RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003 up grade attempt

2004-08-05 Thread Vermeire Bart
Hi

SAP last year has published a reviewed version of their schema
extension. They renamed uid to SAP-uid.
That schema version is SAP Active Directory Schema Extension Script for
EP 5.0 rev 3.6.7/94301.
We run it in production without any problems. Mail me directly if you
need a copy.

Bart

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

Ken:

Do you recall which version of the SAP portal it was that made the
schema changes?  I'm asking since we are testing the SAP portal against
AD in our lab with our SAP folks.  I know that the initial version that
they came to us with required a schema change (version 5?) and before we
got it set up they came back with the newer version that supposedly did
not require a change.  IIRC that was version 6.  

Diane 

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

Well side by side we see:

MS UID

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=X
changetype: ntdsSchemaAdd
objectClass: attributeSchema
ldapDisplayName: uid
adminDisplayName: uid
adminDescription: A user ID.
attributeId: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.1
attributeSyntax: 2.5.5.12
omSyntax: 64
isSingleValued: FALSE
systemOnly: FALSE
searchFlags: 8
schemaIdGuid:: oPywC4ken0KQGhQTiU2fWQ==
attributeSecurityGuid:: Qi+6WaJ50BGQIADAT8LTzw==
showInAdvancedViewOnly: FALSE
systemFlags: 0



SAP UID

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
changetype: add
adminDisplayName: uid
attributeID:
1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.233.28688.28684.8.464850.1724825.154498.1299246.
15
attributeSyntax: 2.5.5.4
cn: uid
instanceType: 4
isSingleValued: TRUE
lDAPDisplayName: uid
distinguishedName:
CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
objectCategory:
CN=Attribute-Schema,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=
com
objectClass: attributeSchema
objectGUID:: f1Sz+++ZY0eIH7t1mStJIA==
oMSyntax: 20
name: uid
schemaIDGUID:: Qy93MDGWsEqRfKr837RfzA==
showInAdvancedViewOnly: TRUE



The main diffs being

O attributeSyntax/omsyntax - ci unicode string for MS, ci string for SAP
-
SAP shouldn't have an issue unless someone uses some multibytes in the
uid.

O schemaIDGuid - shouldn't be an issue unless there are property sets
involved for security

O attributeID - if SAP uses the ldapdisplayname in class definitions
instead of the attributeIDs they should be ok.

O MS is multi-valued, SAP is single valued - This could be painful if
using ADSI due to the difference in how it handles mv versus sv, but if
using LDAP this shouldn't be too bad, just would only use the first
value in the attribute.



Definitely there are points that could cause pain but wouldn't expect it
would be overly difficult for SAP to correct and use the MS definition
versus theirs. Unless they use UID as a unique identifier within the
database in which case the multi-value could cause some serious key
issues. 

   joe


 

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Thanks Joe, I saw that (rare for me lately).  Just curious if SAP and
Active Directory could play well together or not.  

 

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I would expect it would really dork it up pretty well... 

However there are two compensating things.

1. SAP shouldn't have done this. Ok so that isn't really a compensating
factor but they really shouldn't have!
2. He already said that they aren't using it so breaking SAP doesn't
matter.
Now for the part I don't know: how do I fix it? The SAP portal was
tested, but was back-burned indefinately, so I don't have to worry about
breaking it.




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Anyone have the impact that would have on SAP application by chance?

Just curious really.  Don't have SAP handy. 

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Great, you have to love that! ~Eric 

[ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Gasper, Rick
Title: Kerberos question







Quick question:

I have a remote system that needs to authenticate to our 2003 dcs, I have the choices of Kerberos and ldap. I would perfer to use Kerberos for security reasons, but I do not know if I need to do anything on the DC server in order to make this work.

Does anyone have place they could point me to? I have the Kerberos trouble shooting guide and am working through this.


Thanks


Rick Gasper

Manager, Network Services

King's College

133 N. River St

Wilkes-Barre PA 18711

PH: 570-208-5845

Fax: 570-208-6072

Cell: 570-760-0335

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RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Gasper, Rick
Title: Kerberos question








I think we have a miscom here: I have no
5.5 server-- I assume that you mean exchange 5.5 (we are all ex2k3).



More details:



I have an app that runs on a win2k3 that
uses either LDAP or Kerberos to authenticate its users against our 2003
active directory. The app server is part of our domain but the app that runs on
it is a third party app that says it can authenticate using Kerberos or LDAP.



My question is: Do I need to do anything
to our Domain controller to allow the app to talk to the domain controller?



Thanks,



Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
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From:
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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:53 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Before going any further, how about trying
to get the information from a 5.5 server locally using the admin utility?



The goal of looking there is to isolate
whether the problem is on the 5.5 side or if the problem is elsewhere; just
need to rule out there's a problem with the 5.5 admin :)



Al









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9:49 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

It is also windows 2003, but the software
is a web app (webct). I am confused as the whether the OS it doing the
authentication or the app is.









Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
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question





What OS is the remote system and how is it
connected?













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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:04 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Quick
question: 
I have a remote system that needs to authenticate to our 2003 dcs, I have the
choices of Kerberos and ldap. I would perfer to use Kerberos for security
reasons, but I do not know if I need to do anything on the DC server in order
to make this work.

Does
anyone have place they could point me to? I have the Kerberos trouble shooting
guide and am working through this. 

Thanks 

Rick Gasper 
Manager,
Network Services 
King's
College 
133
N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH:
570-208-5845 
Fax:
570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 








[ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 5.5 to 2003 upgrade/migration

2004-08-05 Thread Hunter, Laura E.
So I may be inheriting a new network that needs to do the 5.5 on NT4 to
2003 on 2003 shuffle.  Your basic Google search returns any number of
resources, obviously; but what does my favourite group of smart people
have to say?  Recommended Books/FAQs/Blogs/Sites that will make me not
want to kill myselfquite as much?

*
Laura E. Hunter
MCT, MCSE: Security, MVP - Windows Networking
Senior IT Specialist
University of Pennsylvania
 

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RE: [ActiveDir] krbtgt error when joining OS X client

2004-08-05 Thread kevingent



See if 
any of this helps as far as getting an AD computer account: 

3. Join 
the Machine to Active Directory

  
Open the finder and browse to /Applications/Utilities 
and open Directory Access. 
If 
the lock in the lower left corner is in the locked position, click on it and 
enter the appropriate credentials. 
Click 
Active Directory and click Configure you should then be able 
to enter your forest name in the Active Directory Forest box, enter 
your AD domain in the Active Directory Domain box, and finally the 
name of the computer account you want to use in the Computer ID box. 

Click 
the Hide Advanced Options box and unless you will absolutely need to 
authenticate users from multiple domains, then clear the checkbox. 

If 
the machine is a laptop, make sure to cache local accounts (You 
may also want to do this for desktop users who do not have network home 
directories.). You can also choose to allow AD groups 
administrative rights to the mac. By default this is set to Domain 
 Enterprise admins. 
When 
finished with all your options click the Bind button. 

You 
will be prompted for an account with permissions to add computers to the 
domain. When entering your account ID, do not prefix it with 
the netbios name of your domain, the sAMAccountName alone will bind. 
The default ldap computer account location is in the CN=Computers area 
off the root default domain NC. You can change this by adding a fully 
distinguished path to the Container or OU of your choice. 

The 
machine will go through 5 steps and hopefully bind successfully. 

Go back to the Directory Access application and click 
the Authentication tab at the top. Under search 
click Custom Path and click Add. A box will pop up and display 
the Active Directory connector you just added click Add, click 
Apply. 
If 
you have successfully bound and added the AD connector to your 
authentication path, then you can log off and attempt to login using the 
sAMAccountname of an Active Directory user. 
Troubleshooting AD 
AuthenticationIf you have any issues, enable remote login in the 
Sharing section of System Preferences and use another machine to 
SSH into the Mac. If you are using a windows box to SSH there is a free 
application called putty that you can use, just google for it. After 
ssh'ing into the box with an admin user account, enter the command: 
sudo killall -USR1 DirectoryService this command puts the 
lookupd daemon in debug logging mode, then type: tail -f 
/Library/Logs/DirectoryService/DirectoryService.debug.log | grep ADPlug 
this tells your shell to read the tail end of the log file and print 
any new entries to STDOUT. Now attempt to login to the machine, and your 
SSH machine will capture what is going on with the AD 
Plugin.

Kevin Gent
Pearson Digital 
Learning

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  EigerSent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:10 PMTo: Active 
  Directory ListSubject: [ActiveDir] krbtgt error when joining OS X 
  client
  
  Good morning (at least where I 
  am):
  
  I spent yesterday at a client 
  trying to get some Mac OS X 10.3.4 clients to play nice with the enterprise 
  AD. After trying many combinations of settings during the binding phase, we 
  gave up: the Mac could not bind to the DC. 
  
  The Macs system log showed this 
  for every attempt at binding:
  /System/Library/Frameworks/Kerberos.framework/Servers/CCacheServer.app/Contents/MacOS/CCacheServer: 
  Starting up.
  Aug 3 15:12:50 
  localhost DirectoryService[211]: Active Directory DS Plugin: Could not 
  determine site for closest DC!
  
  The DC showed this in the security 
  error log:
  "The description for Event 
  ID (675) in Source (Security) cannot be found. The local computer may not have 
  the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages 
  from a remote computer. The following information is part of the event: 
  username, username, krbtgt/AB.bigbiz.NET, 0x0, 0x19, 
  139.27.76.198."
  (names and addresses 
  changed)
  
  I can get more detailed about the 
  configuration we were attempting if you think that would help. I have limited 
  experience in an enterprise of this size (worldwide, with several hundred 
  sites). The forest/domain structure did not seem to use child domains. So, the 
  forest name was mo.largeco.net and the domain was 
  ab.bigbiz.net.
  
  Any thoughts definitely 
  appreciated.
  
  nme 
  


[ActiveDir] How do you determine if information about an object is replicted?

2004-08-05 Thread Steve
(Resend as I did not see this hit the list yesterday)

This is a learning question.  Nothing is broken but I would like to know
where some information is located.

How can I tell and where do I go to find out what information is
replicated in Active Directory at the DNS zone level itself.  For
example, if you create a new zone in AD, all the contents of the zone
are replicated, all the information under the Start of Authority Tab
is replicated, but the contents of the Zone Transfer tab are not.

I guess what I'm really asking for is where is the list of all the
objects that are replicated using AD located?  In searching MSDN, I
looked though the schema definitions but did not see a field
indicating if it was replicated or not.

I know that when a DNS zone is Active Directory Integrated, if you go
into ADUC (or other methods) under System\MicrosoftDNS you see the
replicated zone files and dnsnode information. But as far as I can
see, the actual properties of the zone are not shown, just the
contents.

Thanks!
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RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

2004-08-05 Thread Alicia Szerenyi
After i forced demotion of the DC changing the property from LanmanNT to ServerNT, i 
can't access AD (obviously)...but i have left a lot of files and stuff from the 
previous install of AD...how do i get rid of all that junk? can i just delete 
everything? i don't think i can...i have files in the folder c:\winnt\system32, and a 
lot of other places...

Thanks

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De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed


Install a UPS that will allow your machine to automatically shut down
gracefully in the event of a power failure...
You might also use an app like VMWare or Virtual PC to create a second DC
that you run for a few hours a week or something like that...

**
Charlie Kaiser
MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
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 Is there any way i can avoid a failure because of a power 
 loss? i read in the microsoft documentation that power 
 failure can cause that the database file can't be read, is 
 deleted or corrupted...
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 5.5 to 2003 upgrade/migration

2004-08-05 Thread Mulnick, Al
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/default.mspx is a
pretty good place to start.


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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 5.5 to 2003 upgrade/migration

So I may be inheriting a new network that needs to do the 5.5 on NT4 to
2003 on 2003 shuffle.  Your basic Google search returns any number of
resources, obviously; but what does my favourite group of smart people have
to say?  Recommended Books/FAQs/Blogs/Sites that will make me not want to
kill myselfquite as much?

*
Laura E. Hunter
MCT, MCSE: Security, MVP - Windows Networking Senior IT Specialist
University of Pennsylvania
 

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT? - showacls usage?

2004-08-05 Thread Michael B. Smith



I'm also pretty pleased with the new 
xcacls.vbs.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ad33a24-0616-473c-b103-c35bc2820bdaDisplayLang=en


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HaasSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:42 AMTo: 
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usage?

Try 
dumpacl/dumpsec, you will like it. And it's free..

Hth
Rene

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  usage?
  Hi,
   
  In trying to diagnose an issue that came up yesterday, I am trying to use the 
  showacls.exe from the 2003 server reskit. It seems that it will only 
  produce output for directories, not individual files. Has anyone else 
  experienced this behavior? (Any other recommended tools to capture the 
  ACE's?)TIA!
  
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[ActiveDir] Slightly OT Possible AD - Exchange issue

2004-08-05 Thread james . blair








All,



After migrating to Windows 2003 from NT4 we are now
migrating from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003 however we are having a couple of "strange"
issues which did not occur in the lab...After scavenging the web and
finding nothing will try here as it could be AD related. When I click on the Primary
Windows NT account\Select an existing account in Exchange 5.5 I get the
following error:



Either a required impersonation level was not
provided, or the provided impersonation level is invalid.



We have a fairly high security group policies in
place and to possibly subvert this issue I added Administrators and
Authenticated Users to the Computer
Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local
Policies\User Rights Assignment\Impersonate a Client After Authentication
attribute of the Default Domain Controllers Baseline security policy we have,
rebooted the server...still seem to have the issue however. Was wondering
if anyone has seen or heard of this issue as it is bugging the hell out of me...users
are able to access their e-mails.



Have seen in a post that
SERVICES should be added as well however when I do this I get an Event ID 1202
error and run the following syntax from the command prompt: FIND /I
Cannot find %SYSTEMROOT%\Security\Logs\winlogon.log

which returns SERVICES so I
remove it and the Event ID "goes away".



If anyone has any ideas I
would be greatful.







James
Blair














RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

2004-08-05 Thread Alicia Szerenyi
what happens if i reinstall AD over the previous files? will they be overwritten? or 
will that cause more errors?

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De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: jueves, 05 de agosto de 2004 11:59
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed


Personally, on this machine, after all this trouble, I'd back up the
critical data that I wanted to keep, verify that the backup of that data
could be restored to another location, wipe the machine and reinstall from
scratch.
Faster, easier, and more dependable than trying to clean up the wreckage...

**
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MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
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 From: Alicia Szerenyi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:48 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
 
 After i forced demotion of the DC changing the property from 
 LanmanNT to ServerNT, i can't access AD (obviously)...but i 
 have left a lot of files and stuff from the previous install 
 of AD...how do i get rid of all that junk? can i just delete 
 everything? i don't think i can...i have files in the folder 
 c:\winnt\system32, and a lot of other places...
 
 Thanks
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el: jueves, 05 de agosto de 2004 10:16
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
 
 
 Install a UPS that will allow your machine to automatically shut down
 gracefully in the event of a power failure...
 You might also use an app like VMWare or Virtual PC to create 
 a second DC
 that you run for a few hours a week or something like that...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 MCSE, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
 **
  
  Is there any way i can avoid a failure because of a power 
  loss? i read in the microsoft documentation that power 
  failure can cause that the database file can't be read, is 
  deleted or corrupted...
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RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread joe
Title: Kerberos question



I would contact the vendor. They should know. There should 
be nothing extra you have to do to support kerberos on your dc as the support is 
already there, that is the primary authentication mechanism 
now.

 joe


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:49 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question


It is also windows 
2003, but the software is a web app (webct). I am confused as the whether the OS 
it doing the authentication or the app is.




Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
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From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 9:08 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

What OS is the remote 
system and how is it connected?






From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 9:04 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

Quick 
question: I have a remote system that needs to authenticate to our 2003 dcs, 
I have the choices of Kerberos and ldap. I would perfer to use Kerberos for 
security reasons, but I do not know if I need to do anything on the DC server in 
order to make this work.
Does anyone 
have place they could point me to? I have the Kerberos trouble shooting guide 
and am working through this. 
Thanks 

Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network 
Services King's College 
133 N. River 
St Wilkes-Barre PA 
18711 PH: 
570-208-5845 Fax: 
570-208-6072 Cell: 
570-760-0335 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



[ActiveDir] OT? - showacls usage?

2004-08-05 Thread Thommes, Michael M.



Hi,
 
In trying to diagnose an issue that came up yesterday, I am trying to use the 
showacls.exe from the 2003 server reskit. It seems that it will only 
produce output for directories, not individual files. Has anyone else 
experienced this behavior? (Any other recommended tools to capture the 
ACE's?)TIA!

Mike 
Thommes


RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

2004-08-05 Thread Carr, Jonathan \(OFT\)
Another note is that a DC is only a DC it should not under any
circumstances have any DATA that is critical on it..   If you need to
recover the server you need to follow the kb at MS about recovery of a
failed DC. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alicia Szerenyi
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

what happens if i reinstall AD over the previous files? will they be
overwritten? or will that cause more errors?

-Mensaje original-
De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves,
05 de agosto de 2004 11:59
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed


Personally, on this machine, after all this trouble, I'd back up the
critical data that I wanted to keep, verify that the backup of that data
could be restored to another location, wipe the machine and reinstall
from scratch.
Faster, easier, and more dependable than trying to clean up the
wreckage...

**
Charlie Kaiser
MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Alicia Szerenyi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:48 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
 
 After i forced demotion of the DC changing the property from LanmanNT 
 to ServerNT, i can't access AD (obviously)...but i have left a lot of 
 files and stuff from the previous install of AD...how do i get rid of 
 all that junk? can i just delete everything? i don't think i can...i 
 have files in the folder c:\winnt\system32, and a lot of other 
 places...
 
 Thanks
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: 
 jueves, 05 de agosto de 2004 10:16
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
 
 
 Install a UPS that will allow your machine to automatically shut down 
 gracefully in the event of a power failure...
 You might also use an app like VMWare or Virtual PC to create a second

 DC that you run for a few hours a week or something like that...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 MCSE, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
 **
  
  Is there any way i can avoid a failure because of a power loss? i 
  read in the microsoft documentation that power failure can cause 
  that the database file can't be read, is deleted or corrupted...
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RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

2004-08-05 Thread joe
This is why I indicated you should promote it and demote it and then you are
back at square one and can start the promo back into a useable domain. There
are all sorts of things in the file system and registry handled when you do
a proper demotion.  

  jeo

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alicia Szerenyi
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

After i forced demotion of the DC changing the property from LanmanNT to
ServerNT, i can't access AD (obviously)...but i have left a lot of files and
stuff from the previous install of AD...how do i get rid of all that junk?
can i just delete everything? i don't think i can...i have files in the
folder c:\winnt\system32, and a lot of other places...

Thanks

-Mensaje original-
De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves, 05
de agosto de 2004 10:16
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed


Install a UPS that will allow your machine to automatically shut down
gracefully in the event of a power failure...
You might also use an app like VMWare or Virtual PC to create a second DC
that you run for a few hours a week or something like that...

**
Charlie Kaiser
MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**
 
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 in the microsoft documentation that power failure can cause that the 
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[ActiveDir] default containers

2004-08-05 Thread Creamer, Mark
Title: default containers






Is there a way to change the default location for a computer when it gets added to the domain to be a specific OU, rather than the Computers container? Or would this have to be done by scripting the add computer process?

Mark Creamer






RE: [ActiveDir] Exceeding the LDAP Look Through Limit

2004-08-05 Thread joe



Ah yeah, I "duh"ed there for a second. Of course ffl. 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric 
FleischmanSent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:55 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exceeding the 
LDAP Look Through Limit


Change domain 
functional mode to forest functional mode. This is a forest functional 
dependency. Gotta think of our GCs.

I just looked, and yes 
this error would throw an admin limit exceeded error, so it makes sense that 
this is the problem given problem description, although trace would confirm. My 
quick read of this section tells me that the server-returned frame should have a 
dsid in it that will let me be 100% sure.






From: 
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On Behalf Of joeSent: Monday, August 02, 2004 12:24 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exceeding the LDAP 
Look Through Limit

So irregardless of how 
you hit it if you hit~850 Non-LV values on an object you have hit the 
ceiling? ~1300 in 2K3 Domain Functional Mode... 




From: 
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On Behalf Of Eric 
FleischmanSent: Monday, August 
02, 2004 1:18 PMTo: joe; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exceeding the LDAP 
Look Through Limit
IIRC, the limits are 
one in the same really. Its a subtle point as to how we work under the hood 
that is exposing this.

~Eric






From: joe 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:12 
AMTo: Eric Fleischman; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exceeding the LDAP 
Look Through Limit

~Eric is there any 
public documentation on #1? Obviously max values on an attribute of an object is 
documented (I think it is anyway), but I don't recall seeing anything for max 
values on an object. 

 
joe




From: Eric 
Fleischman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:58 
AMTo: Eric Fleischman; joe; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exceeding the LDAP 
Look Through Limit
Oh, I didnt read below 
joes post. I should have.

So there are two 
possible things youre hitting here:
1) 
You are hitting the max 
# of values on the obj (as joe was eluding too)
2) 
You are exceeding an 
admin limit as a result of a write of a huge attribute (for example, max size of 
an ldap operation)

If you could, take a 
sniff of the network operation and share the trace with us so we can see the 
exact frames being submitted and the reply from the DSA. We would know for sure 
what limit youre hitting that way. joes guess is a good one (and probably 
right), but its not 100% clear to me thats what you are actually hitting. Its 
worth being sure before we conclude anything.

~Eric






From: 
Eric Fleischman Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:54 
AMTo: 'joe'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exceeding the LDAP 
Look Through Limit

Putting me on CC is the way to get 
me to notice it faster. It hits a search folder that I watch that 
way.

In w2k we had a non-linked value 
limit of ~850 values. In 2k03 that moved to ~1300. Since we can have interop, we 
need to make sure we dont break 2k when you introduce 2k03 so you dont get the 
new ~1300 limit until you increase forest functional level to at least 
1.

Error you get on 2k when you exceed 
~850 is JET_errRecordTooBig (-1026 if I remember correctly).On 2k03 if you 
exceed ~850 pre-forest functional level increase you get 
JET_errRecordTooBigForBackwardCompatibility, then if you increase forest 
functional level and try to exceed ~1300 I believe you get JET_errRecordTooBig 
again.
~Eric






From: joe 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 5:43 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Eric FleischmanSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exceeding the LDAP 
Look Through Limit

Ah, I was chatting with 
~Eric on this exact issue previously about adding too many attributes to a 
single multivalued attribute. Once I hit the limit (around 850 or so attributes 
on 2K) I couldn't add any new attributes to anything, only modify existing 
We never went anywhere on that discussion and I am curious why this happens. 


Since ~Eric hasn't 
responded to this I am guessing he lost the thread so I am going to do the 
Bat~Eric Call... 


CARTE 
BLANCHE!

 joe 
:o)




From: 
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On Behalf Of Steve 
BrashearSent: Friday, July 23, 
2004 9:13 AMTo: 
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Look Through Limit
Ok, he 
created one 
user-defined ou , and added an object in that container.Next, he opened ADSI 
edit , and added attributes for that object. For example he has 3 
attributes, and added 300 values for each 
attributes.

If he adds more than 
this values, the limit exceeded message appears: 

I received 
following error message - "The Administrative limit for this request was 
exceeded" -OS is win2k server sp4

Thanks for your 
help!

Steve






From: 
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On Behalf Of Eric FleischmanSent: Thursday, July 22, 

RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Gasper, Rick
Title: Kerberos question








The application is called WebCT. www.webct.com. It is a distance learning app
that runs off a web server. Their documentation is some what lacking, and their
support is not really that good.



I do have everything set up as they
request, so I was thinking that my problem is on my end.



I do have a support call scheduled with
them later today. I wanted to try to rule out a AD problem.



Thanks







Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Sorry Rick. Thread overlap. :)



Whether or not you need to make a change
depends on the application. For example, if they use the operating system
to handle the authentication calls, then it should work fine, right? If they do
something else, they should have documented it and should tell you what is
needed. What is the application saying they need to do?Which
application is it out of curiosity?



Al









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

I think we have a miscom here: I have no
5.5 server-- I assume that you mean exchange 5.5 (we are all ex2k3).



More details:



I have an app that runs on a win2k3 that
uses either LDAP or Kerberos to authenticate its users against our 2003
active directory. The app server is part of our domain but the app that runs on
it is a third party app that says it can authenticate using Kerberos or LDAP.



My question is: Do I need to do anything
to our Domain controller to allow the app to talk to the domain controller?



Thanks,



Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre PA
18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Before going any further, how about trying
to get the information from a 5.5 server locally using the admin utility?



The goal of looking there is to isolate
whether the problem is on the 5.5 side or if the problem is elsewhere; just
need to rule out there's a problem with the 5.5 admin :)



Al









From:
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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

It is also windows 2003, but the software
is a web app (webct). I am confused as the whether the OS it doing the
authentication or the app is.









Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





What OS is the remote system and how is it
connected?













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Quick
question: 
I have a remote system that needs to authenticate to our 2003 dcs, I have the
choices of Kerberos and ldap. I would perfer to use Kerberos for security
reasons, but I do not know if I need to do anything on the DC server in order
to make this work.

Does
anyone have place they could point me to? I have the Kerberos trouble shooting
guide and am working through this. 

Thanks 

Rick Gasper 
Manager,
Network Services 
King's
College 
133
N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH:
570-208-5845 
Fax:
570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 








RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Gasper, Rick
Title: Kerberos question








Joe,

I was pretty sure that was the case, but I
wanted to make sure.



Thanks,



Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
11:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





I would contact the vendor. They should
know. There should be nothing extra you have to do to support kerberos on your
dc as the support is already there, that is the primary authentication
mechanism now.



 joe









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

It is also windows 2003, but the software
is a web app (webct). I am confused as the whether the OS it doing the
authentication or the app is.









Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





What OS is the remote system and how is it
connected?













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Quick
question: 
I have a remote system that needs to authenticate to our 2003 dcs, I have the
choices of Kerberos and ldap. I would perfer to use Kerberos for security
reasons, but I do not know if I need to do anything on the DC server in order
to make this work.

Does
anyone have place they could point me to? I have the Kerberos trouble shooting
guide and am working through this. 

Thanks 

Rick Gasper 
Manager,
Network Services 
King's
College 
133
N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH:
570-208-5845 
Fax:
570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 








RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

2004-08-05 Thread Alicia Szerenyi
i already recovered the DC, but since i demoted it by changing the registry property, 
i can't access AD...i want to eliminate any trash that might be left...or reinstall AD 
over it to start again from the begining...and then maybe uninstall properly...

-Mensaje original-
De: Carr, Jonathan (OFT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: jueves, 05 de agosto de 2004 12:21
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed


Another note is that a DC is only a DC it should not under any
circumstances have any DATA that is critical on it..   If you need to
recover the server you need to follow the kb at MS about recovery of a
failed DC. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alicia Szerenyi
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

what happens if i reinstall AD over the previous files? will they be
overwritten? or will that cause more errors?

-Mensaje original-
De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves,
05 de agosto de 2004 11:59
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed


Personally, on this machine, after all this trouble, I'd back up the
critical data that I wanted to keep, verify that the backup of that data
could be restored to another location, wipe the machine and reinstall
from scratch.
Faster, easier, and more dependable than trying to clean up the
wreckage...

**
Charlie Kaiser
MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Alicia Szerenyi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:48 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
 
 After i forced demotion of the DC changing the property from LanmanNT 
 to ServerNT, i can't access AD (obviously)...but i have left a lot of 
 files and stuff from the previous install of AD...how do i get rid of 
 all that junk? can i just delete everything? i don't think i can...i 
 have files in the folder c:\winnt\system32, and a lot of other 
 places...
 
 Thanks
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: 
 jueves, 05 de agosto de 2004 10:16
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
 
 
 Install a UPS that will allow your machine to automatically shut down 
 gracefully in the event of a power failure...
 You might also use an app like VMWare or Virtual PC to create a second

 DC that you run for a few hours a week or something like that...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 MCSE, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
 **
  
  Is there any way i can avoid a failure because of a power loss? i 
  read in the microsoft documentation that power failure can cause 
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Re: [ActiveDir] Slightly OT Possible AD - Exchange issue

2004-08-05 Thread Tony Murray
No real clue, but perhaps some tips for further investigation:

Does the problem occur with all versions of the 5.5 Admin program?   Use SP4 version 
if in doubt.

Is there any difference if you run the 5.5. Admin program on NT platform compared to 
W2K?

If the accounts are already in AD, how many do you have (just wondering if the 5.5 
Admin program maybe has problems coping with high volumes)?

Tony
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Date:  Thu, 5 Aug 2004 22:30:19 +1000 

All,

 

After migrating to Windows 2003 from NT4 we are now migrating from Exchange
5.5 to Exchange 2003 however we are having a couple of  strange issues
which did not occur in the lab...After scavenging the web and finding
nothing will try here as it could be AD related. When I click on the Primary
Windows NT account\Select an existing account in Exchange 5.5 I get the
following error:

 

Either a required impersonation level was not provided, or the provided
impersonation level is invalid.

 

We have a fairly high security group policies in place and to possibly
subvert this issue I added Administrators and Authenticated Users to the
Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local
Policies\User Rights Assignment\Impersonate a Client After Authentication
attribute of the Default Domain Controllers Baseline security policy we
have, rebooted the server...still seem to have the issue however. Was
wondering if anyone has seen or heard of this issue as it is bugging the
hell out of me...users are able to access their e-mails.

 

Have seen in a post that SERVICES should be added as well however when I do
this I get an Event ID 1202 error and run the following syntax from the
command prompt: FIND /I Cannot find
%SYSTEMROOT%\Security\Logs\winlogon.log

which returns SERVICES so I remove it and the Event ID goes away.

 

If anyone has any ideas I would be greatful.

 

James Blair

 



 





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RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

2004-08-05 Thread Charlie Kaiser
Yep. Problem is, especially in small environments, there are times when a DC
is also the file server or it runs other services. Getting a small business
to pay for an additional server is sometimes problematic. The high
eggs-to-basket ratio is often accepted in relation to the costs.
Thus the need for good backups with tested restores and a decent UPS...

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 -Original Message-
 From: Carr, Jonathan (OFT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
 
 Another note is that a DC is only a DC it should not under any
 circumstances have any DATA that is critical on it..   If you need to
 recover the server you need to follow the kb at MS about recovery of a
 failed DC. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Alicia Szerenyi
 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
 
 what happens if i reinstall AD over the previous files? will they be
 overwritten? or will that cause more errors?
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado 
 el: jueves,
 05 de agosto de 2004 11:59
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
 
 
 Personally, on this machine, after all this trouble, I'd back up the
 critical data that I wanted to keep, verify that the backup 
 of that data
 could be restored to another location, wipe the machine and reinstall
 from scratch.
 Faster, easier, and more dependable than trying to clean up the
 wreckage...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 MCSE, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
 **
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Alicia Szerenyi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:48 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
  
  After i forced demotion of the DC changing the property 
 from LanmanNT 
  to ServerNT, i can't access AD (obviously)...but i have 
 left a lot of 
  files and stuff from the previous install of AD...how do i 
 get rid of 
  all that junk? can i just delete everything? i don't think 
 i can...i 
  have files in the folder c:\winnt\system32, and a lot of other 
  places...
  
  Thanks
  
  -Mensaje original-
  De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: 
  jueves, 05 de agosto de 2004 10:16
  Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed
  
  
  Install a UPS that will allow your machine to automatically 
 shut down 
  gracefully in the event of a power failure...
  You might also use an app like VMWare or Virtual PC to 
 create a second
 
  DC that you run for a few hours a week or something like that...
  
  **
  Charlie Kaiser
  MCSE, CCNA
  Systems Engineer
  Essex Credit / Brickwalk
  510 595 5083
  **
   
   Is there any way i can avoid a failure because of a power loss? i 
   read in the microsoft documentation that power failure can cause 
   that the database file can't be read, is deleted or corrupted...
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RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

2004-08-05 Thread Alicia Szerenyi
ok, great...
thanks 

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De: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed


This is why I indicated you should promote it and demote it and then you are
back at square one and can start the promo back into a useable domain. There
are all sorts of things in the file system and registry handled when you do
a proper demotion.  

  jeo

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed

After i forced demotion of the DC changing the property from LanmanNT to
ServerNT, i can't access AD (obviously)...but i have left a lot of files and
stuff from the previous install of AD...how do i get rid of all that junk?
can i just delete everything? i don't think i can...i have files in the
folder c:\winnt\system32, and a lot of other places...

Thanks

-Mensaje original-
De: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves, 05
de agosto de 2004 10:16
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] urgent help needed


Install a UPS that will allow your machine to automatically shut down
gracefully in the event of a power failure...
You might also use an app like VMWare or Virtual PC to create a second DC
that you run for a few hours a week or something like that...

**
Charlie Kaiser
MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] default containers

2004-08-05 Thread Bernard, Aric
Title: default containers








I dont think there is anyway to
change the default location when adding a computer through the joining
computers GUI. If you are using a tool, most of them offer the ability to
specify an alternate location. You could of course pre-create machine accounts
in the OU you want them to be placed in. Alternately, you could write a script
that utilizes WMI, for example, that monitors the computers container and moves
objects after they are created to your selected destination.



-Aric











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Creamer, Mark
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
8:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] default
containers





Is there a way to change the
default location for a computer when it gets added to the domain to be a
specific OU, rather than the Computers container? Or would this have to be done
by scripting the add computer process?

Mark
Creamer








RE: [ActiveDir] default containers

2004-08-05 Thread Mulnick, Al
Title: default containers



In a FFL 2003 Active Directory you can modify the default 
path. RedirCMP is the CMD (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324949). 
Otherwise, you'd want a process or a script to do it for you. Netdom is 
one such tool that can put it in particular OU's with relatively little 
trouble. Haven't seen it work on older than W2K workstations though (2.0 
and lateris the OU aware version; Only 1.8 and lower work on NT 4 
supposedly; got weary looking)

Al


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Creamer, 
MarkSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:21 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] default 
containers

Is there a way to change the default location for a computer when it gets 
added to the domain to be a specific OU, rather than the Computers container? Or 
would this have to be done by scripting the add computer 
process?
Mark 
Creamer



Re: [ActiveDir] default containers

2004-08-05 Thread John Singler
with w2k3 Domain:
Redirecting the users and computers containers in Windows Server 2003 
domains

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324949
Creamer, Mark wrote:
Is there a way to change the default location for a computer when it 
gets added to the domain to be a specific OU, rather than the Computers 
container? Or would this have to be done by scripting the add computer 
process?

***Mark Creamer*
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RE: [ActiveDir] default containers

2004-08-05 Thread James Borris
Title: default containers








Create the machine accounts in the
destination container(s) prior to joining the domain. There is
another method with scripted unattended installs that would allow you to
specify the container.



James Borris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Creamer, Mark
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] default
containers





Is there a way to change the
default location for a computer when it gets added to the domain to be a
specific OU, rather than the Computers container? Or would this have to be done
by scripting the add computer process?

Mark
Creamer








RE: [ActiveDir] default containers

2004-08-05 Thread joe
Title: default containers



Yep, this can fairly easily be configured to be handled 
with say a web page so you can proxy the process so people don't have to have 
rights to create machine accounts or do any join they want to. This also allows 
you to have business logic rules behind it so you can determine the names that 
are used and you have simple logging as to who did it and when. 


 joe


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James 
BorrisSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:49 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] default 
containers


Create the machine 
accounts in the destination container(s) prior to joining the 
domain. There is another method with scripted unattended installs 
that would allow you to specify the container.

James 
Borris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Creamer, 
MarkSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 10:21 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] default 
containers

Is there 
a way to change the default location for a computer when it gets added to the 
domain to be a specific OU, rather than the Computers container? Or would this 
have to be done by scripting the add computer process?
Mark 
Creamer


RE: [ActiveDir] default containers

2004-08-05 Thread Bernard, Aric
Title: default containers








Of course if you have a Windows 2003
Domain Mode domain you could use the redircmp
hack. Note that Exchange 2000 domainprep (and who knows what else) expect some
objects to be created in the native default locations (I think
groups in the case of E2K). Most of the time you can work around any problems
the redircmp or redirusr hacks may cause.



-Aric











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard,
 Aric
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
8:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] default
containers





I dont think there is anyway to
change the default location when adding a computer through the joining
computers GUI. If you are using a tool, most of them offer the ability to
specify an alternate location. You could of course pre-create machine
accounts in the OU you want them to be placed in. Alternately, you could
write a script that utilizes WMI, for example, that monitors the computers
container and moves objects after they are created to your selected
destination.



-Aric











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Creamer, Mark
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
8:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] default
containers





Is there a way to change the
default location for a computer when it gets added to the domain to be a
specific OU, rather than the Computers container? Or would this have to be done
by scripting the add computer process?

Mark
Creamer








RE: [ActiveDir] default containers

2004-08-05 Thread Creamer, Mark
Title: default containers








Thanks all
for the responses  Were 2000 presently, so Ill look at the
scripted or pre-create options. Thanks again





mc











From: joe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
11:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] default
containers





If you are using Windows 2003 AD you can
use redircmp to change the default computers container targeted by the legacy
join calls.



The more robust method though, is to
script the join. 



 joe









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Creamer, Mark
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
11:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] default
containers

Is
there a way to change the default location for a computer when it gets added to
the domain to be a specific OU, rather than the Computers container? Or would
this have to be done by scripting the add computer process?

Mark
Creamer








RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003 up grade attempt

2004-08-05 Thread Ken Cornetet
Unfortunately, I don't know, and the SAP guy who installed it doesn't
remember either.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:20 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt


Ken:

Do you recall which version of the SAP portal it was that made the
schema changes?  I'm asking since we are testing the SAP portal against
AD in our lab with our SAP folks.  I know that the initial version that
they came to us with required a schema change (version 5?) and before we
got it set up they came back with the newer version that supposedly did
not require a change.  IIRC that was version 6.  

Diane 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

Well side by side we see:

MS UID

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=X
changetype: ntdsSchemaAdd
objectClass: attributeSchema
ldapDisplayName: uid
adminDisplayName: uid
adminDescription: A user ID.
attributeId: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.1
attributeSyntax: 2.5.5.12
omSyntax: 64
isSingleValued: FALSE
systemOnly: FALSE
searchFlags: 8
schemaIdGuid:: oPywC4ken0KQGhQTiU2fWQ==
attributeSecurityGuid:: Qi+6WaJ50BGQIADAT8LTzw==
showInAdvancedViewOnly: FALSE
systemFlags: 0



SAP UID

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
changetype: add
adminDisplayName: uid
attributeID:
1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.233.28688.28684.8.464850.1724825.154498.1299246.
15
attributeSyntax: 2.5.5.4
cn: uid
instanceType: 4
isSingleValued: TRUE
lDAPDisplayName: uid
distinguishedName:
CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
objectCategory:
CN=Attribute-Schema,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=
com
objectClass: attributeSchema
objectGUID:: f1Sz+++ZY0eIH7t1mStJIA==
oMSyntax: 20
name: uid
schemaIDGUID:: Qy93MDGWsEqRfKr837RfzA==
showInAdvancedViewOnly: TRUE



The main diffs being

O attributeSyntax/omsyntax - ci unicode string for MS, ci string for SAP
-
SAP shouldn't have an issue unless someone uses some multibytes in the
uid.

O schemaIDGuid - shouldn't be an issue unless there are property sets
involved for security

O attributeID - if SAP uses the ldapdisplayname in class definitions
instead of the attributeIDs they should be ok.

O MS is multi-valued, SAP is single valued - This could be painful if
using ADSI due to the difference in how it handles mv versus sv, but if
using LDAP this shouldn't be too bad, just would only use the first
value in the attribute.



Definitely there are points that could cause pain but wouldn't expect it
would be overly difficult for SAP to correct and use the MS definition
versus theirs. Unless they use UID as a unique identifier within the
database in which case the multi-value could cause some serious key
issues. 

   joe


 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:16 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

Thanks Joe, I saw that (rare for me lately).  Just curious if SAP and
Active Directory could play well together or not.  

 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:03 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

I would expect it would really dork it up pretty well... 

However there are two compensating things.

1. SAP shouldn't have done this. Ok so that isn't really a compensating
factor but they really shouldn't have! 2. He already said that they
aren't using it so breaking SAP doesn't matter. Now for the part I
don't know: how do I fix it? The SAP portal was tested, but was
back-burned indefinately, so I don't have to worry about breaking it.




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:46 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

Anyone have the impact that would have on SAP application by chance?

Just curious really.  Don't have SAP handy. 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Eric Fleischman'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
upgrade attempt

Great, you have to love that! ~Eric have them fix their sheet!

Here is a little article about defuncting attribs/classes so you can
learn about it

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ad/ad/d
isab

RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Ken Cornetet
Title: Message



Your 
local liquor store is a good place to start, followed by the drug store for a 
few gallons of Maalox.

Kerberos interoperability is a pain. It is possible, but you will have to 
do LOTS of research.

  
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  On Behalf Of Gasper, RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 
  8:04 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [ActiveDir] Kerberos question
  Quick question: I have a remote system that needs to authenticate to 
  our 2003 dcs, I have the choices of Kerberos and ldap. I would perfer to use 
  Kerberos for security reasons, but I do not know if I need to do anything on 
  the DC server in order to make this work.
  Does anyone have place they could point me to? 
  I have the Kerberos trouble shooting guide and am working through this. 
  
  Thanks 
  Rick Gasper Manager, Network Services King's College 133 N. River St Wilkes-Barre 
  PA 18711 PH: 
  570-208-5845 Fax: 
  570-208-6072 Cell: 
  570-760-0335 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Mulnick, Al
Title: Kerberos question



So that leads to the next question then: do you have a 
problem going on? If so, can you give some details?

Al


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:26 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question


The application is 
called WebCT. www.webct.com. It is a 
distance learning app that runs off a web server. Their documentation is some 
what lacking, and their support is not really that good.

I do have everything 
set up as they request, so I was thinking that my problem is on my 
end.

I do have a support 
call scheduled with them later today. I wanted to try to rule out a AD 
problem.

Thanks



Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
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From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 10:44 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

Sorry Rick. 
Thread overlap. :)

Whether or not you need 
to make a change depends on the application. For example, if they use the 
operating system to handle the authentication calls, then it should work fine, 
right? If they do something else, they should have documented it and should tell 
you what is needed. What is the application saying they need to 
do?Which application is it out of curiosity?

Al




From: 
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On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 10:29 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
I think we have a 
miscom here: I have no 5.5 server-- I assume that you mean exchange 5.5 (we are 
all ex2k3).

More 
details:

I have an app that runs 
on a win2k3 that uses either LDAP or Kerberos to authenticate its users against 
our 2003 active directory. The app server is part of our domain but the app that 
runs on it is a third party app that says it can authenticate using Kerberos or 
LDAP.

My question is: Do I 
need to do anything to our Domain controller to allow the app to talk to the 
domain controller?

Thanks,

Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
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From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 9:53 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

Before going any 
further, how about trying to get the information from a 5.5 server locally using 
the admin utility?

The goal of looking 
there is to isolate whether the problem is on the 5.5 side or if the problem is 
elsewhere; just need to rule out there's a problem with the 5.5 admin 
:)

Al




From: 
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On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 9:49 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
It is also windows 
2003, but the software is a web app (webct). I am confused as the whether the OS 
it doing the authentication or the app is.




Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 9:08 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

What OS is the remote 
system and how is it connected?






From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 9:04 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

Quick 
question: I have a remote system that needs to authenticate to our 2003 dcs, 
I have the choices of Kerberos and ldap. I would perfer to use Kerberos for 
security reasons, but I do not know if I need to do anything on the DC server in 
order to make this work.
Does anyone 
have place they could point me to? I have the Kerberos trouble shooting guide 
and am working through this. 
Thanks 

Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network 
Services King's College 
133 N. River 
St Wilkes-Barre PA 
18711 PH: 
570-208-5845 Fax: 
570-208-6072 Cell: 
570-760-0335 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Mulnick, Al
Title: Kerberos question



There are tools to monitor kerberos conversations 
(capture), but I think you're likely better off using success/failure audit 
logging to see what's going on, what's being attempted and 
whereauthentication isfailing.

I think the following is most likely to be helpful http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326985


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:41 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question


Question,: is there a 
utility that would use Kerberos to login (Kind of like a test login 
utility)?

We are not experiencing 
any problem with logins anywhere (except as mentioned).. This is the first 
non windows application we are deploying that uses Kerberos (outside of 
windows). IT does recognize a bad password as a bad password, but throws an 
error with the correct password is given:

ERROR(1006)An error occurred in WebCT 
authorization.



Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 2:00 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

So that leads to the 
next question then: do you have a problem going on? If so, can you give 
some details?

Al




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 11:26 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
The application is 
called WebCT. www.webct.com. It is a 
distance learning app that runs off a web server. Their documentation is some 
what lacking, and their support is not really that good.

I do have everything 
set up as they request, so I was thinking that my problem is on my 
end.

I do have a support 
call scheduled with them later today. I wanted to try to rule out a AD 
problem.

Thanks



Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 10:44 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

Sorry Rick. 
Thread overlap. :)

Whether or not you need 
to make a change depends on the application. For example, if they use the 
operating system to handle the authentication calls, then it should work fine, 
right? If they do something else, they should have documented it and should tell 
you what is needed. What is the application saying they need to 
do?Which application is it out of curiosity?

Al




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 10:29 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
I think we have a 
miscom here: I have no 5.5 server-- I assume that you mean exchange 5.5 (we are 
all ex2k3).

More 
details:

I have an app that runs 
on a win2k3 that uses either LDAP or Kerberos to authenticate its users against 
our 2003 active directory. The app server is part of our domain but the app that 
runs on it is a third party app that says it can authenticate using Kerberos or 
LDAP.

My question is: Do I 
need to do anything to our Domain controller to allow the app to talk to the 
domain controller?

Thanks,

Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 9:53 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

Before going any 
further, how about trying to get the information from a 5.5 server locally using 
the admin utility?

The goal of looking 
there is to isolate whether the problem is on the 5.5 side or if the problem is 
elsewhere; just need to rule out there's a problem with the 5.5 admin 
:)

Al




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 9:49 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
It is also windows 
2003, but the software is a web app (webct). I am confused as the whether the OS 
it doing the authentication or the app is.




Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 9:08 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

What OS is the remote 
system and how is it connected?




RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Gasper, Rick
Title: Kerberos question








The program uses apache, I am still
working with the vendor on this.

This is the error from the DC:



Event Type: Failure Audit

Event Source: Security

Event Category: Account Logon 

Event ID: 675

Date: 8/5/2004

Time: 3:15:59 PM

User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM

Computer: KINGS-DC01

Description:

Pre-authentication failed:

 User Name: ricktest

 User ID: KINGS\ricktest

 Service Name: krbtgt/KINGS.EDU

 Pre-Authentication Type: 0x0

 Failure Code: 0x19

 Client Address: 10.1.18.48





For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.





Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





There are tools to monitor kerberos
conversations (capture), but I think you're likely better off using
success/failure audit logging to see what's going on, what's being attempted
and whereauthentication isfailing.



I think the following is most likely to be
 helpful http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326985









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

Question,: is there a utility that would
use Kerberos to login (Kind of like a test login utility)?



We are not experiencing any problem with
logins anywhere (except as mentioned).. This is the first non windows
application we are deploying that uses Kerberos (outside of windows). IT does
recognize a bad password as a bad password, but throws an error with the
correct password is given:



ERROR(1006)
An error occurred in WebCT authorization.







Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





So that leads to the next question then:
do you have a problem going on? If so, can you give some details?



Al









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
11:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

The application is called WebCT. www.webct.com. It is a distance learning app
that runs off a web server. Their documentation is some what lacking, and their
support is not really that good.



I do have everything set up as they
request, so I was thinking that my problem is on my end.



I do have a support call scheduled with
them later today. I wanted to try to rule out a AD problem.



Thanks







Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Sorry Rick. Thread overlap. :)



Whether or not you need to make a change
depends on the application. For example, if they use the operating system
to handle the authentication calls, then it should work fine, right? If they do
something else, they should have documented it and should tell you what is
needed. What is the application saying they need to do?Which
application is it out of curiosity?



Al









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

I think we have a miscom here: I have no
5.5 server-- I assume that you mean exchange 5.5 (we are all ex2k3).



More details:



I have an app that runs on a win2k3 that
uses either LDAP or Kerberos to authenticate its users against our 2003
active directory. The app server is part of our domain but the app that runs on
it is a third party app that says it can authenticate using Kerberos or LDAP.



My question is: Do I need to do anything
to our Domain controller to allow the app to talk to the domain controller?



Thanks,



Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Before going any further, how about trying
to get the information from a 5.5 

RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003 up grade attempt

2004-08-05 Thread Ayers, Diane
Thanks for checking.

Diane 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

Unfortunately, I don't know, and the SAP guy who installed it doesn't
remember either.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayers, Diane
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt


Ken:

Do you recall which version of the SAP portal it was that made the
schema changes?  I'm asking since we are testing the SAP portal against
AD in our lab with our SAP folks.  I know that the initial version that
they came to us with required a schema change (version 5?) and before we
got it set up they came back with the newer version that supposedly did
not require a change.  IIRC that was version 6.  

Diane 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

Well side by side we see:

MS UID

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=X
changetype: ntdsSchemaAdd
objectClass: attributeSchema
ldapDisplayName: uid
adminDisplayName: uid
adminDescription: A user ID.
attributeId: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.1
attributeSyntax: 2.5.5.12
omSyntax: 64
isSingleValued: FALSE
systemOnly: FALSE
searchFlags: 8
schemaIdGuid:: oPywC4ken0KQGhQTiU2fWQ==
attributeSecurityGuid:: Qi+6WaJ50BGQIADAT8LTzw==
showInAdvancedViewOnly: FALSE
systemFlags: 0



SAP UID

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
changetype: add
adminDisplayName: uid
attributeID:
1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.233.28688.28684.8.464850.1724825.154498.1299246.
15
attributeSyntax: 2.5.5.4
cn: uid
instanceType: 4
isSingleValued: TRUE
lDAPDisplayName: uid
distinguishedName:
CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
objectCategory:
CN=Attribute-Schema,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=
com
objectClass: attributeSchema
objectGUID:: f1Sz+++ZY0eIH7t1mStJIA==
oMSyntax: 20
name: uid
schemaIDGUID:: Qy93MDGWsEqRfKr837RfzA==
showInAdvancedViewOnly: TRUE



The main diffs being

O attributeSyntax/omsyntax - ci unicode string for MS, ci string for SAP
-
SAP shouldn't have an issue unless someone uses some multibytes in the
uid.

O schemaIDGuid - shouldn't be an issue unless there are property sets
involved for security

O attributeID - if SAP uses the ldapdisplayname in class definitions
instead of the attributeIDs they should be ok.

O MS is multi-valued, SAP is single valued - This could be painful if
using ADSI due to the difference in how it handles mv versus sv, but if
using LDAP this shouldn't be too bad, just would only use the first
value in the attribute.



Definitely there are points that could cause pain but wouldn't expect it
would be overly difficult for SAP to correct and use the MS definition
versus theirs. Unless they use UID as a unique identifier within the
database in which case the multi-value could cause some serious key
issues. 

   joe


 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

Thanks Joe, I saw that (rare for me lately).  Just curious if SAP and
Active Directory could play well together or not.  

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

I would expect it would really dork it up pretty well... 

However there are two compensating things.

1. SAP shouldn't have done this. Ok so that isn't really a compensating
factor but they really shouldn't have! 2. He already said that they
aren't using it so breaking SAP doesn't matter. Now for the part I
don't know: how do I fix it? The SAP portal was tested, but was
back-burned indefinately, so I don't have to worry about breaking it.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003
up grade attempt

Anyone have the impact that would have on SAP application by chance?

Just curious really.  Don't have SAP handy. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Eric Fleischman'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus 

RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Mulnick, Al
Title: Kerberos question



This stands out

Pre-authentication 
failed:


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:24 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question


The program uses 
apache, I am still working with the vendor on this.
This is the error from 
the DC:

Event 
Type: Failure Audit
Event 
Source: Security
Event 
Category: 
Account Logon 
Event 
ID: 675
Date: 
8/5/2004
Time: 
3:15:59 PM
User: 
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: 
KINGS-DC01
Description:
Pre-authentication 
failed:
 
User Name: ricktest
 
User 
ID: 
KINGS\ricktest
 
Service Name: krbtgt/KINGS.EDU
 
Pre-Authentication 
Type: 
0x0
 
Failure Code: 0x19
 
Client Address: 10.1.18.48


For more information, 
see Help and Support Center at 
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 2:54 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

There are tools to 
monitor kerberos conversations (capture), but I think you're likely better off 
using success/failure audit logging to see what's going on, what's being 
attempted and whereauthentication isfailing.

I think the following 
is most likely to be helpful http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326985




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 2:41 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
Question,: is there a 
utility that would use Kerberos to login (Kind of like a test login 
utility)?

We are not experiencing 
any problem with logins anywhere (except as mentioned).. This is the first 
non windows application we are deploying that uses Kerberos (outside of 
windows). IT does recognize a bad password as a bad password, but throws an 
error with the correct password is given:

ERROR(1006)An error occurred in WebCT 
authorization.



Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 2:00 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

So that leads to the 
next question then: do you have a problem going on? If so, can you give 
some details?

Al




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 11:26 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
The application is 
called WebCT. www.webct.com. It is a 
distance learning app that runs off a web server. Their documentation is some 
what lacking, and their support is not really that good.

I do have everything 
set up as they request, so I was thinking that my problem is on my 
end.

I do have a support 
call scheduled with them later today. I wanted to try to rule out a AD 
problem.

Thanks



Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 10:44 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

Sorry Rick. 
Thread overlap. :)

Whether or not you need 
to make a change depends on the application. For example, if they use the 
operating system to handle the authentication calls, then it should work fine, 
right? If they do something else, they should have documented it and should tell 
you what is needed. What is the application saying they need to 
do?Which application is it out of curiosity?

Al




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 10:29 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
I think we have a 
miscom here: I have no 5.5 server-- I assume that you mean exchange 5.5 (we are 
all ex2k3).

More 
details:

I have an app that runs 
on a win2k3 that uses either LDAP or Kerberos to authenticate its users against 
our 2003 active directory. The app server is part of our domain but the app that 
runs on it is a third party app that says it can authenticate using Kerberos or 
LDAP.

My question is: Do I 
need to do anything to our Domain controller to allow the app to talk to the 
domain controller?

Thanks,

Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Gasper, Rick
Title: Kerberos question








I am looking that up now









Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





This stands out

Pre-authentication failed:









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

The program uses apache, I am still
working with the vendor on this.

This is the error from the DC:



Event Type:
Failure Audit

Event Source: Security

Event
Category:
Account Logon 

Event
ID: 675

Date:
8/5/2004

Time:
3:15:59 PM

User:
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM

Computer:
KINGS-DC01

Description:

Pre-authentication failed:


User Name: ricktest


User
ID:
KINGS\ricktest


Service Name: krbtgt/KINGS.EDU


Pre-Authentication
Type: 0x0


Failure Code: 0x19


Client Address: 10.1.18.48





For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.





Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





There are tools to monitor kerberos
conversations (capture), but I think you're likely better off using
success/failure audit logging to see what's going on, what's being attempted
and whereauthentication isfailing.



I think the following is most likely to be
 helpful http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326985









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

Question,: is there a utility that would
use Kerberos to login (Kind of like a test login utility)?



We are not experiencing any problem with
logins anywhere (except as mentioned).. This is the first non windows
application we are deploying that uses Kerberos (outside of windows). IT does
recognize a bad password as a bad password, but throws an error with the
correct password is given:



ERROR(1006)
An error occurred in WebCT authorization.







Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





So that leads to the next question then:
do you have a problem going on? If so, can you give some details?



Al









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
11:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

The application is called WebCT. www.webct.com. It is a distance learning app
that runs off a web server. Their documentation is some what lacking, and their
support is not really that good.



I do have everything set up as they
request, so I was thinking that my problem is on my end.



I do have a support call scheduled with
them later today. I wanted to try to rule out a AD problem.



Thanks







Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Sorry Rick. Thread overlap. :)



Whether or not you need to make a change
depends on the application. For example, if they use the operating system
to handle the authentication calls, then it should work fine, right? If they do
something else, they should have documented it and should tell you what is
needed. What is the application saying they need to do?Which
application is it out of curiosity?



Al









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

I think we have a miscom here: I have no
5.5 server-- I assume that you mean exchange 5.5 (we are all ex2k3).



More details:



I have an app that runs on a win2k3 that
uses either LDAP or Kerberos to authenticate its users against our 2003
active directory. The app server is part of our domain but the app that runs on
it is a third party app 

[ActiveDir] Unlock user account in mass

2004-08-05 Thread Robert N. Leali
Title: Kerberos question








What is the easiest way to unlock multiple
user accounts in Active Directory? Random accounts locked up today and I need
a way to unlock them without having to go user by user. Is there a tool or
script already written?



Any help would be appreciated.



Robert











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





I am looking that up now









Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





This stands out

Pre-authentication failed:









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

The program uses apache, I am still
working with the vendor on this.

This is the error from the DC:



Event Type:
Failure Audit

Event Source: Security

Event
Category:
Account Logon 

Event
ID: 675

Date:
8/5/2004

Time:
3:15:59 PM

User:
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM

Computer:
KINGS-DC01

Description:

Pre-authentication failed:


User Name: ricktest


User
ID:
KINGS\ricktest


Service Name: krbtgt/KINGS.EDU


Pre-Authentication Type:
0x0


Failure Code: 0x19


Client Address: 10.1.18.48





For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.





Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:54
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





There are tools to monitor kerberos
conversations (capture), but I think you're likely better off using
success/failure audit logging to see what's going on, what's being attempted
and whereauthentication isfailing.



I think the following is most likely to be
helpful http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326985









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

Question,: is there a utility that would
use Kerberos to login (Kind of like a test login utility)?



We are not experiencing any problem with
logins anywhere (except as mentioned).. This is the first non windows
application we are deploying that uses Kerberos (outside of windows). IT does
recognize a bad password as a bad password, but throws an error with the
correct password is given:



ERROR(1006)
An error occurred in WebCT authorization.







Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





So that leads to the next question then:
do you have a problem going on? If so, can you give some details?



Al









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
11:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

The application is called WebCT. www.webct.com. It is a distance learning app
that runs off a web server. Their documentation is some what lacking, and their
support is not really that good.



I do have everything set up as they
request, so I was thinking that my problem is on my end.



I do have a support call scheduled with
them later today. I wanted to try to rule out a AD problem.



Thanks







Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Sorry Rick. Thread overlap. :)



Whether or not you need to make a change
depends on the application. For example, if they use the operating system
to handle the authentication calls, then it should work fine, right? If they do
something else, they should have documented it and should tell you what is
needed. What is the application saying they need to do?Which
application is it out of curiosity?



Al









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 

Re: [ActiveDir] Unlock user account in mass

2004-08-05 Thread James_Day
Hi Robert

I have two scripts we used a few weeks ago when we had this problem.  They
were written based on some of Robbie Allens scripting in his Tuna Book.

(See attached file: bulkunlock3.vbs)(See attached file: collect nt
usernames.vbs)

Create a file on the root of drive C called ntuserlist.txt and a second
file called lockedaccounts.txt.  Edit both scripts to change the domain
name from DOMAINNAME to whatever your domain is.  Run the Collect NT
usernames script - this will put up a done message box when it finishes and
provide a list of all users in your domain.  Run the bulkunlock3 which will
read the list and unlock any locked accounts.  The list of accounts that
were unlocked will show up in lockedaccounts.txt while a message box will
be provided with the number of accounts unlocked.

Regards;

James R. Day
National Parks Service - AD Core Team
(202) 354-1464
Fax (202) 371-1549
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What is the easiest way to unlock multiple user accounts in Active
Directory?  Random accounts locked up today and I need a way to unlock them
without having to go user by user.  Is there a tool or script already
written?

Any help would be appreciated.

Robert


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

I am looking that up now





Rick Gasper
Manager, Network Services
King's College
133 N. River St
Wilkes-Barre PA  18711
PH: 570-208-5845
Fax: 570-208-6072
Cell: 570-760-0335
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

This stands out
Pre-authentication failed:


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question
The program uses apache, I am still working with the vendor on this.
This is the error from the DC:

Event Type:  Failure Audit
Event Source:   Security
Event Category:Account Logon
Event ID:  675
Date:8/5/2004
Time:   3:15:59 PM
User:NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer:KINGS-DC01
Description:
Pre-authentication failed:
User Name:  ricktest
User ID:   KINGS\ricktest
Service Name:  krbtgt/KINGS.EDU
Pre-Authentication Type:   0x0
Failure Code:0x19
Client Address: 10.1.18.48


For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.



Rick Gasper
Manager, Network Services
King's College
133 N. River St
Wilkes-Barre PA  18711
PH: 570-208-5845
Fax: 570-208-6072
Cell: 570-760-0335
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

There are tools to monitor kerberos conversations (capture), but I think
you're likely better off using success/failure audit logging to see what's
going on, what's being attempted and where authentication is failing.

I think the 

[ActiveDir] Extremely weird issue

2004-08-05 Thread Alex Etin
Title: Kerberos question










I have encountered a very
weird issue at this client.

 

 The situation is as
follows (i will do my best to try not to confuse 

 anyone).

 

 Client has an AD domain.
AD domain is 2003 based. Forest level: 2003 

 native. Domain level -
2003 native.

 

 There is a few policies
that are being applied. Some of them are applied 

 at the domain level, and
some are applied at an OU level.

 

 Being tested are 2
workstations. One of them has a clean build of Windows 

 2000 Pro, service pack 4.
The other one, is also W2K Pr0 SP4, but it is a 

 custom client image. This
image does not have any special application, but 

 it does have a few
registry patches/entries applied to it, although from 

 what i have seen, its not
distructive.

 

 Here is the problem:

 

 When the both machines,
in the same OU start up, the client image 

 machine gets
stuck during applicaiton of one of the domain wide policies 

 (before logon screen even
appears, so it is computer policy that is being 

 processed). It will sit
on this stuck stage, while Processing Policy A 

 is displayed. After 1.5 -
2 minutes the logon screen appears and all is 

 well. The clean build
machine starts up with no delay. Now here is the 

 interesting bit: IF i
unlink domain policy A, then the machine simply gets 

 stuck on policy B. If i
unlink B and A, it will stuck on policy C. If i 

 Unlink A,B and C, it will
get stuck on policy D (which applies at OU 

 level). None of these policies
are complex, in fact A B and C only have 2-

 3 entires in them. Plus,
the clean build machine has no delays. Another 

 note - while in
stuck stage, the HDD of the machine goes like crazy!

 

 I have turned on
UserEnvLogging, and i have a Severity B ticket open with 

 Microsoft, in fact i am
on the phone with them now (have been for about 4 

 hours). 

 

 I have USERENV.LOG dumps
if anyone is interested, i even found something 

 of interest there and i
have pointed it out to MS support guy as well. So 

 far, nothing. The client
needs this resolved asap, we need to find what in 

 the build is causing this
problem. Redesigning the image is not an option 

 as client spend years
developing it.

 

 If anyone has seen
anything like this, i would greatly greatly appreciate 

 your help!

 












RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 5.5 to 2003 upgrade/migration

2004-08-05 Thread james . blair

Laura,

We have recently gone through this procedure and it is not as painful as you
would expect...The ADMT (Active Directory Migration Tool) is the way to go
if you the target domain is going to be in native mode and if you Google
ADMT NT 4.0 - 2003 migration you get all sorts of information, heres a bit
to start you off.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=325851product=winsvr2003
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/profwin/pw0402.mspx
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/exchange2003/exchange_2003_ADMT.htm
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/Migrating_Windows_NT_to_
Windows_Server_2003.html

If however you are like us and are not able to goto native mode you can do
an NT4 - 2003 upgrade which is a fairly painless procedure:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326209product=winsvr2003

The Exchange part is pretty interesting however and you can do an in-place
upgrade utilising an AD connector...:

One Option:
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6268_11-5268995-2.html
Another:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=77B6D819-C7B3-42D1-
8FBB-FE6339FFA1EDdisplaylang=en
Some Ideas:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Email_Groupware/Exchange_Server/Q
_20801908.html

This should keep you out of trouble I can give you more info specific to not
using ADMT if you wish.

James 


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Laura E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 12:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 5.5 to 2003 upgrade/migration

So I may be inheriting a new network that needs to do the 5.5 on NT4 to
2003 on 2003 shuffle.  Your basic Google search returns any number of
resources, obviously; but what does my favourite group of smart people
have to say?  Recommended Books/FAQs/Blogs/Sites that will make me not
want to kill myselfquite as much?

*
Laura E. Hunter
MCT, MCSE: Security, MVP - Windows Networking
Senior IT Specialist
University of Pennsylvania
 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread joe
Title: Kerberos question



Pre-Authentication is a security measure to prevent a 
client from calling to the KDC and getting a response back that it can work on 
cracking to break the encryption. The client has to prove who it is before it 
gets anything useful basically...

You can disable pre-auth for an account through the ADUC 
GUI by looking at the Account Tab and looking specifically at account options 
then Do not Require Kerberos preauthentication... It is a bit in 
userAccountControl, specifically 0x40. I would say disable it to test to see 
if it then works, but I wouldn't leave it configured that way. It is just a 
method to make sure everything else is ok.

Pre-Auth is not the default for any of the kerberos 
implementations EXCEPT for the MS implementation from what I recall. 


 joe




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:24 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question


The program uses 
apache, I am still working with the vendor on this.
This is the error from 
the DC:

Event 
Type: Failure Audit
Event 
Source: Security
Event 
Category: 
Account Logon 
Event 
ID: 675
Date: 
8/5/2004
Time: 
3:15:59 PM
User: 
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: 
KINGS-DC01
Description:
Pre-authentication 
failed:
 
User Name: ricktest
 
User 
ID: 
KINGS\ricktest
 
Service Name: krbtgt/KINGS.EDU
 
Pre-Authentication 
Type: 
0x0
 
Failure Code: 0x19
 
Client Address: 10.1.18.48


For more information, 
see Help and Support Center at 
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 2:54 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

There are tools to 
monitor kerberos conversations (capture), but I think you're likely better off 
using success/failure audit logging to see what's going on, what's being 
attempted and whereauthentication isfailing.

I think the following 
is most likely to be helpful http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326985




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 2:41 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
Question,: is there a 
utility that would use Kerberos to login (Kind of like a test login 
utility)?

We are not experiencing 
any problem with logins anywhere (except as mentioned).. This is the first 
non windows application we are deploying that uses Kerberos (outside of 
windows). IT does recognize a bad password as a bad password, but throws an 
error with the correct password is given:

ERROR(1006)An error occurred in WebCT 
authorization.



Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 2:00 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

So that leads to the 
next question then: do you have a problem going on? If so, can you give 
some details?

Al




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 11:26 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
The application is 
called WebCT. www.webct.com. It is a 
distance learning app that runs off a web server. Their documentation is some 
what lacking, and their support is not really that good.

I do have everything 
set up as they request, so I was thinking that my problem is on my 
end.

I do have a support 
call scheduled with them later today. I wanted to try to rule out a AD 
problem.

Thanks



Rick 
Gasper 
Manager, 
Network Services 
King's 
College 
133 N. River 
St 
Wilkes-Barre 
PA 18711 
PH: 
570-208-5845 
Fax: 
570-208-6072 
Cell: 
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mulnick, 
AlSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 10:44 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question

Sorry Rick. 
Thread overlap. :)

Whether or not you need 
to make a change depends on the application. For example, if they use the 
operating system to handle the authentication calls, then it should work fine, 
right? If they do something else, they should have documented it and should tell 
you what is needed. What is the application saying they need to 
do?Which application is it out of curiosity?

Al




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gasper, 
RickSent: Thursday, August 05, 
2004 10:29 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos 
question
I think we have a 
miscom 

RE: [ActiveDir] How do you determine if information about an object is replicted?

2004-08-05 Thread joe
I saw your previous post, just didn't get a chance to hit it yet.

The answer, if I understand the question, is the schema. 

Whether an attribute replicates or not is controlled by a bit in the
systemFlags attribute. Bit 1 to be exact...

So if you want to look at your AD and find out all attributes that don't
replicate you do the following

Adfind -schema -bit -f systemflags:AND:=1 ldapdisplayname


In my main test forest which is 2K3 Native (brand new not 2K upgrade) with
2K3 installed (brand new not 2K upgrade) I get about or so non-replicating
attributes. If I filter out backlinks (exercise for the class why you don't
have to replicate back links...) with the following query

Adfind -schema -bit -f (systemflags:AND:=1)(!(linkid:AND:=1))
ldapdisplayname

I get 31 attributes and they are below...


In the meanwhile, settings for DNS that don't get replicated are probably
kept in the registry or some config file for DNS. 

  joe



[Thu 08/05/2004 18:39:11.21]
F:\DEV\cpp\NetSessAdfind -schema -bit -f
(systemflags:AND:=1)(!(linkid:AND:=1)) ldapdisplayname

AdFind V01.17.00cpp Joe Richards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) May 2004

Transformed Filter:
(systemflags:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=1)(!(linkid:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=1)
)
Using server: 2k3dc01.joe.com
Base DN: CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com

dn:CN=Last-Logoff,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: lastLogoff

dn:CN=Last-Logon,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: lastLogon

dn:CN=Bad-Password-Time,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: badPasswordTime

dn:CN=Bad-Pwd-Count,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: badPwdCount

dn:CN=Logon-Count,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: logonCount

dn:CN=Repl-Property-Meta-Data,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: replPropertyMetaData

dn:CN=Repl-UpToDate-Vector,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: replUpToDateVector

dn:CN=Reps-From,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: repsFrom

dn:CN=Reps-To,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: repsTo

dn:CN=RID-Next-RID,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: rIDNextRID

dn:CN=RID-Previous-Allocation-Pool,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: rIDPreviousAllocationPool

dn:CN=Schema-Update,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: schemaUpdate

dn:CN=Modified-Count,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: modifiedCount

dn:CN=Server-State,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: serverState

dn:CN=ms-DS-Cached-Membership,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: msDS-Cached-Membership

dn:CN=ms-DS-Cached-Membership-Time-Stamp,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,D
C=com
lDAPDisplayName: msDS-Cached-Membership-Time-Stamp

dn:CN=Sub-Refs,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: subRefs

dn:CN=ms-DS-ExecuteScriptPassword,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: msDS-ExecuteScriptPassword

dn:CN=DS-Core-Propagation-Data,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: dSCorePropagationData

dn:CN=Obj-Dist-Name,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: distinguishedName

dn:CN=Object-Guid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: objectGUID

dn:CN=ms-DS-ReplicationEpoch,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: msDS-ReplicationEpoch

dn:CN=ms-DS-Retired-Repl-NC-Signatures,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=
com
lDAPDisplayName: msDS-RetiredReplNCSignatures

dn:CN=USN-Changed,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: uSNChanged

dn:CN=USN-Created,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: uSNCreated

dn:CN=Partial-Attribute-Deletion-List,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=c
om
lDAPDisplayName: partialAttributeDeletionList

dn:CN=Partial-Attribute-Set,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: partialAttributeSet

dn:CN=USN-Last-Obj-Rem,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: uSNLastObjRem

dn:CN=Pek-List,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: pekList

dn:CN=When-Changed,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: whenChanged

dn:CN=Prefix-Map,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
lDAPDisplayName: prefixMap


31 Objects returned

[Thu 08/05/2004 18:39:15.40]
F:\DEV\cpp\NetSess


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] How do you determine if information about an object is
replicted?

(Resend as I did not see this hit the list yesterday)

This is a learning question.  Nothing is broken but I would like to know
where some information is located.

How can I tell and where do I go to find out what information is replicated
in Active Directory at the DNS zone level itself.  For 

RE: [ActiveDir] AD Backup - Sort of

2004-08-05 Thread joe
That much is true. 

:o)



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coleman, Hunter
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Backup - Sort of

At least they threw you a boneKeeping with the Windows 2003 initiative
that everything that can be done in the GUI should be available via command
line, a command line version of the tool that contains all of the same
features is included as well.



From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Backup - Sort of


[INBOUND RULES]
From,Michael B. Smith, SENDTO, Deleted Items
 
 
Grr!
 

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Backup - Sort of


Admodify rocks. I use it even more than I use adfind. 
 
:-)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coleman, Hunter
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Backup - Sort of


Ted-
 
I just saw this post:
http://blogs.msdn.com/exchange/archive/2004/08/04/208045.aspx
 
I haven't played with either version of ADModify, so I can't comment on
whether it's easier than LDIFDE or script to do bulk mods. Maybe you can
check it out in all of your spare time and report back :-)
 
Hunter



From: Strand, Ted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Backup - Sort of


Thanks for the suggestions Al, I will admit that it really makes me nervous
to change replication on AD since (knock on wood) it is working so well. I
have done testing in the lab for a couple of weeks now and I think I have it
all worked out, I just want to feel comfortable knowing that I can take an
export and be able to put the data back in from the export file.  This was
so easy in Exchange 5.5 you would think AD would offer similar features.
-Ted-
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:54 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Backup - Sort of


A popular way to do what you discuss is to change replication parameters
during the upgrade.  Basically, have the ADC talk to an Active Directory
isolated server, check for errors and then bring it back into the
replication cycle.  
 
Another alternative I've seen work is to take a DC off-line during the
upgrade.  I've seen some introduce a new one first and then bring it
off-line during the upgrade.  After the all clear, it's then removed from
the domain else brought back on-line.  
 
The first option is much better as it offers you a chance to check it out
prior to moving forward.  The second option works if you can flatten all
DC's but the one with the good data, in essence creating a hot backup.  I
suppose you could just mark all the records authoritative and then
reintroduce it, but
 
I've never seen a successful ADC deployment that didn't spend a lot of time
in the lab getting it right. 
 
Al



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Strand, Ted
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Backup - Sort of


I am about to turn on a connection agreement for my first AD connector.  I
have backed up the exchange directory and also exported the directory to csv
for recovery.  I would like to do the same thing with the AD data to have a
roll-back plan if the CA does something I didn't expect.  I have played with
LDIFDE and the CSV equivalent, and although I have been able to export with
both, I have not been able to import back in to change the data.  Are there
any other (preferably free) methods to capture this ad data, and then reuse
it to undo changes?  I would hate to have to do an authoritative restore
from tape to fix any issues.
 
Thanks
 
-Ted Strand-
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Re: [ActiveDir] How do you determine if information about an object is replicted?

2004-08-05 Thread Steve
Perfect.  Exactly what I wanted to know.  I'm off to run the adfind
tool in my test forest and see the results.

Thanks for the information.

Cheers

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:41:22 -0400, joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I saw your previous post, just didn't get a chance to hit it yet.
 
 The answer, if I understand the question, is the schema.
 
 Whether an attribute replicates or not is controlled by a bit in the
 systemFlags attribute. Bit 1 to be exact...
 
 So if you want to look at your AD and find out all attributes that don't
 replicate you do the following
 
 Adfind -schema -bit -f systemflags:AND:=1 ldapdisplayname
 
 In my main test forest which is 2K3 Native (brand new not 2K upgrade) with
 2K3 installed (brand new not 2K upgrade) I get about or so non-replicating
 attributes. If I filter out backlinks (exercise for the class why you don't
 have to replicate back links...) with the following query
 
 Adfind -schema -bit -f (systemflags:AND:=1)(!(linkid:AND:=1))
 ldapdisplayname
 
 I get 31 attributes and they are below...
 
 In the meanwhile, settings for DNS that don't get replicated are probably
 kept in the registry or some config file for DNS.
 
  joe
 
 [Thu 08/05/2004 18:39:11.21]
 F:\DEV\cpp\NetSessAdfind -schema -bit -f
 (systemflags:AND:=1)(!(linkid:AND:=1)) ldapdisplayname
 
 AdFind V01.17.00cpp Joe Richards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) May 2004
 
 Transformed Filter:
 (systemflags:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=1)(!(linkid:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=1)
 )
 Using server: 2k3dc01.joe.com
 Base DN: CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 
 dn:CN=Last-Logoff,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: lastLogoff
 
 dn:CN=Last-Logon,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: lastLogon
 
 dn:CN=Bad-Password-Time,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: badPasswordTime
 
 dn:CN=Bad-Pwd-Count,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: badPwdCount
 
 dn:CN=Logon-Count,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: logonCount
 
 dn:CN=Repl-Property-Meta-Data,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: replPropertyMetaData
 
 dn:CN=Repl-UpToDate-Vector,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: replUpToDateVector
 
 dn:CN=Reps-From,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: repsFrom
 
 dn:CN=Reps-To,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: repsTo
 
 dn:CN=RID-Next-RID,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: rIDNextRID
 
 dn:CN=RID-Previous-Allocation-Pool,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: rIDPreviousAllocationPool
 
 dn:CN=Schema-Update,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: schemaUpdate
 
 dn:CN=Modified-Count,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: modifiedCount
 
 dn:CN=Server-State,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: serverState
 
 dn:CN=ms-DS-Cached-Membership,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: msDS-Cached-Membership
 
 dn:CN=ms-DS-Cached-Membership-Time-Stamp,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,D
 C=com
 lDAPDisplayName: msDS-Cached-Membership-Time-Stamp
 
 dn:CN=Sub-Refs,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: subRefs
 
 dn:CN=ms-DS-ExecuteScriptPassword,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: msDS-ExecuteScriptPassword
 
 dn:CN=DS-Core-Propagation-Data,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: dSCorePropagationData
 
 dn:CN=Obj-Dist-Name,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: distinguishedName
 
 dn:CN=Object-Guid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: objectGUID
 
 dn:CN=ms-DS-ReplicationEpoch,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: msDS-ReplicationEpoch
 
 dn:CN=ms-DS-Retired-Repl-NC-Signatures,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=
 com
 lDAPDisplayName: msDS-RetiredReplNCSignatures
 
 dn:CN=USN-Changed,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: uSNChanged
 
 dn:CN=USN-Created,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: uSNCreated
 
 dn:CN=Partial-Attribute-Deletion-List,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=c
 om
 lDAPDisplayName: partialAttributeDeletionList
 
 dn:CN=Partial-Attribute-Set,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: partialAttributeSet
 
 dn:CN=USN-Last-Obj-Rem,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: uSNLastObjRem
 
 dn:CN=Pek-List,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: pekList
 
 dn:CN=When-Changed,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: whenChanged
 
 dn:CN=Prefix-Map,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=joe,DC=com
 lDAPDisplayName: prefixMap
 
 31 Objects returned
 
 [Thu 08/05/2004 18:39:15.40]
 F:\DEV\cpp\NetSess
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:40 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] How do 

RE: [ActiveDir] default containers

2004-08-05 Thread deji
What I do here is put up a web interface to a script that does the
pre-creation in the background. I have 2 flavors. One is for the Helpdesk
Admins. They log into the website, type in a computer name, type in the name
of the computer's owner, pick the site/location of the owner (from a
drop-down) list and hit Submit. The script then create the computer
account, put it in the associate OU, and ACL the computer object, giving the
specified user the ability to join THAT computer to the Domain.
 
The other flavor is for a QA domain where people reimage computers daily. The
QA guy logs in, the login process takes the guy's name/location. The QA guys
types in a computer name and the script goes and create/ACL the computer in
the relevant OU, giving the QA guy the rights to join it to the Domain.
 
I can share the code with you offline, but you have to promise not to tell,
you-know-who :)
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Creamer, Mark
Sent: Thu 8/5/2004 9:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] default containers



Thanks all for the responses - We're 2000 presently, so I'll look at the
scripted or pre-create options. Thanks again

 

mc



From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] default containers

 

If you are using Windows 2003 AD you can use redircmp to change the default
computers container targeted by the legacy join calls.

 

The more robust method though, is to script the join. 

 

  joe

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Creamer, Mark
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] default containers

Is there a way to change the default location for a computer when it gets
added to the domain to be a specific OU, rather than the Computers container?
Or would this have to be done by scripting the add computer process?

Mark Creamer

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[ActiveDir] Extracting information for Event Logs

2004-08-05 Thread Caple, Andrew
Title: Message



Good morning 
everyone,

I've been asked to 
extract some information from our RAS server to see who has been dialling in 
over a certain period of time. The RAS server is an NT4 server. When I connect 
to it and have a look at the "Security" event logs I can see the 
entry:

Failure 
Audit 
05/08/2004 
10:47:53PM 
Security 
Logon/Logoff

This can be exported 
to a text file, however I need to extract the user name from the log entry - is 
this possible?

Regards, 
Andrew


P.S -- have a good 
weekend!!!


RE: [ActiveDir] Extracting information for Event Logs

2004-08-05 Thread deji
Try eventcombMT.exe, part of secops:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=9989D
151-5C55-4BD3-A9D2-B95A15C73E92
 
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Caple, Andrew
Sent: Thu 8/5/2004 5:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Extracting information for Event Logs


Good morning everyone,
 
I've been asked to extract some information from our RAS server to see who
has been dialling in over a certain period of time. The RAS server is an NT4
server. When I connect to it and have a look at the Security event logs I
can see the entry:
 
Failure Audit05/08/200410:47:53PMSecurity
Logon/Logoff
 
This can be exported to a text file, however I need to extract the user name
from the log entry - is this possible?
 
Regards, Andrew
 
 
P.S -- have a good weekend!!!
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RE: [ActiveDir] Unlock user account in mass

2004-08-05 Thread Brian Desmond
Don't you think that there's a bigger issue that needs to be tackled first? What is 
causing this? I'd make sure auditing is turned on for your domains ecurity policy and 
start looking at failure records on your DCs.
 
That aside, ADModify.Net can probably do this.
 
--Brian

-Original Message- 
From: Robert N. Leali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 8/5/2004 3:42 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: [ActiveDir] Unlock user account in mass



What is the easiest way to unlock multiple user accounts in Active Directory?  
Random accounts locked up today and I need a way to unlock them without having to go 
user by user.  Is there a tool or script already written?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Robert

 


  _  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

 

I am looking that up now

 

 

 

Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre PA  18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell: 570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


  _  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

 

This stands out

Pre-authentication failed:

 


  _  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

The program uses apache, I am still working with the vendor on this.

This is the error from the DC:

 

Event Type:  Failure Audit

Event Source:   Security

Event Category:Account Logon 

Event ID:  675

Date:8/5/2004

Time:   3:15:59 PM

User:NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM

Computer:KINGS-DC01

Description:

Pre-authentication failed:

User Name:  ricktest

User ID:   KINGS\ricktest

Service Name:  krbtgt/KINGS.EDU

Pre-Authentication Type:   0x0

Failure Code:0x19

Client Address: 10.1.18.48

 

 

For more information, see Help and Support Center at 
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

 

Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre PA  18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell: 570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


  _  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

 

There are tools to monitor kerberos conversations (capture), but I think 
you're likely better off using success/failure audit logging to see what's going on, 
what's being attempted and where authentication is failing. 

 

I think the following is most likely to be helpful 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326985 

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

Question,: is there a utility that would use Kerberos to login (Kind of like a 
test login utility)?

 

We are not experiencing any problem with logins anywhere  (except as 
mentioned).. This is the first non windows application we are deploying that uses 
Kerberos (outside of windows). IT does recognize a bad password as a bad password, but 
throws an error with the correct password is given:

 

ERROR(1006)
An error occurred in WebCT authorization.

 

 

Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre PA  18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell: 570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


  _  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 

Re: [ActiveDir] krbtgt error when joining OS X client

2004-08-05 Thread Brent Westmoreland
Title: Re: [ActiveDir] krbtgt error when joining OS X client




Hmmm, 

These directions look strangely familiar ; )

Dont forget to set your timeserver...It is THE most common error.

If you have set the Mac to have a Domain Controller as the time server and you still have errors then you should check the DNS settings, 

Brent

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:39:15 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] krbtgt error when joining OS X client

See if any of this helps as far as getting an AD computer account: 
 
3. Join the Machine to Active Directory
Open the finder and browse to /Applications/Utilities and open Directory Access. 
If the lock in the lower left corner is in the locked position, click on it and enter the appropriate credentials. 
Click Active Directory and click Configure you should then be able to enter your forest name in the Active Directory Forest box, enter your AD domain in the Active Directory Domain box, and finally the name of the computer account you want to use in the Computer ID box. 
Click the Hide Advanced Options box and unless you will absolutely need to authenticate users from multiple domains, then clear the checkbox. 
If the machine is a laptop, make sure to cache local accounts (You may also want to do this for desktop users who do not have network home directories.). You can also choose to allow AD groups administrative rights to the mac. By default this is set to Domain  Enterprise admins. 
When finished with all your options click the Bind button. 
You will be prompted for an account with permissions to add computers to the domain. When entering your account ID, do not prefix it with the netbios name of your domain, the sAMAccountName alone will bind. The default ldap computer account location is in the CN=Computers area off the root default domain NC. You can change this by adding a fully distinguished path to the Container or OU of your choice. 
The machine will go through 5 steps and hopefully bind successfully. 
Go back to the Directory Access application and click the Authentication tab at the top. Under search click Custom Path and click Add. A box will pop up and display the Active Directory connector you just added click Add, click Apply. 
If you have successfully bound and added the AD connector to your authentication path, then you can log off and attempt to login using the sAMAccountname of an Active Directory user. 


Troubleshooting AD Authentication

If you have any issues, enable remote login in the Sharing section of System Preferences and use another machine to SSH into the Mac. If you are using a windows box to SSH there is a free application called putty that you can use, just google for it. 

After ssh'ing into the box with an admin user account, enter the command: 

sudo killall -USR1 DirectoryService 

this command puts the lookupd daemon in debug logging mode, then type: 

tail -f /Library/Logs/DirectoryService/DirectoryService.debug.log | grep ADPlug 

this tells your shell to read the tail end of the log file and print any new entries to STDOUT. 

Now attempt to login to the machine, and your SSH machine will capture what is going on with the AD Plugin. 
 
Kevin Gent
Pearson Digital Learning
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Noah Eiger
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:10 PM
To: Active Directory List
Subject: [ActiveDir] krbtgt error when joining OS X client

 


Good morning (at least where I am):
 
 
 
I spent yesterday at a client trying to get some Mac OS X 10.3.4 clients to play nice with the enterprise AD. After trying many combinations of settings during the binding phase, we gave up: the Mac could not bind to the DC. 
 
 
 
The Macs system log showed this for every attempt at binding:
 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Kerberos.framework/Servers/CCacheServer.app/Contents/MacOS/CCacheServer: Starting up.
 
Aug 3 15:12:50 localhost DirectoryService[211]: Active Directory DS Plugin: Could not determine site for closest DC!
 
 
 
The DC showed this in the security error log:
 
The description for Event ID (675) in Source (Security) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. The following information is part of the event: username, username, krbtgt/AB.bigbiz.NET, 0x0, 0x19, 139.27.76.198.
 
(names and addresses changed)
 
 
 
I can get more detailed about the configuration we were attempting if you think that would help. I have limited experience in an enterprise of this size (worldwide, with several hundred sites). The forest/domain structure did not seem to use child domains. So, the forest name was mo.largeco.net and the domain was ab.bigbiz.net.
 
 
 
Any thoughts definitely appreciated.
 
 
 
nme 
 
 







RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

2004-08-05 Thread Gasper, Rick
Title: Kerberos question








I got it, there is a shared secret ticket
key that was set wrong. (bad documentation).



Thanks for everyones help











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
4:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





I am looking that up now









Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





This stands out

Pre-authentication failed:









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

The program uses apache, I am still
working with the vendor on this.

This is the error from the DC:



Event Type:
Failure Audit

Event Source: Security

Event
Category:
Account Logon 

Event
ID: 675

Date:
8/5/2004

Time:
3:15:59 PM

User:
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM

Computer:
KINGS-DC01

Description:

Pre-authentication failed:


User Name: ricktest


User
ID:
KINGS\ricktest


Service Name: krbtgt/KINGS.EDU


Pre-Authentication
Type: 0x0


Failure Code: 0x19


Client Address: 10.1.18.48





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Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





There are tools to monitor kerberos
conversations (capture), but I think you're likely better off using success/failure
audit logging to see what's going on, what's being attempted and
whereauthentication isfailing.



I think the following is most likely to be
helpful http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326985









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos question

Question,: is there a utility that would
use Kerberos to login (Kind of like a test login utility)?



We are not experiencing any problem with
logins anywhere (except as mentioned).. This is the first non windows
application we are deploying that uses Kerberos (outside of windows). IT does
recognize a bad password as a bad password, but throws an error with the
correct password is given:



ERROR(1006)
An error occurred in WebCT authorization.







Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





So that leads to the next question then:
do you have a problem going on? If so, can you give some details?



Al









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
11:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

The application is called WebCT. www.webct.com. It is a distance learning app
that runs off a web server. Their documentation is some what lacking, and their
support is not really that good.



I do have everything set up as they
request, so I was thinking that my problem is on my end.



I do have a support call scheduled with
them later today. I wanted to try to rule out a AD problem.



Thanks







Rick Gasper 
Manager, Network
Services 
King's College 
133 N. River St 
Wilkes-Barre
PA 18711 
PH: 570-208-5845 
Fax: 570-208-6072 
Cell:
570-760-0335 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question





Sorry Rick. Thread overlap. :)



Whether or not you need to make a change
depends on the application. For example, if they use the operating system
to handle the authentication calls, then it should work fine, right? If they do
something else, they should have documented it and should tell you what is
needed. What is the application saying they need to do?Which
application is it out of curiosity?



Al









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gasper, Rick
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004
10:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Kerberos
question

I think we have a miscom here: I