Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I have considered adding a small galvanizing pot.  I will probably continue to 
“consider” it.  They take lots of energy, lots of baths of cleaning and 
pickling stuff that probably are hazardous waste.  Sure would be handy though.  

 

I did add a water jet a month ago.  Should have done that years ago.  More 
accurate than plasma, no heat affected zone.  Can cut really thick stuff and 
can cut anything, glass, stone, toilet paper.  We do some race car parts for 
the local race track.  We cut down some brake pads with it the other day.  So 
much cleaner than machining.  

 

Great for one off sheet metal parts that are very accurate.  If I was doing it 
all over again, I would have gotten the water jet first before the plasma.  

We are tweaking it, so far we can hold about .010” but sneaking up on .005”.  
It has a tiny bit of taper on thick stuff but we think we can get the taper 
down to .005” on a 1” thick part.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:22 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

They sell a lot of name brand safety, climbing and rigging supplies.  But yes 
most of their tower steel is their own Valmont stuff.  Sitepro1 I think 
basically started out as Valmont’s online store.  I believe they also own PiRod 
Towers.

 

There was also Connect-It Wireless (ciwireless.com) in Florida which 
manufactured a lot of similar galvanized steel products, but Valmont bought 
them.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:32 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

It is their own stuff (Valmont)  as far as the steel stuff goes.  They own 
massive galvanization plants which gives them a pretty good advantage cost 
wise.  

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:28 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Is sitepro stuff all their own stuff or are they resale? Can they carry McCown 
tech goods? Or do they require massive volume? IIRC they are shipping rapists 
though

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week + shipping 
mark.


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote:

Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant quantities 
of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship and that only 
works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the drop ship orders 
which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8 weeks.  I offer to 
virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the rest want to use that 
option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large quantities of the common 
parts.  

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

 

Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon. 

 

In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is better 
functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that it makes 
no sense for us to stock two sizes.

 

2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2 foot 
pipes.

 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote:

Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

 

Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for so 
long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build from 
order to ship?

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other than 
distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.  

It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for trends.  
But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.  

But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
politicizing toilet paper.

 

Maybe that’

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
They sell a lot of name brand safety, climbing and rigging supplies.  But yes 
most of their tower steel is their own Valmont stuff.  Sitepro1 I think 
basically started out as Valmont’s online store.  I believe they also own PiRod 
Towers.

 

There was also Connect-It Wireless (ciwireless.com) in Florida which 
manufactured a lot of similar galvanized steel products, but Valmont bought 
them.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:32 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

It is their own stuff (Valmont)  as far as the steel stuff goes.  They own 
massive galvanization plants which gives them a pretty good advantage cost 
wise.  

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:28 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Is sitepro stuff all their own stuff or are they resale? Can they carry McCown 
tech goods? Or do they require massive volume? IIRC they are shipping rapists 
though

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week + shipping 
mark.


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote:

Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant quantities 
of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship and that only 
works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the drop ship orders 
which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8 weeks.  I offer to 
virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the rest want to use that 
option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large quantities of the common 
parts.  

Sent from my iPhone





On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

 

Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon. 

 

In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is better 
functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that it makes 
no sense for us to stock two sizes.

 

2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2 foot 
pipes.

 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote:

Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.

Sent from my iPhone





On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

 

Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for so 
long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build from 
order to ship?

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other than 
distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.  

It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for trends.  
But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.  

But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
politicizing toilet paper.

 

Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.  Then 
there will be plenty for us.

 

My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra 
Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi rolls.  I 
need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  Those giant 
rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing presses.  I 
have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the roll holder on 
the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be doing, you risk a 
full roll of toilet paper getting wet.

 

I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll holder.  
Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  Regular 
M-TOWs, not the P version.)

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this whole 
thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving 
any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc thro

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
If they wanted to they would just knock off all my stuff.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:41 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

maybe you lease your designs to them and sit back, collect royalties when your 
not diving into your piles of gold coins like scrooge mcduck?

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:32 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

It is their own stuff (Valmont)  as far as the steel stuff goes.  They own 
massive galvanization plants which gives them a pretty good advantage cost 
wise.  

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:28 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Is sitepro stuff all their own stuff or are they resale? Can they carry McCown 
tech goods? Or do they require massive volume? IIRC they are shipping rapists 
though

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week + shipping 
mark.


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote:

Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant quantities 
of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship and that only 
works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the drop ship orders 
which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8 weeks.  I offer to 
virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the rest want to use that 
option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large quantities of the common 
parts.  

Sent from my iPhone





On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

 

Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon. 

 

In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is better 
functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that it makes 
no sense for us to stock two sizes.

 

2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2 foot 
pipes.

 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote:

Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.

Sent from my iPhone





On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

 

Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for so 
long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build from 
order to ship?

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other than 
distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.  

It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for trends.  
But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.  

But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
politicizing toilet paper.

 

Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.  Then 
there will be plenty for us.

 

My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra 
Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi rolls.  I 
need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  Those giant 
rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing presses.  I 
have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the roll holder on 
the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be doing, you risk a 
full roll of toilet paper getting wet.

 

I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll holder.  
Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  Regular 
M-TOWs, not the P version.)

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this whole 
thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving 
any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. People are 
weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up all the p

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Steve Jones
maybe you lease your designs to them and sit back, collect royalties when
your not diving into your piles of gold coins like scrooge mcduck?

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:32 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:

> It is their own stuff (Valmont)  as far as the steel stuff goes.  They own
> massive galvanization plants which gives them a pretty good advantage cost
> wise.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:28 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> Is sitepro stuff all their own stuff or are they resale? Can they carry
> McCown tech goods? Or do they require massive volume? IIRC they are
> shipping rapists though
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week +
>> shipping mark.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant
>>> quantities of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship
>>> and that only works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the
>>> drop ship orders which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8
>>> weeks.  I offer to virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the
>>> rest want to use that option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large
>>> quantities of the common parts.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon.
>>>
>>> In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is
>>> better functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough
>>> that it makes no sense for us to stock two sizes.
>>>
>>> 2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2
>>> foot pipes.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock
>>>> for so long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the
>>>> build from order to ship?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products
>>>>> other than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.
>>>>>
>>>>> It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for
>>>>> trends.  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to
>>>>> forecast.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
>>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was
>>>>> like politicizing toilet paper.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use
>>>>> TP.  Then there will be plenty for us.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted
>>>>> 3-ply Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all
>>>>> the Maxi rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send 
>>>>> them
>>>>> to me.  Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper
>>>>> printing presses.  I

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
It is their own stuff (Valmont)  as far as the steel stuff goes.  They own 
massive galvanization plants which gives them a pretty good advantage cost 
wise.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:28 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Is sitepro stuff all their own stuff or are they resale? Can they carry McCown 
tech goods? Or do they require massive volume? IIRC they are shipping rapists 
though

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM Josh Luthman  wrote:

  OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week + shipping 
mark.


  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant 
quantities of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship and 
that only works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the drop 
ship orders which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8 weeks.  I 
offer to virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the rest want to 
use that option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large quantities of the 
common parts.  


Sent from my iPhone


  On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:


   
  Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon. 

  In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is 
better functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that 
it makes no sense for us to stock two sizes.

  2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2 
foot pipes.

  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.


Sent from my iPhone


  On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:


   
  Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock 
for so long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build 
from order to ship?

  On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:

I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products 
other than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.  

It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look 
for trends.  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.  

But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to 
forecast.  



From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24



I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was 
like politicizing toilet paper.



Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to 
use TP.  Then there will be plenty for us.



My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 
3-ply Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the 
Maxi rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  
Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing 
presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the 
roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be 
doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.



I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll 
holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  
Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)



From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24



Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through 
this whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without 
leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. People 
are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up all the 
pork ramen noodles though.



Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, 
honey, sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans 
do something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice 
for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If 
anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend 
running for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its washed 
salt so theres no debris, pure salt

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Steve Jones
Is sitepro stuff all their own stuff or are they resale? Can they carry
McCown tech goods? Or do they require massive volume? IIRC they are
shipping rapists though

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week +
> shipping mark.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant
>> quantities of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship
>> and that only works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the
>> drop ship orders which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8
>> weeks.  I offer to virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the
>> rest want to use that option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large
>> quantities of the common parts.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon.
>>
>> In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is
>> better functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough
>> that it makes no sense for us to stock two sizes.
>>
>> 2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2
>> foot pipes.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock
>>> for so long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the
>>> build from order to ship?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products
>>>> other than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.
>>>>
>>>> It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for
>>>> trends.  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.
>>>>
>>>> But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to
>>>> forecast.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like
>>>> politicizing toilet paper.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use
>>>> TP.  Then there will be plenty for us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted
>>>> 3-ply Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all
>>>> the Maxi rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them
>>>> to me.  Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper
>>>> printing presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t
>>>> fit in the roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re
>>>> supposed to be doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll
>>>> holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on
>>>> eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this
>>>> whole thing, 48 rolls

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Josh Luthman
OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week +
shipping mark.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant
> quantities of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship
> and that only works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the
> drop ship orders which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8
> weeks.  I offer to virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the
> rest want to use that option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large
> quantities of the common parts.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon.
>
> In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is better
> functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that it
> makes no sense for us to stock two sizes.
>
> 2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2
> foot pipes.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for
>> so long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build
>> from order to ship?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other
>>> than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.
>>>
>>> It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for
>>> trends.  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.
>>>
>>> But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like
>>> politicizing toilet paper.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use
>>> TP.  Then there will be plenty for us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply
>>> Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi
>>> rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.
>>> Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing
>>> presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in
>>> the roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed
>>> to be doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll
>>> holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on
>>> eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this
>>> whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without
>>> leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout.
>>> People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up
>>> all the pork ramen noodles though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey,
>>> sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do
>>> something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice
>>> for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If
>>> anybody happe

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant quantities 
of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship and that only 
works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the drop ship orders 
which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8 weeks.  I offer to 
virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the rest want to use that 
option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large quantities of the common 
parts.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> 
> Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon.
> 
> In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is better 
> functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that it 
> makes no sense for us to stock two sizes.
> 
> 2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2 foot 
> pipes.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for 
>>> so long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build 
>>> from order to ship?
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>>>> I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other 
>>>> than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders. 
>>>> 
>>>> It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for 
>>>> trends.  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand. 
>>>> 
>>>> But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast. 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
>>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
>>>> politicizing toilet paper.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.  
>>>> Then there will be plenty for us.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply 
>>>> Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the 
>>>> Maxi rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to 
>>>> me.  Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper 
>>>> printing presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t 
>>>> fit in the roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re 
>>>> supposed to be doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll 
>>>> holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on 
>>>> eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this 
>>>> whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without 
>>>> leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. 
>>>> People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying 
>>>> up all the pork ramen noodles though.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey, 
>>>> sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do 
>>>> something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice 
>>>> for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed 

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon.

In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is better
functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that it
makes no sense for us to stock two sizes.

2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2
foot pipes.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for
> so long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build
> from order to ship?
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>> I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other
>> than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.
>>
>> It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for
>> trends.  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.
>>
>> But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>>
>>
>> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like
>> politicizing toilet paper.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.
>> Then there will be plenty for us.
>>
>>
>>
>> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply
>> Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi
>> rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.
>> Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing
>> presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in
>> the roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed
>> to be doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll
>> holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on
>> eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>>
>>
>> Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this
>> whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without
>> leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout.
>> People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up
>> all the pork ramen noodles though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey,
>> sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do
>> something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice
>> for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If
>> anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id
>> recomend running for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store,
>> its washed salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe.
>>
>>
>>
>> If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components
>> for many parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge
>> them from vendor warehouses since they arent there
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet
>> paper
>> if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).
>>
>> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
>> actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
>> think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
>> warehoused.
>>
>> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no
>> matter
>> what the expiration date may say.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Be

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> 
> Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for so 
> long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build from 
> order to ship?
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>> I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other 
>> than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders. 
>> 
>> It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for trends. 
>>  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand. 
>> 
>> But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
>> politicizing toilet paper.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.  
>> Then there will be plenty for us.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply 
>> Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi 
>> rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  
>> Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing 
>> presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the 
>> roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be 
>> doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll holder.  
>> Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  
>> Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this 
>> whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without 
>> leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. 
>> People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up 
>> all the pork ramen noodles though.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey, 
>> sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do 
>> something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice 
>> for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If 
>> anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend 
>> running for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its washed 
>> salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for 
>> many parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge them 
>> from vendor warehouses since they arent there 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>> 
>> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
>> if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).
>> 
>> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
>> actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
>> think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
>> warehoused.
>> 
>> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
>> what the expiration date may say.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>> 
>> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
>> enough for actual desperation...
>> 
>> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> > Many are.
>> > *From:* James Howard
>> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
You could contact your rep at your favorite distributor and request that they 
stock certain items.  Either the distributors or Chuck seem like they’re 
waiting for a minimum economic order quantity before ordering or making more.

 

It seems to me that Chuck probably has too many different products.  Yes, 
someone out there loves each of them, but the end result seems to be nobody is 
stocking any of them.

 

In the M-TOW family, there probably needs to be a handful of popular, stocked 
items, and the rest are build-to-order perhaps with a minimum order quantity.  
Do we really need both 6 and 10 inch M-TOWs?  Do we really need 24, 36 and 48 
inch M-TOW-Ps?  Could some of the items be made modular so you could buy the 
parts and build several variants?  If some of the items have total annual sales 
of less than 100, maybe they should be eliminated or relegated to special order 
only.

 

I would also guess that the surge suppressor products are less of a problem for 
the distributors, because they are neither big nor heavy.  And it helps that 
most of us are probably standardizing on the CAT6 (gas tube) versions, 
eliminating the need for the LV and HV versions.  But the M-TOWs are probably a 
pain in the butt to stock and ship.

 

I guess another approach would be to use a distributor more used to selling big 
hot dip galvanized items, like Sitepro1.  They do sell third party items.  But 
maybe there would be the temptation on their part to copy the best selling 
items and have them made in China.

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for so 
long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build from 
order to ship?

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other than 
distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.  

It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for trends.  
But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.  

But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> ] On 
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
politicizing toilet paper.

 

Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.  Then 
there will be plenty for us.

 

My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra 
Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi rolls.  I 
need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  Those giant 
rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing presses.  I 
have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the roll holder on 
the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be doing, you risk a 
full roll of toilet paper getting wet.

 

I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll holder.  
Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  Regular 
M-TOWs, not the P version.)

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this whole 
thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving 
any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. People are 
weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up all the pork 
ramen noodles though.

 

Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey, sugar, 
salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do something 
with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice for each 
person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If anybody 
happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend running for 
the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its washed salt so theres 
no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe. 

 

If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for many 
parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge them from 
vendor warehouses since they arent there 

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
if you don't want th

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for
so long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build
from order to ship?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other
> than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.
>
> It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for
> trends.  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.
>
> But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like
> politicizing toilet paper.
>
>
>
> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.
> Then there will be plenty for us.
>
>
>
> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply
> Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi
> rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.
> Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing
> presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in
> the roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed
> to be doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
>
>
>
> I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll
> holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on
> eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this
> whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without
> leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout.
> People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up
> all the pork ramen noodles though.
>
>
>
> Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey,
> sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do
> something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice
> for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If
> anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id
> recomend running for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store,
> its washed salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe.
>
>
>
> If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for
> many parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge
> them from vendor warehouses since they arent there
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
> if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).
>
> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
> actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
> think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
> warehoused.
>
> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
> what the expiration date may say.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
> enough for actual desperation...
>
> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > Many are.
> > *From:* James Howard
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > So basically preppers?
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > 12 month...
> >
> > *From:*Ken Hohhof
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> >
> > *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Ch

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Robert

I am seeing a ton of Bidet adverts on the social media threads..

On 11/23/20 3:52 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

I wonder if places that use bidets look at us like WTF

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:47 PM Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:


I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was
like politicizing toilet paper.

Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to
use TP.  Then there will be plenty for us.

My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted
3-ply Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they
are all the Maxi rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll
and then send them to me.  Those giant rolls are like the rolls of
paper you see on newspaper printing presses.  I have to set them
on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the roll holder on the
wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be doing,
you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.

I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper
roll holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a
couple on eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through
this whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really
soft without leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer,
masks, etc throughout. People are weird. Imma cut some people when
i find out whose been buying up all the pork ramen noodles though.

Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry,
honey, sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I
dont remember. beans do something with their protein but still
last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice for each person in the house
packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If anybody happens to
see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend running for
the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its washed
salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe.

If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building
components for many parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we
wont be able to scavenge them from vendor warehouses since they
arent there

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find
toilet paper
if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on
your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm
thinking it's
actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit. 
Although you'd
think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and
then
warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically
forever, no matter
what the expiration date may say.


-Original Message-
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for
justification, not bad
enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> Many are.
> *From:* James Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> So basically preppers?
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> 12 month...
>
> *From:*Ken Hohhof
>
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
        >
> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month
supply in our
> pantry.
>
> *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
    > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users 

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Bill Prince

  
  
Our cousins in Portola Valley have a conversion. They also have a
  roll/dispenser on the wall. We stayed there a couple months ago. I
  did not use the bidet function.


bp

On 11/23/2020 4:25 PM, Ken Hohhof
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Apparently you can get conversion
  attachments pretty cheap.  I’m guessing you’d want the warm
  water version.  Cold water doesn’t sound like fun.
https://hellotushy.com/products/warm-water-bidet-tushy-spa
 
 

  From: AF
 On Behalf Of Steve
Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

  I wonder if places that use bidets look
at us like WTF

 

  
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:47 PM Ken
  Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
  
  

  
I
  saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face
  masks was like politicizing toilet paper.
 
Maybe
  that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to
  refuse to use TP.  Then there will be plenty for us.
 
My
  local grocery store has an entire aisle of the
  Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex
  for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi rolls.  I
  need someone to use half of each roll and then send
  them to me.  Those giant rolls are like the rolls of
  paper you see on newspaper printing presses.  I have
  to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit
  in the roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand
  washing we’re supposed to be doing, you risk a full
  roll of toilet paper getting wet.
 
I
  suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet
  paper roll holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs. 
  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not
  the P version.)
 

  From:
AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

  Ive
been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in
town through this whole thing, 48 rolls at a time,
cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving
any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc
throughout. People are weird. Imma cut some people
when i find out whose been buying up all the pork
ramen noodles though.
  
 
  
  
Rice
  never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it
  stays dry, honey, sugar, salt are the same,
  theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do
  something with their protein but still last a long
  time. I keep 20lbs rice for each person in the
  house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets.
  If anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets
  really quick, id recomend running for the hills.
  Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its
  washed salt so theres no debris, pure salt and
  msds foodsafe. 
  
  
 
  
  
If
  it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile
  building components for many parts of the
  necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to
  scavenge them from vendor warehouses since they
  arent there 
  
  
 
  
  
 
  

 

  
On
  Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
   

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Bill Prince

  
  
We're cool. We have an approximately 5 month supply.

bp

On 11/23/2020 3:46 PM, Ken Hohhof
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
I saw that some doctor was saying that
  politicizing face masks was like politicizing toilet paper.
 
Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half
  the people to refuse to use TP.  Then there will be plenty for
  us.
 
My local grocery store has an entire aisle
  of the Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex
  for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi rolls.  I need
  someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me. 
  Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on
  newspaper printing presses.  I have to set them on the vanity
  top because they don’t fit in the roll holder on the wall, and
  with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be doing, you risk
  a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
 
I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the
  wall as a toilet paper roll holder.  Except everybody’s out of
  M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  Regular M-TOWs,
  not the P version.)
 

  From: AF
 On Behalf Of Steve
Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

  Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial
supply here in town through this whole thing, 48 rolls at a
time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving any
furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout.
People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose
been buying up all the pork ramen noodles though.
  
 
  
  
Rice never loses any nutrient or taste
  as long as it stays dry, honey, sugar, salt are the same,
  theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do something
  with their protein but still last a long time. I keep
  20lbs rice for each person in the house packed in 2 cup
  packages in sealed buckets. If anybody happens to see me
  toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend running
  for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store,
  its washed salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds
  foodsafe. 
  
  
 
  
  
If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be
  pretty versatile building components for many parts of the
  necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge them
  from vendor warehouses since they arent there 
  
  
 
  
  
 
  

 

  
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken
  Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
  
  
Most of the shortages seem to have
  abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
  if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit
  on your holders).
  
  The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit. 
  I'm thinking it's
  actually the cans that are in short supply, not the
  fruit.  Although you'd
  think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall
  and then
  warehoused.
  
  Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically
  forever, no matter
  what the expiration date may say.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
  Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
  
  2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for
  justification, not bad
  enough for actual desperation...
  
  On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:
  > Many are.
  > *From:* James Howard
  > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
  > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
          > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
  > 
  > So basically preppers?
  > 
  > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
  > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Steve Jones
i just dont know, the new cars all have seat warmers and those make me feel
really uncomfortable. cold water would keep everything about business

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:26 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Apparently you can get conversion attachments pretty cheap.  I’m guessing
> you’d want the warm water version.  Cold water doesn’t sound like fun.
>
> https://hellotushy.com/products/warm-water-bidet-tushy-spa
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 5:53 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> I wonder if places that use bidets look at us like WTF
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:47 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like
> politicizing toilet paper.
>
>
>
> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.
> Then there will be plenty for us.
>
>
>
> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply
> Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi
> rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.
> Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing
> presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in
> the roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed
> to be doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
>
>
>
> I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll
> holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on
> eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this
> whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without
> leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout.
> People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up
> all the pork ramen noodles though.
>
>
>
> Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey,
> sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do
> something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice
> for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If
> anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id
> recomend running for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store,
> its washed salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe.
>
>
>
> If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for
> many parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge
> them from vendor warehouses since they arent there
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
> if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).
>
> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
> actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
> think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
> warehoused.
>
> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
> what the expiration date may say.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
> enough for actual desperation...
>
> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > Many are.
> > *From:* James Howard
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > So basically preppers?
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > 12 month...
> >
> > *From:*Ken Hohhof
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> >
> > *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in o

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
Apparently you can get conversion attachments pretty cheap.  I’m guessing you’d 
want the warm water version.  Cold water doesn’t sound like fun.

https://hellotushy.com/products/warm-water-bidet-tushy-spa

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I wonder if places that use bidets look at us like WTF

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:47 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
politicizing toilet paper.

 

Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.  Then 
there will be plenty for us.

 

My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra 
Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi rolls.  I 
need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  Those giant 
rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing presses.  I 
have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the roll holder on 
the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be doing, you risk a 
full roll of toilet paper getting wet.

 

I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll holder.  
Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  Regular 
M-TOWs, not the P version.)

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this whole 
thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving 
any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. People are 
weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up all the pork 
ramen noodles though.

 

Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey, sugar, 
salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do something 
with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice for each 
person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If anybody 
happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend running for 
the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its washed salt so theres 
no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe. 

 

If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for many 
parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge them from 
vendor warehouses since they arent there 

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
what the expiration date may say.


-Original Message-
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:
> Many are.
> *From:* James Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> So basically preppers?
> 
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> 12 month...
> 
> *From:*Ken Hohhof
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> 
> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
> pantry.
> 
> *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
&

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Steve Jones
burning down their homes might get the point across, especially with winter
coming on. It will get cold sleeping in an ash pile

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other
> than distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.
>
> It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for
> trends.  But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.
>
> But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like
> politicizing toilet paper.
>
>
>
> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.
> Then there will be plenty for us.
>
>
>
> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply
> Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi
> rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.
> Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing
> presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in
> the roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed
> to be doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
>
>
>
> I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll
> holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on
> eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this
> whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without
> leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout.
> People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up
> all the pork ramen noodles though.
>
>
>
> Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey,
> sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do
> something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice
> for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If
> anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id
> recomend running for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store,
> its washed salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe.
>
>
>
> If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for
> many parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge
> them from vendor warehouses since they arent there
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
> if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).
>
> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
> actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
> think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
> warehoused.
>
> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
> what the expiration date may say.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
> enough for actual desperation...
>
> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > Many are.
> > *From:* James Howard
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > So basically preppers?
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > 12 month...
> >
> > *From:*Ken Hohhof
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> >
> > *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Chuck probably figures we keep the st

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other than 
distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.  

It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for trends.  
But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.  

But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
politicizing toilet paper.

 

Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.  Then 
there will be plenty for us.

 

My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra 
Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi rolls.  I 
need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  Those giant 
rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing presses.  I 
have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the roll holder on 
the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be doing, you risk a 
full roll of toilet paper getting wet.

 

I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll holder.  
Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  Regular 
M-TOWs, not the P version.)

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this whole 
thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving 
any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. People are 
weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up all the pork 
ramen noodles though.

 

Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey, sugar, 
salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do something 
with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice for each 
person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If anybody 
happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend running for 
the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its washed salt so theres 
no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe. 

 

If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for many 
parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge them from 
vendor warehouses since they arent there 

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
what the expiration date may say.


-Original Message-
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:
> Many are.
> *From:* James Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> So basically preppers?
> 
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> 12 month...
> 
> *From:*Ken Hohhof
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> 
> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
> pantry.
> 
> *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Steve Jones
I wonder if places that use bidets look at us like WTF

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:47 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like
> politicizing toilet paper.
>
>
>
> Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.
> Then there will be plenty for us.
>
>
>
> My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply
> Ultra Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi
> rolls.  I need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.
> Those giant rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing
> presses.  I have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in
> the roll holder on the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed
> to be doing, you risk a full roll of toilet paper getting wet.
>
>
>
> I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll
> holder.  Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on
> eBay.  Regular M-TOWs, not the P version.)
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this
> whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without
> leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout.
> People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up
> all the pork ramen noodles though.
>
>
>
> Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey,
> sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do
> something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice
> for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If
> anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id
> recomend running for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store,
> its washed salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe.
>
>
>
> If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for
> many parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge
> them from vendor warehouses since they arent there
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
> if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).
>
> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
> actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
> think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
> warehoused.
>
> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
> what the expiration date may say.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
> enough for actual desperation...
>
> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > Many are.
> > *From:* James Howard
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > So basically preppers?
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > 12 month...
> >
> > *From:*Ken Hohhof
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> >
> > *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our
> > pantry.
> >
> > *From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net
> >  wrote:
> >
> > If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
> > you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
> >
> > sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
> > to you

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
politicizing toilet paper.

 

Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.  Then 
there will be plenty for us.

 

My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra 
Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi rolls.  I 
need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  Those giant 
rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing presses.  I 
have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the roll holder on 
the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be doing, you risk a 
full roll of toilet paper getting wet.

 

I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll holder.  
Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  Regular 
M-TOWs, not the P version.)

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this whole 
thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving 
any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. People are 
weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up all the pork 
ramen noodles though.

 

Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey, sugar, 
salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do something 
with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice for each 
person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If anybody 
happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend running for 
the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its washed salt so theres 
no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe. 

 

If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for many 
parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge them from 
vendor warehouses since they arent there 

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
what the expiration date may say.


-Original Message-
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:
> Many are.
> *From:* James Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> So basically preppers?
> 
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> 12 month...
> 
> *From:*Ken Hohhof
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> 
> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
> pantry.
> 
> *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
> <mailto:can...@believewireless.net>  
> mailto:p...@believewireless.net> > wrote:
> 
> If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
> you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
> 
> sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
> to your business other than an easy way for customers
> 
> to order your product?
> 
> I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
products.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Steve Jones
Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this
whole thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without
leaving any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout.
People are weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up
all the pork ramen noodles though.

Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey,
sugar, salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do
something with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice
for each person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If
anybody happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id
recomend running for the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store,
its washed salt so theres no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe.

If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for
many parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge
them from vendor warehouses since they arent there



On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
> if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).
>
> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
> actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
> think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
> warehoused.
>
> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
> what the expiration date may say.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
> enough for actual desperation...
>
> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > Many are.
> > *From:* James Howard
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > So basically preppers?
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > 12 month...
> >
> > *From:*Ken Hohhof
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> >
> > *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our
> > pantry.
> >
> > *From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net
> >  wrote:
> >
> > If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
> > you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
> >
> > sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
> > to your business other than an easy way for customers
> >
> > to order your product?
> >
> > I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
> products.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:
> >
> > Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
> > gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
> > of safety stock would not cure.
> >
> >         I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
> > stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
> > too tight for them to do that.
> >
> > *From:*Josh Luthman
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
> >
> > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > *sigh* daily struggle
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
> >
> > Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
> > in inventory.
> >
> > *From:*Josh Luthman
>

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Josh Luthman
It isn't urgent.  This is just to fill our stock.  I learned a long time
ago that I need to have my own storage room of items since a) waiting on
items before the job can get started is a joke and b) none of the
distributors stock shit

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 3:52 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> If this is an urgent need, can you just use pipe-to-pipe clamps and a
> piece of pipe?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 2:23 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> For 6+ weeks?
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 3:12 PM David Coudron <
> david.coud...@advantenon.com> wrote:
>
> We have some on back order as well.
>
>
>
> *David Coudron*
>
> david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  *Mobile: *612-991-7474
>
>
>
> *Advantenon, Inc.  *
>
> i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
> 55447  |  www.advantenon.com  |  *Phone:* 800-704-4720  |  *Local: *
> 612-454-1545
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 9:22 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> Has anyone been able to get MTOWP since Oct 8?  I'm still waiting on my
> back order from then.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:35 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I believe white rice has the bran layer removed which is also where the oil
> resides.  Brown rice is probably "healthier" but only has about a 6 month
> shelf life.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:03 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> It was brown Basmati rice. is there oil in that?
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 10/9/2020 4:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > Supposedly brown or wild rice goes bad but white rice doesn't.  Which
> type
> did you have?  Sounds like oil went rancid.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> > Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:40 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I go
> into Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even the
> local
> grocery has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no worries there.
> >
> > There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.
> >
> > So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.
> >
> > Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar
> that we closed up & then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we
> forgot
> about it for at least a year (maybe two). When we opened it up recently, it
> was still "rice", but it smelled terrible.
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet
> >> paper if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your
> holders).
> >>
> >> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking
> >> it's actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.
> >> Although you'd think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or
> >> fall and then warehoused.
> >>
> >> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no
> >> matter what the expiration date may say.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> >> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> >> To: af@af.afmug.com
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>
> >> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not
> >> bad enough for actual desperation...
> >>
> >> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> >>> Many are.
> >>> *From:* James Howard
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
If this is an urgent need, can you just use pipe-to-pipe clamps and a piece of 
pipe?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 2:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

For 6+ weeks?


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 3:12 PM David Coudron mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com> > wrote:

We have some on back order as well.

 

David Coudron

 <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com> david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 
612-991-7474

 

Advantenon, Inc.

 <mailto:i...@advantenon.com> i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, 
Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447  |   <http://www.advantenon.com/> 
www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545 

 



 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 9:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Has anyone been able to get MTOWP since Oct 8?  I'm still waiting on my back 
order from then.


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:35 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I believe white rice has the bran layer removed which is also where the oil
resides.  Brown rice is probably "healthier" but only has about a 6 month
shelf life.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:03 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

It was brown Basmati rice. is there oil in that?


bp


On 10/9/2020 4:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Supposedly brown or wild rice goes bad but white rice doesn't.  Which type
did you have?  Sounds like oil went rancid.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:40 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I go
into Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even the local
grocery has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no worries there.
>
> There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.
>
> So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.
>
> Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar
that we closed up & then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we forgot
about it for at least a year (maybe two). When we opened it up recently, it
was still "rice", but it smelled terrible.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet 
>> paper if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your
holders).
>>
>> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking 
>> it's actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.
>> Although you'd think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or 
>> fall and then warehoused.
>>
>> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no 
>> matter what the expiration date may say.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not 
>> bad enough for actual desperation...
>>
>> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:
>>> Many are.
>>> *From:* James Howard
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> So basically preppers?
>>>
>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
>>> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> 12 month...
>>>
>>> *From:*Ken Hohhof
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
>>>
>>> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Josh Luthman
For 6+ weeks?

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 3:12 PM David Coudron 
wrote:

> We have some on back order as well.
>
>
>
> *David Coudron*
>
> david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  *Mobile: *612-991-7474
>
>
>
> *Advantenon, Inc.  *
>
> i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
> 55447  |  www.advantenon.com  |  *Phone:* 800-704-4720  |  *Local: *
> 612-454-1545
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 9:22 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
>
>
> Has anyone been able to get MTOWP since Oct 8?  I'm still waiting on my
> back order from then.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:35 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I believe white rice has the bran layer removed which is also where the oil
> resides.  Brown rice is probably "healthier" but only has about a 6 month
> shelf life.
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:03 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> It was brown Basmati rice. is there oil in that?
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 10/9/2020 4:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > Supposedly brown or wild rice goes bad but white rice doesn't.  Which
> type
> did you have?  Sounds like oil went rancid.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> > Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:40 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I go
> into Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even the
> local
> grocery has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no worries there.
> >
> > There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.
> >
> > So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.
> >
> > Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar
> that we closed up & then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we
> forgot
> about it for at least a year (maybe two). When we opened it up recently, it
> was still "rice", but it smelled terrible.
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet
> >> paper if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your
> holders).
> >>
> >> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking
> >> it's actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.
> >> Although you'd think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or
> >> fall and then warehoused.
> >>
> >> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no
> >> matter what the expiration date may say.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> >> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> >> To: af@af.afmug.com
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>
> >> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not
> >> bad enough for actual desperation...
> >>
> >> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> >>> Many are.
> >>> *From:* James Howard
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>>
> >>> So basically preppers?
> >>>
> >>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>>
> >>> 12 month...
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Ken Hohhof
> >>>
> >>> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> >>>
> >>> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >>>
> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>>
> >>> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in
> >>> our pantry.
> >>&

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread David Coudron
We have some on back order as well.

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>  |  Mobile: 
612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com<mailto:i...@advantenon.com>  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, 
Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447  |  
www.advantenon.com<http://www.advantenon.com/>  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  
Local: 612-454-1545

[cid:image001.jpg@01D6C17A.82EEFE80]

From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 9:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Has anyone been able to get MTOWP since Oct 8?  I'm still waiting on my back 
order from then.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:35 PM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I believe white rice has the bran layer removed which is also where the oil
resides.  Brown rice is probably "healthier" but only has about a 6 month
shelf life.

-Original Message-
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:03 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

It was brown Basmati rice. is there oil in that?


bp


On 10/9/2020 4:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Supposedly brown or wild rice goes bad but white rice doesn't.  Which type
did you have?  Sounds like oil went rancid.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:40 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I go
into Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even the local
grocery has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no worries there.
>
> There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.
>
> So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.
>
> Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar
that we closed up & then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we forgot
about it for at least a year (maybe two). When we opened it up recently, it
was still "rice", but it smelled terrible.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet
>> paper if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your
holders).
>>
>> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking
>> it's actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.
>> Although you'd think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or
>> fall and then warehoused.
>>
>> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no
>> matter what the expiration date may say.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not
>> bad enough for actual desperation...
>>
>> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>> Many are.
>>> *From:* James Howard
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> So basically preppers?
>>>
>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On 
>>> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>>> mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> 12 month...
>>>
>>> *From:*Ken Hohhof
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
>>>
>>> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in
>>> our pantry.
>>>
>>> *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>&

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-11-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Has anyone been able to get MTOWP since Oct 8?  I'm still waiting on my
back order from then.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:35 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I believe white rice has the bran layer removed which is also where the oil
> resides.  Brown rice is probably "healthier" but only has about a 6 month
> shelf life.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:03 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> It was brown Basmati rice. is there oil in that?
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 10/9/2020 4:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > Supposedly brown or wild rice goes bad but white rice doesn't.  Which
> type
> did you have?  Sounds like oil went rancid.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> > Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:40 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I go
> into Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even the
> local
> grocery has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no worries there.
> >
> > There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.
> >
> > So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.
> >
> > Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar
> that we closed up & then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we
> forgot
> about it for at least a year (maybe two). When we opened it up recently, it
> was still "rice", but it smelled terrible.
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet
> >> paper if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your
> holders).
> >>
> >> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking
> >> it's actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.
> >> Although you'd think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or
> >> fall and then warehoused.
> >>
> >> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no
> >> matter what the expiration date may say.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> >> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> >> To: af@af.afmug.com
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>
> >> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not
> >> bad enough for actual desperation...
> >>
> >> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> >>> Many are.
> >>> *From:* James Howard
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>>
> >>> So basically preppers?
> >>>
> >>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>>
> >>> 12 month...
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Ken Hohhof
> >>>
> >>> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> >>>
> >>> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >>>
> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>>
> >>> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in
> >>> our pantry.
> >>>
> >>> *From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >>>
> >>> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around?
> If
> >>>   you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
> >>>
> >>>   sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they
> adding
> >>>   to your business other than an easy way for customers
> >

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I believe white rice has the bran layer removed which is also where the oil
resides.  Brown rice is probably "healthier" but only has about a 6 month
shelf life.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:03 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

It was brown Basmati rice. is there oil in that?


bp


On 10/9/2020 4:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Supposedly brown or wild rice goes bad but white rice doesn't.  Which type
did you have?  Sounds like oil went rancid.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:40 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I go
into Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even the local
grocery has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no worries there.
>
> There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.
>
> So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.
>
> Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar
that we closed up & then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we forgot
about it for at least a year (maybe two). When we opened it up recently, it
was still "rice", but it smelled terrible.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet 
>> paper if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your
holders).
>>
>> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking 
>> it's actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.
>> Although you'd think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or 
>> fall and then warehoused.
>>
>> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no 
>> matter what the expiration date may say.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not 
>> bad enough for actual desperation...
>>
>> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> Many are.
>>> *From:* James Howard
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> So basically preppers?
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> 12 month...
>>>
>>> *From:*Ken Hohhof
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
>>>
>>> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in 
>>> our pantry.
>>>
>>> *From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>   If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
>>>   you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
>>>
>>>   sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they
adding
>>>   to your business other than an easy way for customers
>>>
>>>   to order your product?
>>>
>>>   I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
>> products.
>>>       On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>   Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have
a
>>>   gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a
bit
>>>   of safety stock would not cure.
>>>
>>>   I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They
can
>>>   stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must
be
>>>   too tight for them to do that.
>>>
>>>   *From:*Josh Luthman
>>>
>>>   *Sent:*Friday, Oc

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Racist

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Supposedly brown or wild rice goes bad but white rice doesn't.  Which type 
> did you have?  Sounds like oil went rancid.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:40 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I go 
> into Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even the local 
> grocery has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no worries there.
> 
> There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.
> 
> So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.
> 
> Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar that 
> we closed up & then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we forgot about 
> it for at least a year (maybe two). When we opened it up recently, it was 
> still "rice", but it smelled terrible.
> 
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet 
>> paper if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your 
>> holders).
>> 
>> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking 
>> it's actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  
>> Although you'd think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or 
>> fall and then warehoused.
>> 
>> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no 
>> matter what the expiration date may say.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>> 
>> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not 
>> bad enough for actual desperation...
>> 
>>> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> Many are.
>>> *From:* James Howard
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>> 
>>> So basically preppers?
>>> 
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>> 
>>> 12 month...
>>> 
>>> *From:*Ken Hohhof
>>> 
>>> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
>>> 
>>> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> 
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>> 
>>> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
>>> pantry.
>>> 
>>> *From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>> 
>>> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
>>> you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
>>> 
>>> sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
>>> to your business other than an easy way for customers
>>> 
>>> to order your product?
>>> 
>>> I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
>> products.
>>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
>>> gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
>>> of safety stock would not cure.
>>> 
>>> I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
>>> stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
>>> too tight for them to do that.
>>> 
>>> *From:*Josh Luthman
>>> 
>>> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
>>> 
>>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> 
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>> 
>>> *sigh* daily struggle
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>&

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Bill Prince

It was brown Basmati rice. is there oil in that?


bp


On 10/9/2020 4:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Supposedly brown or wild rice goes bad but white rice doesn't.  Which type did 
you have?  Sounds like oil went rancid.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:40 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I go into 
Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even the local grocery 
has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no worries there.

There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.

So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.

Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar that we closed up 
& then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we forgot about it for at least a year 
(maybe two). When we opened it up recently, it was still "rice", but it smelled 
terrible.


bp


On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet
paper if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking
it's actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.
Although you'd think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or
fall and then warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no
matter what the expiration date may say.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not
bad enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Many are.
*From:* James Howard
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

So basically preppers?

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

12 month...

*From:*Ken Hohhof

*Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM

*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our
pantry.

*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net
 wrote:

  If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
  you are drop shipping everything, then why not just

  sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
  to your business other than an easy way for customers

  to order your product?

  I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your

products.

  On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:

  Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
  gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
  of safety stock would not cure.

  I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
  stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
  too tight for them to do that.

  *From:*Josh Luthman

  *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM

  *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

      *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

  *sigh* daily struggle

  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:

  Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
  in inventory.

  *From:*Josh Luthman

  *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM

  *To:*AFMUG

  *Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

  Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does
  any secondary distributor have some?

  Something wrong at the factory Chuck?

  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  
-

-
--

  --
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  --
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/ma

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Supposedly brown or wild rice goes bad but white rice doesn't.  Which type did 
you have?  Sounds like oil went rancid.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:40 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I go into 
Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even the local grocery 
has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no worries there.

There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.

So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.

Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar that we 
closed up & then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we forgot about it 
for at least a year (maybe two). When we opened it up recently, it was still 
"rice", but it smelled terrible.


bp


On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet 
> paper if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your 
> holders).
>
> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking 
> it's actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  
> Although you'd think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or 
> fall and then warehoused.
>
> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no 
> matter what the expiration date may say.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not 
> bad enough for actual desperation...
>
> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> Many are.
>> *From:* James Howard
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> So basically preppers?
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> 12 month...
>>
>> *From:*Ken Hohhof
>>
>> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
>>
>> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
>> pantry.
>>
>> *From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
>>  you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
>>
>>  sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
>>  to your business other than an easy way for customers
>>
>>  to order your product?
>>
>>  I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
> products.
>>  On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:
>>
>>  Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
>>  gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
>>  of safety stock would not cure.
>>
>>  I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
>>  stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
>>  too tight for them to do that.
>>
>>  *From:*Josh Luthman
>>
>>  *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
>>
>>  *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>>  *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>>  *sigh* daily struggle
>>
>>  Josh Luthman
>>  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>  Direct: 937-552-2343
>>  1100 Wayne St
>>  Suite 1337
>>  Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>  On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
>>
>>  Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
>>  in inventory.
>>
>>  *From:*Josh Luthman
>>
>>  *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
>>
>>  *To:*AFMUG
>>
>>  *Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x 

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
True, there are people with guns everywhere.

 



 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason Wilson
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:13 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Apparently you have not tried to purchase a firearm or ammunition. 

 

First time gun owner has skyrocketed this year. 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 16:04 Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> 
> wrote:

Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
what the expiration date may say.


-Original Message-
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:
> Many are.
> *From:* James Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> So basically preppers?
> 
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> 12 month...
> 
> *From:*Ken Hohhof
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> 
> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
> pantry.
> 
> *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
> <mailto:can...@believewireless.net>  
> mailto:p...@believewireless.net> > wrote:
> 
> If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
> you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
> 
> sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
> to your business other than an easy way for customers
> 
> to order your product?
> 
> I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
products.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
> > wrote:
> 
> Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
> gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
> of safety stock would not cure.
> 
> I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
> stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
> too tight for them to do that.
> 
> *From:*Josh Luthman
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
> 
> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> *sigh* daily struggle
> 
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:
> 
> Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
> in inventory.
> 
> *From:*Josh Luthman
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
> 
> *To:*AFMUG
> 
> *Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does
> any secondary distributor have some?
> 
> Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Bill Prince
Stores around here seem to have tons of TP. I see pallets of it when I 
go into Home Depot. The San Carlos Costco has a wall full of it. Even 
the local grocery has what looks like normal shelves full of. So no 
worries there.


There also seems to be plenty of stock of canned fruit.

So maybe there is some regional-ness to it all.

Rice does go stale at least. We had poured some surplus rice into a jar 
that we closed up & then stuck it in  the back of the pantry where we 
forgot about it for at least a year (maybe two). When we opened it up 
recently, it was still "rice", but it smelled terrible.



bp


On 10/9/2020 4:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
what the expiration date may say.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Many are.
*From:* James Howard
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

So basically preppers?

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

12 month...

*From:*Ken Hohhof

*Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM

*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our
pantry.

*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net
 wrote:

 If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
 you are drop shipping everything, then why not just

 sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
 to your business other than an easy way for customers

 to order your product?

 I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your

products.

 On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:

 Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
 gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
 of safety stock would not cure.

 I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
 stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
 too tight for them to do that.

 *From:*Josh Luthman

 *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM

 *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

     *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 *sigh* daily struggle

 Josh Luthman
 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:

 Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
 in inventory.

 *From:*Josh Luthman

 *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM

 *To:*AFMUG

 *Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does
 any secondary distributor have some?

 Something wrong at the factory Chuck?

 Josh Luthman
 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 
--

--

 --
 AF mailing list
 AF@af.afmug.com
 http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

 --
 AF mailing list
 AF@af.afmug.com
 http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

 
--

--

 --
 AF mailing list
 AF@af.afmug.com
 http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

 --
 AF mailing list
 AF@af.afmug.com
 http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

 --
 AF mailing list
 AF@af.afmug.com
 http:

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread chuck

MEGA rolls, Making Excrement Great Again?
Now that is a hat I might wear.  

-Original Message- 
From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 5:03 PM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24 


Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
what the expiration date may say.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Many are.
*From:* James Howard
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

So basically preppers?

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

12 month...

*From:*Ken Hohhof

*Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM

*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
pantry.


*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
 wrote:


If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
you are drop shipping everything, then why not just

sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
to your business other than an easy way for customers

to order your product?

I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your

products.


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:

Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
of safety stock would not cure.

I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
too tight for them to do that.

*From:*Josh Luthman

*Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

*sigh* daily struggle

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:

Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
in inventory.

*From:*Josh Luthman

*Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM

*To:*AFMUG

*Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does
any secondary distributor have some?

Something wrong at the factory Chuck?

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


--

--

-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


--

--

-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

--
--

--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

--
--

*Total Control Panel*



Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net>

To: ja...@litewire.net
<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2422

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Jason Wilson
Apparently you have not tried to purchase a firearm or ammunition.

First time gun owner has skyrocketed this year.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 16:04 Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
> if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).
>
> The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
> actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
> think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
> warehoused.
>
> Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
> what the expiration date may say.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> 2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
> enough for actual desperation...
>
> On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > Many are.
> > *From:* James Howard
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > So basically preppers?
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > 12 month...
> >
> > *From:*Ken Hohhof
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> >
> > *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our
> > pantry.
> >
> > *From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net
> >  wrote:
> >
> > If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
> > you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
> >
> > sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
> > to your business other than an easy way for customers
> >
> > to order your product?
> >
> > I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
> products.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:
> >
> > Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
> > gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
> > of safety stock would not cure.
> >
> >         I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
> > stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
> > too tight for them to do that.
> >
> > *From:*Josh Luthman
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
> >
> > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >
> > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > *sigh* daily struggle
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
> >
> > Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
> > in inventory.
> >
> > *From:*Josh Luthman
> >
> > *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
> >
> > *To:*AFMUG
> >
> > *Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> >
> > Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does
> > any secondary distributor have some?
> >
> > Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> >
> > --
> > AF mailing list
> > AF@af.afmug.com
> >  

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
what the expiration date may say.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> Many are.
> *From:* James Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> So basically preppers?
> 
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> 12 month...
> 
> *From:*Ken Hohhof
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> 
> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
> pantry.
> 
> *From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
>  wrote:
> 
> If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
> you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
> 
> sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
> to your business other than an easy way for customers
> 
> to order your product?
> 
> I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
products.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:
> 
> Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
> gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
> of safety stock would not cure.
> 
> I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
> stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
> too tight for them to do that.
> 
>     *From:*Josh Luthman
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
> 
> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> *sigh* daily struggle
> 
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
> 
> Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
> in inventory.
> 
> *From:*Josh Luthman
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
> 
> *To:*AFMUG
> 
> *Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does
> any secondary distributor have some?
> 
> Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> --
> --
> 
> -- 
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> 
> -- 
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> 
> 
> --
> --
> 
> -- 
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> 
> -- 
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> 
> -- 
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Robert Andrews
2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad 
enough for actual desperation...


On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Many are.
*From:* James Howard
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

So basically preppers?

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

12 month...

*From:*Ken Hohhof

*Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM

*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
pantry.


*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
 wrote:


If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
you are drop shipping everything, then why not just

sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
to your business other than an easy way for customers

to order your product?

I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your products.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:

Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
of safety stock would not cure.

I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
too tight for them to do that.

*From:*Josh Luthman

*Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

*sigh* daily struggle

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:

Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
in inventory.

*From:*Josh Luthman

*Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM

*To:*AFMUG

*Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does
any secondary distributor have some?

Something wrong at the factory Chuck?

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373




-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com



-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com



--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com



*Total Control Panel*



Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net>

To: ja...@litewire.net 
<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993=litewire.net>


From: af-boun...@af.afmug.com



/You received this message because the domain afmug.com is on your allow 
list./



--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yes, after the zombie apocalypse, a year's supply of MTOWs will be useful
for fending off the zombies trying to get your Vienna sausages.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of James Howard
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 3:28 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

So basically preppers?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

12 month...

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our
pantry.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net
<mailto:can...@believewireless.net>  mailto:p...@believewireless.net> > wrote:

If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If you are
drop shipping everything, then why not just 

sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding to your
business other than an easy way for customers

to order your product?

 

I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your products.

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >
wrote:

Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in
production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock
would not cure.  

 

I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it
here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them to
do that.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

*sigh* daily struggle


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >
wrote:

Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM

To: AFMUG 

Subject: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary
distributor have some? 

 

Something wrong at the factory Chuck?


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


  _  


-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


  _  


-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  _  

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  _  



Total Control Panel

Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> 




To: ja...@litewire.net
<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993=litewire.
net> 


From: af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> 




You received this message because the domain afmug.com is on your allow
list.

 

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread chuck
Many are.  

From: James Howard 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

So basically preppers?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

12 month...

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our pantry.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
 wrote:

  If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If you are 
drop shipping everything, then why not just 

  sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding to your 
business other than an easy way for customers

  to order your product?

   

  I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your products.

   

  On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:

Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in 
production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock would 
not cure.  

 

I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it 
here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them to do 
that.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

*sigh* daily struggle


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:

  Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory. 
 

   

  From: Josh Luthman 

  Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM

  To: AFMUG 

  Subject: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

   

  Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary 
distributor have some? 

   

  Something wrong at the factory Chuck?


   

  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


--

  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




Total Control Panel
   Login
   
 
  To: ja...@litewire.net
 
  From: af-boun...@af.afmug.com
 

   
 
You received this message because the domain afmug.com is on your 
allow list.
   
 

 




-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread chuck
Doesn’t do them much good if I don’t have stock.  I build to order, not to 
stock.  

From: Jason Wilson 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 12:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Doesn't the distribution chain know the term drop ship?

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 10:31 Josh Luthman  wrote:

  *sigh* daily struggle


  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:

Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
To: AFMUG 
Subject: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary 
distributor have some? 

Something wrong at the factory Chuck?


Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread James Howard
So basically preppers?

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

12 month...

From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our pantry.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM 
can...@believewireless.net<mailto:can...@believewireless.net> 
mailto:p...@believewireless.net>> wrote:
If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If you are drop 
shipping everything, then why not just
sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding to your 
business other than an easy way for customers
to order your product?

I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your products.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in 
production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock would 
not cure.

I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it here 
and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them to do that.

From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

*sigh* daily struggle

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory.

From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
To: AFMUG
Subject: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary 
distributor have some?

Something wrong at the factory Chuck?

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

--
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Total Control Panel

Login<https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net>


To: 
ja...@litewire.net<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993=litewire.net>

From: af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>





You received this message because the domain afmug.com is on your allow list.



-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Jason Wilson
Doesn't the distribution chain know the term drop ship?

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 10:31 Josh Luthman  wrote:

> *sigh* daily struggle
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
>
>> Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in
>> inventory.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
>> *To:* AFMUG
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary
>> distributor have some?
>>
>> Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> --
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread chuck
12 month...

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our pantry.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
 wrote:

  If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If you are 
drop shipping everything, then why not just 

  sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding to your 
business other than an easy way for customers

  to order your product?

   

  I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your products.

   

  On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:

Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in 
production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock would 
not cure.  

 

I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it 
here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them to do 
that.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

*sigh* daily struggle


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:

  Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory. 
 

   

  From: Josh Luthman 

  Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM

  To: AFMUG 

  Subject: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

   

  Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary 
distributor have some? 

   

  Something wrong at the factory Chuck?


   

  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


--

  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our pantry.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
<mailto:can...@believewireless.net>  mailto:p...@believewireless.net> > wrote:

If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If you are drop 
shipping everything, then why not just 

sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding to your 
business other than an easy way for customers

to order your product?

 

I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your products.

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in 
production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock would 
not cure.  

 

I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it here 
and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them to do 
that.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

*sigh* daily struggle


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM

To: AFMUG 

Subject: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary 
distributor have some? 

 

Something wrong at the factory Chuck?


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


  _  


-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


  _  


-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Jason McKemie
I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If you are
> drop shipping everything, then why not just
> sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding to
> your business other than an easy way for customers
> to order your product?
>
> I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your products.
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:
>
>> Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in
>> production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock
>> would not cure.
>>
>> I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it
>> here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them
>> to do that.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> *sigh* daily struggle
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in
>>> inventory.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
>>> *To:* AFMUG
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>>
>>> Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary
>>> distributor have some?
>>>
>>> Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> --
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>> --
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread SmarterBroadband
Yep, we ordered end of June and they have just shipped.

 

I would like to but direct.   Sick of waiting months for M-TOW stuff.

 

Adam

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:15 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Well it's not just WBMFG it's every other product line I'm after.  At least you 
offer free assistance - that is very generous!  I don't want to hear anyone 
blame COVID19 because it was a problem in 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, etc...


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in 
production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock would 
not cure.  

 

I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it here 
and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them to do 
that.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

*sigh* daily struggle


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM

To: AFMUG 

Subject: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary 
distributor have some? 

 

Something wrong at the factory Chuck?


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


  _  


-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


  _  


-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread can...@believewireless.net
If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If you are
drop shipping everything, then why not just
sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding to your
business other than an easy way for customers
to order your product?

I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your products.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:

> Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in
> production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock
> would not cure.
>
> I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it
> here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them
> to do that.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> *sigh* daily struggle
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
>
>> Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in
>> inventory.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
>> *To:* AFMUG
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary
>> distributor have some?
>>
>> Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> --
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
> --
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Well it's not just WBMFG it's every other product line I'm after.  At least
you offer free assistance - that is very generous!  I don't want to hear
anyone blame COVID19 because it was a problem in 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017,
2016, etc...

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM  wrote:

> Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in
> production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock
> would not cure.
>
> I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it
> here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them
> to do that.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> *sigh* daily struggle
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:
>
>> Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in
>> inventory.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
>> *To:* AFMUG
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>>
>> Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary
>> distributor have some?
>>
>> Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> --
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
> --
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread chuck
Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a gap in 
production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit of safety stock would 
not cure.  

I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can stock it here 
and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be too tight for them to do 
that.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

*sigh* daily struggle


Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:

  Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
  To: AFMUG 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

  Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary 
distributor have some? 

  Something wrong at the factory Chuck?


  Josh Luthman
  24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

--
  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
*sigh* daily struggle

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM  wrote:

> Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
> *To:* AFMUG
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
>
> Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary
> distributor have some?
>
> Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> --
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com


Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020-10-09 Thread chuck
Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash in inventory.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
To: AFMUG 
Subject: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does any secondary 
distributor have some? 

Something wrong at the factory Chuck?


Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com