Re: [AI] Its 25th Jan today: Kaabil movie review: Hrithik Roshan is out for revenge

[ishita kapoor]

Can’t we think above jaws and talks?
Come on friends it wasn’t documentary. It was commerssial film. So
watch with minimum expaectation.
Personally I liked everything about movie.
In my view they have tried to make the movie as much realistic as
possible keeping in mind that it wasn’t art film.
And rajesh sir the movie is far better as well as realistic than aankhe.


On 1/31/17, Bhupendra Tripathi  wrote:
>  After watching the movie, I  would like to share my thoughts as below.
> Pros:
> 1. It depicts that a blind person can be financially self-reliant,
> live an independent life doing domestic chores like cooking etc.   and
> has regular emotions associated with human beings like love, anger,
> frustration sarcasm, humour etc.
> 2. It shows that blind couples could make a  good match although I
> did not like the statement "two negatives cannot make a  positive" by
> the actress.
> 3. It shows that blind individuals have talents like dancing, playing
> instruments and dubbing/mimicry.
> 4. It shows them leading a  normal lifestyle - looking good, having
> fun, celebrating birthdays, going to Malls and Amusement Parks.
>
> Cons:
> 1. Nowhere in the movie, the use of accessible technologies like
> talking mobile phones or screen reader software in computers are shown
> except the use of "talking wrist watch".
> 2. Without sounding prejudiced, it re-inforces the stereotype that
> blind individuals do not fit well in white-collared jobs and can earn
> a  living by being a  voice artist/singers or playing musical
> instruments etc. The NGO work-profile of the actress could have been
> highlighted.
> 3. to make it more realistic, the blind hero could have been shown to
> have passion for body-building or undergoing physical training
> sessions before taking upon the revenge.
> 4.The blind couple could have shown a  bigger family/friends support
> system. They were shown to be little socially isolated with very
> limited friends both disabled or otherwise  and often left on their
> own even in their grave situations.
> 5. The title of the movie is used to ultimately prove that a  blind
> hero is "kabil" or capable only to take a  revenge  on his own without
> anyone's help.
> 6. The blind females are vulnerable is the message going back in the
> society. In my opinion,the self-defense by girls and quick decision
> making to save one's own life and other such tips  should have been
> shown.
> 7. It was not very clear why the female had to leave the job after the
> marriage and become a  home-maker.
>
>
> Overall, it lost a  golden chance to be more powerful disability-related
> movie.
>
> Regards
>
> Bhupendra Tripathi
> RBI
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>
>
>
> On 1/26/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Just a thought, When will a visually impaired person start using
>> assistive technology according to our dear bollywood?
>>
>> On 1/25/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>> even the dialogues sounded very cliched, from the trailer.
>>>
>>> i wish they'd consult a few members when they decide to represent a
>>> particular group. my observation is that they only try to get the
>>> physical aspects right. such as the eye-movements and expressions,
>>> walking with the cane, etc. but never attempt to get into the mind and
>>> replicate that. it is only the body of the disabled that fascinates
>>> the non-disabled. never the mind. i think that is the root cause of a
>>> lot of issues between the 2 worlds. right from personal relationships
>>> and social attitudes, which extend to artistic representations.
>>>
>>> On 1/25/17, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
 HMMM.
 So, it is more or less amitab robbing a bank in aankhen.
 Useless stuff, me thinks.
 Will watch anyway, but cannot guarantee will stay till the end!!


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 is
 out for revenge

 Watched the trailer. Too much violence!

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 out
 for revenge

 Are you going?
 http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/movie-review/kaabil-movie-review-hrithik-roshan-yami-gautam-rakesh-roshan-star-rating-4489671/
 He is a dubbing artiste, she is a pianist. They are both
 happy-go-lucky with a thirst to live life to the fullest. They are
 both blind too but the way Hrithik Roshan and Yami Gautam play the
 leads of Kaabil, it is more incidental than the central focus of the
 film. It is a

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Writer guidelines

[ishita kapoor]

very true sanjay sir.
1  standard or gred lower scribe rule was really logical.

On 6/19/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> It is not only the UPSC exam being conducted on whole of the earth all
> the time. There are other exams conducted by the government where no
> special centers are designated for visually impaired candidates. To
> count, state public service commission, state judiciary, state higher
> education, state public prosecuting exams, UGC Net and so many exams
> are conducted all the time. Will you demand those stupid people to
> install CCTV cameras everywhere?  Why don't you demand that IBPS,
> those conduct exam using computer system, should provide screenreader
> in their system and get rid of scribe? Because nobody can argue that
> he doesn't know how to operate the computer, because it is necessary
> that the person must have the knowledge of computer to be appointed in
> banks.
>
> My argument is that, don't ask for the moon at least. In all
> examinations special centers can not be created for visually impaired,
> if it is done, it will cause hardships to us only.
>
> We are having legal quibbling by these arguments. the matter is
> simple, what you are demanding, mean to strengthen the invigilation by
> installing cameras etc. and not compromising on the unlimited
> qualification of the scribe, can never be accepted by the government.
>
> On 6/19/15, victor john  wrote:
>> I believe that this is the age of e governance. And the government
>> from 2004 irrespective of which political party is in power is
>> vehementaly promoting it. Now when cat exams can be held online using
>> computers, then why can’t UPSC simply installs few cctv cameras at few
>> centres for the blind. IBPS also hols its banking exams online these
>> days. And online exams require constant supply of electricity. So when
>> the problem of electricity can be resolved effectively while
>> conducting these cat and IBPS exams, then why can’t government arrange
>> the same for UPSC exams? I think that the way logistics are arranged
>> for conducting these exams similarly they should be arranged for UPSC
>> exams. In cat every year more than five lakh students sit for the exam
>> and the exam is held online in single sitting.
>> So lets not fight among ourselves. As of now UPSC or government has
>> not come up with the argument that they will have logistical problems
>> in installing cctv cameras. So lets speak our arguments here and lets
>> not speak on behalf of them.
>> cheers
>>
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Re: [AI] Writer guidelines

[ishita kapoor]

Over qualified scribe should not be allowed in any condition.
If I am going for bank exam I should not be allowed to take graduate scribe.
If we have over qualified scribe I don’t think any kind of strict in
vigilance would work.
Sorry to say but after 2012 many vi have got jobs in bank and other
field with the help of over qualified scribe.


On 6/17/15, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Dear Kanchan
> I am now reffering to point 4: if we have to specifically talk about UPSC,
> we can take a call on education qualification. However, the fallout shall be
> on the general guidelines on scribe. In the past, we had mulled upon various
> cinereous and we came to a conclusion, specifying educational qualification
> would pose detrimental to the interest of the blind candidate. To
> illustrate, consider that accountancy and book keeping is introduced in
> class13, now if we go by the rule the scribe should be junior by at least 1
> year, they would not be aware how to post the entries even though the
> candidate isdictating properly, again, the blind candidate has no idea at
> all how the scribe has gone about. Here, the scribe is not at fault, for he
> has no idea at all how the posting should be made and the blind person has
> to wrongly suffer as a result. This cannot be acceptable by any means.
>
> Technology has been an enabler for blind persons to take up newer avenues
> which was not possible earlier, therefore, the general scribe guidelines
> should factor in all such scenarios.
>
> If we relent to one body, then, other body shall pick it up and we shall be
> on a perpetual loop. Again, any concern that the scribe would superceed the
> answer by the candidate can be encountered by using videography etc. At any
> rate, the number of disabled candidate is not as large to stop UPSC to
> consider it. Video recording is commonly available on all present generation
> mobile phones. It is not a serious issue at all if one is willing to look
> into it.
>
> Again, Braille printer is just like any other printer and UPSC can consider
> to purchase one and not outsource it. These are not real issues at all but
> mere excuse to shirk decision. Paper leakages are not caused by this avenue
> and the commission need to focus on areas where leakages take place and not
> cry foul against disabled persons. UPSC cannot consider itself a supra body
> and it is well with the constitution and laws of the land.
>
> Harish Kotian
>
>
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> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 16 June 2015 18:45
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Writer guidelines
>
> 1. Yes suprevision and invijulation   are our defences .
> 2. On alternate formats there cannot be a compromise.
> It may take a while for the Examining Authorities to conduct exams on
> computers but in due course they must provide this option along with the
> braille option. Of course never forgetting the original scribe route.
> 3. Choosing our own writer should not be compromised.
>
> The above 3 I think we all agree upon.
> 4. I would like you all to consider the issue of writer
> qualifications.Please look at the representations atthe the end of my last
> email.
> Most of you will agree that there is some amount of prompting by scribes
> etc.
> Lets come out with a workable solution so that no honest hardworking VI
> suffers at any exam.
> 5. I am toying with the thought of saying that the vi dont need seperate
> centres but can give exams at the regular centres.This has a plus and a
> minus. Lets see the mood.
> 6. Any other issues?
>
> Therefore 4 above is very importantt.
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>
>> SO Kanchan Ma'm, have you prepared any arguments to be presented
>> before UPSC and other officials in the next meeting?
>>
>> On 6/16/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
>>> If we remain closed on the educational qualification issue, nothing
>>> will work. We will have to reach to a plausible resolution.
>>> We'll have to keep in mind, these guidelines will not only be
>>> applicable on UPSC and SSC, but it will cover all other examination
>>> conducting authorities. Therefore the issue of educational
>>> qualification of the scribe shall always haunt the authorities.
>>> Ok, we can take it other way round, let them fix that qualification
>>> criteria of the scribe in such a way that he shouldn't have passed
>>> the higher degree in the same subject in which the examinee is
>>> appearing.
>>> But it would be difficult to determine in competitive exams, because
>>> these exams have almost all the subjects 

Re: [AI] Rohtak Hariyana: Auto operators start free travel facility for blind

[ishita kapoor]

Friends,
I am always against of such  free services.
But there are large number of visually impaireds who need such service
free of cost. Because they all are not on access india.
I mean to say they don’t have  enough money or ability to earn.
Because they haven’t got proper education.
So if drivers are ready to help them in the name of god then let them take help.
Whenever we will go there we would pay full amount. So they would
understand that all blind persons are not poor.
so let them enjoy this facility.

On 4/11/15, Murmuranjankumar  wrote:
> Friends, its our prestige issue, we need not of mercy; we need of help and
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> for blind
> I personally don't want to hit at Rohtak people, in my view they have
>> begun this function by believing that they are contributing something
>> to the society. although I disagree with such initiative, I respect
>> their interest. thus, I believe that now its our turn to return. as a
>> visually impaired, if I get the opportunity to roam in an around
>> Haryana,
>> I won't opt for Rohtak service. this is the way I can return and tell
>> them that "I don't want your free service." apart from that, I request
>> our employed and affordable members, "stop using concessions during
>> travel." our negligence in paying the full transportation fee alone
>> led to this unwarranted initiative. lets bring some legitimacy to our
>> community, so lets stop claiming concessions in transportation by any
>> means if we are employed and have the affordability.
>> cheers.
>> On 4/10/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> > Any comment?
>> >
>> http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/haryana/community/auto-operators-start-free-travel-facility-for-blind/63784.html
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Re: [AI] Question About Net Banking of Bank Of India

[ishita kapoor]

sorry sir for crossed question. what about net banking of bank of
baroda? is it accessible?

On 11/15/14, HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI  wrote:
> Only diference is you have to click corporate link.
> If you have any difficulty feel free to contact me on mobile no. 9868515124
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> Thanks
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>
>> hai, even i wanted to use net banking of boi for my company's current
>> account. if any one is using it , please guide us.
>> thanks in advance,
>> rajesh parakh
>> - Original Message -
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>> Subject: [AI] Question About Net Banking of Bank Of India
>>
>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>> I want to use Net banking of BOI. It does not run on Internet explorer or
>>>
>>> any other brouzer, It only runs on their Special Brouzer called Star
>>> token.
>>> Does anybody use BOI net banking on the list? Does it supports jaws or
>>> NVDA.
>>> Thanks in advance
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[AI] about online stock broker

[ishita kapoor]

friends,
i have my trading account with angel broking. but their software is
not accessible. i have heard that the trading software of india
infoline is accessible but found their brokerage  littel higher. have
you ever tried rs security, ventura securities or zerodha securitie's
software? if yes then how accessible they are? if no then which one is
the most accessible wich low brokerage?



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[AI] about trading software of angel broking

[ishita kapoor]

Dear friends,
I am in need of your urgent guidance.
Well, I am considering angel broking for my trading account.
I heard that trading software’s of India bulls and India infoline are
accessible. Right now I am trading through icici web based trading
application, which is also accessible.
But charges of icici are quite high. And got better deal from angel broking.
So please share your experience with me.
If you have used or heard about angel’s trading software.



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Re: [AI] Now Avail the Service of Quick Call India!

[ishita kapoor]

i liked the service

On 7/4/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Hi
> Interestingly enough, they create a quick wallet to make your payments
> online, which you can periodically top it up.
>
> Harish Kotian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Amit Bhatt
> Sent: 04 July 2014 15:48
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Now Avail the Service of Quick Call India!
>
> Factually this is not an exclusive service just for the blind, while other
> sighted people can also use this facility.
> The people who cannot surf the net for whatever reason, may use this service
> to get the required information.
> The given number is not toll free, its a paid service and normal call
> charges are applicable on the calls made to it.
>
> I had already had words with one of their representatives.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amit Bhatt
>
>
> On 7/4/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> would they have solution to image capture code? if not, what is the
>> purpose of that quick call number.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gunjan kumari
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 3:22 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Cc: jnuvision
>> Subject: [AI] Now Avail the Service of Quick Call India!
>>
>> Dear list members,
>> Greetings!
>>
>> As my subject line suggests, I would like to share a number, which is
>> meant to facilitate visually challenged people by providing the
>> instant internet browsing help across the country. However, I
>> completely disagree with their assumption that it is difficult for
>> visually challenged to access internet, we can certainly use the
>> facility provided by them without critiquing it... Here goes the
>> information:
>>
>>Quick Call Brings Internet to Visually Impaired
>>
>> We are elated to share with you the establishment of Quick Call which
>> is a free platform for assisted browsing on call..
>>
>> 8459-111-111
>> is a free help desk for information, entertainment & convenience.
>>
>> With your support, Quick Call may prove a boon for the visually
>> impaired and blind.
>>
>> For the visually impaired and blind, surfing the internet has always
>> been a cumbersome experience. Internet has proved to be a great help
>> for everyone around but the blind & visually impaired have always been
>> side-lined. Except a few applications, there is nothing much for blind
>> people to cherish about internet and its utility.
>>
>> To resolve this problem face by the blind and visually impaired
>> community, a new service with the name of Quick Call has been recently
>> launched in India.
>> Quick Call is a platform where anybody can dial
>> 8459-111-111
>> to surf internet on call free of cost.
>>
>> The human operator on the other side surfs and reads the information
>> on internet as per the caller's needs and directions.
>>
>> This may include:
>>
>> list of 1 items
>> Reading news articles, astrology or share market updates Check movie
>> timings, price comparisons, Wikipedia articles & Location help Pay
>> bills & Place online orders Book restaurant tables, Buy movie tickets
>> and much more.
>> 5. Or Ask anything that comes to your mind list end
>>
>> Blind people can now dial
>> 8459-111-111
>> and ask for any query. Now they don't need to depend on specially
>> designed devices, broadband connection, voice applications, sighted
>> friends and more such stuff to surf internet. For everyone, internet
>> is now just a phone call away.
>>
>> We request you to propagate the utility of Quick Call @
>> 8459-111-111
>> to all students in your institution and in other similar institutions
>> across India.
>>
>> Quick Call is a registered company operating from Delhi.
>>
>> To discover more about us, please visit our website www.quickcall.in.
>> We would be glad to hear from you on mail or call.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Team Quick Call
>>
>> Mob:
>> 973021
>>
>> Email:
>> quickcallin...@gmail.com
>>
>> Web:
>> www.quickcall.in
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gunjan Kumari
>> M.Phil Scholar,
>> Centre for English Studies, SLL/CSS
>> JNU, New Delhi - 110067
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

Dear preety madam,
We are enough motivated I guess.
We all have accepted blindness.
We all know what we can do and what we can’t.
We all know what is situation and why.
But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then
optimistic talks
I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work
in banks for visually impaired.
Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc.
But this is not ideal job for us.
There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can’t
rely on  somebody will come and will read out form for us.
We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do
everything mindset.
I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing.
And I am learning from the person like you.
But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good
at everything won’t work in real world.


On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com  wrote:
> Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our
> disability.
> If we are blind, so what?
> Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
> individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Ishita,
>
> Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is
> real bad! We all are  ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time.
> Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset?
> I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept  what we are
> getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as
> they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the
> situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get
> better very very slowly!
>
> If we remain depressed and  angry and disheartened,  where will we find the
> courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation?
> That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together  we
> can do something to make things better
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
> individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature.
> We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly
> thanks to reservation.
> Though we are enough capable.
> There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors.
> But such people can be counted by the tip of finger.
> Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks.
> Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind.
> If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will
> have to make his system  up to the expectation for the blind
> And which is not always easy or possible.
> Only awareness can improve our circumstances
>
>
> On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> I know Avinash,  it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for
>> them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the
>> female
>> blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity
>> of
>> going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I
>> can't even begin to write about their state! It has  torne me apart! The
>> female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind?
>>
>> Therefore, I have decided to at least mak

Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature.
We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly
thanks to reservation.
Though we are enough capable.
There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors.
But such people can be counted by the tip of finger.
Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks.
Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind.
If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will
have to make his system  up to the expectation for the blind
And which is not always easy or possible.
Only awareness can improve our circumstances


On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> I know Avinash,  it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for
> them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the  female
> blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of
> going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I
> can't even begin to write about their state! It has  torne me apart! The
> female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind?
>
> Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I
> can with the limited or should I say no  resources!
> Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something
> somewhere
> will turn up and conditions will begin to improve!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
> individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> You are right sir.
> But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to
> 35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and
> invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal
> has rightly termed: "forgotten youth with disabilities".
> On 7/3/14, George Abraham  wrote:
>> Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education
> and
>> high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
>> individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed
>> and dwelled upon in detail.
>> So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious
>> consideration for me at least.
>>
>> As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to
>> the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out
>>  of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total
>>  number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on
>>  January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December)
>>
> (http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs-
>> but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/).
>> Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on
>> India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed
>> with publick sector undertakings,  the biggest share has gone to
>> persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from
>> unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are
>> identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise
>> where are blind people stand today.
>>
>> Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on
>> private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal
>> dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have
>> accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of
>> a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English
>> accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and
>> Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population

Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

[ishita kapoor]

ing to this thread
> daily, but, nobody bother
> to correct the subject line (means its language and content correctness). I
> corrected the matter of the subject line and hope this corrected line will
> continue..
>
> About this issue, I presume, Man/woman is not himself/herself independent to
> take decision. As we all know, marriage is not an individual issue rather it
> is a social one.
>
> When this marriage age comes, lot of considerations play their role. like,
> parent concern, social environment, self-comfort, self-ease, long-term
> successful and loving relationship with partner as wel as with family. My
> point is that marriage is not just an emotional decision but it is also a
> rational, practical and irreversable(in normal condition) decision.
>
> Its true, emotions, love has its prominent place. And, I don't think any
> reason not to marry with visually-disable person, if a visually-impaired
> individual loves to other visually-impaired person. It all depends on
> circumstances and conditions.
>
> It is always a wise way to have win-win situation, when both persons feel
> themselves in winning situation.
>
> Sandeep
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Preeti Monga 
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.' 
> Sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:14:03 +0530 (IST)
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my  quriyocity  are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Prashant,
> Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
> Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
> meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
> Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing
> factor going!
> It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
> are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
> have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
> because of their disabiity.
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Prashant Verma
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia. in
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
> on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
> views.
>
>
>
> Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
> about what should be the ideal scenario.
>
>
>
> The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
> willing to marry any visually impaired at all.
>
> If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
> to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
> have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
> sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
> Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.
>
>
>
> I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
> root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
> want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.
>
>
>
> What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
> partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
> impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.
>
>
>
> When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
> caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.
>
>
>
> I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
> around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
> marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually

Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

Dear samir sir,
First of all congrats.
Well, I never wanted to say that no blind is working or can’t work in
private sector.
There may be few lucky people like you who got such handsome salary.
I also working with international call centre and was earning fine.
Though I have left that job myself. But I joined that cc as a non
disable. But if I ask another call centre to give me employment as a
blind individual I would not get job easily, it doesn’t mean that I
won’t get. But would face difficulty in convincing them
I have learnt through mailing lists that blind persons are equally talented.
But you will have to agree that very few people get proper job in
private sector.


On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like
> Microsoft and LPTI  and other companies with salaries going into lacs!
> So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are
> blind,
> but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve
> great hights!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Sameer
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM
> To: Access India
> Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals -
> Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
> Dear Ishita,
>
> I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
> completely
>
> blind & will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other
> partially & completely blind people working with the Reliance group in
> Mumbai.
>
> Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the
>
> salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability &
> qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the
> private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is
> not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind
> employees adequately.
>
> I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind
> individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind
> individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their
> sighted
>
> counterparts.
>
> Regards
> Mr. Sameer Latey,
> Mumbai, India
>
>
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in marryingblind partners

[ishita kapoor]

very true bhavani sir.
if they can earn 60 to 7 per month i am sure they can have the best life.
though how much we need to spend good life that is subjective.

On 7/2/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> unfortunately, so called sighted and educated couples also engage tutor for
>
> their children. where they are doing their homework and reading writing.
> secondly, now these days most of the education system has shifted towards
> digitisation. If me and you can write a mail to accessindia, then a blind
> couple can learn computers and educate them. the culture of amusement parks
>
> still awaited in small cities of india. this culture is suitable in metro
> cities. the married couple whether sighted or blind often stay with their
> one or more relative, why the blind couple can not stay with their sighted
> relative? Even a sighted house wife requires a kaam waali baai, then why it
>
> is not applicable for blind? sighted house wives are just watching tv and
> passing the time ideally at home, why they don't do all their business at
> home?
> however, I am a strong opinion that in case of blind, both husband and wife
>
> should be an earning partner. this will subsidise their disadvantages due to
>
> blindness. if one of them is not earning, then it will increase the
> expenditure, because we have to pay for each and every services.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Amar Jain" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in
> marryingblind partners
>
>
>> @Rajesh Sir: Noted with thanks.
>>
>> @Bhawani Sir: somehow I skipped your reply. I get what you are saying.
>> Lets not talk of the higher studies. Would be happy   to understand,
>> with a simple illustration like this.
>>
>> I am blind and you are sighted. May be we are equal in terms of
>> education. You can help your child progress at a very young age.
>>
>> Examples could be proper hand writing, well maintained body language,
>> helping child with the home work, projects (which even sighted people
>> find challenging now a days due to the increasing educational
>> competition), fansy dress competition, eating etiquettes, drawing,
>> etc. etc.
>>
>> You could play with your kid in amusement parks and let him do
>> whatever he wants. Whereas I may not be able to take part into certain
>> activities.
>>
>> You can see and safeguard your kid in a park even if he is playing
>> against your will. I cannot do so unless he gets hurt because there is
>> no way for me to see as to what is it that he is doing and whether it
>> is fine for him to do at this young age or not. I can simply be
>> worried and be hopeful that all goes well.
>>
>> In such a case, is there anything specific we as individuals could do
>> to make sure that there is a good connect between you and your
>> children or the answer is that the children develop that understanding
>> slowly in life?
>>
>> Now if I am blind and my spouce is blind, what are the solutions which
>> people adopt?
>>
>> To my mind the answer could be either that you depend on the support
>> of teachers (assuming that even they take the pain as if it was their
>> own kid), or you depend on your family members who are non-blind.
>>
>> That is one of the major challenge which I feel a blind couple can be
>> confronted with. And I want to understand based on the personal
>> experiences of the members the ways to tackle with the same.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Amar Jain.
>> Website: www.amarjain.com
>>
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Dear Prashant,
> Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
> Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
> meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
> Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
> socializing
> factor going!
> It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
> are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
> have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
> because of their disabiity.
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Prashant Verma
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia. in
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
> on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
> views.
>
>
>
> Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
> about what should be the ideal scenario.
>
>
>
> The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
> willing to marry any visually impaired at all.
>
> If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
> to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
> have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
> sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
> Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.
>
>
>
> I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
> root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
> want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.
>
>
>
> What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
> partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
> impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.
>
>
>
> When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
> caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.
>
>
>
> I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
> around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
> marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners.
> Finally
> they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen
> to be more open minded and accommodating.
>
>
>
> It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
> non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
> time will increase chances of finding partners.
>
>
>
> I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
>
> Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10
>
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

this is problem with scholars.
they know everything and they can say everything

On 7/2/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
> I think we all beg to be loved, caressed and respected... Aren't we?...
>
> And If I simply put it, in India the weight attached and feelings
> associated with girlfriend/boyfriend, marriage, love, wife, husband
> and dchildren can make anybody beggar at times. Sociology of human
> heart is very tricky to understand,you know. Where is that guy who
> started this thread? Could you please wind up with your final comment,
> please?
>
>
> On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
>> dear bhavani sir.
>> those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
>> backward sighted boy easily.
>>
>> On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
>>> To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
>>> only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
>>> anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
>>> to live willingly with the person with disability.
>>>
>>> I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
>>> Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
>>> it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
>>> blind person.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>>>> Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
>>>> However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
>>>> whole
>>>> thing defeats the very purpose.
>>>> Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
>>>> may...
>>>>
>>>> If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Preeti Monga
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning
>>>> the disabled.'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>>
>>>> Dear  Ishita,
>>>>
>>>> one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving
>>>> people
>>>> a
>>>> choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to
>>>> do
>>>> is,
>>>> keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of
>>>> being
>>>> contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by
>>>> and
>>>> admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
>>>> to
>>>> come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
>>>> too
>>>> face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
>>>> something
>>>> that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
>>>> compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
>>>> others
>>>> are saying or thinking about me'?
>>>> If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
>>>> never
>>>> live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
>>>> members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
>>>> anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
>>>> home
>>>> at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead
>>>> of
>>>> having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So
>>>> come
>>>> on,
>>>> every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
>>>> mean
>>>> that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
>>>> only
>>>> live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will
>>>> never
>>>> happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
>>>> change for each one of us.
>>>> Preeti
>>>>
>>>> Preeti Monga
>>>> Director
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>>>> Landline: 011 22781446
>>>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>>>> Website: www.silver-lin

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in marrying blind partners

[ishita kapoor]

@amar You are just thinking of children.
But if I am blind and if I marry sighted person in that case we both
will have to lose a lot
I will have to compromise with his education, social status or earning.
If he is well educated, socially perfect and economically sound then
he won’t accept me rather he won’t have any reason to accept me.
At the same time he will always remember that he had to marry me
because I had nice job or he couldn’t find proper girl in able bodied
society.
And if I marry with blind person and if we both are totally blind then
we can bring our children properly if we have proper income
For education we can hire personal teacher.
For mobility we can keep full time driver.
In that case also we may face difficulties but it would be 1000 times
better then compromise.


On 7/2/14, Amar Jain  wrote:
> @Rajesh Sir: Noted with thanks.
>
> @Bhawani Sir: somehow I skipped your reply. I get what you are saying.
> Lets not talk of the higher studies. Would be happy   to understand,
> with a simple illustration like this.
>
> I am blind and you are sighted. May be we are equal in terms of
> education. You can help your child progress at a very young age.
>
> Examples could be proper hand writing, well maintained body language,
> helping child with the home work, projects (which even sighted people
> find challenging now a days due to the increasing educational
> competition), fansy dress competition, eating etiquettes, drawing,
> etc. etc.
>
> You could play with your kid in amusement parks and let him do
> whatever he wants. Whereas I may not be able to take part into certain
> activities.
>
> You can see and safeguard your kid in a park even if he is playing
> against your will. I cannot do so unless he gets hurt because there is
> no way for me to see as to what is it that he is doing and whether it
> is fine for him to do at this young age or not. I can simply be
> worried and be hopeful that all goes well.
>
>  In such a case, is there anything specific we as individuals could do
> to make sure that there is a good connect between you and your
> children or the answer is that the children develop that understanding
> slowly in life?
>
> Now if I am blind and my spouce is blind, what are the solutions which
> people adopt?
>
> To my mind the answer could be either that you depend on the support
> of teachers (assuming that even they take the pain as if it was their
> own kid), or you depend on your family members who are non-blind.
>
> That is one of the major challenge which I feel a blind couple can be
> confronted with. And I want to understand based on the personal
> experiences of the members the ways to tackle with the same.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Amar Jain.
> Website: www.amarjain.com
>
>
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normal people interested in marrying blind partners

[ishita kapoor]

@amar,
Less possible change can be considered as exception.
And exceptions are everywhere.
i have just expressed my views. it doesn't mean i am not positive person.
in fact i am realistic.
That is why I believe that we can do lots of things but still we are
becharas somewhere.

On 7/2/14, Amar Jain  wrote:
> @Rajesh Sir: too harsh to classify ourselves as beggers. If someone is
> able to accept you with your disability for a life-long relationship,
> and otherwise you are at par with others in terms of education,
> finance, and otherwise,then where does begging come into the picture?
>
> @Ishita:I can understand your situation. You are at a stage where the
> little vision also matters for anyone in that circumstance.
>
> I do not completely disagree with your views; but what I would only
> say that don't keep this thought as a harsh bottem line. Thereby you
> will be closing your mind for a change which is not impossible to
> happen though howsoever less possible it may be.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Amar Jain.
> Website: www.amarjain.com
>
>
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

dear bhavani sir.
those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
backward sighted boy easily.

On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
> To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
> only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
> anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
> to live willingly with the person with disability.
>
> I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
> Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
> it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
> blind person.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
>> However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
>> whole
>> thing defeats the very purpose.
>> Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
>> may...
>>
>> If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Preeti Monga
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Dear  Ishita,
>>
>> one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people
>> a
>> choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do
>> is,
>> keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being
>> contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and
>> admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
>> to
>> come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
>> too
>> face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
>> something
>> that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
>> compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
>> others
>> are saying or thinking about me'?
>> If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
>> never
>> live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
>> members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
>> anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
>> home
>> at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of
>> having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come
>> on,
>> every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
>> mean
>> that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
>> only
>> live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will never
>> happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
>> change for each one of us.
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
>> Corporate
>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of ishita kapoor
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Dear preety madam,
>> I can understand through your real example that marriage between
>> disable and non disable is not always disastrous
>> But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
>> If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
>> accept blind person?
>> Madam, this isn’t question of Ind

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
to live willingly with the person with disability.

I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
blind person.


On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
> However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole
> thing defeats the very purpose.
> Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
> may...
>
> If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear  Ishita,
>
> one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a
> choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is,
> keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being
> contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and
> admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to
> come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too
> face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something
> that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
> compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what others
> are saying or thinking about me'?
> If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never
> live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
> members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
> anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home
> at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of
> having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on,
> every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean
> that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only
> live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will never
> happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
> change for each one of us.
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear preety madam,
> I can understand through your real example that marriage between
> disable and non disable is not always disastrous
> But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
> If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
> accept blind person?
> Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
> Blindness is big problem.
> Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
> Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
> will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
> If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
> done really great job.
> If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
> se nahi kar paai.
> Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
> People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
> blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
> life pa

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

We can charm the world with our personality.
But a able bodied person has right to choose equal life partner and we
can’t take away this right by just motivating ourself.
eye plays important part in over all personality.
and it plays bigger role in marriage market.

On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
> Dear preety madam,
> I can understand through your real example that marriage between
> disable and non disable is not always disastrous
> But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
> If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
> accept blind person?
> Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
> Blindness is big problem.
> Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
> Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
> will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
> If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
> done really great job.
> If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
> se nahi kar paai.
> Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
> People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
> blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
> life partner.
> Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi
> only.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all
>> doing
>> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
>> towards ourselves as beggers!
>>
>> Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
>> first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we
>> going
>> to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
>> referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
>> beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
>> ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
>> ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to
>> do
>> this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
>> differently? The world perceives you  in the same way that you look at
>> yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we
>> are
>> choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way
>> we
>> get  treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what
>> you
>> will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by
>> conditioning.
>>
>> Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have
>> equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the
>> best
>> of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
>> Warmly
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
>> Corporate
>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Well said Ishita.
>> Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
>> compromise are rare..
>>
>> Please remember beggars are not choosers
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of ishita kapoor
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> no

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only.


On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing
> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
> towards ourselves as beggers!
>
> Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
> first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going
> to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
> referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
> beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
> ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
> ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do
> this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
> differently? The world perceives you  in the same way that you look at
> yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are
> choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we
> get  treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you
> will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by
> conditioning.
>
> Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have
> equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best
> of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Well said Ishita.
> Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
> compromise are rare..
>
> Please remember beggars are not choosers
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
> Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
> I have 40 percent vision.
> And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
> dream unless he has social or economical problems.
> In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
> any girl in able bodied world,
> Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
> Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
> Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
> And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
> Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
> aspects
> I 

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

[ishita kapoor]

dear kanchan madam,
osama bin laden  didn't have blind parents.
You have generalized simple coincidence

On 7/2/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> same is applicable on sighted parents.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Amar Jain
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:30 AM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
>
> partners
>
> My idea of asking was never to convey that all parents who are blind
> their children would become criminal.
>
> I just wanted to understand as too how do parents with blindness deal
> with such challenges. I have also seen cases where because of
> blindness one parent is considered less important in house after a
> point of time.
>
> And I have also seen cases where both blind parents have not been able
> to give adequate education to their children. But of course, that is
> not to say that all do the same.
>
> So if you and others can come out of their instant emotional
> reactions, then I can get a proper answer. The idea is not to defame
> anyone. Its just to understand the technicalities.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Amar Jain.
> Website: www.amarjain.com
>
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

very true rajesh sir,
compromise or rare.
you summed up properly which i couldn't

On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Well said Ishita.
> Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
> compromise are rare..
>
> Please remember beggars are not choosers
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
> Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
> valid.
> I have 40 percent vision.
> And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
> dream unless he has social or economical problems.
> In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
> any girl in able bodied world,
> Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
> Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
> Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
> And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
> Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
> aspects
> I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
> The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
> And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
> saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
> to tariff kar saku.
> I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
> youngsters that please don’t do this.
> Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
> ya chahti hun.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> You are very right!
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
>> Corporate
>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Zoher Kheriwala
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
>> blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
>> to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
>> sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
>> other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
>> related to our blindness.
>> Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
>> have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
>> in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
>> are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
>> of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
>> quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
>> if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
>> show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
>> Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
>> successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
>> I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
>> because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
>> in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
>> blindness.
>> When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
>> ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
>> of blind partner.
>>
>>
>> On 7

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or economical problems.
In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
any girl in able bodied world,
Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects
I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
to tariff kar saku.
I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
youngsters that please don’t do this.
Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
ya chahti hun.


On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> You are very right!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Zoher Kheriwala
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
> blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
> to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
> sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
> other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
> related to our blindness.
> Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
> have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
> in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
> are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
> of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
> quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
> if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
> show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
> Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
> successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
> I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
> because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
> in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
> blindness.
> When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
> ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
> of blind partner.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
>> Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some
>> "self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A
>> person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide
>> emotional
>> support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
>> equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
>> with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access
>> India.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
>> Of bhawani shankar verma
>> Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> "Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status.
>> Such
>> friendships will never give you any happiness."
>>- Chanakya
>>
>> "There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no
>> friendship
>> without self-interests. This is a bitter truth."
>>- Chanakya
>>
>> both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is
> a
>> soci

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

Hi nikita,
Yes you are right; we can touch clothes of our friends.
But in office?
Can I ask my manager or other person working with my institute that:
are sir ya madam log apke kapdo ki kafi tariff kar rahe hai muje chhu
lene do to mai bhi tariff kar sakun?
Of course not.
Here my point is: why a non disable decide to marry blind person?
In my view if he or she doesn’t get proper match or you are earning
handsomely then only he or she will think to accept us as life
partner.
I know that the picture is not as gloomy as it appears in my mail. At
the same time it is not as real as your mails.
We have limititation and noone wants kamzor life partner.
We may get rather we can easily get non disable friends.
But a non disable will never accept us as life partner without solid majburi.


On 7/1/14, Nikita Vaid  wrote:
> Ishita,
> I understand your concern. But let me tell you that  the picture is not all
> that gloomy.
> If you are good friends with some one especially  in the same gender, then
> why will some one not let you get a feel of or describe his or her clothes
> etc. there is no questions of being over  confident or hyper active, this
> will anyways not help it..
> yes I agree that especially in the arrange marriages its difficult but not
> impossible jus because of blindness. A lot however also depends on luck. Why
> do we as blind persons have a tendency to remain so different / isolated
> from others in our general social live? Is in it that we assume a lot of
> things - especially negative ones on our own?
>
> Can we just try and change our own outlook to ourselves at least?
>
> Thanks and warm Regards,
> Nikita V. Raut,
> Senior Manager [HR]
> Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:33 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> How idealistic talking going on?
> I can't ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
> her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
> hiper active.
> If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
> to accept blind life partner willingly.
> Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
> Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
> When a non disable doesn't get proper match in his world then only he
> or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
> nothing.
> I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.
>
>
> On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:
>> 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it
>> in
>> two blog posts
>>
>> George
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Preeti Monga
>> Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
>> marryingblindpartners
>>
>> How many words? Will take me a few days though.
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of George Abraham
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
>> marryingblindpartners
>>
>> Hey Preeti,
>>
>> Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a
>> blog
>

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

How idealistic talking going on?
I can’t ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
hiper active.
If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
to accept blind life partner willingly.
Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
When a non disable doesn’t get proper match in his world then only he
or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
nothing.
I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.


On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:
> 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it in
> two blog posts
>
> George
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> How many words? Will take me a few days though.
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
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> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> Hey Preeti,
>
> Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a blog
> post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
> but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have made
> the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
> bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth... how are her/his eating
> habits... and the other daily habits and what can tip off the bad temper
> switch... all these things are not found out for certain till you begin
> living together like husband and wife!
> So there is a great deal of adjustment, and if you really have chosen the
> spouce with  matching values, you may be in good luck for a lasting
> relationship... a happy one!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
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> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
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> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Zoher Kheriwala
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:50 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> I remember of my childhood story, I use to get 10 rs. To spent every
> day. After buying Panipuri with that money I use to think I should
> have bought bhel instead.
> The point I want to make that whatever you want to decide for your
> marrege  you should be sure that whatever you are choosing should be
> best for you and make sure that your partner should also think that
> you are the best possible choice. So both of the partners can live
> happyly. The relation based on
> compromise and pressure may or may not last long, but 1 thing is sure
> that, It will not urn happiness to any of them.
> In the jurny of

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested inmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

First of all, I am against of playing such a big gamble with my life.
I really don’t believe that a non disable can willingly marry a disable person.
If he or she doesn’t get proper match in non disable world then only
he or she will consider disable partner.
Or if a the non disable is poor or uneducated and disable earns
handsomely then the possibility of acceptance is there.
Though exceptions must be there.
After all marriage is question of entire life which has nothing to do
with charity.
i am failed to understand why we all are eager to marry non disable?
my father won't allow my sighted, smart and educated brother to marry
a blind girl willingly  even my brother will not think in his dream to
marry blind girl.
so please accept reality and enjoy life.

On 6/27/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> Don't be anxious. Play the game. You've the chance to win.
>
> On 6/27/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> ofcourse it is a gamble.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ravindra Jadhav
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:47 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested
>> inmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> means marage is one type of gamble and about life patner?
>> Now really I am very ancious what will happen in my future.
>>
>> On 6/27/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>> also take note that you can't throw this lottery ticket even if you lose
>>> it!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Neeraj Singh
>>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:15 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
>>> marryingblindpartners
>>>
>>> vary good example sir. Regards. Neeraj singh music teacher jnv .
>>> Mobile 09630305273
>>>
>>> On 6/27/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
 nobody can guarantee of a successfull married life. take it like a
 lottery
 ticket. If you would get good partner you are luckey, otherwise you
 will
 become a philosopher! smile!

 - Original Message -
 From: "Radha" 
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled." 
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblind

 partners


> Preeti mam,
>
> Inspiring words of yours, provoking to fetch a  amazing life partner.
> You've  defined the real value of life and  relationship, that we can
> trust for our entire life.
> I  strongly believe the statements, we get what we give to this
> worldin any relationship. It is really awesome to get a  friend as
> our life partner and want to hold a  friendly partner.
> I  must say, the person who miss you is a  great loser  in his life,
> dear mam, isn't it?
> Many thanks, indeed, please contribute for our life road path.
>
> On 6/26/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> Interestingly it is irrelevant alright! The only thing is that
>> sighted
>> people  are not conditioned to marry us blind people. The idea sounds
>> crazy
>> to them! And interestingly blind people want only to marry them
>> sighted
>> people! This kind of marriage is a marriage of  convenience! But,
>> usually
>> these kind of marriages do not last... and if they do... they are
>> only
>> being
>> pulled along because parting ways is not liked  by society! As you
>> may
>> know,
>> I married twice and both my husbands are sighted! No I don't live
>> with
>> them
>> both! I had to leave the first one for the compatibility was
>> missing...
>> and
>> I did not know it till I began to live with him after we were
>> married.
>> But
>> the second time over, everything in our marriage is  not as it should
>> be...
>> my husband is ten years younger, sighted, his first marriage and
>> belongs
>>
>> to
>> a different class and cast! But, we have had seventeen years of a
>> great
>> partnership and friendship! Now don't tell me that this is one of its
>> kind
>> of case... for most of us are scared to be honest even to ourselves.
>> If
>> we
>> make a mistake,  we lack the courage to stop making the mistake and
>> get
>> away
>> from it! We just keep living the mistake for  making the correction
>> and
>> trying again is not welcome by society and family! What a waste of
>> life?
>> One
>> only lives once and let us face the facts. Let us look for good human
>> beings
>> and not try to match requirements just as we do when we go shopping!
>> For
>> being single is much better than to live in a marriage with the wrong
>> partner. He/she may not be good with you, but may just be the right
>> one
>

Re: [AI] Download SBI PO call letter

[ishita kapoor]

hello sir, what is scribe guideline?

On 5/29/14, Yogesh Chhabra  wrote:
> download SBI PO call letter from the link below.
> http://ibpsreg.sifyitest.com/sbipoofmay14/login.php?appid=c134alqasaeiqsdindwe
>
> warm regards,
> yogesh chhabra
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Re: [AI] objection on commentary of Navjot Singh Siddhu in IPL on Satmax

[ishita kapoor]

Thank you sir for posting this.
Even I also got hurt by listening that commentary.
There were another person with siddhu  also there who barked badly
regarding blind.
I don’t remember his name, he may be gaurav kapoor or ayaz.
If they could have said about minority or sc people could have killed them.
But they insulted disable so no objection.
I am not in position to do anything so I attribute all uncultured
abuses to both of them.
Though I love to listen siddhu but this was to much.
I hope somebody will take action against both of them from this mailing list.


On 5/9/14, sandeepgau...@ntpc.co.in  wrote:
> Dear friends,
> I am listening commentary of IPL 2014 on satmax since its inception.
>
> As you all aware, Navjot Singh Siddhu (one of the hindi commentator) use
> words like andha, behra, goonga, langda, loola in connection with insulting
> comparison.
> Its very embarrasing for a handicap person while listening commentary with
> his/her family members.
>
> for instance: he yesterday said like,
> andha kya jaane sone (gold) ka rang (colour or like that).
> Not only it create embarrasment, but it also spreads very cheap source of
> outlook among society towards all handicap persons.
> Entertainment does not mean, whatever is coming in your mouth, you will spit
> it out.
>
> I notice one more thing, most of his lines of poems or so called idioms are
> his own made (means not extracting from literature)
>
> My opinion is that he should get legal notice from CCPD or some court
> immediately so he should stop using categories of handicap community in his
> cheap lines of poems or idioms.
>
> There are so many other hindi commentators in IPL 2014 like, Ajay Jadeja,
> Chetan Sharma, Wakar Yunus etc. who never use such cheap language in their
> commentary.
>
> If I am right, pls tell me the way by which he can get legal notice
> immediately so that he can be stopped for using such cheap comparison rest
> of IPl 2014.
>
> Regards
>
> Sandeep
>
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Re: [AI] Help needed from friends in Gujarat for an arti cle

[ishita kapoor]

What Gujarat government has done and what not can be debated.
But we can’t cast our vote on the base of it.
Or you can’t change voter’s mind by posting this subject.
We are citizen of India first. Then we are
blind/shahi/kapoor/poor/muslims/gujarati/madrasi.
Our vote should be for over all India.
I am not diverting the subject but writing by understanding the real
intention behind this post.
Pamnani madam has shared beautiful thoughts so no need to write down it again.


On 4/29/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Humans have limitations and act depending on
> their circumstances. A forthright denial, however, is a thousand times
> better than keeping people on false promises.
>
> We all are friends and it would be good if we find any ten reasons behind a
> disagreeable behaviour of our friend. But you can disagree and do what
> generally people do. Good luck for IAS!
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 28-Apr-2014, at 4:55 pm, bala9119
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I feel astonished to read about agitation. if we are calling for
>> agitation, we must have had the concern to assist the agitators to
>> agitate instead of attracting the attention by calling others to
>> agitate. after hearing that blind issues could make a blind fedup, i
>> wonder that, are the powerful blind powerless to blind? this is not
>> only from the few, we have approached many including a person from the
>> bureaucracy, Mr. Ravi prasad IAS to talk about the issue. as soon as
>> he heard we are the persons with visual challenges, he has cut the
>> call and repeated tries from our side received no result but failure.
>> you people may not be interested to talk or to project yourself as
>> blind because you are in a good standard of living, but a polite way
>> of repudiation would have made us to feel that we have spoken to a
>> powerful blind who can represent the visually challenged community and
>> pave a way for the needy in the society. unfortunately, these 2
>> responses, one from the solicitor and the next from the bureaucrat
>> created a different perception that is far from being innocuous.
>> thank you.
>> --
>> "It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do with
>> what we have."
>>
>> With Sincere Regards
>>
>> Balanagendran. D
>> IAS Aspirant
>> Skype: balanagendran
>> Twitter:
>> http://twitter.com/balanagendran89
>>
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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

[ishita kapoor]

hello shireen,,
i was talking about roland e09 in, not e09.
e09 in has more indian instruments. and tones of that keyboard are
switter and more professional in compare to old e09.

On 3/14/14, TS Negi  wrote:
> Thank yoou very much sir.
>
> --
> From: "Shireen Irani" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:12 PM
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard
>
>> hi,
>>
>> 1st, please note, that all fully professional key-bords are priced
>> above 5. so the range u are looking at, are the semi-professional
>> ones, which are also not bad, but it all depends on your requirements
>> and what is your idea of professional.
>> if you want it for bolliwood live shows, then yes, the roland e09 is
>> quite good, and u could also look at the corg P A 50.
>> if u want 1 for programming, or western music, then you will have to
>> invest a bit more.
>> its best to go to a show room that has all varieties, and c what suits
>> your needs best.
>>
>> if you want, once you have done that and narrowed down to 2 or 3
>> keybords, then you could perhaps write to me off list, and i'll help u
>> select the best from them.
>>
>> hope that helps,
>> best,
>> shireen.
>>
>> On 3/13/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>>> Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not beyond
>>> 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
>>> Thank you
>>> Regards
>>> TS Negi
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Re: [AI] Blind RJ spins tune of inspiration!!!!!

[ishita kapoor]

I am not trying to target anyone.
But this story is not impressive at all.
I have seen many blind girls and boys who have achieved a lot then this girl.
I couldn't find anything in this story, which is called impressive.


On 3/15/14, rohit gowlikar  wrote:
> On 3/15/14, timy sebastian  wrote:
>>
>>   Blind RJ spins tune of inspiration
>>
>> Mar 15, 2014, 03.39AM IST TNN[ Ragini Bharadwaj ]
>>
>> AHMEDABAD: Kalgi Raval, 18, is completely blind but she more than makes
>> up for her disability with her boundless confidence and dedication. She
>> dropped out of a mainstream school after Class 5. She wanted to appear
>> in the board examinations as an open school candidate but, for that, she
>> had to be 18 years old. On Thursday, Kalgi's wish was finally fulfilled
>> when she appeared in the first SSC paper.
>>
>> Kalgi is no ordinary blind girl. She is a trained radio jockey and works
>> at the Gujarat University (GU) radio station. Last year, she was the
>> compere for the `Chalo Gujarat' event. She aims to start a band of five
>> blind girls and give performances, the proceeds of which will be used to
>> fund education of girls in rural areas with the same disability. "In
>> cities, parents are aware but in villages blind girls are seen as a
>> liability. I wish to fund education of girls who want to study so that
>> they can be independent," said Kalgi.
>>
>> She has spent long hours studying for the board exams. She was coached
>> personally by teachers of the HB Kapadia School. Earlier, she had become
>> disheartened when she found that there wasn't much study material
>> available as audio books or in Braille script.
>>
>> She then approached the authorities of HB Kapadia School who responded
>> positively to Kalgi's request for help. She was supported by teachers
>> Gursimram Kaur and Vijaylaxmi Pandit who read out the science textbook
>> to her for two hours daily and taught her by drawing diagrams on her
>> palms. Teachers Ishita Patel and Khushnuma Solai taught her social
>> studies.
>>
>> The teachers said that Kalgi is a powerhouse of energy and her
>> willingness to study had encouraged them to spend time teaching her
>> after school hours.
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

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you may consider roland e09 in.

On 3/13/14, TS Negi  wrote:
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> 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
> Thank you
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Re: [AI] doubt regarding accessible mobile phone:

[ishita kapoor]

very true  mahesh sir,

On 2/16/14, Mahesh S. Panicker  wrote:
> With Android, when you use TalkBack, you have to doubletap to click
> something. So it is unlikely that you would click something by
> accident just by exploring the screen.
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> On 2/15/14, srinivas bangalore_11  wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> Hope you are all doing good.
>>
>> Few days ago, I posted an query regarding accessible mobile phone with
>> screen reader but not nokia.
>> Fortunately, I got good response from this forum.
>>
>> When I went to buy phone on last sunday, one person asked a trickey
>> question.
>> Actually, he is sighted person and he is working in android showroom.
>> Since we know each other, he asked me "When we open various websites
>> like gmail or youtube, there will be some advertisements comes before
>> that websites. even I also observed this in my laptop also. Since it
>> is touch pad, if we click by mistake, we need to pay a lot for that.
>> And first time I am using these kind of phones. "
>>
>> Can anyone guide me in this regard as well?
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Srinivas MVLES
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Re: [AI] Valentine special: Is disability really a barrier to love?

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great writing

On 2/14/14, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> The story is just fantastic! It seems part of our life to face such
> incidents while looking for a companion!!
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Mujeeb
>
> On 2/14/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Interesting read, published today so I thought why not to circulate.
>> By Malavika Santhebennur Ramp Up 14 Feb 2014  A Valentine's lesson:
>> someone who loves you for who you are is someone worth being with.
>> Credit: pcatalin (iStockphoto)
>> http://www.abc.net.au/rampup/articles/2014/02/14/3943912.htm
>> With her family's cultural values, Malavika Santhebennur was happy for
>> her parents to play match maker and help find her a husband. But she
>> was disappointed to find that even with their help, sometimes
>> prejudice against disability is no match for love.
>>
>> Happy Valentine's Day!
>>
>> Also, happy Singles Appreciation Day!
>>
>> As I plough through my 20s, I see friends and family enter
>> relationships, marriage, even parenthood.
>>
>> I'm 26 years old and was born in India. I am at what they call in my
>> culture 'a marriageable age'. I want to get married, so being of
>> marriageable age isn't a problem. That is not to say, however, that
>> I'm sitting by the window waiting for my Prince Charming to sweep me
>> off my feet. Being a full-time journalist at a financial publication,
>> socialising, travelling, and belting out (bad) karaoke numbers every
>> now and then gives me plenty to do.
>>
>> I also have mild cerebral palsy. 'Vanilla' might describe it. Yet the
>> social impacts of this disability have not quite been vanilla.
>>
>> My mother faced a lot of difficulty delivering me and the doctor had
>> to use forceps. My first cry was delayed due to lack of oxygen. Things
>> were chugging along quite well until my parents noticed that I was
>> missing the milestones I was supposed to have as a child. I could not
>> sit on my own without support until I was one year old. I had not
>> started walking even at one and a half.
>>
>> My parents started running around to various doctors, until one got it
>> right. He said, "Now I want you to sit down. What I'm about to tell
>> you will be hard to take."
>>
>> The doctor told my parents I had cerebral palsy. I would need an
>> operation on both legs to stretch my tendons. I would need
>> physiotherapy everyday for at least two years. I finally started
>> walking at age three and a half. Today, I walk with a limp. And my
>> hands and arms have tremors and spasms.
>>
>> My parents started looking for a husband for me at the beginning of
>> 2011. They are playing match maker, rather than 'arranging' the
>> marriage. It's my call at the end of the day.
>>
>> My parents signed me up to various online matrimonial websites. They
>> have described me as a family person, educated and fun-loving. They
>> have also mentioned that I have a limp. When people contact us to
>> express interest, my parents tell them the full story.
>>
>> We have received various expressions of interest, but to date I've
>> only met one guy. Just over two years ago, my dad sent me the profile
>> and picture of a man in Bangalore. I liked his profile enough to want
>> to meet him.
>>
>> My mum travelled to India to meet him first. Then I started talking to
>> him over the phone and e-mail. I felt chemistry. I told him about my
>> disability. He said he was okay with it and was looking forward to
>> meet me.
>>
>> Looked promising.
>>
>> My parents and I flew to India to meet him in December 2011. He called
>> me twice on the day we landed. I woke up on the day of our meeting
>> with jetlag and butterflies in my stomach. I got dressed up and wore a
>> sari.
>>
>> I chatted alone with him for an hour about our interests, goals, and
>> what we wanted out of life. We then joined the parents in the lounge
>> room.
>>
>> I asked his mother if she had any questions and concerns. I got
>> silence. She smiled nervously and shook her head.
>>
>> When we didn't hear from them for a week, my mum rang the guy.
>>
>> He told Mum he was concerned I would be too much of a dependant. His
>> mum had separated from her husband and the guy was her main support.
>> He was scared that I'd be an additional dependant.
>>
>> I called and told him to visit me again so we could chat. While on the
>> phone he told me that after we met, he could not eat, he could not
>> work and he could not sleep. It was because he was panicking about
>> marrying a girl with a disability.
>>
>> I wanted to allay his fears; convince him that, heavens no, I wouldn't
>> be a burden.
>>
>> When he came over I told him to be honest about what was going through
>> his mind. This roughly sums up what he said:
>>
>> "My mum and I are scared that you will be a dependant. I don't know if
>> I can balance looking after you and my mum."
>>
>> "We are worried about what society will think if I married a girl with
>> a disability."
>>
>> "You didn't tell us you have hand tremors". (I did.)
>>
>> "My mum's pu

Re: [AI] Good News

[ishita kapoor]

Why should we congratulate them?
What they have done for VI community of Gujarat?
They are silent on basic issues like employment.
In Gujarat they only give and receive awards.
I am telling this with pain that no ngo or no person from any ngo is
fighting for basic rights of visually impaired.
In Gujarat government there is no vacancy for visually impaired.
Still they are happily accepting awards.
I am not against Mr. Vyas or anybody, but they shouldn't look only
small awards and recognition for government which is deft at least in
our case.
They should learn from mr. rumta, manocha Abraham etc
Who are selflessly serving our community.
Sorry if I have hurt anyone.


On 2/8/14, surendra salgaonkar  wrote:
> Congratulatory mails on his personal MailID please!
>
>
> On 2/7/14, Vamshi. G  wrote:
>> Hi Ketan,
>>
>> Can you please mention the achievements of our fellow member Praful
>> Vyas for which he is going to be felicitated? Its always good to know
>> the contributions of the member which will inspire others to follow
>> the path laid by him.  So, please share.
>>
>> On 2/7/14, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> In this gloom and doom I have some good news to share:  our friend Mr.
>>> Praful Vyas from Dhoraji in Gujarat is being felicitated by government
>>> of
>>> Gujarat tomorrow.  He will be awarded the Dhartiratna award--a
>>> prestigious
>>> award tomorrow.
>>>
>>> THis is a great development indeed.
>>>
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Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow

[ishita kapoor]

well i don't understand disability much as i am new in the field. but
i found all issues of avinash logical. they say durghatna se der bhali
hai.
thanks...

On 2/3/14, Himanshu Sahu  wrote:
> Friends, I am mentioning here few recent examples of blatant
> discrimination with blind people and specially 100% blind.
>
> Bangiya Gramin Vikash Bank, a regional rural bank of West Bengal
> recently notified vacancies for "office assistance" post of which
> overall 6 seats are reserved for PWD, but all these seats were
> reserved for OC category only.
> I filed a complaint with CCPD and had a conversation with Mr. Chief
> Commissioner, who assured me that his office will issue a direction to
> the bank for following the due reservation system thereby including VI
> and other categories to  participate in the recruitment process.
>
> Now, I am apprehensive whether the proposed national commissions for
> persons with disabilities will be having such power to direct any
> employer to secure the seats for Visually Impaired?
>
> Another example of blatant discrimination with 100% blindness
> is the denial of Allahabad Bank in its last clerical recruitment where
> even after securing allotment from IBPS 100% blind are outrightly
> rejected from giving them job, saying that "which law says that
> blindness means 100% blindness"? "We do not have any work for 100%
> blind". However, low vision candidates are selected by same bank in
> same recruitment.
> Completely unnerved by this unashamed discrimination, one of 100%
> blind candidates approached to CCPD with the hope of getting justice.
>
> Will this new bill eliminate any such possibility of hidden or
> barefaced discrimination with full blind or open new windows to
> rampant such discriminations?
> I think that it's high time for entire VI Community to standby with
> legitimate  demands and should not compromise with few pieces of
> cheese which is being offered  to lure us and silent our mouth.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/3/14, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Finally, I couldn't refrain myself from keeping my point of view.
>> I fully agree with Avinash and Ajay.
>> In a system like our's, it is next to impossible to seek an amendment
>> in near future.
>> Even a lot of laws related to business and political interest take a
>> grater amount of time to get amended then disability is not an
>> exception.
>> My best wishes to all those who are fighting on the roads and in
>> dharnas to make themselves audable to the system.
>> It is so easy for us to sit in frunt of a fancy computer and write an
>> email but almost impossible to join them for this nobel cause.
>> Being in a situation of low vision as well as blind, I have seen how
>> blind are discriminated on various occasions.
>> Though everybuddy has a fundamental right to keep his/ her point of view
>> but
>> It is necessary to keep a singal openion for the benefit of a larger
>> community.
>> We shouldn't forget that after elections, the situation will be worst.
>>
>> In the end, My best wishes will always with those people who are
>> striving hard to get the things done.
>>
>> Thanks and regards.
>>
>> On 2/3/14, Ajay Arora  wrote:
>>> Another point that I would like to bring to your attention is that
>>> chapter 2 of the proposed act: RIGHTS AND ENTITLEMENTS says that
>>> persons with disabilities will not be discriminated unless the
>>> discrimination is for the legitimate end.
>>> Now legitimate end can be anything. The government can say that
>>> employing persons with blindness may endanger the security of the
>>> passengers in railway, therefore, we cannot appoint them in railways
>>> as it is a legitimate end. Similarly, government can argue that
>>> hearing impaired cannot be given driving license, because they may
>>> cause problem to the public order. Guys there can be thousands of
>>> legitimate ends for the government that we cannot even think of at
>>> this point of time.
>>>
>>> On 2/3/14, Ajay Arora  wrote:
 Dear all,

 On amendment, I would just say that copyright bill was passed in late
 1950s and it took us sixty long years to seek even one amendment for
 disableds that too after many right to read campaigns in many parts of
 the country. Even kanchan mam was personally involved in many of those
 campaigns. Therefore, the idea of having amendments later, does not
 seem to be well placed to me.
 Let me give few examples of how this bill should not be passed:
 1. the proposed national commissions for persons with disabilities
 cannot give directions,  whereas ccpd could. It can only give
 recommendations.
 2. the definition for low vision and totally blind is very complocated
 and vague. it says that for totally blind the upper limit of having
 the benefit of reservation will be 6by 60. which means anybody who can
 see things upto six metres will be counted in totally blind category.
 And anybody who can see upto two metre and beyon

Re: [AI] A Must Read: Why Should Disability Spell the End of Romance?

[ishita kapoor]

great thought subramani sir.

On 2/1/14, jignesh thakur  wrote:
> yes romance has nothing to do with disability. but points of sucharu
> sir and ishita madam are also logical.
>
> On 1/31/14, Subramani L  wrote:
>> Dear Ms. Preeti and others:
>>
>> While it is nice and fine to have a successful married life, factors
>> such as what is the extent of an individual's contribution to the
>> relationship, how far one could make the partnership work etc are
>> important. Relationships do not take off or completely break down when
>> we as partners fail to interest the other person any longer or,
>> possibly don't try to show how interesting we can be. Today's boys and
>> girls are intellectually so well advanced that compatibility at the
>> mind level is equally important than physical attraction or disability
>> or lack of same.
>>
>> Having seen the able-disabled combination a bit myself and had a few
>> burns, I can tell you that it makes two to tango in a relationship. If
>> someone calls you blind, then turn off the light and challenge the
>> other person to deal with darkness. Demand respect if it is not given,
>> at the same time work hard to deserve respect. This works with all
>> kinds of relationship, especially in able-disabled romantic
>> entanglement. The problem is we always feel "grateful" to an able
>> bodied partner and will compromise our self respect to the extent that
>> they consider us as push overs. This is not to question any well
>> functioning relationships, but this is quite a factor in
>> malfunctioning romantic entanglements.
>>
>> In short, if you are aiming to romantically involved with someone,
>> ensure there are clear lines drawn so that there is space for both.
>> Ok. I hand over the comb which I acquired probably too late having
>> lost my hair (smily).
>>
>> Subramani
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/30/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>>> You have to work towards making your own life a success storyl. It is
>>> hard
>>> work and still is hard work! But it always pays! Life is a compromise if
>>> you
>>> make it, and there are people who are living life on their own terms!
>>> And
>>> all this is our own choice and how we think. Remember thoughts always
>>> become
>>> things! Whatever you want to believe, will be your truth and you will
>>> find
>>> various examples to prove the same.
>>>
>>> So why not think of finding good life  partners? Instead  of looking
>>> for
>>> disabled and not disabled spouces
>>>
>>> Life will always become what you make of it.
>>> Preeti
>>> Preeti Monga
>>> Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>>> Landline: 011 22781446
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>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of ishita kapoor
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:42 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] A Must Read: Why Should Disability Spell the End of
>>> Romance?
>>>
>>> madam you are right.
>>> But at the same time I can present many examples from different
>>> mailing lists supporting my point of view.
>>> My simple belief is generally a non disable person marries a disable
>>> person just because he or she doesn't get able bodied life partner.
>>> Or to get extra family income.
>>> I admit that there are few success stories like yours. But most
>>> marriages between disable and non disable are simply marriage of
>>> compromise from both the side.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/30/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>>>> Dear Ishita, and also Suc

Re: [AI] A Must Read: Why Should Disability Spell the End of Romance?

[ishita kapoor]

Very thought provoking article.
Though I strongly believe that we can't rather shouldn't force able
bodied person to accept us.
When I was sighted I never fancied a blind boy. Now how can I demand
from sighted person to accept me?
Love and marriage happens in equal group. Romance between disable and
non disable is only poetic idea in my view.
How many blind parents are there on the list? Do they allow their
sighted son to marry a disable girl?
The answer is obviously no.
By reading many mails on different lists i have learnt that if you are
earning well then any able bodied girl or boy will accept you as a
security.


On 1/30/14, Sucharu Gupta  wrote:
> Hi friends,
> I would like to share my opinion about the article without hurting the
> feelings of anybody .it is just what I feel:
> in humans the relationships bloom between the equal persons .this is quite
> natural.the equality is measured by various parameters like appearance and
> personality,,socioeconomic factors,,family background and many more.this is
> the way our brain works irrespective of being abled or disabled.even in
> animals some factors determine the potentiality of one to find the mating
> partners.isn't it quite natural and not learntbehaviour?
>
> I never had a crush on any differently abled man when I was sighted so I
> have no right to take this social behaviour  as prejudice,.
>
> Moreover in the depths of our heart we ourselves feel a abled bodied person
> more desirable.
> We should not sympathize ourselves and live in the ground realities.regards
> sucharu
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Himanshu Sahu
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:08 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] A Must Read: Why Should Disability Spell the End of
> Romance?
>
> A tremendous piece of writing unravelling a variety of shades of emotions
> and experiences which die in the hearts of many differently ables,
> unspoken!
> This is what makes me always appriciate Nidhi. Her livelyness, sensitivity
> and perception of  disability really brings a cheer while interacting with
> her...
>
>
> On 1/29/14, Shiv  wrote:
>> Here is the full article:
>>
>> Source:
>> http://in.news.yahoo.com/why-should-disability-spell-the-end-of-romanc
>> e-055837779.html#
>>
>> Why Should Disability Spell the End of Romance?
>> Flirting. Heartbreak. Clumsy first dates. Matrimonial sites. Studying
>> for three degrees. Salsa classes. The coming-of-age story of a young
>> woman who began losing her eyesight at 15.
>> By Nidhi Goyal | Grist Media - 6 hours ago
>>
>> The wheelchair Kamasutra: Image courtesy Streetsie.com as seen on
>> sexualityanddisability.orgLike most Indian urban teenage girls, my
>> love life
>>
>> revolved around the stars of Bollywood. I had countless celebrity
>> crushes growing up. The one I remember the most was Abhishek Bachchan,
>> who I was 100
>>
>> percent sure I was going to marry.
>>
>> When I was an undergraduate student working towards my B.Com Degree at
>> Narsee Monjee College of Commerce and Economics in my hometown of
>> Mumbai, it
>>
>> turned out that college was only five minutes away from Abhishek's house.
>> Which meant, of course, that passing by his house became a morning
>> ritual for me and another Bachchan-crazy friend of mine. In the way
>> that some people go to temples, we went to Jalsa - abode of the
>> Bachchans - and pestered the security personnel to tell us the timing
>> of his coming and goings. To the dismay of the guards, we once even
> followed his car.
>>
>> When I was 15, I was diagnosed with retinitis pigmentosa, a
>> degenerative eye
>>
>> disorder. By the time I was in college and my love for Abhishek was in
>> full
>>
>> swing, so was the loss of my eyesight. As I dropped off cards on his
>> birthday and wrote him love poems, my ability to see was steadily
> declining.
>>
>> Of course, this made little difference to my love for Abhishek, who I
>> had only managed to speak to about twice: instances where all I could
>> splutter out was a request for an autograph. But when it came to the
>> less tongue-tied, non-celebrity crushes on classmates and friends, my
>> eyesight began to make all the difference.
>> The writer Nidhi Goyal. Photo credit: Nidhi Goyal Teenage crushes are,
>> by and large, a cause of anxiety. You spend days pondering over what
>> to wear so he notices you, how you can stop him from spotting that new
>> splotch of acne on your face, and why oh why is he always
>>
>> talking to the girl with that L'Oreal-ad-type hair? For me, it was a
>> wholly
>>
>> different ball game. When you can't see, all social interactions
>> become more
>>
>> difficult. Imagine trying to distinguish between the one hundred
>> different voices of your classmates. Of never fully knowing whether
>> someone is smiling
>>
>> at you or not. Of not realising you are standing n

Re: [AI] guidance needed for ssc application

[ishita kapoor]

friends,
i think in group b we have these 2 options.
1 assistant
central Secretariat Service

2 Assistant
Central Vigilance Commission.
could you suggest which is better?
thanks


On 1/28/14, Bandi KiranKumar  wrote:
> please why are worrying about salaries?
> when you get selected in exam, pay scale will be good enough.
> and will be recognise as a class one officer.
> there will be five sections in that exam.
> out of which you have to qualify for each and every section.
> whole exam contains 200 marks.
> please write the exam carefully and be in touch with me.
> thanks and regards
>
> On 1/27/14, vishal M  wrote:
>> HI Aziz,
>>
>> Graduate in any stream can apply for these posts. Only if you want to
>> apply
>> for Statistical
>> Investigator Grade post
>> you should have stats as your graduation subject. All other posts dont
>> have
>> such constraints.
>>
>> And on a lighter note i want to tell you that I am not not Sir.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vishal
>> On Jan 27, 2014 9:34 PM, "Aziz Minat"  wrote:
>>
>>> Sir, i have a quary, can a graduate with english literature apply for
>>> the
>>> said post? Or is it for economics and stetastic graduates?
>>> --
>>> regards,
>>> Aziz Minat.
>>> -Original message-
>>> From: vishal M
>>> Sent:  27/01/2014, 21:13
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] guidance needed for ssc application
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ishita,
>>>
>>> Dont worry about pay scales. Grade Pay 4600 and 4200 amount to a salary
>>> of
>>> around Rs 35k. Lesser grade pay of 2800 amount to around 22k.
>>> And about your doubts :
>>> 1. Yes, these are good jobs for us as the are Central Government Jobs.
>>> 2. You can apply for posts which are identified for Blind. Eg : Under
>>> Grade
>>> B : Assisant in CSS, MEA, Railways and other ministeries. Under Grade C
>>> :
>>> Tax Assistants.
>>> 3. About salary, discussed above.
>>> 4. Its a three tier structure exam. First two tiers are of objective
>>> type
>>> and third is interview.  For qualifying as Assistant in CSS there is an
>>> additional Computer Profiency Test which includes Typing, Excel and
>>> Powerpoint and for tax assistant only typing.
>>>
>>> You have to give preferences to these posts as per your interest.
>>> If you have anymore confusion, you can mail me.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vishal
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:21 PM, ishita kapoor
>>> >> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > Dear friends,
>>> > I am graduate and would like to apply for STAFF SELECTION Commission
>>> posts.
>>> > I have downloaded notice and information but couldn’t understand pay
>>> > skell and other few things.
>>> > So please clarify my doubts:
>>> > 1 is those jobs good for us?
>>> > 2 for which post we can apply? I mean I am interested in applying in
>>> group
>>> > b.
>>> > 3 how much salary we get actually if we get job?
>>> > 4 how’s there exam structure?
>>> > I found the detail very confusing so asked few foolish questions,
>>> > please excuse me.
>>> > Thanks in advance…
>>> >
>>> > Time to meet up again!
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>>> >
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Re: [AI] guidance needed for ssc application

[ishita kapoor]

you are right sir, but in real world we should know the pay structure
also. i know they provide good salary. but i would like to know the
meaning of the word good. and do they appoint us in reality? and which
post is better for us?
i downloaded their notification from some of mailing list.

On 1/27/14, rama anjaneyulu  wrote:
> On 1/27/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>> I am graduate and would like to apply for STAFF SELECTION Commission
>> posts.
>> I have downloaded notice and information but couldn’t understand pay
>> skell and other few things.
>> So please clarify my doubts:
>> 1 is those jobs good for us?
>> 2 for which post we can apply? I mean I am interested in applying in
>> group
>> b.
>> 3 how much salary we get actually if we get job?
>> 4 how’s there exam structure?
>> I found the detail very confusing so asked few foolish questions,
>> please excuse me.
>> Thanks in advance…
>>
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>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
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>
> Hi Friend,
>
> At 1st we should not see the Salary side, we should test our talent.
> SSC is A Recruitment Consultant for central Government. If you
> qualified in those exams, you will be appointed by the central
> government with high Salary scale. So My Personal Suggestion is to
> apply the job to which do you want apply.
> Even it will be an experience for you. where did you download that SSC
> Notification?
>
>
>
> --
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> Yours
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[AI] guidance needed for ssc application

[ishita kapoor]

Dear friends,
I am graduate and would like to apply for STAFF SELECTION Commission posts.
I have downloaded notice and information but couldn’t understand pay
skell and other few things.
So please clarify my doubts:
1 is those jobs good for us?
2 for which post we can apply? I mean I am interested in applying in group b.
3 how much salary we get actually if we get job?
4 how’s there exam structure?
I found the detail very confusing so asked few foolish questions,
please excuse me.
Thanks in advance…

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Re: [AI] Deaf, mute dalit widow molested by caste Hindu trio in Thoothukudi

[ishita kapoor]

;>>>>>> from using screan-reading softwares and aquiring high salaried
>>>>>>>>> jobs.
>>>>>>>>> And violence on scheduled caste disabled women is rampent.
>>>>>>>>> Below sharing few paragraphs from recently published book:
>>>>>>>>> 'Disability
>>>>>>>>> Gender and State Policy' hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>> block quote
>>>>>>>>> Prevalence of Disability among Dalits
>>>>>>>>> With an estimated figure of 1.8 per cent persons with disabilities
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the overall population of India, the prevalence of disability
>>>>>>>>> among
>>>>>>>>> dalits is found to be remarkably higher (2.4%). About 92 per cent
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> households with disabled members across social groups have at
>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>> one disabled person. About 7 per cent of dalits and upper caste
>>>>>>>>> households and 5 per cent of ST households have two disabled
>>>>>>>>> persons.
>>>>>>>>> It may be noted that there is a positive relationship between the
>>>>>>>>> number of disabled persons in households and average size of
>>>>>>>>> households across all social groups. The variations across gender
>>>>>>>>> reveal higher prevalence of disability among males than females
>>>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>>> all social groups. The gender gap is, however, relatively lower
>>>>>>>>> among
>>>>>>>>> dalits and STs than other social groups, suggesting equal
>>>>>>>>> vulnerability of both males and females belonging to dalit and ST
>>>>>>>>> communities to disability. The gender gap across different types
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> disability shows that among dalits, the prevalence of locomotor,
>>>>>>>>> hearing and speech disabilities and mental retardation is
>>>>>>>>> relatively
>>>>>>>>> higher among males than females and the reverse is true for visual
>>>>>>>>> disability (blindness and low vision). Mental illness, as a mild
>>>>>>>>> form
>>>>>>>>> of mental disability, is higher among females across all social
>>>>>>>>> groups. The prevalence of locomotor, speech and hearing
>>>>>>>>> disabilities
>>>>>>>>> is relatively higher among dalits; whereas, the prevalence of
>>>>>>>>> mental
>>>>>>>>> disability is higher among upper caste groups. Among PWD, higher
>>>>>>>>> proportion of disabilities shows in younger age group (Dalai,
>>>>>>>>> 2002)
>>>>>>>>> also among SCs and STs (Pal, 2010; Addlakha 2013 p: 266).
>>>>>>>>> block quote end
>>>>>>>>> Now As far as Madam Ishita said: 'I'm leftist and it is my duty to
>>>>>>>>> criticise Hindus'. I just wish her to think, : how many Access
>>>>>>>>> Indians
>>>>>>>>> are Scheduled caste and scheduled tribe Disabled?
>>>>>>>>> I end here.
>>>>>>>>> On 11/30/13, jignesh thakur  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> This is nothing but unfortunate effort to defame certain culture
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> communist sponsored media.
>>>>>>>>>> The same media says that we should not link any religion with
>>>>>>>>>> terrorism and they are connecting rape with particular religion
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> class.
>>>>>>>>>> Am I wrong avinash?
>>>>>>>>>> I am against this incident but to blame upper class of Hinduism
>>>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>>>> writers morality and mentality.
>>>>>>>>>> And unfortunate thing is you are defending such writers like
>>>&g

Re: [AI] how to download call letter for upcoming ibps clerikal exam

[ishita kapoor]

thank you friends for quicker help then expected.
problem solved.

On 12/2/13, Rahul Bhatia  wrote:
> click here to download your admit card
> http://ibpsreg.sifyitest.com/cweclknov13/login.php?appid=qassdiee4alqica13ndw
>
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[AI] how to download call letter for upcoming ibps clerikal exam

[ishita kapoor]

Friends,
My ibps clerical exam is on 7th of December.
I am trying to download call letter for the same.
But not able to find out on the given website.
What should I do?
Please share direct  link for downloading  call letter if possible.
Thanks in advance…

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Re: [AI] Deaf, mute dalit widow molested by caste Hindu trio in Thoothukudi

[ishita kapoor]

As expected from leftist.
It is your duty to abuse hindus.
Anyway this list is not for discussing such things.
Will meet somewhere ells.
Sorry moderator sir for this remark.


On 11/30/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Your 'why' will be best answered by New Indian Express literally...
> metaphorically, and of course actually, a caste hindu treo speaks
> volumes...
> in nutshell, Upper caste criminals who perpetrate sexual violence and
> violate bodily autonomy of scheduled caste women connive with the
> police and the administration and remain scot free.
> Intersectionality in disability is understudied reality in the country.
> We'll carry on this if you desire on some other platform?..
> On 11/30/13, ishita kapoor  wrote:
>> a caste Hindu trio
>> a caste Hindu trio
>> a caste Hindu trio
>> a caste Hindu trio
>> what is this?
>> though i condemn this but still...
>>
>> On 11/30/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> Express News Service - THOOTHUKUDI
>>> Published: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
>>> Last Updated: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
>>> http://newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/Deaf-mute-dalit-widow-molested-by-caste-Hindu-trio-in-Thoothukudi/2013/11/20/article1900673.ece
>>> A 36-year-old differently-abled dalit  widow, was allegedly molested by
>>> a caste Hindu trio, who also abused her using her caste name, at
>>> Thoothukudi on Monday.
>>>
>>> Sources said that Amutha, widow of Mariappan and a resident of T
>>> Saveriapuram here, was both deaf and dumb. After the death of her
>>> husband Mariappan seven years ago, she was living with her father,
>>> Sakthivel, who worked as a watchman.
>>>
>>> On Monday evening, she, along with her 13-year old niece, Kanagavalli,
>>> took her goats for grazing to a field on the western side of the
>>> Komaspuram village.
>>>
>>> While she was herding the goats, a caste Hindu trio closed her mouth
>>> with their hands and forcibly took her away. When she resisted their
>>> attempts, they abused the woman using her caste name, according to her
>>> niece.
>>>
>>> Kanagavalli, who was alarmed by the brutality of the trio, rushed to
>>> Thalamuthunagar police station and informed about the ‘kidnap’ of her
>>> relative.
>>>
>>> When police rushed to the spot, the trio fled the scene leaving the
>>> woman in the same place.
>>>
>>> However, police managed to catch two of them. They were identified as
>>> Selvam (36), son of Munisamy, and Saravanamuthu(23), son of
>>> Shanmugavel, both from Davispuram in Thoothukudi. The third person,
>>> Lakshmana Kumar, son of Soundarapandi, took to his heels.
>>>
>>> A case has been filed against the trio under various sections of the
>>> IPC and 3(1)(XI) of SC and ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act.
>>>
>>> Subsequently, police arrested the two persons. On Tuesday morning,
>>> during a search police arrested the third person, Lakshmana Kumar.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] Deaf, mute dalit widow molested by caste Hindu trio in Thoothukudi

[ishita kapoor]

a caste Hindu trio
a caste Hindu trio
a caste Hindu trio
a caste Hindu trio
what is this?
though i condemn this but still...

On 11/30/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Express News Service - THOOTHUKUDI
> Published: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
> Last Updated: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
> http://newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/Deaf-mute-dalit-widow-molested-by-caste-Hindu-trio-in-Thoothukudi/2013/11/20/article1900673.ece
> A 36-year-old differently-abled dalit  widow, was allegedly molested by
> a caste Hindu trio, who also abused her using her caste name, at
> Thoothukudi on Monday.
>
> Sources said that Amutha, widow of Mariappan and a resident of T
> Saveriapuram here, was both deaf and dumb. After the death of her
> husband Mariappan seven years ago, she was living with her father,
> Sakthivel, who worked as a watchman.
>
> On Monday evening, she, along with her 13-year old niece, Kanagavalli,
> took her goats for grazing to a field on the western side of the
> Komaspuram village.
>
> While she was herding the goats, a caste Hindu trio closed her mouth
> with their hands and forcibly took her away. When she resisted their
> attempts, they abused the woman using her caste name, according to her
> niece.
>
> Kanagavalli, who was alarmed by the brutality of the trio, rushed to
> Thalamuthunagar police station and informed about the ‘kidnap’ of her
> relative.
>
> When police rushed to the spot, the trio fled the scene leaving the
> woman in the same place.
>
> However, police managed to catch two of them. They were identified as
> Selvam (36), son of Munisamy, and Saravanamuthu(23), son of
> Shanmugavel, both from Davispuram in Thoothukudi. The third person,
> Lakshmana Kumar, son of Soundarapandi, took to his heels.
>
> A case has been filed against the trio under various sections of the
> IPC and 3(1)(XI) of SC and ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act.
>
> Subsequently, police arrested the two persons. On Tuesday morning,
> during a search police arrested the third person, Lakshmana Kumar.
>
>
> --
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> New Delhi India
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Re: [AI] Business oppurtunity for VI persons

[ishita kapoor]

Nice topic.
I was working with call centre as a team leader.
My celery was also excellent.
But I was not some what satisfied with my work so left the job.
I was active in share market so after living job I started full time trading.
Now I earn more then I was earning in my previous job.
Trading doesn’t need sight only brain.
Now I can use facebook any time.
Now I can go anywhere without asking anyone.
In fact now I can control my life without losing anything.
I am not against job. But to get job is not everything.
Generally we believe that being visually impaired we need safe job.
But in my view it is not true.
We should do the thing in witch we are good.
Being blind we can’t do everything but certainly we can do many great
things with our life.
We just need to understand our talent and skill.


On 11/21/13, Saravanan  wrote:
> Hello friends,
>
> To lead a normal life, each and everyone should be satisfied with their
> basic needs.
> For that, we have to earn. So, earnings most propably decides the happiness
> in walk thru in ourlifes. For a normal person,
> there a lot of oppurtunities to  improve their earnings.
> But, for a VI person there is only a limited oppurtunities.
> We require a  safety job or business oppurtunity to shape our life.
> Most of us don't know to shape our life.
> It is not possible for all of us to go for a safety & supportable jobb.
> So, I request to provide the the details of business oppurtunities
> that VI persons can handle & lead their life in success.
> In business, we can also provide employment oppurtunities for others also.
>
> Thanks
> saravanan.K
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Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore

[ishita kapoor]

Good work avinash.
Last year I got an opportunity to meet a blind person who was bagging
at hanuman temple rajkot gujarat.
I talked to him for 15 to 20 minutes.
He was intelligent and 12th pass.
He said that bagging is my business. And I am happy with it. I can
earn 500 per day in this business without doing anything.
I asked him to do something meaningful with his life. But he replied I
don’t want to do anything.
I really found him happy with his life.
I couldn’t speak anything.
I said him bye bye without giving anything.


On 11/18/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Dear All
> Nobody wants to begg, but hunger and burning stomach compell many to do so.
> We should respect these blind beggars, who are in absense of any
> elementary support by family and the state are compelled to begg for
> alms. they are fighting for bare minimum.There are thousands who are
> forced to begg like them.
> Can we do anything for them?
> They are six blind men, 2 Aged around thirty, two mid thirties and
> other two above forty.. Two are holding dirty rounded clowths and
> others have stranded their palms in anticipation of money and food and
> singing in corus.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pEmOXC3M8w
> Please if possible supply few data/surveys done on blind beggars in
> Indian cities I'm writing one piece on blind beggars for one national
> Indian Magazine. Please if you know any locality in Delhi where blind
> beggars live in groups then also inform me.
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Re: [AI] Online music class on skype

[ishita kapoor]

hi, i don't know this is write place for such request or not but
please share your recording for us if possible.
moderator sir i am sorry if i have violated list guideline.

On 11/12/13, Naveen HK  wrote:
> If I want to only listen your music over the skype then may I?
>
> On 11/12/13, Dharmesh Kothari  wrote:
>> Dear music lovers,i about to start online music class on skype, where you
>> can learn singing,guitar,keyboard,harmonium  and what ever you want to
>> learn
>> like classical,light,folk,western,movie songs,ghazal,bhajan,garba and
>> much
>> more.information regarding me has given below.
>> Intresting people may contact.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> BEST REGARDS
>> Music Composer- DHARMESH KOTHARI
>>
>> Honoured by The Chief Minister of Gujarat Shri Narendra Modi.
>> The fame of Sa Re Ga Ma Pa & Shabaash India Zee TV.
>> The best compliments given by The Legendary Music Director Mr. Bappi
>> Lahiri.
>> Owner & Director of STAR MUSIC COACHING.
>> Mob.9925678915   9428165987
>> For more info- type star music coaching in facebook & youtube
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Re: [AI] (AI) Help required to convert ebooks from epub to word or other convenient formats

[ishita kapoor]

generally i use www.zamzar.com for converting ebooks.

On 10/28/13, Doris and Chris  wrote:
> Use Calibre either from the command line or in conmbination with the
> ebook convert gui frontend.
>
> hth
>
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>
> At 01:39 AM 10/28/2013 +0530, you wrote:
>>Dear all,
>>As the subject line reads, I have some ebooks in epub, html, mobi
>>formats. I am not in a position to access them freely or  to convert
>>them to regular formats such as word or pdf. Your expert advice is
>>humbly requested.
>>
>>with wishes.
>>
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Re: [AI] Gujarat Government blind towards blinds' interest ...

[ishita kapoor]

It seems that few people are writing just to abuse modi and Gujarat.
We have better life then all you think.
We live in better condition in compare to other state.
We have roads and electricity
We have develop infrastructure
And it helps to visually impaired too directly or indirectly.
Do you know how many vidyasahayaks are there in Gujarat?
If not then please do check before writing foolishly.
We have advance library for specially visually impaired students in ahmedabad.
And it is because of our sencitive government.
I accept that problems are there.
But it is the same in each state.
Yes in state like delhi the situation is better, it is not because
shila dikshit.
But it is because people like santosh sir, dipendra sir and other activist.
You just visit Gujarat, you will find hardly any visually impaired
person jobless
You can question the role of ngos of Gujarat. But to blame only 1
person won’t solve any purpose.
Are you writing for disability or to condemning Gujarat?
If you can’t understand simple theory of akhilesh sir, then forget
about your degree and education and start learning from kg.


On 10/11/13, sharad tripathi  wrote:
> Hello all,
> After going through this whole discussion, first issue of disability
> need to be politicized as sc and st has done for them. eventualy
> politics design our destiny.
> now read about congress lead state of rajasthan, here disability means
> OH only. VH,HH,Mr are no where in the scene. I have filed a PIL for
> the universal computer education of v.i. in the state. I have become a
> evil for the state public service commission because of filing more
> than ten cases one by one in the last three years. however, latest
> universal scribe rules are not implemented in the state. back log of
> public services in our quata is pending still. whole of budget is
> going to aid and services to OH category people. Let's come on the
> field and execution of what we habe recieved till now is important.,
> therefore one group among us should function in planning and another
> in execution and other in marketing or awareness but sorry execution
> wing is very weak. because some of us enjoying or relishing hefty paid
> government job and some are struggling for that. and sorry for them
> who are not aware and living a deplorable life.
> regards
> sharad tripathi
> m.9828545636
>
> On 10/9/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> I wonder If Narendra Modi becomes PM, Such steps can be taken at
>> Centre level too...
>> After hearing and listening to many friends from Gujarat, I'm smelling
>> very bleak future if he becomes PM.
>> Oppology from Modi supporters here... and don't reply just to defend
>> him, please.
>> we shouldn't forget he has made situation worst from worse in the
>> state for blind people.
>> http://www.bilkulonline.com/gujarat-news/general-news/3883-bpa-applauds-sc-decision-for-blind-wants-gog-to-review-its-stand
>> BPA applauds SC decision for blind,
>>
>> wants GoG to review its stand
>>
>> Bilkul News, Ahmedabad, Oct 8: The Supreme Court on 8th October, 2013
>> directed the Centre and all State Governments to provide three percent
>> job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
>> companies and institutions as per reservation under Section 32 and 33
>> of Persons with Disabilities Act, 1995.
>>
>>
>>
>> Welcoming the decision of SC Bhushan Punani Executive Director of the
>> Blind People's Association (BPA) Ahmedabad said "Supreme Court has
>> passed a very bold judgment directing all the State Governments and
>> the Central Government to implement reservation of 3 % jobs for
>> persons with disabilities and to complete the backlog within 3
>> months".
>>
>> Unfortunately, Gujarat paints a sad picture here. Punani also adds to
>> say, "The Government of Gujarat has taken the liberty of issuing a
>> notification contrary to the provisions of reservation and has
>> wrongfully denied appointment of blind persons as Vidya Sahayaks which
>> in contradiction to the provisions of law"
>>
>> A bench headed by Chief Justice P Sathasivam also clarified that the
>> principle of not exceeding more than 50 per cent reservation would not
>> be applicable while granting quota for disabled persons.
>>
>> The apex court directed the authorities to compile the number of
>> vacancies in all their departments to give jobs to disabled persons
>> under three per cent reserved quota within three months.
>>
>> The bench said it is an "alarming reality" that disabled persons are
>> not getting jobs because of various social barriers forcing them to
>> live life in poverty and negligence.
>>
>> It said the Government has "categorical obligation" to protect the
>> right of disabled persons and passed a slew of directions for
>> providing jobs to the differently-abled under the Persons with
>> Disabilities Act.
>>
>> While this bold judgment of the Supreme Court which in reality
>> validates provisions of Section 32 of the Persons with Disabilities
>> Act is a very welcome step a

Re: [AI] question regarding a failing laptop battery

[ishita kapoor]

great info.
thank you very much sir.

On 10/3/13, Yogesh Chhabra  wrote:
> 1. regarding your concern about your current battery, One of the
> biggest disadvantages with using battery powered products is that
> batteries have a limited lifespan. Expanding a battery's lifespan is
> an area in which manufacturers of laptops, hybrid cars, and cell
> phones are constantly working on.
> Lithium-ion batteries tend to overheat and last about 750 charges,
> (which means your battery will last about 3years).
>
> 2. regarding battery replacement, its voltage, and runtime, Every
> laptop battery is given a power rating in order to show you, the
> consumer, about how long your battery should last before it needs to
> be recharged. These electrical specifications are given using volts
> (V) and milliAmps (mAh). For example, you may see your battery is
> given a rating of: 10.8V, 4000mAh.
>
> Volts and milliAmp hours are used because they measure the amount of
> energy used by a laptop battery. A volt (V) is a measurement used for
> the amount of pressure the positive and negative electrodes produce in
> a battery during the process of discharging energy. Amps (A) measure
> the amount of resistance the energy in your battery produces in order
> to power a laptop.
>
> Think of volts and amps in terms of a shower. When a shower is turned
> on half way, the water that goes through the pipe produces a certain
> amount of pressure. When you turn it on to its full amount, the water
> produces more pressure in the pipe. This pressure, or power, is
> similar to the volts a battery uses. If a laptop is running simple
> programs, little power is needed to discharge energy into a laptop.
> However, if a laptop is running a DVD movie or other high energy
> consumption applications, more power will be needed to discharge the
> necessary amount of energy to run the DVD movie.
>
> You may also notice that increasing the size of the pipe and shower
> head without having to open the faucet all the way will produce
> similar results. This is an example of the amount of resistance in the
> flow of energy. Measuring this resistance is measured in terms of
> amps. In terms of a battery, the amount of resistance is dependant on
> the size of the battery and the amount of energy inside.
>
> Battery life: A Few Things to Consider
>
> Laptop ratings are given in terms of amp hours (Ah). Amp hours measure
> the length of time a battery will discharge energy before it needs
> charging. In order to adequately measure battery life, manufacturers
> use milliAmp hours (mAh). This means that every 1000mAh is equal to
> 1Ah. What does this mean for your new battery? If your original
> battery is measured at 2500mAh and your replacement battery is
> measured at 5000mAh, then your battery run time will double.
>
> Keep in mind that technology constantly changes. Your old battery may
> be rated at a lower run time than a newer one because of technological
> advancements that have produced longer lasting batteries.
>
> Additionally, your battery's run time depends on the programs you use.
> Some programs require more energy to run than others. Examples are:
> the screen (particularly if set at the brightest setting), hard
> drives, CD and DVD drives, and wireless network cards. Unfortunately,
> there is no definite answer to the question, how long exactly will my
> laptop battery last? The key factor is how and what you use your
> laptop for.
> you cannot fit 8 cells or 9 cells battery into a 6 cells battery
> laptop design. remember that, voltage remains constant and mAh varies.
> so, more the values of mAh, mor will be the battery runtime (backup
> time).
>
> On 10/3/13, austin pinto  wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> I have a dell inspiron mini 1012 netbook which is over 3 years old
>> from yesterday if I go to the notifications area then to the battery
>> icon or the icon which tells me how much battery is charged or
>> discharged nvda reads a message consider replacing your battery is
>> this message true?
>> Should I really consider replacing my battery?
>> If yes these are my battery specs
>> Battery name dell vxy2102n.
>> Manufacture simplo.
>> Serial number 11
>> Full charge capacity 57720.
>> Voltage 12865 millivolts.
>> 6 cell lithium ion.
>> I gave you all the details because I want to know the following.
>> 1. If I get a new battery can I get more hours from it if I get a
>> battery with more full charge capacity or more voltage? I also was
>> considering getting a 8 cell battery but I think the battery will be
>> too big to fit in the bay if I can get a battery with more full charge
>> capacity or more voltage how much will be the maximum that I can get
>> without harming my computer
>>
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good 1.

On 10/3/13, Shireen Irani  wrote:
> very interesting.
> many thanx.
>
> On 10/3/13, Pragya Deora  wrote:
>> http://www.ted.com/talks/oliver_sacks_what_hallucination_reveals_about_our_minds.html
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