or otherwise does matter in
such
>>> matters.
>>> So, it would be good if we can discuss it from that angle.
>>> I have observed that the fact  that we are not hundred percent
>>> independent in our outings, and the girl has naturally to assist us,
>>> affects social outlook.
>>> For ex. firstly, the girl herself may come to feel it something
other
>>> than or less than a date, and so, the quality of relationship
matters.
>>> Another challenge is to make intentions clear, as more often than
not,
>>> eyes are the primary medium for expressing romantic intent.
>>>
>>> Sahir has said:
>>> Kaun kahta hai, muhhabat ki Zuban hoti hai,
>>> Ye hakikat to nigahon se bayan hoti hai..
>>> However, we have to change this and I have replied to him in a
prolonged
>>> poem which begins like:
>>>
>>> Ham ye kahte hain muhhabat ki zuban hoti hai.
>>> Ye hakikat kyaa nigahon se bayaan hoti hai???
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
>>> SHANKAR VERMA
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:59 AM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Dating
>>>
>>> mohit requires barrier free environment with accessibility as well!
>>> smiles!
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Dating
>>>
>>>
>>>> hi Mohit, go about it dear if you feel it to be right. nothing
comes
>>>> out without your expression. to be frank there is no accessible
dating
>>>> yet dear. :) practice from your own experiences and do what ever is
>>>> right as per your instincts. just one suggestion just be bold!
>>>>
>>>> On 12/14/11, shubham gupta  wrote:
>>>>> rishi sir,
>>>>> again please try to provide the link as it has been deleated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>
>>>>> (Shubham Gupta)
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Rishi Kewalramani" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Dating
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mohit Bhaiya,
>>>>>> hmmm, Dating hah
>>>>>> The Saro talk  of 24th Sep, 2009, had a matured discussion about
>>>>>> relationships, finding and meeting those special people, which
could
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> friendships or may be something   more on a personal level,
people
>>>>>> seeking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> intemacy from a visually challenged person's prospective. How do
we
>>>>>> pursue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> relationships, what do we look for, how do we overcome our fears
and
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> of the stereotypes   that we may have to deal with etc.
>>>>>> Perhaps, you can take some tips from this talk.
>>>>>> But don't forget that you are the very   embodiment of happiness.
You
>>>>>> may
>>>>>> pursue a sensible relationship objecti

Re: [AI] Happy birth Day Louis Braille!

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Yes salute to the legend.Mr. Louis Braille showed the way and turned
darkness into light of literacy.

Thankyou to his charisma and excellences persona de brilliance.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra  

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Nikhil Jain
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:32 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Happy birth Day Louis Braille!

Dear Friends,



Today is the special day for all of us. It is the 203rd birth day of the
Great Louis Braille, the man who invented Braille. it was not merely
invention of Braille but he could also be creditted to provide us the
much needed individuality and liberation from ignorance. Today, what we
are, is largely because of the significant role played by the great man.



As every year, we are gathering at the statue of Louis Braille in the
heart of Arts Faculty DU at 10.30 A.M to pay tribute to Louis Braille.
Those of you who are part of DU or staying in Delhi are requested to
join us for this.



Thanks and regards.





Nikhil Jain

Dr. Nikhil Jain

assistant Professor ( Pol. Sc.)

Department of Political Science

Dyal Singh College (University of Delhi)

Elected AC member (DU)

Mobile: 9818021880

Emails: ni...@rediffmail.com, drni...@gmail.com, nik...@sambhavana.org



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Re: [AI] Giving exams with JAWS

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Prefer computer rather then another person to write my answers as it
judges my skills and self evaluation can be done in terms of grammar ,
typing , speed helpful for competitive exams and cheating would be with
yourself rather then any other modus operandi.

Computer can take care of any lengthy stuff , diagrams , computation
etc.The option of using both computer and test paper script is also
practical.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shona Man
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 1:09 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Giving exams with JAWS

Hi, its better idea to give ur exams if u are smart enough in typing
on the keyboard. I am also planning to write my exams on computer in
my next semester. I think that they will provide their own computer
because if they allow u to use your own laptop then the apprehension
of cheating will be in their mind even if u do honestly!. But what I
found that while  dictating the answer the state of mind is much
concentrated rather than typing on the keyboard. Typing distracts the
mind and one may loose his/her concentration. But I will do hard work
upon maintaining concentration while typing. Another apprehension is
of some mishapp, suppose something bad happened with the computer or
you by mistake loose the written answer! or any other technical
faliour to the machine?
I think LL.B exams can be given in better way by writing himself.

On 1/5/12, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I usually give all my exams with the help of a writer.
> I am currently in 12th grade.
> So, I often find it hard to find a good writer for giving all my
tests.
> I have been able to finalize a writer for the boards.
> She writes very well, but the problem is that she grumbles a lot
> because the answers that I have to write are often very long and she
> has to spend nearly 4 hours for every paper.
> I usually don't ask one writer to give more than a couple of papers at
> a time so that they can all get adequate amount of rest.
> I do know that this is not possible for the boards, and that is why I
> said that I have finalized one single writer for the boards.
>
> However, like I said earlier, it is often very difficult to find a
good
> writer.
> I am planning to go for LLB after 12th, so I will inevitably have to
> solve long, lengthy papers.
> So, due to this, very few people will be willing to solve my papers
for me.
> Many people solve their papers on a computer with JAWS.
> So, even I'll probably have to do that after 12th.
> I have a couple of questions regarding that.
>
> First, do you use your own laptop for solving the papers, or do you
> have to use a computer at the place where you're giving your exam?
> Do you face any particular problems with this method of giving your
> exams on the computer?
> Are you able to properly finish your paper within the stipulated
amount of
> time?
>
> So, please do respond to these questions.
> Your help, as always, would be really appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Rahul
>
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Re: [AI] A Colleague's wife falls into a pit!

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Digging in dirt is age old passion of civic authorities. The buck is
passed on and on till somebody falls prey to open manholes or any
unfinished task of various government department. These concrete jungles
poses many such risks and people have been fighting  endlessly with
local authorities. Media is responsive, powerful and effective medium.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra
 



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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George
Abraham
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 12:12 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] A Colleague's wife falls into a pit!

Friends,

The day before yesterday, a colleague of ours along with his wife had
gone 
to a market near their house in North Delhi. Both are visually impaired
and 
the lighting on the road was poor and the wife slipped and fell into a
pit 
on the way and was badly hurt.

Now pits, open man holes and all kinds of such obstacles are not very 
uncommon in a country like ours where the civic administration is
totally 
inefficient, corrupt and insensitive. All of us  who are visually
impaired 
in this country have to thank God that we have not fallen into any of
these 
traps as yet that are waiting for us in our cities while going about our

daily lives.

We are called upon to be independent and  mobile. I wonder how this is 
possible when the environment around us is unsafe and inaccessible.

This apart,  a few years ago I was visiting an old building in Central
Delhi 
and while climbing the stairs, I found uncovered electric wires hanging 
loosely on the sides of the staircase. A blind person could easily
touched 
these wires. Wonder what the city authorities would have said then. I
have 
encountered such staircases in Mumbai too.

Another safety hazard for us blind people are the stray dogs and monkeys

that boldly roam the streets these days. Shouldn't we do something about

this?

I think it is time we raised our voices against this. People have to
realize 
that open man holes uncovered pits, untidy footpaths, uncovered electric

wires, stray animals  and the like are unsafe for all concerned. We
should 
not be waiting for an accident to take place before  taking any action.

People interested in joining us in filing a PIL in this regard, please
write 
to us privately at

advoc...@eyeway.org

We have to make our cities safer for each of us.

Look forward to hearing from you!

George
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
17/107, LGF
Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4
New Delhi 110024

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Re: [AI] How to accept friend request on Face book?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Friend,

Please use NVDA as Jaws does create some problem with facebook.

Cheers,

Pankaj

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash
shahi
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 6:37 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] How to accept friend request on Facebook?

Hi members
Recent changes brought by Zuckerberg's men/women are very painstaking.
I have received six friends requests recently, but when hitting enter
on confirm friend its not working.
What to do how to accept their requests? some of them are very close
ones!:)


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or even touched. They must be felt within the heart."  - Helen Keller

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New Delhi India


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Re: [AI] making speeches

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Everybody,

The projector went off once with me so did presentation without any
E-equipment.

Suggestion would be not to rely too much on electronic medium and be
prepared for any situation. The presentation should be kept short ,crisp
, to the point with clarity.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra
  

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 10:28 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] making speeches

Something else to keep in mind is to have a backup plan in case the
audio/visual equipment doesn't work.  There is nothing more annoying
than to attend a presentation and an unreasonable amount of time is
wasted fiddling with the projector, computer or whatever.  Even if you
do have the time and ability to test out the equipment ahead of time,
things still go wrong.  
Jean
 

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Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Disability is certain factor in work , salary , promotion in India
aPWD's are not treated equally with some exceptions. I have come across
many people who cannot even think of blind person working on computer ,
you can call it lack of awareness.

Hiring a disabled is just fulfilling obligation , mercy or social
responsibility.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:13 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

If they don't know of your disability and you did not need any
differential ways/things for your work, then I have to say that  you are
not qualified to answer the question of job appraisals for disabled
employees, as the situation is inapplicable to you...

Disability surely is a relevant factor in job appraisals, that's all I
can say for now...


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Zeba Naaz
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:49 PM
To: Mujtaba Merchant; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

well Mujtaba,
in my case i am the only vi person who is working  in my company i am
working as an account manager into US staffing, so   as well as i
didnt face any kind of   discrimination and most of the people doesnt
know about my disability i am partial so i use to do my work very
normally  and for appraisal  we all   get the appraisal  on our
performance not on our disability ...

On 1/10/12, Mujtaba Merchant  wrote:
> Hello Members,
>
> Here today I bring in another debateable topic of discussion to the
group.
>
> I understand getting a job as a visually impaired person is a
challenge in
> it self. Those of us who make it through have some sense of
acccomplishment.
> Once in the job other factors come into play mainly for the sake of
this
> discussion I would like to address "Performance Rating".
>
> I would like the members who are already employed to shed some light
on this
> subject. How is your performance measured? Are you compared to the
rest of
> your team which comprises of sighted people? OR is there a mix of it?
or do
> they have some other way of rating your performance? Are they
comparing
> apples with apples when it comes to performance rating? Does your
disability
> come in the way of appraisals or promotions?
>
> I assume that there is no solid answer to any of these questions. But
it
> will help in getting some clarity on the subject from our community
members
> who are already employed and on the job. Do share your views on this
please.
>
> Mujtaba Merchant
> Bangalore, India
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Re: [AI] Problem of SBI Net Banking for all new visually impaired.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Special net banking for VI with SBI then how does VI work with other
bank websites . The screen readers are quite accessible with all
websites with very few exceptions , but option of multiple screen
readers is available or it is for less functionality to VI community.The
employee of SBI can better explain this issue.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:09 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem of SBI Net Banking for all new visually
impaired.

The moment itself when SBI had introduced this special net banking for
VI, I had said it's a fool's idea.
Now, we are witnessing its exclusivity and VI are only offered this
so-called special net banking.
I am really at a loss to understand, who among the blind, if anybody,
advises these stupid measures...


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem of SBI Net Banking for all new visually
impaired.

Hi All,
Before coming to the specific question of the sender, let me state the
fact that yes SBI Net Banking for Visually Challenged is creating issues
for all new customers. At appropriate times we have gone into the
demerits of this facility, so lets not waste our time in that. The
ground reality is that it doesn't have NEFT / RTGS payment clearing
systems, and that is why we deny taking this net banking.
Recently, I had a chance to write to the Chairman, SBI when one of the
visually impaired in bombay itself was denied from even opening the
account despite showing RBI and IBA circulars. Of course through the
intervention of DGM, Customer Service, and Local Head Office Mumbai, the
matter was sorted out. However again the same problem came, the new
customer is offered this net banking instead of the normal net banking
even after our request for the normal net banking. And they, including
their head office say that its as per guidelines, we can't do anything
about it. Since this is something which the person concerned will have
to fight for, I am not sure to what level the account holder will be
taking it after considering his / her own limitations and resources.
This net banking comes with an undertaking, which says that you shall
not share your account details with anyone and the transactions done by
you will be binding on you. The latter part appears to be safety measure
for bankers though, but its not safe on our part to sign such
undertakings. Nobody can deny that one day due to some stupid technical
error, the transaction may go wrong, and because we have signed such
undertaking, we do not enjoy the privilege of fighting like a normal
customer.
Undertaking system exist in IDBI also. When I wanted to open the account
because of 0 balance scheme, I was given an undertaking to sign, of
course which I didn't do and then I lost interest in opening account
there.
So, one day some visually impaired will have to stand against this
system of internet banking, and get the error rectified for all in one
shot. I strongly suggest that do not go for this internet banking,
provided that you have the daring and resources like time etc to fight
against it.
Answering the question of invalid username and password, it takes 24-48
hours to get it activated, so check whether it is active or not with
your branch. Otherwise, the issue may be that when you are entering the
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Re: [AI] how to crack a job opportunity?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Ruchir,

Make the HR people aware of assisted technology which helpss VI person
to  perform given task quite efficiently, just grab opportunity and buy
some time to perform for which convincing power is to be applied.

Rest all the best.

Cheers,

Pankaj Kwatra



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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ajay
Minocha
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:02 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] how to crack a job opportunity?

Hi sir
in which b school do you study?
regards

On 1/12/12, ruchir falodiya  wrote:
> Good afternoon accessindians!
>
> First of all, the good news is that, I've scored 78% in all 3
> semesters, and has been rewarded as best overall performer for the
> batch  2010/2012.
>
>
> To be able to achieve this position for 1 of top 50 B school of india,
> means a lot to me and I just wanted to share this good news with you
> all.
>
> I sincerely like to thank each one of you for the help you all gave me
> during my cat exams, and strength afterwards for sstruggling to find
> the right college.
>
> Once again, I need your help.
>
> Since I'm now in my 4th sem, placements are on and in view of
> economical slow down, the companies visiting campus are mostly
> national brands and not MNC's, and I'm not getting a fair chance to
> prove my skills in an interview, as most of  HR recruiting team
> members are not sure if they can go ahead with the selection process.
>
> Despite of my excellent academic and extra curricula record, I'm not
> getting a job opportunity.
>
> I'm aware that most of you are employed in esteemed organizations, so
> I just wanted to ask you all what steps should I take from here?
>
> I'm sure that if I get an opportunity for an interview, I can give my
best.
>
> By the way, I've specialized in marketing, and my primary objective is
> to work with an IT solutions  based firms, and my areas of interest
> are CRM, B to B sales and social media marketing.
>
> Having worked with NVDA and deepspace as coordinator, I have developed
> strong communication skills globally and can utilize it as well
> according to the rrequirement.
>
>
> My resume can be found here:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1474682/ruchir_resume1.doc
>
> I will be grateful if you can forward this to your HR team and get in
> touch with me on my personal email ID to guide me further.
>
> Any help at this point will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Ruchir
>
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Re: [AI] Suggestions & guidance

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello 

Please try to uninstall skype once and then install again.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
sweety.bhalla
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:46 AM
To: B. R. Nautial; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions & guidance

There is no such type of button, moreover, I recorded through Window
Movie 
maker and visited to their service center to examine. It is working well

except in skype.
- Original Message - 
From: "B. R. Nautial" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions & guidance


Hello! there may be an "On-Off" switch on your microphone. if its there.
you
have to keep that in "on" mode to record any of the message.
If there's no switch on the leed of microphone, means, there's a break
in
the wire. you have to replace the microphone.
With Regards
BE. R. Nautial
Mobile: +91-9915073368
- Original Message - 
From: "sweety.bhalla" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:32 AM
Subject: [AI] Suggestions & guidance


> Friends,
>
> With new year wishes, I'm not able to use microphone in Skype, though
it
> is working well, tested in different ways. I've tried in my office and
> personal systems, Vista and XP both. I also recorded through Window
Movie
> Maker very well. I am not getting anything wrong in the settings. Help
for
> the same will be highly appreciated.
> Thanks in anticipation.
> With regards
>
> (Sweety Bhalla)
> Assistant Manager (Compliance)
> IFCI  LTD
> New Delhi India
> E-Mail: sweety.bha...@ifciltd.com
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Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & hearing /speech impaired.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Dreams roots are both conscious state of mind and unconscious world
hidden to many people. The perception of late blind does not change as
few things never change for example colors ,shapes etc. The mind stores
data of everything in memory so with no vision object is analyzed with
available data and information is continually updated with learning and
new experiences.

RGDS,


Pankaj Kwatra
" Keep thoughts clean and positive for good dreams "
  

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:58 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

Hi Bijal

I suppose, dreams are just the manifestation of the world of your
awakened conscious state. What ever gives sensory inputs, those would be
reflected in the dream state.

Continuing with Vetri's comments, sexual experiences in dream would be
triggered by biological factors like those of hormones, scent, thoughts
etc.

Interesting topic.
Harish Kotian.

-Original Message-
From: bijal patel [mailto:bijalpatel...@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 January 2012 23:11
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

Dear friends,
It's just my curiosity to know about dreams during night of totally
and born blind as well as hearing/speech impaired person.
How are the dreams of such persons who never see colours in life? Is
there a dream of multi-coloured world?
And what about dreams of h i/ and s i, who never hear voice?
So please, explain.
Friends, this query is based only for scientific level.
Thanks.
Bijal Patel.



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Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Adding few points :

1. Keep private sector as your last option for employment as government
or public sector has more benefits / security.

2. Equal opportunity employer is just a buzz word as MNC's do not follow
anything and their policies change with countries.

3. Hiring a disabled in private sector is just branding exercise and
fulfilling social responsibility clause.

4. Private sector do not have any policy for promotion , salary
revisions or benefits to PWD's .

5. Private sector will keep PWD's on contracts and there is no arbitrary
or legal protection.

RGDS,

Pankaj Kwatra
   

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sudhir R
(NeSTIT)
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:36 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

Hi Govind !

You can address me  in whichever manner you are comfortable with, dear.
I am always available at 098 472  76 126.

I agree with Rajesh's views about the public sector  under-utilising
persons with disabilities, but, frankly, in these tumultuous times, with
EMI payments on home, car or personal loans dangling over one's head, it
is indeed  a comforting thought to know that one's payslip will keep
arriving  without fail till the age of retirement. (smile)

Having said this, I must hasten to add that even PSUs are not actually
safe enough,  as I myself discovered in 2004.  The then NDA govt was
following a policy of strategic disinvestment (viz. diluting a majority
stake in public sector units) and   a moratorium on retrenchment was
built into the Share Holders' Agreement that afforded protection of just
one more year of service to the unionized workforce (not officers).  The
companies that were disinvested  (like BALCO, Modern Food Industries
Ltd) etc promptly "restructured" their workforce exactly at the end of
one year of disinvestment, giving a golden handshake to its disabled
employees.  I had lengthy telephone consultations with Dr Uma Tule, then
CCPD, and legal experts like Dr Bhushan Punani (BPA, Ahmedabad) and they
were unanimous in their view that the PWD Act's protection was available
only when the government was in control in a unit.  The fate of disabled
employees in a company after disinvestment was a gray area (and still
is, if I am not mistaken) and this was one of the motivating factors for
me to opt for voluntary retirement when the Govt put my previous
employer on the chopping block.  

Public sector banks are safer since there seems to be some consensus
among political parties that they should not be privatized.  However,
the safest bet is joining the Government itself.  One can find
fulfillment in life through other avenues, you know, once financial
security is ensured.

A lot of so-called equal opportunity employers quietly dumped their
disabled resources during the melt-down in 2008.  Similar trouble lies
ahead  with  clouds gathering in the economic firmament.

All the best for your hunt for a safe harbour...

Rgds

RS 

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Govind
Reddy
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:15 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

Hi Sudeer If I can address you as,
I accept all your views and opinions expressed on the 12th of this
month.
Private companies may provide you with lot of luxuries to get their
work done, but we should always be ready to face cyclones in the form
of global economic recession, performance appraisals, quality
assurance and so on.
I've been working with different private companies including GE global
servicing in hyderabad for the past 3 years.
I've just started struggling to find a good place in the public sector
units.
However I'd like to have your phone number if possible.
In wait of your reply,
-- 
Govind, Voice trainer with GE Money Services.
Phone: 91-9030915271.
Email: sgred...@gmail.com


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Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & hearing /speech impaired.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Brain power is really unexplored by science. How can a blind person see
faces of people with just listening to their voice or shake hand but it
is true. The image of any place is formed by spending some time at a
particular area. How can person with no vision guide complete route on
road without any visual inputs. The sense of smell , taste and hearing
becomes powerful , you can judge things by mere heat where every living
or mechanical energy in this world emits heat .The smell sensation
becomes very powerful , it becomes difficult to control but it can be
done with practice. Hearing power keeps the volume at 1 or it can go
down to minimum if focused with no distraction.

RGDS,

Pankaj Kwatra
  
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab
Husain
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:07 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

In some dreams I see all the colours and faces while in some not. My
laptop, I learnt a few days ago, is black. But I had thought that it
is my favourite white, and I continue to see it white! I wear a jacket
which is gray and black, but I used to think that it is my favourite
blue and still I see it blue! I lost vision gradually but pretty
curiously I suddenly realised that I have actually lost a considerable
amount of it because I was habitual of seeing things. This time also
my eyes are full of colours and brightness. Thank you, God!

On 1/24/12, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Well, due to memory and reflexive habit,  we tend to visualize to the
extent
> we could actually see once.
>
> This holds true for totally blind as well, for totally blind even by
birth
> are not usually  plunged into total darkness unless they don't have
eyes and
> so on.
> So, we cannot go beyond actual visual percepts, not even in our
dreams.
> So, I hold all claims of inner eyes etc. to be totally bogus and
direly
> misplaced...
> A person who has never experienced light would essentially dream in a
way
> which does not include light, as I do dream without experiencing color
as I
> have never experienced it, and experience light only to a limited
degree
> which corresponds to my actual light perception.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bijal
patel
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:31 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing /speech impaired.
>
> Hello all,
> I lost my vision gradually and now even no light perception. If I am
> talking about dreams, no any difference between present and past. Same
> human being's faces, moments and world which I saw earlier. In my
> daily routine life, I feel same visualization of objects, places and
> relatives of which I saw in my past. Many times, during conversation,
> my mind starts to imajine very minor human actions like moments of
> eyes, lips, nose, including entire body according opposite person's
> voice and situation. So several times, I forget whether I have really
> no vision. I don't know it's a power of strong imagination,
> visualization or memory. Yes, it's true, now having no colour
> perception, my mind doesn't focus on colouring world, so many times, I
> use to ask colour of objects, and then no problem!
> Still waiting for experiences of totally/blind members.
> While writing mail, one more query, Is there any devise which can show
> our visualization or night dreams? Really smiling.
> Thanks a lot for all interest.
> Bijal.
>
> On 1/24/12, hemase...@ingvysyabank.com 
wrote:
>>
>>  I too lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period. I cont see
any
>> images.con't even see my parents faces.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]On Behalf Of Sudhir R
>> (NeSTIT)
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:41 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,&
>> hearing /speech impaired.
>>
>>
>> Did you lose your eye sight instantaneously (as in an accident like
>> Harish) or over a very brief period of time (like Payal ) ?
>>
>> In such cases, the images stored in your brain must be crystal clear
>> till the "n- 1'st moment.
>>
>> In my case, I lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period
>> Perhaps, my brain stored progressively degraded images.
>>
>> Does this

Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Asif,

Please have control on your language and my reply to this topic is for
benefit of our young members and I know companies  which you have
mentioned , you have to come up with concrete examples of people who
have done well in private sector.

  

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohammed
Asif Iqbal
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:38 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

Sorry for the delay in reply.
I think this is absolutely bull shit. Yes grass is not all green at
private
sector but it is indeed making an effort. MNC such as IBM are global
leader
in diversity and they practice diversity in real sense in India as well.
There are many company such as Pwc, Pepsi, etc.
Please state facts before you reply.
Asif


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pankaj
Kwatra
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:32 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

Hello All,

Adding few points :

1. Keep private sector as your last option for employment as government
or public sector has more benefits / security.

2. Equal opportunity employer is just a buzz word as MNC's do not follow
anything and their policies change with countries.

3. Hiring a disabled in private sector is just branding exercise and
fulfilling social responsibility clause.

4. Private sector do not have any policy for promotion , salary
revisions or benefits to PWD's .

5. Private sector will keep PWD's on contracts and there is no arbitrary
or legal protection.

RGDS,

Pankaj Kwatra
   

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sudhir R
(NeSTIT)
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:36 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

Hi Govind !

You can address me  in whichever manner you are comfortable with, dear.
I am always available at 098 472  76 126.

I agree with Rajesh's views about the public sector  under-utilising
persons with disabilities, but, frankly, in these tumultuous times, with
EMI payments on home, car or personal loans dangling over one's head, it
is indeed  a comforting thought to know that one's payslip will keep
arriving  without fail till the age of retirement. (smile)

Having said this, I must hasten to add that even PSUs are not actually
safe enough,  as I myself discovered in 2004.  The then NDA govt was
following a policy of strategic disinvestment (viz. diluting a majority
stake in public sector units) and   a moratorium on retrenchment was
built into the Share Holders' Agreement that afforded protection of just
one more year of service to the unionized workforce (not officers).  The
companies that were disinvested  (like BALCO, Modern Food Industries
Ltd) etc promptly "restructured" their workforce exactly at the end of
one year of disinvestment, giving a golden handshake to its disabled
employees.  I had lengthy telephone consultations with Dr Uma Tule, then
CCPD, and legal experts like Dr Bhushan Punani (BPA, Ahmedabad) and they
were unanimous in their view that the PWD Act's protection was available
only when the government was in control in a unit.  The fate of disabled
employees in a company after disinvestment was a gray area (and still
is, if I am not mistaken) and this was one of the motivating factors for
me to opt for voluntary retirement when the Govt put my previous
employer on the chopping block.  

Public sector banks are safer since there seems to be some consensus
among political parties that they should not be privatized.  However,
the safest bet is joining the Government itself.  One can find
fulfillment in life through other avenues, you know, once financial
security is ensured.

A lot of so-called equal opportunity employers quietly dumped their
disabled resources during the melt-down in 2008.  Similar trouble lies
ahead  with  clouds gathering in the economic firmament.

All the best for your hunt for a safe harbour...

Rgds

RS 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Govind
Reddy
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:15 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

Hi Sudeer If I can address you as,
I accept all your views and opinions expressed on the 12th of this
month.
Private companies may provide you with lot of luxuries to get their
work done, but we should always be ready to face cyclones in the form
of global economic recession, performance appraisals, quality
assurance and so on.
I've been working with different private companies including GE global
servicing in hyderabad for the past 3 years.
I've just starte

Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & hearing /speech impaired.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Rajesh,

No it is not always visual , many dreams are having no relevance to
actual life, some dreams does not make any sense and very few are picked
up or remembered after waking up.

Rgds,

Pankaj Kwatra
 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:17 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

One query to all those who have gone blind late in life and have
memories of dreaming both as sighted and blind.
Do dreams remain predominantly visual even after losing sight?


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rupa
mukherjee
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:54 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

Hello friends,
A very nice & interesting topic to discuss. It's an opportunity to
know, how different people express their thoughts & desires while
dreaming. We never decide to visualise unpleasant dreams, but still
sometimes we see them.
I would like to share my feelings & views on the same, hope many have
the same view on this!
I lost my vision about 26/years back, but still now in dreams, I see
colours, faces  & objects, which I never saw even! May be I am a late
blind & seen colours & faces etc, helps me to visualise the things
better, but how, is my question?

I think, while talking to someone or touching or listening about
something, we imagine a basic image of that person or object & in our
dreams also we imagine that only. We might not visualise it actually,
but as we imagine during talking, touching or listening, we imagine
the same & say we can see all while dreaming. It's all our imagination
power, which really allows us to see in dreams & smile!
Sometimes in my dreams, I know I am blind, but still I see certain
colours, objects etc, really don't know why? It's really a puzzle, how
I visualise things in dreams, that too very clearly!
I even see new things also very well! Very surprising, but it's true.
I always regret, when the dream gets over!

Thanks & regards



On 1/28/12, Naushad Charivilayil  wrote:
> We can assume human brain as an information limited sub-reality
machine.
> Human brain create a sub-reality about what you see, hear, touch or
feel
> through the skin. This phenomenon is called persistence. Remember,
when
> your conscious, brain create a sub-reality, that happened
micro-seconds
> ago. Same way, Brain can create a sub reality in the form of dreams
> because of your previous experiences like, peculiar thoughts,
> persistence of your surroundings, fearful experiences during your
> childhood period and so on, in the presence of subconscious mind. In
> this case your brain does not have previous experience of vision. So
it
> is impossible to get a dream with eyesight.
>
>
> On 1/27/2012 7:31 PM, m.chandrashekar wrote:
>> dear friends, i am getting dreams only voices, touches etc. no visual
>> experiences. in the dream also i am blind. this is very bad. is there
>> any methods to get visual dreams? i can imagine lot of things like a
>> sighted man, but, it is not appearing as a dream. atleast in the
>> dream, i wish to become sighted.
>> with best regards
>> m.chandru
>> - Original Message - From: "bijal patel"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,
&
>> hearing /speech impaired.
>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I lost my vision gradually and now even no light perception. If I am
>> talking about dreams, no any difference between present and past.
Same
>> human being's faces, moments and world which I saw earlier. In my
>> daily routine life, I feel same visualization of objects, places and
>> relatives of which I saw in my past. Many times, during conversation,
>> my mind starts to imajine very minor human actions like moments of
>> eyes, lips, nose, including entire body according opposite person's
>> voice and situation. So several times, I forget whether I have really
>> no vision. I don't know it's a power of strong imagination,
>> visualization or memory. Yes, it's true, now having no colour
>> perception, my mind doesn't focus on colouring world, so many times,
I
>> use to ask colour of objects, and then no problem!
>> Still waiting for experiences of totally/blind members.
>> While writing mail, one more query, Is there an

Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & hearing /speech impaired.

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Folks,

Please members also give inputs on dream during daytime or when person
is awake as with no vision how does brain make out difference in day or
night and something about conscious and unconscious state of mind plus
any sleep disorders.

Rgds,

Pankaj Kwatra


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu
Sahu
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:51 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

No Sir. Visual clarity is diminishing in my case.

Even sometimes its blurred and difficult to ascertain whether in dream
also I am imagining or actually experiencing the thing. I find a
blue/black type of film hindering visualization.
Now in many dreams, I act in a sighted manner (I lost my eyesight
suddenly, 8 years back) but feel a sense of restriction like conscious
or sub-conscious part of my mind is saying that I am blind and hence
how is it possible?
I too create imaginary pictures especially of human I interact with.
But, inadvertently. And recently after getting it confirmed by sighted
aid I found that it differs in case to case.

Now, it also becomes difficult to determine whether any movie is seen
in sighted or blindness condition.

(on behalf of Rajesh Sir)

On 1/24/12, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Hi Bijal
>
> I suppose, dreams are just the manifestation of the world of your
awakened
> conscious state. What ever gives sensory inputs, those would be
reflected in
> the dream state.
>
> Continuing with Vetri's comments, sexual experiences in dream would be
> triggered by biological factors like those of hormones, scent,
thoughts etc.
>
> Interesting topic.
> Harish Kotian.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bijal patel [mailto:bijalpatel...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 23 January 2012 23:11
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing
> /speech impaired.
>
> Dear friends,
> It's just my curiosity to know about dreams during night of totally
> and born blind as well as hearing/speech impaired person.
> How are the dreams of such persons who never see colours in life? Is
> there a dream of multi-coloured world?
> And what about dreams of h i/ and s i, who never hear voice?
> So please, explain.
> Friends, this query is based only for scientific level.
> Thanks.
> Bijal Patel.
>
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Re: [AI] Sleep disorders of blind persons

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

My brain goes as per time and body clock or may be perhaps light
sensitive cells in eyes .

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sleep disorders of blind persons

Also, I used to wonder about the process of a completely sightless
person's ability to distinguish night and day. But when you think
about it carefully, it actually makes sense. There are sounds related
to day, early morning and of course nights. Besides, perhaps the
temperature and other similar elements can help him/her to distinguish
night and day. The only question is: What if one lives in a big city
where many of these elements are not easy to identify? Would love to
hear people's experience.

Vetri.

On 01/02/2012, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have changed the subject line.
>
> Yes, it is true, blind persons face sleep disorders. More correctly,
sleeps
> gets triggered during day time. It is found by researchers, the body's
> timeclock or the bioclock gets  reset by sunshine.Hence, you can stand
in
> sunshine early hours facing the sun.
>
> The tip helps folks who travel across countries and the body has to
adjust
> to the new time of that area.
>
> Harish
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pankaj Kwatra [mailto:pankaj.kwa...@tecnovate.co.in]
> Sent: 01 February 2012 09:43
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing /speech impaired.
>
> Hello Folks,
>
> Please members also give inputs on dream during daytime or when person
> is awake as with no vision how does brain make out difference in day
or
> night and something about conscious and unconscious state of mind plus
> any sleep disorders.
>
> Rgds,
>
> Pankaj Kwatra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu
> Sahu
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:51 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing /speech impaired.
>
> No Sir. Visual clarity is diminishing in my case.
>
> Even sometimes its blurred and difficult to ascertain whether in dream
> also I am imagining or actually experiencing the thing. I find a
> blue/black type of film hindering visualization.
> Now in many dreams, I act in a sighted manner (I lost my eyesight
> suddenly, 8 years back) but feel a sense of restriction like conscious
> or sub-conscious part of my mind is saying that I am blind and hence
> how is it possible?
> I too create imaginary pictures especially of human I interact with.
> But, inadvertently. And recently after getting it confirmed by sighted
> aid I found that it differs in case to case.
>
> Now, it also becomes difficult to determine whether any movie is seen
> in sighted or blindness condition.
>
> (on behalf of Rajesh Sir)
>
> On 1/24/12, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> Hi Bijal
>>
>> I suppose, dreams are just the manifestation of the world of your
> awakened
>> conscious state. What ever gives sensory inputs, those would be
> reflected in
>> the dream state.
>>
>> Continuing with Vetri's comments, sexual experiences in dream would
be
>> triggered by biological factors like those of hormones, scent,
> thoughts etc.
>>
>> Interesting topic.
>> Harish Kotian.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bijal patel [mailto:bijalpatel...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 23 January 2012 23:11
>> To: accessindia
>> Subject: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing
>> /speech impaired.
>>
>> Dear friends,
>> It's just my curiosity to know about dreams during night of totally
>> and born blind as well as hearing/speech impaired person.
>> How are the dreams of such persons who never see colours in life? Is
>> there a dream of multi-coloured world?
>> And what about dreams of h i/ and s i, who never hear voice?
>> So please, explain.
>> Friends, this query is based only for scientific level.
>> Thanks.
>> Bijal Patel.
>>
>>
>>
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> and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
> are
>> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination,
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> in

Re: [AI] Sleep disorders of blind persons

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Sun is tremendous source of energy to earth and cosmic energy controls
everything on this planet and I believe body clock is determined by sun
which in turn fixes time to sleep , why do we always sleep in night , do
we have to take something from sun in morning and any alteration to body
clock is against rules of nature which in turn affects health. 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:46 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sleep disorders of blind persons

Hey

Why, one can feel the warmth of the sun.
Harish.

-Original Message-
From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan [mailto:vadhimoo...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 February 2012 15:17
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sleep disorders of blind persons

Also, I used to wonder about the process of a completely sightless
person's ability to distinguish night and day. But when you think
about it carefully, it actually makes sense. There are sounds related
to day, early morning and of course nights. Besides, perhaps the
temperature and other similar elements can help him/her to distinguish
night and day. The only question is: What if one lives in a big city
where many of these elements are not easy to identify? Would love to
hear people's experience.

Vetri.

On 01/02/2012, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have changed the subject line.
>
> Yes, it is true, blind persons face sleep disorders. More correctly,
sleeps
> gets triggered during day time. It is found by researchers, the body's
> timeclock or the bioclock gets  reset by sunshine.Hence, you can stand
in
> sunshine early hours facing the sun.
>
> The tip helps folks who travel across countries and the body has to
adjust
> to the new time of that area.
>
> Harish
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pankaj Kwatra [mailto:pankaj.kwa...@tecnovate.co.in]
> Sent: 01 February 2012 09:43
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing /speech impaired.
>
> Hello Folks,
>
> Please members also give inputs on dream during daytime or when person
> is awake as with no vision how does brain make out difference in day
or
> night and something about conscious and unconscious state of mind plus
> any sleep disorders.
>
> Rgds,
>
> Pankaj Kwatra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu
> Sahu
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:51 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing /speech impaired.
>
> No Sir. Visual clarity is diminishing in my case.
>
> Even sometimes its blurred and difficult to ascertain whether in dream
> also I am imagining or actually experiencing the thing. I find a
> blue/black type of film hindering visualization.
> Now in many dreams, I act in a sighted manner (I lost my eyesight
> suddenly, 8 years back) but feel a sense of restriction like conscious
> or sub-conscious part of my mind is saying that I am blind and hence
> how is it possible?
> I too create imaginary pictures especially of human I interact with.
> But, inadvertently. And recently after getting it confirmed by sighted
> aid I found that it differs in case to case.
>
> Now, it also becomes difficult to determine whether any movie is seen
> in sighted or blindness condition.
>
> (on behalf of Rajesh Sir)
>
> On 1/24/12, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> Hi Bijal
>>
>> I suppose, dreams are just the manifestation of the world of your
> awakened
>> conscious state. What ever gives sensory inputs, those would be
> reflected in
>> the dream state.
>>
>> Continuing with Vetri's comments, sexual experiences in dream would
be
>> triggered by biological factors like those of hormones, scent,
> thoughts etc.
>>
>> Interesting topic.
>> Harish Kotian.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bijal patel [mailto:bijalpatel...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 23 January 2012 23:11
>> To: accessindia
>> Subject: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing
>> /speech impaired.
>>
>> Dear friends,
>> It's just my curiosity to know about dreams during night of totally
>> and born blind as well as hearing/speech impaired person.
>> How are the dreams of such persons who never see colours in life? Is
>> there a dream of multi-coloured world?
>> And what about dreams of h i/ and s i, who never hear voice?
&

Re: [AI] A question regarding graphs

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Rahul,

Difficult to say lost 4 marks because of diagram and you can draw graphs
and also attach circular with answer sheet.

PK  



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] A question regarding graphs

Hi all,

A few months ago, I had asked a question about how the marking is done
for graphs and diagrams for visually impaired students in the HSC
board exams.
So, many people told me that visually impaired students do not have to
make graphs in economics.
Instead, they get all the marks on the basis of the rest of the answer
that they've written.
I asked the board people about this.
So, they gave me a copy of the circular which states that visually
impaired students do not have to make graphs and they further asked me
to attach the copy of that to my answer sheet so that the person
checking the paper will be able to award marks accordingly.

 I followed the same procedure in 10th, but, unfortunately, I did not
get any marks for the diagram question in my paper.
I wasn't able to see my answer sheet, as the provisions of the board
do not allow any student to see the answer sheet after it has been
checked.
However, I got 96 marks, so I'm pretty sure that I lost all my 4 marks
because of the diagram question.
 So, even though the board people have told me that they will allot
marks on the basis of the theoretical part of my answer, I still don't
know whether I should trust them or not.
I can practice all the main graphs with my writer before the exam so
that she'll be able to properly draw them in the exam.
If I do this, then I won't have to attach any circular with my paper,
and my paper will be checked like anyone else's.

I have also been told that the papers of visually impaired students
are checked separately.
I assume that they find out that a student is visually impaired by
seeing the circular which VI students attach to their papers.
So, I also feel that they may not properly evaluate my papers and
might give me just above-average marks on account of sympathy and
pity, without actually checking my paper.
So, naturally, this can have an adverse impact on my percentage.

So, according to you, should I ask my writer to draw the graphs in the
exam, or should I simply attach the circular which the board people
have given?

Your help would be really appreciated.
I hope that my question makes sense.

Cheers,
Rahul


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Re: [AI] FW: Another disabled air passenger, another harrowing experience

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Indemnity bond is the new word for disabled ,banks and now airline.
Wheel chair can be booked online but the request have to be made
well in advance for airline to confirm plus a request for escort can be
done.

THNX,

Pankaj Kwatra
  

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:53 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] FW: Another disabled air passenger,another harrowing
experience

Hello All

Forwarding yet another deplorable incident.
Harish Kotian.


From: mailman-boun...@server2.ultrahost.us
[mailto:mailman-boun...@server2.ultrahost.us] On Behalf Of National
Platform For The Rights of the Disabled (NPRD)
Sent: 23 February 2012 15:26
To: National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled Delhi
Subject: Another disabled air passenger, another harrowing experience

Following the deplorable offloading of Jeeja Ghosh, we have today
received a mail from Anjlee Agarwal of Smarthyam of the unwarranted
harassment and harrowing experience at the hands of the Jet Airways
Personnel.

Reproduced below is the mail sent by Anjlee Agarwal.

Deal All,

Followed by the incident of Jeeja with Spice Jet, the very next day I
was harrassed by Jet Connect on 20th Feb. flight 9W 2211 from Delhi to
Raipur. At Delhi airport. I was asked by the boarding pass issuer, if "I
am fit to fly". When I asked him, "what do you mean", he stared at me
and asked me to sign an indeminity bond. When I refused to do that, he
said, "its our rule and you canot fly without signing this". I had to
sign it, as I could not afford to miss the flight.

Raipur airport:
Inspite of airlines crew assurance of getting an aisle chair on board,
the flight supervisor, Niranjan Sen at Raipur pressurised me to be
bodily lifted by four male loaders with the excuse that while deboarding
at Raipur- they do not have aisle chairs in smaller cities. Hence I was
"ordered" to be bodily lifted  till the gate of the aircraft and then
transferred to the big wheechair and then carried down the steps.

2. On my protest to the above, he threatened me that they will not
de-board me instead will take me back to Delhi as the flight was going
back to Delhi and in midst of all this commotion, flight attendants
asked passengers to board the flight, before I de-boarded.

3. I kept fighting for making an aisle chair available and I refused to
both- "bodily lifting and carried back to Delhi".

4. Meanwhile junior supervisor, started harrassing me by saying that I
have not put a request for wheelchair while booking the tickets. When I
said that I did made a wheelchair request at The Delhi airport and also
while booking tickets, he said that "wheelchairs users cannot  book
tickets through web booking". This came as a bigger shock to me because
I did book tickets online and with wheelchair request.

4. The fight continued for 35 minutes and when they found that I will
not give up, a "Jet airways" aisle chair appeared. With ruthlessness and
extreme rudeness, I was transferred into the aisle chair and "literally
thrown down" the steps, as if they are all trying to get rid of me.

I think, it is quite obvious that what airlines do is book tickets, make
money, and treat disabled passengers as "noonincoops" to be loaded by
loaders, as if we are "sack of vegetables".

There is no rule, no training and no courtesy for disabled passengers.
Private airlines make us sign an ideminity bond, wherein its clearly
written that Airlines will not take any responsibility of the passenger.

Now, it is time for the entire disability sector to join hands and stand
up aganinst the "airlines" and ask them to come up with uniform and
dignified policy/guidelines for disabled passengers and SHOULD pay heavy
price for violation.
The CAR guidelines are available at:
http://dgca.nic.in/cars/D3M-M1.pdf

And international guidelines are available at:
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Like many other cases t

Re: [AI] Science Education of Visually Impaired

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Is it true that practical's can be done online as heard in news
yesterday.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
Chakravarthula
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Science Education of Visually Impaired

Hi Santosh,
Nice to learn that you have taken up Science and in my humble opinion,
you should make the best use of assistive devices and technology and
attend to the practical's and shouldn't look for concessions or
exemptions. So I suggest, your research should be find out solutions for
the problems you would face in practical sessions. For instance, if you
need to deal with liquids, there are liquid level indicators and there
are talking measuring instruments. This way, not only, you would
complete your studies, but an opportunity for you to educate your
collage / university to make their labs accessible.

Let us know, if you have any questions.

Thanks,
-Srinivasu

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of GANDIGUDE
SANTOSH SANJAY UDGIR
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:19 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Science Education of Visually Impaired

Dear friends,
I am Visually Impaired(Blind) Student from Udgir.

I Passed 12th(HSC) Science with Physics,Chemistry,Biology &
Mathematics.I secured 81.68% & 49% Marks in 10th(SSC) & 12th(HSC)
Standard respectively.

My nearer University is Swami Ramanand Teerth Marathwada
University(SRTMU),Nanded.
My Family Income is 30,000 Rupees/Year from all resource.
I do career in Science Education.

I want to do Bachelor degree in Science Subjects.But I have some
Problems,I am not able to do Practicals of Science Subjects Such as
Physics,Chemistry & Biology etc. due to Visual Impairment(Blindness).
So,I ask some questions to you which is related to Science Education of
Visually Impaired(Blind) in Maharashtra.

1)Is the any Concession to do Science Practicals of Science Subjects for
Visually Impaired(Blind)?

2)Can I give any form of Science Practical Exams?

3)Is the any Exemption in Science Practicals?

4)Is the any rule to do science practicals in Science Education?

5)Is the any other rule,facilities &Concessions for Visually Impaired in
Maharashtra?

6)Is the any Concessions in Swami Ramanand Teerth Marathwada
University(SRTMU),Nanded?

7)Is the any Concessions to Visually Impaired in any other
universities,Government Departments and Private Sectors of Maharashtra?

8)What are the employment opportunities for Visually Impaired given by
Indian Government & Private Sector in India?

---
Name:Gandigude Santosh Sanjay.
Education:12th Science(PCMB),
Age:18year,
Visual Disability:75% Since Birth,
Family Income:Rs.3/Year,

permanent Address:A/P.Kalambar,Tq.Mukhed,Dist.Nanded-431715.

Present Address:Sudhir Bhosale Nivas,Dam
Road,Udgir,Tq.Udgir,Dist.Latur-413517,Maharashtra.


I hope you will provide truth & helpful Information.
Thank You!



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Re: [AI] Subject: Re: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Make a PWD academy of education, training etc catering to all disabled
people in country aided by foreign and national funds. A one stop shop
for all problems. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Umesha
Economics
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:08 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Subject: Re: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

It is clear that most of the government agencies are not providing
suitable 
assistive tools and technology and necessary training. but the question
is 
what to do against them.

Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "R R Patel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 4:33 PM
Subject: [AI] Subject: Re: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


> Dear Friends, hello!
> Yes, it is true that many of our friends are using this forum for 
> discussing books, mobiles and so many other devices which, in my
opinion, 
> are also worthy discussions up to the students' life.
>
> But, so many of our friends were recruited in public sector as well as

> private sector on the basis of their typing and telephone operating 
> ability before 15 or 20 years back. Now, in these sectors, the working

> scenario has drastically changed due to computerisation and, as up to
my 
> knowledge, 95% of our friends are sitting on the duty in their offices

> without work or without useful working.
>
> Friends! in fact, the situation is really painful. to some extent, our

> friends, who are in services, might be having their own fault for the 
> painful situation, but on the whole, let us look at the employers of
our 
> friends. Did the employers think of our friends during computerisation

> period or, also thereafter?
>
> Now, due to competativeness between the public sector and the private 
> sector, each & individual employees' performance is being  looked upon
and 
> due this scenario, our friends are also in the same boat and they have
to 
> sail the same pace by pace. After fifteen years of the
computerisation, 
> the high authorities of the concerned employees are going to provide
them 
> computers and the screen readers etc. without giving them training for

> using the same. But, friends! the five fingers are not equal. many of
the 
> immediate functioneries of the visually impaired employees are
reluctant 
> to provide them user for working on the computers on-line. Each &
every 
> department, wether it is public sector or private sector, has it's
on-line 
> working. So, friends, we have also to think of the same.
>
> Now, the Time has a burning Point for us and we have to pass it to the
new 
> comers in the services and to the high authorities of the public
sectors 
> as well as to the authorities of the private sectors.
>
> I also welcome our friends on this forum to accelerate our thoughts so

> that the useful pressure on the concerned sectors as well as our new 
> comers in the services may be transmitted to an applicable solution.
>
> With regards,
> R. R. Patel.
> Officer,
> Punjab National Bank,
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Re: [AI] how to save battery?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

I love desktop ,how much battery can be saved...

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 4:32 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] how to save battery?

There is an option to dim the brightness.  Does that save any battery?


On 2/26/12, Dinesh  wrote:
> wow!! I'm almost with the same model but so far I couldn't find a
trick to
> turn off the moniter, though. mine is dell inspiron N5010. I've
modified the
> function key in the bios settings to straight away work as f1 f2
instead of
> some other functions which was anoying. but as per turning off the
moniter,
> I was searching all over the net, but still didn't get a remedy. if
you find
> one, kindly send it to my way as well.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Uma VR" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:38 PM
> Subject: [AI] how to save battery?
>
>
>> hi,
>> I am using Dell. the model number is Inspiran n 5110
>> thank you
>>
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Re: [AI] Developing skill sets to become employable

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

I would refer skill set to specialized profession like doctors,
engineers etc. All other skills can be developed while inn service with
education, training and experience.

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:02 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Developing skill sets to become employable

Dear Rajesh

I have changed the subject line.

Once when one is armed with skill sets, one can easily work out
strategies to manage these variables.

It is very important to realise that one would be doing that work for
the rest of the career lifecycle and if that is a burden then it would
far from being enjoyable and it would carry ones minimal attention. One
can't expect excellence in it.

Whereas if the job is something one is looking forward to do one can
derive happiness and enjoyment performing it

It is true, it may not be a easy task, because of disability to convince
potential employers, if one has the realisation upfront, it would be
less frustrating during the job hunt days.

There are numerous examples of those who have decided to build up skill
sets first did manage to get a placement matching their skill sets.
Needless to emphasise, they have excelled in their field and enjoy their
work.

Harish Kotian.

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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Medical examination is done for various jobs and stringent norms are in
place for some jobs. The question arising are:

1. Job actually reserved for VI plus number of vacancies.
2. Whether any person can be disqualified on basis of diabetes or it is
the case of VI only.
3. If disqualified for particular job then some other option can be
offered.

Please gather maximum information via RTI and decide course of action.

THX 
Pankaj  

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu
Sahu
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
diabetes

Hello Mr. Subramani,

According to me, the best way of finding solution to this chaos is to
first ascertain whether physically fit person too can be disqualified
on the basis of diabetes or not.

If this is a universal rule for all categories of candidates then it
should not be related specifically with VI community. In this case, we
may be one of the victims, but not the exclusive one.

Well, I don't have idea about the definition of "fit" applicable to
all for getting selected for Gov. jobs. But this can be easily
obtained through RTI and its finding should determine the next course
of action.

1.  If it is for all, then concentration should be put on discarding
such rules through strong arguments in legal battle. One of such can
be that "if person during service is not thrown out of job due to
diabetes, then why not to appoint with it?"

2.  And, if the rule is specially applied for VI candidate, then I
don't think that it would stand in any court on the basis of
"protection from discrimination".

So, just proceed further and invest energy in setting things right.
In my opinion, life's battle is not won by the support or comradeship
of fellows, its your own determination which brings support and
fellows for sharing success with you.


On 2/27/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
> Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed
the
> said posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast
> whether disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But
after
> due verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Asudani, Rajesh
>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
diabetes
>
>
>   Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for
blind?
>   If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than
> alleged diabetes.
>
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
>   Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
diabetes
>
>   Hi,
>
>   I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
>   appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence
I
>   have changed the subject line.
>
>   First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
>   on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
>   applies to this case.
>   We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground
of
>   such diseases .
>
>   Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has
been
>   disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
>   if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
>   shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.
>
>   You may hear more from legal experts.
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   On 2/18/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
>   > A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
> medical
>   > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
> Southwestern
>   > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard.
From
>   > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification.
The
> person
>   > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from
all.
> This
>   > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
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Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent?

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello all,

One question is if we need to get the scanner serviced as any part in
scanner can be malfunctioning or dust and bad surface make a
difference..

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Salman
Raafay
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:19 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent?

I think the accuracy of scanning document depends upon the quality
scanner somewhere, HP Jet2400 is a basic scanner and may not give as
better result as other better scanners. If you are a partially person
then do scan in kurzweil keeping images enabled, it will be benificial
for you in the situation where unclear text appears, you can see the
image of the page by pressing controll+w.
I am also five year law bachelor degree holder and completed my
masters in international law. I have many law books scanned, if you
need any particular please do let me know. I wll be providing you.

On 2/28/12, Umesha Economics  wrote:
> good afternoon Uma,
> OK, your hardware configuration is sufficient. the resolution is also
ideal.
> but let me know one thing, how do you edit the text after converting
with
> fine reader? because, with fine reader, we can get either of RTF, PDF
or TXT
> outputs as per my knowledge. if you get it in RTF or TXT, you will be
having
> the text but not the images. in that case, you have to look into the
> original printed material for correction. if you get it in PDF, you
get the
> images but not the text and you can not read and edit it. that is why
I
> prefer Kurzweil for scanning purposes. also send the scanned book
without
> correction. but remember you have to send it privately off the list or
> through dropbox or sendspace as the attachments are not allowed in the
list.
>
> Umesha
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Uma VR" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 11:31 AM
> Subject: [AI] how a VI can be independent?
>
>
>> good morning friends,
>> I am using HP scan Z 2400 for scanning and Abby fine reader (10
>> version) for conversion.
>> the configuration of my hard disc is 500 GB with 4GB RAM.
>> the resolution set up is 300, the brightness is 50%
>> if you want, I can send you the copy of scanned images also.
>> thank you in advance
>>
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Re: [AI] main stream

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Just go for school which encourages VI ,no point forcing child in closed
minded school management.

Rgds

Pankaj  

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:53 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] main stream

Mrs. Bhatt,

I understand from your feelings that you had a bad experience while
getting 
your child admit in to a Mainstream School.
Like almost every aspect of our life, we may confront difficulty in the 
mainstream schools too, however, I would not deny the fact that there
are 
many good schools where the Visually Impaired students do get admissions
and 
are well nurtured by the teachers.
I did my schooling from mainstream School and completed 12th in 2001
from 
Delhi. But never got such complain from my School side.
If you are in Delhi, there are plenty of Schools.
In case you are looking for a good school in Delhi for your Son and
still 
facing challenges, do let me know. we will try to refer you some Schools
in 
Deli.

Regards,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message - 
From: "Anjina Bhat" 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:10 PM
Subject: [AI] main stream


Hi again to all of you . This is anjina Mother of visually handi cap
mother . This is burning topic and i can very well imagine how bad and
emabarrassing it is for a mother whose child is being thrown away from
 Main stream school

 I believe that every child has a gift and every child has disability
if we compensate gift with disability we can take best out from them ?
but who cares ? we have big big laws but they are on papers , who
inspects whether they have been followed or not / I believe that it
had become mandatory for schools to keep special educator but who sees
that whether that has been followed or not  you will see
few schools where the special educators are hired rest no one cares
 I am sorry if i am hurting any body sentiments but there are many
organisations who are fighting for this but on practical grounds no
body is fighting for cause . We have big big laws but on papers social
 sensitisation is not there .with  threat of  law you shall get
admission for your child but who sees how he is being treated there
because when social sensitation is not there nothing can be done
... Lot of funds goes to  special schools but if you see their
infra structure it is pathetic  I have a very sorry figure for
this ..
 But as a parent i shall request each parent to please stand up and
fight back , donot stop here donot get disturbed by this . all
children are god gifted and if god has not drawn any line who are we
to draw . please stand up and fight back . lets show that every thing
is possible we can show miracles with our child . every child is
special . lets sensitise this so called bad world
I want to share my example where that i have also struggled lot for my
admission of my son and one so called big school called my name out of
400 parents during interview that  the school is inadequate for
admitting my son . but there answer never disturbed me nor moved or
shaken my confidence , I replied .. if you are inadequate that is
your problem not mine i think you need another 10 yrs  to reach my
sons level so please have confidence dont worry find
solutions . Mothers can move the world , it was thomas Elva edison's
mother"s guts who taught his son at home and made him big scientist
with whose light whole world is lighten so be brave lets togetherly
fight this cause

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Vaishnavi Jayakumar
 wrote:
> dnaindia.com
>
http://www.dnaindia.com/lifestyle/report_kids-with-disabilities-dont-nee
d-no-special-education_1578003
> Published: Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 By *Anu
> Prabhakar
> * | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA
> Kids with disabilities don't need no special education
>
> In 2004, Latika Sargar's dream for her eldest son seemed to fall
apart.
> Sachin, who has mild mental retardation, was thrown out of a
government
> school for repeating a class thrice.
>
> "They asked me to take him to a special school at a far off place in 
> Malad,"
> says Sargar, who lives in a one-room shack in Andheri. "I could not
take 
> him
> there."
>
> Sachin has two younger siblings. "My husband told me we must educate
them,
> and could not afford to educate Sachin," recalls Sargar. They decided
to
> keep the child at home. For three years, Sachin's main tasks involved 
> taking
> care of his siblings, helping out with the household chores or simply
> walking on the streets with hands buried in his pockets, smiling at no
one
> in particular. "I felt very sad. My younger children were studying
well 
> and
> it was my dream to send Sachin to a school, too. But I did not have a
> choice," says Sargar.
>
> *It's a birthright
> *Sayali Masurkar came to Sachin's rescue. Married with kids

Re: [AI] msword question

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Look for import or insert option in menu and just try it. 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of austin
pinto
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:55 PM
To: accessindia; Voice Vision.; access uk
Subject: [AI] msword question

hi all
i use ms word 2010 pro+ i wanted to know how to import images to a word
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Re: [AI] Request forCirculars regarding promotions

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello Friends,

Another point of view is not giving additional tool for authorities to
block the path to promotion for PWD.

Rgds,

Pankaj

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:33 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Request forCirculars regarding promotions

I agree. It's look like disabled being treated as some kind of charity
objects rather than being equal to other government teachers for
promotion. such attitudes require firm resistance indeed!

On 30/08/2011, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>
> Hello All
>
> I am in fact disturbed to see the circular exempting disabled persons
from
> writing departmental tests for promotion.
>
> I have as yet not gone through this circular, however, what is it one
trying
> to achieve out this gesture.
>
> 1 Is it that the disabled unable to clear the basic promotion tests?
> 2 Would he command any respect from his subordinates?
> 3 Would he command any respect from his superiors?
>
> At one hand when we demand equality, then, how can we get elated with
such
> circulars?
>
> In my view this circular needs to be denounced with the same ferver as
one
> opposes provisions that discriminate us and does not respect our
abilities.
>
> Naveen, if I were you, I would certainly go to write the departmental
> promotional tests despite this circular. I would demand reasonable
> accommodation with respect to having a level playing field. I would
also
> encourage your other disabled folks to take this path.
>
>
> Harish Kotian.
>
> From: "padmanabham" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Request forCirculars regarding promotions
> Hello naveen,
> in 2008, the government of andhra pradesh has issued a go excempting
the
> blind persons from passing the departmental tests.  you can download
the
> same from the following link.
>
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2897041/GO%20pertaining%20to%20excemption%20from
%20deptal%20tests.pdf
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Re: [AI] Request forCirculars regarding promotions

[Pankaj Kwatra]

Hello All,

Few points which could be added to discussion:

1. Does VI community is given same work, responsibility and authority as
their colleagues.

2. Whether  the test is mandatory or is the only tool for promotion and
I wonder the content of test paper fully accessible.

3. I have heard promotions on productivity and efficiency and test
necessary only for higher grade or level of management.

RGDS,

Pankaj   

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:34 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Request forCirculars regarding promotions

The problem is the same in all the exams.  We can't ask for exemptions
from exams on the ground that accessible reading material is not
available.  Instead we should  fight for provision of the same in
accessible format.

I totally endorse Harish sir's views.  Exemption for visually
challenged from writing the exams is a very unhealthy practice.

On 8/31/11, naveen kumar  wrote:
> Regarding the comment that u have posted, I contradict that view.
> Because promotion for departmental in government sector has a
> practical aspect attached.
> As it is demonic in nature it's very difficult for us to have material
> in accessible format.
> So we must demand an exemption or any support test instead of it.
> Its not say we are insufficient are inferior.
> There are certain things which are not in our control.
> So we must seriously think once before commenting.
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