Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
I've used it earlier and got the menu bar correctly. Try re-installing at once, maybe it helps. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:42 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Version Adobe 9.5. - Original Message - From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Looks like an issue with the reader installation on your system. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:34 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility All such documents that I do have are locally saved to my disk but still the menu bar doesn't figure out in them. One more thing is that the JAWS cursor also doesn't seem to work there. - Original Message - From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility I believe the menu bar doesn't appear when you open the document in the browser, there's one in Adobe Reader. You can save a local copy of the document by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+S and view the local copy in Adobe Reader to avail the menu bar. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:51 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Thanks Zujar, it's workable to some extent. Actually in such type of documents no menu bar appears on the screen so I presumed we cannot change the zoom but pressing the shortcut did the jod. On 6/14/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala wrote: > Dear Vikas, > > I checked my Vodafone bill that is secured and password protected by > Vodafone when sent through email just after reading your input below. > I could read the bill period, amount due, bill period, my name and so > on. The voice accent is too bad and some discrepancies like > "Voclafone", "8 Wind" > instead of "B Wing", etc. > > Note that it produces different results when you scan Screen, Window > and Control - not fair and needs improvement. Also press CTRL+1 to set > the document to actual size and then try scanning. One more pain point > is that you need to scroll the pages manually, the OCR scans only what > appears on screen. > > Best Regards, > Zujar > > An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas > Kapoor > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:55 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > Not a single word is scanned through JAWS OCR in these kinds of files. > - Original Message - > From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > > How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on > this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes > Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last > year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret > it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital > signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be > improved for more accuracy in the coming versions. > > Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming > with NVDA please. > > On 6/14/12, Pamnani wrote: >> OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the >> wagon and we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us >> have read the story >> >> of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. >> The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has >> started. >> >> In the interim we can tackle this little thing. >> >> >> 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the >> registered office address and the name of the big >> shot-CEO/Chairman/MD 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good >> with technical words. >> Explain >> >&
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
Version Adobe 9.5. - Original Message - From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Looks like an issue with the reader installation on your system. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:34 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility All such documents that I do have are locally saved to my disk but still the menu bar doesn't figure out in them. One more thing is that the JAWS cursor also doesn't seem to work there. - Original Message - From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility I believe the menu bar doesn't appear when you open the document in the browser, there's one in Adobe Reader. You can save a local copy of the document by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+S and view the local copy in Adobe Reader to avail the menu bar. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:51 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Thanks Zujar, it's workable to some extent. Actually in such type of documents no menu bar appears on the screen so I presumed we cannot change the zoom but pressing the shortcut did the jod. On 6/14/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala wrote: > Dear Vikas, > > I checked my Vodafone bill that is secured and password protected by > Vodafone when sent through email just after reading your input below. > I could read the bill period, amount due, bill period, my name and so > on. The voice accent is too bad and some discrepancies like > "Voclafone", "8 Wind" > instead of "B Wing", etc. > > Note that it produces different results when you scan Screen, Window > and Control - not fair and needs improvement. Also press CTRL+1 to set > the document to actual size and then try scanning. One more pain point > is that you need to scroll the pages manually, the OCR scans only what > appears on screen. > > Best Regards, > Zujar > > An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas > Kapoor > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:55 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > Not a single word is scanned through JAWS OCR in these kinds of files. > - Original Message - > From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > > How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on > this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes > Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last > year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret > it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital > signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be > improved for more accuracy in the coming versions. > > Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming > with NVDA please. > > On 6/14/12, Pamnani wrote: >> OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the >> wagon and we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us >> have read the story >> >> of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. >> The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has >> started. >> >> In the interim we can tackle this little thing. >> >> >> 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the >> registered office address and the name of the big >> shot-CEO/Chairman/MD 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good >> with technical words. >> Explain >> >> what is happening and what is not. >> 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. >> >> 4. Soldier ants lets go for it >> >> >> >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kotian, H P" >> To: >
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
Looks like an issue with the reader installation on your system. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:34 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility All such documents that I do have are locally saved to my disk but still the menu bar doesn't figure out in them. One more thing is that the JAWS cursor also doesn't seem to work there. - Original Message - From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility I believe the menu bar doesn't appear when you open the document in the browser, there's one in Adobe Reader. You can save a local copy of the document by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+S and view the local copy in Adobe Reader to avail the menu bar. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:51 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Thanks Zujar, it's workable to some extent. Actually in such type of documents no menu bar appears on the screen so I presumed we cannot change the zoom but pressing the shortcut did the jod. On 6/14/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala wrote: > Dear Vikas, > > I checked my Vodafone bill that is secured and password protected by > Vodafone when sent through email just after reading your input below. > I could read the bill period, amount due, bill period, my name and so > on. The voice accent is too bad and some discrepancies like > "Voclafone", "8 Wind" > instead of "B Wing", etc. > > Note that it produces different results when you scan Screen, Window > and Control - not fair and needs improvement. Also press CTRL+1 to set > the document to actual size and then try scanning. One more pain point > is that you need to scroll the pages manually, the OCR scans only what > appears on screen. > > Best Regards, > Zujar > > An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas > Kapoor > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:55 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > Not a single word is scanned through JAWS OCR in these kinds of files. > - Original Message - > From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > > How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on > this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes > Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last > year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret > it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital > signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be > improved for more accuracy in the coming versions. > > Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming > with NVDA please. > > On 6/14/12, Pamnani wrote: >> OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the >> wagon and we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us >> have read the story >> >> of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. >> The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has >> started. >> >> In the interim we can tackle this little thing. >> >> >> 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the >> registered office address and the name of the big >> shot-CEO/Chairman/MD 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good >> with technical words. >> Explain >> >> what is happening and what is not. >> 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. >> >> 4. Soldier ants lets go for it >> >> >> >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kotian, H P" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility >> >> >>> Dear Vikas >>> >>> Str
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
Is anyone of you able to use find as we can do it in word doc; control plus f? I mean can we reach the required target and start readig, copying or editing the stuff in pdf? Pl guide On 6/14/12, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Folks, > It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given us > an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to > cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand > we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical > reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the corporate > sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which > cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal > Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all > over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not > accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen > reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way which > prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to > mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a sighted > people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any solution > to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the > help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think > we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to them > and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this is > also a violation to our right to print accessibility. > Vikas Kapoor, > MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > -- “The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention, but it is the current beneath the water that determines your direction.” Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
All such documents that I do have are locally saved to my disk but still the menu bar doesn't figure out in them. One more thing is that the JAWS cursor also doesn't seem to work there. - Original Message - From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility I believe the menu bar doesn't appear when you open the document in the browser, there's one in Adobe Reader. You can save a local copy of the document by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+S and view the local copy in Adobe Reader to avail the menu bar. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:51 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Thanks Zujar, it's workable to some extent. Actually in such type of documents no menu bar appears on the screen so I presumed we cannot change the zoom but pressing the shortcut did the jod. On 6/14/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala wrote: > Dear Vikas, > > I checked my Vodafone bill that is secured and password protected by > Vodafone when sent through email just after reading your input below. > I could read the bill period, amount due, bill period, my name and so > on. The voice accent is too bad and some discrepancies like "Voclafone", "8 Wind" > instead of "B Wing", etc. > > Note that it produces different results when you scan Screen, Window > and Control - not fair and needs improvement. Also press CTRL+1 to set > the document to actual size and then try scanning. One more pain point > is that you need to scroll the pages manually, the OCR scans only what > appears on screen. > > Best Regards, > Zujar > > An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas > Kapoor > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:55 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > Not a single word is scanned through JAWS OCR in these kinds of files. > - Original Message - > From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > > How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on > this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes > Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last > year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret > it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital > signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be > improved for more accuracy in the coming versions. > > Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming > with NVDA please. > > On 6/14/12, Pamnani wrote: >> OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the >> wagon and we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us >> have read the story >> >> of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. >> The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has >> started. >> >> In the interim we can tackle this little thing. >> >> >> 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the >> registered office address and the name of the big >> shot-CEO/Chairman/MD 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. >> Explain >> >> what is happening and what is not. >> 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. >> >> 4. Soldier ants lets go for it >> >> >> >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kotian, H P" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility >> >> >>> Dear Vikas >>> >>> Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. >>> In >>> >>> keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand >>> accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have >>> to deal >>> >>> with. >>> There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in >>> his wisdom set the security so. >>>
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
I believe the menu bar doesn't appear when you open the document in the browser, there's one in Adobe Reader. You can save a local copy of the document by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+S and view the local copy in Adobe Reader to avail the menu bar. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:51 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Thanks Zujar, it's workable to some extent. Actually in such type of documents no menu bar appears on the screen so I presumed we cannot change the zoom but pressing the shortcut did the jod. On 6/14/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala wrote: > Dear Vikas, > > I checked my Vodafone bill that is secured and password protected by > Vodafone when sent through email just after reading your input below. > I could read the bill period, amount due, bill period, my name and so > on. The voice accent is too bad and some discrepancies like "Voclafone", "8 Wind" > instead of "B Wing", etc. > > Note that it produces different results when you scan Screen, Window > and Control - not fair and needs improvement. Also press CTRL+1 to set > the document to actual size and then try scanning. One more pain point > is that you need to scroll the pages manually, the OCR scans only what > appears on screen. > > Best Regards, > Zujar > > An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas > Kapoor > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:55 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > Not a single word is scanned through JAWS OCR in these kinds of files. > - Original Message - > From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > > How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on > this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes > Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last > year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret > it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital > signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be > improved for more accuracy in the coming versions. > > Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming > with NVDA please. > > On 6/14/12, Pamnani wrote: >> OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the >> wagon and we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us >> have read the story >> >> of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. >> The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has >> started. >> >> In the interim we can tackle this little thing. >> >> >> 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the >> registered office address and the name of the big >> shot-CEO/Chairman/MD 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. >> Explain >> >> what is happening and what is not. >> 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. >> >> 4. Soldier ants lets go for it >> >> >> >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kotian, H P" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility >> >> >>> Dear Vikas >>> >>> Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. >>> In >>> >>> keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand >>> accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have >>> to deal >>> >>> with. >>> There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in >>> his wisdom set the security so. >>> >>> Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. >>> The effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a >>> railway wagon. >>> >>> Harish Kotian >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Vikas Kapoor
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
Thanks Zujar, it's workable to some extent. Actually in such type of documents no menu bar appears on the screen so I presumed we cannot change the zoom but pressing the shortcut did the jod. On 6/14/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala wrote: > Dear Vikas, > > I checked my Vodafone bill that is secured and password protected by > Vodafone when sent through email just after reading your input below. I > could read the bill period, amount due, bill period, my name and so on. The > voice accent is too bad and some discrepancies like "Voclafone", "8 Wind" > instead of "B Wing", etc. > > Note that it produces different results when you scan Screen, Window and > Control - not fair and needs improvement. Also press CTRL+1 to set the > document to actual size and then try scanning. One more pain point is that > you need to scroll the pages manually, the OCR scans only what appears on > screen. > > Best Regards, > Zujar > > An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:55 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > Not a single word is scanned through JAWS OCR in these kinds of files. > ----- Original Message - > From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > > How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on > this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes > Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last > year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret > it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital > signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be > improved for more accuracy in the coming versions. > > Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming > with NVDA please. > > On 6/14/12, Pamnani wrote: >> OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the wagon >> and >> we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us have read the >> story >> >> of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. >> The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has >> started. >> >> In the interim we can tackle this little thing. >> >> >> 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the registered >> office address and the name of the big shot-CEO/Chairman/MD >> 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. >> Explain >> >> what is happening and what is not. >> 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. >> >> 4. Soldier ants lets go for it >> >> >> >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kotian, H P" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility >> >> >>> Dear Vikas >>> >>> Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. >>> In >>> >>> keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand >>> accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to >>> deal >>> >>> with. >>> There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his >>> wisdom set the security so. >>> >>> Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The >>> effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway >>> wagon. >>> >>> Harish Kotian >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 >>> To: Access India >>> Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility >>> >>> Folks, >>> It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has >>> given >>> >>> us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither >>> to >>> >>> cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand >>> we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical >>> reports, bank statements
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
Hi A word of caution, protected PDF files may have some sensitive information. Giving it to such unknown and untrusted sites, you would be exposing yourself to a much larger risk. Bear in mind this aspect too. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: "prakash chand" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility try this url http://www.crackmypdf.com/ do the same, remove the Owner protectionof file. On 6/14/12, Vikas Kapoor wrote: Certainly will try to do so. - Original Message - From: "Pamnani" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the wagon and we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us have read the story of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has started. In the interim we can tackle this little thing. 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the registered office address and the name of the big shot-CEO/Chairman/MD 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. Explain what is happening and what is not. 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. 4. Soldier ants lets go for it Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "Kotian, H P" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Dear Vikas Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to deal with. There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his wisdom set the security so. Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway wagon. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 To: Access India Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Folks, It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to print accessibility. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.i
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Dear Vikas, I checked my Vodafone bill that is secured and password protected by Vodafone when sent through email just after reading your input below. I could read the bill period, amount due, bill period, my name and so on. The voice accent is too bad and some discrepancies like "Voclafone", "8 Wind" instead of "B Wing", etc. Note that it produces different results when you scan Screen, Window and Control - not fair and needs improvement. Also press CTRL+1 to set the document to actual size and then try scanning. One more pain point is that you need to scroll the pages manually, the OCR scans only what appears on screen. Best Regards, Zujar An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh... -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:55 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Not a single word is scanned through JAWS OCR in these kinds of files. - Original Message - From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be improved for more accuracy in the coming versions. Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming with NVDA please. On 6/14/12, Pamnani wrote: > OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the wagon and > we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us have read the > story > > of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. > The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has > started. > > In the interim we can tackle this little thing. > > > 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the registered > office address and the name of the big shot-CEO/Chairman/MD > 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. > Explain > > what is happening and what is not. > 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. > > 4. Soldier ants lets go for it > > > > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kotian, H P" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > >> Dear Vikas >> >> Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In >> >> keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand >> accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to >> deal >> >> with. >> There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his >> wisdom set the security so. >> >> Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The >> effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway >> wagon. >> >> Harish Kotian >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 >> To: Access India >> Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility >> >> Folks, >> It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given >> >> us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither >> to >> >> cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand >> we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical >> reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the >> corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a >> way >> >> which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the >> Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab >> >> all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are >> not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you >> screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a >> >> way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., >> needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen >> >> for a sighted people
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try this url http://www.crackmypdf.com/ do the same, remove the Owner protectionof file. On 6/14/12, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Certainly will try to do so. > - Original Message - > From: "Pamnani" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > > OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the wagon and > we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us have read the story > of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. > The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has started. > In the interim we can tackle this little thing. > > > 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the registered > office address and the name of the big shot-CEO/Chairman/MD > 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. > Explain > what is happening and what is not. > 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. > > 4. Soldier ants lets go for it > > > > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Kotian, H P" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > >> Dear Vikas >> >> Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In >> keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand >> accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to >> deal >> with. >> There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his >> wisdom set the security so. >> >> Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The >> effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway >> wagon. >> >> Harish Kotian >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 >> To: Access India >> Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility >> >> Folks, >> It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given >> us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither >> to >> cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand >> we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical >> reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the >> corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a >> way >> which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the >> Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab >> all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are >> not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you >> screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a >> way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., >> needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen >> for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody >> has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert >> the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the >> last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered >> organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the >> entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to >> print >> accessibility. >> Vikas Kapoor, >> MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, >> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. >> >> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, >> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in >> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If >> you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail >> or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any >> attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments >> for >> the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability >> for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
Certainly will try to do so. - Original Message - From: "Pamnani" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the wagon and we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us have read the story of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has started. In the interim we can tackle this little thing. 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the registered office address and the name of the big shot-CEO/Chairman/MD 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. Explain what is happening and what is not. 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. 4. Soldier ants lets go for it Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "Kotian, H P" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > Dear Vikas > > Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In > keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand > accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to deal > with. > There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his > wisdom set the security so. > > Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The > effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway > wagon. > > Harish Kotian > > > -Original Message- > From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] > Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 > To: Access India > Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > Folks, > It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given > us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to > cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand > we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical > reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the > corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way > which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the > Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab > all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are > not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you > screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a > way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., > needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen > for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody > has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert > the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the > last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered > organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the > entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to print > accessibility. > Vikas Kapoor, > MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. > > Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, > review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in > this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If > you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail > or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any > attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for > the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability > for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home
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Not a single word is scanned through JAWS OCR in these kinds of files. - Original Message - From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be improved for more accuracy in the coming versions. Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming with NVDA please. On 6/14/12, Pamnani wrote: > OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the wagon and > we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us have read the > story > > of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. > The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has > started. > > In the interim we can tackle this little thing. > > > 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the registered > office address and the name of the big shot-CEO/Chairman/MD > 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. > Explain > > what is happening and what is not. > 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. > > 4. Soldier ants lets go for it > > > > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Kotian, H P" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > >> Dear Vikas >> >> Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In >> >> keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand >> accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to >> deal >> >> with. >> There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his >> wisdom set the security so. >> >> Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The >> effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway >> wagon. >> >> Harish Kotian >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 >> To: Access India >> Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility >> >> Folks, >> It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given >> >> us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither >> to >> >> cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand >> we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical >> reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the >> corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a >> way >> >> which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the >> Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab >> >> all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are >> not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you >> screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a >> >> way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., >> needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen >> >> for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody >> >> has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert >> the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the >> last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered >> organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the >> >> entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to >> print >> >> accessibility. >> Vikas Kapoor, >> MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, >> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. >> >> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, >> >> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in >> >
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How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be improved for more accuracy in the coming versions. Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming with NVDA please. On 6/14/12, Pamnani wrote: > OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the wagon and > we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us have read the story > > of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. > The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has started. > > In the interim we can tackle this little thing. > > > 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the registered > office address and the name of the big shot-CEO/Chairman/MD > 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. Explain > > what is happening and what is not. > 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. > > 4. Soldier ants lets go for it > > > > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kotian, H P" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > >> Dear Vikas >> >> Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In >> >> keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand >> accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to deal >> >> with. >> There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his >> wisdom set the security so. >> >> Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The >> effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway >> wagon. >> >> Harish Kotian >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 >> To: Access India >> Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility >> >> Folks, >> It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given >> >> us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to >> >> cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand >> we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical >> reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the >> corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way >> >> which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the >> Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab >> >> all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are >> not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you >> screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a >> >> way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., >> needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen >> >> for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody >> >> has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert >> the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the >> last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered >> organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the >> >> entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to print >> >> accessibility. >> Vikas Kapoor, >> MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, >> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. >> >> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, >> >> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in >> >> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If >> you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail >> >> or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any >> attachments. The recipie
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OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the wagon and we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us have read the story of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining. The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has started. In the interim we can tackle this little thing. 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the registered office address and the name of the big shot-CEO/Chairman/MD 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with technical words. Explain what is happening and what is not. 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add. 4. Soldier ants lets go for it Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "Kotian, H P" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Dear Vikas Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to deal with. There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his wisdom set the security so. Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway wagon. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 To: Access India Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Folks, It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to print accessibility. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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download it from the following link: note: it is a 15 days fully functioned. http://www.sendspace.com/file/nqxhxn - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility excellent utility! Thanks for sharing this! It performed the required task very easily and that too without confronting any accessibility issue. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Please do if possible! - Original Message - From: "Sheik mohammedali" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility There is a PDF restrictions removal utility which removes the restrictions and it will be accessible. called a-pdf-rr. let me know if anybody need its trial (15 days fully functioned). - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > Hi Harish, in no way my objective was to link up the copyright issue with > the inaccessibility of the PDF documents, it was just an ironical > situation > that we all have to face I was talking about. In any case, there have been > variety of other innumerable issues that we confront with respect to the > PDF > documents. > - Original Message - > From: "Kotian, H P" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > > Dear Vikas > > Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In > keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand > accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to deal > with. > There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his > wisdom set the security so. > > Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The > effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway > wagon. > > Harish Kotian > > > -Original Message- > From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] > Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 > To: Access India > Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility > > Folks, > It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given > us > an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to > cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand > we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical > reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the > corporate > sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which > cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal > Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all > over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not > accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen > reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way > which > prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to > mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a > sighted > people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any > solution > to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the > help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think > we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to > them > and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this > is > also a violation to our right to print accessibility. > Vikas Kapoor, > MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. > > Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, > review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in > this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If > you > have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or > telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any > attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for > the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability > for > any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, &
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There is a PDF restrictions removal utility which removes the restrictions and it will be accessible. called a-pdf-rr. let me know if anybody need its trial (15 days fully functioned). - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Hi Harish, in no way my objective was to link up the copyright issue with the inaccessibility of the PDF documents, it was just an ironical situation that we all have to face I was talking about. In any case, there have been variety of other innumerable issues that we confront with respect to the PDF documents. - Original Message - From: "Kotian, H P" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Dear Vikas Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to deal with. There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his wisdom set the security so. Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway wagon. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 To: Access India Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Folks, It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to print accessibility. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
Hi Harish, in no way my objective was to link up the copyright issue with the inaccessibility of the PDF documents, it was just an ironical situation that we all have to face I was talking about. In any case, there have been variety of other innumerable issues that we confront with respect to the PDF documents. - Original Message - From: "Kotian, H P" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Dear Vikas Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to deal with. There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his wisdom set the security so. Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway wagon. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 To: Access India Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Folks, It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to print accessibility. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Count me in as even I have to read heavy PDF files by power industry regulators. And because I can’t navigate, find or edit anything comfortably, I have to invest time in converting them in word doc by Abby Find reader. I think, we can approach the root cause by addressing it to adobe or freedom scientific. On 6/14/12, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Folks, > It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given us > an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to > cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand > we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical > reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the corporate > sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which > cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal > Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all > over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not > accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen > reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way which > prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to > mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a sighted > people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any solution > to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the > help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think > we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to them > and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this is > also a violation to our right to print accessibility. > Vikas Kapoor, > MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > -- “The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention, but it is the current beneath the water that determines your direction.” Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Dear Vikas Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill. In keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand accessible PDF statement. This is a perpetual battle we will have to deal with. There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in his wisdom set the security so. Accessibility is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. The effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a railway wagon. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59 To: Access India Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility Folks, It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to print accessibility. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Vikas, Totally agree. Count me in when there is need to run a sensitization kind of thing. I will be happy to do that on all our behalf. Regards, Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone http://Srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets On 14-Jun-2012, at 3:26 PM, mahendra wrote: > you are right Vikas, we must do something. > At 08:28 AM 6/14/2012, you wrote: >> Folks, >> It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given us >> an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to >> cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand >> we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical >> reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the corporate >> sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which >> cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal >> Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all >> over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not >> accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen >> reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way which >> prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to >> mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a sighted >> people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any solution >> to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the >> help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think >> we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to them >> and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this is >> also a violation to our right to print accessibility. >> Vikas Kapoor, >> MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, >> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > >with warm regards > Mahendra Galani > > skype ID chintu3886 > phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, > address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe >- > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
you are right Vikas, we must do something. At 08:28 AM 6/14/2012, you wrote: Folks, It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has given us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which hither to cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other hand we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the medical reports, bank statements or any official bills because most of the corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents in such a way which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, the Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best accredited lab all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which are not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open them, you screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this documents in a way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection failure., needless to mention that the contents are very much visible on the screen for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If anybody has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to convert the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of course is the last option. I think we, as an organization, or any registered organisation can approach to them and launch the protest on behalf of the entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to print accessibility. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
