RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
Everyone thanks for all your responses, they were all very useful. --Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kamlesh Parmar Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:56 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question How to upgrade Windows 2000 domain controllers to Windows Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325379 Just follow the steps for forestprep & domainprep and then introduce win2003 DC. It will be in same domain. This also covers, some checks for exchange too. Of all the services, DHCP can become risky to move without adequate safeguards, take a look at this article. How to move a DHCP database from a computer that is running Windows NT Server 4.0, Windows 2000, or Windows Server 2003 to a computer that is running Windows Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325473 -- Kamlesh On 10/10/05, Alborzfard, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the advice! Excuse my ignorance, but how do I upgrade the schema, while I'm installing the WIN2K3 server? Ditto for migrating FSMOs. Does it mean that I would have a 2K and 2K3 AD domain coexisting for a while until I remove 2K AD? When you said move DNS, WINS, DHCP, you meant Just installing them on the new server, right? Did you also have to migrate Exchange (from 2K to 2K3) by any chance? If so, in what sequence you did the upgrade? Thanks --Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I would, if budget allows, go the second route. Do the schema upgrade bring up new windows 2003 server. Migrate FSMO roles to it. Move DNS,WINS etc to the new server and then DCPROMO, one at time, your other servers out. Reinstall them with W2K3 and dcpromo them back in. Did this with a 700 user network with no downtime. Regards Peter Johnson P.S Look out for the article on migrating your DHCP database. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 15:26 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What's the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex -- ~~~ "Fortune and Love befriend the bold" ~~~
Re: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
How to upgrade Windows 2000 domain controllers to Windows Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=325379 Just follow the steps for forestprep & domainprep and then introduce win2003 DC. It will be in same domain.This also covers, some checks for exchange too. Of all the services, DHCP can become risky to move without adequate safeguards, take a look at this article. How to move a DHCP database from a computer that is running Windows NT Server 4.0, Windows 2000, or Windows Server 2003 to a computer that is running Windows Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325473 -- Kamlesh On 10/10/05, Alborzfard, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the advice! Excuse my ignorance, but how do I upgrade the schema, while I'm installing the WIN2K3 server? Ditto for migrating FSMOs. Does it mean that I would have a 2K and 2K3 AD domain coexisting for a while until I remove 2K AD? When you said move DNS, WINS, DHCP, you meant Just installing them on the new server, right? Did you also have to migrate Exchange (from 2K to 2K3) by any chance? If so, in what sequence you did the upgrade? Thanks --Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I would, if budget allows, go the second route. Do the schema upgrade bring up new windows 2003 server. Migrate FSMO roles to it. Move DNS,WINS etc to the new server and then DCPROMO, one at time, your other servers out. Reinstall them with W2K3 and dcpromo them back in. Did this with a 700 user network with no downtime. Regards Peter Johnson P.S Look out for the article on migrating your DHCP database. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 15:26 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What's the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex -- ~~~"Fortune and Love befriend the bold"~~~
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
Upgrade KBs: See: MS-KBQ314649_W2K3 ADPREP Command Causes Mangled Attributes in W2K Forests That Contain E2K Servers MS-KBQ325379_How to Upgrade Windows 2000 Domain Controllers to Windows Server 2003 MS-KBQ555040_Common Mistakes When Upgrade Windows 2000 Domain To Windows 2003 MS-KBQ324392_Enhancements to Adprep.exe in Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 and in hotfix 324392 Also see: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/ServerHelp/bc5ebbdb-a8d7-4761-b38a-e207baa73419.mspx) http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2003_adprep.htm MS-KBQ555038_How to enable Windows 98-ME-NT clients to logon to Windows 2003 based Domains MS-KBQ887426_Incorrect Schema extension for OS X prevents ForestPrep from completing in Windows 2000 MS-KBQ555262_Common Mistakes When Upgrading Exchange 5.5-2000 To a Exchange 2003 MS-KBQ822942_Considerations When You Upgrade to Exchange Server 2003 Cheers Jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Johnson Sent: Mon 10/10/2005 4:43 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question Hi Alex Get hold of the MS article on upgrading Windows 2000 Ad to 2003. Basically you will need to do the schema extensions on your current Schema master. Once the changes have replicated to your other DC's then bring up your first W2K3 DC and move the FSMO roles, taking into account DC/GC placements etc and then carry on as in my first mail. Regards Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 16:16 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question Thanks for the advice! Excuse my ignorance, but how do I upgrade the schema, while I'm installing the WIN2K3 server? Ditto for migrating FSMOs. Does it mean that I would have a 2K and 2K3 AD domain coexisting for a while until I remove 2K AD? When you said move DNS, WINS, DHCP, you meant Just installing them on the new server, right? Did you also have to migrate Exchange (from 2K to 2K3) by any chance? If so, in what sequence you did the upgrade? Thanks --Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I would, if budget allows, go the second route. Do the schema upgrade bring up new windows 2003 server. Migrate FSMO roles to it. Move DNS,WINS etc to the new server and then DCPROMO, one at time, your other servers out. Reinstall them with W2K3 and dcpromo them back in. Did this with a 700 user network with no downtime. Regards Peter Johnson P.S Look out for the article on migrating your DHCP database. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 15:26 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What's the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
You need to upgrade the schema first (before you install the first 2k3 DC). Do an adprep /forestprep from the 2003 CD on the 2000 box. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 10:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question Thanks for the advice! Excuse my ignorance, but how do I upgrade the schema, while I’m installing the WIN2K3 server? Ditto for migrating FSMOs. Does it mean that I would have a 2K and 2K3 AD domain coexisting for a while until I remove 2K AD? When you said move DNS, WINS, DHCP, you meant Just installing them on the new server, right? Did you also have to migrate Exchange (from 2K to 2K3) by any chance? If so, in what sequence you did the upgrade? Thanks --Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I would, if budget allows, go the second route. Do the schema upgrade bring up new windows 2003 server. Migrate FSMO roles to it. Move DNS,WINS etc to the new server and then DCPROMO, one at time, your other servers out. Reinstall them with W2K3 and dcpromo them back in. Did this with a 700 user network with no downtime. Regards Peter Johnson P.S Look out for the article on migrating your DHCP database. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 15:26 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What’s the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
Hi Alex Get hold of the MS article on upgrading Windows 2000 Ad to 2003. Basically you will need to do the schema extensions on your current Schema master. Once the changes have replicated to your other DC’s then bring up your first W2K3 DC and move the FSMO roles, taking into account DC/GC placements etc and then carry on as in my first mail. Regards Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 16:16 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question Thanks for the advice! Excuse my ignorance, but how do I upgrade the schema, while I’m installing the WIN2K3 server? Ditto for migrating FSMOs. Does it mean that I would have a 2K and 2K3 AD domain coexisting for a while until I remove 2K AD? When you said move DNS, WINS, DHCP, you meant Just installing them on the new server, right? Did you also have to migrate Exchange (from 2K to 2K3) by any chance? If so, in what sequence you did the upgrade? Thanks --Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I would, if budget allows, go the second route. Do the schema upgrade bring up new windows 2003 server. Migrate FSMO roles to it. Move DNS,WINS etc to the new server and then DCPROMO, one at time, your other servers out. Reinstall them with W2K3 and dcpromo them back in. Did this with a 700 user network with no downtime. Regards Peter Johnson P.S Look out for the article on migrating your DHCP database. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 15:26 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What’s the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
Just bring up a new 2k3 server, DCPromo it and it will do the rest as the first 2k3 DC. Once it is successfully promoted transfer all roles. Once you are sure everything is transferred and working correctly you can DCPromo to demote the old server wipe reinstall whatever. There is no coexistence other than working in Hybrid mode, and you can switch it to native once all of your 2K DCs are upgraded to 2K3. As to moving DNS, WINS, DHCP if your DC is serving all those functions then yes activate them on the new server, and make sure you have updated the required clients to point at the new server for those services. If those services are working on a separate stand-alone server then don't worry about them other than to make sure any static entries are updated. If you are planning to bring in Exchange 2k3 I believe it is best to get your 2k3 domain stable first. I don't think it is required though, but I'm not positive. Just like anything else though it is best to finish one project before starting the next that way you aren't caught trying to troubleshoot conflicting issues. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, AlexPosted At: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:16 AMPosted To: ActiveDirectoryConversation: [ActiveDir] AD Migration QuestionSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question Thanks for the advice! Excuse my ignorance, but how do I upgrade the schema, while I’m installing the WIN2K3 server? Ditto for migrating FSMOs. Does it mean that I would have a 2K and 2K3 AD domain coexisting for a while until I remove 2K AD? When you said move DNS, WINS, DHCP, you meant Just installing them on the new server, right? Did you also have to migrate Exchange (from 2K to 2K3) by any chance? If so, in what sequence you did the upgrade? Thanks --Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter JohnsonSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:43 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I would, if budget allows, go the second route. Do the schema upgrade bring up new windows 2003 server. Migrate FSMO roles to it. Move DNS,WINS etc to the new server and then DCPROMO, one at time, your other servers out. Reinstall them with W2K3 and dcpromo them back in. Did this with a 700 user network with no downtime. Regards Peter Johnson P.S Look out for the article on migrating your DHCP database. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, AlexSent: 10 October 2005 15:26To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What’s the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
Check out the upgrade docs at http://www.microsoft.com/ad and the readme that comes with your 2003 server media for more specifics. You won't coexist, you'll insert a 2K3 DC into your 2K domain/forest. As for DNS, DHCP, and WINS, the migration is a little different. DNS - If AD integrated, install on the new DC at installation. Let replicate. - if not AD integrated, then you'll have to replicate the zone to the new server. - recommended to ad-integrate if that works the domain you have. WINS - WINS replicates. Replicate it to the new instance. Change the client settings before sunsetting the old WINS replica. Be sure the clients have started using the new instance. DHCP - no replication :( you'll have to migrate it. There are tools to help, but it takes some time while you update the client settings. It's not overnight neccessarily. -ajm From: "Alborzfard, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:16:10 -0400 Thanks for the advice! Excuse my ignorance, but how do I upgrade the schema, while I'm installing the WIN2K3 server? Ditto for migrating FSMOs. Does it mean that I would have a 2K and 2K3 AD domain coexisting for a while until I remove 2K AD? When you said move DNS, WINS, DHCP, you meant Just installing them on the new server, right? Did you also have to migrate Exchange (from 2K to 2K3) by any chance? If so, in what sequence you did the upgrade? Thanks --Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I would, if budget allows, go the second route. Do the schema upgrade bring up new windows 2003 server. Migrate FSMO roles to it. Move DNS,WINS etc to the new server and then DCPROMO, one at time, your other servers out. Reinstall them with W2K3 and dcpromo them back in. Did this with a 700 user network with no downtime. Regards Peter Johnson P.S Look out for the article on migrating your DHCP database. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 15:26 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What's the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
I have also W2K DCs in other remote sites. Are there any gotchas with migrating them? None of them are GCs. Thanks --Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question Agreed, although you should be careful to note (and take appropriate actions for) any apps that utilize hard coded DNS server entries prior to sunsetting the original 2K DC. It's always been a best practice to stand up a new DC vs. upgrade in place. Not a hard and fast rule, but a best practice. If your DNS is integrated, and since WINS is replicable (word?) as well, then DHCP is the only animal left to contend with really. You'll want to pay some attention to how you approach that so that you work with the lease times, option settings, networks, etc. -ajm >From: "ActiveDirectory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >To: >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question >Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:44:10 -0500 > >My personal opinion is that you carry less crap over if you bring up a >new 2k3 DC (even if only temporarily). You can always reformat and >reuse the original server then move it back if you need to. > >Bob > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, >Alex >Posted At: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:26 AM >Posted To: ActiveDirectory >Conversation: AD Migration Question >Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question > > > > > > > >I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What's the best >option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 >DC server > >And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? > >By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more >DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or >can I use the existing ones? > > > >Thanks > > > >--Alex > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
Thanks for the advice! Excuse my ignorance, but how do I upgrade the schema, while I’m installing the WIN2K3 server? Ditto for migrating FSMOs. Does it mean that I would have a 2K and 2K3 AD domain coexisting for a while until I remove 2K AD? When you said move DNS, WINS, DHCP, you meant Just installing them on the new server, right? Did you also have to migrate Exchange (from 2K to 2K3) by any chance? If so, in what sequence you did the upgrade? Thanks --Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I would, if budget allows, go the second route. Do the schema upgrade bring up new windows 2003 server. Migrate FSMO roles to it. Move DNS,WINS etc to the new server and then DCPROMO, one at time, your other servers out. Reinstall them with W2K3 and dcpromo them back in. Did this with a 700 user network with no downtime. Regards Peter Johnson P.S Look out for the article on migrating your DHCP database. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 15:26 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What’s the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
Also check if you have hosts and lmhosts files, and static WINS entries if WINS is running on your DCs. We (different org) had issues once with static mappings and apps looking for a certain machine name, we brought up a new W2K DC, and then demoted DC1, rebuilt it with the same name, and dcpromo'd it. Did the same with DC2, then brought DCTemp down. Went very smoothly, and no in-place upgrades. --- Rich Milburn MCSE, Microsoft MVP - Directory Services Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development Applebee's International, Inc. 4551 W. 107th St Overland Park, KS 66207 913-967-2819 --- "I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it." - Pablo Picasso -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question Agreed, although you should be careful to note (and take appropriate actions for) any apps that utilize hard coded DNS server entries prior to sunsetting the original 2K DC. It's always been a best practice to stand up a new DC vs. upgrade in place. Not a hard and fast rule, but a best practice. If your DNS is integrated, and since WINS is replicable (word?) as well, then DHCP is the only animal left to contend with really. You'll want to pay some attention to how you approach that so that you work with the lease times, option settings, networks, etc. -ajm >From: "ActiveDirectory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >To: >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question >Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:44:10 -0500 > >My personal opinion is that you carry less crap over if you bring up a >new 2k3 DC (even if only temporarily). You can always reformat and >reuse the original server then move it back if you need to. > >Bob > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, >Alex >Posted At: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:26 AM >Posted To: ActiveDirectory >Conversation: AD Migration Question >Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question > > > > > > > >I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What's the best >option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 >DC server > >And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? > >By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more >DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or >can I use the existing ones? > > > >Thanks > > > >--Alex > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ ---APPLEBEE'S INTERNATIONAL, INC. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE--- PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message or any attachments. This information is strictly confidential and may be subject to attorney-client privilege. This message is intended only for the use of the named addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this in error, you should kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail and immediately destroy this message. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. Applebee's International, Inc. reserves the right to monitor and review the content of all messages sent to and from this e-mail address. Messages sent to or from this e-mail address may be stored on the Applebee's International, Inc. e-mail system. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
When we have inplaced upgraded SBS 2000's to SBS 2003's they leave behind a mixmass of permissions i.e. a blend of 2000 and 2003. Many in our gang really do not like inplaces at all. You don't get a comparable box to a clean 2003. You want nice, clean 2003 permission structure? You'll want to swing over those roles. ActiveDirectory wrote: My personal opinion is that you carry less crap over if you bring up a new 2k3 DC (even if only temporarily). You can always reformat and reuse the original server then move it back if you need to. Bob *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Alborzfard, Alex *Posted At:* Monday, October 10, 2005 8:26 AM *Posted To:* ActiveDirectory *Conversation:* AD Migration Question *Subject:* [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What’s the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
Agreed, although you should be careful to note (and take appropriate actions for) any apps that utilize hard coded DNS server entries prior to sunsetting the original 2K DC. It's always been a best practice to stand up a new DC vs. upgrade in place. Not a hard and fast rule, but a best practice. If your DNS is integrated, and since WINS is replicable (word?) as well, then DHCP is the only animal left to contend with really. You'll want to pay some attention to how you approach that so that you work with the lease times, option settings, networks, etc. -ajm From: "ActiveDirectory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:44:10 -0500 My personal opinion is that you carry less crap over if you bring up a new 2k3 DC (even if only temporarily). You can always reformat and reuse the original server then move it back if you need to. Bob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Posted At: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:26 AM Posted To: ActiveDirectory Conversation: AD Migration Question Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What's the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
I would, if budget allows, go the second route. Do the schema upgrade bring up new windows 2003 server. Migrate FSMO roles to it. Move DNS,WINS etc to the new server and then DCPROMO, one at time, your other servers out. Reinstall them with W2K3 and dcpromo them back in. Did this with a 700 user network with no downtime. Regards Peter Johnson P.S Look out for the article on migrating your DHCP database. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, Alex Sent: 10 October 2005 15:26 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What’s the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex
RE: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
My personal opinion is that you carry less crap over if you bring up a new 2k3 DC (even if only temporarily). You can always reformat and reuse the original server then move it back if you need to. Bob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard, AlexPosted At: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:26 AMPosted To: ActiveDirectoryConversation: AD Migration QuestionSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Migration Question I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What’s the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex
[ActiveDir] AD Migration Question
I have a W2K AD that I want to migrate to W2K3 AD. What’s the best option: In-place upgrade of the W2K DC or standing up a brand new W2K3 DC server And then upgrade the W2K DC to W2K3? By the way the W2K DC is also running DNS, DHCP, & WINS. I have one more DNS server. If I go the second route do I need to set up a DNS server or can I use the existing ones? Thanks --Alex
