Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-27 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi,

I have had positive experiences with freedom scientific tech support so, it
is worth writing to them.

Pranav  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Syed Imran
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:50 AM
To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

But do they accept our suggestions and implement it?

For your success
Syed Imran

- Original Message - 
From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. 
> Turnining
> off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras 
> then
> you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff.
> Rohit  m
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>
>
>> Hi Harish
>>
>> Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this
>> feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off.
>>
>> For your success
>> Syed Imran
>> - Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Syed
>>> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z.
>>> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from
>>> the
>>> virtual buffer.
>>> Harish.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Moiz
>>>>
>>>> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you 
>>>> running
>>>> Windows XP? If not, no problem.
>>>> Just try this and let us know
>>>>
>>>> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit
>>>> Jaws.
>>>> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter
>>>> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a
>>>> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP.
>>>> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you
>>>> already
>>>> have opened
>>>> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive,
>>>> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C
>>>> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator.
>>>> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result.
>>>> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't
>>>> work
>>>> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your
>>>> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com?
>>>>
>>>> For your success
>>>> Syed Imran
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
>>>>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to
>>>>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the
>>>>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening.
>>>>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this
>>>>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected.
>>>>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what.
>>>>> I'm clueless.
>>>>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was
>>>>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any
>>>>> difference?
>>>>> Moiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 11
>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530
>>>>> From: "Syed Imran" <
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
>>>>> To: <
>>>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-27 Thread Syed Imran
Dear Moiz

Do you have Westlaw's password? If yes, then I might have a solution to 
resolve your issue. Just let me know in either case.
I think  we will have to try downloading from a download manager. Just try 
to download a free download manager from this URL:

http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/scripts/downl.php?file_id=1

(If there's any problem with the given link, just copy it to your Internet 
Explorer's address bar and hit enter)
I'll tell you about it more when you reply to this next time.
For your success
Syed Imran

- Original Message - 
From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Hello friends.
> Turning the virtual curser off, the select all option does not work on
> that website. It is a password protected international law website.
> www. westlaw.com
> The moment I put it on again, the control all command works well...but
> then its the same old story once again.  There is no end to my agonies
> it seems.
> Thanks a lot for the patient hearing.
> Moiz.
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in 


To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-27 Thread moiz tundawalla
Hello friends.
Turning the virtual curser off, the select all option does not work on
that website. It is a password protected international law website.
www. westlaw.com
The moment I put it on again, the control all command works well...but
then its the same old story once again.  There is no end to my agonies
it seems.
Thanks a lot for the patient hearing.
Moiz.

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread Vetrivel Murugan, Adhimoolam
Being the authorized user I can forward the issues to the freedom 
scientific. But it would be good if someone could structure the question 
properly and send it over to me. I could do it myself, but under a bit of 
tight schedule at the moment.

- Original Message - 
From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


But do they accept our suggestions and implement it?

For your success
Syed Imran

- Original Message - 
From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific.
> Turnining
> off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras
> then
> you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff.
> Rohit  m
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>
>
>> Hi Harish
>>
>> Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this
>> feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off.
>>
>> For your success
>> Syed Imran
>> ----- Original Message - 
>> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Syed
>>> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z.
>>> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from
>>> the
>>> virtual buffer.
>>> Harish.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Moiz
>>>>
>>>> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you
>>>> running
>>>> Windows XP? If not, no problem.
>>>> Just try this and let us know
>>>>
>>>> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit
>>>> Jaws.
>>>> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter
>>>> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a
>>>> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP.
>>>> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you
>>>> already
>>>> have opened
>>>> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive,
>>>> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C
>>>> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator.
>>>> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result.
>>>> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't
>>>> work
>>>> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your
>>>> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com?
>>>>
>>>> For your success
>>>> Syed Imran
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
>>>>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to
>>>>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the
>>>>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening.
>>>>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this
>>>>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected.
>>>>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what.
>>>>> I'm clueless.
>>>>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was
>>>>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any
>>>>> difference?
>>>>> Moiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 11
>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530
>>>>> From: "Syed Imran" <
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subje

Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread Syed Imran
But do they accept our suggestions and implement it?

For your success
Syed Imran

- Original Message - 
From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. 
> Turnining
> off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras 
> then
> you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff.
> Rohit  m
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>
>
>> Hi Harish
>>
>> Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this
>> feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off.
>>
>> For your success
>> Syed Imran
>> - Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Syed
>>> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z.
>>> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from
>>> the
>>> virtual buffer.
>>> Harish.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Moiz
>>>>
>>>> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you 
>>>> running
>>>> Windows XP? If not, no problem.
>>>> Just try this and let us know
>>>>
>>>> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit
>>>> Jaws.
>>>> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter
>>>> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a
>>>> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP.
>>>> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you
>>>> already
>>>> have opened
>>>> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive,
>>>> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C
>>>> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator.
>>>> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result.
>>>> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't
>>>> work
>>>> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your
>>>> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com?
>>>>
>>>> For your success
>>>> Syed Imran
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello sir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
>>>>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to
>>>>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the
>>>>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening.
>>>>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this
>>>>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected.
>>>>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what.
>>>>> I'm clueless.
>>>>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was
>>>>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any
>>>>> difference?
>>>>> Moiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 11
>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530
>>>>> From: "Syed Imran" <
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
>>>>> To: <
>>>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>
>>>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>   reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Moiz and my dear list members,
>>>>>
>>>>> This

Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread Rohit Trivedi
Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. Turnining 
off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras then 
you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff.
Rohit  m
- Original Message - 
From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Hi Harish
>
> Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this
> feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off.
>
> For your success
> Syed Imran
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>
>
>> Hi Syed
>> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z.
>> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from
>> the
>> virtual buffer.
>> Harish.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Moiz
>>>
>>> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running
>>> Windows XP? If not, no problem.
>>> Just try this and let us know
>>>
>>> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit
>>> Jaws.
>>> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter
>>> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a
>>> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP.
>>> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you 
>>> already
>>> have opened
>>> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive,
>>> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C
>>> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator.
>>> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result.
>>> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't
>>> work
>>> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your
>>> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com?
>>>
>>> For your success
>>> Syed Imran
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello sir.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
>>>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to
>>>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the
>>>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening.
>>>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this
>>>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected.
>>>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what.
>>>> I'm clueless.
>>>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was
>>>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any
>>>> difference?
>>>> Moiz.
>>>>
>>>> Message: 11
>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530
>>>> From: "Syed Imran" <
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
>>>> To: <
>>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>
>>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>   reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> Hello Moiz and my dear list members,
>>>>
>>>> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any
>>>> data
>>>> from web pages in its original  format including tables and hyperlinks.
>>>> I
>>>> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy
>>>> the
>>>> exact data appearing  on the screen. I further make myself clear to you
>>>> that
>>>> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I 
>>>> hope
>>>> you
>>>> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail
>>>> carefully.
>>>> Before telling you how to c

Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss
 Dear Moiz,  
 I have tried several  times  to copy articles from website to MS word. my 
attempts yielded no good fruits.  
to overcome this barrier, Now-a-days, I am copying an article from a website to 
my e-mail edit boxes. It serves the purpose.  
Regds 
Sathiyaprakash  

>>> "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/26/2007 3:04 AM >>>
Hello sir.

Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to
exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the
journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening.
Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this
is what I did but the thing is not getting selected.
Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what.
I'm clueless.
Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was
said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any
difference?
Moiz.

Message: 11
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530
From: "Syed Imran" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
   reply-type=original

Hello Moiz and my dear list members,

This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data
from web pages in its original  format including tables and hyperlinks. I
assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the
exact data appearing  on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that
the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you
don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully.
Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious
technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents
accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC
cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links,
formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called
"Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on
a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a
seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a
sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an
example.
I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly
a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us.
I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to
understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet
explorer

I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not
virtualised)
--

The process of pickling fruits and vegetables:

Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The
fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt
is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are
added. The pickle
are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir
and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is
used.

In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of
the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen.
But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to
present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an
extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the
same in the 2nd illustration:
ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised)

The process of pickling fruits and vegetables:

Some
LINK  fruits and
LINK  vegetables
preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut
into pieces and enough salt
is added. These pieces are kept in the sun.
LINK  Oil
and
LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a
Link  dry jar
with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the
jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used.



So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising.
However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the
text broken something like this:

Some
fruits and
vegetables
Instead of:
Some fruits and vegetables
We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then
back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time.
Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from
internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A
to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact
information without line or page breaks.

1. Open the web page from which you want to copy

2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu.

3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A.
We 

Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread Syed Imran
Hi Harish

Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this 
feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off.

For your success
Syed Imran
- Original Message - 
From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Hi Syed
> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z.
> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from 
> the
> virtual buffer.
> Harish.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>
>
>> Hi Moiz
>>
>> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running
>> Windows XP? If not, no problem.
>> Just try this and let us know
>>
>> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit
>> Jaws.
>> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter
>> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a
>> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP.
>> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already
>> have opened
>> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive,
>> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C
>> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator.
>> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result.
>> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't
>> work
>> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your
>> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com?
>>
>> For your success
>> Syed Imran
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>>
>>
>>> Hello sir.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
>>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to
>>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the
>>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening.
>>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this
>>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected.
>>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what.
>>> I'm clueless.
>>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was
>>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any
>>> difference?
>>> Moiz.
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530
>>> From: "Syed Imran" <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
>>> To: <
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>
>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>   reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Hello Moiz and my dear list members,
>>>
>>> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any
>>> data
>>> from web pages in its original  format including tables and hyperlinks. 
>>> I
>>> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy
>>> the
>>> exact data appearing  on the screen. I further make myself clear to you
>>> that
>>> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope
>>> you
>>> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail
>>> carefully.
>>> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious
>>> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web
>>> documents
>>> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC
>>> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings,
>>> links,
>>> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called
>>> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements
>>> on
>>> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a
>>> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a
>>> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by
>>> an
>>> example.
>>

Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread Harish Kotian
Hi Syed
A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z.
Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from the 
virtual buffer.
Harish.


- Original Message - 
From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Hi Moiz
>
> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running
> Windows XP? If not, no problem.
> Just try this and let us know
>
> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit 
> Jaws.
> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter
> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a
> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP.
> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already
> have opened
> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive,
> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C
> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator.
> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result.
> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't 
> work
> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your
> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com?
>
> For your success
> Syed Imran
> - Original Message - 
> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
>
>
>> Hello sir.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to
>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the
>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening.
>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this
>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected.
>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what.
>> I'm clueless.
>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was
>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any
>> difference?
>> Moiz.
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530
>> From: "Syed Imran" <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
>> To: <
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>   reply-type=original
>>
>> Hello Moiz and my dear list members,
>>
>> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any 
>> data
>> from web pages in its original  format including tables and hyperlinks. I
>> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy
>> the
>> exact data appearing  on the screen. I further make myself clear to you
>> that
>> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope
>> you
>> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail 
>> carefully.
>> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious
>> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web 
>> documents
>> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC
>> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings,
>> links,
>> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called
>> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements
>> on
>> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a
>> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a
>> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by
>> an
>> example.
>> I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how
>> exactly
>> a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for
>> us.
>> I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to
>> understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet
>> explorer
>>
>> I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not
>> virtualised)
>> --
>>
>> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables:
>>
>> Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The
>> fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough
>> salt
>> is added. These pi

Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread Syed Imran
Hi Moiz

Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running 
Windows XP? If not, no problem.
Just try this and let us know

1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws.
2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter
You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a 
screen-reading software comes with Windows XP.
3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already 
have opened
Making sure that your Jaws is inactive,
4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C
5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator.
6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result.
I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work
Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your 
collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com?

For your success
Syed Imran
- Original Message - 
From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Hello sir.
>
> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to
> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the
> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening.
> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this
> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected.
> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what.
> I'm clueless.
> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was
> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any
> difference?
> Moiz.
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530
> From: "Syed Imran" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
> To: <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>   reply-type=original
>
> Hello Moiz and my dear list members,
>
> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data
> from web pages in its original  format including tables and hyperlinks. I
> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy 
> the
> exact data appearing  on the screen. I further make myself clear to you 
> that
> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope 
> you
> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully.
> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious
> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents
> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC
> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, 
> links,
> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called
> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements 
> on
> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a
> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a
> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by 
> an
> example.
> I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how 
> exactly
> a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for 
> us.
> I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to
> understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet
> explorer
>
> I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not
> virtualised)
> --
>
> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables:
>
> Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The
> fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough 
> salt
> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are
> added. The pickle
> are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir
> and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is
> used.
>
> In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of
> the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen.
> But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line 
> to
> present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an
> extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the
> same in the 2nd illustration:
> ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised)
>
> The pr

Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread Syed Imran
Moiz

What is it's URL (universal resource locator)?

For your success
Syed Imran
- Original Message - 
From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Hello.
> There's the answer. Yes the site is password protected. Is there no
> other way out? I'm being greatly inconvenienced by the unnecessary
> line breaks.
> Moiz.
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:31:44 +0530
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [AI]  page breaks with jaws.
> To:
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi,
>
> I also see no reason as to why 'edit menu option' should not work. 
> However,
> with whatever my little experience, it doesn't when you are using a 
> password
> protected site.  In such cases, only control A, Cont. C &Cont. V will 
> work.
>
> --
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in 


To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread moiz tundawalla
Hello.
There's the answer. Yes the site is password protected. Is there no
other way out? I'm being greatly inconvenienced by the unnecessary
line breaks.
Moiz.

Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:31:44 +0530
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [AI]  page breaks with jaws.
To:
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=iso-8859-1

Hi,

I also see no reason as to why 'edit menu option' should not work.  However,
with whatever my little experience, it doesn't when you are using a password
protected site.  In such cases, only control A, Cont. C &Cont. V will work.

--

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-26 Thread moiz tundawalla
Hello sir.

Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to
exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the
journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening.
Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this
is what I did but the thing is not getting selected.
Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what.
I'm clueless.
Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was
said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any
difference?
Moiz.

Message: 11
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530
From: "Syed Imran" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
   reply-type=original

Hello Moiz and my dear list members,

This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data
from web pages in its original  format including tables and hyperlinks. I
assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the
exact data appearing  on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that
the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you
don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully.
Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious
technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents
accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC
cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links,
formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called
"Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on
a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a
seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a
sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an
example.
I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly
a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us.
I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to
understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet
explorer

I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not
virtualised)
--

The process of pickling fruits and vegetables:

Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The
fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt
is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are
added. The pickle
are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir
and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is
used.

In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of
the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen.
But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to
present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an
extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the
same in the 2nd illustration:
ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised)

The process of pickling fruits and vegetables:

Some
LINK  fruits and
LINK  vegetables
preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut
into pieces and enough salt
is added. These pieces are kept in the sun.
LINK  Oil
and
LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a
Link  dry jar
with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the
jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used.



So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising.
However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the
text broken something like this:

Some
fruits and
vegetables
Instead of:
Some fruits and vegetables
We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then
back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time.
Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from
internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A
to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact
information without line or page breaks.

1. Open the web page from which you want to copy

2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu.

3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A.
We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because
Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be
the cause of your problem.

4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C.
Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the edit
menu, the data gets d

Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-25 Thread Harish Kotian
Hi everyone

This is basically  a problem with I. E.  Probably using any other browsers 
like Firefox Or Lynx should not have problems like this.
Harish

- Original Message - 
From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Hello.
> I dont think any alternate method will work over there. I'll try to
> repair jaws and then see what happens.
> In the mean while, do let me know if any other ideas strike you.
> Moiz.
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:37:34 +0530
> From: "Viraj Kafle" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
> To: <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>   reply-type=original
>
> Can you give us the website. The problem is that there seems to be no 
> exact
> solution as such, but some alternative can be reached at if we look at the
> website collectively.
>
> Regards.
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> 



To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-25 Thread Viraj Kafle
If you simply want to save articles for the purpose of reading, here is one 
option.

Don't bother about copying it in the word document. Just click "save as" in 
the file menu. As the dialogue box appears, press tab to move to the "save 
as type" and select "html only" and save the file in your chosen location.

Now you can simply open the file and read. You can press N to land directly 
at the text.

- Original Message - 
From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Hello.
> I dont think any alternate method will work over there. I'll try to
> repair jaws and then see what happens.
> In the mean while, do let me know if any other ideas strike you.
> Moiz.
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:37:34 +0530
> From: "Viraj Kafle" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
> To: <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>   reply-type=original
>
> Can you give us the website. The problem is that there seems to be no 
> exact
> solution as such, but some alternative can be reached at if we look at the
> website collectively.
>
> Regards.
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in 


To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-25 Thread Vetrivel Murugan, Adhimoolam
I don't think that it will work. That's like destroying/rebuilding the 
beautiful house in search of a non-existing gold mine.

- Original Message - 
From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


Hello.
I dont think any alternate method will work over there. I'll try to
repair jaws and then see what happens.
In the mean while, do let me know if any other ideas strike you.
Moiz.

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:37:34 +0530
From: "Viraj Kafle" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
   reply-type=original

Can you give us the website. The problem is that there seems to be no exact
solution as such, but some alternative can be reached at if we look at the
website collectively.

Regards.

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 
the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in 


To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-25 Thread moiz tundawalla
Hello.
I dont think any alternate method will work over there. I'll try to
repair jaws and then see what happens.
In the mean while, do let me know if any other ideas strike you.
Moiz.

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:37:34 +0530
From: "Viraj Kafle" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
   reply-type=original

Can you give us the website. The problem is that there seems to be no exact
solution as such, but some alternative can be reached at if we look at the
website collectively.

Regards.

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-25 Thread Viraj Kafle
Can you give us the website. The problem is that there seems to be no exact 
solution as such, but some alternative can be reached at if we look at the 
website collectively.

Regards.

- Original Message - 
From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Hello sir.
> I'll be temporarily fine even if the select all option were to work on
> my computer. Whether jaws is acting wierdly or whether I'm unable to
> grasp the thing properly...I am not sure.
> This method is intrinsic for a research that I have undertaken. I need
> to access online international law journals for important articles on
> the subject of my study. Saving the web page is not available as an
> option. So I somehow need to copy the thing and have the same in a
> word document. The page and line breaks tend to have a deleterious
> effect on my concentration and efficiency.
> What do I do?
>
> Moiz.
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:21:41 +0530
> From: "Viraj Kafle" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
> To: <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>   reply-type=original
>
> I think the edit menu option works only if we are copying the whole 
> webpage.
> In that case, simply going to the edit menu and clicking the select all
> option, then going to the edit menu and clicking the copy option, and
> finally going to the word document option and pasting the copied content
> works very well. This is probably because, in this method,  the system
> copies the content of the webpage as it is and not the way jaws 
> virtualises
> it. However, when it comes to copy the selected texts and not the entire
> webpage, then I think this method hardly works. You need to select the
> content with the usual shift down errow, go to the edit menu and do the
> rest. Since the selected text is virtualised, there is an ample chance of
> the layout being spoiled in the word document.
>
> May I know why do you need to copy the internet content in the word
> document? Probably your main purpose will help us more to suggest
> alternative methods.
>
> Regards.
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in 


To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-25 Thread moiz tundawalla
Hello sir.
I'll be temporarily fine even if the select all option were to work on
my computer. Whether jaws is acting wierdly or whether I'm unable to
grasp the thing properly...I am not sure.
This method is intrinsic for a research that I have undertaken. I need
to access online international law journals for important articles on
the subject of my study. Saving the web page is not available as an
option. So I somehow need to copy the thing and have the same in a
word document. The page and line breaks tend to have a deleterious
effect on my concentration and efficiency.
What do I do?

Moiz.

Message: 4
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:21:41 +0530
From: "Viraj Kafle" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
   reply-type=original

I think the edit menu option works only if we are copying the whole webpage.
In that case, simply going to the edit menu and clicking the select all
option, then going to the edit menu and clicking the copy option, and
finally going to the word document option and pasting the copied content
works very well. This is probably because, in this method,  the system
copies the content of the webpage as it is and not the way jaws virtualises
it. However, when it comes to copy the selected texts and not the entire
webpage, then I think this method hardly works. You need to select the
content with the usual shift down errow, go to the edit menu and do the
rest. Since the selected text is virtualised, there is an ample chance of
the layout being spoiled in the word document.

May I know why do you need to copy the internet content in the word
document? Probably your main purpose will help us more to suggest
alternative methods.

Regards.

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-25 Thread Vetrivel Murugan, Adhimoolam
That's correct. And also when you copy the entire web page through the 
layout method, then it copies the links of the original page in a weered 
table format and it makes really irritating.

- Original Message - 
From: "Viraj Kafle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


I think the edit menu option works only if we are copying the whole webpage.
In that case, simply going to the edit menu and clicking the select all
option, then going to the edit menu and clicking the copy option, and
finally going to the word document option and pasting the copied content
works very well. This is probably because, in this method,  the system
copies the content of the webpage as it is and not the way jaws virtualises
it. However, when it comes to copy the selected texts and not the entire
webpage, then I think this method hardly works. You need to select the
content with the usual shift down errow, go to the edit menu and do the
rest. Since the selected text is virtualised, there is an ample chance of
the layout being spoiled in the word document.

May I know why do you need to copy the internet content in the word
document? Probably your main purpose will help us more to suggest
alternative methods.

Regards.


- Original Message - 
From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Thanks a lot for the responses.
> The edit menu wala option is not working on my computer. Ideally it
> should, I'm clueless as to where the thing is going wrong.
> Please help me out of it for the documents that I need to read are
> huge and using the control down arrow option will consume a lot of
> time.
> Thanks once again.
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:31:22 +0530
> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
> To: <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Instead of using the copy cut paste command through controlC and controlV,
> just do it from the edit menu, you'll retain the exact layout of the page
> in
> the word which you have seen on the net. Although this may not sound
> logical
> in the first place, using copy cut paste through controlC and controlV is
> very much different from doing the same using the edit menu in terms of
> producing results.
> Vikas Kapoor,
> MSN ID:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Yahoo ID:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype ID: dl_vikas
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 
the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in 


To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-24 Thread Viraj Kafle
I think the edit menu option works only if we are copying the whole webpage. 
In that case, simply going to the edit menu and clicking the select all 
option, then going to the edit menu and clicking the copy option, and 
finally going to the word document option and pasting the copied content 
works very well. This is probably because, in this method,  the system 
copies the content of the webpage as it is and not the way jaws virtualises 
it. However, when it comes to copy the selected texts and not the entire 
webpage, then I think this method hardly works. You need to select the 
content with the usual shift down errow, go to the edit menu and do the 
rest. Since the selected text is virtualised, there is an ample chance of 
the layout being spoiled in the word document.

May I know why do you need to copy the internet content in the word 
document? Probably your main purpose will help us more to suggest 
alternative methods.

Regards.


- Original Message - 
From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.


> Thanks a lot for the responses.
> The edit menu wala option is not working on my computer. Ideally it
> should, I'm clueless as to where the thing is going wrong.
> Please help me out of it for the documents that I need to read are
> huge and using the control down arrow option will consume a lot of
> time.
> Thanks once again.
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:31:22 +0530
> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
> To: <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Instead of using the copy cut paste command through controlC and controlV,
> just do it from the edit menu, you'll retain the exact layout of the page 
> in
> the word which you have seen on the net. Although this may not sound 
> logical
> in the first place, using copy cut paste through controlC and controlV is
> very much different from doing the same using the edit menu in terms of
> producing results.
> Vikas Kapoor,
> MSN ID:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Yahoo ID:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype ID: dl_vikas
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in 


To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.

2007-04-24 Thread moiz tundawalla
Thanks a lot for the responses.
The edit menu wala option is not working on my computer. Ideally it
should, I'm clueless as to where the thing is going wrong.
Please help me out of it for the documents that I need to read are
huge and using the control down arrow option will consume a lot of
time.
Thanks once again.

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:31:22 +0530
From: "Vikas Kapoor" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="iso-8859-1"

Instead of using the copy cut paste command through controlC and controlV,
just do it from the edit menu, you'll retain the exact layout of the page in
the word which you have seen on the net. Although this may not sound logical
in the first place, using copy cut paste through controlC and controlV is
very much different from doing the same using the edit menu in terms of
producing results.
Vikas Kapoor,
MSN ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype ID: dl_vikas
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in