Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Steve Jones
the online will probably be good, but nothing beats the direct Q with
ones that know. they are in on the upcoming Alpha Wireless webinar
https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_aOHF6vjDT8mEiCTd-U6jHA I dont know how
cambium centric it is going to be or who from cambium will be there. But
theyre about the only ones in the industry with the inside track to
definitively answer questions as definitively as you can about something in
flux

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:54 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> They posted an online course, I need to go check if it's the same thing.
> Trying to do about 10 CBRS related things in parallel here.
>
> I doubt the online course has sandwiches though.  BYOS.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Steve Jones" 
> Sent: 1/30/2020 3:46:08 PM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>
> tell cambium matt to do another CBRS session
>
> get pitchforks and torches and go to his office
>
> Im telling you guys, its good stuff
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>
>> yes.  As long as the SM can hear (and is set to listen to the frequency,
>> bandwidth, and color code) it will work.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Will the SM scan for CBRS and NN mode with one driver loaded?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>>
>>> One very nice feature of the Cambium solution is (with some caveats) you
>>> can just turn off CBRS mode in the AP and all the SM’s go back to normal NN
>>> licensed operation.
>>>
>>> The caveats:  You have to have the frequencies, channel widths, color
>>> codes, etc. enabled in the SM’s for them to be able to ’see’ the AP when it
>>> comes up in legacy NN modes.  Obviously the frequencies need to be in
>>> 3650-3700 and with appropriate power levels set.   I’m told you may need to
>>> toggle the AP in/out of CBRS and extra time in cnMaestro but that appears
>>> to be something we have only seen a few times so far when transitioning
>>> in/out of CBRS modes.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>
>>> I see there’s a beta 4 release today.  Haven’t read the release notes
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:24 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>>>
>>> We also found a big with one Medusa AP that wouldn’t get sync even tho
>>> the sync status showed cambium sync and timing port sync.  Solution was to
>>> turn on ‘auto-sync + free-run’ and then also enable ‘free run before gps
>>> sync’  still working with cambium on a better fix but it’s working for now.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>>>
>>> It has bugs, that’s for sure - but it’s workable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Turn off ‘spectrum scan on startup’ if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an
>>> endless loop in this beta. That’s probably the worst bug we have found.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> Mark Radabaugh
>>> Amplex
>>> 22690 Pemberville Rd
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
>>> Luckey, OH 43443
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
>>> 419-261-5996
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>>>
>>> We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default
>>> option is Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors
>>> if you prefer.   You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to
>>> serve as the proxy to communicate with the SAS - that’s just part of how
>>> the system works.
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
They posted an online course, I need to go check if it's the same thing.  
Trying to do about 10 CBRS related things in parallel here.

I doubt the online course has sandwiches though.  BYOS.


 Original Message 
From: "Steve Jones" thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
Sent: 1/30/2020 3:46:08 PM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium



tell cambium matt to do another CBRS session



get pitchforks and torches and go to his office



Im telling you guys, its good stuff




On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

yes.  As long as the SM can hear (and is set to listen to the frequency, 
bandwidth, and color code) it will work.



Mark






On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:




Will the SM scan for CBRS and NN mode with one driver loaded?







 Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373




On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

One very nice feature of the Cambium solution is (with some caveats) you can 
just turn off CBRS mode in the AP and all the SMs go back to normal NN licensed 
operation.  



The caveats:  You have to have the frequencies, channel widths, color codes, 
etc. enabled in the SMs for them to be able to see the AP when it comes up in 
legacy NN modes.  Obviously the frequencies need to be in 3650-3700 and with 
appropriate power levels set.   Im told you may need to toggle the AP in/out of 
CBRS and extra time in cnMaestro but that appears to be something we have only 
seen a few times so far when transitioning in/out of CBRS modes.



Mark





On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:






I see theres a beta 4 release today.  Havent read the release notes yet.



From: AF af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium









We also found a big with one Medusa AP that wouldnt get sync even tho the sync 
status showed cambium sync and timing port sync.  Solution was to turn on 
auto-sync + free-run and then also enable free run before gps sync  still 
working with cambium on a better fix but its working for now.











On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:



It has bugs, thats for sure - but its workable.







Turn off spectrum scan on startup if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an endless 
loop in this beta. Thats probably the worst bug we have found.

Mark



Mark Radabaugh



Amplex



22690 Pemberville Rd



Luckey, OH 43443



419-261-5996






On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:



?



Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?







From: AF af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium



We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:









image001.png















You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default option is 
Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors if you prefer. 
  You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to serve as the proxy to 
communicate with the SAS - thats just part of how the system works.







If Cambium support isnt working with you on it contact your regional Cambium 
sales manager.   If that doesnt work its not too hard to find your way up the 
Cambium organization until you get results.  
https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/ is the list.   
Cambium follows the  first.last@cambiumnetworks.comformat for email addresses.  
 Start with the CSM and escalate as needed.







Mark















On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:25 AM, David Coudron david.coud...@advantenon.com wrote:







Interested to know what folks are doing or planning to do who have Cambium PMP 
450 3.65 equipment in the field.   It is our understanding that Cambium is the 
only SAS option we have due to the need to have cnMaestro be the Domain Proxy 
for the SAS.   Has anyone got this up and working?   We have been requesting 
access to the CBRS options in cnMaestro for two weeks but are not making much 
progress.   With full commercial availability, we are a little surprised that 
this isnt available.   Are there other options for connecting to a SAS other 
than using Cambium as the SAS Domain Proxy?   Seems they might not be ready for 
this, or are not heavily committed to it.







Regards,







David Coudron

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Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Steve Jones
tell cambium matt to do another CBRS session

get pitchforks and torches and go to his office

Im telling you guys, its good stuff

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> yes.  As long as the SM can hear (and is set to listen to the frequency,
> bandwidth, and color code) it will work.
>
> Mark
>
> On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Will the SM scan for CBRS and NN mode with one driver loaded?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>
>> One very nice feature of the Cambium solution is (with some caveats) you
>> can just turn off CBRS mode in the AP and all the SM’s go back to normal NN
>> licensed operation.
>>
>> The caveats:  You have to have the frequencies, channel widths, color
>> codes, etc. enabled in the SM’s for them to be able to ’see’ the AP when it
>> comes up in legacy NN modes.  Obviously the frequencies need to be in
>> 3650-3700 and with appropriate power levels set.   I’m told you may need to
>> toggle the AP in/out of CBRS and extra time in cnMaestro but that appears
>> to be something we have only seen a few times so far when transitioning
>> in/out of CBRS modes.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> I see there’s a beta 4 release today.  Haven’t read the release notes yet.
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:24 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>>
>> We also found a big with one Medusa AP that wouldn’t get sync even tho
>> the sync status showed cambium sync and timing port sync.  Solution was to
>> turn on ‘auto-sync + free-run’ and then also enable ‘free run before gps
>> sync’  still working with cambium on a better fix but it’s working for now.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>>
>> It has bugs, that’s for sure - but it’s workable.
>>
>>
>> Turn off ‘spectrum scan on startup’ if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an
>> endless loop in this beta. That’s probably the worst bug we have found.
>>
>> Mark
>> Mark Radabaugh
>> Amplex
>> 22690 Pemberville Rd
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
>> Luckey, OH 43443
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
>> 419-261-5996
>>
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>>
>> We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default
>> option is Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors
>> if you prefer.   You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to
>> serve as the proxy to communicate with the SAS - that’s just part of how
>> the system works.
>>
>> If Cambium support isn’t working with you on it contact your regional
>> Cambium sales manager.   If that doesn’t work it’s not too hard to find
>> your way up the Cambium organization until you get results.
>> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/ is the list.
>>   Cambium follows the  first.last@cambiumnetworks.comformat for email
>> addresses.   Start with the CSM and escalate as needed.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:25 AM, David Coudron 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Interested to know what folks are doing or planning to do who have
>> Cambium PMP 450 3.65 equipment in the field.   It is our understanding that
>> Cambium is the only SAS option we have due to the need to have cnMaestro be
>> the Domain Proxy for the SAS.   Has anyone got this up and working?   We
>> have been requesting access to the CBRS options in cnMaestro for two weeks
>> but are not making much progress.   With full commercial availability, we
>> are a little surprised that this isn’t available.   Are there other options
>> for connecting to a SAS other than using Cambium as the SAS Domain Proxy?
>> Seems they might not be ready 

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Mark Radabaugh
yes.  As long as the SM can hear (and is set to listen to the frequency, 
bandwidth, and color code) it will work.

Mark

> On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> Will the SM scan for CBRS and NN mode with one driver loaded?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Mark Radabaugh  <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:
> One very nice feature of the Cambium solution is (with some caveats) you can 
> just turn off CBRS mode in the AP and all the SM’s go back to normal NN 
> licensed operation.  
> 
> The caveats:  You have to have the frequencies, channel widths, color codes, 
> etc. enabled in the SM’s for them to be able to ’see’ the AP when it comes up 
> in legacy NN modes.  Obviously the frequencies need to be in 3650-3700 and 
> with appropriate power levels set.   I’m told you may need to toggle the AP 
> in/out of CBRS and extra time in cnMaestro but that appears to be something 
> we have only seen a few times so far when transitioning in/out of CBRS modes.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Ken Hohhof > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I see there’s a beta 4 release today.  Haven’t read the release notes yet.
>>  
>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>> Behalf Of Sean Heskett
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:24 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>>  
>> We also found a big with one Medusa AP that wouldn’t get sync even tho the 
>> sync status showed cambium sync and timing port sync.  Solution was to turn 
>> on ‘auto-sync + free-run’ and then also enable ‘free run before gps sync’  
>> still working with cambium on a better fix but it’s working for now.
>>  
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Radabaugh > <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:
>>> It has bugs, that’s for sure - but it’s workable.
>>>  
>>> Turn off ‘spectrum scan on startup’ if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an 
>>> endless loop in this beta. That’s probably the worst bug we have found.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Mark Radabaugh
>>> Amplex
>>> 22690 Pemberville Rd 
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
>>> Luckey, OH 43443 
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
>>> 419-261-5996
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof >>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?
>>>>  
>>>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>>>> Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>>>>  
>>>> We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default option 
>>>> is Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors if you 
>>>> prefer.   You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to serve as 
>>>> the proxy to communicate with the SAS - that’s just part of how the system 
>>>> works.
>>>>  
>>>> If Cambium support isn’t working with you on it contact your regional 
>>>> Cambium sales manager.   If that doesn’t work it’s not too hard to find 
>>>> your way up the Cambium organization until you get results.  
>>>> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/ 
>>>> <https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/> is the list. 
>>>>   Cambium follows the  first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com 
>>>> <mailto:first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com>format for email addresses.   Start 
>>>> with the CSM and escalate as needed.
>>>>  
>>>> Mark
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:25 AM, David Coudron >>>> <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Interested to know what fo

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
I just tried the 16.2 beta FW on my first guinea pig AP and SM.  Not CBRS, just 
the firmware upgrade.  (Still haven’t chosen a SAS.)

 

>From Cambium’s warnings about not working with any other versions of FW, I 
>expected it would be necessary to do the SMs first and that I would lose 
>connectivity to them until I upgraded the AP.  Even though Cambium didn’t 
>explicitly say do the SMs first.

 

Actually though I didn’t lose the SM.  And it was on 15.2!

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:47 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

 

One very nice feature of the Cambium solution is (with some caveats) you can 
just turn off CBRS mode in the AP and all the SM’s go back to normal NN 
licensed operation.  

 

The caveats:  You have to have the frequencies, channel widths, color codes, 
etc. enabled in the SM’s for them to be able to ’see’ the AP when it comes up 
in legacy NN modes.  Obviously the frequencies need to be in 3650-3700 and with 
appropriate power levels set.   I’m told you may need to toggle the AP in/out 
of CBRS and extra time in cnMaestro but that appears to be something we have 
only seen a few times so far when transitioning in/out of CBRS modes.

 

Mark





On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

 

I see there’s a beta 4 release today.  Haven’t read the release notes yet.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

 

We also found a big with one Medusa AP that wouldn’t get sync even tho the sync 
status showed cambium sync and timing port sync.  Solution was to turn on 
‘auto-sync + free-run’ and then also enable ‘free run before gps sync’  still 
working with cambium on a better fix but it’s working for now.

 

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net> > wrote:

It has bugs, that’s for sure - but it’s workable.

 

Turn off ‘spectrum scan on startup’ if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an 
endless loop in this beta. That’s probably the worst bug we have found.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh

Amplex

22690 Pemberville Rd 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
 

Luckey, OH 43443 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
 

419-261-5996






On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:



Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

 

We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:

 



 

You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default option is 
Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors if you prefer. 
  You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to serve as the proxy to 
communicate with the SAS - that’s just part of how the system works.

 

If Cambium support isn’t working with you on it contact your regional Cambium 
sales manager.   If that doesn’t work it’s not too hard to find your way up the 
Cambium organization until you get results.  
https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/ is the list.   
Cambium follows the  first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com 
<mailto:first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com> format for email addresses.   Start 
with the CSM and escalate as needed.

 

Mark

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:25 AM, David Coudron mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com> > wrote:

 

Interested to know what folks are doing or planning to do who have Cambium PMP 
450 3.65 equipment in the field.   It is our understanding that Cambium is the 
only SAS option we have due to the need to have cnMaestro be the Domain Proxy 
for the SAS.   Has anyone got this up and working?   We have been requesting 
access to the CBRS options in cnMaestro for two weeks but are not making much 
progress.   With full commercial availability, we are a little surprised that 
this isn’t available.   Are there other options for connecting to a SAS other 
than using Cambium as the SAS Domain Proxy?   Seems they might not be ready for 
this, or are not heavily committed to it.

 

Regards,

 

David Coudron

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Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Will the SM scan for CBRS and NN mode with one driver loaded?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> One very nice feature of the Cambium solution is (with some caveats) you
> can just turn off CBRS mode in the AP and all the SM’s go back to normal NN
> licensed operation.
>
> The caveats:  You have to have the frequencies, channel widths, color
> codes, etc. enabled in the SM’s for them to be able to ’see’ the AP when it
> comes up in legacy NN modes.  Obviously the frequencies need to be in
> 3650-3700 and with appropriate power levels set.   I’m told you may need to
> toggle the AP in/out of CBRS and extra time in cnMaestro but that appears
> to be something we have only seen a few times so far when transitioning
> in/out of CBRS modes.
>
> Mark
>
> On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I see there’s a beta 4 release today.  Haven’t read the release notes yet.
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:24 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>
> We also found a big with one Medusa AP that wouldn’t get sync even tho the
> sync status showed cambium sync and timing port sync.  Solution was to turn
> on ‘auto-sync + free-run’ and then also enable ‘free run before gps sync’
>  still working with cambium on a better fix but it’s working for now.
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>
> It has bugs, that’s for sure - but it’s workable.
>
>
> Turn off ‘spectrum scan on startup’ if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an
> endless loop in this beta. That’s probably the worst bug we have found.
>
> Mark
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> 22690 Pemberville Rd
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
> Luckey, OH 43443
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
> 419-261-5996
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> 
> Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>
> We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:
>
> 
>
>
> You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default option
> is Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors if you
> prefer.   You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to serve as
> the proxy to communicate with the SAS - that’s just part of how the system
> works.
>
> If Cambium support isn’t working with you on it contact your regional
> Cambium sales manager.   If that doesn’t work it’s not too hard to find
> your way up the Cambium organization until you get results.
> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/ is the list.
>   Cambium follows the  first.last@cambiumnetworks.comformat for email
> addresses.   Start with the CSM and escalate as needed.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:25 AM, David Coudron 
> wrote:
>
> Interested to know what folks are doing or planning to do who have Cambium
> PMP 450 3.65 equipment in the field.   It is our understanding that Cambium
> is the only SAS option we have due to the need to have cnMaestro be the
> Domain Proxy for the SAS.   Has anyone got this up and working?   We have
> been requesting access to the CBRS options in cnMaestro for two weeks but
> are not making much progress.   With full commercial availability, we are a
> little surprised that this isn’t available.   Are there other options for
> connecting to a SAS other than using Cambium as the SAS Domain Proxy?
> Seems they might not be ready for this, or are not heavily committed to it.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Coudron
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Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Mark Radabaugh
One very nice feature of the Cambium solution is (with some caveats) you can 
just turn off CBRS mode in the AP and all the SM’s go back to normal NN 
licensed operation.  

The caveats:  You have to have the frequencies, channel widths, color codes, 
etc. enabled in the SM’s for them to be able to ’see’ the AP when it comes up 
in legacy NN modes.  Obviously the frequencies need to be in 3650-3700 and with 
appropriate power levels set.   I’m told you may need to toggle the AP in/out 
of CBRS and extra time in cnMaestro but that appears to be something we have 
only seen a few times so far when transitioning in/out of CBRS modes.

Mark

> On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> I see there’s a beta 4 release today.  Haven’t read the release notes yet.
>  
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sean Heskett
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:24 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>  
> We also found a big with one Medusa AP that wouldn’t get sync even tho the 
> sync status showed cambium sync and timing port sync.  Solution was to turn 
> on ‘auto-sync + free-run’ and then also enable ‘free run before gps sync’  
> still working with cambium on a better fix but it’s working for now.
>  
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Radabaugh  <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:
>> It has bugs, that’s for sure - but it’s workable.
>>  
>> Turn off ‘spectrum scan on startup’ if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an 
>> endless loop in this beta. That’s probably the worst bug we have found.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Mark Radabaugh
>> Amplex
>> 22690 Pemberville Rd 
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
>> Luckey, OH 43443 
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
>> 419-261-5996
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?
>>>  
>>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>>>  
>>> We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:
>>>  
>>> 
>> 
>>>  
>>> You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default option 
>>> is Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors if you 
>>> prefer.   You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to serve as 
>>> the proxy to communicate with the SAS - that’s just part of how the system 
>>> works.
>>>  
>>> If Cambium support isn’t working with you on it contact your regional 
>>> Cambium sales manager.   If that doesn’t work it’s not too hard to find 
>>> your way up the Cambium organization until you get results.  
>>> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/ 
>>> <https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/> is the list.  
>>>  Cambium follows the  first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com 
>>> <mailto:first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com>format for email addresses.   Start 
>>> with the CSM and escalate as needed.
>>>  
>>> Mark
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:25 AM, David Coudron >>> <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Interested to know what folks are doing or planning to do who have Cambium 
>>>> PMP 450 3.65 equipment in the field.   It is our understanding that 
>>>> Cambium is the only SAS option we have due to the need to have cnMaestro 
>>>> be the Domain Proxy for the SAS.   Has anyone got this up and working?   
>>>> We have been requesting access to the CBRS options in cnMaestro for two 
>>>> weeks but are not making much progress.   With full commercial 
>>>> availability, we are a little surprised that this isn’t available.   Are 
>>>> there other options for connecting to a SAS other than using Cambium as 
>>>> the SAS Domain Proxy?   Seems they might not be ready for this, or are not 
>>>> heavily committed to it.
>>>>  
>>>> Regards,
>>>>  
>>>> David Coudron

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
I see there’s a beta 4 release today.  Haven’t read the release notes yet.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

 

We also found a big with one Medusa AP that wouldn’t get sync even tho the sync 
status showed cambium sync and timing port sync.  Solution was to turn on 
‘auto-sync + free-run’ and then also enable ‘free run before gps sync’  still 
working with cambium on a better fix but it’s working for now.

 

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net> > wrote:

It has bugs, that’s for sure - but it’s workable.

 

Turn off ‘spectrum scan on startup’ if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an 
endless loop in this beta. That’s probably the worst bug we have found.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh

Amplex

22690 Pemberville Rd 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
 

Luckey, OH 43443 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
 

419-261-5996





On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:



Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

 

We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:

 



 

You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default option is 
Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors if you prefer. 
  You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to serve as the proxy to 
communicate with the SAS - that’s just part of how the system works.

 

If Cambium support isn’t working with you on it contact your regional Cambium 
sales manager.   If that doesn’t work it’s not too hard to find your way up the 
Cambium organization until you get results.  
https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/ is the list.   
Cambium follows the  first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com 
<mailto:first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com>  format for email addresses.   Start 
with the CSM and escalate as needed.

 

Mark

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:25 AM, David Coudron mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com> > wrote:

 

Interested to know what folks are doing or planning to do who have Cambium PMP 
450 3.65 equipment in the field.   It is our understanding that Cambium is the 
only SAS option we have due to the need to have cnMaestro be the Domain Proxy 
for the SAS.   Has anyone got this up and working?   We have been requesting 
access to the CBRS options in cnMaestro for two weeks but are not making much 
progress.   With full commercial availability, we are a little surprised that 
this isn’t available.   Are there other options for connecting to a SAS other 
than using Cambium as the SAS Domain Proxy?   Seems they might not be ready for 
this, or are not heavily committed to it.

 

Regards,

 

David Coudron

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Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Sean Heskett
We also found a big with one Medusa AP that wouldn’t get sync even tho the
sync status showed cambium sync and timing port sync.  Solution was to turn
on ‘auto-sync + free-run’ and then also enable ‘free run before gps sync’
 still working with cambium on a better fix but it’s working for now.

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> It has bugs, that’s for sure - but it’s workable.
>
> Turn off ‘spectrum scan on startup’ if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an
> endless loop in this beta. That’s probably the worst bug we have found.
>
> Mark
>
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> 22690 Pemberville Rd
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
> Luckey, OH 43443
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/22690+Pemberville+Rd+Luckey,+OH+43443?entry=gmail=g>
> 419-261-5996
>
> On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>
>
>
> We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default option
> is Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors if you
> prefer.   You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to serve as
> the proxy to communicate with the SAS - that’s just part of how the system
> works.
>
>
>
> If Cambium support isn’t working with you on it contact your regional
> Cambium sales manager.   If that doesn’t work it’s not too hard to find
> your way up the Cambium organization until you get results.
> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/ is the list.
>   Cambium follows the  first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com format for email
> addresses.   Start with the CSM and escalate as needed.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:25 AM, David Coudron 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Interested to know what folks are doing or planning to do who have Cambium
> PMP 450 3.65 equipment in the field.   It is our understanding that Cambium
> is the only SAS option we have due to the need to have cnMaestro be the
> Domain Proxy for the SAS.   Has anyone got this up and working?   We have
> been requesting access to the CBRS options in cnMaestro for two weeks but
> are not making much progress.   With full commercial availability, we are a
> little surprised that this isn’t available.   Are there other options for
> connecting to a SAS other than using Cambium as the SAS Domain Proxy?
> Seems they might not be ready for this, or are not heavily committed to it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> David Coudron
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Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread Mark Radabaugh
It has bugs, that’s for sure - but it’s workable.

Turn off ‘spectrum scan on startup’ if you enable CBSD.  It goes into an 
endless loop in this beta. That’s probably the worst bug we have found.

Mark

Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
22690 Pemberville Rd
Luckey, OH 43443
419-261-5996

> On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mark, how worried are you about the 450 firmware still being beta?
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:35 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium
>  
> We have it up and running happily.  Just converted this site today:
>  
> 
>  
> You can pick the SAS you want to use with cnMaestro but the default option is 
> Federated, but they will let you work with the other SAS vendors if you 
> prefer.   You have to use cnMaestro (either on or off premise) to serve as 
> the proxy to communicate with the SAS - that’s just part of how the system 
> works.
>  
> If Cambium support isn’t working with you on it contact your regional Cambium 
> sales manager.   If that doesn’t work it’s not too hard to find your way up 
> the Cambium organization until you get results.  
> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/our-company/executive-team/ is the list.   
> Cambium follows the  first.l...@cambiumnetworks.com format for email 
> addresses.   Start with the CSM and escalate as needed.
>  
> Mark
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2020, at 11:25 AM, David Coudron  
> wrote:
>  
> Interested to know what folks are doing or planning to do who have Cambium 
> PMP 450 3.65 equipment in the field.   It is our understanding that Cambium 
> is the only SAS option we have due to the need to have cnMaestro be the 
> Domain Proxy for the SAS.   Has anyone got this up and working?   We have 
> been requesting access to the CBRS options in cnMaestro for two weeks but are 
> not making much progress.   With full commercial availability, we are a 
> little surprised that this isn’t available.   Are there other options for 
> connecting to a SAS other than using Cambium as the SAS Domain Proxy?   Seems 
> they might not be ready for this, or are not heavily committed to it.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> David Coudron
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Re: [AFMUG] CBRS SAS options from Cambium

2020-01-30 Thread dave via AF

Still working on migration so I will know soon..
 I just wanted to re validate each site we onboard before doing so 
because I dont want to have to go back for incorrect information.
We have had an NN license since 2010 and since the first cambium pmp450 
3.65 we have been on board for this but we have added at least 23 sites

with these since then to included the newest medusa line.
I will know something by next week when I press the button on our first 
site for sure lol :)



On 1/30/20 10:25 AM, David Coudron wrote:


Interested to know what folks are doing or planning to do who have 
Cambium PMP 450 3.65 equipment in the field.   It is our understanding 
that Cambium is the only SAS option we have due to the need to have 
cnMaestro be the Domain Proxy for the SAS.   Has anyone got this up 
and working?   We have been requesting access to the CBRS options in 
cnMaestro for two weeks but are not making much progress.   With full 
commercial availability, we are a little surprised that this isn’t 
available.   Are there other options for connecting to a SAS other 
than using Cambium as the SAS Domain Proxy?   Seems they might not be 
ready for this, or are not heavily committed to it.


Regards,

David Coudron




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