Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[Mike Hammett]

I found someone else making real money, about $1k - $2k per month per location. 


Too bad they're out of stock for the foreseeable future. 




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From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 3:30:36 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium 


I thought it was just a bunch of bullshit. So people are getting real money out 
of it? 


Hrm. 

Any way to put a big antenna on it and really pull in some coverage? ;-) 




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To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: "Chuck McCown"  
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:04:45 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Helium 




Any of you doing the Helium network? Just had a friend stop by wanting some 
advice on antennas. He has a couple of hot spots up (900 omni) and he says he 
is making $3K/month. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[Jaime Solorza]

I don't do cryptocurrency...

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:57 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> device developers can subscribe to 'the peoples network' to access these
> devices to connect to the internet, I guess only I believe this is the only
> revenue source for the network, I suspect for every $1 in helium tokens
> given to the miners they only collected maybe 1/2 a cent, so it really
> feels like a ponzi scheme, I think all of the  earnings are inflated
> because crypto is climbing
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 1:31 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> I thought it was just a bunch of bullshit. So people are getting real
>> money out of it?
>>
>> Hrm.
>>
>> Any way to put a big antenna on it and really pull in some coverage?  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
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>>
>>
>> 
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>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" 
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:04:45 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT Helium
>>
>> Any of you doing the Helium network?  Just had a friend stop by wanting
>> some advice on antennas.  He has a couple of hot spots up (900 omni) and he
>> says he is making $3K/month.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[John Osmon]

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 02:59:54PM -0400, Adam Moffett wrote:
> What does the bed do that it needs WiFi?  Is it really just for the
> remote control?  Why would they not use a UHF or IR remote? Makes no
> sense.  Did they save $1.23 by using a general purpose single board
> computer with wifi?

The value of the personal information gleaned by the bed outweighs
the manufacturing costs of putting in WiFi.  By magnitudes.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[TJ Trout]

device developers can subscribe to 'the peoples network' to access these
devices to connect to the internet, I guess only I believe this is the only
revenue source for the network, I suspect for every $1 in helium tokens
given to the miners they only collected maybe 1/2 a cent, so it really
feels like a ponzi scheme, I think all of the  earnings are inflated
because crypto is climbing

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 1:31 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I thought it was just a bunch of bullshit. So people are getting real
> money out of it?
>
> Hrm.
>
> Any way to put a big antenna on it and really pull in some coverage?  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
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> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
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> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:04:45 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT Helium
>
> Any of you doing the Helium network?  Just had a friend stop by wanting
> some advice on antennas.  He has a couple of hot spots up (900 omni) and he
> says he is making $3K/month.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[Mike Hammett]

I thought it was just a bunch of bullshit. So people are getting real money out 
of it? 


Hrm. 

Any way to put a big antenna on it and really pull in some coverage? ;-) 




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Cc: "Chuck McCown"  
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:04:45 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Helium 




Any of you doing the Helium network? Just had a friend stop by wanting some 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[Bill Prince]

  
  
If you want to get revenue, polish up your youtube chops. Natalie
  Wynn is making somewhere around $500,000/year.
https://www.contrapoints.com/



bp

On 6/23/2021 1:18 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:


  
  We are looking at IOT stuff for our SCADA
projects...if we could create a revenue stream that would be
great...
  
  
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:15 PM
  Adam Moffett  wrote:


  
I'm trying to understand the same thing.  Who puts money
  in?

On 6/23/2021 4:01 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


  So basically it's a 915MHz IOT AP with
WiFi or 4G LTE repeater link to internet?? And you
earn revenue by buying one and installing it so others'
devices can connect to it? I assume they pay somebody
for service...???
  
  
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021,
  1:37 PM TJ Trout  wrote:


  $3k from a 27kbps hotspot... Wonder
what it will be when the market settles down ? And
if you can exchange that phony money for anything in
the real world
  
  
On Wed, Jun 23,
  2021, 12:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
  wrote:


  

  
Any of you doing the Helium network? 
  Just had a friend stop by wanting some
  advice on antennas.  He has a couple of
  hot spots up (900 omni) and he says he is
  making $3K/month.  
  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[David Coudron]

Looks to me like the Helium technology supports micro payments.  Low volume pay 
by use sort of thing it looks like.

David Coudron

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 3:14 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium


I'm trying to understand the same thing.  Who puts money in?
On 6/23/2021 4:01 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
So basically it's a 915MHz IOT AP with WiFi or 4G LTE repeater link to 
internet?? And you earn revenue by buying one and installing it so others' 
devices can connect to it? I assume they pay somebody for service...???

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 1:37 PM TJ Trout 
mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:
$3k from a 27kbps hotspot... Wonder what it will be when the market settles 
down ? And if you can exchange that phony money for anything in the real world

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 12:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
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advice on antennas.  He has a couple of hot spots up (900 omni) and he says he 
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[AFMUG] Anybody selling some ePMP GPS APs? 2.4 Ghz?

[Paul McCall]

Looking to buy about 10 of them used if I can get a good price.

Thanks!

Paul

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[Jaime Solorza]

We are looking at IOT stuff for our SCADA projects...if we could create a
revenue stream that would be great...

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:15 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I'm trying to understand the same thing.  Who puts money in?
> On 6/23/2021 4:01 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> So basically it's a 915MHz IOT AP with WiFi or 4G LTE repeater link to
> internet?? And you earn revenue by buying one and installing it so
> others' devices can connect to it? I assume they pay somebody for
> service...???
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 1:37 PM TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>> $3k from a 27kbps hotspot... Wonder what it will be when the market
>> settles down ? And if you can exchange that phony money for anything in the
>> real world
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 12:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any of you doing the Helium network?  Just had a friend stop by wanting
>>> some advice on antennas.  He has a couple of hot spots up (900 omni) and he
>>> says he is making $3K/month.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Karen told her what to do.

bp

On 6/23/2021 1:05 PM, Steve Jones
  wrote:


  
  
Small businesses tend to have their stuff in an
  unventilated closet because the noise bothers Pam. So lights
  are rarely noticed.
  Pam never tells anyone about the beeping
because "the computer stuff is always making noises"
  They call the ISP because we are the only ones
left who pick up the phone.l

  
  
  
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 7:08 AM
  can...@believewireless.net 
  wrote:


  
We get
  this all the time, especially since Covid. Their remote
  monitoring goes off so they call the ISP. 
Our first
  question is always, "Can you power cycle the CPE?" Answer
  is usually, "No one is onsite." 
  
  
  
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at
  4:15 AM Nate Burke 
  wrote:

2 cases this morning,
  Business customers calling that they have no 
  internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and
  multiple 
  pieces of gear are down in their racks
  (severs/switches,etc)  How can 
  you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are
  usually blinking 
  are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter
  than normal.  And 
  how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call the ISP
  because the 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Bill Prince]

  
  
You will be assimilated.


bp

On 6/23/2021 1:02 PM, James Howard
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
I think there are some beds that record
  your sleep behaviors and upload it to the hive so the
  collective knows all about how you’re sleeping as well as
  everything you say around your phone and your Alexa or google
  device.  Last time I was researching a new mattress I think I
  saw some that did anyway.
 
It’s always quite disturbing when you talk
  to someone about something kind of off the wall that you are
  thinking about looking for and then you open Facebook and it’s
  got a bunch of ads for that off the wall thing…..  maybe the
  bed listens to what the person says in their sleep to harvest
  marketing info.
 

  
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  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or
  something
  

 
What does the bed do that it needs WiFi?  Is it really just
  for the remote control?  Why would they not use a UHF or IR
  remote? Makes no sense.  Did they save $1.23 by using a
  general purpose single board computer with wifi?
I'm going to make a botnet out of adjustable beds and use it
  to mine bitcoins.  I'm betting the beds have surplus computing
  power.
 

  On 6/23/2021 2:42 PM, James Howard wrote:


  You expect someone with an internet
connected bed NOT to think a Mikrotik is inferior?
   
  

  From: AF 
On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:54 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or
something

  
   
  We had a call where the customers bed
wouldn't connect to our router.

The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was
inferior 
and that was the problem.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Your TV isn't connecting. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your phone isn't turning on. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung
Delivery System. 
> Please contact your ISP.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince  >
wrote:
>
> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to
walk ALL THE
> WAY
> to the equipment room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling
that they have no
> > internet. On both of them, it was a failed UPS
Unit, and multiple
> > pieces of gear are down in their racks
(severs/switches,etc) 
> How can
> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights
that are usually
> > blinking are not blinking? I'm guessing it's also
much quieter
> than
> > normal. And how is the first thought that 'I'm
going to call
> the ISP
> > because the internet isn't working' before even
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[Jaime Solorza]

We are getting some demo equipment from these cats.
https://www.monnit.com/applications/water-leak-detection/

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:01 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> So basically it's a 915MHz IOT AP with WiFi or 4G LTE repeater link to
> internet?? And you earn revenue by buying one and installing it so
> others' devices can connect to it? I assume they pay somebody for
> service...???
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 1:37 PM TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>> $3k from a 27kbps hotspot... Wonder what it will be when the market
>> settles down ? And if you can exchange that phony money for anything in the
>> real world
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 12:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any of you doing the Helium network?  Just had a friend stop by wanting
>>> some advice on antennas.  He has a couple of hot spots up (900 omni) and he
>>> says he is making $3K/month.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[Adam Moffett]

I'm trying to understand the same thing.  Who puts money in?

On 6/23/2021 4:01 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
So basically it's a 915MHz IOT AP with WiFi or 4G LTE repeater link to 
internet?? And you earn revenue by buying one and installing it so 
others' devices can connect to it? I assume they pay somebody for 
service...???


On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 1:37 PM TJ Trout > wrote:


$3k from a 27kbps hotspot... Wonder what it will be when the
market settles down ? And if you can exchange that phony money for
anything in the real world

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 12:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Nate Burke]

About every 3 or 4 weeks I just do a google search for purple mattress.  
that guarantees that I will only see Mattress ads for the next 3 weeks.  
I'm not even shopping for a mattress, but they don't know that.


On 6/23/2021 3:02 PM, James Howard wrote:


I think there are some beds that record your sleep behaviors and 
upload it to the hive so the collective knows all about how you’re 
sleeping as well as everything you say around your phone and your 
Alexa or google device.  Last time I was researching a new mattress I 
think I saw some that did anyway.


It’s always quite disturbing when you talk to someone about something 
kind of off the wall that you are thinking about looking for and then 
you open Facebook and it’s got a bunch of ads for that off the wall 
thing…..  maybe the bed listens to what the person says in their sleep 
to harvest marketing info.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:00 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

What does the bed do that it needs WiFi?  Is it really just for the 
remote control?  Why would they not use a UHF or IR remote? Makes no 
sense.  Did they save $1.23 by using a general purpose single board 
computer with wifi?


I'm going to make a botnet out of adjustable beds and use it to mine 
bitcoins.  I'm betting the beds have surplus computing power.


On 6/23/2021 2:42 PM, James Howard wrote:

You expect someone with an internet connected bed NOT to think a
Mikrotik is inferior?

*From:* AF 
 *On Behalf Of *Jay Weekley
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:54 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our router.
The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was inferior
and that was the problem.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Your TV isn't connecting. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your phone isn't turning on. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.
> Please contact your ISP.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
> > 
wrote:
>
> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
> WAY
> to the equipment room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> > internet. On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)
> How can
> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> > blinking are not blinking? I'm guessing it's also much quieter
> than
> > normal. And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
> the ISP
> > because the internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Steve Jones]

Small businesses tend to have their stuff in an unventilated closet because
the noise bothers Pam. So lights are rarely noticed.
Pam never tells anyone about the beeping because "the computer stuff is
always making noises"
They call the ISP because we are the only ones left who pick up the phone.l

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 7:08 AM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> We get this all the time, especially since Covid. Their remote monitoring
> goes off so they call the ISP.
> Our first question is always, "Can you power cycle the CPE?" Answer is
> usually, "No one is onsite."
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 4:15 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
>> internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
>> pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)  How can
>> you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually blinking
>> are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter than normal.  And
>> how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call the ISP because the
>> internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[James Howard]

I think there are some beds that record your sleep behaviors and upload it to 
the hive so the collective knows all about how you're sleeping as well as 
everything you say around your phone and your Alexa or google device.  Last 
time I was researching a new mattress I think I saw some that did anyway.

It's always quite disturbing when you talk to someone about something kind of 
off the wall that you are thinking about looking for and then you open Facebook 
and it's got a bunch of ads for that off the wall thing.  maybe the bed 
listens to what the person says in their sleep to harvest marketing info.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:00 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something


What does the bed do that it needs WiFi?  Is it really just for the remote 
control?  Why would they not use a UHF or IR remote? Makes no sense.  Did they 
save $1.23 by using a general purpose single board computer with wifi?

I'm going to make a botnet out of adjustable beds and use it to mine bitcoins.  
I'm betting the beds have surplus computing power.


On 6/23/2021 2:42 PM, James Howard wrote:
You expect someone with an internet connected bed NOT to think a Mikrotik is 
inferior?

From: AF  On Behalf Of 
Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:54 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our router.
The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was inferior
and that was the problem.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Your TV isn't connecting. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your phone isn't turning on. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.
> Please contact your ISP.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
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>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince 
> mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
> WAY
> to the equipment room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> > internet. On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)
> How can
> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> > blinking are not blinking? I'm guessing it's also much quieter
> than
> > normal. And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
> the ISP
> > because the internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[Jaime Solorza]

So basically it's a 915MHz IOT AP with WiFi or 4G LTE repeater link to
internet?? And you earn revenue by buying one and installing it so
others' devices can connect to it? I assume they pay somebody for
service...???

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 1:37 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> $3k from a 27kbps hotspot... Wonder what it will be when the market
> settles down ? And if you can exchange that phony money for anything in the
> real world
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 12:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
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>> says he is making $3K/month.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[TJ Trout]

$3k from a 27kbps hotspot... Wonder what it will be when the market settles
down ? And if you can exchange that phony money for anything in the real
world

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[AFMUG] STIR/SHAKEN non-tech

[Mike Hammett]

We have a consultant filing our mitigation plan (June 30 deadline) and are 
working with Metaswitch\TNS on the technical aspects (seems like we have until 
2022 to do that). 


>From some webinars I got the impression that we needed a variety of policy and 
>procedure changes to be compliant. Where is a good resource to figure those 
>out? 


Yes, I am working a variety of things in parallel in this project. 




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Back in the day of ham radio, we used to have a saying that we were going to 
"modulate the mattress".  It had two meanings.


-Original Message- 
From: Jay Weekley

Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 1:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

My unpublished remarks were to ask the customer to reboot the bed. If
that didn't work then upgrade the firmware.  If that didn't work then
send it back to Ubiquiti.

James Howard wrote:


You expect someone with an internet connected bed NOT to think a Mikrotik 
is inferior?


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Jay Weekley
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*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our router.
The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was inferior
and that was the problem.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Your TV isn't connecting. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your phone isn't turning on. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.
> Please contact your ISP.
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
> >  wrote:
>
> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
> WAY
> to the equipment room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> > internet. On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)
> How can
> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> > blinking are not blinking? I'm guessing it's also much quieter
> than
> > normal. And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
> the ISP
> > because the internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
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[AFMUG] OT Helium

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Jay Weekley]

Or Bluetooth?

Adam Moffett wrote:


What does the bed do that it needs WiFi?  Is it really just for the 
remote control?  Why would they not use a UHF or IR remote? Makes no 
sense.  Did they save $1.23 by using a general purpose single board 
computer with wifi?


I'm going to make a botnet out of adjustable beds and use it to mine 
bitcoins.  I'm betting the beds have surplus computing power.



On 6/23/2021 2:42 PM, James Howard wrote:


You expect someone with an internet connected bed NOT to think a 
Mikrotik is inferior?


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Jay Weekley
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:54 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our router.
The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was inferior
and that was the problem.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Your TV isn't connecting. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your phone isn't turning on. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.
> Please contact your ISP.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince 

> >  wrote:
>
> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
> WAY
> to the equipment room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> > internet. On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)
> How can
> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> > blinking are not blinking? I'm guessing it's also much quieter
> than
> > normal. And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
> the ISP
> > because the internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Jay Weekley]

My unpublished remarks were to ask the customer to reboot the bed. If 
that didn't work then upgrade the firmware.  If that didn't work then 
send it back to Ubiquiti.


James Howard wrote:


You expect someone with an internet connected bed NOT to think a 
Mikrotik is inferior?


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Jay Weekley
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:54 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our router.
The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was inferior
and that was the problem.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Your TV isn't connecting. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your phone isn't turning on. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.
> Please contact your ISP.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince 

> >  wrote:
>
> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
> WAY
> to the equipment room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> > internet. On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)
> How can
> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> > blinking are not blinking? I'm guessing it's also much quieter
> than
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> the ISP
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Adam Moffett]

What does the bed do that it needs WiFi?  Is it really just for the 
remote control?  Why would they not use a UHF or IR remote? Makes no 
sense.  Did they save $1.23 by using a general purpose single board 
computer with wifi?


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On 6/23/2021 2:42 PM, James Howard wrote:


You expect someone with an internet connected bed NOT to think a 
Mikrotik is inferior?


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Jay Weekley
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:54 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our router.
The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was inferior
and that was the problem.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Your TV isn't connecting. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your phone isn't turning on. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.
> Please contact your ISP.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince 

> >  wrote:
>
> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
> WAY
> to the equipment room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> > internet. On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)
> How can
> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> > blinking are not blinking? I'm guessing it's also much quieter
> than
> > normal. And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
> the ISP
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[James Howard]

You expect someone with an internet connected bed NOT to think a Mikrotik is 
inferior?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:54 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our router.
The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was inferior
and that was the problem.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Your TV isn't connecting. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your phone isn't turning on. Please contact your ISP.
>
> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.
> Please contact your ISP.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince 
> mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
> WAY
> to the equipment room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> > internet. On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)
> How can
> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> > blinking are not blinking? I'm guessing it's also much quieter
> than
> > normal. And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
> the ISP
> > because the internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[dave via AF]

To trouble shoot it..ASk "Is it Running?"
if answer is "yes" then say you better catch it :)


On 6/23/21 11:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Your TV isn't connecting.  Please contact your ISP.

Your phone isn't turning on.  Please contact your ISP.

Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.  
Please contact your ISP.


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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince > wrote:


Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
WAY
to the equipment room.


bp


On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc) 
How can
> you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> blinking are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter
than
> normal.  And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Probably had an antenna that stuck up in the middle of the
  mattress somewhere convenient.


bp

On 6/23/2021 10:24 AM, Mike Hammett
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  Did it have a quarter slot?


  
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From:
  "Jay Weekley" 
  To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:15:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or
  something
  
  It was one of those adjustable beds I think I think.
  
  Bill Prince wrote:
  > we had a customer with a "bed problem" too. It was quite
  a while ago 
  > and I don't remember the specifics, but i was: "Your bed
  is having 
  > connectivity issues?!?!"
  >
  >
  > bp
  > 
  >
  > On 6/23/2021 9:53 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
  >> We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't
  connect to our 
  >> router.  The beds customer support said that our
  Mikrotrik router was 
  >> inferior and that was the problem.
  >>
  >> Josh Luthman wrote:
  >>> Your TV isn't connecting.  Please contact your
  ISP.
  >>>
  >>> Your phone isn't turning on.  Please contact your
  ISP.
  >>>
  >>> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung
  Delivery System.  
  >>> Please contact your ISP.
  >>>
  >>> Josh Luthman
  >>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
  >>> 1100 Wayne St
  >>> Suite 1337
  >>> Troy, OH 45373
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince
  >> > wrote:
  >>>
  >>>     Because it's easier to get on the phone than
  it is to walk ALL THE
  >>>     WAY
  >>>     to the equipment room.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>     bp
  >>>     
  >>>
  >>>     On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
  >>>     > 2 cases this morning, Business customers
  calling that they 
  >>> have no
  >>>     > internet.  On both of them, it was a
  failed UPS Unit, and 
  >>> multiple
  >>>     > pieces of gear are down in their racks
  (severs/switches,etc) 
  >>>     How can
  >>>     > you not notice that all of the blinking
  lights that are usually
  >>>     > blinking are not blinking?  I'm guessing
  it's also much quieter
  >>>     than
  >>>     > normal.  And how is the first thought
  that 'I'm going to call
  >>>     the ISP
  >>>     > because the internet isn't working'
  before even checking 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Mike Hammett]

Did it have a quarter slot? 




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From: "Jay Weekley"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:15:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something 

It was one of those adjustable beds I think I think. 

Bill Prince wrote: 
> we had a customer with a "bed problem" too. It was quite a while ago 
> and I don't remember the specifics, but i was: "Your bed is having 
> connectivity issues?!?!" 
> 
> 
> bp 
>  
> 
> On 6/23/2021 9:53 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: 
>> We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our 
>> router. The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was 
>> inferior and that was the problem. 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman wrote: 
>>> Your TV isn't connecting. Please contact your ISP. 
>>> 
>>> Your phone isn't turning on. Please contact your ISP. 
>>> 
>>> Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System. 
>>> Please contact your ISP. 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince >> > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE 
>>> WAY 
>>> to the equipment room. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> bp 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote: 
>>> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they 
>>> have no 
>>> > internet. On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and 
>>> multiple 
>>> > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc) 
>>> How can 
>>> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually 
>>> > blinking are not blinking? I'm guessing it's also much quieter 
>>> than 
>>> > normal. And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call 
>>> the ISP 
>>> > because the internet isn't working' before even checking 
>>> anything. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Bill Prince]

Oh yeah. That was it. His bed was adjustable and had a remote control 
that operated over WiFi. The problem wasn't his internet, but an 
internal WiFi issue.



bp


On 6/23/2021 10:15 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

It was one of those adjustable beds I think I think.

Bill Prince wrote:
we had a customer with a "bed problem" too. It was quite a while ago 
and I don't remember the specifics, but i was: "Your bed is having 
connectivity issues?!?!"



bp


On 6/23/2021 9:53 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our 
router.  The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router 
was inferior and that was the problem.


Josh Luthman wrote:

Your TV isn't connecting.  Please contact your ISP.

Your phone isn't turning on.  Please contact your ISP.

Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.  
Please contact your ISP.


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince > wrote:


    Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
    WAY
    to the equipment room.


    bp
    

    On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
    > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they 
have no
    > internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and 
multiple
    > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc) 
    How can

    > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
    > blinking are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter
    than
    > normal.  And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
    the ISP
    > because the internet isn't working' before even checking 
anything.

    >

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Jay Weekley]

It was one of those adjustable beds I think I think.

Bill Prince wrote:
we had a customer with a "bed problem" too. It was quite a while ago 
and I don't remember the specifics, but i was: "Your bed is having 
connectivity issues?!?!"



bp


On 6/23/2021 9:53 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our 
router.  The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was 
inferior and that was the problem.


Josh Luthman wrote:

Your TV isn't connecting.  Please contact your ISP.

Your phone isn't turning on.  Please contact your ISP.

Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.  
Please contact your ISP.


Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince > wrote:


Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
WAY
to the equipment room.


bp


On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they 
have no
> internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and 
multiple
> pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc) 
How can

> you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> blinking are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter
than
> normal.  And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
the ISP
> because the internet isn't working' before even checking 
anything.

>

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Bill Prince]

we had a customer with a "bed problem" too. It was quite a while ago and 
I don't remember the specifics, but i was: "Your bed is having 
connectivity issues?!?!"



bp


On 6/23/2021 9:53 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our router.  
The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was inferior 
and that was the problem.


Josh Luthman wrote:

Your TV isn't connecting.  Please contact your ISP.

Your phone isn't turning on.  Please contact your ISP.

Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.  
Please contact your ISP.


Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince > wrote:


    Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
    WAY
    to the equipment room.


    bp
    

    On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
    > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
    > internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
    > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc) 
    How can

    > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
    > blinking are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter
    than
    > normal.  And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
    the ISP
    > because the internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Jay Weekley]

We had a call where the customers bed wouldn't connect to our router.  
The beds customer support said that our Mikrotrik router was inferior 
and that was the problem.


Josh Luthman wrote:

Your TV isn't connecting.  Please contact your ISP.

Your phone isn't turning on.  Please contact your ISP.

Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.  
Please contact your ISP.


Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince > wrote:


Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE
WAY
to the equipment room.


bp


On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc) 
How can

> you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> blinking are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter
than
> normal.  And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call
the ISP
> because the internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Josh Luthman]

Your TV isn't connecting.  Please contact your ISP.

Your phone isn't turning on.  Please contact your ISP.

Your refrigerator isn't connected to the Samsung Delivery System.  Please
contact your ISP.

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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE WAY
> to the equipment room.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> > internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> > pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)  How can
> > you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually
> > blinking are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter than
> > normal.  And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call the ISP
> > because the internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
> >
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[AFMUG] Cradlepoint cellular backup

[Adam Moffett]

A customer has a Cradlepoint with cellular backup in front of his actual 
firewall.  He believes the public IP lives on the firewall, but somehow 
the Cradlepoint is monitoring internet connectivity and will switch to 
cellular automatically.he believes it doesn't need a separate IP 
address to do this.


In this case we're doing DHCP with a reservation for a public IP.  
Anybody without a reservation is getting a private IP.  He initially 
plugged everything in and got a private IP, then we made the 
reservation, but then we saw two ARP entries for the same MAC address.  
One on the private IP and one on the public IP.  both were active, it 
wasn't like an expiring ARP entry.


Does cradlepoint monitor the DHCP transaction between us and the 
firewall and clone the WAN mac of the firewall?   Then what, use ARP to 
verify the gateway is up? I've never used these things, I'm just trying 
to understand how they work.





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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Bill Prince]

Because it's easier to get on the phone than it is to walk ALL THE WAY 
to the equipment room.



bp


On 6/22/2021 9:08 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no 
internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple 
pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)  How can 
you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually 
blinking are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter than 
normal.  And how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call the ISP 
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Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Cambium Force 300 on 147 ft. water tank

[Josh Luthman]

Oh nice of them to label it :)

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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 9:54 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Paseo Del Este Water Tank
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 7:35 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> What is Paseo deueste slave?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
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>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 9:09 AM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep...i rushed it
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:49 AM Jan-GAMs  wrote:
>>>
 I'm so dizzy
 On 6/21/21 6:15 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

 Enjoy..
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/gRBZD3cSrwJjUNED9

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300

[Jaime Solorza]

Yes

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 7:34 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Did you do TDD PTP?  You get extra power thanks to the rules.  I can't
> remember if the 300 has that off the top of my head, though.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 7:47 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> TDD worked great...thanks gents
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:50 AM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Against interference TDD hands down.  ePTP is better for throughput and
>>> it's not a fixed ratio in case traffic flows the other way.
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:46 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Muchas Garcías en minifaldas Esteban!!!

 On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 8:40 PM Steve Jones 
 wrote:

> I'm my experience TDD is more robust even without sync
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 4:54 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Which is better against interference? TDD or eptp?
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Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Cambium Force 300 on 147 ft. water tank

[Jaime Solorza]

Paseo Del Este Water Tank

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 7:35 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> What is Paseo deueste slave?
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 9:09 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Yep...i rushed it
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:49 AM Jan-GAMs  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm so dizzy
>>> On 6/21/21 6:15 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> Enjoy..
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/gRBZD3cSrwJjUNED9
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Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Cambium Force 300 on 147 ft. water tank

[Josh Luthman]

What is Paseo deueste slave?

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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 9:09 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Yep...i rushed it
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:49 AM Jan-GAMs  wrote:
>
>> I'm so dizzy
>> On 6/21/21 6:15 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Enjoy..
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/gRBZD3cSrwJjUNED9
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300

[Josh Luthman]

Did you do TDD PTP?  You get extra power thanks to the rules.  I can't
remember if the 300 has that off the top of my head, though.

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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 7:47 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> TDD worked great...thanks gents
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:50 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Against interference TDD hands down.  ePTP is better for throughput and
>> it's not a fixed ratio in case traffic flows the other way.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:46 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Muchas Garcías en minifaldas Esteban!!!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 8:40 PM Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm my experience TDD is more robust even without sync

 On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 4:54 PM Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

> Which is better against interference? TDD or eptp?
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Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Cambium Force 300 on 147 ft. water tank

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep...i rushed it

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:49 AM Jan-GAMs  wrote:

> I'm so dizzy
> On 6/21/21 6:15 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Enjoy..
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[can...@believewireless.net]

We get this all the time, especially since Covid. Their remote monitoring
goes off so they call the ISP.
Our first question is always, "Can you power cycle the CPE?" Answer is
usually, "No one is onsite."

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 4:15 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> 2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no
> internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple
> pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)  How can
> you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually blinking
> are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter than normal.  And
> how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call the ISP because the
> internet isn't working' before even checking anything.
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300

[Jaime Solorza]

TDD worked great...thanks gents

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 2:50 AM Josh Luthman 
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> Against interference TDD hands down.  ePTP is better for throughput and
> it's not a fixed ratio in case traffic flows the other way.
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> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:46 PM Jaime Solorza 
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>> Muchas Garcías en minifaldas Esteban!!!
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 8:40 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm my experience TDD is more robust even without sync
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 4:54 PM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Which is better against interference? TDD or eptp?
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300

[Josh Luthman]

Against interference TDD hands down.  ePTP is better for throughput and
it's not a fixed ratio in case traffic flows the other way.

Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:46 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Muchas Garcías en minifaldas Esteban!!!
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 8:40 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm my experience TDD is more robust even without sync
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 4:54 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Which is better against interference? TDD or eptp?
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Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Cambium Force 300 on 147 ft. water tank

[Jan-GAMs]

I'm so dizzy

On 6/21/21 6:15 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Enjoy..
https://photos.app.goo.gl/gRBZD3cSrwJjUNED9 



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[AFMUG] OT: Is it a full moon or something

[Nate Burke]

2 cases this morning, Business customers calling that they have no 
internet.  On both of them, it was a failed UPS Unit, and multiple 
pieces of gear are down in their racks (severs/switches,etc)  How can 
you not notice that all of the blinking lights that are usually blinking 
are not blinking?  I'm guessing it's also much quieter than normal.  And 
how is the first thought that 'I'm going to call the ISP because the 
internet isn't working' before even checking anything.


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