Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
Braille is the solution for all your problems. If we buy such units in bulk, the cost will be reduced definitely. - Original Message - From: "Amar Jain" To: Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time? Dear All, Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my study as well. We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the same time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up missing the most tricky things. Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word has its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep playing, sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your brains, but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just pass through your ears but details do not process in your brain). Please note, word is ‘minutest’. Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking frequent breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my job. What solutions you all apply in such situations? I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding others from giving their views. If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken in right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different issue. Look forward for some solution. Regards Amar Jain. Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
Hi Pranay sir, Can you please tell the price of these braille displays? Pankaj sir your idea of fixing a time for lunch, tea breaks etc. seems to be excellent. Jaison sir I will search for that clock message, thanks for contributing to this thread. Friends, if you have more ideas regarding taking breaks when involved in deep reading, please do send them out here. Thanks, Shadab On 11/9/11, Pranav Lal wrote: > Hi Amar, > > A Braille display renders a single line of text. You then need to scroll to > the next line by hitting the arrow keys. As for it being a good solution, > only you can determine that. > > Pranav > > > > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > -- Easy tips for improving English at shadablucknow.blogspot.com My contributions to the press http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#links Shadab Husain interviews Danny Bloom shdb101.blogspot.com Many posts on one page http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=30 Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
Hi Amar, A Braille display renders a single line of text. You then need to scroll to the next line by hitting the arrow keys. As for it being a good solution, only you can determine that. Pranav Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
Amar try reading by para or page. Using the keyboard breaks the monotony. Harish. -Original message- From: Amar Jain Sent: 07/11/2011, 10:01 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time? Dear All, Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my study as well. We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the same time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up missing the most tricky things. Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word has its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep playing, sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your brains, but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just pass through your ears but details do not process in your brain). Please note, word is ‘minutest’. Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking frequent breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my job. What solutions you all apply in such situations? I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding others from giving their views. If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken in right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different issue. Look forward for some solution. Regards Amar Jain. Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
The bengla voice clock posted here a few months back is of good help to set alarm for fixed time intervels. With regards Jaison Bellarmine-Original message- From: Shadab Husain Sent: 2011:11:08, 7:41 am To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time? Amar, we tend to forget taking breaks when engrossed in reading, and true, we don't even want to take breaks, though at every 40 minutes there has to be a break of around 5 minutes. I was fortunate when I was using the demo version of Jaws because then I had no other chance except taking breaks, and they really used to refresh me. Reading sentence by sentence and voice changing are good ideas. But I feel there is no substitute for taking a break every 40 minutes. Though I still am figuring out how to train myself to take breaks! Friends, please give me suggestions that how can one allow or remind himself to take breaks amid deep reading. I would be immensely thankful. With best wishes, Shadab On 11/8/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan wrote: > I divide reading materials in to two types. The first type is that of > reading for leasure and the second type is of readings for studies or > research. The former basically does not require too much of > concentration, whereas the later requires careful consideration of > each paragraph or as you rightly put it sometimes even words. So what > I do is to make sure that I bookmark important passages which may be > in the form of paragraphs or sometimes just one or two sentenses. It > actually helps you to go back to them even if you forget something. I > used to be a fast reader in brail too, but no more. But I would say > that using a brail display in my view would certainly slow you down to > a considerable extent if speed is your priority and that's the case > with me. I am not sure about the refreshment on brail display, but I > read with the speed of 500 words per minute and there's no way I can > loose my concentration by focussing my attention on listening as well > as brail reading. > > Vetri. > > On 07/11/2011, Srikanth Kanuri wrote: >> hi, when i lost concentration i really slow down. i try to read by >> paragraph to paragraph. really don't have the solution as of now but i >> adopt: change the mode of listening I.E from external speakers to >> headphones, section by section reading, pausing for sometime, changing >> synthesizers voice to come out of monotony, decreasing the volume >> sometimes to get out of irritation in ear, listening for music for few >> minutes taking gap and restarting and lastly but not the least shutting >> down the entire PC. >> >> >> On 11/8/2011 12:11 AM, sunil wrote: >>> hi bro, the idea that came after reading your mail is, , use head >>> fones as suggested already, >>> and, a bit teadious, but works for me, read line by line or paragraph >>> by paragraph, and take breaks even for few seconds after every line >>> or paragraph. >>> lets wait for more suggestion since is looking very simple problem, >>> but actually, its affects badly, not only in studies, but also in >>> other related works. >>> >>> On 11/7/11, Amar Jain wrote: >>>> Dear All, >>>> Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my >>>> study >>>> as well. >>>> We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen >>>> readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the >>>> same >>>> time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up >>>> missing >>>> the most tricky things. >>>> Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word >>>> has >>>> its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of >>>> concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is >>>> not >>>> that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen >>>> readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use >>>> Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) >>>> In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep >>>> playing, >>>> sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your >>>> brains, >>>> but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just >>>> pass >>>> through your ears but details do not process in your brain). >>>> Please note, word is ‘minutest’. >>>> Reductio
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
Amar, we tend to forget taking breaks when engrossed in reading, and true, we don't even want to take breaks, though at every 40 minutes there has to be a break of around 5 minutes. I was fortunate when I was using the demo version of Jaws because then I had no other chance except taking breaks, and they really used to refresh me. Reading sentence by sentence and voice changing are good ideas. But I feel there is no substitute for taking a break every 40 minutes. Though I still am figuring out how to train myself to take breaks! Friends, please give me suggestions that how can one allow or remind himself to take breaks amid deep reading. I would be immensely thankful. With best wishes, Shadab On 11/8/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan wrote: > I divide reading materials in to two types. The first type is that of > reading for leasure and the second type is of readings for studies or > research. The former basically does not require too much of > concentration, whereas the later requires careful consideration of > each paragraph or as you rightly put it sometimes even words. So what > I do is to make sure that I bookmark important passages which may be > in the form of paragraphs or sometimes just one or two sentenses. It > actually helps you to go back to them even if you forget something. I > used to be a fast reader in brail too, but no more. But I would say > that using a brail display in my view would certainly slow you down to > a considerable extent if speed is your priority and that's the case > with me. I am not sure about the refreshment on brail display, but I > read with the speed of 500 words per minute and there's no way I can > loose my concentration by focussing my attention on listening as well > as brail reading. > > Vetri. > > On 07/11/2011, Srikanth Kanuri wrote: >> hi, when i lost concentration i really slow down. i try to read by >> paragraph to paragraph. really don't have the solution as of now but i >> adopt: change the mode of listening I.E from external speakers to >> headphones, section by section reading, pausing for sometime, changing >> synthesizers voice to come out of monotony, decreasing the volume >> sometimes to get out of irritation in ear, listening for music for few >> minutes taking gap and restarting and lastly but not the least shutting >> down the entire PC. >> >> >> On 11/8/2011 12:11 AM, sunil wrote: >>> hi bro, the idea that came after reading your mail is, , use head >>> fones as suggested already, >>> and, a bit teadious, but works for me, read line by line or paragraph >>> by paragraph, and take breaks even for few seconds after every line >>> or paragraph. >>> lets wait for more suggestion since is looking very simple problem, >>> but actually, its affects badly, not only in studies, but also in >>> other related works. >>> >>> On 11/7/11, Amar Jain wrote: Dear All, Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my study as well. We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the same time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up missing the most tricky things. Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word has its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep playing, sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your brains, but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just pass through your ears but details do not process in your brain). Please note, word is ‘minutest’. Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking frequent breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my job. What solutions you all apply in such situations? I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding others from giving their views. If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken in right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different issue. Look forward for some solution. Regards Amar Jain.
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
Hai friends, I too had such problem when I had to read for long time. I used to melodies for short intervals and did Yoga for about 10 minutes at an interval of 3 to 4 hours. These helped me very much to refresh myself. With regards Jaison Bellarmine-Original message- From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan Sent: 2011:11:08, 2:12 am To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time? I divide reading materials in to two types. The first type is that of reading for leasure and the second type is of readings for studies or research. The former basically does not require too much of concentration, whereas the later requires careful consideration of each paragraph or as you rightly put it sometimes even words. So what I do is to make sure that I bookmark important passages which may be in the form of paragraphs or sometimes just one or two sentenses. It actually helps you to go back to them even if you forget something. I used to be a fast reader in brail too, but no more. But I would say that using a brail display in my view would certainly slow you down to a considerable extent if speed is your priority and that's the case with me. I am not sure about the refreshment on brail display, but I read with the speed of 500 words per minute and there's no way I can loose my concentration by focussing my attention on listening as well as brail reading. Vetri. On 07/11/2011, Srikanth Kanuri wrote: > hi, when i lost concentration i really slow down. i try to read by > paragraph to paragraph. really don't have the solution as of now but i > adopt: change the mode of listening I.E from external speakers to > headphones, section by section reading, pausing for sometime, changing > synthesizers voice to come out of monotony, decreasing the volume > sometimes to get out of irritation in ear, listening for music for few > minutes taking gap and restarting and lastly but not the least shutting > down the entire PC. > > > On 11/8/2011 12:11 AM, sunil wrote: >> hi bro, the idea that came after reading your mail is, , use head >> fones as suggested already, >> and, a bit teadious, but works for me, read line by line or paragraph >> by paragraph, and take breaks even for few seconds after every line >> or paragraph. >> lets wait for more suggestion since is looking very simple problem, >> but actually, its affects badly, not only in studies, but also in >> other related works. >> >> On 11/7/11, Amar Jain wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my >>> study >>> as well. >>> We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen >>> readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the >>> same >>> time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up >>> missing >>> the most tricky things. >>> Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word >>> has >>> its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of >>> concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not >>> that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen >>> readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use >>> Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) >>> In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep >>> playing, >>> sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your >>> brains, >>> but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just >>> pass >>> through your ears but details do not process in your brain). >>> Please note, word is ‘minutest’. >>> Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking >>> frequent >>> breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of >>> headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my >>> job. >>> What solutions you all apply in such situations? >>> I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some >>> solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding >>> others >>> from giving their views. >>> If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken >>> in >>> right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. >>> And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this >>> problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different >>> i
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
I divide reading materials in to two types. The first type is that of reading for leasure and the second type is of readings for studies or research. The former basically does not require too much of concentration, whereas the later requires careful consideration of each paragraph or as you rightly put it sometimes even words. So what I do is to make sure that I bookmark important passages which may be in the form of paragraphs or sometimes just one or two sentenses. It actually helps you to go back to them even if you forget something. I used to be a fast reader in brail too, but no more. But I would say that using a brail display in my view would certainly slow you down to a considerable extent if speed is your priority and that's the case with me. I am not sure about the refreshment on brail display, but I read with the speed of 500 words per minute and there's no way I can loose my concentration by focussing my attention on listening as well as brail reading. Vetri. On 07/11/2011, Srikanth Kanuri wrote: > hi, when i lost concentration i really slow down. i try to read by > paragraph to paragraph. really don't have the solution as of now but i > adopt: change the mode of listening I.E from external speakers to > headphones, section by section reading, pausing for sometime, changing > synthesizers voice to come out of monotony, decreasing the volume > sometimes to get out of irritation in ear, listening for music for few > minutes taking gap and restarting and lastly but not the least shutting > down the entire PC. > > > On 11/8/2011 12:11 AM, sunil wrote: >> hi bro, the idea that came after reading your mail is, , use head >> fones as suggested already, >> and, a bit teadious, but works for me, read line by line or paragraph >> by paragraph, and take breaks even for few seconds after every line >> or paragraph. >> lets wait for more suggestion since is looking very simple problem, >> but actually, its affects badly, not only in studies, but also in >> other related works. >> >> On 11/7/11, Amar Jain wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my >>> study >>> as well. >>> We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen >>> readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the >>> same >>> time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up >>> missing >>> the most tricky things. >>> Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word >>> has >>> its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of >>> concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not >>> that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen >>> readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use >>> Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) >>> In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep >>> playing, >>> sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your >>> brains, >>> but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just >>> pass >>> through your ears but details do not process in your brain). >>> Please note, word is ‘minutest’. >>> Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking >>> frequent >>> breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of >>> headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my >>> job. >>> What solutions you all apply in such situations? >>> I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some >>> solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding >>> others >>> from giving their views. >>> If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken >>> in >>> right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. >>> And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this >>> problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different >>> issue. >>> Look forward for some solution. >>> Regards >>> Amar Jain. >>> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: >>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >> > > > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscrib
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
hi, when i lost concentration i really slow down. i try to read by paragraph to paragraph. really don't have the solution as of now but i adopt: change the mode of listening I.E from external speakers to headphones, section by section reading, pausing for sometime, changing synthesizers voice to come out of monotony, decreasing the volume sometimes to get out of irritation in ear, listening for music for few minutes taking gap and restarting and lastly but not the least shutting down the entire PC. On 11/8/2011 12:11 AM, sunil wrote: hi bro, the idea that came after reading your mail is, , use head fones as suggested already, and, a bit teadious, but works for me, read line by line or paragraph by paragraph, and take breaks even for few seconds after every line or paragraph. lets wait for more suggestion since is looking very simple problem, but actually, its affects badly, not only in studies, but also in other related works. On 11/7/11, Amar Jain wrote: Dear All, Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my study as well. We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the same time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up missing the most tricky things. Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word has its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep playing, sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your brains, but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just pass through your ears but details do not process in your brain). Please note, word is ‘minutest’. Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking frequent breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my job. What solutions you all apply in such situations? I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding others from giving their views. If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken in right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different issue. Look forward for some solution. Regards Amar Jain. Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
hi bro, the idea that came after reading your mail is, , use head fones as suggested already, and, a bit teadious, but works for me, read line by line or paragraph by paragraph, and take breaks even for few seconds after every line or paragraph. lets wait for more suggestion since is looking very simple problem, but actually, its affects badly, not only in studies, but also in other related works. On 11/7/11, Amar Jain wrote: > Dear All, > Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my study > as well. > We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen > readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the same > time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up missing > the most tricky things. > Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word has > its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of > concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not > that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen > readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use > Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) > In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep playing, > sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your brains, > but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just pass > through your ears but details do not process in your brain). > Please note, word is ‘minutest’. > Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking frequent > breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of > headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my job. > What solutions you all apply in such situations? > I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some > solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding others > from giving their views. > If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken in > right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. > And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this > problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different > issue. > Look forward for some solution. > Regards > Amar Jain. > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > -- "In the lonely path of broken dreams, Its the heaven that I am searching for.. All these stars seems dull to me, Its the moon that I am searching for.. There is a crowd around me at all times, Its a soul that I am searching for.. My life is like an endless road, Its a destination that I m searching for.. Dont know what is it that I've lost, Maybe it is ME that I am searching for...!" Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
Hi Amar, One option is to use sounds for indicating various proof reading items such as capitalization. This may provide some variety. If sounds do not work for you, then try using different voices. Barring this, try a Braille display to see if that helps. Pranav -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:02 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time? Dear All, Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my study as well. We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the same time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up missing the most tricky things. Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word has its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep playing, sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your brains, but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just pass through your ears but details do not process in your brain). Please note, word is ‘minutest’. Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking frequent breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my job. What solutions you all apply in such situations? I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding others from giving their views. If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken in right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different issue. Look forward for some solution. Regards Amar Jain. Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
Hi amar bhaia when I read some importent tutorials with jaws I feel that i am more comfortable with ear phones rather than speakers and head phones after 20 minuts i just pause for a while and revise importent points till now it is not giving me any problam regards On 11/7/11, VIVEK KAVYA wrote: > dear friend, even i have faced such problem during my study days, > during those days there were no computers we used to relai on tape > recorders and braille notes. while listening to notes on screen > readers at the same time you should read braille notes, now do not ask > where will we find braille notes we should prepare notes ourself. the > main problem now days is that students totally depend on audio > materials they should use reading also which will increase > consentration . > > On 11/7/11, Amar Jain wrote: >> Dear All, >> Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my >> study >> as well. >> We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen >> readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the >> same >> time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up >> missing >> the most tricky things. >> Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word has >> its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of >> concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not >> that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen >> readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use >> Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) >> In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep playing, >> sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your >> brains, >> but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just >> pass >> through your ears but details do not process in your brain). >> Please note, word is ‘minutest’. >> Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking >> frequent >> breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of >> headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my >> job. >> What solutions you all apply in such situations? >> I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some >> solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding others >> from giving their views. >> If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken in >> right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. >> And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this >> problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different >> issue. >> Look forward for some solution. >> Regards >> Amar Jain. >> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: >> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > -- Ajay Minocha Mob : +91-7827188455 E mail : ajayminoc...@gmail.com ajaymanu...@gmail.com Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Screen Readers: Maintaining careful listening for long time?
dear friend, even i have faced such problem during my study days, during those days there were no computers we used to relai on tape recorders and braille notes. while listening to notes on screen readers at the same time you should read braille notes, now do not ask where will we find braille notes we should prepare notes ourself. the main problem now days is that students totally depend on audio materials they should use reading also which will increase consentration . On 11/7/11, Amar Jain wrote: > Dear All, > Looking for experts’ views in this matter. This problem relates to my study > as well. > We understand the fact that we heavily rely on audio since we use screen > readers. Now when you have to work with them for long hours, and at the same > time you have to maintain careful reading, so that you don’t end up missing > the most tricky things. > Given the fact that I am in one of those field where every single word has > its own value, I am at great loss if after some time, my same power of > concentration starts reducing. (Please understand the fact that it is not > that I am not able to comprehend the things, nor it is so that screen > readers miss the things due to fast speed, nor it is so that since I use > Jaws at 62% (109) with all punctuations, I am missing the things.) > In such a case, what is happening is that since the audio is keep playing, > sometimes you feel that you are getting the whole thing fit in your brains, > but actually some of the minutest detail you start missing. (they just pass > through your ears but details do not process in your brain). > Please note, word is ‘minutest’. > Reduction in speed is not a good solution, nor I can afford taking frequent > breaks (specially when I start working). Switching to speakers instead of > headphones can be temporary solution till the time I don’t enter in my job. > What solutions you all apply in such situations? > I feel specially those who are into proof reading can suggest me some > solution of this problem. But that doesn’t mean that I am excluding others > from giving their views. > If my problem is understood at the appropriate level and if it is taken in > right way, then I am sure to see a very healthy discussion on this point. > And I know this fact that there will be many who must have faced this > problem, whether they realize it or not, that is all together a different > issue. > Look forward for some solution. > Regards > Amar Jain. > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
