Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

15 a monthyet to connect power it's $350.  To connect water it's $150.  
Monopoly vs not a monopoly ?  I enourage solar panels ..

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From: "Bill Prince" 
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Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?
Date: Wed, Apr 28, 2021 10:05 AM

People sometimes have a mental block about things. Kind of like some 
people think that beer is somehow not plant based.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-host-rages-against-plant-based-beer-2021-4
 
<https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-host-rages-against-plant-based-beer-2021-4>

bp


On 4/28/2021 7:22 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> Every now and then you get a customer that just grinds your gears. 
> Customer has multiple streaming services, including Youtube TV, so 
> they have to be paying over $100/month for their OTT packages, but 
> they REFUSE to spend more than $35/month for our lowest grandfathered 
> base package, and continually complain about picture quality and 
> buffering.  We've offered our higher packages, but 'I can't afford 
> that'  So we've told them multiple times that they're not happy with 
> us and they need to switch to Comcast, but 'Comcast is too expensive'  
> and 'I'm just a poor teacher'  Then they had the audacity to tell us 
> 'I even went and bought a new 4k Samsung smart TV thinking that would 
> fix everything, but it's all still grainy and still buffering!'  Well, 
> yes, it's maxing out your plan speed.  No matter how expensive of a TV 
> you get it'll still have that problem. I'm not sure what the problem 
> is with upgrading their package since apparently they can spend money 
> on everything else.
>
> Not really looking for any answers, just need someone to gripe to 
> since I'm sitting here by myself this morning.
>

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Robert Andrews]

Oh I must have seen the wrong guy, I though you were next door to Zuck..

On 04/28/2021 01:13 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 4/28/21 12:56, Robert wrote:

I have pictures of you Seth, Lake Tahoe has a lot of cameras...



I admit it, I bought Ellison's house.



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Seth Mattinen]

On 4/28/21 12:56, Robert wrote:

I have pictures of you Seth, Lake Tahoe has a lot of cameras...



I admit it, I bought Ellison's house.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Robert]

I have pictures of you Seth, Lake Tahoe has a lot of cameras...

On 4/28/21 11:45 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 4/28/21 07:53, Adam Moffett wrote:
Saw this from a friend on Facebook. Demoralizing.  Yeah fuck me, I'm 
an evil asshole.  Internet would be $15/month if I wasn't such a bad 
person.



I've had to explain more than once to people that I actually have 
bills to pay too. I guess most people think I just pocket all the 
money while I sit on my yacht at the lake with bikini girls to attend 
to my every need.





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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Robert]

Since the 2nd year of doing this WISP thing I have felt like a drug 
dealer.   Now they are going to legalize our drugs...


On 4/28/21 10:41 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Yes, the drug dealer model.  Give them wide open throttle for 3 days 
and then take it off.  Perhaps over a weekend.


-Original Message- From: Larry Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?


Show them the difference.  Explain it to them, how much each
streaming device wants in terms of bandwidth, then upgrade them
for 30 days.  At the end of the 30 days drop them back to their
paid for plan and let them decide.  We have done this a few times
and believe they always want to stay on the better plan - complain
about paying more - but do it.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[James Howard]

PRIVATE lake

From: AF  On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

On 4/28/21 07:53, Adam Moffett wrote:
> Saw this from a friend on Facebook.  Demoralizing.  Yeah fuck me, I'm an
> evil asshole.  Internet would be $15/month if I wasn't such a bad person.


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to pay too. I guess most people think I just pocket all the money while
I sit on my yacht at the lake with bikini girls to attend to my every need.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Adam Moffett]

On 4/28/2021 2:48 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:



On 4/28/21 07:53, Adam Moffett wrote:
Saw this from a friend on Facebook. Demoralizing.  Yeah fuck me, I'm 
an evil asshole.  Internet would be $15/month if I wasn't such a bad 
person.



I've had to explain more than once to people that I actually have 
bills to pay too. I guess most people think I just pocket all the 
money while I sit on my yacht at the lake with bikini girls to attend 
to my every need.



I heard you wear a top hat and a monocle too.



Every person here looks like this guy.  We go through gallons of 
mustache wax.


Evil Moustache Characters - Giant Bomb

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Mike Hammett]

Are the bikini girls the bills you have? 




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Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Seth Mattinen"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 1:45:39 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free? 

On 4/28/21 07:53, Adam Moffett wrote: 
> Saw this from a friend on Facebook. Demoralizing. Yeah fuck me, I'm an 
> evil asshole. Internet would be $15/month if I wasn't such a bad person. 


I've had to explain more than once to people that I actually have bills 
to pay too. I guess most people think I just pocket all the money while 
I sit on my yacht at the lake with bikini girls to attend to my every need. 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Adam Moffett]

On 4/28/21 07:53, Adam Moffett wrote:
Saw this from a friend on Facebook. Demoralizing.  Yeah fuck me, I'm 
an evil asshole.  Internet would be $15/month if I wasn't such a bad 
person.



I've had to explain more than once to people that I actually have 
bills to pay too. I guess most people think I just pocket all the 
money while I sit on my yacht at the lake with bikini girls to attend 
to my every need.



I heard you wear a top hat and a monocle too.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Seth Mattinen]

On 4/28/21 07:53, Adam Moffett wrote:
Saw this from a friend on Facebook.  Demoralizing.  Yeah fuck me, I'm an 
evil asshole.  Internet would be $15/month if I wasn't such a bad person.



I've had to explain more than once to people that I actually have bills 
to pay too. I guess most people think I just pocket all the money while 
I sit on my yacht at the lake with bikini girls to attend to my every need.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Yes, the drug dealer model.  Give them wide open throttle for 3 days and 
then take it off.  Perhaps over a weekend.


-Original Message- 
From: Larry Smith

Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?


Show them the difference.  Explain it to them, how much each
streaming device wants in terms of bandwidth, then upgrade them
for 30 days.  At the end of the 30 days drop them back to their
paid for plan and let them decide.  We have done this a few times
and believe they always want to stay on the better plan - complain
about paying more - but do it.

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On Wed April 28 2021 09:33, Craig House wrote:

Tell them to return the new 4k TV and use the money to upgrade plans.

- Original Message -
From: "Nate Burke" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 9:22:57 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

Every now and then you get a customer that just grinds your gears.
Customer has multiple streaming services, including Youtube TV, so they
have to be paying over $100/month for their OTT packages, but they
REFUSE to spend more than $35/month for our lowest grandfathered base
package, and continually complain about picture quality and buffering.
We've offered our higher packages, but 'I can't afford that'  So we've
told them multiple times that they're not happy with us and they need to
switch to Comcast, but 'Comcast is too expensive'  and 'I'm just a poor
teacher'  Then they had the audacity to tell us 'I even went and bought
a new 4k Samsung smart TV thinking that would fix everything, but it's
all still grainy and still buffering!'  Well, yes, it's maxing out your
plan speed.  No matter how expensive of a TV you get it'll still have
that problem. I'm not sure what the problem is with upgrading their
package since apparently they can spend money on everything else.

Not really looking for any answers, just need someone to gripe to since
I'm sitting here by myself this morning.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[dave via AF]

I have the best support folks up front
If cust doesnt want to upgrade then its explained that thier problem 
wont go away by buying a bigger tv or router
The answer is more bandwidth sorry if our pricing is too much for you 
then maybe another provider can help you.

I cant stand stupid LOL


On 4/28/21 9:33 AM, Craig House wrote:

Tell them to return the new 4k TV and use the money to upgrade plans.

- Original Message -
From: "Nate Burke" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 9:22:57 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

Every now and then you get a customer that just grinds your gears.
Customer has multiple streaming services, including Youtube TV, so they
have to be paying over $100/month for their OTT packages, but they
REFUSE to spend more than $35/month for our lowest grandfathered base
package, and continually complain about picture quality and buffering.
We've offered our higher packages, but 'I can't afford that'  So we've
told them multiple times that they're not happy with us and they need to
switch to Comcast, but 'Comcast is too expensive'  and 'I'm just a poor
teacher'  Then they had the audacity to tell us 'I even went and bought
a new 4k Samsung smart TV thinking that would fix everything, but it's
all still grainy and still buffering!'  Well, yes, it's maxing out your
plan speed.  No matter how expensive of a TV you get it'll still have
that problem. I'm not sure what the problem is with upgrading their
package since apparently they can spend money on everything else.

Not really looking for any answers, just need someone to gripe to since
I'm sitting here by myself this morning.



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Bill Prince]

People sometimes have a mental block about things. Kind of like some 
people think that beer is somehow not plant based.


https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-host-rages-against-plant-based-beer-2021-4 



bp


On 4/28/2021 7:22 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
Every now and then you get a customer that just grinds your gears. 
Customer has multiple streaming services, including Youtube TV, so 
they have to be paying over $100/month for their OTT packages, but 
they REFUSE to spend more than $35/month for our lowest grandfathered 
base package, and continually complain about picture quality and 
buffering.  We've offered our higher packages, but 'I can't afford 
that'  So we've told them multiple times that they're not happy with 
us and they need to switch to Comcast, but 'Comcast is too expensive'  
and 'I'm just a poor teacher'  Then they had the audacity to tell us 
'I even went and bought a new 4k Samsung smart TV thinking that would 
fix everything, but it's all still grainy and still buffering!'  Well, 
yes, it's maxing out your plan speed.  No matter how expensive of a TV 
you get it'll still have that problem. I'm not sure what the problem 
is with upgrading their package since apparently they can spend money 
on everything else.


Not really looking for any answers, just need someone to gripe to 
since I'm sitting here by myself this morning.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Larry Smith]

Show them the difference.  Explain it to them, how much each
streaming device wants in terms of bandwidth, then upgrade them
for 30 days.  At the end of the 30 days drop them back to their
paid for plan and let them decide.  We have done this a few times
and believe they always want to stay on the better plan - complain
about paying more - but do it.

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On Wed April 28 2021 09:33, Craig House wrote:
> Tell them to return the new 4k TV and use the money to upgrade plans.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nate Burke" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 9:22:57 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?
>
> Every now and then you get a customer that just grinds your gears.
> Customer has multiple streaming services, including Youtube TV, so they
> have to be paying over $100/month for their OTT packages, but they
> REFUSE to spend more than $35/month for our lowest grandfathered base
> package, and continually complain about picture quality and buffering.
> We've offered our higher packages, but 'I can't afford that'  So we've
> told them multiple times that they're not happy with us and they need to
> switch to Comcast, but 'Comcast is too expensive'  and 'I'm just a poor
> teacher'  Then they had the audacity to tell us 'I even went and bought
> a new 4k Samsung smart TV thinking that would fix everything, but it's
> all still grainy and still buffering!'  Well, yes, it's maxing out your
> plan speed.  No matter how expensive of a TV you get it'll still have
> that problem. I'm not sure what the problem is with upgrading their
> package since apparently they can spend money on everything else.
>
> Not really looking for any answers, just need someone to gripe to since
> I'm sitting here by myself this morning.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Craig House]

Tell them to return the new 4k TV and use the money to upgrade plans.  

- Original Message -
From: "Nate Burke" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 9:22:57 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

Every now and then you get a customer that just grinds your gears. 
Customer has multiple streaming services, including Youtube TV, so they 
have to be paying over $100/month for their OTT packages, but they 
REFUSE to spend more than $35/month for our lowest grandfathered base 
package, and continually complain about picture quality and buffering.  
We've offered our higher packages, but 'I can't afford that'  So we've 
told them multiple times that they're not happy with us and they need to 
switch to Comcast, but 'Comcast is too expensive'  and 'I'm just a poor 
teacher'  Then they had the audacity to tell us 'I even went and bought 
a new 4k Samsung smart TV thinking that would fix everything, but it's 
all still grainy and still buffering!'  Well, yes, it's maxing out your 
plan speed.  No matter how expensive of a TV you get it'll still have 
that problem. I'm not sure what the problem is with upgrading their 
package since apparently they can spend money on everything else.

Not really looking for any answers, just need someone to gripe to since 
I'm sitting here by myself this morning.

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[AFMUG] OT: Why isn't the internet Free?

[Nate Burke]

Every now and then you get a customer that just grinds your gears. 
Customer has multiple streaming services, including Youtube TV, so they 
have to be paying over $100/month for their OTT packages, but they 
REFUSE to spend more than $35/month for our lowest grandfathered base 
package, and continually complain about picture quality and buffering.  
We've offered our higher packages, but 'I can't afford that'  So we've 
told them multiple times that they're not happy with us and they need to 
switch to Comcast, but 'Comcast is too expensive'  and 'I'm just a poor 
teacher'  Then they had the audacity to tell us 'I even went and bought 
a new 4k Samsung smart TV thinking that would fix everything, but it's 
all still grainy and still buffering!'  Well, yes, it's maxing out your 
plan speed.  No matter how expensive of a TV you get it'll still have 
that problem. I'm not sure what the problem is with upgrading their 
package since apparently they can spend money on everything else.


Not really looking for any answers, just need someone to gripe to since 
I'm sitting here by myself this morning.


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