Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code
On Fri May 3 2024 11:37, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > At least I am not older than FORmula TRANslation or Common Business > Oriented Language. Hmmm, I programmed in both -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Cable Spooler
Hmmm, threaded rod long enough to go through the spool and leave room to attach drill on end. Two large washers and two nuts same as threaded rod. Insert rod through spool and place a large washer on either side of spool. tighten the nuts just enough to provide tension to spin the spool. Turn on drill and try it, if if slips, tighten nuts some more. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue April 25 2023 09:54, Nate Burke wrote: > I'm sure something exists, but I can't find the right term. Is there a > cheap/easy way of spooling up small cable spools. 12"-18" diameter > wooden spools. I was thinking like a small tire or something in a drill > to hold against the edge of the spool to spin it while another person > guides the wire on the spool. Is something like this for sale? I found > lots of fishing line spoolers, but they are small. And a 'Drill wheel' > Gives me a bunch of sanding tools. I'm guessing I just haven't thought > of the right term to search for yet. > > I've had multiple boxes of Shireen DC-1030 cable that have come with > Broken cardboard spools in the box, and we have to re-spool the entire > box onto a new spool by hand. Spinning the wooden spool by hand for a > thousand rotations is very tiring. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Testing uno dos cinco
On Thu March 16 2023 07:54, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Is this thing on? I have shared some pictures and stuff...my Gmail outbox > says unsent...que Pasa? > Others are getting them ... > Aliens? NADA here, no pics. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] mail server oddness
And then it is no longer your problem. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue March 14 2023 11:40, Mike Hammett wrote: > You don't have to care at that point. ;-) > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: "Mike Hammett" , "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Cc: "Frank McCown" > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 11:36:57 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail server oddness > > > > > I am afraid firing myself would probably fix the problem. > > > > > > > From: Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 10:24 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Cc: Chuck McCown ; Frank McCown > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail server oddness > > > Fire one person a day until it goes away... or doesn't. > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Chuck McCown via AF" > To: af@af.afmug.com > Cc: "Chuck McCown" , "Frank McCown" > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 11:15:39 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail server oddness > > > I presume it is a windows VM thing. My son Frank installed it and he likes > windows stuff. > > I have a large mailbox and IMAP. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry Smith > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:55 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Cc: Chuck McCown via AF ; Chuck McCown > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail server oddness > > On Tue March 14 2023 10:44, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > So back to my problem. Our mail server hangs when we are at the office. > > Requiring reboot several times a day. But when we go home and connect > > either through the public internet or via VPN it does not hang... > > Hmmm, Windows or Linux? > Sounds like a client is slamming the server locally. > Have seen this with fairly large mailboxes and IMAP > trying to sync. > > -- > Larry Smith > lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] mail server oddness
On Tue March 14 2023 10:44, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > So back to my problem. Our mail server hangs when we are at the office. > Requiring reboot several times a day. But when we go home and connect > either through the public internet or via VPN it does not hang... Hmmm, Windows or Linux? Sounds like a client is slamming the server locally. Have seen this with fairly large mailboxes and IMAP trying to sync. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] 900 MHZ AP set sync input from command line
Anyone know if it is possible to set the sync input on a Canopy 900 MHZ AP from the command line? And if so what parameter name? -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange
Forrest, Excellent example. My grandson is a certified welder. When he graduated high school he had four of the five required certificates / classes to be certified. The company he now works for said they would hire him at their trainiee rate until he finished his classes and actually got his certificate. Once he got his certificate it made about $23/hr difference in his pay. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Wed February 15 2023 15:09, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > Yep, that's what I mean. > > If I need a certified welder, until a given person is a certified welder > that person does me exactly zero good as far as my need for a certified > welder. Which means that the value to me of that person as a certified > welder is zero. > > They may be worth $15/hr as a janitor or $100/hr as a senior systems > designer/engineer, assuming I need that skillset and that's what they're > qualified for. But zero as a certified welder. > > Going to a potential employer and saying "I'm not a certified welder but I > see you will train me to be one, but you'll have to pay me the market rate > for a certified welder from day one" shouldn't seem reasonable to anyone. > Until the certificate is achieved the value to the employer is zero. > > If a person wants a job that they aren't currently qualified for, the > traditional method was to go to school and spend their own money and learn > a trade. The offer Chuck and I make is that if you're completely > unqualified come work for a lower wage until I can get you up to speed. In > my case the starting wage would be higher than $15 right now, but that's > because I tend to set it at whatever it seems the "entry level McDonald's" > wage is. > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 1:32 PM wrote: > > I interpreted it in a more hyperbolic way. I.E. The value of an > > unskilled person is zero to Forrest because Forrest requires skilled > > labor. I don’t imagine that Forrest truly believes any person (skilled > > or otherwise) has zero value. > > > > > > > > The point about deferring income is well taken. People could have child > > support payments, debts, etc which limit their options in life. > > Hopefully not too many 18 yr old graduates have those issues, but I’m > > sure some do. > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *fiber...@mail.com > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2023 3:20 PM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange > > > > > > > > The counterexamples were in response to the absolutist statement > > regardling the lack of value of labor. They were not directly related to > > market of welders. > > > > > > > > Indirectly, however, they relate via supply and demand. All labor has a > > market clearing price. If the market price of unskilled labor is higher > > than the wage of a welding trainee, it will reduce the available labor > > pool for welding trainees. > > > > > > > > Welding might very well be a better career move, but not all employees > > are in a position to defer income. Thus by surpressing the welding > > trainee pay, the employer is limiting the pool of applicants to those who > > can afford to take the job, rather than to all those who may have a > > disposition for the job. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Jared > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2023 > > *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com > > *To:* "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'" > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange > > > > “This is provably incorrect. Counterexample: slavery and forced labor.” > > > > > > > > I’m not sure what the relevance is of forced labor in this discussion. > > Do you mean because a $0 “employee” drives down the market price? > > > > Where are the slave welders that would alter Chuck’s pay scale? I’m open > > to further discussion on this point, but at the moment I don’t see how > > it’s relevant. > > > > > > > > “$15/h may be an awesome deal or it may not, if working at McDonald's > > pays $18/h.” > > > > > > > > If McDonald’s pays $18/hr and a welding trainee gets $15/hr, you are > > *still better off long term taking the welding position*. If you turn > > out to be a terrible welder then quit and go to McDonalds, but if you get > > good at it then your potential earnings go way farther up than the fast > > food industry. I will take the $15 and figure out how to make it work, > >
[AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW
Question for those more in tune than I. We are working (attempting) with our local electric company for access to their ROW for some of our fiber and they have stated that the rights granted ISP's under Title II (telecommunications provider) in 2015 was reversed in 2017 and then in 2018 ISP's were put back as "information" services removing any Title II rights and reverting them to Title I only. Escentially they are saying we have to be a LEC or CLEC to get access. Anyone have a good answer for this ?? -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
LOL, been to a few of those. Key point to remember is nowhere is now here also. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon January 16 2023 11:18, Bill Prince wrote: > I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and > escort) to be there. > > > bp > > > On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > Looks like a place to get probed. > > *From:* Bill Prince > > *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz > > > > Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back > > in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. > > > > bp > > > > > > On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentCom > >>putingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-compu > >>ting-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange > >> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/mid > >>west-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP > >> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > >> > >> > >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > >> > >> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com > >> *To: *af@af.afmug.com > >> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com > >> *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM > >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz > >> > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Protecting Upstream Connections
In the past when we had similar problems with Windstream I found that often (about 75 percent of the time) I could hard reset the BGP session locally and Windstream would pickup after the reset and route correctly. The other 25 percent, like you, I just had to down the BGP session with them entirely and wait for the routes to clear. A few of those times I even called our 24/hr support number to ask if they could clear or reset the session from their side and was inevitably told "we will look into it" (not)... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue November 15 2022 14:08, Nate Burke wrote: > Ran into a problem today where one of my upstreams (windstream) was > still advertising my IP blocks out to the internet, but wasn't routing > all the traffic to me. I was still taking in traffic, but, for example, > Google couldn't get to me on IP Blocks advertized via windstream. Took > a while to track down what was happening and then manually turn off the > Windstream BGP neighbor, which luckily fixed the problem once the subnet > advertisements finally timed out and traffic shifted to other providers, > which took a good 5-10 minutes. > > Is there a way to protect against that? My BGP Session to Windstream > was still up and running, but something broke farther up in the > Windstream network. Is the only method in that scenario to Just monitor > and react? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fishing over Drop Ceiling
We used to use a kids plastic (small, hand held) crossbow. Tie a cotton string to the bolt, shoot it to the other side. Tie off line and pull what you needed. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon September 19 2022 09:04, Nate Burke wrote: > I need to go about 30' across a drop ceiling. I do not want to remove > any tiles in the middle. If I put a tennis ball on the end of my screw > together fiberglass rods will that be enough to bounce over the ceiling > supports as I push it? Does it need to be bigger or smoother? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] BDC
Ouch for sure, Prayers. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 22 2022 16:59, David Hannum wrote: > 1.1 cm. . . Sorry. 11cm Holy cow > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 5:56 PM David Hannum wrote: > > Cameron, > > > > Sorry to delay getting back today. Been at hospital all day with my > > wife. Monster 11cm kidney stone. Going into surgery now! > > > > Dave > > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 1:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >> Brian Webster and crew are doing ours. Super good value! > >> > >> *From:* David Hannum > >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2022 8:33 PM > >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BDC > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> On Sun, Aug 21, 2022, 8:12 PM Cameron Crum wrote: > >>> We will depending on what you have and how you got it. Call us > >>> tomorrow. regulatorysolutions.us > >>> > >>> Cameron > >>> > >>> On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 7:04 PM David Hannum > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Did I read someone here stated some of you would review BDC filings > >>>> and sign off on them? Are the details of this posted somewhere? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks! > >>>> Dave Hannum > >>>> New Era Broadband > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> AF mailing list > >>>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> AF mailing list > >>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> -- > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question for the Borg (Unifi AP-LR)
Can you not change the WIFI pswd from the SSH session?
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On Wed August 3 2022 14:15, Bill Prince wrote:
> I was able to log into it via SSH. No surprise, it's running firmware
> 3.3.22 from 2017. The oldest firmware on their website is 3.7.58 from
> 2019. I tried to tell it to update to that firmware, but I think the
> firmware is no longer there, because I get this error:
>
> BZ.v3.3.22# upgrade
> https://dl.ui.com/unifi/firmware/U2Sv2/3.7.58.6385/BZ.qca9342.v3.7.58.6385.
>170508.0942.bin Downloading firmware from
> 'https://dl.ui.com/unifi/firmware/U2Sv2/3.7.58.6385/BZ.qca9342.v3.7.58.6385
>.170508.0942.bin'.
>
> --2022-08-03 11:28:41--
> https://dl.ui.com/unifi/firmware/U2Sv2/3.7.58.6385/BZ.qca9342.v3.7.58.6385.
>170508.0942.bin Resolving dl.ui.com... failed: Connection timed out.
> wget: unable to resolve host address `dl.ui.com'
> Image short, header truncated.
> Invalid firmware.
>
> It can ping the host dl.ui.com, so I think the "unable to resolve"
> message is referring to the file, and not the host. The discovery tool
> can find it, so it looks like my best bet is to reset it and try to
> update it from the controller (I was able to d/l controller 5.10.17,
> which is the oldest on their website.
>
>
> bp
>
>
> On 8/2/2022 11:01 PM, Craig Baird wrote:
> > I think if you download an old controller version from before the EOL,
> > you can probably manage it. Go to:
> >
> > https://www.ui.com/download/unifi/
> >
> > Scroll down past the "Firmware" section to the "Software" section.
> > Below that, click the button that says "See Past Software". Controller
> > versions there go back to 2019.
> >
> > I've not done this before, but it seems like it should work. Just keep
> > in mind that since it's not the same controller that was used to adopt
> > and set up the AP, you'll probably have to physically reset the AP
> > before the controller will allow you to adopt and do anything with it.
> > And of course, if you reset the AP, and then find out that the old
> > controller version somehow knows it's EOL, then you're completely
> > hosed and have effectively just bricked the AP. I doubt that will
> > happen, but I've doubted a lot of things that did happen, so take that
> > for what it's worth. :)
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 7:53 PM Bill Prince wrote:
> >
> > Welp, it's been about 3 years since I've needed to make any
> > changes to the Unifi AP-LR that we installed way back in 2015 (I
> > think). Durn thing works really well. So well, in fact, that I
> > haven't made any changes in it since before the pandemic (maybe
> > longer).
> >
> > Today, my SO asked me to change the WiFi PW. She asked if it's a
> > big deal. Nope I answer (confident as usual). Gosh darn, the Unifi
> > controller is no longer on my desktop (no surprise, I replaced the
> > desktop a couple years ago.
> >
> > I go to the Ubiqiti web site to D/L the controller,etc. and find
> > that that model was EOL'd back in 2021. Sheesh. What do I do now?
> > The thing works as well (or better) than any WiFI AP I've had
> > before, so I am loath to replace the thing just to change the PW.
> > What's the best way to deal with this?
> >
> > --
> > bp
> > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
> > --
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> > AF@af.afmug.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question for the Borg (Unifi AP-LR)
Believe these devices also have SSH if configured when you set it up.
That might be a way to get there and reset the WIFI pswd without
needing the controller.
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On Tue August 2 2022 20:51, Bill Prince wrote:
> Welp, it's been about 3 years since I've needed to make any changes to the
> Unifi AP-LR that we installed way back in 2015 (I think). Durn thing works
> really well. So well, in fact, that I haven't made any changes in it since
> before the pandemic (maybe longer).
>
> Today, my SO asked me to change the WiFi PW. She asked if it's a big deal.
> Nope I answer (confident as usual). Gosh darn, the Unifi controller is no
> longer on my desktop (no surprise, I replaced the desktop a couple years
> ago.
>
> I go to the Ubiqiti web site to D/L the controller,etc. and find that that
> model was EOL'd back in 2021. Sheesh. What do I do now? The thing works as
> well (or better) than any WiFI AP I've had before, so I am loath to replace
> the thing just to change the PW. What's the best way to deal with this?
>
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
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Re: [AFMUG] BDC
Chuck, Just curious if you ever got an answer on your request for assistance on the BDC filings. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu July 21 2022 10:13, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I requested help under the service providers smaller than 100K will get > assistance from the commission. We will see what kind of assistance I get. > > From: Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 8:33 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC > > WISPA is absolutely fighting this. We absolutely did not want this. > There's way more opposition than WISPA has resources, but we still did get > some wins. > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 11:12 PM Steve Jones > wrote: > > I'm sure wispa is out there looking out for us > That is sarcasm > Wispa isnt what itwas when it lived in this neighborhood > I feel we all need to watch brokeback mountain to prepare what's coming > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2022, 6:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote: > > Perhaps. I am sure there will be things filed about this. > > From: Brian Webster > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 4:46 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Cc: 'Chuck McCown' > Subject: RE: [AFMUG] BDC > > Keep in mind that is a temp fix and only good for the next 18 months. > Then the full PE cert is required. > > > > Thank you, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > > > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via > AF Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 5:10 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Cc: Chuck McCown > Subject: [AFMUG] BDC > > > > Starting to look into what I have to do. > > Just read the certification requirements. This is the language of the > alternate, non PE, non degreed engineer certifier: > > (ii) specialized training relevant to broadband network engineering and > design, deployment, and/or performance, and at least ten years of relevant > experience in broadband network engineering, design, and/or performance. > > > > I am guessing everyone on this list fits this set of qualifications. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > --- >- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] VMWare
We are testing out a Proxmox VE install and so far it looks pretty good. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue July 12 2022 14:08, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Dustin, > > What is your thoughts on Hyper-V vs VMWare. To be honest, I'm more > comfortable in a windows environment. Almost all my VMs are windows OSs at > the moment. I do have a couple of Ubuntu servers running. Be interested > in why you went Hyper-V over VMWare? I think VMWare has the larger market > share. > > > > -- > Best regards, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Communications > www.Myakka.com > > -- > > Tuesday, July 12, 2022, 2:53:39 PM, you wrote: > > > > > >Hey Mark, > > I know we do that with native Hyper-V and it always seem strange to me > that if you are running Microsoft VM's you have to purchase Microsoft > Datacenter licenses and VMWARE, but I understand some applications are only > supported under VMWARE. That being said we use altaro for unattended > backups (Microsoft and Linux) and they have a VMWARE version you might want > to check out. > > Good Luck, > > Dustin > > Dustin Jurman > CEO > (NEW ADDRESS) > Rapid Systems Corporation > 1801 N Himes Ave > Tampa, FL 33607 > Ph: 813-232-4887 > http://www.rapidsys.com > “Building Better Infrastructure” > > > From: AF on behalf of Mark - Myakka Technologies > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:41:53 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] VMWare > > We had a slight electric issue yesterday. Messed up some of our > VM servers. I got things rigged back together, but I need to build a > more robust VM system. > > I'm look to move into the VMWare world. I think Vmware Vsphere > Essentials Plus is the route I need to go. I may be able to get away > with just Essentials, but the extra tools may help. > > Any thoughts on setup. Currently we run RAID10 on each VM Host and > backup to a NAS. I'm thinking I'll keep that setup for the VMWare. > > If I get Essentials Plus will I be able to to HOT backups of running > VMs or is that a third party thing? > > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Communications > www.Myakka.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing on
On Tue May 10 2022 09:57, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > ? > > Sent from my iPhone I can see clearly now the rain is gone... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue
Yes, but it ends with an INPUT "drop all" entry. Agree it does not "appear" to be anything in the firewall, but only takes a few seconds to test and prove one way or the other. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Wed May 4 2022 14:58, Christopher Tyler wrote: > That is the export of the entire firewall on that router, there are no > forward, nat or mangle rules, therefore there shouldn't be anything keeping > the data from getting to/from anything, let alone blocking all but one IP > address in the IP range. > > It's a /29 block, ip is x.x.x.x/29 on the router interface to the switch, > /29 in OSPF network as well. > > This is why I'm completely stumped, everything looks fine. We're going to > roll that router back tonight to 7.1.5 the "long term" version to see if > that does anything. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > www.totalhighspeed.com > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de > oportunidades. > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Josh Luthman" > > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 11:39:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > > > > Input/output aren't relevant for forward traffic. > > > > Are your subnets right everywhere? > > > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:20 PM Christopher Tyler < [ > > mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] > wrote: > > > > > > Very minimal, really just basic input rules, nothing that would block the > > IP addresses from getting through. No NAT or Mangle rules on this router. > > > > /ip firewall filter > > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ESTABLISHED/RELATED" \ > > connection-state=established,related > > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT OSPF" protocol=ospf > > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ICMP (ping)" protocol=icmp > > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT SNMP" dst-port=160-161 > > protocol=\ udp > > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT DHCP" dst-port=67 > > protocol=udp add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth > > Test" dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=tcp > > add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" > > dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=udp > > add action=accept chain=input dst-port=5678 protocol=tcp > > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT THIS Mgmt" > > src-address-list=\ THIS_ADMIN > > add action=accept chain=output comment="ACCEPT ALL OUTBOUND" > > add action=drop chain=input comment="DROP ALL OTHER INPUT" > > > > > > -- > > Christopher Tyler > > Senior Network Engineer > > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > > Nixa, MO 65714 > > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > > [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] > > > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de > > oportunidades. > > > > - Original Message - > > > >> From: "Josh Luthman" < [ mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com | > >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] > > >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | > >> af@af.afmug.com ] > > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 11:12:55 AM > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > >> > >> Firewall filter rules? > >> > >> Double check the gateway and subnet on the server. > >> > >> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 11:17 AM Christopher Tyler < [ > >> mailto: [ mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] | > >> [ mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] ] > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> We have one of the new Mikrotik CCR2216-1G-12XS-2XQ routers running > >> RouterOS 7.2.1 with a Mikrotik switch (running 6.44.3) hanging off of > >> it. I have two servers on that switch both in the the same public IP > >> block. I can ping both servers from the router, and they can ping each > >> other. One server is globally reachable and the other is not reachabl
Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue
To verify that, drop the firewall and then test again. If its firewall related it will start working. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Wed May 4 2022 11:18, Christopher Tyler wrote: > Very minimal, really just basic input rules, nothing that would block the > IP addresses from getting through. No NAT or Mangle rules on this router. > > /ip firewall filter > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ESTABLISHED/RELATED" \ > connection-state=established,related > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT OSPF" protocol=ospf > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ICMP (ping)" protocol=icmp > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT SNMP" dst-port=160-161 > protocol=\ udp > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT DHCP" dst-port=67 > protocol=udp add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth > Test" dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=tcp > add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" > dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=udp > add action=accept chain=input dst-port=5678 protocol=tcp > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT THIS Mgmt" src-address-list=\ > THIS_ADMIN > add action=accept chain=output comment="ACCEPT ALL OUTBOUND" > add action=drop chain=input comment="DROP ALL OTHER INPUT" > > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > www.totalhighspeed.com > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de > oportunidades. > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Josh Luthman" > > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 11:12:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > > > > Firewall filter rules? > > > > Double check the gateway and subnet on the server. > > > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 11:17 AM Christopher Tyler < [ > > mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] > wrote: > > > > > > We have one of the new Mikrotik CCR2216-1G-12XS-2XQ routers running > > RouterOS 7.2.1 with a Mikrotik switch (running 6.44.3) hanging off of it. > > I have two servers on that switch both in the the same public IP block. I > > can ping both servers from the router, and they can ping each other. One > > server is globally reachable and the other is not reachable other than > > from the router or switch itself. I plugged in my laptop and assigned it > > an IP in that same range and cannot reach it extrenally either. The > > router is using OSPF and I can see the route for that IP block from both > > sides of the router, but traceroutes/pings to anything other than the > > server that is working stop at the router. No vlans or special > > configuration between the router and the switch, just basic IP, all ports > > on the switch are bridged. Forwarded ports (dstnat) don't appear to work > > from the router either. > > > > I'm stumped, so I figured I would ask if anyone else has seen anything > > like this and have a solution, or am I looking at a possible RouterOS 7 > > issue? > > > > -- > > Christopher Tyler > > Senior Network Engineer > > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > > Nixa, MO 65714 > > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > > [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] > > > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de > > oportunidades. > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] List dead?
On Mon April 4 2022 10:36, Steve Jones wrote: > is this thing on? Hmmm, last I got prior to yours was April 1st. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] DFS Hits El Paso Area
Quite a few military bases are ramping up activity due to the situation in Ukraine I believe. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue March 15 2022 10:41, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Hello Fine Feathered Friends: > Since last week several WISPs in the area have been getting DFS hits which > change their frequencies to the 5745MHz mostly! They all have pops on the > Franklin Mountains which exposes them to radar signals from El Paso > International Airport, Santa Teresa Airport, Fort Bliss, Biggs, McGregor, > and WSMR. > > It has never been this bad.any ideas? > thx > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Test
On Thu March 3 2022 07:51, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Sent from my iPhone B- -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers
Not to argue the point, but I can (and have often) carry 10 to 20 gallons of gas in the back of my pickup and extend my "range" to between 800 and 900 miles. Especially do this when pulling our 30' camper around the country. Guess one can start filling the back of their vehicle with solar panels and hope like h.ll its not pouring rain when they need to recharge. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon February 14 2022 14:51, Mike Hammett wrote: > You plan your trips around gas stations, why not chargers? > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 2:49:51 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers > > >plan your trip around chargers > > This is straight awful IMO. I want to stop when I want to stop, not when I > need to stop. > > > You're absolutely forced to do lunch within a few steps of that charger. If > you don't mind fast food that's probably a moot point, but when I go to a > different area I absolutely do not want anything like that or anything I'm > routinely familiar with. > > > Different strokes, different folks. I looked at a Taycan and while it > drives amazing, the trunk is worse than the Panamera (seriously wtf) and > the range issue is a killer for me (being my daily). > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:43 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > If you're doing 300-500 miles in a day regularly, an EV probably isn't for > you at this point. 1-2 times a year, plan your trip around chargers and see > the sites that happen to be around those chargers, or rent a gas car. > > > But even now, I really don't think any of that would be a problem in, say, > a new Tesla Model S with 400 miles or range... Superchargers are > everywhere, and they really don't take that long. to go 500 miles in a day, > you'd probably be talking one 20 minute stop... that's basically lunch. > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 2:33 PM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > wrote: > > > > Sure, but let's say it's 1-2 times a year. What do you do if you want to > make that long trip? > > > I'm not saying you can't live with an EV, but doing 300-500 miles in a day > is certainly not uncommon (especially for me, I have the data to back that > up). If you only have an EV and you're limited on routes, you're in a bind. > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:20 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > The thing is, when you've been driving an EV for awhile, you realize that > (at least for most people) 200+ miles trips are such a small percentage of > driving, that never having to stop at a gas station the rest of the time is > a much bigger benefit. > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 2:08 PM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > wrote: > > > > > Who wants to charge their car every 90 minutes for 10 minutes at a time? > Time to burn some dust, eat my rubber! > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 2:48 PM Robert Andrews < i...@avantwireless.com > > wrote: > > > If you are doing a 300 mile trip, your stop at a supercharger for a > Model Y would be about 10 minutes to add another 150 miles, so that's > not bad when you would be stopping at a gas station for 10 minutes as > well. ( I haven't ever gotten out and put even 10 gallons in in less > that 7 minutes with using the card and all that, you don't do any of > that at a supercharger ) As far as towing is going, I think you will > see more and more of the Electric Airstream campers coming down the road > that have electric assist, to remove the range losses. There are used > EV's on the market and the only reason the prices are high is because > the demand is there, the prices will drop as more used ones hit the > market, but they will come with reduced range, which is a loss and a > gain because the rest of the drivetrain will have a lot more use than a > 60K+ ICE vehicle... So the only takeaway is that it's still a rapidly > evolving market, but the ICE builders already see the writing on the > wall New teslas come with integrated battery packs which I think is > going to be a problem in the future, but I am not going to be the one > dealing with that... > > On 2/14/22 11:15, Brian Webster wrote: > > Living in rural America I am not a fan of the range limitations. For me > > it's not u
Re: [AFMUG] IPV6
On Fri January 28 2022 09:20, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Does our C blocks of V4 have V6 automatically associated with them or do I > need to request V6 space? > > Sent from my iPhone No, you have to request V6 space. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Ot: Grounded blankets
Ah, the days of standing and holding the rabbit ears in a certain position so dad could finish watching his show. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu December 9 2021 15:22, Nate Burke wrote: > Will that also improve TV Reception? I remember having to sit in a > chair with my hands a certain way to keep the channel from being all > static. > > On 12/9/2021 3:14 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > I would do a copper mesh bathing suit for that. > > > > -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs > > Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 2:04 PM > > To: af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: Grounded blankets > > > > How you going to tend the bacon frying in the skillet while only wearing > > your b-day suit? > > > > On 12/9/21 09:55, Brian Webster wrote: > >> What about the static your naked requirement will generate from other > >> members of the household?. Empty nesters that should work fine but, > >> otherwise I would anticipate a lot of static. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Brian Webster > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > >> via AF > >> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 12:33 PM > >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > >> Cc: Chuck McCown > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: Grounded blankets > >> > >> Copper mesh couch cover and everyone is naked. That will work. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: dmmoff...@gmail.com > >> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:45 AM > >> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: Grounded blankets > >> > >> Bond the couch to master ground bus bar with #6 copper wire. Use dual > >> hole > >> lugs, sand the mating surfaces and apply no-ox. > >> Use same wire gauge to bond wife with couch. Location of wife's > >> ground lugs > >> > >> varies by model, but check bottom of feet. > >> > >> -Adam > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2021 6:23 PM > >> To: af@af.afmug.com > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: Grounded blankets > >> > >> Spray the couch with metallic paint. > >> > >> > >> bp > >> > >> > >> On 12/8/2021 3:12 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > >>> So we're back to the time of year when the wife gets zapped when she > >>> gets off the couch and the turns off a light, and complaining ensues. > >>> I've tried to get her to wear a grounded wrist strap, which works, but > >>> she complains about having to take it on and off. Can I just get a > >>> grounded blanket or something to just ground the couch? > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT breaking lent
So in your view the riots, burning, looting are ok but not the holding of them accountable. Wonder if it were your house or business (or families) if you would feel differently. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri November 19 2021 15:03, Bill Prince wrote: > No comments on the riots or lack thereof, but it seems to me that the young > twerp crossed state lines with a semi-automatic to be the self-appointed > "police", and as a result a couple of people died. If said young twerp had > stayed home and watched Chuck Norris on TV, maybe no one would have died, > and maybe a few windows might have been broken. > > I do not hold windows and lives as equivalent. > > > bp > > On 11/19/2021 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > Forgive me, but I want to make this comment: > > (I hope I don’t regret this) > > The news media seem heartbroken that there are not riots in Wisconsin. > > Using lots of phrases like: “pretty calm – AT THE MOMENT”. > Or “we are hunkered down in a safe place, prepared for violence”. > Or “Maybe there is a small number that want to get violent” > It appears to be calm there. I am hopeful people are sick of riots. > But the media are certainly not sick of them. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT question for the borg
Unless they broke or lost some parts in the process. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon November 15 2021 11:33, TJ Trout wrote: > It's pretty common to drop the drive line to tow but usually they reinstall > it > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 8:48 AM Jaime Solorza > > wrote: > > Get a good lawyer > > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 9:29 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >> I rent out equipment. > >> A contractor that rents a truck from me let his employee take it home. > >> He parked it at an apartment house either in someone elses spot or did > >> not register it with the apartment company. > >> It got towed. > >> I had to send paperwork to the towing company releasing it to the > >> contractor. > >> This morning, we learned they took off the driveline and will not put it > >> back on. > >> > >> I don’t think that is legal. They disabled it. They got paid for the > >> tow. They should restore it. > >> Unless someone can show me where they have the legal ability to do that, > >> I will probably bill them for the repair and then sue when they don’t > >> pay. > >> > >> Opinions? > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Mikrotik question
Ok, question for the borg: My research indicates that Mikrotik still does not support Virtual Tunnel Interfaces (VTI) even though its been out since around 2004 or so. We have a client, who's remote application vendor wants to do an ipsec tunnel using VTI - and our router onsite is a CCR-1036. Am I going to have to replace the onsite router or is there a way to do this that I am not seeing? -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fax line replacement
On Wed June 16 2021 09:29, Josh Luthman wrote: > If you love hearing from your customers > complaining about how many times they've attempted to fax a 732 page > document to Zimbabwe, avoid an email to fax service. Not FAX, but just had a conversation with a customer yesterday about an all-in-one printer, copier, fax, scanner. They were attempting to scan a 153 page document to email and it was failing. We manage their mail server for them (their box) so jumped in and : (1) the account they use for the scanner to connect and send email was over quota; (2) the server had probably ten active connections from the scanner in "wait" state because the scanner had a 90 second timer set on sending. Gotta love technology and the people that configure it. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Brake cleaner
Would think that compressed air would pack whatever was in there even worse. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Wed June 9 2021 11:07, Bill Prince wrote: > Yes. Air is bad for iPhones. > > > bp > > On 6/9/2021 7:26 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > No. I did the first time and it made it worse. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > > > Did you try air? Wondering if that would have forced the grease/dirt out > of the speaker hole. > > > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 9:26 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > Once again I got my iPhone speaker full of grease and dirt while pressure > washing. Almost lost all audio. Once again I hosed it out with liberal > quantities of brake cleaner. Works like new. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
Yes, he took a "vacation" but is back working now. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu May 6 2021 10:16, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Is Freeside the company Ivan supports? > > -Original Message- > From: Larry Smith > Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:15 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing > > On Thu May 6 2021 09:56, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us is > > that they don’t approve of our “products”. AKA internet service and that > > they are happy for us to be a QB customer... > > > > So, gonna get a stand alone billing system and just do a monthly journal > > entry to move over the revenue. > > > > Something cheap with the ability for the customer to pay with cards. > > Anything free out there that makes their money from the merchant > > percentage? I guess I don’t care if it is free, just the lowest overall > > cost to the company. > > > > Was platypus free? Used it for years at another company. I don’t need > > any > > management of my network just simple recurring billing. > > We are still using Freeside (that we picked up based on conversations with > them at a Wispa show in Vegas). Free unless you need a support contract > (which we do have). > > -- > Larry Smith > lesm...@ecsis.net > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
On Thu May 6 2021 09:56, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us is > that they don’t approve of our “products”. AKA internet service and that > they are happy for us to be a QB customer... > > So, gonna get a stand alone billing system and just do a monthly journal > entry to move over the revenue. > > Something cheap with the ability for the customer to pay with cards. > Anything free out there that makes their money from the merchant > percentage? I guess I don’t care if it is free, just the lowest overall > cost to the company. > > Was platypus free? Used it for years at another company. I don’t need any > management of my network just simple recurring billing. We are still using Freeside (that we picked up based on conversations with them at a Wispa show in Vegas). Free unless you need a support contract (which we do have). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?
Show them the difference. Explain it to them, how much each streaming device wants in terms of bandwidth, then upgrade them for 30 days. At the end of the 30 days drop them back to their paid for plan and let them decide. We have done this a few times and believe they always want to stay on the better plan - complain about paying more - but do it. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Wed April 28 2021 09:33, Craig House wrote: > Tell them to return the new 4k TV and use the money to upgrade plans. > > - Original Message - > From: "Nate Burke" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 9:22:57 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free? > > Every now and then you get a customer that just grinds your gears. > Customer has multiple streaming services, including Youtube TV, so they > have to be paying over $100/month for their OTT packages, but they > REFUSE to spend more than $35/month for our lowest grandfathered base > package, and continually complain about picture quality and buffering. > We've offered our higher packages, but 'I can't afford that' So we've > told them multiple times that they're not happy with us and they need to > switch to Comcast, but 'Comcast is too expensive' and 'I'm just a poor > teacher' Then they had the audacity to tell us 'I even went and bought > a new 4k Samsung smart TV thinking that would fix everything, but it's > all still grainy and still buffering!' Well, yes, it's maxing out your > plan speed. No matter how expensive of a TV you get it'll still have > that problem. I'm not sure what the problem is with upgrading their > package since apparently they can spend money on everything else. > > Not really looking for any answers, just need someone to gripe to since > I'm sitting here by myself this morning. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
they eat everything but the teeth so if you are taking the head the pigs will dispose of everything else. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Wed April 7 2021 10:07, Robert wrote: > I believe that the tradition was the pig stye... > > On 4/7/21 7:57 AM, David Coudron wrote: > > They make good fertilizer… > > > > Gardening season is just around the corner. Just saying….. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones > > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:53 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? > > > > i think a fair trade would be we will hand over 1 AR-15 for each pedo > > head delivered. They want the assault rifles off the streets, they > > bring pedo heads. > > > > I dont know what youre supposed to do with the bodies when you bring > > heads. Is is bad form to just leave them in a pile? > > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:20 AM Josh Luthman > > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: > > > > No. Don't give the government any more access to anything ever. > > > > We already identify pedos on Facebook and no one seems to give a > > shit. > > > > Josh Luthman > > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:08 PM Steve Jones > > mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Isnt that crazy? I wish they did the right thing and let the > > fbi pedo patrol take a peek at that user list and ip access list > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:38 PM Josh Luthman > > > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: > > > > > > https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyfa > >ns-debut-six-hours > > <https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyf > >ans-debut-six-hours> > > > > >$23.99 per month for access to exclusive photos and > > > > videos on her OnlyFans page > > > > Holy shit. That's 42k people in 6 hours. > > > > Josh Luthman > > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF > > mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: > > > > So, what does a subscriber to her channel get? Does > > she sing or get naked or what? > > > > *From:*Steve Jones > > > > *Sent:*Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM > > > > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? > > > > So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million > > bucks on onlyfans > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes > > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: > > > > I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. > > a clown show.. I'm > > not sure why we are doing that. > > > > On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: > > > By all means take any precaution you wish. > > > > People at risk should. But > > > > > don't impose your beliefs on others. If you see > > > > a non mask wearer - > > > > > stay away from them. Go ahead and live your life > > > > in fear. The way > > > > > things are going right now, this will never end. > > > > We tried your way, it > > > > > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the > > > > numbers. In fact it > > > > > bought the virus time to mutate and make things > > > > worse. > > > > > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need > > > > a bare minimum of a N95 > >
Re: [AFMUG] fiber followup crews
East of the Mississippi we seem to have more problems with moles than we do gophers. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu April 1 2021 10:39, Steve Jones wrote: > thats not out of the realm of possibility, it will probably be called a > snake or a gopher. but just expand and contract and push forward. Id put a > rattle on the end (for echolocating it) > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:32 AM Carl Peterson > > wrote: > > I'm working on training a crew of gophers to do the underground work for > > me. On a more serious note, with advances in battery tech and AI how > > long till we have robot gophers that can just do the underground work for > > us? Just drop em off by the side of each house in the morning and then > > pick them up at the ped at lunch. > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:37 PM Steve Jones > > > > wrote: > >> You're doing the microtrenching arent you? Through anthill tunnels and > >> sidewalk cracks > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 9:01 PM Chuck McCown via AF > >> > >> wrote: > >>> I am building fiber for Google in Salt Lake City. 100% underground. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Jason McKemie < > >>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Most of the drops around here are plowed in. The more urban you get > >>> the less that is the case I would imagine. > >>> > >>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, Steve Jones > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>>> I have to get out of fb jail, they only let me be active for a couple > >>>> days a month now. Sucks because they lock my work account too. > >>>> > >>>> I'm wondering how much dough is in it, I'm betting it's not a > >>>> tremendous payout, but I'm thinking it's a good way to get fast > >>>> experience running the equipment. > >>>> > >>>> Is much of the home drops drilled or is it mostly plowed in? The > >>>> outfit going through our home office town looks to be drilling > >>>> everything, but they run their own crews if I understand it correctly. > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021, 2:21 PM Josh Luthman > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> Generally contract work. Join the Drop Crew Nation facebook group. > >>>>> > >>>>> Josh Luthman > >>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH > >>>>>+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> Suite 1337 > >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH > >>>>>+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH > >>>>>+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 1:54 PM Steve Jones > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> These crews that come in to do the home drops after the providers > >>>>>> drop the cable across the yard. How does one end up on the list of > >>>>>> calls for that? do the bigger carriers have their own teams or do > >>>>>> they contract locally? > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> AF mailing list > >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> AF mailing list > >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>> > >>> AF mailing list > >>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> AF mailing list > >>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > > > Carl Peterson > > > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > > > (410) 637-3707 > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Question for the borg
Steve, No to both, at least now, not sure about earlier event. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue March 9 2021 18:19, Steve Jones wrote: > is romon or mactelnet enabled? > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 4:13 PM Larry Smith wrote: > > Adam, > > > > The first occurance last year, yes, they had access to the > > TIK. This time no, we completely manage the TIK and the > > radio. (they can connect to the tik wifi is all). > > > > -- > > Larry Smith > > lesm...@ecsis.net > > > > On Tue March 9 2021 14:28, Adam Moffett wrote: > > > Could be that. Does the customer have access to the mikrotik? > > > > > > On 3/9/2021 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > > > Really sounds like the hotspot package. > > > > > > > > Maybe proxy arp. > > > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > > Suite 1337 > > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 3:01 PM Larry Smith > > > <mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, have a strange situation that has repeated itself > > > > and I can come up with no answer. Customer behind > > > > an ePMP 1000, mikrotik HAP 52. Suddenly last night > > > > the ePMP radio went from 1 LAN MAC (the tik) to 43 > > > > (forthy-three) MACs, most of them a variation of the > > > > actual MAC of the TIK. At this time the TIK started > > > > grabbing (using) a swath of different IP, all part of > > > > our network (both public and private) but some of > > > > them not part of our wireless network. > > > > (EG the 100, 101, 102.X nets are part of our wireless > > > > but the 118.x network is not) > > > > > > > > Suspend ethernet on radio, wait 5, unsuspend and > > > > login to TIK, reboot, reboot radio. all normal again. > > > > (cannot get into tik without doing this). > > > > > > > > This happended to the same customer, on different > > > > private (radio) and public (tik) IP address in April 2020 > > > > at which time the radio had 94 MAC address on the LAN > > > > interface. At that time we installed a new ePMP and went > > > > from a 952 tik to the HAP 52 thinking one of them was the > > > > issue. > > > > > > > > Thoughts ? Suggestions we can look at ? > > > > > > > > PS: this customer is computer illerate and generally does > > > > exactly what the tech says to do and there is no other > > > > internet service at this location. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Larry Smith > > > > lesm...@ecsis.net <mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > AF mailing list > > > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Question for the borg
Adam, The first occurance last year, yes, they had access to the TIK. This time no, we completely manage the TIK and the radio. (they can connect to the tik wifi is all). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue March 9 2021 14:28, Adam Moffett wrote: > Could be that. Does the customer have access to the mikrotik? > > On 3/9/2021 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Really sounds like the hotspot package. > > > > Maybe proxy arp. > > > > Josh Luthman > > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 3:01 PM Larry Smith > <mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net>> wrote: > > > > > > Ok, have a strange situation that has repeated itself > > and I can come up with no answer. Customer behind > > an ePMP 1000, mikrotik HAP 52. Suddenly last night > > the ePMP radio went from 1 LAN MAC (the tik) to 43 > > (forthy-three) MACs, most of them a variation of the > > actual MAC of the TIK. At this time the TIK started > > grabbing (using) a swath of different IP, all part of > > our network (both public and private) but some of > > them not part of our wireless network. > > (EG the 100, 101, 102.X nets are part of our wireless > > but the 118.x network is not) > > > > Suspend ethernet on radio, wait 5, unsuspend and > > login to TIK, reboot, reboot radio. all normal again. > > (cannot get into tik without doing this). > > > > This happended to the same customer, on different > > private (radio) and public (tik) IP address in April 2020 > > at which time the radio had 94 MAC address on the LAN > > interface. At that time we installed a new ePMP and went > > from a 952 tik to the HAP 52 thinking one of them was the > > issue. > > > > Thoughts ? Suggestions we can look at ? > > > > PS: this customer is computer illerate and generally does > > exactly what the tech says to do and there is no other > > internet service at this location. > > > > -- > > Larry Smith > > lesm...@ecsis.net <mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net> > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Question for the borg
Here is what we are seeing on the LAN interface of the ePMP radio when this happened this morning. There were a few more but pulled just the ones "close" to the actual TIK MAC. First entry is the ACTUAL mikrotik MAC address: 744D285DB148 744D285DB158 744D3855B148 744D995DB148 744D285DB118 744D285DB448 744D2852B148 744D285DB188 744D285BB148 744D245DB148 744D885DB148 744F285DB148 740D285DB148 74CC285DB148 741D285DB148 744B285DB148 748D285DB148 74DD285DB148 7447285DB148 744D285DB148 744D225DB148 744D285DB548 744D285DB144 744D285DD148 744D285DB14B 744D289DB148 744D285FB148 744D285DBF48 -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue March 9 2021 15:22, Adam Moffett wrote: > The part messing with my head is that they're variations of the Mikrotik > MAC, and not the actual MAC of the interface. When it had 94 IP's did > it come up with 94 unique MAC addresses? > > On 3/9/2021 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Really sounds like the hotspot package. > > > > Maybe proxy arp. > > > > Josh Luthman > > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 3:01 PM Larry Smith > <mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net>> wrote: > > > > > > Ok, have a strange situation that has repeated itself > > and I can come up with no answer. Customer behind > > an ePMP 1000, mikrotik HAP 52. Suddenly last night > > the ePMP radio went from 1 LAN MAC (the tik) to 43 > > (forthy-three) MACs, most of them a variation of the > > actual MAC of the TIK. At this time the TIK started > > grabbing (using) a swath of different IP, all part of > > our network (both public and private) but some of > > them not part of our wireless network. > > (EG the 100, 101, 102.X nets are part of our wireless > > but the 118.x network is not) > > > > Suspend ethernet on radio, wait 5, unsuspend and > > login to TIK, reboot, reboot radio. all normal again. > > (cannot get into tik without doing this). > > > > This happended to the same customer, on different > > private (radio) and public (tik) IP address in April 2020 > > at which time the radio had 94 MAC address on the LAN > > interface. At that time we installed a new ePMP and went > > from a 952 tik to the HAP 52 thinking one of them was the > > issue. > > > > Thoughts ? Suggestions we can look at ? > > > > PS: this customer is computer illerate and generally does > > exactly what the tech says to do and there is no other > > internet service at this location. > > > > -- > > Larry Smith > > lesm...@ecsis.net <mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net> > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Question for the borg
Thought so too, no hotspot, no proxy arp on any interface. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue March 9 2021 14:07, Josh Luthman wrote: > Really sounds like the hotspot package. > > Maybe proxy arp. > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 3:01 PM Larry Smith wrote: > > Ok, have a strange situation that has repeated itself > > and I can come up with no answer. Customer behind > > an ePMP 1000, mikrotik HAP 52. Suddenly last night > > the ePMP radio went from 1 LAN MAC (the tik) to 43 > > (forthy-three) MACs, most of them a variation of the > > actual MAC of the TIK. At this time the TIK started > > grabbing (using) a swath of different IP, all part of > > our network (both public and private) but some of > > them not part of our wireless network. > > (EG the 100, 101, 102.X nets are part of our wireless > > but the 118.x network is not) > > > > Suspend ethernet on radio, wait 5, unsuspend and > > login to TIK, reboot, reboot radio. all normal again. > > (cannot get into tik without doing this). > > > > This happended to the same customer, on different > > private (radio) and public (tik) IP address in April 2020 > > at which time the radio had 94 MAC address on the LAN > > interface. At that time we installed a new ePMP and went > > from a 952 tik to the HAP 52 thinking one of them was the > > issue. > > > > Thoughts ? Suggestions we can look at ? > > > > PS: this customer is computer illerate and generally does > > exactly what the tech says to do and there is no other > > internet service at this location. > > > > -- > > Larry Smith > > lesm...@ecsis.net > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Question for the borg
Ok, have a strange situation that has repeated itself and I can come up with no answer. Customer behind an ePMP 1000, mikrotik HAP 52. Suddenly last night the ePMP radio went from 1 LAN MAC (the tik) to 43 (forthy-three) MACs, most of them a variation of the actual MAC of the TIK. At this time the TIK started grabbing (using) a swath of different IP, all part of our network (both public and private) but some of them not part of our wireless network. (EG the 100, 101, 102.X nets are part of our wireless but the 118.x network is not) Suspend ethernet on radio, wait 5, unsuspend and login to TIK, reboot, reboot radio. all normal again. (cannot get into tik without doing this). This happended to the same customer, on different private (radio) and public (tik) IP address in April 2020 at which time the radio had 94 MAC address on the LAN interface. At that time we installed a new ePMP and went from a 952 tik to the HAP 52 thinking one of them was the issue. Thoughts ? Suggestions we can look at ? PS: this customer is computer illerate and generally does exactly what the tech says to do and there is no other internet service at this location. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Modern software companies....
I keep a crowbar handy... (for multiple purposes)... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon February 8 2021 12:20, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Ah, the fun of modern software and business technology…. > > One coder can create a platform, sell it as software-as-a-service and hire > 500 barely trained droids to sell and service it.It works great as long > as you don’t want anything done that isn’t on the script the droids are > drooling on while typing. > > Combine this with non-technical people who believe the aforementioned > droids when they promise the world, and you have massive aggravation. > > It’s hard to figure out who to be mad at when this happens.There is so > little knowledge these days about how the technology around us actually > works that it’s hard to be mad at the people who just accept what the > droids tell them. And the droids are just poorly trained wetware. > > I fear for the day we all starve because someone can’t figure out how to > get the refrigerator door to open…. > > Mark -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy Birthday Lewis Bergman
On Mon February 1 2021 09:45, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Enjoy your day Happy Birthday. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT - McDonalds Oreo Spam burger
On Wed December 23 2020 09:52, Ken Hohhof wrote: > And I guess there’s cheese fries. Not to mention cheesy tots. chilli-cheese fries are the bomb... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Offnet SIP and Multi-homing
Hmmm, why would that not be a NAT problem. Translation tables are built based on TO and FROM packets - so a change in either means the packet is not part of an established translation and gets dropped. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu December 3 2020 18:32, Nate Burke wrote: > I don't think it's a NAT problem, as the only thing I change is my > upstream routing. The Handset is connected via WIFI to my 4g hotspot it > goes from not working to working just by changing the BGP Announcement. > It's like one of the internet paths is dropping the traffic as rogue > traffic because the other direction of the packet didn't flow through them. > > I'm seeing the packet leave my network, it's just never getting to the > destination until the inbound traffic is over the same provider. > > On 12/3/2020 6:22 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > There is such a tool. There is a lower capability free version and a > > paid version. VoIPMonitor <https://www.voipmonitor.org/> > > Tough to say what might be going on. On the face it seems like the re > > invite doesn't know where to go as there is no NAT table connection > > entry from that port to the internal IP. > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: > > > > I used to think SIP was OK. I even helped GenBand (or whatever > > the Northern > > Telecom manufacturer was called after they were Northern Telecom ) > > fix their > > SIP stack. Took a ton of wire sharking and deep packet inspection > > but they > > had a fault. > > > > But I have forgotten everything I ever knew about SIP. I am sure > > there is > > someone that makes a SIP tool the is like wire shark but decodes > > things into > > a much more easy to read format and then is able to launch SIP > > packets > > too... but too lazy to see if one exists. A SIP simulator, or > > spoofer or > > stingray type of box. > > > > Needs to be made out of metal and have buttons, lights and meters > > on it. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ken Hohhof > > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:57 PM > > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Offnet SIP and Multi-homing > > > > I thought re-invites were used to get the media stream to flow > > directly > > between the endpoints and bypass the PBX. > > > > And if you took out the asymmetric routing, the other symptoms > > would make me > > think it's a NAT traversal or SIP ALG problem in the customer's > > router. But > > with the dependency on how the traffic flows over the Internet, I > > haven't a > > clue. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: AF > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Nate Burke > > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:18 PM > > To: Animal Farm mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > > Subject: [AFMUG] Offnet SIP and Multi-homing > > > > I'm trying to track down a strange Issue I'm having, and wondering > > if anyone > > has run into something similar. > > > > I have a couple customers that I let take phone handsets home, the > > Grandstream PBX is at our office. It seems that if the SIP > > traffic comes in > > one upstream, but leaves another upstream, really weird things > > happen. > > > > The Phone registers to the PBX just fine, and can receive calls > > all day > > long, it just cannot make calls. If I take a /24 and force it to > > enter and > > leave the network via the same provider, then everything works > > fine. Those > > of you that have multiple diverse paths, have you seen something > > like this? > > The Call in UDP Mode fails, the call in TCP mode will succeed. > > > > This only appears to be an issue with the handset talking to the PBX. > > All of our Sip Trunk traffic (Voip Innovations) works just fine. > > For some > > reason the handset SIP re-invite never makes it back to the > > handset when > > multi-homing is in place. > > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Lewis Bergman > > 325-439-0533 Cell -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Where does the money go?
On Wed November 18 2020 10:36, Nate Burke wrote: > Genuine question, I always here about Millions/Billions of Dollars being > spent on Elections. Where does that money go? $14B spent on the last > election. Is there a new billionaire somewhere relaxing on his yacht now? > > I understand most goes to advertising. So that's like what, 6 > networks/corporations. But I don't' remember hearing anything about > 'Media company posts record profits this quarter' It's like the money > just disappears, never to be heard about again, and the poor media > companies are barely making ends meet. Our local (podunk) Election office gave ink pens, popcicle sticks, stickers, and postits this year. Their reasoning was everyone had their own pen so no one needed to touch theirs, the popcicle stick was for pushing the buttons (did not work well) and the stickers and postits were just fluff. Had to cost something for all that... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] IRR
On Wed November 18 2020 10:31, Matt Hoppes wrote: > Can someone explain to me a little more of what IRR is on ARIN IP > blocks? Traditionally our upstreams have registered the IRR for us, how > do we register the IRR ourselves? The IRR is simply a way to manage your IP blocks without having to regularly send in updates, changes, etc (via their manual forms) to the ARIN. Once you have an IRR server online, and your IP blocks entered and labeled (hopefuly correctly), you just notify ARIN of the IRR server name and IP and they will test it, then (believe) they let you know that it is "up" within their system. Draw back of this (from my perspective) is that from then forward, the ARIN also redirects all "whois" IP queries for your IP blocks to your server so you stand a chance of getting quite a few queries. Been running our own IRR here since about 97, or 98 I think. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Brigham Young University's Internet Measurement and Anti-Abuse Laboratory
At this point in time I have absolutely zero ipv6 in my network and yes, it is filtered (completely) at my border. And most definitely none of my DNS servers are listening on v6. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue October 13 2020 10:18, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > I believe this was specific to IPv6. Are you sure you are filtering IPv6 > and not just IPv4? > > Mark > > > On Oct 13, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Larry Smith wrote: > > > > Hm, got one yesterday, then three more this morning. > > They appear to be going down my AS contact list - one this morning > > was to "abuse". They are now blocked here. > > > > All four advertising their DSAV - Destination-Side Source Address > > Validation. > > > > And I have had filters blocking my IP from outside my network for over 20 > > years. Also block anything leaving my network that is not my IP (and log > > it). > > > > -- > > Larry Smith > > lesm...@ecsis.net > > > > On Mon October 12 2020 22:57, John Osmon wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 05:49:18PM -0400, Mark - Myakka Technologies > >> wrote: [...] > >> > >>> I can not think of any > >>> valid reason for someone to spoof my IP on incoming packets. > >> > >> There are some asymmetrical cases where you may see your own addresses > >> coming in over an edge router. Most of them are solved better with > >> VPNs, but they do exist. > >> > >> There are few cases anymore where not following BCP38 is required... > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Brigham Young University's Internet Measurement and Anti-Abuse Laboratory
Hm, got one yesterday, then three more this morning. They appear to be going down my AS contact list - one this morning was to "abuse". They are now blocked here. All four advertising their DSAV - Destination-Side Source Address Validation. And I have had filters blocking my IP from outside my network for over 20 years. Also block anything leaving my network that is not my IP (and log it). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon October 12 2020 22:57, John Osmon wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 05:49:18PM -0400, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > [...] > > > I can not think of any > > valid reason for someone to spoof my IP on incoming packets. > > There are some asymmetrical cases where you may see your own addresses > coming in over an edge router. Most of them are solved better with > VPNs, but they do exist. > > There are few cases anymore where not following BCP38 is required... -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Hurricane Electric BGP Toolkit
I always like BGP Play (http://bgplay.routeviews.org) for seeing where my prefixs are going. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu October 1 2020 08:24, Matt Hoppes wrote: > 23.130.17.0/24 is one of them. > > On 10/1/20 9:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > IRRs, RPKI, etc. > > > > What are the problem prefixes? > > > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComp > >utingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computi > >ng-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange > > <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midw > >est-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP > > <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > > > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" > > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > > *Sent: *Thursday, October 1, 2020 8:19:36 AM > > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Hurricane Electric BGP Toolkit > > > > Maybe someone on this list can shed some light on what I'm seeing. > > > > When I look at our AS through HE BGP Toolkit I see a total of 6 IP > > blocks being advertised: > > https://bgp.he.net/AS17177#_prefixes > > > > However, we have about 3 more that are also being advertised *and > > working* that are not showing up in this list. What would cause that? > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions
Yea, that's the regular stuff, I use the STA-BIL 22239 which is labeled Marine Fuel Stabilizer. Seems to work better in environments with lots of water. Either work just about as well I am sure, main thing with ethanol based fuel is that you use one (stabilizer). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon September 21 2020 15:23, Josh Luthman wrote: > We do put fuel stabil in it. Looks like this: > https://www.walmart.com/ip/STA-BIL-22208-Storage-Fuel-Stabilizer-8-fl-oz/16 >879745?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=1410&&adid=227019318 >115&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42529873352&wl4=aud-834279576166:pla-81187482992&wl >5=9015806&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=16879745&veh=s >em&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnqH7BRDdARIsACTSAduVLGNkTKxISk3QDHRBZ32cOrZ-mhsFE5F8b5RgSj5 >xVYUhZubqhZ4aApp1EALw_wcB > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:09 PM TJ Trout wrote: > > back when gas wasn't cut with corn and it didn't go bad anyway =) all of > > the stabilization products worked great > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:39 PM wrote: > >> There used to be a product for airplanes. Prist or something like that. > >> Supposedly the best. But that was back in the 1970s... > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Larry Smith > >> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:36 PM > >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions > >> > >> I have learned to almost love Sta-BIL 360 Marine fuel stabilizer. > >> Use it in our golf cart, boat, motorcycles, lawn mowers, anything > >> that can (and likely) does sit for any period of time with ethanol > >> fuel in it. It seems to actually work. > >> > >> -- > >> Larry Smith > >> lesm...@ecsis.net > >> > >> On Mon September 21 2020 13:20, Adam Moffett wrote: > >> > Yeahengine maintenance on a generator is skipped more often than > >> > not. Go ahead and pay extra for the synthetic oil because you have to > >> > admit to yourself that you're not going to remember to change it. > >> > Also after the outage just let it run until the tank is empty because > >> > realistically you aren't going to drain and replace the fuel either. > >> > > >> > On 9/21/2020 2:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> > > Generators often sit with stale fuel in them, get overdue for oil > >> > > changes, etc. > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions
I have learned to almost love Sta-BIL 360 Marine fuel stabilizer. Use it in our golf cart, boat, motorcycles, lawn mowers, anything that can (and likely) does sit for any period of time with ethanol fuel in it. It seems to actually work. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon September 21 2020 13:20, Adam Moffett wrote: > Yeahengine maintenance on a generator is skipped more often than > not. Go ahead and pay extra for the synthetic oil because you have to > admit to yourself that you're not going to remember to change it. Also > after the outage just let it run until the tank is empty because > realistically you aren't going to drain and replace the fuel either. > > On 9/21/2020 2:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Generators often sit with stale fuel in them, get overdue for oil > > changes, etc. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions
We had to set the sensitivity (sp?) setting on all our APC UPS to medium (drop from default of HIGH) or they would not accept the generator current (would stay on battery). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon September 21 2020 09:43, Ken Hohhof wrote: > 110v at the generator or the other end of the 175 feet of 10 AWG wire? > > > > And total load is 5-6 amps each including the UPS charging the batteries? > What kind of UPS? Something like an APC will have a relatively low > charging current, other setups may be quite a bit higher. I know our Alpha > UPS units have programmable charging current and I had to lower it in case > the only generator I have available is our smallest Honda 1000 VA, > otherwise the generator would run for a minute or two and then trip on > overload. > > > > Doing the math on voltage drop in the wire, 10 AWG is around 1 ohm per 1000 > feet, and you have 350 feet of wire including hot and neutral. So 0.35 ohm > times 5.5 amps is 2 volts. Assuming the generator is putting out 120 > volts, that wouldn’t account for a 10 volt drop. > > > > Sounds like you suspect the generator can’t handle the load and as a result > is putting out low voltage. > > > > What kind of generator is this? Is it an inverter style? What is the VA > rating? If it’s just a standard generator for power tools and stuff, a UPS > will sometimes find the voltage or frequency out of spec or unstable and > refuse to run off it. If it’s just an APC UPS or something like that, > sometimes they have a sensitivity setting that you can set lower. > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 9:22 AM > To: AFMUG > Subject: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions > > > > So Friday we have another 3 phase go down in the building. They unplugged > it all so that wing had nothing. > > > > As a precaution I start up the generator. When they're cutting the other > phases we are using I move it to the generator. The generator complains > and the UPS units don't switch over. I drop it to say 90% open choke and > the UPS switches over - but it's only 110v. I'd like to know what's going > on here. > > > > I have 175 feet of 10 gauge (times 2). Two circuits on the generator, two > runs of copper, two UPS. UPS is doing about 5-6 amps each. > > > What can I do better? Should I? It runs but I'd like to keep it as simple > as possible to avoid "teaching someone" to lower it from full open choke. > > > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Six hours? I am not laughing...
On Mon August 24 2020 16:41, Jaime Solorza wrote: > My granddaughter Juju is not a happy First Grader...she wants my daughter > to be her teacher and not the online one!! When I saw the picture, it took > me back to her mother's school days!! That look! o, she is not happy. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT. Simple but awesome
Three over easy eggs on top of three buttermilk pancakes. Slice it all up with hash browns, side of sawmill gravy, lots of pepper and chow down... yum yum... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Sat August 15 2020 12:17, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > I would have had to send the eggs back for more cooking... > > From: Jaime Solorza > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 11:08 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: [AFMUG] OT. Simple but awesome > > Papas con Chorizo.. > > > --- >- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] billing again
On Fri August 14 2020 10:44, Cameron Crum wrote: > Ivan (Freeside) has not been around for a few years. Not sure > what happened to him, but he quit coming to the Wisp trade shows and stuff. > But, Freeside is "free" if you can get it set up with the ambiguous > instructions, or you can pay a "support" contract, but his main dev/support > guy Jeremy went to work for Matt Larson a couple years ago. I really don't > know if Ivan even still maintains stuff or not. Last word I got was that Ivan had some personal issues but was getting things settled/organized and would be back to taking care of things "soon". -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Geothermal Power Quality
Possibly like our UPS, we have to change all of them from HIGH sensitivity to MEDIUM or they will not accept the generator power due I believe to the shape of the square wave on input (or lack there of). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri August 14 2020 09:05, Mike Hammett wrote: > My brother has a geothermal heating\cooling system. The primary reason he > got a generator was to run the geothermal system. > > > The people that sold the geothermal system to him told him that he > shouldn't run the geothermal system on the generator. > > > Why would this be? > > > Could he purchase a line conditioner of some sort to clean the power before > it gets to the geothermal system? > > > > > > > I'm not sure of the size, but it's one of those Bobcat portable > welder\generators and he hooks it up to a transfer switch at the meter for > his farm. > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Chrome "Deceptive Site Ahead"
On Thu August 13 2020 13:28, Adam Moffett wrote: > When Chrome users visit a customer's web server they're getting this > "Deceptive Site Ahead" warning. It's not really my problem, but I want > to help the guy if I can. Honestly theirs nothing obviously wrong with > the site, except he provides a B2B service for other companies and they > often intentionally make the page look like *their* customer's web > page. Is that sufficient to trigger this, or is there something > specific Google is looking for? Typically this is an infected (contains malware) site. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Ot: illinois boiled eggs 14 minutes
Google "egg perfect timer", loads come up. Amazon, ebay, walmart. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu August 13 2020 09:28, Chuck McCown wrote: > I don’t see the product you mention. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 13, 2020, at 6:33 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > > wrote: > > > > > > I quit timing in minutes when I discovered one of the egg timers pictured > > below. > > > > Throw it in the pot in cold water with the eggs and boil until the color > > changes appropriately for the style of eggs you want. Since I like hard > > boiled it's just until all the red has changed to a darker color. > > > > My only gripe has been that these tend to separate and fail at the gauge > > after a certain number of uses. The last one I got though has more > > detailed instructions which says not to shock the timer in cold water > > after cooking, so I'll see if removing it before the cold water bath > > helps, since I could see how rapid cooling might cause too much strain. > > > > And I peel under briskly running semi cold water and never have a problem > > peeling. I think the water gets between the shell and the rest of the > > egg and helps with the removal. > > > >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 12:14 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> The holy grail is one tiny spot of “gel” in the center of the yolk. And > >> of course no green. I do not like green eggs, Sam I Am. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:30 AM > >> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: illinois boiled eggs 14 minutes > >> > >> > >> > >> But are they truly hard boiled? I want mine totally non-gel in they > >> yolk. Yellow, crumbly. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: James Howard > >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 10:12 AM > >> > >> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > >> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: illinois boiled eggs 14 minutes > >> > >> > >> > >> We do instant pot but 5 min, then 5 min before release and then 5 min in > >> ice water. We’ve done as many as 6 doz in the 8quart instant pot all at > >> once. Never had eggs that pealed so easy. We mostly do fresh eggs but > >> sometimes if the chickens aren’t keeping up there could be some from the > >> store (mostly for Easter eggs since most of our chickens lay brown eggs > >> so we buy white for the kids to color). If you like the eggs softer, > >> you do 4 min on the cook then 5 and 5. I’ll have to try Lewis’ 6 min > >> then quick release to see how it compares. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: AF On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 4:20 AM > >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: illinois boiled eggs 14 minutes > >> > >> > >> > >> Just to screw with you, I cook mine in the instapot for 6 minutes, rapid > >> steam release. All other details are the same. Good job Steve. You can > >> now die happy knowing your life has been well lived. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 9:07 PM Steve Jones > >> wrote: > >> > >> So for 3 years now, all times of year, multiple brands, farm fresh and > >> store bought, its officially settled. > >> > >> Boil water to rolling boil > >> > >> Using a ladle drop eggs in gently to not crack them > >> > >> Boil 14 minutes, 11 for semi soft boiled > >> > >> The colder the quench water the better the peel > >> > >> If the quench isnt ice cold, drop back into boil for 30 seconds to steam > >> separate the shell. > >> > >> > >> > >> The science is settled once and for all, this is hard city water in an > >> aluminum pot. Anywhere between a half gallon and gallon and a half, > >> anywhere between 6 and 36 eggs. > >> > >> > >> > >> Perfect yellow yolk, zero green. 14 minutes after the first egg is > >> ladled in. > >> > >> > >> > >> The quench is key for peelability. > >> > >> > >> > >> I havent left themninnthe quench for more than a couple minutes, too > >> long and I bet the inner shell is saturated, may peel better, but will > >> proba
Re: [AFMUG] OT Political and I should probably not post this
And to stir the pot a little: Add to all this the government restriction on evictions, which I understand is also ending soon, so those that squandered their extra money are going to be hauling that 90" tv around in the back of their civic. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu August 6 2020 10:33, Lewis Bergman wrote: > A lot of this has to do with the employer as well right? > > Another anecdotal story so be patient but it is a real one. My wife has a > little part time job at a jewelry store called James Avery. They sell cheap > silver stuff I think. She likes it and it only costs me about $100 a month > for her to work there. When retail was shut down they eventually laid > everyone off. Supposedly they also file unemployment for her. No idea if > she ever got it but they said they did. I don't think she ever got the $600 > a week or whatever but again, I have no idea. After a few weeks they opened > and asked her to come back which she did. I would assume that if she had > refused (so she could collect her extra $600 a week from the feds) that is > a valid reason to suspend her unemployment and JA would have challenged > that. I know I would have. > > A job offered that you used to perform and refused is a valid reason to > suspend benefits. So once your benefit is suspended what do you do? Go back > to work. If you worked for me, you would have to go get a job somewhere > else because I am not hiring you back but you still have to go find a job > somewhere or your lifestyle starts to rapidly change. > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:16 AM Carl Peterson > > wrote: > > I just skimmed it but I think the TLDR on it is that since UI varies by > > state etc you can compare return to work rates for people making more and > > less then they used to and it seems they return to work at similar rates. > > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:10 AM Carl Peterson > > > > > > wrote: > >> Pretty sure unemployment is taxed like ordinary income at the federal > >> level. State by state varies. I think your numbers are assuming it > >> isn't taxed? > >> > >> Yale did a study on this. > >> > >> CARES-UI_identification_vF(1).pdf > >> (2,000K) > >> > >> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=65db33fe01&attid=0.1&permmsgid > >>=msg-a:r4257579253290864261&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=f_kdixrue20> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:59 AM wrote: > >>> But at the risk of starting another brush fire... but I want to know: > >>> > >>> People laid of in Utah get unemployment benefits. I work hard to > >>> prevent those getting charged to me. But I know that the rates paid > >>> are $496/week max. That is Utah. > >>> So $12.40/hour take home. Equivalent to much more gross. Probably in > >>> the $17/hour range gross. > >>> > >>> Then if I understand it right, the feds were adding $600/week on top of > >>> that? $1096/week? $56,992 annual rate. Take home. Equivalent to > >>> perhaps $80K gross? > >>> > >>> So a laid off bartender gets the equivalent of $40/hour to sit at home, > >>> why would they want to work? The press and libs in congress have been > >>> freaking out about the conservatives saying the fat benefit package is > >>> an incentive to not try to work. I believe that to be true. Why would > >>> anyone work if they get that much for drinking beer and playing video > >>> games? > >>> > >>> Do I have this right? Does the fed benefit add to the state benefit? > >>> > >>> I have a son that lived on $1000/month for years while in college. He > >>> said he didn’t feel the pinch too much. Had roommates. Had a part > >>> time job. Never asked me for money. > >>> -- > >>> AF mailing list > >>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Way too easy
Jacksonville, Florida, June 18th -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Sun July 26 2020 10:13, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > I remember the article, thought it was in Mexico. > > From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:04 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Way too easy > > Didn’t somebody post awhile back news of a couple phone company > electricians being shot and killed at a cell site? I wonder if they > encountered a thief? You’d like to think nobody would get killed over a > router though. > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:44 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Way too easy > > > > I have found the locks at tower sites set to the last 4 digits of the phone > number posted on the sign on the gate. > > Also, may of those gold colored master 4 digit combo locks have their combo > dialed into them of they are open. Many techs will open the gate and hang > the lock on the gate or fence or leave it dangling on the chain. Anyone > can go take a quick glance at the lock and now they have the combo. You > cannot spin the dials on many of them if they are open. > > > > From: Ken Hohhof > > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 8:25 AM > > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Way too easy > > > > Tower sites almost always have combination locks not keys, and the tower > leasing companies often use the same combination everywhere. They may have > multiple locks like one for Sprint one for Verizon one for the electric > company etc. but I’ll bet those are the same across the network also. I’ve > even encountered different tower leasing companies that use the same > combination. > > > > I’ve never had access to a cell company shelter, but what do you want to > bet those don’t have unique combinations either. > > > > Also most towers have a sign saying it has security cameras. Many don’t > have cameras, just a sign. > > > > Most of the people accessing cell sites seem to be contractors, from the > crews that install the equipment to the guys maintaining the HVAC and > generators and filters and bait stations and cutting the grass and spraying > Roundup to keep the weeds down. Many people know the combinations. > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 11:07 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Way too easy > > > > You cant stop a thief with the keys. But I bet some bureaucrat somewhere > pushes a bill to "make sure this can never happen again" that will > ultimately make things worse. > > At least this wasn't a copper thief, those guys destroy everything, this is > just a matter of a router drop and dumping a backup config, easy peasy. > > I'm surprised bigger companies dont have cameras > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 7:07 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > > http://wirelessestimator.com/articles/2020/arrest-made-following-theft-of-s >print-network-routers-that-took-down-carriers-service-in-texas/ > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > --- >- > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > --- >- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Thanks Lewis!
Wouldn't mind one myself - even though Tennessee is not that close... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri July 24 2020 09:34, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Oh neighborkind of.(Texas is kind of big state) ...I would enjoy having > one of those... > gracias > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 7:59 AM Lewis Bergman > > wrote: > > That's what I figured. I have 3 more if you want them. > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 7:37 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > >> It must be getting it via tv channel meta data. There is no other > >> connection. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> I don't know who the current guide provider is, but Channel Master has > >> had issues in the past. It used to say down at the bottom of the program > >> guide who the provider was. > >> > >> > >> bp > >> > >> > >> > >> On 7/23/2020 8:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >> > >> That Channel Master OTA receiver works fantastic! I wonder where it > >> gets the data for the on screen guide? > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] customer to English dictionary
We haven't touched anything = my son/daughter/cousin staying with us wanted faster internet so they moved the router into their room and now nothing works. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu July 23 2020 10:22, Nate Burke wrote: > 'Connection has been Unusable for several days' = Normal streaming > patterns until an hour ago. > > 'I don't know why the radio is offline' = > Self/husband/child/pet/landscaper cut the cable outside. > > 'It just stopped working' = new roof was installed > > On 7/23/2020 8:23 AM, Ron M. wrote: > > "The internet is down" = I can't get to my one specific > > (blog/porn/political/etc) website. I can get to everything else, just > > not that one site. > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:17 AM Josh Luthman > > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: > > > > "I've got nothing" = My DirectTV doesn't work, but my cell phone > > works, husbands phone and tablet works, all four kids are watching > > 2 video streams each > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 AM Steve Jones > > mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I've had old men start reading the label on the poe to me and > > it takes a bit to understand what they're telling me cause I > > cant even see most of it. Amazing to me. > > > > Also > > > > Right next to the router: 3 rooms over through a refrigerator > > behind a tv. > > > > says your internet is too slow: > > Patel, I mean Roy from tech support doesnt even know what the > > service is he is supporting > > > > I didnt touch anything since it was installed: I moved every > > wire and managed to make my cordless phone power supply cord > > fit in the router > > > > That's the way your techs left it: I am a liar > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:01 PM Adam Moffett > > mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Modem = a box with blinky lights. > > > > Router = a box with blinky lights. > > > > Hub = a box with blinky lights. > > > > Switch = a box with blink lights. > > > > You don't know what it is until they read the words on it > > and tell you it's the Linksy. > > > > On 7/22/2020 6:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> I think we need one. For example, > >> > >> Satellite = antenna (e.g. you put a satellite on my roof) > >> > >> Cable = TV (e.g. where do I plug in the cable) > >> > >> WiFi = Internet > >> > >> Booster = range extender > >> > >> Linsky = router (also Link System) > >> > >> Slow as dialup = meaningless, nobody remembers dialup > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT - political
+100 On Mon July 20 2020 11:04, Brian Webster wrote: > In Portland part of the protest and occupy movement protesters were trying > to camp out in a FEDERAL PARK downtown. This attempt to occupy federal > property has not happened in other cities that I am aware of and hence the > different agencies involved. That Park director requested more federal law > enforcement help in getting the people off the park grounds and not allow > them to camp there. This was not a case of the black helicopters coming and > federal officers taking over local law enforcement authority from the > locals. If was Federal Law Enforcement protecting federal property. In ALL > law enforcement agencies it is not unusual for plain clothes officers, > detectives etc. to have unmarked vehicles and use them when making arrests. > This is hardly unusual police activity if you look at the whole picture. > Local law enforcement does this type of thing all of the time. If these > federal officers had identified people who committed a crime on federal > property and then fled, they are within their law enforcement powers to > directly pursue and apprehend them even if the apprehension is not on > federal property. Local and state officers have the same powers. It's not > typically used but it's not unheard of for say a police officer to pursue > someone who they believe has committed a felony and cross a state line. > That officer is fully empowered to make that arrest in the other state. It > has happened many times and the laws have been upheld to allow for this. > There are also still the power to effect a citizen's arrest as well. Nobody > likes to do it because it gets messy legally after the fact but that is > still allowed in this country. > > Before people get outraged at what the press is telling them is happening, > they should take a step back and gather their own facts and knowledge and > not be so quick to accept some "experts" statements. You all know how bad a > journalist can butcher up a technical article on stuff we do and work with, > what makes us think they are any smarter in the field of law or medicine? > > https://kval.com/news/local/police-remove-occupy-portland-campers-from-park >?fbclid=IwAR0dSQqKXj_ikwqmSfvMvvPtOVoFVhGjwrH126Lhiomx3iZXlxTUGtT2S7E > > "This morning, at request and at the lead of the US Federal Protective > Service, the Portland Police helped remove campers at Shrunk Plaza, which > is federal property across the street from Chapman Square," Adams wrote. > "The campers who were arrested - an estimated 8 to 10 people - at Shrunk > Plaza were detained by federal police and cited under US federal law. > Initial reports indicate arrests were completed in a peaceful manner." > > > > Thank you, > Brian Webster > > > -Original Message- > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 11:41 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > I don't think I'd like it if Obama had dispatched federal troops to > "Republican-led cities" claiming they are stupidly and conservatively run. > > It also doesn't make me comfortable having Ken Cuccinelli driving this. > Not a guy who should have the power to send troops to your city for > political reasons, or any reason. Andy Taylor would make him keep his one > bullet in his shirt pocket. > > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Larry Smith > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 10:20 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > The US Border Patrol is a part of the Immigration and Naturalization > Service. > > -- > Larry Smith > lesm...@ecsis.net > > On Mon July 20 2020 10:14, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I thought I read they admitted to being Customs & Border Patrol, at > > least in Portland. But yes other reports say that a force was > > assembled from various federal agencies so maybe also US Marshals. > > > > > > > > They have been using border patrol in questionable ways for awhile, > > like setting up roadblocks on highways hundreds of miles from any border. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:56 AM > > To: af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > > > > > > > The National Guard is a state resource. I think he can request it, but > > I'm not sure he can command it. > > > > What I read, they were US Marshals, and other unidentified federal > > resources. > > > > bp > > &
Re: [AFMUG] OT - political
The US Border Patrol is a part of the Immigration and Naturalization Service. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon July 20 2020 10:14, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I thought I read they admitted to being Customs & Border Patrol, at least > in Portland. But yes other reports say that a force was assembled from > various federal agencies so maybe also US Marshals. > > > > They have been using border patrol in questionable ways for awhile, like > setting up roadblocks on highways hundreds of miles from any border. > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:56 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > > > The National Guard is a state resource. I think he can request it, but I'm > not sure he can command it. > > What I read, they were US Marshals, and other unidentified federal > resources. > > bp > > > > On 7/20/2020 7:41 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Yeah, you gotta wonder what their orders were. > > Doesn’t a president normally activate the National Guard when extra help is > needed? > > These guys were – what? Homeland Security? ICE? > > > > From: Jaime Solorza > > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > > > Hitler tactics by Bunker Boy...there , I said it. > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 2:49 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > > wrote: > > Not trying to break lent, but I am lacking understanding. > > > > What are the young white kids rioting about in Portland? > > > > I am from Oregon, I remember protests in the 60s and 70s over Vietnam. > I also remember a line of State Police walking through a park downtown and > busting heads of those that did not clear out. Actually one of my first > telco bosses had been one of those State Bull Cops. > > > > Are young white kids just aching for a chance at anarchy? I don’t get it. > > Misbehaving while trying to wrap some kind of noble cause around you is > pretty childish. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > _ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Federated Wireless SAS outage?
Cloudflare had a major issue lasting about 30 minutes -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri July 17 2020 16:47, Joe Novak wrote: > whatever just blipped on the internet probably caused it, > authoritative servers at Cloudflare maybe? It's appears to be working again > here via Comcast and work. > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 4:44 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > TTL on DNS record is 1 minute. Serial number is 1 which seems strange. > > > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke > > *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2020 4:37 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Federated Wireless SAS outage? > > > > > > > > Cloud.cambiumnetworks.com is working fine for me. I'm resolving to > > us-east-1-rtr-1-578252723.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com [18.213.196.79] > > > > On 7/17/2020 4:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > > > Actually, I can’t get DNS resolution for cloud.cambiumnetworks.com. Even > > at my home which is not on my network. > > > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf > > Of *Ken Hohhof via AF > > *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2020 4:32 PM > > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > > > *Cc:* Ken Hohhof > > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Federated Wireless SAS outage? > > > > > > > > Anyone else experiencing SAS not reachable errors? > > > > > > > > Cambium CBRS with Federated Wireless SAS. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning
> Do other countries have this problem? Having lived in quite a few other countries during my vacation with Uncle Sam, most other countries do not have anywhere near the issue with people running from police as we do here in the states. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri July 10 2020 11:54, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > Except it appears: > “ the officer may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless "the > officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant > threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others."[1]” > > Do other countries have this problem? > > > > From: Carl Peterson > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:49 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning > > Ten v Garner say you can't shoot them > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:33 AM wrote: > > I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of law enforcement. > And perhaps this is a broader philosophical question with no clear > answers. > > A guy, alone at night, in a city, near the location of a reported armed > robbery is confronted by cops, takes off running. He drops what appears to > be a gun, picks it up and keeps running, should he be shot? > > I understand that he may take a hostage or start shooting or whatever. > He may turn the gun on the cops. I remember old cop and robber movies when > I was a kid where the cop would yell “stop or I’ll shoot”. > > We had the above situation happen here in Utah a while back. Cops were > found to have done no wrong. People are understandably upset. > A few years ago, a young man playing with a sword was stopped by cops, he > took off running with the sword and they shot and killed him. I presume the > same justifications apply. > > I wonder how often someone with a weapon does harm after evading the > cops. I wonder how other countries confront the same problem. > If a human gets scared and runs due to uncontrolled fear, should they be > shot? > > I was only truly scared once in my life. Was in a bank robbery. > I understand that your rational thinking goes out the window a bit when > you are really scared. -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > > PORT NETWORKS > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > > > > --- >- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] blocked port 53
Most of the big public DNS servers also respond to 853 (TLS) I believe. Google advertises that they do. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri June 26 2020 11:31, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Robert, > > Couldn't you use one of the new secure DNS servers like clouldflare? > Don't they run on different ports? > > > -- > Best regards, > Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.Myakka.com > > -- > > Friday, June 26, 2020, 12:21:34 PM, you wrote: > > R> So I'm off in the mountains and it looks like the sat service is down > R> because someone is blocking port 53. Anyone know of a dns service I > R> could point to on a 1000+ port? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
Lived in Germany for three years late 60's. My landlord and his wife both had tatoo's from prison camps (they were German but did not agree with Hitler). Some of the stories they told would give me chills. Was back in Germany early 91 to late 94, and again both my landlord and his wife had prison camp tatoo's. He would not talk much about it but she said "You got in line and if that line cooked, then you cooked but if that line dug graves then you dug graves or later someone would be digging yours!" Been to Auschwitz and a couple of other camps. Didn't sleep for several days after. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri June 12 2020 14:03, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > We watched a movie called “Night and Fog” in high school. I wish I hadn’t. > I will never get those images of folks being slid into the cookers out of > my mind. It was a mix of nazi footage and liberators footage. Sounds like > your 89th book but the film version. > > From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 12:57 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > It’s probably like the moon landing deniers. They can confront Buzz > Aldrin, who can punch them in the nose. But soon everyone who was actually > there will be dead, and people can rewrite history to fit their biases and > conspiracy theories. > > > > Most of the people like my dad who fought in World War II wanted to move on > with life and didn’t talk much about the war. But his army unit (89th > infantry division) put together a book with history and photos, including > emaciated survivors and dead bodies stacked like firewood at sub-camps of > Buchenwald. You have never seen anything like it in your life, and you > don’t want to. Obviously I wasn’t there, but my dad was, and anybody who > theorizes that it was just propaganda makes me want to do a Buzz Aldrin on > them. > > > > Like the Marx Brothers quote, who are you going to believe, me or your own > eyes? > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHxGUe1cjzM > > > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of James Howard > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 1:08 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > But the skeptic might argue that the fact that you knew someone with a > tattoo on his arm actually proves that it didn’t happen since OBVIOUSLY he > wasn’t killed…… It just proves that they put people in prison camps and/or > tattooed them. > > > > > > This topic definitely has the potential for an early Lent….. > > > > > > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 12:34 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > I was not alive during the Holocaust, nor have I ever been to Germany. > > So I only know what I have experienced. > > > > But the overwhelming quantity of media on the subject seems to indicate > something happened > > Oh, and the fact I actually knew someone with a tattoo on their arm... > yeah, there’s that... > > > > From: Adam Moffett > > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 11:21 AM > > To: af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > If you mean because of the Internet then I agree with that. I asked an > astronomy question on Quora and an actual astronomer answered it. That > kind of direct access to information and expertise is amazing. On the > other hand, since anyone can put anything out there a lot of fringe people > are finding and supporting each other. > > Holocaust deniers sure, but also every other brand of idiocy like > homeopathy, magic rocks, antivax, neonazi's, etc. > > > > On 6/12/2020 1:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > I worked on the Stanford campus in the 70's.. saw and talked to Shockley > on a semi-daily basis. Had no idea of the idiocy that he supported. Just > seemed like a very aloof guy but liked to chat... Yeah we are in an age > where these people are getting to say what they used to have to hide... > > On 6/12/20 9:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Professors are a mixed lot. I took a course from this guy, who > apparently is still teaching although he would be well into his 80’s now. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Butz > > > > I had no idea at the time he was a Holocaust denier. I’ve never > understood those people – my dad was in the Army in WWII and participated > in liberating some concentration camps. I mean, it’s a freakin’ fact, how > can you deny facts. Anyway, my recollection
Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
That is true, did most of my college while serving in Europe. My economics professor was Rebecca Keynes, wasn't until like my fourth or fifth class that I found out her grandfather was John Keynes (Keynesian Theory). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri June 12 2020 11:11, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Professors are a mixed lot. I took a course from this guy, who apparently > is still teaching although he would be well into his 80’s now. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Butz > > > > I had no idea at the time he was a Holocaust denier. I’ve never understood > those people – my dad was in the Army in WWII and participated in > liberating some concentration camps. I mean, it’s a freakin’ fact, how can > you deny facts. Anyway, my recollection of Professor Butz was I had a > friend who kept writing the name as “Prof. Butts” on his assignments and > tests. We kept telling him it was spelled Butz but he thought we were > joking. Brings new meaning to the expression “butt of a joke”. > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Robert > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:54 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > Were you in the same class as I was? We had the same professor, I think.. > Drove me off the deep end... Specially when he blocked the equations with > his body as he erased!! But we had this one other assoc-prof.. Name of > Jim Clark.. He was wild, specially when he went into game theory and > betting systems.. Yep that Clark. Worked for him 20 years later... > > On 6/12/20 8:44 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Oh man. I was doing great in calculus until we got to differential > equations. I blame the professor. Harry Blackman. What a terrible > professor! He lectured with his back to the class and wrote on the > blackboard; chalk in his outstretched right hand, and eraser in his > outstretched left hand. He would write equations as he droned, and erased > the information in the space between his hands. What a horrible experience > that was! > > > > bp > > > > On 6/12/2020 8:22 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > See, I only cared about the digital stuff. Though power, motors, etc. > were pretty cool as well. Grades were good in those classes. > > > > Senior project the advisor dinged me for building a system for a plant out > of a microcontroller instead of using a PLC like he suggested. But I want > to do Microcontrollers. Yep, first job was building industrial control > systems with PLC’s. I’m guessing I was a completely cocky bastard as a 21 > year old. Perhaps someday I’ll grow out of that. Or not. > > > > Heh, calculus. My last all night study session managed to turn a > perfectly good B+ in differential equations into a D. Walked in to that > exam and drew a complete blank. Should have just slept, probably would > have aced it. > > > > Mark > > > > > > On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: > > > > Those were the ONLY classes I cared about. Got A’s in all things antenna > and RF. > > Got A’s in most of the linear stuff. > > > > Got the B’s in the digital crap that doesn’t matter to anyone (those > guys are called bit freaks) > > Got a C- in integral calculus. > > > > From: Mark Radabaugh > > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 8:42 AM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > Hey, I was proud of that D in Microwave and Antenna systems :-) D’s get > degrees. I’m never going to use this shit. Take the EIT / PE exam? > Why the hell would I ever work as a consulting engineer. > > > > Of course my first job is a consulting engineer, and I deal with microwaves > and antenna systems every day. > > > > Ah, to know then what I know now. Just don’t make me do all this shit > over again. > > > > Mark > > > > > > On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: > > > > Makes you wonder if a wire and an alligator clip could turn the aluminum > box into an antenna. > > > > Yeah, fields & waves was not my best course in college. And I have a fear > of heights. So of course I end up running a WISP. But turning a Faraday > cage into an antenna is probably not my best idea. > > > > > > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On > Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 9:07 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > I like your solution actually. Should work out well. Har
Re: [AFMUG] Determine PMP100 IP
At one time one of them (AP/SM) was 1.1 and the other was 1.2. Can't remember which or even what, but recall always checking both IP when "looking". -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon May 18 2020 16:51, Mike Hammett wrote: > I thought that 169.254.1.1 was fairly universal. Should a PMP100 AP always > respond to that IP? > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT COVID-19 Key
Walmart, Kroger, Dollar General - they (or more specifically their plastic bags) are your friend here. Slip you hand into a Walmart (or whoever) bag, touch what you need to, discard the bag. Especially handy when pumping gas and trying to push all the buttons on the keypad that they deliberately put recessed into the machine far enough you have to touch all sorts of things just to get your debit card into - and then back out of. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue April 7 2020 09:44, Adam Moffett wrote: > If we imagine the door handle is contaminated, then whatever you touched > it with may now be contaminated. So you put the contamination into your > pocket. Your hands go in and out of your pocket all the time. Is this > really better? > > Is it better than opening a door with a rag or your shirt sleeve? > > On 4/7/2020 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Or brass! > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 9:55 AM Carl Peterson > > mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote: > > > > And it is made of plastic... Should be copper. > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 8:04 AM Josh Luthman > > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> > > wrote: > > > > But you're touching the key... > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 3:24 PM can...@believewireless.net > > <mailto:can...@believewireless.net> > <mailto:p...@believewireless.net>> wrote: > > > > What's the key to COVID-19? How about this door opener > > that allows you to open different types of doors without > > physically touching them. > > > > Want a "Corona Key" for your very own? STL file is attached. > > > > I didn't invent this. Saw an ad on Facebook, designed it > > myself and printed it. > > > > Looking for a 3D printer? RUN, don't walk, and get a > > Prusa. Mine arrived the other day after my other one died > > and it is nothing less than amazing. MUCH easier to use. I > > pretty much press print and prints work nearly every time. > > Auto bed leveling so I'm not wasting several minutes > > trying to level the bed before each print. > > > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156875270210974&set=pcb.101568 > >75290840974&type=3&av=55973&eav=AfY2h7zsGL4UwPowUCwrPWk0H_5kWG3_YxEEPx > >P9aJUYP4_welOE-q7CJgmpx3-qYK4&__tn__=HH-R-R&eid=ARBf-Hr-yxspE_BPkYZ3xZY5Pd > >iuBzmltwcEKdtmB2lcXfiDuLi8BKxJ1KQRCK5m7U85vuvjAryNkxy0> -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT an honest query
On Sun March 29 2020 14:49, can...@believewireless.net wrote: > And we all know plenty of people with advanced degrees and perfect GPAs > that went no where. We used to call them paper tigers, loads of degrees and certifications, but could not do the actual job. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions
Mark, Look at letsencrypt.org. They have free certs for personal and minor use. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri February 21 2020 13:24, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I need to get a security certificate for a web page. This is going to > be for a single page for new customers to enter payment information. > Not sure what I need. I've seen prices all over the place. > > This will be a CGI generated page. It will not be a www page. Will > be something like https://xx.domain.com/np.cgi > > Looking for recommendations of legit places to get one without > breaking the bank. > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.Myakka.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers
Actually older than that. We first got the 7206(s) (have multiple) back in the 90's as NPE-300 units. Upgraded to NPE400's, then to G1 then to G2 units over the years. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon December 30 2019 22:25, Adam Moffett wrote: > Wow. An early 2000's vintage? > > On 12/30/2019 5:13 PM, Larry Smith wrote: > > We are getting ready to replace our Cisco 7206-VXR G2 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers
Thanks, thought about the MX204 but got this MX240 for a good price. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon December 30 2019 17:03, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Also: juniper-...@puck.nether.net <mailto:juniper-...@puck.nether.net> is > a good resource. > > Mark > > > On Dec 30, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Larry Smith wrote: > > > > > > Curiousity question. > > We are getting ready to replace our Cisco 7206-VXR G2 router > > with a Juniper MX240 and just wondering how many here actually > > use Juniper. Trying to do some reading and figure out what I am > > in for in the conversion. > > > > -- > > Larry Smith > > lesm...@ecsis.net > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers
This first one will replace our primary backbone router Mainly just curious what my learning curve is going to be and if there were "resources" here to help when I shoot myself in the foot. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon December 30 2019 16:28, Josh Baird wrote: > Several people here use Juniper. > > What role are you putting the MX240 in? What would you like to know? > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 5:13 PM Larry Smith wrote: > > Curiousity question. > > We are getting ready to replace our Cisco 7206-VXR G2 router > > with a Juniper MX240 and just wondering how many here actually > > use Juniper. Trying to do some reading and figure out what I am > > in for in the conversion. > > > > -- > > Larry Smith > > lesm...@ecsis.net > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Juniper routers
Curiousity question. We are getting ready to replace our Cisco 7206-VXR G2 router with a Juniper MX240 and just wondering how many here actually use Juniper. Trying to do some reading and figure out what I am in for in the conversion. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 1000 Disable primary Ethernet port
On Wed December 4 2019 08:28, Adam Moffett wrote: > This is a 2.4 unit on 3.5.6.but it looks like you can turn off the > primary port. > > If that option isn't there on yours, what about disabling the switch > port at the bottom or just unplugging it at the bottom? > > On 12/4/2019 9:19 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > Is there a way to disable the Ethernet on the primary port but leave > > the aux port active? You can Disable the Aux port, but there isn't a > > setting to disable the Primary port. I need to kill the traffic on > > the port that is providing the POE, but leave the aux port active. Configuration, Network, about 2/3rds down the page under Ethernet Port. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Picadillo breakfast
I only eat runny eggs over pancakes. Dice it all up together with a plate full of bacon. Yum, yum. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu October 24 2019 14:12, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > Too homophobic to eat runny eggs... > > From: Jaime Solorza > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:17 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: [AFMUG] Picadillo breakfast > > Yum > > > --- >- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 Monitoring both Ethernet Ports
Hmmm, if you do snmpwalk -v 2c -c 1.3.6 what does the IF:MIB section show for ethernet ports? I seldom get reasonable information from the cambium sections. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri October 18 2019 11:32, Nate Burke wrote: > That's what I'm using, it's not being much help. Anything other than > cambiumEthRXBytes.0 is failing. > > On 10/18/2019 11:22 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > > probably have to add th eindex .1 .2 at the end > > ireasoning mib browser is excellent for finding all this out > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:53 AM Nate Burke > <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote: > > > > I feel like I'm being stupid with SNMP. How do you monitor the 2 > > separate Ethernet ports on the old school EPMP1000 radios? > > > > The Cambium MIB only has a single Ethernet port listed in > > cambiumPerformanceMonitoring but in > > camibumpmp80211SystemConfiguration > > it has both lan and lan2 options. And I'm pretty sure that > > cambiumEthRXBytes is not actually either of the Ethernet > > interfaces, but > > the RF throughput. > > > > ifDescr lists 3 interfaces. 1 as Ethernet, 2 as RF, and 3 as > > Ethernet, > > but the Octet counts of 1 and 3 are equal. > > > > What am I missing? > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG list prob
Most mail software deals with this correctly, and go straight to the IP, afmug.com MX is af.afmug.com, but af.afmug.com has no MX records. Without seeing the actual error message he is getting it is all guesswork. Appears his MX is ppe-hosted.com (for silo.ca) but not sure if that is where his messages are coming from... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon December 10 2018 11:53, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > I posted a note to the list to see if anyone has suggestings. > > From: Andreas Wiatowski > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 10:47 AM > To: ch...@wbmfg.com > Cc: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: AFMUG list prob > > Ok, I thought I would ask… has something to do with the way exchange uses > internal RFC headers…I can’t change them. Just seems however the list is > set-up restrictive to this issue. > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Andreas Wiatowski > > Founder/CEO > > P: 519-449-5656 x 600 / 1-866-727-4138 x 600 > > > > Fibre Internet | Wireless Internet | Phone | TV > > Connecting your community > > www.silo.ca > > > > > > > > > > _ > > The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely > for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged > information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not > the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message > has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by > reply email and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are > not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, > dissemination, copying, or storage of this message or its attachments is > strictly prohibited. > > > > > > From: "ch...@wbmfg.com" > Date: Monday, December 10, 2018 at 12:45 PM > To: Andreas Wiatowski > Cc: "af@af.afmug.com" > Subject: Re: AFMUG list prob > > > > There is regular traffic to the list. Not exactly sure what to do here. > > > > From: Andreas Wiatowski > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 10:43 AM > > To: ch...@wbmfg.com > > Subject: AFMUG list prob > > > > Chuck, > > > > I haven’t been able to post in months…. It says that it’s a DNS thing…but I > can’t seem to fix it. This is the only place in the world that I seem to > have this issue. Can you whitelist me? > > > > Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups: > > mailto:af@af.afmug.com > A problem occurred and this message couldn't be delivered. Check to be sure > the email address is correct. If the problem continues, please contact your > helpdesk. > > > > > > > > > > > > Diagnostic information for administrators: > > Generating server: SILODOMAIN.DOMAIN.SWI > > af@af.afmug.com > Remote Server returned '554 5.4.4 SMTPSEND.DNS.InvalidData; DNS returned an > invalid response for this domain' > > Original message headers: > > Received: from SILODOMAIN.DOMAIN.SWI (192.168.3.234) by > SILODOMAIN.DOMAIN.SWI (192.168.3.234) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id > 15.0.847.32; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 12:39:41 -0500Received: from > SILODOMAIN.DOMAIN.SWI ([::1]) by SILODOMAIN.DOMAIN.SWI ([::1]) with mapi id > 15.00.0847.030; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 12:39:40 -0500From: Andreas Wiatowski > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: TestThread-Topic: TestThread-Index: > AQHUkK9TgyqrrDNcJkGeMMvZAiJKhA==Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:39:40 > +Message-ID: > <60043eef-3df2-4d8f-b16d-652c19017...@silowireless.com>Accept-Language: > en-USContent-Language: en-USX-MS-Has-Attach: > yesX-MS-TNEF-Correlator:user-agent: > Microsoft-MacOutlook/10.13.0.181109x-originating-ip: > [192.168.3.230]Content-Type: multipart/related; > boundary="_007_60043EEF3DF24D8FB16D652C1901735Esilowirelesscom_"; > type="multipart/alternative"MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Andreas Wiatowski > > Founder/CEO > > P: 519-449-5656 x 600 / 1-866-727-4138 x 600 > > > > Fibre Internet | Wireless Internet | Phone | TV > > Connecting your community > > www.silo.ca > > > > > > > > > > _ > > The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely > for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged > information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not > the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message > has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by > reply email and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are > not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, > dissemination, copying, or storage of this message or its attachments is > strictly prohibited. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Local Generator
We found that on our APC ups units pretty much all of them work from most generators if we change the input sensitivity from high to medium. Apparently has something to do with how it views the square wave of the input power. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue November 27 2018 08:59, Matt Hoppes wrote: > Yes. You want an investor style. > > > On Nov 27, 2018, at 09:47, Adam Moffett wrote: > > > > I was going to suggest inverter, but more for the long run-time. > > We got a Ryobi inverter generator from Home Depot and it has run a UPS > > before. I couldn't tell you the model number. > > > >> On 11/27/2018 9:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Am I looking for it to be an inverter-type generator for the UPS to play > >> nice? > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> > >> Midwest Internet Exchange > >> > >> The Brothers WISP > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: "Mike Hammett" > >> To: af@af.afmug.com > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:19:11 AM > >> Subject: [AFMUG] Local Generator > >> > >> What's a good generator likely to be in-stock locally? Mine has gone > >> missing. It doesn't need to be big. A couple hundred watts is more than > >> enough. It just needs to produce clean power for a UPS to ingest. > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> > >> Midwest Internet Exchange > >> > >> The Brothers WISP > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification
Morning Cory, say hi to Steve Rawlston. Welcome to AF. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon November 19 2018 11:31, Cory Polman wrote: > Thanks! Anything I can do to help out…just let me know! > > Cory > > Cory Polman-Calix > 612-360-1426-Cell > cory.pol...@calix.com<mailto:cory.pol...@calix.com> > > > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 11:30 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: AF subscription notification > > *waves* > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> > [Image removed by sender.]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[Image removed by > sender.]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[Imag >e removed by > sender.]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[ >Image removed by sender.]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet > Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > [Image removed by sender.]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[Image removed > by > sender.]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[Image > removed by sender.]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers > WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > [Image removed by sender.]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[Image > removed by sender.] > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 11:27:57 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: AF subscription notification > > So, Calix is now in the house... > > -Original Message- > From: mailman-boun...@af.afmug.com > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:27 AM > To: af-ow...@af.afmug.com > Subject: AF subscription notification > > Cory Polman has been successfully subscribed > to AF. (via admin approval) > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Router vulnerability
True on pretty much all counts, but, when dealing with certain "audit" agencies (especially for banks), if you have anything other than a name brand (Cisco ASA) firewall then you have 3,987 more pages of paperwork to fill out and justify your reasons/selection. We maintain several, you just keep a virtual PC with each version of ASDM and the appropriate JAVA (they only talk realiably to one specific version for each version of ASDM) and there's nothing to it. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu November 15 2018 18:58, Ken Hohhof wrote: > If it’s company CEO, they should purchase Smartnet contract and keep the > firmware updated. That’s about the only way you are going to fix > vulnerabilities, hope Cisco fixes them, and keep up with the latest > firmware. > > > > IMHO the only reason to have a Cisco ASA at home is he needs a > site-to-site VPN to an ASA at the office. Meaning he has multiple devices > at home that need to work across the VPN, otherwise he could probably use a > software VPN client on his computer. Or maybe non computer devices like > his phone needs to work across the VPN. > > > > Also IMHO if this is the case, he needs a Cisco security trained/certified > IT person to manage it. I was OK dealing with IOS but the ASA series I > always found very difficult to configure and maintain, I pretty much > wouldn’t touch them. One of my customers who had ASAs at HQ and every > branch office had a big IT company under contract to do all their ASA > maintenance and even though they were supposedly Cisco experts, they would > screw up and mess everything up trying to do a simple change and end up > taking a whole day to get it working again. > > > > A common approach seems to be start with ASDM to get a basic working config > because you’ll never get there from the command line, but then SSH in and > do the rest of the config manually. Then be sure to save a copy of the > config for when you inevitably break everything trying to make a change. > > > > If the CEO just needs a fancy router, there are probably better choices > than an ASA. Just not a Sonicwall. Maybe a nice Netgear AX8, which will > look it’s about to take off and fly around the living room. Or maybe a > nice Google WiFi, he can put one in every room. > > > > But you’re probably going to say it’s the VPN thing. Some people say it’s > because they need a true firewall, not just a router. But then I ask them > what custom firewall rules they defined. And who monitors the IDS logs and > responds to the identified threats. If the answers are none and nobody, > then it’s just an expensive router. And BTW, in my experience ASAs are > like every other router, first troubleshooting step is to power cycle them > and see if the VPN light comes back on. > > > > I have some customers now using firewall appliances at every site that they > contract out to a big telco which I think is using firewall appliances > based on pfSense. I don’t really know enough to have an opinion, but that > seems a reasonable way to go. No Cisco maintenance contract to buy just to > get firmware updates. Just finding someone to sell you Smartnet is a pain, > I used to call up a place like CDW. I swear Cisco doesn’t really want your > business unless you’re a Fortune 500 company, or government, or a big > telco. > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 5:32 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Router vulnerability > > > > Friend has one for ceo of his company...can you point me to sure for ideas? > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018, 12:15 PM Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > > Who's using an ASA at home? > > > > ASA has a bunch of vulnerabilities - most fixed, some not... > > > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > What is the latest on router vulnerability to hacks on ASA and home > versions? > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT was Mobile in CBRS
Lived there for about 12 to 13 years and learned to love the food. Especially brussies (brussel sprouts). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Thu November 1 2018 16:29, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > I dunno, I just spent a couple of weeks there. I go over every year or two > to visit grandkids. Had the best nachos ever in a tiny little fish house. > Pulled pork on chips with cheese and jalapenos. Excellent takeout curry. > Cornish pasties are always good as is the clotted cream. > All the fish is good. > > I think they get a bum rap for food. > > From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 3:23 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > > According to the Internet, Brussels sprouts are a big part of traditional > Christmas dinner in Britain. > > > > More proof there is no good food in Britain (except perhaps curry) (and > fish and chips). > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 12:57 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > > > > So funny, we used to have a commissioner here that everyone called Boss > Hogg. He wasn’t quite as short. > > > > From: Adam Moffett > > Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:51 AM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > > > > I can see the 1st amendment thing. > > > > "Uh oh, you Duke boys been saying bad things on Facebook about county > commissioner Boss Hogg. Looks like 'hate speech' to me. We goin ta hafta > suspend your internet service. Company policy and all. You understand I'm > sure." > > > > But it's a hypothetical problemand more easily solved by changing the > AUP than anything else. > > > > I'm not sure how either this or lima beans relates to mobile devices in > CBRS, but it's a fun conversation all the same. > > > > -- Original Message -- > > From: "Ken Hohhof" > > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > > Sent: 10/31/2018 6:45:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > > > > I’d find it more “ominous” if there was an actual case of them censoring > someone, rather than just some language in an AUP. I’d also worry more if > the current AUP actually had such language, which apparently it doesn’t. > > > > I’ll give you the thing about Rise can do stuff that the government > can’t. Although it’s a bit complicated. First Amendment says govt can’t > stop you from saying hateful things about someone, but if you threaten > violence, that speech is not protected. And there must be some kind of > exception for schools, which can stop things like online bullying. > > > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:53 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > > > > Rise is a private company. They can write whatever rules they want. > > > > A city is government, the people. > > They should not be able to abridge rights. > > This is identical to preventing local residents from checking out certain > books from the library like Huck Finn. > > According to this mentality, you could not quote certain passages from > Huck Finn in an email if using the muni system. > > > > From: Ken Hohhof > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:46 PM > > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > > > > By the article, you mean the think tank guy? That paper is from 3 years > ago. Maybe that language was in the EPB acceptable use policy then, hard > to tell, especially since he doesn’t cite a reference, but it’s certainly > not there now. O’Rielly made his speech just the other day. Warning of an > “ominous threat” based on a 3 year old think tank article about language in > an AUP seems a bit overblown, don’t you think? > > > > And maybe we live in glass houses. I just randomly selected Rise > Broadband since they’re the biggest WISP and checked their AUP: > > > > “YOU may not use the Service to advertise, solicit, store, post, > transmit, disseminate, or otherwise make available material or information > that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, libelous, > defamatory, hateful, obscene, indecent, or otherwise objectionable or which > encourages or participates in conduct that would constitute a criminal > offense, gives rise to a civil liability, or otherwise violates any local, > state,
Re: [AFMUG] Having fun
Wow, so cool, taught a course there (Bletchley Park) under a "loaner" program late 70's. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon October 29 2018 15:27, Chuck McCown wrote: > I was in Bletchley Park, UK. > > From: Cameron Crum > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 2:24 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Having fun > > Did you reach out to my friend Jason? > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 9:56 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone-- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > --- >- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Having fun
Worked a lot with DEC RP-07 drives (washing machine). Believe they were seven platter, and when a head "crashed" it generally acted like pin-ball and took out all of them. The tops of ours were light smoke color so you could watch the "excitement" of all the heads and various parts bouncing around with little you could do about it until the drive stopped spinning (the top would not open, probably a good thing)... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon October 29 2018 11:06, castarritt wrote: > What those be for a 5.25' and 3.5' drives, respectively? Unfortunately, I > wasn't alive for the days of washing machine sized drives. I guess when a > computer "crashed" back then, things were a bit more kinetic. > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 11:02 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > > So the first pic showed disks? I mistook it for tape reels. That is > > humongous. > > > > > > On 10/29/2018 11:07 AM, Dave wrote: > > > > WOW! I had to take a step backwards LOL > > I remember the old Disks and the machines that ran them. > > > > > > On 10/29/18 9:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Which number to use while aiming ptp650?
We generally go to Installation, Graphical Install on the left side frame menu (in the 650) and maximize that value, then start looking at other things. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri October 12 2018 08:34, Sam Lambie wrote: > The radios have an audio aiming tool as well but I have high tone hearing > loss so I can't hear a thing... So know which signal pevel to pay attention > to while aiming would be key. > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 4:20 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > > I haven't put up a 650 but they always had an aiming mode to use for > > alignment. If you don't use that the nunnery will jump all over the place > > as you swing the antenna as the units try to optimize the link and data > > rates while you aim. > > Aiming mode locks this to a slow and single data rate and output so you > > can step through aligning everything with only your efforts as the single > > variable. > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 11:05 PM Sam Lambie wrote: > >> I am almost finished putting up at Cambium ptp650 and to finalize > >> installation, which recieve power do I use to aim these suckers? > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium small town roadshow
Hmmm, thought it was Radar who shipped the jeep home. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Wed September 19 2018 12:07, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > I think he also ate a jeep. > > From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 11:01 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium small town roadshow > > Somebody in my town's parks and rec program was using the youth soccer > budget to buy themselves personal items. Went to jail over some a few > grand worth of toys from Amazon. Yes it's insane. > > My friend is on the town board in a town a few counties over. In his town, > somebody in highway or public works was buying tractor parts for a tractor > the town didn't own. It ended up at over $70,000. Basically he bought > himself an entire tractor, but by doing it one piece at a time over a long > time period he dind't raise any eyebrows. If he'd been buying parts for a > tractor model that the town actually owned, he would have almost definitely > gotten away with it. > > Was Clinger the one in MASH who mailed a Jeep home one piece at a time? > > > > On 9/18/2018 8:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I always find it amusingly sad when some public employee is caught with > their hand in the till and goes to jail over maybe $5K > > $100M and you might find me living in a non extradition country, but > using the county credit card to gas up the family vehicle... > > That public money is way to sacred for me to want to be in the chain of > custody. > > From: Lewis Bergman > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:50 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium small town roadshow > > Having been a mayor, I can tell you the books are audited every year. It > doesn't prevent fraud, but most people get caught eventually. The books are > public record. If you think there is something underhanded going on, you > should be able to prove it. > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 7:16 PM Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > Wait... how are pole attachment fees related to Cambium coming to your > town? > > On 9/18/18 4:01 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > Anybody know about this? Particularly how the town's are picked. My > > town is on the list. I knew something was afoot when the council > > announced pole attachment fees recently, but there was no detail on > > who's pockets got lined. (that's the only way things happen here) > > I'm not accusing cambium of anything. I'm just curious. > > I hate living in a corrupt town. Those big city democrats have > > nothing on small town republicans when it comes to fleecing the > > population. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > --- >--- -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > > --- >- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How ACH works
> Checks are a very outdated method for payment May be, but under US Law (Uniform Commercial Code) a check is a "promisary note" and as such a contract to pay. You can easily take someone to court over a bounced or bad check. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri June 29 2018 08:43, Matt Hoppes wrote: > Oh yes, we have people complain all the time that they went to the bank and > sent a check out but we never got it for another two weeks or so. > > We also have people who say that their checks got lost in the mail or we > get an envelope that was never sealed. > > Yet another reason why I tell people that the credit card payment method is > much more secure than checks. > > Checks are a very outdated method for payment > > > On Jun 29, 2018, at 09:38, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > > > My cost of doing business was lower, which is why I did it. Maybe yours > > isn't. I will say it was a management push on my part to enforce policies > > that got everyone on ACH if possible. ACH was free, CC wasn't. As a > > result, maybe we had a more general cross section of our customer base on > > ACH that you so we didn't huge differences. And I guess that's why people > > do it differently. Your experience wasn't mine. But if mine was 5 times > > worse I would still find it compelling from a monetary viewpoint. But, it > > really wasn't an issue for us from the PITA point of view because the > > software handled most of it. Maybe your customer base was significantly > > different than mine. We also got a big kick in ACH enrollment because a > > bunch of the banks in our area used the same "Bill Pay" check printing > > service. As we got one envelope with 150 checks in it for different > > accounts, all listing something stupid like ISP as the account number, > > and on top of that, payment was made late. The inevitable calls came in > > about why they were charged late fees, they scheduled it payed a week > > ahead of deadlines, etc. We would have to explain that we could show them > > the postmark, the date on the check, etc. Customer would say "they took > > the money out of my account on ...". Our pitch was always that if they > > let us pull the money via ACH we wouldn't charge them and they could > > never be assessed a late fee if we did the ACH. That got a bunch. But > > again, our experiences seem to be quite different. > > > > I just put the possibility of contested CC out there. I don't think we > > ever had anyone contest a charge. Maybe once on an install. I don't > > remember it if we did. But in my experience, that possibility was roughly > > the same as my chances of losing more money doing ACH than CC. > > > > In the end, that is what's great about this place right? I don't have to > > do it like you and vice versa. > > > >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:06 AM Matt Hoppes > >> wrote: It’s just the cost of doing > >> business. > >> > >> And yes they do have 60 days to contest it but most people don’t. > >> > >> We have a small handful of ACH and the number of bounced transactions > >> that occurred there is much much much higher than anyone contesting a > >> credit card transactions. > >> > >>> On Jun 29, 2018, at 08:21, Lewis Bergman > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> If you can't figure it out maybe math is the issue. 25 cents for ACH. > >>> CC is 2.75% and up. If you are doing 400k a month in CC that adds up to > >>> about 10k more in fees. In all the time we did ACH we probably lost an > >>> additional 3k that we would not have lost with CC. So 3k in 10 > >>> years is less than 10k in one month. > >>> > >>> So why do people still do it...they can do simple arithmetic? > >>> > >>> You do raise some valid points. If you have to have the money and can't > >>> wait two days and so want to pay an effective annual interest rate that > >>> is enormous. > >>> > >>> If you are drafting the routing and account info is your customers not > >>> yours. > >>> > >>> I had someone fraudulently present a check for 92k on my account. Maybe > >>> that proves your point, but the bank credited my account in a couple of > >>> weeks and it really wasn't a big deal to get done. Only time it has > >>> ever happened. So again, the math tells me even if that happened every > >>> year one time instead of once in twenty years, and I didn't get m
