[AFMUG] epmp 2.3.3
We were brave and upgraded a bunch of SMs ... There is still a routing problem when using separate IP for managment in NAT-Mode. Management Interface is working but using the normal IP Standard Gateway does not work. So you think all is ok as you reach the SM but customer calls ... Back to 2.3.1-rc7 now. Looks like they adapted to the MT-Way of testing :(
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:14:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Thanks! This is what I ordered: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007OXK1M8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Amazon Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 07:58 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Matt, Where do you get that stuff? Looks great! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 8:02 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com mailto: af@afmug.com wrote: I use 3M Dual Lock http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Adhesives/ Tapes/Brands/Dual-Lock-Reclosable-Fasteners/ It works at really low and high temps. Its like velcro but WAY better. Sticks to anything. You can buy it in long rolls and cut it to the size you need. The next step is training everyone to carry it with them when they go to a site to fix something. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 09:20 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: In Europe... it is common for the yellow light to flash before green as well. Concept being it gives you time to put your car in gear before you go (automatics are still fairly uncommon there). Took me awhile to get used to... although I drive now in Europe at least twice a year. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:14:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] WispaAmerica Speakers
On 12/15/2014 10:51 PM, Nathan Stooke All via Af wrote: Hello, It is hard to believe that WispAmerica is just around the corner, the agenda committee is hard at work already. We have the agenda posted on the website and are starting to look for speakers and moderators. Please check out the agenda and let me know if you are interested in speaking on a topic or 2. Nathan, this list doesn't give me your email address. Hit me offlist at but...@butchevans.com or call me (number below) this afternoon. Email is likely better. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Definitely CGI. Notice how the HUD is always drawing for the camera’s point of view, not the drivers themselves. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
On 12/16/14, 6:47 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. The pedestrian signal countdown timers effectively are the same thing and they're everywhere, at least where I am. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
The average driver doesn't know how to use that... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/16/14, 6:47 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. The pedestrian signal countdown timers effectively are the same thing and they're everywhere, at least where I am. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Half of the car club has a 6MT. It's funny because I'm ahead of them in my 7AT =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
[AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
We just had a bad experience with a battery charger/battery backup that
did not work as expected.
We're looking at this right now:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=516011
What we like about this is that it has separate connections for battery
load, and also does automatic battery tests with an alarm output.
Is anyone using something similar that they like?
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part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
pfft! manual gearboxes are awesome! From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Seth Mattinen via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install
I had something equally ridiculous before. I felt like a fool when Cambium support found it. I had turned off the firewall when I installed it, but the install had me reboot and IPTables turned back on. I've started putting forth the effort to figure out what holes need to be opened up on things instead of just turning it off. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:56:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install LOL Sure enough, didn’t think about CentOS, and default iptables. I’m more of a Gentoo guy… Did a #iptables –F and it came right up Thanks! Justin From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install New CentOS server? $50 says it is a firewall. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 10:45 AM, Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The firewall is definitely open, same IP I’ve used for CNS server in the past. I disabled SELinux. With setenable 0, and disabled in the /etc/selinux/config file… But now that you mention it, I can’t telnet to anything except port 22, however netstat shows it listening on 80/443 Wondering why I can’t telnet to port 80….And I’m trying from another box from inside the same subnet, no Firewall involved. [root@cnss logs]# netstat -ano Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State Timer tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:443 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48692 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.13/0/0) tcp 0 0 10.192.172.113:22 10.192.172.114:53539 ESTABLISHED keepalive (3954.62/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48695 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.17/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48700 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.24/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48693 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.14/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48694 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.15/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48699 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.23/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48696 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.18/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48691 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.04/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48697 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.20/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48698 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.21/0/0) and when I manually try and restart Apache I get: [root@cnss logs]# /etc/init.d/lappstackApache restart [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.272177 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module php5_module is already loaded, skipping [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.284824 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module php5_module is already loaded, skipping [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.284875 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module rewrite_module is already loaded, skipping AH00548: NameVirtualHost has no effect and will be removed in the next release /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf:557 Syntax OK From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install Also turn down Selinux Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 9:57 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you open the firewall? Do a netstat to see if it is running and telnet to see if you can connect to the ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 9:52 AM, Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hi, Trying to do an install of CNS Server on CentOS 6.6(x86_64). Accepted all the defaults as far as postgres username/port. When i try and login through http/https, no page loads. Doing a #ps -ax shows something up with postgres i believe. 2060 ? Ss 0:04 /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/bin/httpd -f /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf 2061 ? S 0:00 /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/bin/httpd -f /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf 2062 ? S 0:00 /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/bin/httpd -f /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf 2063 ? S 0:00 /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/bin/httpd -f /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf 2064 ? S 0:00 /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/bin/httpd -f /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf 2065 ? S 0:00 /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/bin/httpd -f /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf 6248 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/anacron -s 6399
Re: [AFMUG] Licensed Links / Air fiber - 4 Sale
How the hell do we make an offer offlist when we can't see your real email address? I am scl at taosnet.com hit me up please. Sam On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hey guys- We have the following not in use and taking up shelf or tower space. Make offer off list if interested. 1.Used – UBNT Air fiber 24Ghz link Complete 2.Trango AD11G-2-S2 (2 full complete links) Note: The Trango’s have never been used, but have been on the towers exposed to the weather. The Air fiber actually did everything we needed so we had opted not to use the Trango’s. *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* http://www.surfici.net [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
I used to have to push start my car back 40 years ago. I used to insist on manual for that reason. Not so much any more. I am lazy. -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff pfft! manual gearboxes are awesome! From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Seth Mattinen via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming
more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that
don't know how to drive a stick any more.
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bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
We got a few of the Alpha units and were not impressed with them. The web GUI
is IE only and their SNMP implementation is borked.
We just bought an ICT600-24SBC from Tessco the other day for testing, waiting
on it to come in, will let you know how it goes.
A bit pricey but if it works as advertised...
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Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107
- Original Message -
From: Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
To: Motorola III af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:22:53 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
We just had a bad experience with a battery charger/battery backup that
did not work as expected.
We're looking at this right now:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=516011
What we like about this is that it has separate connections for battery
load, and also does automatic battery tests with an alarm output.
Is anyone using something similar that they like?
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bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
Have you looked at the Traco chargers and power supplies?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We just had a bad experience with a battery charger/battery backup that
did not work as expected.
We're looking at this right now:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=516011
What we like about this is that it has separate connections for battery
load, and also does automatic battery tests with an alarm output.
Is anyone using something similar that they like?
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bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install
What's really stupid is that the install doesn't add the firewall rules... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I had something equally ridiculous before. I felt like a fool when Cambium support found it. I had turned off the firewall when I installed it, but the install had me reboot and IPTables turned back on. I've started putting forth the effort to figure out what holes need to be opened up on things instead of just turning it off. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:56:46 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install LOL Sure enough, didn’t think about CentOS, and default iptables. I’m more of a Gentoo guy… Did a #iptables –F and it came right up Thanks! Justin *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install New CentOS server? $50 says it is a firewall. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 10:45 AM, Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The firewall is definitely open, same IP I’ve used for CNS server in the past. I disabled SELinux. With setenable 0, and disabled in the /etc/selinux/config file… But now that you mention it, I can’t telnet to anything except port 22, however netstat shows it listening on 80/443 Wondering why I can’t telnet to port 80….And I’m trying from another box from inside the same subnet, no Firewall involved. [root@cnss logs]# netstat -ano Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State Timer tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:443 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48692 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.13/0/0) tcp0 0 10.192.172.113:22 10.192.172.114:53539 ESTABLISHED keepalive (3954.62/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48695 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.17/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48700 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.24/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48693 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.14/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48694 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.15/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48699 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.23/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48696 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.18/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48691 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.04/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48697 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.20/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48698 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.21/0/0) and when I manually try and restart Apache I get: [root@cnss logs]# /etc/init.d/lappstackApache restart [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.272177 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module php5_module is already loaded, skipping [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.284824 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module php5_module is already loaded, skipping [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.284875 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module rewrite_module is already loaded, skipping AH00548: NameVirtualHost has no effect and will be removed in the next release /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf:557 Syntax OK *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:58 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install Also turn down Selinux Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 9:57 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you open the firewall? Do a netstat to see if it is running and telnet to see if you can connect to the ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 9:52 AM, Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hi, Trying to do an install of CNS Server on CentOS 6.6(x86_64). Accepted all the defaults
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
We got a PCN in the next county from us for ATT that included ALL of the 6, 11
and 18 channels. Government installation. The 14 foot high barbed wired
fences have signs saying FEMA. Yea, right “FEMA” nudge-nudge wink-wink.
For fun I was trying to look up what is actually licensed there. Can anyone
get the geo search working at the FCC ULS site? I can’t get it to find any
links anywhere. What am I doing wrong?
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchGeographic.jsp
PC
Blaze Broadband
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
I was floored a couple years ago when I got a PCN with 18 links at one of our
POPs by Clearwire. It was a smattering of 6, 11, 18, and 23 GHz.
None of it was ever built.
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bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 5:16 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote:
The squatting by the HFT guys is really ticking me off at the moment. I need
an additional link on a path and can’t find any working channels in 11Ghz.
I’m going to have to replace the existing 11Ghz link with 2 18Ghz links instead
of adding a polarization to the existing 11Ghz. It doubles the cost for a
path that the HFT guys have been sitting on for at least 2 years.
Mark
On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe he’s assuming in a few years quantum entanglement or faster-then-light
neutrinos will make them obsolete?
I see more PCNs than physical links. Abusing the system to call dibs on towers
and frequencies. Most of the PCNs I see are actually renewals, that way they
can tie up the coordinated path without starting the construction deadline
clock ticking.
From: Jon Langeler via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
What happens in a few years?
-Jon
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:11 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the same
county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all to a PCN
folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with one
of your licenses.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it is
not your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the federal
government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things,
some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see
if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the
applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. --
IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Oh I like to drive...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCULQREBnik
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know
how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Where are you looking at?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:42:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
We got a PCN in the next county from us for ATT that included ALL of the 6, 11
and 18 channels. Government installation. The 14 foot high barbed wired fences
have signs saying FEMA. Yea, right “FEMA” nudge-nudge wink-wink.
For fun I was trying to look up what is actually licensed there. Can anyone get
the geo search working at the FCC ULS site? I can’t get it to find any links
anywhere. What am I doing wrong?
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchGeographic.jsp
PC
Blaze Broadband
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
I was floored a couple years ago when I got a PCN with 18 links at one of our
POPs by Clearwire. It was a smattering of 6, 11, 18, and 23 GHz.
None of it was ever built.
-- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 5:16 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote:
The squatting by the HFT guys is really ticking me off at the moment. I need an
additional link on a path and can’t find any working channels in 11Ghz. I’m
going to have to replace the existing 11Ghz link with 2 18Ghz links instead of
adding a polarization to the existing 11Ghz. It doubles the cost for a path
that the HFT guys have been sitting on for at least 2 years.
Mark
blockquote
On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe he’s assuming in a few years quantum entanglement or faster-then-light
neutrinos will make them obsolete?
I see more PCNs than physical links. Abusing the system to call dibs on towers
and frequencies. Most of the PCNs I see are actually renewals, that way they
can tie up the coordinated path without starting the construction deadline
clock ticking.
From: Jon Langeler via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
What happens in a few years?
-Jon
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:11 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
blockquote
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the same
county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all to a PCN
folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with one
of your licenses.
-- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
blockquote
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it is not
your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the federal
government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things,
some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see
if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the
applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. --
IBM maintenance manual, 1925
/blockquote
/blockquote
/blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install
Agreed. Installs should auto-install dependencies via that distribution's package system, set SELinux and firewall rules appropriately. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:42:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install What's really stupid is that the install doesn't add the firewall rules... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I had something equally ridiculous before. I felt like a fool when Cambium support found it. I had turned off the firewall when I installed it, but the install had me reboot and IPTables turned back on. I've started putting forth the effort to figure out what holes need to be opened up on things instead of just turning it off. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:56:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install LOL Sure enough, didn’t think about CentOS, and default iptables. I’m more of a Gentoo guy… Did a #iptables –F and it came right up Thanks! Justin From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install New CentOS server? $50 says it is a firewall. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 10:45 AM, Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The firewall is definitely open, same IP I’ve used for CNS server in the past. I disabled SELinux. With setenable 0, and disabled in the /etc/selinux/config file… But now that you mention it, I can’t telnet to anything except port 22, however netstat shows it listening on 80/443 Wondering why I can’t telnet to port 80….And I’m trying from another box from inside the same subnet, no Firewall involved. [root@cnss logs]# netstat -ano Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State Timer tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:443 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48692 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.13/0/0) tcp 0 0 10.192.172.113:22 10.192.172.114:53539 ESTABLISHED keepalive (3954.62/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48695 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.17/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48700 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.24/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48693 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.14/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48694 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.15/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48699 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.23/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48696 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.18/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48691 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.04/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48697 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.20/0/0) tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48698 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.21/0/0) and when I manually try and restart Apache I get: [root@cnss logs]# /etc/init.d/lappstackApache restart [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.272177 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module php5_module is already loaded, skipping [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.284824 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module php5_module is already loaded, skipping [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.284875 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module rewrite_module is already loaded, skipping AH00548: NameVirtualHost has no effect and will be removed in the next release /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf:557 Syntax OK From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install Also turn down Selinux Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 9:57 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you open the firewall? Do a netstat to see if it is running and telnet to see if you can connect to the ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 9:52 AM, Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hi, Trying to do an install of CNS Server on CentOS 6.6(x86_64). Accepted all the defaults as far as postgres username/port. When i try and login through http/https, no page loads. Doing a #ps -ax shows something up with postgres i believe. 2060 ? Ss
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
I just put one of these together, seems to be what you're after. It
provides juice so it works for me.
ACDC battery charger
Meanwell AD-155B
Meanwell DRL-02
Meanwell DRP-03
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Have you looked at the Traco chargers and power supplies?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We just had a bad experience with a battery charger/battery backup that
did not work as expected.
We're looking at this right now:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=516011
What we like about this is that it has separate connections for battery
load, and also does automatic battery tests with an alarm output.
Is anyone using something similar that they like?
--
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Have you noticed that while stopped at lights the drivers are holding up their
cell phones. Cell phone cameras should be watching the stop lights. When the
light turns green the phone can beep to tell the driver it is time to start
thinking about finishing that text and begin to mentally prepare to drive
again. Saves me from having to blast my horn behind them.
For the record, the yellow before green is a fabulous feature. Add that to my
wish list with the traffic circles. The US is so far behind on this stuff.
PC
Blaze Broadband
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to
people that
love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective
every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know how to
drive a stick
any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
They use them in Bangkok, it's...interesting. Countdown to green really does make everyone launch quickly, but it's cool because you don't have some dummy just sitting there spaced out that doesn't know the light changed. It could work here, I got to like it after a bit. It was the least terrifying thing about driving around that city. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:14:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
I didn't used to understand why anyone would want to drive a stick... seemed
like it was just a lot of extra hassle. but I figured I should get one and find
out for myself... now I hate driving automatics.
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming
more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that
don't know how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been
manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know
how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes, how do they
compare in the involvement with the driving experience?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been
manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to
people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know how
to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
blockquote
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
blockquote
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because
they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
/blockquote
/blockquote
[AFMUG] WTB PTP650
Suppliers - Does anyone have a PTP650 5.7 Connectorized in stock? WISPs - Does anyone have a PTP650 5.7 Connectorized they would sell me? I have a main link down, running on slower backup, need a radio ASAP. Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My car has
automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving the 6MT of the
identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch and it is generally
sequential, which is probably where that different feel of driving comes in.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes, how do they
compare in the involvement with the driving experience?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
*From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been
manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more
effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know
how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Not at all. The up/down on the stick shift for manu-matic is just weird
and awful. When you're using paddles it's more F1 like.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I've never driven a real paddle shift, but I did have a car with a
manually shiftable automatic, which I'd guess is a somewhat similar
experience... definitely not at all the same as a stick shift, but it does
give you somewhat more of an involved feel than automatic.
The lack of a clutch definitely would make a huge difference.
--
*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [
af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:01 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My car
has automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving the 6MT of
the identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch and it is generally
sequential, which is probably where that different feel of driving comes in.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes, how do
they compare in the involvement with the driving experience?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
*From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been
manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted
to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more
involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming
more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't
know how to drive a stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
because they can't figure out how to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Licensed Links / Air fiber - 4 Sale
Dish size on the Trangos? Or are these just the radios? On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Sam Lambie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: How the hell do we make an offer offlist when we can't see your real email address? I am scl at taosnet.com hit me up please. Sam On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hey guys- We have the following not in use and taking up shelf or tower space. Make offer off list if interested. 1.Used – UBNT Air fiber 24Ghz link Complete 2.Trango AD11G-2-S2 (2 full complete links) Note: The Trango’s have never been used, but have been on the towers exposed to the weather. The Air fiber actually did everything we needed so we had opted not to use the Trango’s. *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* http://www.surfici.net [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
I actually talked to an engineer at Schneider (APC) and they sounded like they
were interested in making something similar to the Alpha Cordex and ICT units
down the road, he said that they probably wouldn't have a product for at least
a year though.
--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Tyler via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:41:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
Cordex PSU:
http://www.alpha.ca/web2/products/standard-systems/dc-power-solutions/item/cordex-psu
ICT that we just ordered, for reference:
http://www.ict-power.com/products/display_digital.php?id=1303
Both units are about $650 to $700 per unit so cost is about the same for either
one.
--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107
- Original Message -
From: Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:09:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
What alfa units you tested?
Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr
On 12/16/14, 12:32 PM, Christopher Tyler via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We got a few of the Alpha units and were not impressed with them. The
web GUI is IE only and their SNMP implementation is borked.
We just bought an ICT600-24SBC from Tessco the other day for testing,
waiting on it to come in, will let you know how it goes.
A bit pricey but if it works as advertised...
--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107
- Original Message -
From: Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
To: Motorola III af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:22:53 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
We just had a bad experience with a battery charger/battery backup that
did not work as expected.
We're looking at this right now:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=516011
What we like about this is that it has separate connections for battery
load, and also does automatic battery tests with an alarm output.
Is anyone using something similar that they like?
--
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Thanks Tim! That one works. I fell for the decoy site. Those Feds are sneaky.
PC
Blaze Broadband
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Try this one:
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/General_Menu_Reports/
You have to put in the frequency range
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
We got a PCN in the next county from us for ATT that included ALL of the 6, 11
and 18 channels. Government installation. The 14 foot high barbed wired
fences have signs saying FEMA. Yea, right “FEMA” nudge-nudge wink-wink.
For fun I was trying to look up what is actually licensed there. Can anyone
get the geo search working at the FCC ULS site? I can’t get it to find any
links anywhere. What am I doing wrong?
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchGeographic.jsp
PC
Blaze Broadband
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
I was floored a couple years ago when I got a PCN with 18 links at one of our
POPs by Clearwire. It was a smattering of 6, 11, 18, and 23 GHz.
None of it was ever built.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 5:16 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote:
The squatting by the HFT guys is really ticking me off at the moment. I need
an additional link on a path and can’t find any working channels in 11Ghz.
I’m going to have to replace the existing 11Ghz link with 2 18Ghz links instead
of adding a polarization to the existing 11Ghz. It doubles the cost for a
path that the HFT guys have been sitting on for at least 2 years.
Mark
On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe he’s assuming in a few years quantum entanglement or faster-then-light
neutrinos will make them obsolete?
I see more PCNs than physical links. Abusing the system to call dibs on towers
and frequencies. Most of the PCNs I see are actually renewals, that way they
can tie up the coordinated path without starting the construction deadline
clock ticking.
From: Jon Langeler via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
What happens in a few years?
-Jon
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:11 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the same
county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all to a PCN
folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with one
of your licenses.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it is
not your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the federal
government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things,
some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see
if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the
applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. --
IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni
Our experience with the 3.65 GHz 450 AP on an omni was underwhelming. About -73 at 1 mile line of site. Matt via Af wrote: Anyone running a 5.8GHZ 450 AP on an Omni antenna? What kind of range are you getting?
Re: [AFMUG] WTB PTP650
Thanks to all for your off-list help. Wave Online had stock and are shipping to me overnight, thank you Ilan. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] WTB PTP650 Suppliers - Does anyone have a PTP650 5.7 Connectorized in stock? WISPs - Does anyone have a PTP650 5.7 Connectorized they would sell me? I have a main link down, running on slower backup, need a radio ASAP. Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)
My chiropractor when I was younger was named Wayne Knauf. His brother’s name was Jack. I always wondered if their parents knew. Pop this in google: Dr. Wayne knauf Alexandria, mn On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com wrote: One day, way back in the dialup days, when people would sign up for an account, they’d have no idea what to use for an email address. So we suggested ‘first name, initial of last name.’ One day, an older gent comes in, signs up. My coworker brings me the form, I start to set it all up. Then I notice the email address. ‘Doug,’ I say, to my older, straight-laced, religious-type co-worker, ‘are you sure about this email address?’ ‘Yes,’ he says. ‘Really?’ says I. ‘Yes, ‘ he says. ‘Don G. That’s his name.’ ‘Look at the form, Doug,’ I urge. ‘Look at it.’ He looks. ‘Don G at ourdomain.com. Looks fine to me,’ he says. ‘Keep looking,’ I say, and I wait. Tick. Tick. Tick. “OH NO! “ and out he races to attempt to catch the man who just signed up for an email address of ‘d...@ourdomain.com’. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Seriously, that would have been very cool. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy via Af Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) That's funny. My wife wanted to name our son Arrow until I made her say that one out loud. Arrow SmithI don't think so. On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My last name is House. When my son was on the way my wife and I were discussing names for him. She suggested Porter. She was serious until I made her say his whole name out loud. Craig From: Ben Wirch via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) I have a Brenda Titsworth as a sub. On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing. There’s no accounting for what people name their kids, though. I worked with a Howard Johnson, a Ronald McDonald, a Rusty Steele, and a Harry Dyke. I went to school with a Jerry Ferry. Oh, and I’ll bet Ben Dover downloads a lot of software from Cambium’s website. From: Craig House via Af Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) And the twins Ben and Ilene Dover From: Jon Bruce via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:19:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Can't forget good old Harry Showerdrain. On 12/13/2014 3:48 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: I heard Cheech use it a movie but not sure where it comes from. Like I.P. Freely. Seymour Butts juvenile stuff. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 1:38 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It took me a moment... From: Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:36 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) My favorite is Chuck U. Farley Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 12:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a customer D. Cline whose credit card was declined. Oh, and note that today 12/13/14 is the last sequential date of the 21st century.
Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)
In school we had a Jack Imhoff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 2:45 PM, Dan Petermann via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My chiropractor when I was younger was named Wayne Knauf. His brother’s name was Jack. I always wondered if their parents knew. Pop this in google: Dr. Wayne knauf Alexandria, mn On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com wrote: One day, way back in the dialup days, when people would sign up for an account, they’d have no idea what to use for an email address. So we suggested ‘first name, initial of last name.’ One day, an older gent comes in, signs up. My coworker brings me the form, I start to set it all up. Then I notice the email address. ‘Doug,’ I say, to my older, straight-laced, religious-type co-worker, ‘are you sure about this email address?’ ‘Yes,’ he says. ‘Really?’ says I. ‘Yes, ‘ he says. ‘Don G. That’s his name.’ ‘Look at the form, Doug,’ I urge. ‘Look at it.’ He looks. ‘Don G at ourdomain.com. Looks fine to me,’ he says. ‘Keep looking,’ I say, and I wait. Tick. Tick. Tick. “OH NO! “ and out he races to attempt to catch the man who just signed up for an email address of ‘d...@ourdomain.com’. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Seriously, that would have been very cool. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:48 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) That's funny. My wife wanted to name our son Arrow until I made her say that one out loud. Arrow SmithI don't think so. On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My last name is House. When my son was on the way my wife and I were discussing names for him. She suggested Porter. She was serious until I made her say his whole name out loud. Craig -- *From: *Ben Wirch via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14:37 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) I have a Brenda Titsworth as a sub. On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing. There’s no accounting for what people name their kids, though. I worked with a Howard Johnson, a Ronald McDonald, a Rusty Steele, and a Harry Dyke. I went to school with a Jerry Ferry. Oh, and I’ll bet Ben Dover downloads a lot of software from Cambium’s website. *From:* Craig House via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) And the twins Ben and Ilene Dover -- *From: *Jon Bruce via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:19:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Can't forget good old Harry Showerdrain. On 12/13/2014 3:48 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: I heard Cheech use it a movie but not sure where it comes from. Like I.P. Freely. Seymour Butts juvenile stuff. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 1:38 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It took me a moment... *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:36 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) My favorite is Chuck U. Farley Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 12:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a customer D. Cline whose credit card was declined. Oh, and note that today 12/13/14 is the last sequential date of the 21st century.
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
I used to love the shift action on my 1992 Prelude SI model with all
wheel steer.
I could corner at 90 and power slide a bit :)
On 12/16/2014 11:12 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Not at all. The up/down on the stick shift for manu-matic is just
weird and awful. When you're using paddles it's more F1 like.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
I've never driven a real paddle shift, but I did have a car with a
manually shiftable automatic, which I'd guess is a somewhat
similar experience... definitely not at all the same as a stick
shift, but it does give you somewhat more of an involved feel than
automatic.
The lack of a clutch definitely would make a huge difference.
*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] on
behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:01 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My
car has automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving
the 6MT of the identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch
and it is generally sequential, which is probably where that
different feel of driving comes in.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes,
how do they compare in the involvement with the driving
experience?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
*From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work
van) have been manual, I miss that quite a bit.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that
is restricted to people that love the driving thing.
Stick shift makes you more involved.
And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft
control. Becoming more effective every day. I'm surprised
by the number of people that don't know how to drive a
stick any more.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody
else drives my car because they can't figure out how
to operate it.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
Phoenix Contact works very well for us. One of the waste water plants took
a lightning hit and lost powerour SCADA system stayed up and started
shutting down equipment that was on generators to prevent overflowthree
hours later power restored...system went back to grid power. All DC
gear on panel
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We just had a bad experience with a battery charger/battery backup that
did not work as expected.
We're looking at this right now:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=516011
What we like about this is that it has separate connections for battery
load, and also does automatic battery tests with an alarm output.
Is anyone using something similar that they like?
--
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
Pretty sure a Traco TSP+BCM is cheaper.
On 12/16/2014 10:22 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
We just had a bad experience with a battery charger/battery backup
that did not work as expected.
We're looking at this right now:
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=516011
What we like about this is that it has separate connections for
battery load, and also does automatic battery tests with an alarm
output.
Is anyone using something similar that they like?
--
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)
We had a Virgil and Johana [last name redacted] come in for dial up service years and years ago. Same situation, they had no idea what they wanted for an email address. They decided to combine their first names and came up with Virghana...Our sales guy almost lost it after he wrote it down on the paper and read it out loud. Oh the good ol dial up days. We actually still have like 4 dial up customers... On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Good Chinese name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_people *From:* Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) One day, way back in the dialup days, when people would sign up for an account, they’d have no idea what to use for an email address. So we suggested ‘first name, initial of last name.’ One day, an older gent comes in, signs up. My coworker brings me the form, I start to set it all up. Then I notice the email address. ‘Doug,’ I say, to my older, straight-laced, religious-type co-worker, ‘are you sure about this email address?’ ‘Yes,’ he says. ‘Really?’ says I. ‘Yes, ‘ he says. ‘Don G. That’s his name.’ ‘Look at the form, Doug,’ I urge. ‘Look at it.’ He looks. ‘Don G at ourdomain.com. Looks fine to me,’ he says. ‘Keep looking,’ I say, and I wait. Tick. Tick. Tick. “OH NO! “ and out he races to attempt to catch the man who just signed up for an email address of ‘d...@ourdomain.com’. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Seriously, that would have been very cool. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:48 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) That's funny. My wife wanted to name our son Arrow until I made her say that one out loud. Arrow SmithI don't think so. On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My last name is House. When my son was on the way my wife and I were discussing names for him. She suggested Porter. She was serious until I made her say his whole name out loud. Craig -- *From: *Ben Wirch via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14:37 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) I have a Brenda Titsworth as a sub. On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing. There’s no accounting for what people name their kids, though. I worked with a Howard Johnson, a Ronald McDonald, a Rusty Steele, and a Harry Dyke. I went to school with a Jerry Ferry. Oh, and I’ll bet Ben Dover downloads a lot of software from Cambium’s website. *From:* Craig House via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) And the twins Ben and Ilene Dover -- *From: *Jon Bruce via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:19:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Can't forget good old Harry Showerdrain. On 12/13/2014 3:48 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: I heard Cheech use it a movie but not sure where it comes from. Like I.P. Freely. Seymour Butts juvenile stuff. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 1:38 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It took me a moment... *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:36 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) My favorite is Chuck U. Farley Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 12:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a customer D. Cline whose credit card was declined. Oh, and note that today 12/13/14 is the last sequential date of the 21st century.
Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)
We have a few of them left as well. They just won't go away. We have offered free installs even and they won't budge. I can't even imagine using dialup for just email now-a-days. *Shivers* -Ty On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We had a Virgil and Johana [last name redacted] come in for dial up service years and years ago. Same situation, they had no idea what they wanted for an email address. They decided to combine their first names and came up with Virghana...Our sales guy almost lost it after he wrote it down on the paper and read it out loud. Oh the good ol dial up days. We actually still have like 4 dial up customers... On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Good Chinese name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_people *From:* Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) One day, way back in the dialup days, when people would sign up for an account, they’d have no idea what to use for an email address. So we suggested ‘first name, initial of last name.’ One day, an older gent comes in, signs up. My coworker brings me the form, I start to set it all up. Then I notice the email address. ‘Doug,’ I say, to my older, straight-laced, religious-type co-worker, ‘are you sure about this email address?’ ‘Yes,’ he says. ‘Really?’ says I. ‘Yes, ‘ he says. ‘Don G. That’s his name.’ ‘Look at the form, Doug,’ I urge. ‘Look at it.’ He looks. ‘Don G at ourdomain.com. Looks fine to me,’ he says. ‘Keep looking,’ I say, and I wait. Tick. Tick. Tick. “OH NO! “ and out he races to attempt to catch the man who just signed up for an email address of ‘d...@ourdomain.com’. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Seriously, that would have been very cool. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:48 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) That's funny. My wife wanted to name our son Arrow until I made her say that one out loud. Arrow SmithI don't think so. On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My last name is House. When my son was on the way my wife and I were discussing names for him. She suggested Porter. She was serious until I made her say his whole name out loud. Craig -- *From: *Ben Wirch via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14:37 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) I have a Brenda Titsworth as a sub. On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing. There’s no accounting for what people name their kids, though. I worked with a Howard Johnson, a Ronald McDonald, a Rusty Steele, and a Harry Dyke. I went to school with a Jerry Ferry. Oh, and I’ll bet Ben Dover downloads a lot of software from Cambium’s website. *From:* Craig House via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) And the twins Ben and Ilene Dover -- *From: *Jon Bruce via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:19:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Can't forget good old Harry Showerdrain. On 12/13/2014 3:48 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: I heard Cheech use it a movie but not sure where it comes from. Like I.P. Freely. Seymour Butts juvenile stuff. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 1:38 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It took me a moment... *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:36 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) My favorite is Chuck U. Farley Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 12:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a customer D. Cline whose credit card was declined. Oh, and note that today 12/13/14 is the last sequential date of the 21st century.
Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)
We had an older lady named Patricia that got married. She wanted to change her E-mail address to reflect her new last name of Burns…. Yep, pburns is what she wanted.. She called back a few weeks later and changed it. We finally forced all of our dialup users to a 256k/256k dsl service for the same price as they were paying for the dialup. We still have 4-5 grandfathered on the tier today. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) We have a few of them left as well. They just won't go away. We have offered free installs even and they won't budge. I can't even imagine using dialup for just email now-a-days. *Shivers* -Ty On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We had a Virgil and Johana [last name redacted] come in for dial up service years and years ago. Same situation, they had no idea what they wanted for an email address. They decided to combine their first names and came up with Virghana...Our sales guy almost lost it after he wrote it down on the paper and read it out loud. Oh the good ol dial up days. We actually still have like 4 dial up customers... On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Good Chinese name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_people From: Shayne Lebrun via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:11 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) One day, way back in the dialup days, when people would sign up for an account, they’d have no idea what to use for an email address. So we suggested ‘first name, initial of last name.’ One day, an older gent comes in, signs up. My coworker brings me the form, I start to set it all up. Then I notice the email address. ‘Doug,’ I say, to my older, straight-laced, religious-type co-worker, ‘are you sure about this email address?’ ‘Yes,’ he says. ‘Really?’ says I. ‘Yes, ‘ he says. ‘Don G. That’s his name.’ ‘Look at the form, Doug,’ I urge. ‘Look at it.’ He looks. ‘Don G at ourdomain.com http://ourdomain.com . Looks fine to me,’ he says. ‘Keep looking,’ I say, and I wait. Tick. Tick. Tick. “OH NO! “ and out he races to attempt to catch the man who just signed up for an email address of ‘d...@ourdomain.com mailto:d...@ourdomain.com ’. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:59 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Seriously, that would have been very cool. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy via Af Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:48 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) That's funny. My wife wanted to name our son Arrow until I made her say that one out loud. Arrow SmithI don't think so. On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: My last name is House. When my son was on the way my wife and I were discussing names for him. She suggested Porter. She was serious until I made her say his whole name out loud. Craig _ From: Ben Wirch via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) I have a Brenda Titsworth as a sub. On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing. There’s no accounting for what people name their kids, though. I worked with a Howard Johnson, a Ronald McDonald, a Rusty Steele, and a Harry Dyke. I went to school with a Jerry Ferry. Oh, and I’ll bet Ben Dover downloads a lot of software from Cambium’s website. From: Craig House via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) And the twins Ben and Ilene Dover _ From: Jon Bruce via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:19:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Can't forget good old Harry Showerdrain. On 12/13/2014 3:48 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: I heard Cheech use it a movie but not sure where it comes from. Like I.P. Freely. Seymour Butts juvenile stuff. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 1:38 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: It took me a moment... From: Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent:
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
The ICT units look pretty good except that they're 19 rack design. I'm
looking for things that are more compact, and preferably DIN rail mount.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:32 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote:
We got a few of the Alpha units and were not impressed with them. The web GUI
is IE only and their SNMP implementation is borked.
We just bought an ICT600-24SBC from Tessco the other day for testing, waiting
on it to come in, will let you know how it goes.
A bit pricey but if it works as advertised...
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
Alpha
Sent from a Apple Newton
On Dec 16, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
The ICT units look pretty good except that they're 19 rack design. I'm
looking for things that are more compact, and preferably DIN rail mount.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 8:32 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote:
We got a few of the Alpha units and were not impressed with them. The web
GUI is IE only and their SNMP implementation is borked.
We just bought an ICT600-24SBC from Tessco the other day for testing,
waiting on it to come in, will let you know how it goes.
A bit pricey but if it works as advertised...
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
I like the Cordex better because of the DIN mount. Both of these are
much larger than what we need in several places. Some of the sites we
need only about 20 watts; so something in less than 100 watt capability
would be ideal.
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bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 9:41 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote:
Cordex PSU:
http://www.alpha.ca/web2/products/standard-systems/dc-power-solutions/item/cordex-psu
ICT that we just ordered, for reference:
http://www.ict-power.com/products/display_digital.php?id=1303
Both units are about $650 to $700 per unit so cost is about the same for either
one.
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
I would argue that 155mm artillery with proximity fuses with create enough heat/pressure to level most structures and individuals, and excalibur rounds can take out those pesky customers in-between two good ones :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/16/2014 05:45 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: Why armor piercing, why not high explosive(HE) rounds? You're average customer is not likely to have any armored vehicles. HE would take out a house or building much more efficiently than depleted uranium rounds.
Re: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni
I'm not sure if what brand of omni we used. Are those longer customers on dishes? Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote: On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Our experience with the 3.65 GHz 450 AP on an omni was underwhelming. About -73 at 1 mile line of site. The KP Omni on 3.65 / 450 is actually working quite well for us: Take a look at 0a-00-3e-40-41-27 at -64dB 8X/6X at 3.2 miles. We are probably going to replace the omni shortly due to the fact that we have 56 customers on this AP. It’s a bit much, and I didn’t realize it was that high. Mark
Re: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni
No. You lose a lot of gain/isolation with the omni. We found that bare
SM works OK out to about a mile. Farther than that we needed to
dish. We've got a couple of subs at ~~ 1.2 miles that are bare, but are
also only 8X/4X. Putting a dish on those puppies should bump them up to
8X/8X. More efficient.
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On 12/16/2014 4:31 PM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote:
Is that with a bare sm?
Bill Prince via Af wrote:
Interesting. We put a 2.4 GHz 450 on an omni, and we're getting -62
at 1.8 miles not to mention 8X/8X operation).
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bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 11:40 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote:
Our experience with the 3.65 GHz 450 AP on an omni was
underwhelming. About -73 at 1 mile line of site.
Matt via Af wrote:
Anyone running a 5.8GHZ 450 AP on an Omni antenna? What kind of range
are you getting?
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
What freqs? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/16/2014 04:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
71-76/81-86 Ghz FDD Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX What freqs? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 12/16/2014 04:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
What kind of range does that yield in the Midwest? Mile? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 16, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: 71-76/81-86 Ghz FDD Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.comhttp://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.commailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:40 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX What freqs? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 12/16/2014 04:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.comhttp://www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.commailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.commailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
You've got the pricing wrong. Each end is about $3,000 for the 1200FX but the complete link with POE is as cheap as $6,100 total, not $3k. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Where?? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 9:38 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link… *Peter Kranz *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
I think 2.5 miles is probably the max I would go with this and that with the 2' dish option. But that's the same distance I would not go beyond with an AF24 either. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX What kind of range does that yield in the Midwest? Mile? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 16, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: 71-76/81-86 Ghz FDD Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:40 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX What freqs? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 12/16/2014 04:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
Actual power draw on a 1200TL is less then half of what an AF24 draws. Haven't
hooked an FX up to a DC plant to test the draw as the FX is POE only. Guessing
power draw would be slightly higher on a FX as they TX at 7db while the FX
transmits at 5.
On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
According to the spec sheet, the are 71-76/81-86GHz, FDD.
I wonder what kind of realistic range they might have, and how much power
they consume (50 watts like an AF24/AF5)?
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part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 5:39 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote:
What freqs?
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
On 12/16/2014 04:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material
looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link.
Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni
We are going thru trees...are you ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni
Date: Tue, Dec 16, 2014 6:31 PM
Is that with a bare sm?
Bill Prince via Af wrote:
Interesting. We put a 2.4 GHz 450 on an omni, and we're getting -62 at 1.8
miles not to mention 8X/8X operation).
-- bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/16/2014 11:40 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote:
Our experience with the 3.65 GHz 450 AP on an omni was underwhelming.
About -73 at 1 mile line of site.
Matt via Af wrote:
Anyone running a 5.8GHZ 450 AP on an Omni antenna? What kind of range
are you getting?
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
That's a major plus in my book. Extremely onerous running 50 watts on a
solar site.
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bp
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On 12/16/2014 7:19 PM, Carl Peterson via Af wrote:
Actual power draw on a 1200TL is less then half of what an AF24 draws.
Re: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni
No trees. Trees bad.
Correction. We have one that is 1.78 miles and is going through exactly
ONE evergreen oak tree. Consistently the worse signal quality of all
the subs on this AP. Mostly runs in 8X/4X, and we're getting 32 Mbps
aggregate in a 10 MHz channel.
This one is planned to move about 80' to get better LOS.
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bp
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On 12/16/2014 9:01 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
We are going thru trees...are you ?
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From: Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni
Date: Tue, Dec 16, 2014 6:31 PM
Is that with a bare sm?
Bill Prince via Af wrote:
Interesting. We put a 2.4 GHz 450 on an omni, and we're getting -62
at 1.8 miles not to mention 8X/8X operation).
-- bp
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On 12/16/2014 11:40 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote:
Our experience with the 3.65 GHz 450 AP on an omni was
underwhelming. About -73 at 1 mile line of site.
Matt via Af wrote:
Anyone running a 5.8GHZ 450 AP on an Omni antenna? What kind of range
are you getting?
