Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

i do like me some plump tomatoes

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:58 AM David Coudron 
wrote:

> They make good fertilizer…
>
>
>
> Gardening season is just around the corner.Just saying…..
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:53 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
>
>
> i think a fair trade would be we will hand over 1 AR-15 for each pedo head
> delivered. They want the assault rifles off the streets, they bring pedo
> heads.
>
>
>
> I dont know what youre supposed to do with the bodies when you bring
> heads. Is is bad form to just leave them in a pile?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:20 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> No.  Don't give the government any more access to anything ever.
>
> We already identify pedos on Facebook and no one seems to give a shit.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:08 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> Isnt that crazy? I wish they did the right thing and let the fbi pedo
> patrol take a peek at that user list and ip access list
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:38 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyfans-debut-six-hours
>
>
>
> >$23.99 per month for access to exclusive photos and videos on her
> OnlyFans page
>
>
>
> Holy shit.  That's 42k people in 6 hours.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
> So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does she sing or get naked
> or what?
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
>
>
> So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm
> not sure why we are doing that.
>
> On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> > By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.  But
> > don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer -
> > stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way
> > things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way, it
> > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it
> > bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
> >
> > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a N95
> > so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear
> > 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The
> > quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do anything
> > that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big
> > pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
> >
> > 
> > *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> > *To: *"af" 
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> >
> > The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
> >  > <
> mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> >> wrote:
> >
> > And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
> >
> > It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
> >
> > You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat, out
> in
> > large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from
> getting
> > infected?
> >
> > I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
> > helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
> >
> > The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha
> > know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing
> through
> > who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next
> to
> > someone not in their immediate family.
> >
> > Do masks work?
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Larry Smith]

they eat everything but the teeth so if you are
taking the head the pigs will dispose of everything else.

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Wed April 7 2021 10:07, Robert wrote:
> I believe that the tradition was the pig stye...
>
> On 4/7/21 7:57 AM, David Coudron wrote:
> > They make good fertilizer…
> >
> > Gardening season is just around the corner.    Just saying…..
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:53 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> >
> > i think a fair trade would be we will hand over 1 AR-15 for each pedo
> > head delivered. They want the assault rifles off the streets, they
> > bring pedo heads.
> >
> > I dont know what youre supposed to do with the bodies when you bring
> > heads. Is is bad form to just leave them in a pile?
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:20 AM Josh Luthman
> > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >
> > No.  Don't give the government any more access to anything ever.
> >
> > We already identify pedos on Facebook and no one seems to give a
> > shit.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:08 PM Steve Jones
> > mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Isnt that crazy? I wish they did the right thing and let the
> > fbi pedo patrol take a peek at that user list and ip access list
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:38 PM Josh Luthman
> >  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyfa
> >ns-debut-six-hours
> > <https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyf
> >ans-debut-six-hours>
> >
> > >$23.99 per month for access to exclusive photos and
> >
> > videos on her OnlyFans page
> >
> > Holy shit.  That's 42k people in 6 hours.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF
> > mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> >
> > So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does
> > she sing or get naked or what?
> >
> > *From:*Steve Jones
> >
> > *Sent:*Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
> >
> > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> >
> > So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million
> > bucks on onlyfans
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes
> >  > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> >
> > I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that..
> > a clown show.. I'm
> > not sure why we are doing that.
> >
> > On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> > > By all means take any precaution you wish. 
> >
> > People at risk should.  But
> >
> > > don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see
> >
> > a non mask wearer -
> >
> > > stay away from them. Go ahead and live your life
> >
> > in fear.  The way
> >
> > > things are going right now, this will never end.
> >
> > We tried your way, it
> >
> > > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the
> >
> > numbers.  In fact it
> >
> > > bought the virus time to mutate and make things
> >
> > worse.
> >
> > > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need
> >
> > a bare minimum of a N95
> >
> > > so d

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Robert]

I believe that the tradition was the pig stye...

On 4/7/21 7:57 AM, David Coudron wrote:


They make good fertilizer…

Gardening season is just around the corner.    Just saying…..

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:53 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

i think a fair trade would be we will hand over 1 AR-15 for each pedo 
head delivered. They want the assault rifles off the streets, they 
bring pedo heads.


I dont know what youre supposed to do with the bodies when you bring 
heads. Is is bad form to just leave them in a pile?


On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:20 AM Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


No.  Don't give the government any more access to anything ever.

We already identify pedos on Facebook and no one seems to give a shit.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:08 PM Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Isnt that crazy? I wish they did the right thing and let the
fbi pedo patrol take a peek at that user list and ip access list

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:38 PM Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyfans-debut-six-hours

<https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyfans-debut-six-hours>

>$23.99 per month for access to exclusive photos and
videos on her OnlyFans page

Holy shit.  That's 42k people in 6 hours.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does
she sing or get naked or what?

*From:*Steve Jones

*Sent:*Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million
bucks on onlyfans

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that..
a clown show.. I'm
not sure why we are doing that.

On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> By all means take any precaution you wish. 
People at risk should.  But
> don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see
a non mask wearer -
> stay away from them. Go ahead and live your life
in fear.  The way
> things are going right now, this will never end.
We tried your way, it
> didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the
numbers.  In fact it
> bought the virus time to mutate and make things
worse.
>
> First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need
a bare minimum of a N95
> so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,
now you need to wear
> 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a
different way.   The
> quickest way to immunity and return to normal
life.   If you do anything
> that prolongs that from happening you are
clearly advocating for big
> pharma and the medical community to now be our
new governing body.
>
>


> *From: *"Steve Jones" mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
> *To: *"af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
> mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.n

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[David Coudron]

They make good fertilizer…

Gardening season is just around the corner.Just saying…..


From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:53 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

i think a fair trade would be we will hand over 1 AR-15 for each pedo head 
delivered. They want the assault rifles off the streets, they bring pedo heads.

I dont know what youre supposed to do with the bodies when you bring heads. Is 
is bad form to just leave them in a pile?

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:20 AM Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
No.  Don't give the government any more access to anything ever.

We already identify pedos on Facebook and no one seems to give a shit.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:08 PM Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Isnt that crazy? I wish they did the right thing and let the fbi pedo patrol 
take a peek at that user list and ip access list
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:38 PM Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyfans-debut-six-hours

>$23.99 per month for access to exclusive photos and videos on her OnlyFans page

Holy shit.  That's 42k people in 6 hours.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does she sing or get naked or 
what?

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes 
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
wrote:
I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm
not sure why we are doing that.

On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.  But
> don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer -
> stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way
> things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way, it
> didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it
> bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
>
> First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a N95
> so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear
> 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The
> quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do anything
> that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big
> pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
>
> 
> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
> *To: *"af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
> mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net%20%0b>> 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>
> And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
>
> It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
>
> You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat, out in
> large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from getting
> infected?
>
> I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
> helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
>
> The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha
> know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing through
> who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next to
> someone not in their immediate family.
>
> Do masks work?
>
> You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
> COVID
> and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
> symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.
>
> We were both wearing masks.
>
> The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long as
> it doesn't harm others.
>
> I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think the
> numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters
> into the contagion.   We'

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

i think a fair trade would be we will hand over 1 AR-15 for each pedo head
delivered. They want the assault rifles off the streets, they bring pedo
heads.

I dont know what youre supposed to do with the bodies when you bring heads.
Is is bad form to just leave them in a pile?

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:20 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> No.  Don't give the government any more access to anything ever.
>
> We already identify pedos on Facebook and no one seems to give a shit.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:08 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> Isnt that crazy? I wish they did the right thing and let the fbi pedo
>> patrol take a peek at that user list and ip access list
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:38 PM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyfans-debut-six-hours
>>>
>>> >$23.99 per month for access to exclusive photos and videos on her
>>> OnlyFans page
>>>
>>> Holy shit.  That's 42k people in 6 hours.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does she sing or get
>>>> naked or what?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>>>>
>>>> So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes <
>>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm
>>>>> not sure why we are doing that.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>>>>> > By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.
>>>>> But
>>>>> > don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer -
>>>>> > stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way
>>>>> > things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your
>>>>> way, it
>>>>> > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it
>>>>> > bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a
>>>>> N95
>>>>> > so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to
>>>>> wear
>>>>> > 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The
>>>>> > quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do
>>>>> anything
>>>>> > that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big
>>>>> > pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> 
>>>>> > *From: *"Steve Jones" 
>>>>> > *To: *"af" 
>>>>> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
>>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
>>>>> > >>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat,
>>>>> out in
>>>>> > large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from
>>>>> getting
>>>>> > infected?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Josh Luthman]

No.  Don't give the government any more access to anything ever.

We already identify pedos on Facebook and no one seems to give a shit.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:08 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Isnt that crazy? I wish they did the right thing and let the fbi pedo
> patrol take a peek at that user list and ip access list
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:38 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyfans-debut-six-hours
>>
>> >$23.99 per month for access to exclusive photos and videos on her
>> OnlyFans page
>>
>> Holy shit.  That's 42k people in 6 hours.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does she sing or get
>>> naked or what?
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>>>
>>> So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes <
>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm
>>>> not sure why we are doing that.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>>>> > By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.
>>>> But
>>>> > don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer -
>>>> > stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way
>>>> > things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way,
>>>> it
>>>> > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it
>>>> > bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
>>>> >
>>>> > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a
>>>> N95
>>>> > so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear
>>>> > 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The
>>>> > quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do
>>>> anything
>>>> > that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big
>>>> > pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>> > *From: *"Steve Jones" 
>>>> > *To: *"af" 
>>>> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>>>> >
>>>> > The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
>>>> > >>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
>>>> >
>>>> > It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
>>>> >
>>>> > You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat,
>>>> out in
>>>> > large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from
>>>> getting
>>>> > infected?
>>>> >
>>>> > I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs
>>>> have
>>>> > helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
>>>> >
>>>> > The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't
>>>> cha
>>>> > know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing
>>>> through
>>>> > who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat
>>>> next to
>>>> > someone not in their immediate family.
>>>> >
>>>> > Do masks work?
>>>> >
>>>> > You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

Isnt that crazy? I wish they did the right thing and let the fbi pedo
patrol take a peek at that user list and ip access list

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 12:38 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

>
> https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rapper-bhad-bhabie-1-million-onlyfans-debut-six-hours
>
> >$23.99 per month for access to exclusive photos and videos on her
> OnlyFans page
>
> Holy shit.  That's 42k people in 6 hours.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does she sing or get
>> naked or what?
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>>
>> So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm
>>> not sure why we are doing that.
>>>
>>> On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>>> > By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.
>>> But
>>> > don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer -
>>> > stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way
>>> > things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way,
>>> it
>>> > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it
>>> > bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
>>> >
>>> > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a
>>> N95
>>> > so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear
>>> > 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The
>>> > quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do
>>> anything
>>> > that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big
>>> > pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> 
>>> > *From: *"Steve Jones" 
>>> > *To: *"af" 
>>> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>>> >
>>> > The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
>>> > >> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
>>> >
>>> > It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
>>> >
>>> > You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat,
>>> out in
>>> > large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from
>>> getting
>>> > infected?
>>> >
>>> > I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
>>> > helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
>>> >
>>> > The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't
>>> cha
>>> > know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing
>>> through
>>> > who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat
>>> next to
>>> > someone not in their immediate family.
>>> >
>>> > Do masks work?
>>> >
>>> > You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
>>> > COVID
>>> > and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
>>> > symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.
>>> >
>>> > We were both wearing masks.
>>> >
>>> > The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as
>>> long as
>>> > it doesn't harm others.
>>> >
>>> > I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think
>>> the
>>> > numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run
>>> gangbusters
>>> > into the contagion.   We'

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

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Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
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From: AF  On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 12:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

BTW, the gaylord is not in Dallas county. It is in the far better Tarrant 
county.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:22 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does she sing or get naked or 
what?

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes 
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
wrote:
I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm
not sure why we are doing that.

On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.  But
> don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer -
> stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way
> things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way, it
> didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it
> bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
>
> First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a N95
> so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear
> 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The
> quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do anything
> that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big
> pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
>
> 
> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
> *To: *"af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
> mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net%20%0b>> 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>
> And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
>
> It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
>
> You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat, out in
> large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from getting
> infected?
>
> I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
> helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
>
> The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha
> know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing through
> who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next to
> someone not in their immediate family.
>
> Do masks work?
>
> You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
> COVID
> and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
> symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.
>
> We were both wearing masks.
>
> The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long as
> it doesn't harm others.
>
> I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think the
> numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters
> into the contagion.   We're adults and can make decisions for
> ourselves.
>Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.
>
> On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>  > Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who
>  > actually get it that die or have some lingering issues.  Not to
> mention
>  > there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or the
>  > lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread.   It
> certainly has
>  > eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments!
>  >
>  > This is a situation  I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid
> off and
>  > go on with our lives.  Those who are at high risk should take
>  > precautions.  The quicker we develop this immunity as a human
> race,  the
>  > better off we are in the long run.
>  >
>  > People here and relatives I've talked to all across North America
> are
>  > all fed up and had enough of this nonsense.  It is only a matter
> of time
>  > befor

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does she sing or get naked
> or what?
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm
>> not sure why we are doing that.
>>
>> On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>> > By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.  But
>> > don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer -
>> > stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way
>> > things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way,
>> it
>> > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it
>> > bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
>> >
>> > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a N95
>> > so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear
>> > 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The
>> > quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do
>> anything
>> > that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big
>> > pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
>> >
>> > ----
>> > *From: *"Steve Jones" 
>> > *To: *"af" 
>> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>> >
>> > The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
>> > > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
>> >
>> > It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
>> >
>> > You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat,
>> out in
>> > large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from
>> getting
>> > infected?
>> >
>> > I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
>> > helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
>> >
>> > The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't
>> cha
>> > know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing
>> through
>> > who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next
>> to
>> > someone not in their immediate family.
>> >
>> > Do masks work?
>> >
>> > You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
>> > COVID
>> > and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
>> > symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.
>> >
>> > We were both wearing masks.
>> >
>> > The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long
>> as
>> > it doesn't harm others.
>> >
>> > I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think
>> the
>> > numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run
>> gangbusters
>> > into the contagion.   We're adults and can make decisions for
>> > ourselves.
>> >Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.
>> >
>> > On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>> >  > Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who
>> >  > actually get it that die or have some lingering issues.  Not to
>> > mention
>> >  > there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or
>> the
>> >  > lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread.   It
>> > certainly has
>> > 

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Cameron Crum]

BTW, the gaylord is not in Dallas county. It is in the far better Tarrant
county.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:22 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does she sing or get naked
> or what?
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm
>> not sure why we are doing that.
>>
>> On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>> > By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.  But
>> > don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer -
>> > stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way
>> > things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way,
>> it
>> > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it
>> > bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
>> >
>> > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a N95
>> > so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear
>> > 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The
>> > quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do
>> anything
>> > that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big
>> > pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
>> >
>> > 
>> > *From: *"Steve Jones" 
>> > *To: *"af" 
>> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>> >
>> > The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
>> > > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
>> >
>> > It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
>> >
>> > You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat,
>> out in
>> > large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from
>> getting
>> > infected?
>> >
>> > I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
>> > helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
>> >
>> > The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't
>> cha
>> > know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing
>> through
>> > who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next
>> to
>> > someone not in their immediate family.
>> >
>> > Do masks work?
>> >
>> > You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
>> > COVID
>> > and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
>> > symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.
>> >
>> > We were both wearing masks.
>> >
>> > The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long
>> as
>> > it doesn't harm others.
>> >
>> > I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think
>> the
>> > numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run
>> gangbusters
>> > into the contagion.   We're adults and can make decisions for
>> > ourselves.
>> >Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.
>> >
>> > On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>> >  > Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who
>> >  > actually get it that die or have some lingering issues.  Not to
>> > mention
>> >  > there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or
>> the
>> >  > lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread.   It
>> > certainly has
>> >  > eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments!
>> >  >
>> >  > This is a situation  I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid
&g

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Chuck McCown via AF]

So, what does a subscriber to her channel get?  Does she sing or get naked or 
what?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes  
wrote:

  I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm 
  not sure why we are doing that.

  On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
  > By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.  But 
  > don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer - 
  > stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way 
  > things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way, it 
  > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it 
  > bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
  > 
  > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a N95 
  > so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear 
  > 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The 
  > quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do anything 
  > that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big 
  > pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
  > 
  > 
  > *From: *"Steve Jones" 
  > *To: *"af" 
  > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
  > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
  > 
  > The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
  > 
  > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes 
  >  <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
  > 
  > And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
  > 
  > It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
  > 
  > You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat, out in
  > large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from getting
  > infected?
  > 
  > I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
  > helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
  > 
  > The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha
  > know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing through
  > who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next to
  > someone not in their immediate family.
  > 
  > Do masks work?
  > 
  > You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
  > COVID
  > and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
  > symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.
  > 
  > We were both wearing masks.
  > 
  > The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long as
  > it doesn't harm others.
  > 
  > I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think the
  > numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters
  > into the contagion.   We're adults and can make decisions for
  > ourselves.
  >Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.
  > 
  > On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
  >  > Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who
  >  > actually get it that die or have some lingering issues.  Not to
  > mention
  >  > there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or the
  >  > lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread.   It
  > certainly has
  >  > eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments!
  >  >
  >  > This is a situation  I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid
  > off and
  >  > go on with our lives.  Those who are at high risk should take
  >  > precautions.  The quicker we develop this immunity as a human
  > race,  the
  >  > better off we are in the long run.
  >  >
  >  > People here and relatives I've talked to all across North America
  > are
  >  > all fed up and had enough of this nonsense.  It is only a matter
  > of time
  >  > before people stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian
  >  > jackboots to get people to "conform".   The kool aid is running
  > out and
  >  > we'll start to see more and more states start going the way of Texas.
  >  >
  >  > Disclaimer:  It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should take
  >  > precautions to protect themselves.
  >   

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

So,anybody see the cashmeoutside girl made a million bucks on onlyfans

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:44 AM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm
> not sure why we are doing that.
>
> On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> > By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.  But
> > don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer -
> > stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way
> > things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way, it
> > didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it
> > bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.
> >
> > First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a N95
> > so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear
> > 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The
> > quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do anything
> > that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big
> > pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.
> >
> > 
> > *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> > *To: *"af" 
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> >
> > The best cheese is that that is handed down to you
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes
> >  > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> >
> > And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
> >
> > It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
> >
> > You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat, out
> in
> > large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from
> getting
> > infected?
> >
> > I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
> > helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
> >
> > The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha
> > know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing
> through
> > who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next
> to
> > someone not in their immediate family.
> >
> > Do masks work?
> >
> > You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
> > COVID
> > and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
> > symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.
> >
> > We were both wearing masks.
> >
> > The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long
> as
> > it doesn't harm others.
> >
> > I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think
> the
> > numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters
> > into the contagion.   We're adults and can make decisions for
> > ourselves.
> >Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.
> >
> > On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> >  > Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who
> >  > actually get it that die or have some lingering issues.  Not to
> > mention
> >  > there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or the
> >  > lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread.   It
> > certainly has
> >  > eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments!
> >  >
> >  > This is a situation  I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid
> > off and
> >  > go on with our lives.  Those who are at high risk should take
> >  > precautions.  The quicker we develop this immunity as a human
> > race,  the
> >  > better off we are in the long run.
> >  >
> >  > People here and relatives I've talked to all across North America
> > are
> >  > all fed up and had enough of this nonsense.  It is only a matter
> > of time
> >  > before people stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian
> >  > jackboots to get people to "conform".   The kool aid is running
> > out and
> >  > we'll start to see more and more states start going the way of
> Texas.
> >  >
> >  > Disclaimer:  It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Robert]

One point, there is no "time to mutate" False science begets false 
knowledge.   The virus mutates based upon number of copies made.   So 
higher infection rates ( Like getting everybody infected to reach herd 
immunity via infection ) produces more mutations, regardless of time 
frame.   And going that route in April of last year would have given us 
a host of mutations with no vaccine.   Yep you could have killed a full 
million by October on that route.   So don't mind if I ignore your 
"science" from here on out...
 The mask debacle was a mistake.   They should have trusted people 
with the truth, because they fought the battle against mask hoarders 
even with the false narrative.   They should have said even non-n95 
masks make a difference, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT. Took research and 
rediscovering what they knew way back when to figure it out again.


On 4/6/21 7:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.  
But don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer 
- stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way 
things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way, 
it didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it 
bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.


First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a 
N95 so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to 
wear 3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.  
 The quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do 
anything that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating 
for big pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing 
body.



*From: *"Steve Jones" 
*To: *"af" 
*Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

The best cheese is that that is handed down to you

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:


And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.

It's a year... maybe a year and a half.

You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat,
out in
large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from
getting
infected?

I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?

The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha
know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing
through
who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat
next to
someone not in their immediate family.

Do masks work?

You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
COVID
and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.

We were both wearing masks.

The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as
long as
it doesn't harm others.

I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think
the
numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters
into the contagion.   We're adults and can make decisions for
ourselves.
  Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.

On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who
> actually get it that die or have some lingering issues.  Not to
mention
> there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or the
> lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread.   It
certainly has
> eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments!
>
> This is a situation  I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid
off and
> go on with our lives.  Those who are at high risk should take
> precautions.  The quicker we develop this immunity as a human
race,  the
> better off we are in the long run.
>
> People here and relatives I've talked to all across North
America are
> all fed up and had enough of this nonsense.  It is only a matter
of time
> before people stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian
> jackboots to get people to "conform".   The kool aid is running
out and
> we'll start to see more and more states start going the way of
Texas.
>
> Disclaimer:  It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should take
> precautions to protect themselves.
>
>

> *From: *"Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" mailto:j...@brazoswifi.

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Matt Hoppes]

I agree the 2 and 3 mask clown show is just that.. a clown show.. I'm 
not sure why we are doing that.


On 4/6/21 10:29 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
By all means take any precaution you wish.  People at risk should.  But 
don't impose your beliefs on others.  If you see a non mask wearer - 
stay away from them.  Go ahead and live your life in fear.  The way 
things are going right now, this will never end.   We tried your way, it 
didn't work, it didn't even make a dent on the numbers.  In fact it 
bought the virus time to mutate and make things worse.


First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a N95 
so don't bother.  Then they said wear the mask,  now you need to wear 
3.   This is a clown show.  It is time to try a different way.   The 
quickest way to immunity and return to normal life.   If you do anything 
that prolongs that from happening you are clearly advocating for big 
pharma and the medical community to now be our new governing body.



*From: *"Steve Jones" 
*To: *"af" 
*Sent: *Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

The best cheese is that that is handed down to you

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:


And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.

It's a year... maybe a year and a half.

You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat, out in
large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from getting
infected?

I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?

The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha
know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing through
who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next to
someone not in their immediate family.

Do masks work?

You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got
COVID
and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.

We were both wearing masks.

The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long as
it doesn't harm others.

I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think the
numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters
into the contagion.   We're adults and can make decisions for
ourselves.
   Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.

On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
 > Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who
 > actually get it that die or have some lingering issues.  Not to
mention
 > there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or the
 > lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread.   It
certainly has
 > eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments!
 >
 > This is a situation  I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid
off and
 > go on with our lives.  Those who are at high risk should take
 > precautions.  The quicker we develop this immunity as a human
race,  the
 > better off we are in the long run.
 >
 > People here and relatives I've talked to all across North America
are
 > all fed up and had enough of this nonsense.  It is only a matter
of time
 > before people stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian
 > jackboots to get people to "conform".   The kool aid is running
out and
 > we'll start to see more and more states start going the way of Texas.
 >
 > Disclaimer:  It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should take
 > precautions to protect themselves.
 >
 >

 > *From: *"Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>>
 > *To: *"af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>, "Josh
Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
 > *Sent: *Monday, April 5, 2021 7:19:59 PM
 > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
 >
 > Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of
April 4th).
 >
 > Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.
 >
 > That's practically non-existent.
 >
 > Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their
life.
 >
 > Jim Bouse
 > Owner - Brazos WiFi
 > 979-985-5912
 > http://www.brazoswifi.com
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steven Kenney]

By all means take any precaution you wish. People at risk should. But don't 
impose your beliefs on others. If you see a non mask wearer - stay away from 
them. Go ahead and live your life in fear. The way things are going right now, 
this will never end. We tried your way, it didn't work, it didn't even make a 
dent on the numbers. In fact it bought the virus time to mutate and make things 
worse. 

First they said masks wouldn't work, you'd need a bare minimum of a N95 so 
don't bother. Then they said wear the mask, now you need to wear 3. This is a 
clown show. It is time to try a different way. The quickest way to immunity and 
return to normal life. If you do anything that prolongs that from happening you 
are clearly advocating for big pharma and the medical community to now be our 
new governing body. 


From: "Steve Jones"  
To: "af"  
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:59:42 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? 

The best cheese is that that is handed down to you 

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes < [ 
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net | mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net ] 
> wrote: 


And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish. 

It's a year... maybe a year and a half. 

You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat, out in 
large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from getting 
infected? 

I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have 
helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people? 

The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha 
know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing through 
who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next to 
someone not in their immediate family. 

Do masks work? 

You tell me  I was talking 4 feet from my SIL who somehow got COVID 
and so far I have no symptoms. This was 3 days before she shows 
symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know. 

We were both wearing masks. 

The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long as 
it doesn't harm others. 

I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think the 
numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters 
into the contagion. We're adults and can make decisions for ourselves. 
Just don't come see me after you've done that, please. 

On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: 
> Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who 
> actually get it that die or have some lingering issues. Not to mention 
> there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or the 
> lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread. It certainly has 
> eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments! 
> 
> This is a situation I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid off and 
> go on with our lives. Those who are at high risk should take 
> precautions. The quicker we develop this immunity as a human race, the 
> better off we are in the long run. 
> 
> People here and relatives I've talked to all across North America are 
> all fed up and had enough of this nonsense. It is only a matter of time 
> before people stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian 
> jackboots to get people to "conform". The kool aid is running out and 
> we'll start to see more and more states start going the way of Texas. 
> 
> Disclaimer: It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should take 
> precautions to protect themselves. 
> 
>  
> *From: *"Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" < [ mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com | 
> j...@brazoswifi.com ] > 
> *To: *"af" < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] >, "Josh Luthman" < 
> [ mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com | j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] > 
> *Sent: *Monday, April 5, 2021 7:19:59 PM 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? 
> 
> Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th). 
> 
> Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid. 
> 
> That's practically non-existent. 
> 
> Live life, or don't. Just don't complain when other's live their life. 
> 
> Jim Bouse 
> Owner - Brazos WiFi 
> 979-985-5912 
> [ http://www.brazoswifi.com/ | http://www.brazoswifi.com ] 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On 
> Behalf Of Matt Hoppes 
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM 
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | 
> af@af.afmug.com ] >; Josh Luthman 
> < [ mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com | j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] > 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPA

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

The best cheese is that that is handed down to you

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 7:53 AM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.
>
> It's a year... maybe a year and a half.
>
> You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat, out in
> large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from getting
> infected?
>
> I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have
> helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?
>
> The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha
> know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing through
> who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next to
> someone not in their immediate family.
>
> Do masks work?
>
> You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got COVID
> and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows
> symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.
>
> We were both wearing masks.
>
> The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long as
> it doesn't harm others.
>
> I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think the
> numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters
> into the contagion.   We're adults and can make decisions for ourselves.
>   Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.
>
> On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
> > Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who
> > actually get it that die or have some lingering issues.  Not to mention
> > there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or the
> > lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread.   It certainly has
> > eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments!
> >
> > This is a situation  I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid off and
> > go on with our lives.  Those who are at high risk should take
> > precautions.  The quicker we develop this immunity as a human race,  the
> > better off we are in the long run.
> >
> > People here and relatives I've talked to all across North America are
> > all fed up and had enough of this nonsense.  It is only a matter of time
> > before people stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian
> > jackboots to get people to "conform".   The kool aid is running out and
> > we'll start to see more and more states start going the way of Texas.
> >
> > Disclaimer:  It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should take
> > precautions to protect themselves.
> >
> > ------------
> > *From: *"Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" 
> > *To: *"af" , "Josh Luthman" <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> > *Sent: *Monday, April 5, 2021 7:19:59 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> >
> > Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th).
> >
> > Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.
> >
> > That's practically non-existent.
> >
> > Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their life.
> >
> > Jim Bouse
> > Owner - Brazos WiFi
> > 979-985-5912
> > http://www.brazoswifi.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> > Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> >
> > Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.
> >
> > Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.
> >
> > My County has about 34 new cases per day.
> >
> > On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >  > Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems
> >  > like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.
> >  >
> >  > Josh Luthman
> >  > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> >  > Direct: 937-552-2343
> >  > 1100 Wayne St
> >  > Suite 1337
> >  > Troy, OH 45373
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes
> >  >  >  > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Same here
> >  >
> >  > Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.
> >  >
> >  > On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> >  >  > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
> >  > attitud

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Matt Hoppes]

And this is the issue I have with us humans... selfish.

It's a year... maybe a year and a half.

You're telling me you can't avoid going out to bars, out to eat, out in 
large gatherings for a year and a half to help keep others from getting 
infected?


I'd argue there is a lot of evidence that masks and lock downs have 
helped -- how can you spread if you aren't out seeing people?


The issue comes because people say " yah... I'm at home don't cha 
know" but they were out to dinner with a friend who was passing through 
who they haven't seen in years and they went to church and sat next to 
someone not in their immediate family.


Do masks work?

You tell me  I was talking 4  feet from my SIL who somehow got COVID 
and so far I have no symptoms.  This was 3 days before she shows 
symptoms, so surely contagious by that point from what we know.


We were both wearing masks.

The cool thing about America is we can all do our own thing as long as 
it doesn't harm others.


I'll wear a mask and stay away from large gatherings until I think the 
numbers show it's safe to do otherwise -- and you can run gangbusters 
into the contagion.   We're adults and can make decisions for ourselves. 
 Just don't come see me after you've done that, please.


On 4/6/21 8:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who 
actually get it that die or have some lingering issues.  Not to mention 
there is little to no evidence or statistics that the masks or the 
lockdowns have prevented or even hindered the spread.   It certainly has 
eliminated the regular flu and all other similar ailments!


This is a situation  I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid off and 
go on with our lives.  Those who are at high risk should take 
precautions.  The quicker we develop this immunity as a human race,  the 
better off we are in the long run.


People here and relatives I've talked to all across North America are 
all fed up and had enough of this nonsense.  It is only a matter of time 
before people stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian 
jackboots to get people to "conform".   The kool aid is running out and 
we'll start to see more and more states start going the way of Texas.


Disclaimer:  It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should take 
precautions to protect themselves.



*From: *"Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" 
*To: *"af" , "Josh Luthman" 
*Sent: *Monday, April 5, 2021 7:19:59 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th).

Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.

That's practically non-existent.

Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their life.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.

Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.

My County has about 34 new cases per day.

On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 > Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems
 > like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.
 >
 > Josh Luthman
 > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 > Direct: 937-552-2343
 > 1100 Wayne St
 > Suite 1337
 > Troy, OH 45373
 >
 >
 > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes
 >  <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
 >
 >     Same here
 >
 >     Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.
 >
 >     On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
 >      > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
 >     attitude
 >      > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
 >      >
 >      > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
 >     mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
 >      > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 >     <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
 >      >
 >      >      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
 >      >
 >      >     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
 >      >
 >      >     Josh Luthman
 >      >     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 >      >     Direct: 937-552-2343
 >      >     1100 Wayne St
 >      >     Suite 1337
 >      >     Troy, OH 45373
 >      >
 >      >
 >      >     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
 >     mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
 >      >     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
 >      >
 >      >       

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Matt Hoppes]

Wow... PA is doing a horrible job... but that aside --

It's not the Texans that worry me.   It's that WISPAMERICA is a melting 
pot for folks from all over the country and the world.   You're 
literally bringing who knows what all together for a week of often close 
encounters.


On 4/6/21 4:41 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
The current population of Texas is 28.996 million, the current number of 
Texans fully vaccinated as of last Monday(apr5) is 4,561,336 and the as 
of last Monday 16,653,045 Texans have received 1 dose.  That appears to 
me to be immunity in action.


On 4/5/21 4:50 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
That is practically non-existent.. and is interesting.   Does that 
mean everyone there has already had it?


How can a county of 2.6 million have 300 cases a day but a county 
of 110,000 has 34-50 new cases a day?


On 4/5/21 7:19 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 
4th).


Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.

That's practically non-existent.

Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their life.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.

Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.

My County has about 34 new cases per day.

On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems
like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

 Same here

 Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.

 On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
  > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
 attitude
  > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
  >
  > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
  >
  >      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
  >
  >     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
  >
  >     Josh Luthman
  >     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  >     Direct: 937-552-2343
  >     1100 Wayne St
  >     Suite 1337
  >     Troy, OH 45373
  >
  >
  >     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
 mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
  >     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
  >
  >         I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s 
expense.
  >         I always got along with her just fine.  I thought 
she was

 a hoot.
  >         But if I was to make a joke it might have gone 
something like
  >         this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless 
they have
  >         some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of 
whisky in

 her hand.
  >         But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
  >         Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
  >         *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
  >         *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
  >         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
  >         We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
  >         We had basically decided a while ago to not do any 
business

  >         travel before June 1st, unless something major
 changed. So
  >         we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were 
waiting

 for was
  >         for either cases to settle down a lot more than they 
are even
  >         now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors 
down to

 where
  >         I was more comfortable in attending.
  >         As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for 
us to

 go as
  >         both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple 
of weeks
  >         before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor 
it's not
  >         really possible to get everything together that 
quickly to
  >         attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in 
progress we

  >         would have to put on hold which can't really be put on
 hold at
  >         this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
  >         Assuming everything continues trending in the right
 directio

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steven Kenney]

Take that percentage into consideration the amount of people who actually get 
it that die or have some lingering issues. Not to mention there is little to no 
evidence or statistics that the masks or the lockdowns have prevented or even 
hindered the spread. It certainly has eliminated the regular flu and all other 
similar ailments! 

This is a situation I think that we'll need to rip the bandaid off and go on 
with our lives. Those who are at high risk should take precautions. The quicker 
we develop this immunity as a human race, the better off we are in the long 
run. 

People here and relatives I've talked to all across North America are all fed 
up and had enough of this nonsense. It is only a matter of time before people 
stop abiding and it will take some serious orwellian jackboots to get people to 
"conform". The kool aid is running out and we'll start to see more and more 
states start going the way of Texas. 

Disclaimer: It is a nasty and deadly cold and people should take precautions to 
protect themselves. 


From: "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]"  
To: "af" , "Josh Luthman"  
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:19:59 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? 

Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th). 

Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid. 

That's practically non-existent. 

Live life, or don't. Just don't complain when other's live their life. 

Jim Bouse 
Owner - Brazos WiFi 
979-985-5912 
http://www.brazoswifi.com 

-Original Message- 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman 
 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? 

Texas: I'd be going to Dallas. 

Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh. 

My County has about 34 new cases per day. 

On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
> Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases? Hmm sure seems 
> like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count. 
> 
> Josh Luthman 
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes 
>  <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: 
> 
> Same here 
> 
> Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke. 
> 
> On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: 
> > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax 
> attitude 
> > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern. 
> > 
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman 
> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote: 
> > 
> > >Is her daughter still involved with the organization? 
> > 
> > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php 
> > 
> > Josh Luthman 
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 
> > Direct: 937-552-2343 
> > 1100 Wayne St 
> > Suite 1337 
> > Troy, OH 45373 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote: 
> > 
> > I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense. 
> > I always got along with her just fine. I thought she was 
> a hoot. 
> > But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like 
> > this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have 
> > some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in 
> her hand. 
> > But that would be mean, so I will refrain... 
> > Is her daughter still involved with the organization? 
> > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) 
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM 
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? 
> > We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall... 
> > We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business 
> > travel before June 1st, unless something major 
> changed. So 
> > we didn't make any plans. Part of what we were waiting 
> for was 
> > for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even 
> > now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to 
> where 
> > I was more comfortable in attending. 
> > As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to 
> go as 
> > both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks 
> > before the show. But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not 
> > really possible to get everything together that quickly to 
> > attend. Plus we have some internal projects in progress we 
> > would have to put o

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jan-GAMs]

The current population of Texas is 28.996 million, the current number of 
Texans fully vaccinated as of last Monday(apr5) is 4,561,336 and the as 
of last Monday 16,653,045 Texans have received 1 dose.  That appears to 
me to be immunity in action.


On 4/5/21 4:50 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
That is practically non-existent.. and is interesting.   Does that 
mean everyone there has already had it?


How can a county of 2.6 million have 300 cases a day but a county 
of 110,000 has 34-50 new cases a day?


On 4/5/21 7:19 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 
4th).


Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.

That's practically non-existent.

Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their life.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.

Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.

My County has about 34 new cases per day.

On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems
like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

 Same here

 Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.

 On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
  > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
 attitude
  > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
  >
  > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
  >
  >      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
  >
  >     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
  >
  >     Josh Luthman
  >     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  >     Direct: 937-552-2343
  >     1100 Wayne St
  >     Suite 1337
  >     Troy, OH 45373
  >
  >
  >     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
 mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
  >     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
  >
  >         I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s 
expense.
  >         I always got along with her just fine.  I thought 
she was

 a hoot.
  >         But if I was to make a joke it might have gone 
something like
  >         this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless 
they have
  >         some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of 
whisky in

 her hand.
  >         But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
  >         Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
  >         *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
  >         *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
  >         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
  >         We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
  >         We had basically decided a while ago to not do any 
business

  >         travel before June 1st, unless something major
 changed. So
  >         we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were 
waiting

 for was
  >         for either cases to settle down a lot more than they 
are even
  >         now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors 
down to

 where
  >         I was more comfortable in attending.
  >         As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for 
us to

 go as
  >         both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple 
of weeks
  >         before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor 
it's not
  >         really possible to get everything together that 
quickly to
  >         attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in 
progress we

  >         would have to put on hold which can't really be put on
 hold at
  >         this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
  >         Assuming everything continues trending in the right
 direction,
  >         we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think
 August that
  >         we're planning on attending.
  >         On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave
 mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
  >
  >             Im waiting for vegas show
  >
  >

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Erich Kaiser]

Amen.  I'll see you at the show!

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021, 6:21 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
wrote:

> Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th).
>
> Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.
>
> That's practically non-existent.
>
> Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their life.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.
>
> Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.
>
> My County has about 34 new cases per day.
>
> On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems
> > like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes
> >  > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Same here
> >
> > Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.
> >
> > On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> >  > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
> > attitude
> >  > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
> >  >
> >  > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
> > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> >  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
> >  >
> >  >  >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> >  >
> >  > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
> >  >
> >  > Josh Luthman
> >  > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> >  > Direct: 937-552-2343
> >  > 1100 Wayne St
> >  > Suite 1337
> >  > Troy, OH 45373
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
> > mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> >  > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
> >  > I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was
> > a hoot.
> >  > But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something
> like
> >  > this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they
> have
> >  > some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in
> > her hand.
> >  > But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
> >  > Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> >  > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> >  > *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> >  > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >  > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> >  > We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
> >  > We had basically decided a while ago to not do any
> business
> >  > travel before June 1st, unless something major
> > changed. So
> >  > we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting
> > for was
> >  > for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are
> even
> >  > now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to
> > where
> >  > I was more comfortable in attending.
> >  > As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to
> > go as
> >  > both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of
> weeks
> >  > before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
> >  > really possible to get everything together that quickly to
> >  > attend.Plus we have some internal projects in
> progress we
> >  > would have to put on hold which can't really be put on
> > hold at
> >  > this point.   So we're going to h

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Matt Hoppes]

I'll live my life just the same way I climb towers -- safely.I 
don't climb without a harness I don't go into large groups when 
COVID is around.


Now we'll see... I might be COVID inoculated a few more days and 
I'll know.


On 4/5/21 7:19 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th).

Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.

That's practically non-existent.

Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their life.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.

Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.

My County has about 34 new cases per day.

On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems
like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

 Same here

 Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.

 On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
  > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
 attitude
  > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
  >
  > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
  >
  >      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
  >
  >     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
  >
  >     Josh Luthman
  >     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  >     Direct: 937-552-2343
  >     1100 Wayne St
  >     Suite 1337
  >     Troy, OH 45373
  >
  >
  >     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
 mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
  >     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
  >
  >         I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
  >         I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was
 a hoot.
  >         But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
  >         this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
  >         some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in
 her hand.
  >         But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
  >         Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
  >         *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
  >         *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
  >         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
  >         We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
  >         We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
  >         travel before June 1st, unless something major
 changed. So
  >         we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting
 for was
  >         for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
  >         now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to
 where
  >         I was more comfortable in attending.
  >         As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to
 go as
  >         both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
  >         before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
  >         really possible to get everything together that quickly to
  >         attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
  >         would have to put on hold which can't really be put on
 hold at
  >         this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
  >         Assuming everything continues trending in the right
 direction,
  >         we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think
 August that
  >         we're planning on attending.
  >         On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave
 mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
  >
  >             Im waiting for vegas show
  >
  >
  >             On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  >>             Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know
 I'll be
  >>             there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
  >>             Josh Luthman
  >>      

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Matt Hoppes]

That is practically non-existent.. and is interesting.   Does that mean 
everyone there has already had it?


How can a county of 2.6 million have 300 cases a day but a county of 
110,000 has 34-50 new cases a day?


On 4/5/21 7:19 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th).

Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.

That's practically non-existent.

Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their life.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.

Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.

My County has about 34 new cases per day.

On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems
like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

 Same here

 Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.

 On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
  > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
 attitude
  > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
  >
  > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
  >
  >      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
  >
  >     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
  >
  >     Josh Luthman
  >     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  >     Direct: 937-552-2343
  >     1100 Wayne St
  >     Suite 1337
  >     Troy, OH 45373
  >
  >
  >     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
 mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
  >     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
  >
  >         I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
  >         I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was
 a hoot.
  >         But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
  >         this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
  >         some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in
 her hand.
  >         But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
  >         Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
  >         *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
  >         *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
  >         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
  >         We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
  >         We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
  >         travel before June 1st, unless something major
 changed. So
  >         we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting
 for was
  >         for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
  >         now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to
 where
  >         I was more comfortable in attending.
  >         As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to
 go as
  >         both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
  >         before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
  >         really possible to get everything together that quickly to
  >         attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
  >         would have to put on hold which can't really be put on
 hold at
  >         this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
  >         Assuming everything continues trending in the right
 direction,
  >         we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think
 August that
  >         we're planning on attending.
  >         On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave
 mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
  >
  >             Im waiting for vegas show
  >
  >
  >             On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  >>             Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know
 I'll be
  >>             there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
  >>             Josh Luthman
  >>            

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Dallas county (2.6 million people) has 300 cases a day (as of April 4th).

Quick math says that’s 0.01% of the population has covid.  

That's practically non-existent.

Live life, or don't.  Just don't complain when other's live their life.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Josh Luthman 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.

Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.

My County has about 34 new cases per day.

On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems 
> like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes 
>  <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> 
> Same here
> 
> Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.
> 
> On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>  > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
> attitude
>  > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
>  >
>  > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
>  >
>  >      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>  >
>  >     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
>  >
>  >     Josh Luthman
>  >     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>  >     Direct: 937-552-2343
>  >     1100 Wayne St
>  >     Suite 1337
>  >     Troy, OH 45373
>  >
>  >
>  >     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
> mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>  >     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
>  >
>  >         I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
>  >         I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was
> a hoot.
>  >         But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
>  >         this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
>  >         some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in
> her hand.
>  >         But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>  >         Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>  >         *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>  >         *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
>  >         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>  >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>  >         We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>  >         We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
>  >         travel before June 1st, unless something major
> changed. So
>  >         we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting
> for was
>  >         for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
>  >         now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to
> where
>  >         I was more comfortable in attending.
>  >         As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to
> go as
>  >         both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
>  >         before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
>  >         really possible to get everything together that quickly to
>  >         attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
>  >         would have to put on hold which can't really be put on
> hold at
>  >         this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
>  >         Assuming everything continues trending in the right
> direction,
>  >         we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think
> August that
>  >         we're planning on attending.
>  >         On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave
> mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
>  >
>  >             Im waiting for vegas show
>  >
>  >
>  >             On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>  >>             Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know
> I'll be
>  >>             there.  Be ni

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Matt Hoppes]

Texas: I'd be going to Dallas.

Pennsylvania: I'm no where near Philly or Pittsburgh.

My County has about 34 new cases per day.

On 4/5/21 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems like 
you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.


Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:


Same here

Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.

On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
 > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
attitude
 > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
 >
 > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
 > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
 >
 >      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
 >
 >     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
 >
 >     Josh Luthman
 >     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 >     Direct: 937-552-2343
 >     1100 Wayne St
 >     Suite 1337
 >     Troy, OH 45373
 >
 >
 >     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
 >     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
 >
 >         I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
 >         I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was
a hoot.
 >         But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
 >         this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
 >         some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in
her hand.
 >         But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
 >         Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
 >         *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
 >         *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
 >         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
 >         We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
 >         We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
 >         travel before June 1st, unless something major
changed. So
 >         we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting
for was
 >         for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
 >         now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to
where
 >         I was more comfortable in attending.
 >         As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to
go as
 >         both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
 >         before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
 >         really possible to get everything together that quickly to
 >         attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
 >         would have to put on hold which can't really be put on
hold at
 >         this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
 >         Assuming everything continues trending in the right
direction,
 >         we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think
August that
 >         we're planning on attending.
 >         On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave
mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
 >
 >             Im waiting for vegas show
 >
 >
 >             On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 >>             Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know
I'll be
 >>             there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
 >>             Josh Luthman
 >>             24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 >>             Direct: 937-552-2343
 >>             1100 Wayne St
 >>             Suite 1337
 >>             Troy, OH 45373
 >>             On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
 >>             mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:
 >>
 >>                 Sam,
 >>
 >>                 I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good
 >>                 all things considering... but probably 2017-2018
type
 >>                 attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for
 >>                 WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
 >>
 >>                 WA historically has been the "engineering" show.
 >>                 Deeper dives.  A

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Here's the deal:

Without the vaccine, if you come in contact with the virus in a high enough
dose to catch it, you're almost certain to catch it.

If you catch it and have high-risk medical conditions, you have an
unreasonable chance of ending up dead.

Even if you don't end up dead, there is a very good chance that you'll have
long-term damage as a result of the virus.   Heart problems.  Lung
Problems.   Brain function problems.

Vaccinations reduce the chance of catching COVID to something like 10% for
Pfizer.

Plus, if you do catch it, the severity of the disease is much reduced.
 All of the vaccines are almost 100% effective at preventing
hospitalizations and death.

This means that with the vaccine, we're more in the statistical range (or
less) of dying or having long-term effects from the Flu.   I'm willing to
take that chance.

The only wildcard here is the variants, and if we'll squash this before
there is a nasty variant that pops up which gets around the vaccine.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:40 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting
> immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later.
>
> I'm not sure how we finally get out of this.
>
> On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude
> > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >
> >  >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> >
> > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF  > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
> > I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
> > But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
> > this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
> > some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her
> hand.
> > But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
> > Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> > We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
> > We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
> > travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
> > we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
> > for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
> > now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
> > I was more comfortable in attending.
> > As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
> > both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
> > before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
> > really possible to get everything together that quickly to
> > attend.Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
> > would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
> > this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
> > Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction,
> > we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that
> > we're planning on attending.
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave 
> wrote:
> >
> > Im waiting for vegas show
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
> >> there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Sam,
> >>
> >> I'll be there.  I th

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[David Coudron]

As was mentioned elsewhere in this this thread, let’s not start down this path. 
  I don’t think links like this are helpful and this is going to end up in a 
political discussion (again).

If you want to go to WiSPAmerica, go.   If you don’t want to go, don’t go.   No 
need to debate or tell anyone why.   


From: AF  On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 1:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-antiscience-movement-is-escalating-going-global-and-killing-thousands/?utm_source=newsletter_medium=email_campaign=week-in-science_content=link_term=2021-04-02_featured-this-week=69913967=MjUwODYxOTU1OTU5S0=2100344217=MjEwMDM0NDIxNwS2

Natural selection doesn't work fast enough
On 4/5/21 10:33 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
https://shop.fctry.com/products/dr-fauci-action-figure this is what its all 
about

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:23 PM Mike Hammett 
mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
There is a lot of false reporting by fearmongers in the extremes on both sides 
of the situation.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Erich Kaiser" 
mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
If it gives me a chance not to die from Covid and lessen the symptoms if I do 
get it, I will take it.  Thats what these vaccines are supposed to do.  Pfizer 
and Moderna are supposed to be like 80% effective 2 weeks after first 
vaccination.I am getting my second vaccination for Moderna in about a week 
or so and the process to get it was simple and well organized.  I think the 
biggest problem is false reporting of possible cases being touted as positive 
cases.



On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:40 AM Matt Hoppes 
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
wrote:
Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting
immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later.

I'm not sure how we finally get out of this.

On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude
> towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman 
> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> 
> wrote:
>
>  >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>
> Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
>
> I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
> I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
> But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
> this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
> some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her hand.
> But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
> Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
> travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
> we didn't m

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jan-GAMs]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-antiscience-movement-is-escalating-going-global-and-killing-thousands/?utm_source=newsletter_medium=email_campaign=week-in-science_content=link_term=2021-04-02_featured-this-week=69913967=MjUwODYxOTU1OTU5S0=2100344217=MjEwMDM0NDIxNwS2 
<https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-antiscience-movement-is-escalating-going-global-and-killing-thousands/?utm_source=newsletter_medium=email_campaign=week-in-science_content=link_term=2021-04-02_featured-this-week=69913967=MjUwODYxOTU1OTU5S0=2100344217=MjEwMDM0NDIxNwS2>


Natural selection doesn't work fast enough

On 4/5/21 10:33 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
https://shop.fctry.com/products/dr-fauci-action-figure 
<https://shop.fctry.com/products/dr-fauci-action-figure> this is what 
its all about


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:23 PM Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:


There is a lot of false reporting by fearmongers in the extremes
on both sides of the situation.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Erich Kaiser" mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Monday, April 5, 2021 12:10:09 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

If it gives me a chance not to die from Covid and lessen the
symptoms if I do get it, I will take it.  Thats what these
vaccines are supposed to do.  Pfizer and Moderna are supposed to
be like 80% effective 2 weeks after first vaccination. I am
getting my second vaccination for Moderna in about a week or so
and the process to get it was simple and well organized.  I think
the biggest problem is false reporting of possible cases being
touted as positive cases.



On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:40 AM Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting
immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later.

I'm not sure how we finally get out of this.

On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
attitude
> towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
>
>      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>
>     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
<https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php>
>
>     Josh Luthman
>     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>     Direct: 937-552-2343
>     1100 Wayne St
>     Suite 1337
>     Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
>
>         I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
>         I always got along with her just fine.  I thought
she was a hoot.
>         But if I was to make a joke it might have gone
something like
>         this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless
they have
>         some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of
whisky in her hand.
>         But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>         Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>         *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>         *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
>         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>         We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>         We had basically decided a while ago to not do any
business
>         travel bef

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

https://shop.fctry.com/products/dr-fauci-action-figure this is what its all
about

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:23 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> There is a lot of false reporting by fearmongers in the extremes on both
> sides of the situation.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Monday, April 5, 2021 12:10:09 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> If it gives me a chance not to die from Covid and lessen the symptoms if I
> do get it, I will take it.  Thats what these vaccines are supposed to do.
> Pfizer and Moderna are supposed to be like 80% effective 2 weeks after
> first vaccination.I am getting my second vaccination for Moderna in
> about a week or so and the process to get it was simple and well
> organized.  I think the biggest problem is false reporting of possible
> cases being touted as positive cases.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:40 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting
>> immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later.
>>
>> I'm not sure how we finally get out of this.
>>
>> On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>> > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude
>> > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >  >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>> >
>> > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
>> > I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a
>> hoot.
>> > But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
>> > this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
>> > some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her
>> hand.
>> > But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>> > Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>> > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
>> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>> > We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>> > We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
>> > travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
>> > we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
>> > for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
>> > now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
>> > I was more comfortable in attending.
>> > As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
>> > both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
>> > before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
>> > really possible to get everything together that quickly to
>> > attend.Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
>> > would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
>> > this point.   So we're going to have to m

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Mike Hammett]

There is a lot of false reporting by fearmongers in the extremes on both sides 
of the situation. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Erich Kaiser"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:10:09 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? 




If it gives me a chance not to die from Covid and lessen the symptoms if I do 
get it, I will take it. Thats what these vaccines are supposed to do. Pfizer 
and Moderna are supposed to be like 80% effective 2 weeks after first 
vaccination. I am getting my second vaccination for Moderna in about a week or 
so and the process to get it was simple and well organized. I think the biggest 
problem is false reporting of possible cases being touted as positive cases. 













On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:40 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> wrote: 


Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting 
immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later. 

I'm not sure how we finally get out of this. 

On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: 
> I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude 
> towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern. 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> > wrote: 
> 
> >Is her daughter still involved with the organization? 
> 
> Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php 
> 
> Josh Luthman 
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com 
> > wrote: 
> 
> I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense. 
> I always got along with her just fine. I thought she was a hoot. 
> But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like 
> this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have 
> some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her hand. 
> But that would be mean, so I will refrain... 
> Is her daughter still involved with the organization? 
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) 
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM 
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? 
> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall... 
> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business 
> travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So 
> we didn't make any plans. Part of what we were waiting for was 
> for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even 
> now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where 
> I was more comfortable in attending. 
> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as 
> both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks 
> before the show. But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not 
> really possible to get everything together that quickly to 
> attend. Plus we have some internal projects in progress we 
> would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at 
> this point. So we're going to have to miss this one. 
> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, 
> we'll be in vegas. We also have a show in I think August that 
> we're planning on attending. 
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote: 
> 
> Im waiting for vegas show 
> 
> 
> On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
>> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be 
>> there. Be nice to see people in person finally. 
>> Josh Luthman 
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St 
>> Suite 1337 
>> Troy, OH 45373 
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White 
>> < dwh...@atheral.com > wrote: 
>> 
>> Sam, 
>> 
>> I'll be there. I think turn-out will be pretty good 
>> all things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type 
>> attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for 
>> WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled. 
>> 
>> WA historically has been the "engineering" show. 
>> Deeper dives. An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing 
>> their deep dives like the old and much cherished 
>> Animal Farm shows). Turn-out is always smaller 
>> because there are less business/accounting/HR focused 
>> tracks. 
>> 
>> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA 
>> has a very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA. I love 
>> both shows (and I'm not just saying that). 
>> 
>> photograph 
>> Daniel White 
>> Co-Found

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Erich Kaiser]

If it gives me a chance not to die from Covid and lessen the symptoms if I
do get it, I will take it.  Thats what these vaccines are supposed to do.
Pfizer and Moderna are supposed to be like 80% effective 2 weeks after
first vaccination.I am getting my second vaccination for Moderna in
about a week or so and the process to get it was simple and well
organized.  I think the biggest problem is false reporting of possible
cases being touted as positive cases.



On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:40 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting
> immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later.
>
> I'm not sure how we finally get out of this.
>
> On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude
> > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >
> >  >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> >
> > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF  > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
> > I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
> > But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
> > this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
> > some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her
> hand.
> > But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
> > Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> > We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
> > We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
> > travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
> > we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
> > for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
> > now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
> > I was more comfortable in attending.
> > As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
> > both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
> > before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
> > really possible to get everything together that quickly to
> > attend.Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
> > would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
> > this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
> > Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction,
> > we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that
> > we're planning on attending.
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave 
> wrote:
> >
> > Im waiting for vegas show
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
> >> there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Sam,
> >>
> >> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good
> >> all things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type
> >> attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for
> >> WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
> >>
> >> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.
> >> Deeper dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing
> >> their deep dives like the old 

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Robert Andrews]

The important part of that is that they are testing positive with minor 
symptoms, unless you have some hard reports of more severe cases?   But 
minor symptoms can still make you contagious to someone who isn't 
immunized or if both aren't masked.


On 04/05/2021 08:39 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting 
immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later.


I'm not sure how we finally get out of this.

On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude 
towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


 >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?

Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her 
hand.

But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
I was more comfortable in attending.
As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
really possible to get everything together that quickly to
attend.Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction,
we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that
we're planning on attending.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  
wrote:


Im waiting for vegas show


On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
 wrote:

Sam,

I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good
all things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type
attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for
WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.

WA historically has been the "engineering" show.
Deeper dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing
their deep dives like the old and much cherished
Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller
because there are less business/accounting/HR focused
tracks.

Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA
has a very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love
both shows (and I'm not just saying that).

photograph
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone:+1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


Sam Lambie
March 30, 2021 at 14:00
Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if
there will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of
times, is this any more informative and better
organized or??
-- -- *Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>




 

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

[image: road to hell.jpg]

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:32 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> We probably shouldn't continue down this road
> On 4/5/2021 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems like
> you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Same here
>>
>> Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.
>>
>> On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>> > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude
>> > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >  >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>> >
>> > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
>> > I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a
>> hoot.
>> > But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
>> > this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
>> > some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her
>> hand.
>> > But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>> > Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>> > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
>> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>> > We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>> > We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
>> > travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
>> > we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
>> > for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
>> > now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
>> > I was more comfortable in attending.
>> > As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
>> > both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
>> > before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
>> > really possible to get everything together that quickly to
>> > attend.Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
>> > would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
>> > this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
>> > Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction,
>> > we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that
>> > we're planning on attending.
>> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Im waiting for vegas show
>> >
>> >
>> > On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> >> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
>> >> there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
>> >> Josh Luthman
>> >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>> >> Suite 1337
>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sam,
>> >>
>> >> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good
>> >> all things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type
>> >> attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for
>> >> WISPAmerica

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Adam Moffett]

We probably shouldn't continue down this road

On 4/5/2021 12:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems 
like you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.


Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:


Same here

Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.

On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax
attitude
> towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
>
>      >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>
>     Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
<https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php>
>
>     Josh Luthman
>     24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>     Direct: 937-552-2343
>     1100 Wayne St
>     Suite 1337
>     Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>     On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> wrote:
>
>         I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
>         I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she
was a hoot.
>         But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something
like
>         this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
>         some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in
her hand.
>         But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>         Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>         *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
    >         *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
>         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>         We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>         We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
>         travel before June 1st, unless something major
changed. So
>         we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting
for was
>         for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are
even
>         now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down
to where
>         I was more comfortable in attending.
>         As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us
to go as
>         both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
>         before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
>         really possible to get everything together that quickly to
>         attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in
progress we
>         would have to put on hold which can't really be put on
hold at
>         this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
>         Assuming everything continues trending in the right
direction,
>         we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think
August that
>         we're planning on attending.
>         On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave
mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
>
>             Im waiting for vegas show
>
>
>             On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>             Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know
I'll be
>>             there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
>>             Josh Luthman
>>             24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>             Direct: 937-552-2343
>>             1100 Wayne St
>>             Suite 1337
>>             Troy, OH 45373
>>             On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
>>             mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Sam,
>>
>>                 I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty
good
>>                 all things considering... but probably
2017-2018 type
>>                 attendance levels than what WISPA was
projecting for
>>                 WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
>>
>>                 WA historically has been the "engineering" show.
>>                 Deeper dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors
doing
>>            

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Josh Luthman]

a) it's 80-95% effective
b) it takes two weeks after the second dose (moderna & pfizer) to build
this immunity

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:40 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting
> immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later.
>
> I'm not sure how we finally get out of this.
>
> On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude
> > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >
> >  >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> >
> > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF  > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
> > I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
> > But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
> > this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
> > some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her
> hand.
> > But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
> > Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> > We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
> > We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
> > travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
> > we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
> > for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
> > now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
> > I was more comfortable in attending.
> > As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
> > both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
> > before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
> > really possible to get everything together that quickly to
> > attend.Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
> > would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
> > this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
> > Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction,
> > we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that
> > we're planning on attending.
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave 
> wrote:
> >
> > Im waiting for vegas show
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
> >> there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Sam,
> >>
> >> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good
> >> all things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type
> >> attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for
> >> WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
> >>
> >> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.
> >> Deeper dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing
> >> their deep dives like the old and much cherished
> >> Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller
> >> because there are less business/accounting/HR focused
> >> tracks.
> >>
> >> 

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Josh Luthman]

Even though Pennsylvania has THREE TIMES the cases?  Hmm sure seems like
you'd want to be in Texas with their lesser case count.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:39 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Same here
>
> Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.
>
> On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> > I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude
> > towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >
> >  >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> >
> > Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF  > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
> > I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
> > But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
> > this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
> > some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her
> hand.
> > But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
> > Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
> >     *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> > We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
> > We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
> > travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
> > we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
> > for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
> > now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
> > I was more comfortable in attending.
> > As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
> > both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
> > before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
> > really possible to get everything together that quickly to
> > attend.Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
> > would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
> > this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
> > Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction,
> > we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that
> > we're planning on attending.
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave 
> wrote:
> >
> > Im waiting for vegas show
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
> >> there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Sam,
> >>
> >> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good
> >> all things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type
> >> attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for
> >> WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
> >>
> >> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.
> >> Deeper dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing
> >> their deep dives like the old and much cherished
> >> Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller
> >> because there are less business/accounting/HR focused
> >> tracks.
> >>
> >> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA
> >>

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Adam Moffett]

When I got my shots there were hundreds of people at the vaccination 
site, and it's 10-14 days after the second shot that you have maximum 
effect.  So I've definitely wondered how many people end up getting 
infected at the vaccination site.



On 4/5/2021 11:39 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting 
immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later.


I'm not sure how we finally get out of this.

On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude 
towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> 
wrote:


 >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?

    Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php

    Josh Luthman
    24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373


    On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

    I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
    I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a 
hoot.

    But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
    this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
    some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her 
hand.

    But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
    Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
    *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
    *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
    We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
    We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
    travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
    we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
    for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
    now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
    I was more comfortable in attending.
    As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
    both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
    before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
    really possible to get everything together that quickly to
    attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
    would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
    this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
    Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction,
    we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that
    we're planning on attending.
    On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  
wrote:


    Im waiting for vegas show


    On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

    Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
    there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
    Josh Luthman
    24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373
    On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
     wrote:

    Sam,

    I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good
    all things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type
    attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for
    WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.

    WA historically has been the "engineering" show.
    Deeper dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing
    their deep dives like the old and much cherished
    Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller
    because there are less business/accounting/HR focused
    tracks.

    Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA
    has a very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA. I love
    both shows (and I'm not just saying that).

    photograph
    Daniel White
    Co-Founder
    phone:+1 (702) 470-2770
    direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


    Sam Lambie
    March 30, 2021 at 14:00
    Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if
    there will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
    I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of
    times, is this any more informative and better
    organized or??
    --     --     *Sam Lambie*
    Taosnet Wireless Tech.
    575-758-7598 Office
    www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>




 

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Matt Hoppes]

Forrest - keep in mind there are lots of reports of folks getting 
immunizes and then contracting COVID weeks later.


I'm not sure how we finally get out of this.

On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude 
towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


 >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?

Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her hand.
But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
I was more comfortable in attending.
As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
really possible to get everything together that quickly to
attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction,
we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that
we're planning on attending.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  wrote:

Im waiting for vegas show


On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
 wrote:

Sam,

I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good
all things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type
attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for
WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.

WA historically has been the "engineering" show.
Deeper dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing
their deep dives like the old and much cherished
Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller
because there are less business/accounting/HR focused
tracks.

Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA
has a very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love
both shows (and I'm not just saying that).

photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone:+1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


Sam Lambie
March 30, 2021 at 14:00
Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if
there will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of
times, is this any more informative and better
organized or??
-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*

Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>




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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Matt Hoppes]

Same here

Texas clearly thinks this whole thing is a joke.

On 4/5/21 11:36 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude 
towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


 >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?

Yes. https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like
this: No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have
some broad walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her hand.
But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business
travel before June 1st, unless something major changed. So
we didn't make any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was
for either cases to settle down a lot more than they are even
now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where
I was more comfortable in attending.
As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as
both Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks
before the show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not
really possible to get everything together that quickly to
attend.    Plus we have some internal projects in progress we
would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction,
we'll be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that
we're planning on attending.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  wrote:

Im waiting for vegas show


On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White
 wrote:

Sam,

I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good
all things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type
attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting for
WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.

WA historically has been the "engineering" show.
Deeper dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing
their deep dives like the old and much cherished
Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller
because there are less business/accounting/HR focused
tracks.

Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA
has a very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love
both shows (and I'm not just saying that).

photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone:+1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


Sam Lambie
March 30, 2021 at 14:00
Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if
there will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of
times, is this any more informative and better
organized or??
-- 
-- 
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Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>




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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Sam Lambie]

I am not going to the show this year. Texas politics and lax attitude
towards a pandemic and other issues is a big concern.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:19 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> >Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>
> Yes.  https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
>>
>> I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
>>
>> But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like this:  No
>> way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have some broad walking the
>> floor with a tumbler of whisky in her hand.
>>
>> But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>>
>> Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>>
>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>>
>> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>>
>> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel before
>> June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make any
>> plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to settle
>> down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to reduce my
>> risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>>
>> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
>> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the show.
>> But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get everything
>> together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some internal projects in
>> progress we would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
>> this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
>>
>> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll be
>> in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're planning on
>> attending.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  wrote:
>>
>>> Im waiting for vegas show
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be
>>> nice to see people in person finally.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sam,
>>>>
>>>> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things
>>>> considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what
>>>> WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
>>>>
>>>> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An
>>>> "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and much
>>>> cherished Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because there are
>>>> less business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very
>>>> different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just
>>>> saying that).
>>>>
>>>> [image: photograph]
>>>> Daniel White
>>>> Co-Founder
>>>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>>>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>>>>
>>>> Sam Lambie
>>>> March 30, 2021 at 14:00
>>>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
>>>> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
>>>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any
>>>> more informative and better organized or??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Josh Luthman]

>Is her daughter still involved with the organization?

Yes.  https://www.wispa.org/wispa_staff.php

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.
>
> I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.
>
> But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like this:  No
> way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have some broad walking the
> floor with a tumbler of whisky in her hand.
>
> But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>
> Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>
> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel before
> June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make any
> plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to settle
> down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to reduce my
> risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>
> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the show.
> But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get everything
> together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some internal projects in
> progress we would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
> this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
>
> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll be in
> vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're planning on
> attending.
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  wrote:
>
>> Im waiting for vegas show
>>
>>
>> On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be
>> nice to see people in person finally.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White  wrote:
>>
>>> Sam,
>>>
>>> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things
>>> considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what
>>> WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
>>>
>>> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An
>>> "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and much
>>> cherished Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because there are
>>> less business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>>>
>>> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very
>>> different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just
>>> saying that).
>>>
>>> [image: photograph]
>>> Daniel White
>>> Co-Founder
>>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>>>
>>> Sam Lambie
>>> March 30, 2021 at 14:00
>>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
>>> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
>>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any
>>> more informative and better organized or??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Bill Prince]

I might argue with that statement. New cases in Texas right now is 
running about 3,500 per day, and active cases is right about 100,000.


Only about 100 are dying per day, so if that's what you're referring to, 
maybe that's OK.


bp


On 4/1/2021 6:35 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

In most states, if you want a covid shot, you will have it by the show.
The single shot effectiveness is 70-80% depending on which study you read.

So, lets break it down: Very few people are infected with covid in Texas.  Most 
people who want a shot will have their first shot by the show, yielding them 
70-80% immune to a disease that very few people would be ill with.
Your likelihood of encountering the covid virus is very low and most people's 
immunity will already be in place yielding a very low risk threshold.

I'm be more concerned with the drive to the airport than picking up covid from 
the conference.

Now, of course it makes sense to be careful but the paranoia has got to stop at 
some point.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 8:00 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

That answer would be totally ignoring the question.   Texas isn't a mask 
requirement state and what numbers they are reporting might not have any 
relationship to the actual state of the disease at the time of the conference.  
Wear a mask, maintain distance, don't eat indoors or go to bars.   Don't touch 
your face with your hands unless you have disinfected your hands.   Remember 
how well they prepared for an ice storm for their citizens.  Remember that 
their representatives get out of town when there are problems in town.


On 4/1/21 5:46 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

Don't lick the doorknobs.  You'll be fine.

Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the show rolls 
around.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?

Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...

We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make
any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to
reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.

As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the
show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some
internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't
really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss
this one.

Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll
be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're
planning on attending.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:

  Im waiting for vegas show


  On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
  there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.

  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:

  Sam,

  I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all
  things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance
  levels than what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020
  before it was canceled.

  WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper
  dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep
  dives like the old and much cherished Animal Farm shows).
  Turn-out is always smaller because there are less
  business/accounting/HR focused tracks.

  Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a
  very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows
  (and I'm not just saying that).

  photograph
  Daniel White
  Co-Founder
  phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
  direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


  Sam Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>
  March 30, 2021 at 14:00
  Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there
  will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
  I've been to the L

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

Like everywhere else in 2021, wispa will have to make a decision on the
color of their shirt vs the color of their money (hint, green always beats
brown).
2020 didnt help them, luckily, they got out of the politics of a 2020 event.
 They dont have the easy out this year. Percieved "safety" or real money,
for an issue that will be gone by the 2022 season. Will they risk 60
percent of their membership? Will be interesting to see. I know for a fact
that their decisions in 2 weeks will define a pretty large number of
renewal decisions.
I would not want to be in their shoes

They're going to alienate a large percentage of their membership no matter
their decision, but that's the sexy part of a free market capitalist
economy, those with the deepest pockets in washington get the most members.

To be honest, theres one guy who could navigate this river of shit and have
wispa walk out smelling like a rose, if they were smart, they'd remember
which whiskey Rick likes best and get him a case of it, as well as a hefty
consultant fee for 2021 to keep the memberships political diversity
directed in the same path.

That claude fella seems like a good BS artist, but hes no Rick, the last
couple years being the proofed pudding of that. I dont know if Rick's full
of shit, or honest, but he has a way of finding that minute section of the
road where nobody is mad enough to stab anyone else.

Also, Vegas. Nope, theres only one place in the planet I'll never go, its
vegas, I'll swim in a texas porta potty in August, or cross the golden gate
bridge before I ever go to vegas. That place is designed for scumbags like
me.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021, 8:36 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
wrote:

> In most states, if you want a covid shot, you will have it by the show.
> The single shot effectiveness is 70-80% depending on which study you read.
>
> So, lets break it down: Very few people are infected with covid in Texas.
> Most people who want a shot will have their first shot by the show,
> yielding them 70-80% immune to a disease that very few people would be ill
> with.
> Your likelihood of encountering the covid virus is very low and most
> people's immunity will already be in place yielding a very low risk
> threshold.
>
> I'm be more concerned with the drive to the airport than picking up covid
> from the conference.
>
> Now, of course it makes sense to be careful but the paranoia has got to
> stop at some point.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 8:00 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> That answer would be totally ignoring the question.   Texas isn't a mask
> requirement state and what numbers they are reporting might not have any
> relationship to the actual state of the disease at the time of the
> conference.  Wear a mask, maintain distance, don't eat indoors or go to
> bars.   Don't touch your face with your hands unless you have disinfected
> your hands.   Remember how well they prepared for an ice storm for their
> citizens.  Remember that their representatives get out of town when there
> are problems in town.
>
>
> On 4/1/21 5:46 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
> > Don't lick the doorknobs.  You'll be fine.
> >
> > Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the
> show rolls around.
> >
> > Jim Bouse
> > Owner - Brazos WiFi
> > 979-985-5912
> > http://www.brazoswifi.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> > Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
> >
> > Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?
> >
> > Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
> >> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
> >>
> >> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
> >> before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make
> >> any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
> >> settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to
> >> reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in
> attending.
> >>
> >> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
> >> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the
> >> show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
> >> everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some
> >> internal projects in progress we would have t

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

In most states, if you want a covid shot, you will have it by the show.
The single shot effectiveness is 70-80% depending on which study you read.

So, lets break it down: Very few people are infected with covid in Texas.  Most 
people who want a shot will have their first shot by the show, yielding them 
70-80% immune to a disease that very few people would be ill with.
Your likelihood of encountering the covid virus is very low and most people's 
immunity will already be in place yielding a very low risk threshold.

I'm be more concerned with the drive to the airport than picking up covid from 
the conference.

Now, of course it makes sense to be careful but the paranoia has got to stop at 
some point.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 8:00 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

That answer would be totally ignoring the question.   Texas isn't a mask 
requirement state and what numbers they are reporting might not have any 
relationship to the actual state of the disease at the time of the conference.  
Wear a mask, maintain distance, don't eat indoors or go to bars.   Don't touch 
your face with your hands unless you have disinfected your hands.   Remember 
how well they prepared for an ice storm for their citizens.  Remember that 
their representatives get out of town when there are problems in town.


On 4/1/21 5:46 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
> Don't lick the doorknobs.  You'll be fine.
>
> Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the show 
> rolls around.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?
>
> Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>>
>> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
>> before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make
>> any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
>> settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to 
>> reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>>
>> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both 
>> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the 
>> show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
>> everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some
>> internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't
>> really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss
>> this one.
>>
>> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll
>> be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're
>> planning on attending.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave > <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
>>
>>  Im waiting for vegas show
>>
>>
>>  On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>  Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
>>>  there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
>>>
>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>  Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>  1100 Wayne St
>>>  Suite 1337
>>>  Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White >>  <mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Sam,
>>>
>>>  I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all
>>>  things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance
>>>  levels than what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020
>>>  before it was canceled.
>>>
>>>  WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper
>>>  dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep
>>>  dives like the old and much cherished Animal Farm shows).
>>>  Turn-out is always smaller because there are less
>>>  business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>>>
>>>  Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a
>>>  very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows
>>>  (and I'm not just saying that).
&

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Daniel White]

The venue and city/county officials will have more to do with it than
the state mask mandate (or lack thereof).

WISPA has little to no say in what the rules are going to be.

photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766

> Jay Weekley <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> April 1, 2021 at 19:25
> I was wondering if everyone was going to be required by Wispa or
> whoever to where a mask etc.
>
>
>
> Robert <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
> April 1, 2021 at 19:00
> That answer would be totally ignoring the question.   Texas isn't a
> mask requirement state and what numbers they are reporting might not
> have any relationship to the actual state of the disease at the time
> of the conference.  Wear a mask, maintain distance, don't eat indoors
> or go to bars.   Don't touch your face with your hands unless you have
> disinfected your hands.   Remember how well they prepared for an ice
> storm for their citizens.  Remember that their representatives get out
> of town when there are problems in town.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>
> April 1, 2021 at 18:46
> Don't lick the doorknobs. You'll be fine.
>
> Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the
> show rolls around.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?
>
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>
> Jay Weekley <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> April 1, 2021 at 17:49
> Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?
>
>
>
> Forrest Christian (List Account) <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>
> April 1, 2021 at 15:46
> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>
> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
> before June 1st, unless something major changed.     So we didn't make
> any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
> settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to
> reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>
> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the
> show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
> everything together that quickly to attend.    Plus we have some
> internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't
> really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss
> this one.
>
> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll
> be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're
> planning on attending.
>
>
>
> -- 
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>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Daniel White]

Yes Arielle is still with WISPA.

photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766

> Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> April 1, 2021 at 15:56
> I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense. 
>  
> I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot. 
>  
> But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like this: 
> No way Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have some broad
> walking the floor with a tumbler of whisky in her hand. 
>  
> But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>  
> Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>  
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>  
> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>  
> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
> before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make
> any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
> settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to
> reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>  
> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the
> show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
> everything together that quickly to attend.    Plus we have some
> internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't
> really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss
> this one.
>  
> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll
> be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're
> planning on attending.
>  
>  
>  
> -- 
> - Forrest
>
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>
> Forrest Christian (List Account) <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>
> April 1, 2021 at 15:46
> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>
> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
> before June 1st, unless something major changed.     So we didn't make
> any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
> settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to
> reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>
> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the
> show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
> everything together that quickly to attend.    Plus we have some
> internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't
> really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss
> this one.
>
> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll
> be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're
> planning on attending.
>
>
>
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>
>
> dave <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>
> March 31, 2021 at 12:49
> Im waiting for vegas show
>
> On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> March 31, 2021 at 12:07
> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be
> nice to see people in person finally.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
> Daniel White <mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>
> March 30, 2021 at 14:24
> Sam,
>
> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things
> considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what
> WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
>
> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An
> "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and
> much cherished Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because
> there are less business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>
> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very
> different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just
> saying that).
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I am banking on my vax to protect me these days.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Robert  wrote:
> 
> That answer would be totally ignoring the question.   Texas isn't a mask 
> requirement state and what numbers they are reporting might not have any 
> relationship to the actual state of the disease at the time of the 
> conference.  Wear a mask, maintain distance, don't eat indoors or go to bars. 
>   Don't touch your face with your hands unless you have disinfected your 
> hands.   Remember how well they prepared for an ice storm for their citizens. 
>  Remember that their representatives get out of town when there are problems 
> in town.
> 
> 
>> On 4/1/21 5:46 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:
>> Don't lick the doorknobs.  You'll be fine.
>> 
>> Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the show 
>> rolls around.
>> 
>> Jim Bouse
>> Owner - Brazos WiFi
>> 979-985-5912
>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>> 
>> Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?
>> 
>> Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>>> 
>>> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
>>> before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make
>>> any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
>>> settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to
>>> reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>>> 
>>> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
>>> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the
>>> show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
>>> everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some
>>> internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't
>>> really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss
>>> this one.
>>> 
>>> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll
>>> be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're
>>> planning on attending.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave >> <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Im waiting for vegas show
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
>>>> there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
>>>> 
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White >>> <mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sam,
>>>> 
>>>> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all
>>>> things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance
>>>> levels than what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020
>>>> before it was canceled.
>>>> 
>>>> WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper
>>>> dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep
>>>> dives like the old and much cherished Animal Farm shows).
>>>> Turn-out is always smaller because there are less
>>>> business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>>>> 
>>>> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a
>>>> very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows
>>>> (and I'm not just saying that).
>>>> 
>>>> photograph
>>>> Daniel White
>>>> Co-Founder
>>>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>>>> direct:+1 (702) 470-2766
>>>> 
>>>>> Sam Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>
>>>>> March 30, 2021 at 14:00
>>>>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if ther

Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jay Weekley]

I was wondering if everyone was going to be required by Wispa or whoever 
to where a mask etc.


Robert wrote:
That answer would be totally ignoring the question.   Texas isn't a 
mask requirement state and what numbers they are reporting might not 
have any relationship to the actual state of the disease at the time 
of the conference.  Wear a mask, maintain distance, don't eat indoors 
or go to bars.   Don't touch your face with your hands unless you have 
disinfected your hands.   Remember how well they prepared for an ice 
storm for their citizens.  Remember that their representatives get out 
of town when there are problems in town.



On 4/1/21 5:46 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

Don't lick the doorknobs.  You'll be fine.

Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the 
show rolls around.


Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?

Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...

We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make
any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to
reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in 
attending.


As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the
show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some
internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't
really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss
this one.

Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll
be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're
planning on attending.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:

 Im waiting for vegas show


 On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
 there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.

 Josh Luthman
 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:

 Sam,

 I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all
 things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance
 levels than what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020
 before it was canceled.

 WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper
 dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep
 dives like the old and much cherished Animal Farm shows).
 Turn-out is always smaller because there are less
 business/accounting/HR focused tracks.

 Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a
 very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows
 (and I'm not just saying that).

 photograph
 Daniel White
 Co-Founder
 phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
 direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


 Sam Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>
 March 30, 2021 at 14:00
 Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there
 will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
 I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is
 this any more informative and better organized or??



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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Robert]

That answer would be totally ignoring the question.   Texas isn't a mask 
requirement state and what numbers they are reporting might not have any 
relationship to the actual state of the disease at the time of the 
conference.  Wear a mask, maintain distance, don't eat indoors or go to 
bars.   Don't touch your face with your hands unless you have 
disinfected your hands.   Remember how well they prepared for an ice 
storm for their citizens.  Remember that their representatives get out 
of town when there are problems in town.



On 4/1/21 5:46 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

Don't lick the doorknobs.  You'll be fine.

Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the show rolls 
around.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?

Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...

We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel
before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make
any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to
settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to
reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.

As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both
Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the
show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some
internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't
really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss
this one.

Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll
be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're
planning on attending.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:

 Im waiting for vegas show


 On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
 there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.

 Josh Luthman
 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:

 Sam,

 I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all
 things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance
 levels than what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020
 before it was canceled.

 WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper
 dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep
 dives like the old and much cherished Animal Farm shows).
 Turn-out is always smaller because there are less
 business/accounting/HR focused tracks.

 Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a
 very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows
 (and I'm not just saying that).

 photograph 
 Daniel White
 Co-Founder
 phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
 direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


 Sam Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>
 March 30, 2021 at 14:00
 Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there
 will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
 I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is
 this any more informative and better organized or??



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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Don't lick the doorknobs.  You'll be fine.

Texas' numbers are way down and will be further down by the time the show rolls 
around.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?

Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>
> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel 
> before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make 
> any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to 
> settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to 
> reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>
> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both 
> Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the 
> show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get
> everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some 
> internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't 
> really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss 
> this one.
>
> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll 
> be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're 
> planning on attending.
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
>
> Im waiting for vegas show
>
>
> On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
>> there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White > <mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Sam,
>>
>> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all
>> things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance
>> levels than what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020
>> before it was canceled.
>>
>> WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper
>> dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep
>> dives like the old and much cherished Animal Farm shows). 
>> Turn-out is always smaller because there are less
>> business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>>
>> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a
>> very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows
>> (and I'm not just saying that).
>>
>> photograph   
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder
>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>> direct:+1 (702) 470-2766
>>
>>> Sam Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>
>>> March 30, 2021 at 14:00
>>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there
>>> will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
>>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is
>>> this any more informative and better organized or??
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jay Weekley]

Does anyone know what the Covid guidelines for the conference are?

Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...

We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel 
before June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make 
any plans.   Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to 
settle down a lot more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to 
reduce my risk factors down to where I was more comfortable in attending.


As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both 
Debbie and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the 
show.  But, unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get 
everything together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some 
internal projects in progress we would have to put on hold which can't 
really be put on hold at this point.   So we're going to have to miss 
this one.


Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll 
be in vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're 
planning on attending.


On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave > wrote:


Im waiting for vegas show


On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be
there.  Be nice to see people in person finally.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:

Sam,

I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all
things considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance
levels than what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020
before it was canceled.

WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper
dives.  An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep
dives like the old and much cherished Animal Farm shows). 
Turn-out is always smaller because there are less

business/accounting/HR focused tracks.

Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a
very different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows
(and I'm not just saying that).

photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


Sam Lambie 
March 30, 2021 at 14:00
Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there
will be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Sam Lambie]

I wear hearing aids and if I am going to be listening to people in rooms
with bad acoustics all day long, I'm not psyched about wearing a mask all
day and missing more than half of the conversation. I'll wait...

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 3:23 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Since you need your second shot on the Thursday of the show...that's bad
> timing.  You could just wear your mask like you're already doing.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
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>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> I am not implying that Las Vegas was unorganized or uninformative, quite
>> the contrary, I learned a lot and met some interesting people there. Just
>> trying to get a feel for the event as to whether we should wait till
>> October (hopefully Wispapalooza can happen) or go to this one. I just got
>> my 1st ashot today so am not that excited about going anywhere until I have
>> both shots...
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:38 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>>
>>> Numbers are looking decent.   The spring show tends toward more
>>> technical tracts.
>>>
>>> What did you think was lacking in the informative and organization of
>>> the Las Vegas show?   The comments are usually the opposite - that the
>>> shows are informative (even overwhelming) and well organized.   What can be
>>> done better?
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>
>>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
>>> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
>>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any
>>> more informative and better organized or??
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

Yup

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> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:57 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
> 
> 
> I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense. 
>  
> I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot. 
>  
> But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like this:  No way 
> Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have some broad walking the floor 
> with a tumbler of whisky in her hand. 
>  
> But that would be mean, so I will refrain...
>  
> Is her daughter still involved with the organization?
>  
> From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>  
> We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...
>  
> We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel before 
> June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make any plans.   
> Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to settle down a lot 
> more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors 
> down to where I was more comfortable in attending.
>  
> As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both Debbie 
> and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the show.  But, 
> unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get everything 
> together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some internal projects in 
> progress we would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at 
> this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.
>  
> Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll be in 
> vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're planning on 
> attending.
>  
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  wrote:
>> Im waiting for vegas show
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be nice 
>>> to see people in person finally.
>>>  
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White  wrote:
>>>> Sam,
>>>> 
>>>> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things 
>>>> considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what 
>>>> WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
>>>> 
>>>> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An 
>>>> "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and much 
>>>> cherished Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because there 
>>>> are less business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>>>> 
>>>> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very different 
>>>> feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just saying that).
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Daniel White
>>>> Co-Founder
>>>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>>>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>>>>> Sam Lambie March 30, 2021 at 14:00
>>>>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a 
>>>>> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.  
>>>>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any 
>>>>> more informative and better organized or??
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Mike Hammett]

I believe so. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown via AF"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Cc: "Chuck McCown"  
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 4:56:34 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? 




I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense. 

I always got along with her just fine. I thought she was a hoot. 

But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like this: No way 
Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have some broad walking the floor 
with a tumbler of whisky in her hand. 

But that would be mean, so I will refrain... 

Is her daughter still involved with the organization? 




From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA? 


We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall... 


We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel before June 
1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make any plans. Part of what 
we were waiting for was for either cases to settle down a lot more than they 
are even now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where I was 
more comfortable in attending. 

As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both Debbie and 
I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the show. But, 
unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get everything together 
that quickly to attend. Plus we have some internal projects in progress we 
would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at this point. So 
we're going to have to miss this one. 

Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll be in 
vegas. We also have a show in I think August that we're planning on attending. 


On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote: 



Im waiting for vegas show 




On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there. Be nice to 
see people in person finally. 




Josh Luthman 
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White < dwh...@atheral.com > wrote: 




Sam, 

I'll be there. I think turn-out will be pretty good all things considering... 
but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting 
for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled. 

WA historically has been the "engineering" show. Deeper dives. An "Animal Farm" 
track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and much cherished Animal 
Farm shows). Turn-out is always smaller because there are less 
business/accounting/HR focused tracks. 

Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very different feel 
than WISPAPALOOZA. I love both shows (and I'm not just saying that). 



photograph  
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Co-Founder 
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direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 





Sam Lambie 
March 30, 2021 at 14:00 

Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a crowd or 
a ghost town in Grapevine TX. 
I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more 
informative and better organized or?? 



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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I keep refraining from making a joke at Trina’s expense.  

I always got along with her just fine.  I thought she was a hoot.  

But if I was to make a joke it might have gone something like this:  No way 
Wispapalooza will be a success unless they have some broad walking the floor 
with a tumbler of whisky in her hand.  

But that would be mean, so I will refrain...

Is her daughter still involved with the organization?

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:46 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...


We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel before June 
1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make any plans.   Part of 
what we were waiting for was for either cases to settle down a lot more than 
they are even now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors down to where I 
was more comfortable in attending.

As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both Debbie and 
I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the show.  But, 
unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get everything together 
that quickly to attend.Plus we have some internal projects in progress we 
would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at this point.   So 
we're going to have to miss this one.

Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll be in 
vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're planning on attending.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  wrote:

  Im waiting for vegas show




  On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be nice 
to see people in person finally. 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White  wrote:

  Sam,

  I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things 
considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what WISPA 
was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.

  WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An 
"Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and much 
cherished Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because there are 
less business/accounting/HR focused tracks.

  Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very different 
feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just saying that).


   Daniel White
  Co-Founder 
  phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
  direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
 
   

Sam LambieMarch 30, 2021 at 14:00
Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a 
crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.   
I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any 
more informative and better organized or??



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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

We're waiting until WISPAPALOOZA in the fall...

We had basically decided a while ago to not do any business travel before
June 1st, unless something major changed. So we didn't make any plans.
 Part of what we were waiting for was for either cases to settle down a lot
more than they are even now, OR to be immunized to reduce my risk factors
down to where I was more comfortable in attending.

As it turns out, it probably would have been ok for us to go as both Debbie
and I will be fully immunized a couple of weeks before the show.  But,
unfortunately, as a vendor it's not really possible to get everything
together that quickly to attend.Plus we have some internal projects in
progress we would have to put on hold which can't really be put on hold at
this point.   So we're going to have to miss this one.

Assuming everything continues trending in the right direction, we'll be in
vegas.   We also have a show in I think August that we're planning on
attending.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:50 PM dave  wrote:

> Im waiting for vegas show
>
>
> On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be nice
> to see people in person finally.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White  wrote:
>
>> Sam,
>>
>> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things
>> considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what
>> WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
>>
>> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An
>> "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and much
>> cherished Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because there are
>> less business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>>
>> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very different
>> feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just saying that).
>>
>> [image: photograph]
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder
>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>>
>> Sam Lambie 
>> March 30, 2021 at 14:00
>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
>> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any
>> more informative and better organized or??
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Josh Luthman]

Since you need your second shot on the Thursday of the show...that's bad
timing.  You could just wear your mask like you're already doing.

Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> I am not implying that Las Vegas was unorganized or uninformative, quite
> the contrary, I learned a lot and met some interesting people there. Just
> trying to get a feel for the event as to whether we should wait till
> October (hopefully Wispapalooza can happen) or go to this one. I just got
> my 1st ashot today so am not that excited about going anywhere until I have
> both shots...
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:38 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>
>> Numbers are looking decent.   The spring show tends toward more technical
>> tracts.
>>
>> What did you think was lacking in the informative and organization of the
>> Las Vegas show?   The comments are usually the opposite - that the shows
>> are informative (even overwhelming) and well organized.   What can be done
>> better?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
>> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any
>> more informative and better organized or??
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Sam Lambie]

I am not implying that Las Vegas was unorganized or uninformative, quite
the contrary, I learned a lot and met some interesting people there. Just
trying to get a feel for the event as to whether we should wait till
October (hopefully Wispapalooza can happen) or go to this one. I just got
my 1st ashot today so am not that excited about going anywhere until I have
both shots...


On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:38 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> Numbers are looking decent.   The spring show tends toward more technical
> tracts.
>
> What did you think was lacking in the informative and organization of the
> Las Vegas show?   The comments are usually the opposite - that the shows
> are informative (even overwhelming) and well organized.   What can be done
> better?
>
> Mark
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more
> informative and better organized or??
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Mark Radabaugh]

Numbers are looking decent.   The spring show tends toward more technical 
tracts.

What did you think was lacking in the informative and organization of the Las 
Vegas show?   The comments are usually the opposite - that the shows are 
informative (even overwhelming) and well organized.   What can be done better?

Mark

> On Mar 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
> 
> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a crowd 
> or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.  
> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more 
> informative and better organized or??
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Cameron Crum]

Better bring a fat wallet

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 5:56 PM Caleb Knauer 
wrote:

> I'm buying shots for every time someone says "uncertain/unprecedented
> times".
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:01 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
> > I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any
> more informative and better organized or??
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

That's how you die

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 5:56 PM Caleb Knauer  wrote:

> I'm buying shots for every time someone says "uncertain/unprecedented
> times".
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:01 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
> > I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any
> more informative and better organized or??
> >
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Caleb Knauer]

I'm buying shots for every time someone says "uncertain/unprecedented times".

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:01 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a crowd 
> or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more 
> informative and better organized or??
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

Same!  Can’t wait!

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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> 
> Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be nice to 
> see people in person finally.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White  wrote:
>> Sam,
>> 
>> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things 
>> considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what WISPA 
>> was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
>> 
>> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An "Animal 
>> Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and much cherished 
>> Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because there are less 
>> business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>> 
>> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very different 
>> feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just saying that).
>> 
>>  
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder
>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>>> Sam Lambie March 30, 2021 at 14:00
>>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a crowd 
>>> or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.  
>>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more 
>>> informative and better organized or??
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[dave]

Im waiting for vegas show


On 3/31/21 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be 
nice to see people in person finally.


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On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White > wrote:


Sam,

I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things
considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than
what WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.

WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives. 
An "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the
old and much cherished Animal Farm shows). Turn-out is always
smaller because there are less business/accounting/HR focused tracks.

Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very
different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not
just saying that).

photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


Sam Lambie 
March 30, 2021 at 14:00
Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will
be a crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this
any more informative and better organized or??



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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Dennis Burgess]

Yep, Link Technologies, Inc, will be there 


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From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 1:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be nice to 
see people in person finally.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White 
mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote:
Sam,

I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things considering... 
but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what WISPA was projecting 
for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.

WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An "Animal 
Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and much cherished 
Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because there are less 
business/accounting/HR focused tracks.

Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very different feel 
than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just saying that).
[photograph]

Daniel White
Co-Founder

phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct: +1 (702) 470-2766



Sam Lambie<mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>
March 30, 2021 at 14:00
Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a crowd or 
a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more 
informative and better organized or??



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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Josh Luthman]

Definitely time to go to an actual show and I know I'll be there.  Be nice
to see people in person finally.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Daniel White  wrote:

> Sam,
>
> I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things
> considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what
> WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.
>
> WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An
> "Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and much
> cherished Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because there are
> less business/accounting/HR focused tracks.
>
> Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very different
> feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just saying that).
>
> [image: photograph]
> Daniel White
> Co-Founder
> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>
> Sam Lambie 
> March 30, 2021 at 14:00
> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more
> informative and better organized or??
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

You should tell everybody its animal farm, with a bunch of  "challenges".
But really you're just bringing the wisp industry out to do free labor on
your projects.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021, 5:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Yeah, if you wanna see micro trenching.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:30 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?
>
> I had planned on strongarming the boss into letting me go last year, then
> it all went tits up... I suspect im bad luck, so probably wont try
> strongarming boss this year, especially since we missed the price party.
> Apparently its already almost april.
>
> I think chuck should just do Animal Farm at his house
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 3:01 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
>> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
>> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any
>> more informative and better organized or??
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Yeah, if you wanna see micro trenching.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

I had planned on strongarming the boss into letting me go last year, then it 
all went tits up... I suspect im bad luck, so probably wont try strongarming 
boss this year, especially since we missed the price party. Apparently its 
already almost april. 

I think chuck should just do Animal Farm at his house

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 3:01 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

  Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a crowd 
or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.   
  I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more 
informative and better organized or??



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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Steve Jones]

I had planned on strongarming the boss into letting me go last year, then
it all went tits up... I suspect im bad luck, so probably wont try
strongarming boss this year, especially since we missed the price party.
Apparently its already almost april.

I think chuck should just do Animal Farm at his house

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 3:01 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more
> informative and better organized or??
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Daniel White]

Sam,

I'll be there.  I think turn-out will be pretty good all things
considering... but probably 2017-2018 type attendance levels than what
WISPA was projecting for WISPAmerica 2020 before it was canceled.

WA historically has been the "engineering" show.  Deeper dives.  An
"Animal Farm" track (vendors doing their deep dives like the old and
much cherished Animal Farm shows).  Turn-out is always smaller because
there are less business/accounting/HR focused tracks.

Obviously the circumstances could be better - but WA has a very
different feel than WISPAPALOOZA.  I love both shows (and I'm not just
saying that).

photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766

> Sam Lambie 
> March 30, 2021 at 14:00
> Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a
> crowd or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.  
> I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any
> more informative and better organized or??
>
>
>
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[AFMUG] Who is going to WISPAMERICA?

[Sam Lambie]

Just wondering if during these unprecedented times if there will be a crowd
or a ghost town in Grapevine TX.
I've been to the LV WISPaPalooza shows a couple of times, is this any more
informative and better organized or??



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