Re: [AFMUG] AI tools

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I'm working on a Twilio + chatbot for after hours tech support but it is a lot 
of dead ends.
The chat bots are mostly dumb but can follow a script.

If I ever get it figured out, I plan to release it to the community.

Jim Bouse
Owner
Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
j...@brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 6:26 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] AI tools

Anybody here use AI on a daily basis, like for research or creative purposes?

I'm an AI naysayer, but this looks awfully attractive.  There's a free tier, or 
unlock the full capability and almost unlimited queries for $20/mo.  I'm not 
sure I could do a decent eval on it though.

https://www.howtogeek.com/perplexity-is-the-only-paid-ai-chatbot-you-need-heres-why/
https://www.perplexity.ai/pro

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Re: [AFMUG] Pot

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Just like you cant operate heavy equipment while impaired, you cant use pot.
If they can manage to "not be impaired", then the water gets murky.

Note: I am in TX where it is still illegal so my opinion is likely not valid.

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Owner
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-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2024 11:41 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] Pot

If an employee has a prescription for pot for anxiety do we have to allow them 
to partake at work.

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Re: [AFMUG] Nice call

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Offer to match.
$25/mo is $25/mo that you wouldn’t otherwise make.

Jim Bouse
Owner
Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 4:24 PM
To: Josh Luthman ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users 
Group 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nice call

How you gonna fight $25/month for 1G?

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com

From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 3:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nice call

They made money for 2 years and you made negative money with your depreciating 
ONT.  Better now that he's back but damn that's a lot of lost revenue :/

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 5:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
Just had a call from a former customer.  He was wanting to come back.  He went 
with an Xfinity $25/month deal.  This was 2 years ago.  The deal expired and 
now he wants to come back.  We left the ONT and are ready to simply turn him 
back on.  Nice to win one back like that.  Especially against those guys.

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Re: [AFMUG] RedHawk-P250i-Solid-Oxide-Fuel-Cells-GEN4-WEB.pdf

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Any ideas on pricing?

Jim Bouse
Owner
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979-999-7000
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 10:17 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: [AFMUG] RedHawk-P250i-Solid-Oxide-Fuel-Cells-GEN4-WEB.pdf


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Re: [AFMUG] Solar

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Not bad. Where did you order from?

Thanks,
Jim



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 Original message 
From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Date: 7/31/23 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] Solar

Just bought a pallet of new 490 watt panels for 40 cents per watt.

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Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We got setup as a CLEC to remove all confusion.  If you are planning on being 
in the fiber business, quit messing around and do it right.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Larry Smith
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:03 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; syssup 

Subject: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW


Question for those more in tune than I.

We are working (attempting) with our local electric company for access to their 
ROW for some of our fiber and they have stated that the rights granted ISP's 
under Title II (telecommunications provider) in 2015 was reversed in 2017 and 
then in 2018 ISP's were put back as "information" services removing any Title 
II rights and reverting them to Title I only.  Escentially they are saying we 
have to be a LEC or CLEC to get access.

  Anyone have a good answer for this ??

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Re: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

That varies greatly.  Somewhere between $6-8/ft here in central Texas rural 
roads and rural subdivisions.  Anywhere with more obstructions will cost 
significantly more due to the effort to avoid other utilities.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 9:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] HDD per foot cost


What is the going rate per foot for HDD drilling and pullback of two SDR11 
ducts and a trace wire?  Very sandy soil in the FL panhandle.  All materials 
provided?  Around 4-5K' split into three or four runs.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT pie

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Puh Con


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From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2022 3:31 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT pie

Puh Can
Puh Con
Pee Can
Pee Con

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Re: [AFMUG] Chicago Colo\Connectivity

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Mike,

Can you give me a call about what this would entail?
979-999-7000

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 10:16 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Chicago Colo\Connectivity

We're looking to bring on some connectivity and colo customers in Chicago. You 
can locate some servers in a legendary data center (Equinix at 350 E. Cermak) 
or pick up connectivity. We've got Cogent as well as a connection to an IX that 
gets you connectivity to Akamai, Amazon, Cloudflare, Facebook, Google, 
Microsoft, Netflix, Oath\Yahoo, Riot Games, Salesforce, etc. There's also 
connectivity to Indianapolis.

We can also manage that connectivity for you if you want the benefits of good 
connectivity without needing to learn additional skills.



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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Re: [AFMUG] Renting a Rodder

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Do you have a water hose nearby?

Water flowing through the pipe could carry a string/parachute down the way.
You'd have to find a way to secure the water hose to the conduit but you can 
probably figure that out.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2022 3:45 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Renting a Rodder

I have a 700' and 800' empty, but water filled, 1.25"duct I need to get fiber 
through (No pull line).  My Rodder is only 600'  Is there anyplace that would 
rent a 1000' rodder for a couple days?  We tried to shop vac it out, but just 
not enough pull to get the water out over that distance.  Are there other 
methods I haven't thought of yet?  I only have home/shop sized air compressors, 
I'd have to go rent a scroll compressor to try to blow it.

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Re: [AFMUG] crazy bandwidth request

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Hey, someone else is paying for your new 10G pipe.
I have one of these whales.  They wanted 2Gbps to a remote location that they 
use for offsite backup.
We got a 5Gbps connection to our cabinet out front and we are running FTTH from 
there.

We are getting paid to extend our network.  I can’t complain.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Zach Underwood
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 9:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crazy bandwidth request

Here is the vendor they are using https://www.rhombus.com/cameras/ all of the 
wired poe. Unfortunately I am just an engineer and upper management said we 
will support it. I mean we are getting 10gb EPL back to the datacenter in a 
carrier hotel so we have the bandwidth but it feels so wrong to set this up.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 9:56 AM Nate Burke 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
8.2 TB/Day storage.  What cloud camera company are they using.  Or are they 
just putting in all NEST cameras.  I'm guessing next you'll say that they're 
all going to all be WIFI Cameras, and they have provisioned a single Linksys 
WIFI Router in the center of the property that will run them all just fine.
On 8/12/2022 8:43 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
Send the quote.  Hope for the best.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
Zach Underwood
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 8:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] crazy bandwidth request

I need to just say this as it is among the more crazy requests. I got a request 
for internet access at one of MDU site from the sites's cam vendor. Yeah fill 
out our form and it turns out they have selected a cloud only based system. 
They will have 124 x 5mp cams going in each will live steam 24x7 6.3mbps for a 
total of just under 800mbps of upload.

This is not a good use for the "cloud" 

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Re: [AFMUG] crazy bandwidth request

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Send the quote.  Hope for the best.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Zach Underwood
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 8:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] crazy bandwidth request

I need to just say this as it is among the more crazy requests. I got a request 
for internet access at one of MDU site from the sites's cam vendor. Yeah fill 
out our form and it turns out they have selected a cloud only based system. 
They will have 124 x 5mp cams going in each will live steam 24x7 6.3mbps for a 
total of just under 800mbps of upload.

This is not a good use for the "cloud" 

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Re: [AFMUG] sip provider

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We have used Flowroute.com for years with no problems (outside of them being 
DDOSd a few months back).

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 4:55 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] sip provider

Tired of my sip provider.  Moved our whole operation to a new backbone with my 
own C blocks of IP.  Sip provider says my asterisk office system is not working 
because of high latency.  40mS.  Cogent.  Xmission in Salt Lake City.  They 
have always been a pain to work with anyhow.

We have a ubiquity phone on the way to try out.  But I like asterisk and aastra 
phones.

Any suggestions?  Ready to port if the price is right...


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Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

If you are a CLEC you do have power of eminent domain condemnation but I don’t 
thing the FCC classification carries any water when it comes to that.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 7:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

Ever since the FCC defined ISPs as quasi public utilities, I have wondered if 
we could claim eminent domain in cases like that.  Be interested to see if it 
has ever been attempted.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 4, 2022, at 6:15 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:

Spend a little time at the courthouse and look for those easements they may (or 
may not) have.
The language in the easement will tell you if you can attach.

Some of the power company easements around here include “communication cables”. 
 Most are more restrictive to only include “utility owned communication cables” 
where “utility” is the referenced power company.  The less restrictive version 
is a bit of a grey area but if you are spunky you could go for it (if they 
allow you to attach).

It’s all fun and games until you someone gets angry about an easement incursion 
and drags you to court.

Make sure you are staying in your legal “lane” so to speak.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 12:37 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

Yes, it sounds as though they do.  I had hoped when we became a CLEC I wouldn't 
have to mess with this sort of thing, but evidently that is not the case.

On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 12:33 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:
Do they have easements for every property?

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 12:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:Af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

A utility company I am dealing with is claiming that they now stake their poles 
a minimum of 1ft off of the ROW, therefore I have to pull easements for every 
property that the poles pass.  Has anyone come across anything like this 
before?  They just started doing this a couple of years ago, as I had 
previously deployed on their poles without having to get separate easements for 
every property.
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Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Spend a little time at the courthouse and look for those easements they may (or 
may not) have.
The language in the easement will tell you if you can attach.

Some of the power company easements around here include “communication cables”. 
 Most are more restrictive to only include “utility owned communication cables” 
where “utility” is the referenced power company.  The less restrictive version 
is a bit of a grey area but if you are spunky you could go for it (if they 
allow you to attach).

It’s all fun and games until you someone gets angry about an easement incursion 
and drags you to court.

Make sure you are staying in your legal “lane” so to speak.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com<http://www.brazoswifi.com/>

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 12:37 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

Yes, it sounds as though they do.  I had hoped when we became a CLEC I wouldn't 
have to mess with this sort of thing, but evidently that is not the case.

On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 12:33 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:
Do they have easements for every property?

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 12:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:Af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

A utility company I am dealing with is claiming that they now stake their poles 
a minimum of 1ft off of the ROW, therefore I have to pull easements for every 
property that the poles pass.  Has anyone come across anything like this 
before?  They just started doing this a couple of years ago, as I had 
previously deployed on their poles without having to get separate easements for 
every property.
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Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Do they have easements for every property?

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 12:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Location

A utility company I am dealing with is claiming that they now stake their poles 
a minimum of 1ft off of the ROW, therefore I have to pull easements for every 
property that the poles pass.  Has anyone come across anything like this 
before?  They just started doing this a couple of years ago, as I had 
previously deployed on their poles without having to get separate easements for 
every property.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT FB

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Started for me this morning.

Jim



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From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Date: 4/29/22 12:22 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT FB

So, I discovered this morning that I have to have my adblocker off to see FB 
posts...
Is this for everyone?

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Re: [AFMUG] Customer payment demands

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I ignore all these requests.
When the internet turns off automatically due to non-payment, magically it gets 
paid.

The margins on internet aren't thick enough to babysit anyone.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:11 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Customer payment demands

We seen to have more and more business customers who are outsourcing their bill 
payments, but then that vendor puts more work on us.

Exampe#1, A payment vendor must give us a new 1 time use credit card every 
month.  They will NOT log into our portal do do this, they MUST talk to someone 
to give the card to.

Example#2, A payment vendor will not take mail/email delivery of the invoice, 
they MUST be sent through their bill payment vendors portal.  
(And they want us to attend a webinar to find out how to get this
opportunity)

I can't believe that Any Comcast/AT/ElectricCompany/Insert large utility 
here, would do any extra work on their part to get paid, so how are these 
services actually working?

Of course, we won't mention the customers who can't see the 17 different spots 
on the bill that say to send payments to our Lockbox, but find the
1 small return mailing address of our office, and will send their payments 
there every month.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

The phones will pickup the Bluetooth beacon and relay the phone's gps to the 
tracking service.
Basically a GPS by proxy on behalf of the tracking token.

It relies on random folks wandering by and the Bluetooth token snagging enough 
"air time" to report home.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:45 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags

Being lazy and not wanting to do the research.
How do the air tags work.  In other words, how do they get connectivity to the 
world.  Most of the stuff I have read talks about blue tooth but that isnt 
worth anything over distance.

I rent out some construction equipment and I am thinking of putting them on the 
equipment.  But I need a better understanding.
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Re: [AFMUG] Never seen this before

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We are in a town with a lot of military activity.
Any time the jets fly by, our DFS goes crazy.

Things will be stable for months and then chaos for 15 minutes. After the jets 
are gone, things are stable again.

Jim



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 Original message 
From: Jaime Solorza 
Date: 10/21/21 6:22 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Never seen this before

So i installed one AP and three remote Ubiquti radios for small SCADA system in 
Fort Hancock, Texas a few months ago.
Used a DFS channel to avoid all the noise from three wireless ISPs in area.  No 
issues until yesterday when all three remote sites lost connection.   Lasted 
about 15 minutes and everything came back fine...this morning same thing...i 
was in Tornillo so close enough for me to drive to Fort Hancock quickly...told 
them not to touch anything or reboot AP.
When i got there links had been up for a few minuteslogged in and was 
watching all sites...
Then boom, AP lost connection with radios ..saw this DFS Radar message on 
dashboardhad never seen one...nearest airport is small one in Fabens...
Then i asked if they had seen any Border Patrol trucks nearby...they said , yes 
by water ...marked and unmarked ...the latter has a telescoping system with 
long range thermal cameras and other goodies .
I switched to 5160 MHz with 10MHz wide channel and monitored it for severa 
hours...no issues...
Has anyone see this before?

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Re: [AFMUG] amazon problem

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

How many customers do you have behind 1 public IP?

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 3:39 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] amazon problem


It does not appear so, the dashboard indicates the router is in bridge mode, we 
are not "natting".

The problem with Amazon Prime is effecting one customer with their "Fire" toys 
that we know about.  A couple other customers with "Roku" devices say they are 
not having issues with their "Prime".  It's really looking like Amazon is being 
a "Dick" by picking on one or some of our customers.  Our corporate office has 
informed me that they have "opened a ticket" with Amazon to get this corrected. 
 We're a small wisp that is owned by a larger fiber outfit, we'll soon 
disappear as the fiber-build gets here.  If our dissatisfied customers go to a 
competitor, then they won't automatically get our fiber when available so this 
arbitrary Amazon Dickiness will effect our bottomline.
On 9/16/21 00:27, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
One way they detect a proxy is by looking at number of people behind one IP.  
Are you natting your customers?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 12:39 AM Jan-GAMs 
mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>> wrote:
Yes, except we aren't using a VPN or a proxy that I know about.

On 9/15/21 18:22, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Yeah, I have heard about this.  VPNs using what is considered regular
> residential IPs are poisoning the well for everyone.  Amazon and other
> streamers are just using the big hammer rather than finesse to shut
> them down.  Actually they will never be able to totally shut them down.
>
> -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 5:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] amazon problem
>
> We're a small wisp and some of our customers just started to complain
> about their Amazon Prime.
>
> Anyone having trouble with amazon complaining about your ISP? I've got
> customers telling me they can't connect to their amazon prime anymore.
> This message shows up: "Your device is connected to the Internet using a
> VPN or proxy service.  Please disable it and try again.  For more help,
> go to amazon.com/pv-vpn."  Of course that is even 
> more useless.
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] Diesel Truck Options

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Bucket trucks can spend a LOT of time idling. Check that before you just look 
at the miles.

We have a truck with 200k but the engine is only 1yr old because the old engine 
died from oil starvation at idle.



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 Original message 
From: Jason McKemie 
Date: 9/13/21 7:06 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Diesel Truck Options

I'm looking at a couple bucket trucks, a bit over 10 years old. One is a Nissan 
UD truck with around 40k miles, the other is a GMC 5500 with about 198k miles. 
They both look to be in decent shape for their age. The Nissan is a bit of a 
strange layout with a cab-over kind of setup, but otherwise seems like a decent 
deal. They are around the same price. Does anyone have experience with either 
of these?
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Re: [AFMUG] affordable splicer

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

No issues at all.  We are not careful with them and they consistently do good 
work.

We have one with almost 2000 splices on it.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 1:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] affordable splicer

i was actually looking at that one. I didnt figure a sub 1k splicer would be 
any good. Any issues with it?

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:58 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:
We have 5 of these: 
https://www.amazon.com/YEDEMC-Automatic-Intelligent-Optical-Splicing/dp/B07V353SJ7/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1=fusion+splicer=1631037354=8-1-spons=1=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFGRUs5VE1LOURCM1AmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTEwMzE3NzIzNEg2UzdSNTkyM1hCJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwNzYzNDMzRjRVODJZR1dQQzVCJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

They are cheap enough that they go in every truck.

Buy a better cleaver.  The splicing is easy if the cleaves are good.
https://www.techtoolsupply.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=INNO-V7P=googleps=Cj0KCQjwm9yJBhDTARIsABKIcGakFTCK6mQ24nnzLApab29qL8ivAjjWVrnPWzr3FsuHB4mQhdIs5N4aAm2mEALw_wcB
That’s not a bad cleaver.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com<http://www.brazoswifi.com/>

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 12:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] affordable splicer

what are some decent models that arent 5k+ for a guy with bad eyes that never 
remembers to go get his glasses from the doctors office?

I havent done enough splicing to know what im looking for
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Re: [AFMUG] affordable splicer

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We have 5 of these: 
https://www.amazon.com/YEDEMC-Automatic-Intelligent-Optical-Splicing/dp/B07V353SJ7/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1=fusion+splicer=1631037354=8-1-spons=1=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFGRUs5VE1LOURCM1AmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTEwMzE3NzIzNEg2UzdSNTkyM1hCJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwNzYzNDMzRjRVODJZR1dQQzVCJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

They are cheap enough that they go in every truck.

Buy a better cleaver.  The splicing is easy if the cleaves are good.
https://www.techtoolsupply.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=INNO-V7P=googleps=Cj0KCQjwm9yJBhDTARIsABKIcGakFTCK6mQ24nnzLApab29qL8ivAjjWVrnPWzr3FsuHB4mQhdIs5N4aAm2mEALw_wcB
That’s not a bad cleaver.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 12:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] affordable splicer

what are some decent models that arent 5k+ for a guy with bad eyes that never 
remembers to go get his glasses from the doctors office?

I havent done enough splicing to know what im looking for
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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone With Sonar v2 Happy?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I think it speaks volumes.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Timothy Steele
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 5:04 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone With Sonar v2 Happy?

2 days 0 comments on here or your Facebook post that's not saying much



On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 10:21 PM Mike Hammett 
mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
We are looking for any Sonar v2 customers that are happy. If so, are you a 
veteran ISP, or are you new to the table?


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Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Be careful about PCI compliance.

I’d rather go with someone who tokenizes the card and stores it for you.

We use Stripe.com for our processor with UISP.
Zero PCI liability on our side.  We never store the card.  For that matter, the 
actual numbers never even pass through our servers.  Directly to stripe and we 
get the token sent to us.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 4:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing

Pretty sure we are gonna give it a go with plat.  Worked fine for me years ago.
Sent from my iPhone


On May 6, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Jesse DuPont  wrote:
 We are current Plat customer (in one WISP, using Emerald in another - they're 
both quite capable). In the Plat WISP, we're billing 6400 subs using the free 
MSSQL license. No issues.


Jesse DuPont

Owner / Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
Celerity Networks LLC / Celerity Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc

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On 5/6/21 10:50 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Our Plat install uses the Free MS SQL license.  It has some kind of limit on 
processor power or some such, but if Plat ever hit the limit I couldn't tell.

.I don't know if MS still has a free version though.  Our Plat install is 
OLD.




On 5/6/2021 11:54 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
I’m pretty sure even a few years ago when I migrated from Plat to Sonar, that 
Plat had fixed that internally with an update.
But Chuck could verify that with them.

And yes, you will need to host it yourself, unless there is a third party, or 
they have a recommended hosting third party.
I forget if they had that service or not, but you could ask them about that too.

Otherwise I think it does need at least a VM with windows and some form of MS 
SQL license…

From: AF  On Behalf Of 
Cameron Crum
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing

I'd be careful of Plat if you want PCI compliance. In the systems I've seen 
even within the last few months, they are still storing credit cards in plain 
text in the DB.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:40 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
Do I have to host Plat?

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:05 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing

I think Platypus is still free up to a certain number of active customers.


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 8:56 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing

We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us is that 
they don’t approve of our “products”.  AKA internet service and that they are 
happy for us to be a QB customer...

So, gonna get a stand alone billing system and just do a monthly journal entry 
to move over the revenue.

Something cheap with the ability for the customer to pay with cards.  Anything 
free out there that makes their money from the merchant percentage?  I guess I 
don’t care if it is free, just the lowest overall cost to the company.

Was platypus free?  Used it for years at another company.  I don’t need any 
management of my network just simple recurring billing.

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Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Self hosted UISP checks your boxes.
It even has a QB online plugin that copies over revenue and invoices.

Its decent for free.



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 Original message 
From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Date: 5/6/21 9:57 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing

We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us is that 
they don’t approve of our “products”.  AKA internet service and that they are 
happy for us to be a QB customer...

So, gonna get a stand alone billing system and just do a monthly journal entry 
to move over the revenue.

Something cheap with the ability for the customer to pay with cards.  Anything 
free out there that makes their money from the merchant percentage?  I guess I 
don’t care if it is free, just the lowest overall cost to the company.

Was platypus free?  Used it for years at another company.  I don’t need any 
management of my network just simple recurring billing.
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Re: [AFMUG] WISPAMERICA COVID

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I know of one guy who had the J vaccine who has now tested positive.  He did 
fly into Dallas with a few hundred of his closest friends in a big metal tube.
Not to alarm anyone.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPAMERICA COVID

The vast majority of those that I spoke with at the show were either partially 
or fully vaccinated.   

Mark

> On May 5, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm just curious more than anything... did any of you that went to 
> WISPAMERICA catch COVID?
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Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cable Attachment

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

14AWG solid core wire.  Lasts for decades.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 2:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Tower Cable Attachment

I have been using T UV resistant Ty-Raps for attaching to towers, but have 
noticed them getting a bit brittle in some locations. What are you guys using 
for this purpose?  I have considered going with some Sitepro1 cushions / 
hangers:

https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list=2057

Seems like a bit overkill though. Thoughts?
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

e people stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian
>  > jackboots to get people to "conform".   The kool aid is running
> out and
>  > we'll start to see more and more states start going the way of Texas.
>  >
>  > Disclaimer:  It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should take
>  > precautions to protect themselves.
>  >
>  >
> 
>  > *From: *"Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com%0b>> <mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>>
>  > *To: *"af"  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com%20%3cmailto:af@af.afmug.com>>>,
>  "Josh
> Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com%0b>> 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
>  > *Sent: *Monday, April 5, 2021 7:19:59 PM
>  > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>  >
>  > Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of
> April 4th).
>  >
>  > Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.
>  >
>  > That's practically non-existent.
>  >
>  > Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their
> life.
>  >
>  > Jim Bouse
>  > Owner - Brazos WiFi
>  > 979-985-5912
>  > http://www.brazoswifi.com
>  >
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com%0b>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>  > Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
>  > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com%0b>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Josh Luthman
>  >  <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com%20%3cmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>
>  > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>  >
>  > Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.
>  >
>  > Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.
>  >
>  > My County has about 34 new cases per day.
>  >
>  > On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>  >  > Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure
> seems
>  >  > like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.
>  >  >
>  >  > Josh Luthman
>  >  > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>  >  > Direct: 937-552-2343
>  >  > 1100 Wayne St
>  >  > Suite 1337
>  >  > Troy, OH 45373
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes
>  >  > mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net%0b>> 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>  >  > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net%0b>> 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  > Same here
>  >  >
>  >  > Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.
>  >  >
>  >  > On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>  >  >  > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics
> and lax
>  >  > attitude
>  >  >  > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
>  >  > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com%0b>> 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com%0b>> 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
>  >  >  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com%0b>> 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>  >  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com%0b>> 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>> wrote:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Josh Luthman
>  >  >  > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>  >  >  > Direct: 937-552-2343
>  >  >  > 1100 Wayne St
>  >  >  > Suite 1337
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th).

Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.  

That's practically non-existent.

Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their life.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
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-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.

Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.

My County has about 34 new cases per day.

On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems 
> like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Same here
> 
> Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.
> 
> On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>  > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
> attitude
>  > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
>  >
>  > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>  >  >> wrote:
>  >
>  >      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>  >
>  >     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
>  >
>  >     Josh Luthman
>  >     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>  >     Direct: 937-552-2343
>  >     1100 Wayne St
>  >     Suite 1337
>  >     Troy, OH 45373
>  >
>  >
>  >     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
> mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>  >     >> wrote:
>  >
>  >         I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
>  >         I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was
> a hoot.
>  >         But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
>  >         this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
>  >         some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in
> her hand.
>  >         But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>  >         Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>  >         *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>  >         *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
>  >         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>  >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>  >         We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>  >         We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
>  >         travel before June 1st, unless something major
> changed. So
>  >         we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting
> for was
>  >         for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
>  >         now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to
> where
>  >         I was more comfortable in attending.
>  >         As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to
> go as
>  >         both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
>  >         before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
>  >         really possible to get everything together that quickly to
>  >         attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
>  >         would have to put on hold which can't really be put on
> hold at
>  >         this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
>  >         Assuming everything continues trending in the right
> direction,
>  >         we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think
> August that
>  >         we're planning on attending.
>  >         On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave
> mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
>  >
>  >             Im waiting for vegas show
>  >
>  >
>  >             On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>  >>             Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know
> I'll be
>  >>             there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
>  >>             Josh Luthman
>  >>             24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>  >>             Direct: 937-552-2343
>  >>             1100 Wayne St
>  >>             Suite 1337
>  >>             Troy, OH 45373
>  >>             On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
>  >>             mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:
>  >>
>  >>                 Sam,
>  >>
>  >>                 I'll be there.  I think turn-out 

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

In most states, if you want a covid shot, you will have it by the show.
The single shot effectiveness is 70-80% depending on which study you read.

So, lets break it down: Very few people are infected with covid in Texas.  Most 
people who want a shot will have their first shot by the show, yielding them 
70-80% immune to a disease that very few people would be ill with.
Your likelihood of encountering the covid virus is very low and most people's 
immunity will already be in place yielding a very low risk threshold.

I'm be more concerned with the drive to the airport than picking up covid from 
the conference.

Now, of course it makes sense to be careful but the paranoia has got to stop at 
some point.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 8:00 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

That answer would be totally ignoring the question.   Texas isn't a mask 
requirement state and what numbers they are reporting might not have any 
relationship to the actual state of the disease at the time of the conference.  
Wear a mask, maintain distance, don't eat indoors or go to bars.   Don't touch 
your face with your hands unless you have disinfected your hands.   Remember 
how well they prepared for an ice storm for their citizens.  Remember that 
their representatives get out of town when there are problems in town.


On 4/1/21 5:46 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
> Don't lick the doorknobs.  You'll be fine.
>
> Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the show 
> rolls around.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?
>
> Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>>
>> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
>> before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make
>> any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
>> settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to 
>> reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>>
>> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both 
>> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the 
>> show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
>> everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some
>> internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't
>> really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss
>> this one.
>>
>> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll
>> be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're
>> planning on attending.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave > <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
>>
>>  Im waiting for vegas show
>>
>>
>>  On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>  Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
>>>  there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
>>>
>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>  Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>  1100 Wayne St
>>>  Suite 1337
>>>  Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White >>  <mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Sam,
>>>
>>>  I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all
>>>  things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance
>>>  levels than what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020
>>>  before it was canceled.
>>>
>>>  WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper
>>>  dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep
>>>  dives like the old and much cherished Animal Farm shows).
>>>  Turn-out is always smaller because there are less
>>>  business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>>>
>>>  Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a
>>>  very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows
>>>  (and I'm not just saying that).
&

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Don't lick the doorknobs.  You'll be fine.

Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the show rolls 
around.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?

Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>
> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel 
> before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make 
> any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to 
> settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to 
> reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>
> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both 
> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the 
> show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
> everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some 
> internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't 
> really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss 
> this one.
>
> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll 
> be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're 
> planning on attending.
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  > wrote:
>
> Im waiting for vegas show
>
>
> On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
>> there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White > > wrote:
>>
>> Sam,
>>
>> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all
>> things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance
>> levels than what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020
>> before it was canceled.
>>
>> WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper
>> dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep
>> dives like the old and much cherished Animal Farm shows). 
>> Turn-out is always smaller because there are less
>> business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>>
>> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a
>> very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows
>> (and I'm not just saying that).
>>
>> photograph   
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder
>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>> direct:+1 (702) 470-2766
>>
>>> Sam Lambie 
>>> March 30, 2021 at 14:00
>>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there
>>> will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
>>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is
>>> this any more informative and better organized or??
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] good inexpensive OTDR

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I really don’t know.  We have only used the cheap china one.
Truthfully, we need it 3 or 4 times a year.  It’s worth the price to just have 
it in the toolbox at $1k.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Dev
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 6:56 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] good inexpensive OTDR

Is it better to get a new Chinese unit, or used JDSU, EXFO, Anritsu or similar? 
Are there any used models that are good quality and still would work well that 
someone can recommend?


On Mar 10, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:

We have a $1000 one from china. It works well enough.

We have located every fault we ever needed to find with it.

Jim



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Date: 3/10/21 6:14 PM (GMT-06:00)
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Subject: [AFMUG] good inexpensive OTDR

I’m seeing prices for about $7600, seems like a lot. I’m guessing you can get a 
cheap Chinese one somewhere, but are they workable or flaming piles of junk?
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Re: [AFMUG] good inexpensive OTDR

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We have a $1000 one from china. It works well enough.

We have located every fault we ever needed to find with it.

Jim



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Date: 3/10/21 6:14 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: AF@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] good inexpensive OTDR

I’m seeing prices for about $7600, seems like a lot. I’m guessing you can get a 
cheap Chinese one somewhere, but are they workable or flaming piles of junk?
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Re: [AFMUG] PowerBeam upgrade?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Aviat only sells direct.  Contact Ken Ruppel 
mailto:ken.rup...@aviatnet.com>>
He can go over it with you.  Super nice guy.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Jan Van Kort
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:49 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PowerBeam upgrade?


So that would be a yes it does experience rain fade?  It rains here and heavy 
misting at least 6 months out of the year.

I'm not finding that model on google, Mouser elect. seems to be an Aviat 
dealer, not finding this model there, so I wouldn't know what freq this model 
supports.  Is it even produced anymore?

I don't understand why manufacturers don't compress the signal more to get 
higher bandwidth.  Using tighter filters they should be able to get a 100x more 
data throughput than they do.  1 Mhz appears to be worth 1 bit.  Why aren't 
they using 100hz for 1bit?  Tighter filter, vast increase in throughput, no 
more competition from cable/fiber.

just saying, the manufacturers designers should pull their heads out of their 
bosses butts and improve the designs they have instead of reaching for higher 
bands which only function under rare conditions!
On 3/10/21 7:28 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Everything above 7ghz experiences rain fade.  No vendor can fix that.
On 3/10/2021 10:25 AM, Jan Van Kort wrote:

Does this unit experience rain fade/fog issues?
On 3/10/21 7:15 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
AF5X-HD or AF11X if you want to stay in the UBNT ecosystem.
Personally, I'd do 11X because the channel widths needed for backhaul are 
better used in PTMP 5ghz.  11X will get you 500-600mbps at that distance.
If you need more speed, I'd look at Aviat 11Ghz.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com<http://www.brazoswifi.com/>

From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
Jan Van Kort
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:04 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] PowerBeam upgrade?


We're using PowerBeam 5AC ISO for our links between towers.  Is there a higher 
capacity choice available yet?  Our longest links are about 6-7 miles.

GAMs
On 3/9/21 7:34 PM, James Howard wrote:
My 3 year old who's wearing it doesn't need to worry about that.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 8:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower take down

That would be a good one of you were asking fbi to look into felonies with 
potential domestic terror undertones (as low as that bar is set right now)

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 7:47 PM James Howard 
mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Are you referring to a red version of a hat like this?



From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On 
Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 6:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower take down

not a joke, but if you can get an image of any of those involved in a 
particular red hat, FBI may actually take it up.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 6:22 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
guido sarduci. he will ensue recompense.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 5:13 PM Jan Van Kort 
mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>> wrote:

It was more than 10 years on that property, the company has changed hands 4 
times since I built it(the tower). We're now a utility company and provide 
electric and telecom to a large portion of the county. Two owners back the 
operators were real dicks and stole all the good stuff.  We bought it (the 
wireless company) back and upgraded the service with new stuff and more 
bandwidth.

But just the same, FCC stickers on telecom equipment always say it's a felony.  
Just wondering if anyone has ever had to file a complaint?  And who to?

GAMs
On 3/9/21 2:37 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
I think that if you're talking about the power allocated through stickers, the 
battle is already lost.

Who owned the tower? Was it clear in the contract? As in that case they should 
have no permission to make any changes to it. Was it fenced in or otherwise had 
real access control?


On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 3:51 PM Jan-GAMs 
mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>> wrote:
Hey, we had a tower agreement that included a 60 day notice.  We found
the tower offline on our monitor system and went to investigate.
Someone had taken the guts out of the controller and threw them into the
weeds in the rain and had started removing the tower.  It was a 3 legged
ham-radio tower 34ft model.  The property owner had sent a weirdly
worded email just hours before about having her crew rehabilitate our
tower.  How successful are the warning stickers about tampering with
telecommunications being a felony?  Has anyone ever enforced that?

GAMS


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Re: [AFMUG] PowerBeam upgrade?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

BUT! A properly engineered link will have minimal disruptions (or none at all).
Contact 
https://www.comsearch.com/services/frequency-coordination-fcc-licensing/microwave/
 to discuss your options.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com<http://www.brazoswifi.com/>

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PowerBeam upgrade?


Everything above 7ghz experiences rain fade.  No vendor can fix that.
On 3/10/2021 10:25 AM, Jan Van Kort wrote:

Does this unit experience rain fade/fog issues?
On 3/10/21 7:15 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
AF5X-HD or AF11X if you want to stay in the UBNT ecosystem.
Personally, I'd do 11X because the channel widths needed for backhaul are 
better used in PTMP 5ghz.  11X will get you 500-600mbps at that distance.
If you need more speed, I'd look at Aviat 11Ghz.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com<http://www.brazoswifi.com/>

From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of 
Jan Van Kort
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:04 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] PowerBeam upgrade?


We're using PowerBeam 5AC ISO for our links between towers.  Is there a higher 
capacity choice available yet?  Our longest links are about 6-7 miles.

GAMs
On 3/9/21 7:34 PM, James Howard wrote:
My 3 year old who's wearing it doesn't need to worry about that.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 8:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower take down

That would be a good one of you were asking fbi to look into felonies with 
potential domestic terror undertones (as low as that bar is set right now)

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 7:47 PM James Howard 
mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Are you referring to a red version of a hat like this?



From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On 
Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 6:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower take down

not a joke, but if you can get an image of any of those involved in a 
particular red hat, FBI may actually take it up.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 6:22 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
guido sarduci. he will ensue recompense.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 5:13 PM Jan Van Kort 
mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>> wrote:

It was more than 10 years on that property, the company has changed hands 4 
times since I built it(the tower). We're now a utility company and provide 
electric and telecom to a large portion of the county. Two owners back the 
operators were real dicks and stole all the good stuff.  We bought it (the 
wireless company) back and upgraded the service with new stuff and more 
bandwidth.

But just the same, FCC stickers on telecom equipment always say it's a felony.  
Just wondering if anyone has ever had to file a complaint?  And who to?

GAMs
On 3/9/21 2:37 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
I think that if you're talking about the power allocated through stickers, the 
battle is already lost.

Who owned the tower? Was it clear in the contract? As in that case they should 
have no permission to make any changes to it. Was it fenced in or otherwise had 
real access control?


On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 3:51 PM Jan-GAMs 
mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>> wrote:
Hey, we had a tower agreement that included a 60 day notice.  We found
the tower offline on our monitor system and went to investigate.
Someone had taken the guts out of the controller and threw them into the
weeds in the rain and had started removing the tower.  It was a 3 legged
ham-radio tower 34ft model.  The property owner had sent a weirdly
worded email just hours before about having her crew rehabilitate our
tower.  How successful are the warning stickers about tampering with
telecommunications being a felony?  Has anyone ever enforced that?

GAMS


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Re: [AFMUG] PowerBeam upgrade?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

AF5X-HD or AF11X if you want to stay in the UBNT ecosystem.
Personally, I'd do 11X because the channel widths needed for backhaul are 
better used in PTMP 5ghz.  11X will get you 500-600mbps at that distance.
If you need more speed, I'd look at Aviat 11Ghz.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jan Van Kort
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:04 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] PowerBeam upgrade?


We're using PowerBeam 5AC ISO for our links between towers.  Is there a higher 
capacity choice available yet?  Our longest links are about 6-7 miles.

GAMs
On 3/9/21 7:34 PM, James Howard wrote:
My 3 year old who's wearing it doesn't need to worry about that.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 8:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower take down

That would be a good one of you were asking fbi to look into felonies with 
potential domestic terror undertones (as low as that bar is set right now)

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 7:47 PM James Howard 
mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Are you referring to a red version of a hat like this?



From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 6:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower take down

not a joke, but if you can get an image of any of those involved in a 
particular red hat, FBI may actually take it up.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 6:22 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
guido sarduci. he will ensue recompense.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 5:13 PM Jan Van Kort 
mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>> wrote:

It was more than 10 years on that property, the company has changed hands 4 
times since I built it(the tower). We're now a utility company and provide 
electric and telecom to a large portion of the county. Two owners back the 
operators were real dicks and stole all the good stuff.  We bought it (the 
wireless company) back and upgraded the service with new stuff and more 
bandwidth.

But just the same, FCC stickers on telecom equipment always say it's a felony.  
Just wondering if anyone has ever had to file a complaint?  And who to?

GAMs
On 3/9/21 2:37 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
I think that if you're talking about the power allocated through stickers, the 
battle is already lost.

Who owned the tower? Was it clear in the contract? As in that case they should 
have no permission to make any changes to it. Was it fenced in or otherwise had 
real access control?


On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 3:51 PM Jan-GAMs 
mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>> wrote:
Hey, we had a tower agreement that included a 60 day notice.  We found
the tower offline on our monitor system and went to investigate.
Someone had taken the guts out of the controller and threw them into the
weeds in the rain and had started removing the tower.  It was a 3 legged
ham-radio tower 34ft model.  The property owner had sent a weirdly
worded email just hours before about having her crew rehabilitate our
tower.  How successful are the warning stickers about tampering with
telecommunications being a felony?  Has anyone ever enforced that?

GAMS


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Re: [AFMUG] ping

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

pong

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From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 6:45 PM
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Re: [AFMUG] 10G FTTH access switch / CRS326-24S+2Q+RM

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Not that I have seen but our 1G circuits are lightly used.  Almost everything 
is 10G interfaces now.
10G traffic destined for 1G interfaces could be an issue if the traffic load is 
greater than 1G. 

We haven't seen this though.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:52 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G FTTH access switch / CRS326-24S+2Q+RM

> The 326 is a solid switch. 
  Any issues when mixing 1G and 10G optics? I recall reading about buffering 
issues, slow speeds and packet loss.


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Re: [AFMUG] 10G FTTH access switch / CRS326-24S+2Q+RM

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

The 326 is a solid switch.
The UBNT XG-16 is good too if you dont need to do QinQ vlan.





Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT 5G Evolution capable smartphone



 Original message 
From: fiber...@mail.com
Date: 2/8/21 6:43 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 10G FTTH access switch / CRS326-24S+2Q+RM

What do you guys use for 10G FTTH access switches?

Does anybody use the Mikrotik CRS326-24S+2Q+RM?

I'm a bit hesitant to use Mikrotik products as of late, with all the problems 
they have been having.

Recommendations, anti-recommendations, experiences good or bad welcome.


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Re: [AFMUG] Adobe Notice

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Sounds like spam. I'd treat it as such.



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT 5G Evolution capable smartphone



 Original message 
From: Jason McKemie 
Date: 1/28/21 4:54 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Adobe Notice

I've gotten a couple of emails from Adobe about Non-Genuine software on my 
network. What do you guys typically do with this stuff? Just forward it to the 
user who's IP address they're giving me?
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: gamestop

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

That’s the gist of it.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: gamestop

Can someone break this down for me to a window licker level of dumb?

If i understand it, hedgefund operators banked on the price going down, so shit 
posters rallied together to drive it up, and on friday the hedgefund operators 
are forced to purchase at the inflated price? Is this the gist?
Now government is trying to step in to protect the hedgefunds from the 
shitposters?

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Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Proxomox is opensource and free if you don’t want the enterprise repo.
Although, I do pay for the licenses on mine.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 4:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives

wow, 20% VAT?

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:48 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:
Proxmox has both of these featues.   Plus with a ceph backend storage migration 
should become less of an issue as you effectively mirror drives across cluster 
nodes.



On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 2:33 PM Steven Kenney 
mailto:st...@wavedirect.org>> wrote:
HA only.. no live migrations.  No live storage migrations.  Last I checked it 
didn't support it.

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From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
To: "af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 12:40:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives

Like?



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From: "Steven Kenney" mailto:st...@wavedirect.org>>
To: "af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 11:39:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives
You can use it for 10 servers.  But it still won't do certain things that 
make managing all of them easy.

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From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
To: "af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 11:53:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vmware/veeam alternatives

Strange.
Friends of mine have used Proxmox in installations where there were many, many 
racks full of servers.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I agree. 
I brought this up at a fire department meeting and they acted as if I had 
proposed removing all lights.

I was just pointing out that at some point, it becomes dangerous to bystanders.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:06 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

Am I the only one who thinks that the new LED's that all the emergency vehicles 
have now are dangerous?  I was about 1/2 mile behind an ambulance and the 
flashing LED's were so bright in front of me that I could barely make out the 
traffic light I was stopped at.  And why does the ambulance need to have 
approximately 200,000 LED Fixtures on it?  I get it, I see you, I can't not see 
you, now I can't see anything else.  
They saw an open piece of sheet metal and were like, 'We could put another 
strobe there'  It's even worse when there are multiple vehicles together at an 
accident scene.  I understand having them bright during the day, but they are 
just blinding at night.  It's like they need to have a day/night mode. Who do I 
write a strongly worded letter to expressing my displeasure?

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Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We don't charge a retainer fee, just hourly for someone to stand there and plug 
things in for them. 

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:08 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

So they get 2 hr per month, or you charge them base 2hr every month then actual 
time on top of that?

On 11/23/2020 11:07 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
> We charge our base labor rate with a 2 hr minimum. $60/hr x 2.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-999-7000
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> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:03 AM
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing
>
> Anybody do 'Remote hands' Services?  Just a body that will go to a location 
> and follow directions.  I've had a request for it and I have no idea what to 
> charge.  How do Datacenters price it, base Monthly price + time?
>
> Is it like  $400/month service or a $20/month service?  Seems like anything 
> that will be less than the cost of them buying a plane ticket should be worth 
> it to them.
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Re: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We charge our base labor rate with a 2 hr minimum. $60/hr x 2.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:03 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Remote Hands Pricing

Anybody do 'Remote hands' Services?  Just a body that will go to a location and 
follow directions.  I've had a request for it and I have no idea what to 
charge.  How do Datacenters price it, base Monthly price + time?

Is it like  $400/month service or a $20/month service?  Seems like anything 
that will be less than the cost of them buying a plane ticket should be worth 
it to them.

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Re: [AFMUG] Unifi UAP AC pro

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Make sure “Uplink Connectivity Monitor” is turned off.
I believe if it can’t connect to the controller, it turns off the WiFi.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:10 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Unifi UAP AC pro

Hey gentsfriend installed one at a daycare... configured it with UniFi on 
his laptop..good signal and speeds...he turns off laptop and leaves...next day 
it stops working reconnects laptop and reboots itit works againdoes 
he need to reset it, install UniFi on one of clients PCs or is there a setting 
to make it but require the controller..
Thanks
Jaime
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Re: [AFMUG] Design consideration

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We had a similar situation, but shorter route at 25 miles.
I chose to use 10G BiDi optics on each strand.  In the future, we can upgrade 
to 40G BiDi easily.

DC has 2 strands leaving.
1st strand stops at hop 1.  2nd strand continues on.
2nd strand stops at hop 2.  1st strand continues on.
1st strand stops at hop 3. 2nd strand continues on.
Etc…

By alternating breaks in the strands, we theoretically prevent a 
equipment/power failure along the line from taking down the whole line.
We did this for pennies compared to what DWDM cost.

As an added benefit, we can upgrade one segment at a time to faster 
optics/switches without taking down the whole thing.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 7:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Design consideration

As per my other post, we will be connecting via DWDM to a DC in Miami.

On the way from Vero Beach, we have a spot in Ft. Pierce, (14 miles away) and 
then West Palm (60 miles from Ft. Pierce) and then on to a Miami DC (65 miles 
from West Palm).

In Ft. Pierce, I could see ourselves making use of the connectivity to our main 
NOC (breaking out BW and transit services there) but West Palm is not so much 
in our vision.  I definitely have to re-gen in West Palm and Ft. Pierce was 
optional but allows me to keep somewhat universal spares for all location AND 
the Colo’s at both the Ft. Pierce and West Palm location were dirt cheap.

Of course, the reasons to get the DC in Miami are the obvious ones ($$ for BW 
and access to the IX etc.)

The question is Option A…do I pull the BW for West Palm and Ft. Pierce directly 
from the Miami DC to maximize BW and transit efficiency, or Option B…do I pull 
that from the Vero Beach (main NOC) side to get to Ft. Pierce and West Palm.  
With Option B, I need more channels from Vero to the DC to get more BW for use 
at each regen/  colo spot.  Option B gives us a more direct extension of our 
main network to Ft. Pierce and West Palm.

I am leaning towards pulling Ft. Pierce directly from Vero since I see a 
potential extension of our WAN more in the near term and then pulling West Palm 
directly from the DC.

These are new considerations for me, so I wanted to query the crowd for 
opinions / suggestions

Paul 

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
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Re: [AFMUG] HDD TCO

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Dirt and Clay.  Very little gravel.  No rock.

Jim Bouse
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HDD TCO

You must be drilling dirt.  We are lucky to get 100’ some days when we are in 
cobble.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 22, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:

Rough number for 2 men, 1 vermeer 20x22 drill, 1 mini-x, 2 trucks, 2 trailers, 
and 1 hydrovac is about $50k a month (including materials).

My guys produce about 800ft a day of conduit and vaults on 4x10 work weeks.

This yields roughly 12000ft a month which breaks down to about $4/ft.

Once equipment is paid off, the cost is closer to $1.50-2/ft.

This is in rural subdivisions where we have to drill 100%. When we catch a 
break and can use the plow, we can knock out thousands of feet daily.

Replies to AMFUG go to a folder. If you have questions, make sure you CC my 
email address.

Jim

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT 5G Evolution capable smartphone



 Original message 
From: Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
Date: 10/22/20 6:50 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] HDD TCO

Has anyone calculated their TCO on an HDD machine?  After figuring in
the operator, maintenance, tooling/bits, etc what do you end up spending
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Re: [AFMUG] HDD TCO

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Rough number for 2 men, 1 vermeer 20x22 drill, 1 mini-x, 2 trucks, 2 trailers, 
and 1 hydrovac is about $50k a month (including materials).

My guys produce about 800ft a day of conduit and vaults on 4x10 work weeks.

This yields roughly 12000ft a month which breaks down to about $4/ft.

Once equipment is paid off, the cost is closer to $1.50-2/ft.

This is in rural subdivisions where we have to drill 100%. When we catch a 
break and can use the plow, we can knock out thousands of feet daily.

Replies to AMFUG go to a folder. If you have questions, make sure you CC my 
email address.

Jim

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 Original message 
From: Adam Moffett 
Date: 10/22/20 6:50 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] HDD TCO

Has anyone calculated their TCO on an HDD machine?  After figuring in
the operator, maintenance, tooling/bits, etc what do you end up spending
on this?



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Re: [AFMUG] Backup Solutions

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I built a "airgap" solution.

Our backups run Sunday morning at 1AM.
Sunday morning at 12:30AM, our mikrotik router enables the 10G port going to 
the backup hard-drive array.
Sunday night at 11:55PM, the mikrotik router disables the 10G port going to the 
backup hard-drive array.

This way, the backups are "offline" except for Sunday.  

My rationale is that we are most likely to click on a ransomware link/email 
during the week.  So long as we don't do it Sunday during the "backup period", 
things should be gravy.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 3:05 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Backup Solutions

Hearing more and more about all the ransom-ware attacks, what is the best 
method these days to do pc/server backups.  Just backing up to a remote storage 
disk isn't enough anymore, since as long as it's connectable from the machine, 
it can get locked too.  I only have a couple Standalone ESXi servers, and a 
handful of physical machines. 
Probably <10tb max across everything.  One of the cloud providers like 
Backblaze would be the simplest, start the software and just let it run.  Is 
there a local NAS that would do something similar without breaking the bank, or 
taking hours to configure?  Just curios what the new 'best practice' backup 
policy is.

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Re: [AFMUG] 1GBps link option

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

GigaBeam from UBNT
AF60-LR from UBNT (will be back on store.ui.com soon)
Mikrotik 60ghz PTP.

All of those are sub $500 for something approaching 1G.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2020 10:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] 1GBps link option

A church wants a wireless link to push 1GBps over a street...
Any ideas? Siklu is out of their budget.
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Re: [AFMUG] Air Conditioned Cabinets

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

How big of a cabinet do you need?

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 3:10 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Air Conditioned Cabinets

Looking for leads on an Outdoor Cabinet with AC.  I was working with TSR 
Comsupply, but they've gone radio silent on me this week. Doesn't have to be 
new.  My problem is I only have a single 20A/120vac circuit for the cabinet, so 
the AC size really matters. Doesn't have to keep it chilled, just below 100 
degrees.

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Re: [AFMUG] Virtual machines

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I just rolled out CEPH in a new cluster and it is great!
I’m stoked about essentially a “RAID” array of servers.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 7:38 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual machines

CEPH kind of fills the void where you don't need a dedicated, shared storage 
box.


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From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 7:34:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual machines

If you're going to have multiple physical VM hosts then fast shared storage is 
very helpful.  When you want to reboot a physical machine for OS upgrade and 
the VM's are on shared storage then you can migrate them off that box in a few 
seconds.   Do your maintenance, reboot, migrate VM's back.  No downtime.
On 9/27/2020 11:43 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Thanks guys. Proxmox didn't even come up in my searches. I'll look into it. If 
anyone really knows the space and wouldn't mind spending 15 minutes discussing 
what we need I would appreciate it.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 10:21 AM Bill Prince 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

VMs are a great way to go depending on the job(s) you need to do. As it happens 
a lot of jobs (e.g. DNS) are not particularly compute intensive, so it's a 
great way to stretch resources. We find we can run 3 or 4 virtual machines on 
each physical machine.

We used VMware from the get-go, but did not get many of the paid-for bells and 
whistles. VMware can become pretty expensive, where other solutions (e.g. 
Proxmox) has an advantage because of open source.

The other consideration is containers, which can be thought of as VM-lite. 
Containers provide almost all of the advantages of VMs with a significantly 
lighter load on the hardware. As a result, you can load up more applications on 
less hardware. The leading contender in the container space is Kubernetes and 
it's also open source.

Pick your poison with someone you know who can go over your requirements.



bp


On 9/27/2020 7:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
I have decided I needed to get on the VM train. I know, I am only 15 years 
behind. Honestly, till now I haven't had a compelling reason.

I want something that will at least do some monitoring of VM's, backups, 
snapshots, etc. Managed upgrading would be great but not as big a priority for 
me (at least I don't think so).

Since I don't know what I don't know, I am asking the experienced crowd.

It seems the two real choices are VMWare and Zen. Are there others? Commercial 
support seems nice, is it worth paying for? What I will run is important for 
sure.

I spent a few hours last night and I more confused now than when I started.




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Re: [AFMUG] Virtual machines

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I'm a big fan of proxmox.
It works well and the price is right (free).

Jim



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 Original message 
From: Lewis Bergman 
Date: 9/27/20 9:28 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Virtual machines

I have decided I needed to get on the VM train. I know, I am only 15 years 
behind. Honestly, till now I haven't had a compelling reason.

I want something that will at least do some monitoring of VM's, backups, 
snapshots, etc. Managed upgrading would be great but not as big a priority for 
me (at least I don't think so).

Since I don't know what I don't know, I am asking the experienced crowd.

It seems the two real choices are VMWare and Zen. Are there others? Commercial 
support seems nice, is it worth paying for? What I will run is important for 
sure.

I spent a few hours last night and I more confused now than when I started.


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Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We use a program called NetSetMan.  It’s inexpensive for commercial use.

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Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 10:25 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] a basic question

I feel silly asking this but I honestly don’t know if there is a better way.
Willing to risk the embarrassment of a simple answer.

Frequently plugging a laptop into a management port or something.  192.168.1.1  
So I need to set the laptop IP manually to 192.168.1.11 or some such thing.
Then I find I immediately need to connect to some DHCP device and right back to 
the management port.  And then to perhaps check email I need to go to a 
10.x.x.x or a 172 subnet internally.

Once upon a time I wrote some scripts and associated them with icons to 
reconfig the ethernet IPV4 settings to various things I need to access from 
time to time.
Is there a better way where I will never have to change configs?
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Re: [AFMUG] Tesla competitor Kandi

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Anyone know if this is “cheap china knockoff” quality or something decent?

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Tesla competitor Kandi

This is going to be interesting

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/kandi-technologies-stock-announcing-us-car-launch-tesla-competitor-electric-2020-7-1029451976#


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Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I haven’t found a nice alternative.  So we are moving INTO Vetro because of 
this.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation

Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use for this? Vetro fibermap 
has a nice integrated system, I just can't justify their monthly price.
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: I want my money back

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

As a Faultologist, I can confirm those mounts are faulty!

Jim Bouse
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 4:38 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: I want my money back

Faulty faulty faulty
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Re: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We cover everything up to their router at no cost to the customer.  Acts of God 
are our responsibility.


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From: AF  On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 10:34 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Lightning/Grid Damage to Gear

Hey guys,

We typically perform free service calls when we find defective gear with no 
signs of damage.

When we see lightning damage with black ethernet connectors or other signs of 
physical damage, we always bill labor and hardware and sometimes credit back a 
portion of it but never all of it.

Many customers think that their monthly bill should cover acts of God like 
lightning and power surges but I don't believe that at all. If there's a power 
surge, the power utility won't pay to replace your appliances and electronics. 
Paying your Verizon bill doesn't get them to replace your phone if it dies.

Why do customers think we will come out and work for free and give them free 
hardware?

What do you guys do just so I know I'm not being crazy by billing for damage 
that we didn't cause?

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Re: [AFMUG] wiring up an battery shunt

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

What are you trying to achieve?  You can monitor 1-80v on V1-V4 ports.  Do you 
need more than 80v?

Jim Bouse
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 2:29 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] wiring up an battery shunt

Hey Guys
quick question I have  tpdin-monitor-web2 and looking to wire up battery shunt 
my question is how do I wire this up? I have an battery bank do I connect the 
wire shunt to the neg side of the battery or positive side of battery then have 
wire going to the tpdin monitor or what?



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

ETA?

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From: AF  On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess via AF
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:18 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Dennis Burgess 
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out


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Re: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We give 1 warning.  Second time.  Banned for 1 month.
If they sign back up and get a second, banned for 1 year.

I haven't had to do a permanent ban yet.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 6:29 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] customers with repeat DDoS attacks

Has anyone come up with a successful strategy for customers who manage to 
provoke repeated DDoS attacks against them, other than to disconnect their 
service?

I've got one who just got their 3rd strike after 2 previous warnings.

In 20 years in this business, I've only had this happen once previously.  That 
customer begged and pleaded and said it wouldn't happen again, he needed 
Internet for his business, he said it was his son's fault and he would ban his 
son from using the Internet.  So I turned him back on and of course it happened 
again.

Given the pandemic, I'd like to think there is something I could do, like 
require a detailed explanation of what happened (I assume one of his gamer kids 
keeps talking smack and getting booted), and how he has dealt with the 
situation.  But given my limited previous experience, I expect that would just 
be gullible on my part, like Charlie Brown and the football.
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Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD long distance usage

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I have a 6 mile regular AF24.  It does 550Mbps…. Until it rains.  Then it drops 
pretty quickly.

Jim Bouse
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD long distance usage

I'm trying to determine if I am a nut for even considering a 6 mile link with 
airfiber 24 HD. We need up 400mbps FDX. Airlink says that we will get 1.5gig at 
that distance. We will have a second link up as a rollover with greatly reduced 
bandwidth to cover rain fade. Has anyone done a link this long with 24HD? 
Licensed is out of the question for the time being as is 5ghz. So... trying to 
think outside of the box.
Suggestions welcome.

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Re: [AFMUG] Aviat vs Cambium 820c

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We put up an 80Ghz Aviat and it IS a nice radio.
Time will tell if it REMAINS a nice radio.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 8:02 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat vs Cambium 820c

Voice in the back of my head says that sounds like me back when I bought 
Trango, and again when I bought Exalt G2.  But Aviat does appear to have a nice 
radio.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jason McKemie
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat vs Cambium 820c

I'm not even sure why anyone is still buying 820C radios with the pricing that 
Aviat is running.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, Kurt Fankhauser 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Looking at the specs it appears Aviat is a better radio. 4096 quam vs 2048 
quam. (1.4gbps vs 1.2gbps) SFP+ ports vs SFP ports. So why is Cambium pricing 
the 820c at double the Aviat? Sounds like Cambium should be cheaper since the 
Aviat clearly has some advantages.
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Re: [AFMUG] tower owner says underbilled 5 years

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Happened to me too.  But my payment was right.  Their books were wrong.

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From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 11:57 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower owner says underbilled 5 years

How did you know?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 11:33 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower owner says underbilled 5 years

Sounds like Vertical Bridge.

Jim



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 Original message 
From: Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
Date: 2/24/20 11:31 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] tower owner says underbilled 5 years

We just had a tower owner send additional invoices for the past 5 years saying 
an audit when we renewed showed they had underbilled us every month.  The 
amounts are around $50 per month.

Obviously I need to look at contracts and escalation provisions and try to 
determine if they really did underbill us.

Even if they did, is this reasonable?  Should I challenge how far back they can 
bill for their mistake?  60 months of additional rent is a significant amount 
of money.  We also renewed the lease on the assurance that terms and prices 
were staying the same.  If it turns out the lease supports their numbers, it 
still seems like there should be a statute of limitations for back billing.  I 
know we would only bill a customer more for our mistake going forward, not 
retroactively.  Certainly not retroactive 5 years.

Anybody had a similar experience, and what did you do?
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Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I think that is going to vary depending on how much you use it.
We have a Ditch Witch SX100.  Good little machine for 4-6” depth.  We have 
probably only run it 100 hours so far.
We also have a Ditch Witch 4010DD with the plow attachment.  It has about 2000 
hours on it and required a bit of work to get it back to good after purchase.

Overall, I think they are decent machines for what they do.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Steven Kenney
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 1:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Trencher

We are looking to buy a trencher.  The vibrating type... however from what 
we've been told by many people they require constant maintenance because of the 
vibrations.  Things are always falling apart.

Has anyone had any good luck with trenchers that are well built and will last 
more than a few years? If so which brand?

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Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

“If you are paying for a pole attachment, then you are covered by the easement 
of the pole owner. “
IANAL but this is not true.  If there is an easement granted for “electrical 
service” but nothing else, then it does not cover 
fiber/telephone/catv/water/gas/magic.

Spend some time in the courthouse looking at deeds or hire a title company to 
dig it up for you is the safest route.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
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From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 3:56 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

If it is aerial, it is probably on poles you do not own.

If you are paying for a pole attachment, then you are covered by the easement 
of the pole owner.
I would simply ignore the situation.

If a landowner brings it up tell they you are in the public utility ROW.  Have 
them prove you wrong.

From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

So we have run into a situation where our aerial fiber (Put in from previous 
ownership) is over a utility easement over private property, do we need to have 
some type of agreement with land owner or is this considered a Public ROW?  Its 
zoned as an easement and citys water lines run through it as well.




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[AFMUG] FW: Digital tv upsell for your subscribers

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Anyone know of this company?

Their spam is not very good since they didn't get our company name right.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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-Original Message-
From: jase wilson  
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 9:59 AM
To: Brazos WiFi 
Subject: Digital tv upsell for your subscribers

Greetings Bouncelinx team,

Thank you for connecting folks with fiber. You’re doing very important work.

It appears you don’t provide a premium digital tv upsell for your subscribers. 
Is this something that could be of interest? If so, we’d love to connect:

https://r.network


Thank you,
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Benefits

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We go to skeleton crew December 24 z January 2nd.

We give them this PTO as a thank you for the year.

Jim



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 Original message 
From: Chuck McCown 
Date: 12/24/19 1:34 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Benefits

In the past, I would cut people loose mid day on xmas eve and new years eve 
with full pay for the day.

This year I am just giving them the day off with pay.  While I lose a couple of 
days of paid productivity, it times past that half day did not accomplish much 
any way.
So, it sweetens the benefit package a bit.

What is common amongst employers these days?
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Re: [AFMUG] Larger Scale Solar

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

104KW of panels?!
Wowzers.  Bitcoin mining or something else?

Jim Bouse
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 12:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Larger Scale Solar

I used the UBNT SunMax calculator to put together approximate capacity, cost, 
etc. numbers for a theoretical solar setup on one of our barns.

It came up with about 416 panels at about 104 kW of production, costing about 
$140k. I'm assuming that's materials and not installed.

I know that when it was announced, Chuck said you can build a system for much 
cheaper than what Ubiquiti was pushing.

Where would one look to see what I'd need to put one of those systems together?




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Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth Broker/IX

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I've used Dan Piercy for years.

Good guy. Tell him that I shared his info. I might get a free beer next time he 
is in town.

Dan Piercy
Mobile (512) 773-6860
Email pie...@supremefiber.com

Jim



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 Original message 
From: Matt Hoppes 
Date: 12/12/19 5:34 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Bandwidth Broker/IX


Looking for a bandwidth broker/IX in the north east who can search out the best 
option and provide an end to end internet solution for a location 1-2 gigabits 
resellable.


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Re: [AFMUG] Priority on Speedtest.net

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Howdy Adam,

How are you detecting/classifying the test data?  Isn't it all SSL?

Jim Bouse
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 1:32 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Priority on Speedtest.net

I can set a higher priority DSCP value on speedtest.net traffic. I tested this 
on one SM and it works great.  On a busy AP at 9:30pm I was getting speedtest 
results from 12-20mbps.  I set the speedtest traffic to DSCP 26 and enable a 
"medium" priority channel and now it's 34mbps every single time without fail 
(and at my data rate, frame size, etc that's all I could ever hope for).

The question is: Would this be evil?

The feeling is that for some customers there's nothing actually wrong except 
they run speedtest.net simultaneously as their XBox downloads a game and then 
call to report "slow" speeds.  The feeling is that it would be easier to just 
let them see a bigger speed test number than to educate them (and some will 
always refuse to be educated).

The evil part is that it would mask an actual congestion problem.

There's also a notion being tossed around the office that our competitors are 
already doing this.  I have no idea if they actually are, and I'm also not sure 
if I care what they're doing.

-Adam



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Re: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Sangoma is the company behind freepbx.

They have been good to work with.

Jim



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 Original message 
From: Nate Burke 
Date: 10/19/19 3:39 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations

Just got the notice today about Sangoma buying Voip Innovations. Anybody
have experience with them?  Looks like they're a Canadian hardware
company that does a little in the cloud PBX Area?

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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Edgeswitch question

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

If this is a unifi switch, you must use the controller. If it is an edgeswitch, 
you should be able to access.

Jim



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 Original message 
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
Date: 10/5/19 6:06 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Fw:  Edgeswitch question



From: ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 4:29 PM
To: ch...@wbmfg.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Edgeswitch question

Trying to get to it via a unify download.

From: ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 4:27 PM
To: ch...@wbmfg.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Edgeswitch question

It finally showed up in the arp –a
But it says “refused connection” when I try to browse to it.

From: ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 4:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Edgeswitch question

Not seeing any IP with their MAC associated with it.

From: Joe Novak
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 4:22 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Edgeswitch question

That is probably the DHCP fallback IP, it may have pulled an address from your 
DHCP server.

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 5:17 PM  wrote:
Replaced my flaky Nortel with a UBNT poe.  Things are finally running clean.
However, I can’t figure out how to get into the switch to config the POE.

It say on the quick start guide that it has a default of 192.168.1.2 but 
nothing comes up on that address (yes, I did give my PC an address in that 
range) and arp –a does not show the mac of the switch itself.
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Re: [AFMUG] Hmmm: 10Gbps @ 10Km

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Aviat has a radio like that.  18 + 80ghz in the same dish.

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From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 8:20 PM
To: AFMUG 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hmmm: 10Gbps @ 10Km

Definitely. If you need 10 gig, 5ghz probably isn't very useful.
Is there anything that can do 80ghz and 11/18ghz with the same dish?

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 7:32 PM Gino A. Villarini 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
A 80ghz plus 11 or 18 ghz dual solution it’s a better option.


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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 7:12 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hmmm: 10Gbps @ 10Km

well, they're aren't making any claims about availability here, so I'd say this 
is actually fairly honest. If they were say "10Gbps at 10 KM and 99.999% 
availability!", then yeah... of course plenty of companies do that kind of 
thing, afterall, you can do any two of those things with these radios/dishes.

I don't see any reason you couldn't do 10Gbps at 10km with these radios... 
granted aligning them would probably be a nightmare, and most of us probably 
don't have much use for a link with less than 99% availability, but I imagine 
somebody does.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
It seems this 5 GHz backup same antenna thing has become required hype in their 
product space.  Apparently the premise is it switches to the 5 GHz if there’s a 
single raindrop, and obviously the backup won’t be 10 Gbps even on a good day, 
probably about 1 or 2% of that.

Apparently if all your competitors are telling whoppers, you need to tell an 
even bigger whopper.  Or am I misunderstanding the situation?  Maybe they’ve 
harnessed Google’s quantum computing breakthrough.

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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Dan Spitler
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 5:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hmmm: 10Gbps @ 10Km

I dunno. Their own link-budget doesn't show 10 Gbps over 8km (rain zone D)
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:11 PM Sean Heskett 
mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
We have several siklu links at 5-6miles.  Just have to be prepared to use 
another path when rain fade hits.

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Re: [AFMUG] GPON SFP switch?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

GPON uses a TDMA system.  
The OLT handles the timing and scheduling.  That's why you can't use a standard 
switch.  The PON module is dumb and takes orders from the OLT.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Dev
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 2:53 PM
To: AF@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] GPON SFP switch?

What is the difference between a head end OLT and just some switch that would 
support GPON SFP’s? Is there such a thing? Why are OLT’s so expensive, what 
else do they need to do?
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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti UFiber

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

6 or 8 months ago.

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From: AF  On Behalf Of Dan Spitler
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:21 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti UFiber

SNMP! When did that (finally) happen?

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 6:22 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:
We have been using it in production since July 30, 2018.  Much testing before 
then.
Nearly 100 subs on them so far and no issues in current firmware.  Early beta 
FW had some memory leaks in the ONU but I don’t think we have had a single 
trouble call in months from a fiber customer.
Overall, it does a good job of moving the bits downstream without a lot of fuss.
We use UNMS to monitor.  You can use SNMP instead if you want.
ONU in Router mode can route a full gig.  Bridge mode can do a gig (obviously).
We are using the NanoG instead of the Loco because I like the screens and they 
come with gig POE adapters which we use.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jason McKemie
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 8:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:Af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti UFiber

Has anyone out there had this in a production environment for any period of 
time? Good, bad, ugly?
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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti UFiber

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We have been using it in production since July 30, 2018.  Much testing before 
then.
Nearly 100 subs on them so far and no issues in current firmware.  Early beta 
FW had some memory leaks in the ONU but I don’t think we have had a single 
trouble call in months from a fiber customer.
Overall, it does a good job of moving the bits downstream without a lot of fuss.
We use UNMS to monitor.  You can use SNMP instead if you want.
ONU in Router mode can route a full gig.  Bridge mode can do a gig (obviously).
We are using the NanoG instead of the Loco because I like the screens and they 
come with gig POE adapters which we use.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 8:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti UFiber

Has anyone out there had this in a production environment for any period of 
time? Good, bad, ugly?
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Re: [AFMUG] tecnu

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

It works.  I've used it many times.

Jim Bouse
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 8:22 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] tecnu

There's a product on Amazon called Tecnu that claims to remove the oil from 
poison ivy/oak if you use it right away.  Can anyone verify?

Unfortunately you would have to buy it ahead of time and have it with you, 
along with running cool water.  Kind of like the products they sell at pet 
stores to get skunk smell out of your dog, it's great if you buy it before the 
actual skunk incident and can grab it quick and also have a hose.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Email Etiquette

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

+1



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 Original message 
From: Nate Burke 
Date: 7/1/19 6:09 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Email Etiquette

So I've noticed a slide recently of what I would consider 'Email
Etiquette'  Customers send an email with no subject line.  Or reply to
an old email, with a new topic.  EG: our billing system sends out
automated invoices.  A customer will just reply to one of those emails,
weeks later, with a service issue.  Doesn't bother to change the subject
line or anything.  Another common email is just an email with the text
"my internet is down"  No name/address/phone, anything else
identifiable.  sometimes the email they use is in our system and we can
find it that way, other times not.

At some point I must have learned how to use email, I'm guessing people
no longer learn that.

And don't get me started on the people that text the main office
number.  I mean, we do get the SMS messages, but again, usually it's
just a text like 'Internet is not working'  With nothing else to know
who it is.

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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I would be shocked if it works.
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

a mile between handholes


On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:09 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:
In my experience, it is tough to get a second cable through a conduit even if 
there is a mule tape.  It seems the first cable seems to clog things up.
We have had limited success inside subdivisions where we have flat drop cable 
and running 1 or 2 more flat drops in a conduit.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96 
count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if its 
populated with 24 count?
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Re: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

In my experience, it is tough to get a second cable through a conduit even if 
there is a mule tape.  It seems the first cable seems to clog things up.
We have had limited success inside subdivisions where we have flat drop cable 
and running 1 or 2 more flat drops in a conduit.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] 1.25 innerduct capacity

Pretty sure the answer is no on both, but if i have 1.25 populated with 96 
count, can you realistically come back and blow/pull anything else? What if its 
populated with 24 count?
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Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

How can you resell sling?

Jim



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 Original message 
From: Adam Moffett 
Date: 4/10/19 4:50 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Sling TV

Anybody reselling sling?  Any money in that game?


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Re: [AFMUG] Recommendation for fusion splicer and otdr

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

We recently bought one of these: 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072Q4YRHR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_80cDCbHPBER5S

I have been very happy with it. We have done about 50 splices with it so far.

My only complaint is that you have to use a phone via bluetooth to configure it.

We have an orientek otdr. It seems to work well. I have never used another type 
so it may be lacking but I'm not aware.

I saw yesterday that fiberstore has handheld otdr for about $850. They could 
work too.

Jim Bouse
Brazos WiFi



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 Original message 
From: TJ Trout 
Date: 3/5/19 10:37 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Recommendation for fusion splicer and otdr

Looking for a decent Chinese splicer and otdr, looking at orientek for splicer 
not sure for otdr.

Should I be looking for something second hand quality stuff instead of cheapo 
eBay?

Just looking to get some basic stuff to get my hands dirty, splicer, identifier 
, light meter, otdr , cleave and some basic stuff?
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Re: [AFMUG] Centurylink/Level3 Bandwidth

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Lots of taxes and fees.



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 Original message 
From: Nate Burke 
Date: 1/31/19 5:27 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Centurylink/Level3 Bandwidth

Anyone using Centurylink branded Fiber+ Internet?  They gave us a very
good Quote for 1gig connection loop and port, (as in almost 'too good to
be true'),  so we're wondering if anyone has real world experience with
them.  I believe the actual product is called Fiber+.  They're saying we
can do BGP to AS209, and there are no extra charges for anything other
than a little bit of tax.  The price is making us a little wary that
they're not telling us something.



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Re: [AFMUG] microfiber

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Interesting.
What are you ending up at for cost per foot on long runs like that?

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From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 3:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] microfiber

Blew about 11,000 feet of microfiber this morning.  400 fpm.
One of the segments was 6000 feet.
I am really getting to love microduct and microfiber.
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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

I haven't seen this on my deployments.

Tag @ubnt-james in a post on the gpon forum. He can offer assistance.



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 Original message 
From: Colin Stanners 
Date: 11/12/18 3:34 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti phone support? (big problem with all GPON OLTs)

Is there a phone number for Ubiquiti support? Can't find on website. We're 
about to go live on a GPON fiber deployment where we were looking to use their 
OLTs, but every OLT that we have tried (3 brand new units) has the same problem 
in production that wasn't seen in testing - the data port disconnects after 
10minutes and 15seconds, requires OLT reboot. This is on the newest firmware.

Their e-mail tech support asks a question and then takes hours to reply - it's 
been days without much progress. I am not asking for super-fast support, but 
we'd like someone who can look at our case more than twice a day.
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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

UBNT is doing what UBNT does.  They take commodity hardware and wrap it in a 
shiny box with a slick UI.
The commodity hardware is cheap and works reliably well.  Don’t hate on 
something that sells well because it is easy to use.

No, they aren’t selling glass.  They expect you to do that part on your own.

Jim Bouse
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 8:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

I don't trust ubnt in any space. That's why their fiber stuffs aren't even on 
our radar. They're just doing the electronics right? Tell me they're not in the 
glass game itself. Tell me God they're not selling tough fiber or anything like 
that to rot in the ground

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 2:25 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I can generally get a building permit to use a public utility ROW or the side 
of a street for almost free.
Perhaps use a customers home for everything in exchange for service etc.

I agree, for 30 PON is a good way to go.  But I like the simplicity of AE, the 
fact that I can cast shade on PON based competitors and not having to deal with 
splitters.

And I do PON all day long with Calix.  But for a non regulated for profit 
startup, Calix is not the way to go.
However I do not trust UBNT in this space... yet...


From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:18 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal fees, concrete pad, 
electrical install, cabinet, UPS, heating/cooling, fiber switch is probably 
$10,000 - 15,000 including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not sure that it 
would be worth doing for only 30 homes.

PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice cases and require 
none of that support cost $60 each.

Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks pretty good when we 
still have tower sites with 16 customers on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP. And 10Gbit 
GPON seems to be coming soon...




On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all 30 homes 
active E.

Each home needs a drop.
So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or an SFP.

With AE you will have to power the switch but then  you have no shared 
bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...



From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

That's the main reason, and it branches into upgradeability. If a new 30-house 
subdivision appears in a field a few miles from your headend, and you have a 
spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use 2-3 strands instead of 
running new 48-strand cable the whole way.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use this vs 
active ethernet?

From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

It works fine.  We have it in 2 subdivisions.
It is brain dead simple to configure.
Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.  The ONU (cpe) can run in 
bridge or router mode.  I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are capable of 
but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
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From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jason McKemie
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:Af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment?  I have a 
test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought I'd check 
with the group.

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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

All good points.
I am using UNMS to monitor it currently but am looking at other options.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

We've been investigating Ufiber as an option for our fiber GPON deployments. 
Hardware seems good, firmware has a long ways to go - from what we've seen, the 
CPEs don't have WAN-accessible IPs (except for the in the undesirable NAT mode) 
nor support SNMP management yet, so we have to consider them unmonitorable. The 
fact that headend IP access doesn't work but the CPEs by default have 
customer-side IPs that are reachable, which is the opposite of what a provider 
wants, is strange. Ubnt's suggestion to monitor the OLTs directly would have 
people logged into them 24/7 to watch these devices, which doesn't work, nor to 
use UNMS as we already have far more extensive systems installed and built into 
company accounting/change tracking processes (and supporting many other Cambium 
wireless and other fiber platforms). But there was a post from an Ubnt employee 
a few days ago on here that some of these fixes, especially SNMP, are on track 
for firmware 3.1.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:18 PM Jason McKemie 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
wrote:
Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment?  I have a 
test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought I'd check 
with the group.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT finishing a degree

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

As someone who screwed up plenty, I would suggest having him physically visit 
someone in the department that he needs to be in for the CS degree.

When I sat across the desk from someone who knew exactly what needed to be 
done, I got my marching orders and followed them to a T.  Years of lackluster 
responses from the department via email were replaced with 20 minutes in front 
of someone.

Jim



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 Original message 
From: Chuck McCown 
Date: 8/25/18 9:41 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT finishing a degree

My oldest son has attended just about every college and university  in Utah I 
think.
He cares more about his job building parts for SpaceX than he does his degree.
But lack of degree is limiting his upward mobility at the aerospace company he 
works for.

He has been in lots of programs at multiple colleges.  Aerospace engineering, 
CS, cyber security. About 20 credits from finishing a CS degree.
He fouled up a re-admissions process and now finds himself unable to finish at 
the university he was going to a few days before classes start.
I know how that feels.  I did something similar and had to finish somewhere 
else.

Non traditional student, early 30s.
I know there are lots of online places that will take your transfer credits.
I just don’t know any particular places.

Any recommendations?
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Re: [AFMUG] GPS GNSS Accuracy

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Check out Javad.



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 Original message 
From: Chuck McCown 
Date: 7/31/18 10:45 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] GPS GNSS Accuracy

I need a survey stick with as much accuracy as I can get for the dollar.  Last 
time I bought one of these it was over $10K and had to use post correction.  
Surly there is a better deal in the past 10 years.

Map grade accuracy is good enough for me.  Sub 1 meter.  Like to have the stick 
with the antenna on top.  Like to post correct.  Just not sure what is the 
latest out there.


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Re: [AFMUG] Used/Test Ubiquiti GPON?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

It is pretty well stupid-proof.
Plug in OLT.
Plug in fiber.
Plug in ONU on other end of fiber.
Boom! Layer2 connectivity from OLT to ONU port.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Timothy Steele
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 6:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used/Test Ubiquiti GPON?

Don't think there is much to setting up the ubnt GPON

Looks like the client side just plugs into the fiber switch and you manage it 
all with your UNMS server

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 11:37 AM Tim Cailloux 
mailto:t...@southern-internet.com>> wrote:
I'm looking at it as an opportunity to get familiar with production GPON in a 
safe (and indoor, and air conditioned) environment.

I've been planning to start with Active Ethernet on discrete VLANs and 
aggregating the runs in a CRS212, uplinked to a CCR1009 (my standard "tower 
router").

tim

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:14 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:
Chuck,

+1

GPON is great for scaling.  But, if I'm going into a office building with just 
a few offices, I would look at Active E.  Of course, if this office building 
has 100's of offices, then back to GPON

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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 11:06:02 AM, you wrote:

Sounds to me like an ideal active E deployment if you have fiber drops to the 
suites.  PON would add a layer of complexity that seems unnecessary.

From: Tim Cailloux
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:46 AM
To: Animal Farm Mailing List
Subject: [AFMUG] Used/Test Ubiquiti GPON?

I'm providing managed WiFi service to a commercial office building and it seems 
like a good testbed for a trial GPON deployment, replacing Ethernet drops to 
the suites.

Does anyone have any of the Ubiquiti GPON gear (OLT, in particular) gathering 
dust on the shelf that you'd be willing to sell/loan?

tim

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