Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

belden something or other was the greatest
but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter shit with
its ultrathin foil and brittle copper



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Shireen DC-1021
>
>
> On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>
>> I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for
>> residential installs.  Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and preferably
>> pays out of a box.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

on a serious note, onenote is a godsend, embed excell and you can do alot,
viso support went goodbye though

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Jon Auer  wrote:

> Coming from mediawiki, Confluence has been worth every penny (and we're
> paying way more than the $10/yr tier). And no, it's not in some third party
> cloud. Our server in our datacenter...
> The user-friendliness means we have more staff participation in
> documentation.
> The calendar and Gliffy (network diagramming) plugins are pretty great too.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, No. Confluence costs money, a really solid mediawiki platform is
>> based entirely on BSD/GPL/Apache licensed software.
>>
>> I bite my thumb at thee!  https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/confluence
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>>
>>> Try Confluence over MediaWiki.. It's much easier to use and has an
>>> extensive library of add-ons that will make your life mo' easier.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Install a full instance of mediawiki on a LAMP type server, learn how
 to use it (it's really easy, and has great documentation), and create a
 template for each of your POPs...

 Documentation and management should also include IP address tracking
 and provisioning with a shared intranet type tool, such as a VM instance
 running NIPAP:

 http://spritelink.github.io/NIPAP/

 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Hey guys and gals,
>
> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd
> ask y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>
> -we have our network mapped in visio
> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
> -we have our network graphed in cacti
> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has
> some static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and 
> some
> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>
> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other 
> pages
> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>
> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.
> When i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they
> seem to be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>
> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep
> track of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>

>>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

powercode does most of what you want, unless you want it to always work the
way you expect. There is zero way to keep up clean documentation in
powercode on a per device scale but most of your initial list is somewhat
covered, unless you have one probe mess up, then the whole thing randomly
quits. Nobody in the company has a good grasp of what happens in the back
end (learn the history of the sytem as a whole, youll understand why, no
documentation on the core programming and a cleanup, and they lost their
greatest asset to start up a competitor (I assume due to the nonsense you
will soon learn to love/hate)

no one in the company currently has a broad grasp of the backend, multiple
people have a strong grasp of their forte

for the price, powercode is freaking awesome for what it does. its not the
ubnt of the hybrid nms/crm, but its close

dont even turn on the inventory joke they play on customers, its a module
worth conserving server resources over... but hey, its on the roadmap, lol

it is a good system though if you accept it for what it is and learn to
deal with stuff just breaking

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> we are currently moving to powercode and i know that it will do that for
> the APs but what about all the other stuff:
>
> Routers
> backhauls
> Switches
> CTM (and other sync devices)
> UPSs
> solar charge controllers
> generator controllers
> environmental controllers
> servers
> web cams
> backup NAS
> MDU - UniFi
> MDU - VDSL
> remote reboot devices
>
> i'm probably forgetting a few others.
>
> -sean
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Powercode and then APs have a standard frequency layout and backhauls we
>> figure out.  Someone made a nice spreadsheet for 5 GHz stuff, I'm fond of
>> it.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2016 6:20 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys and gals,
>>>
>>> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
>>> y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
>>> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>>>
>>> -we have our network mapped in visio
>>> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
>>> -we have our network graphed in cacti
>>> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
>>> static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
>>> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
>>> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>>>
>>> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
>>> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages
>>> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>>>
>>> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.
>>> When i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they
>>> seem to be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
>>> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>>>
>>> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track
>>> of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

seriously, if you have the budget, look at Castlerock SNMPc but
only if you have the budget... did I mention budget? if you dont have the
budget dont look at it. If you want what you want,  but also have the
budget, then look at it otherwise, dont look at it

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> I share your sentiment and painand there is a lot you are leaving out
> ...related to keeping track of other bits of related information, keeping
> it updated on a regular basis
>
> after trying lots of things... we are getting ready to pull the trigger on
> this...
>
> https://www.i-doit.com/en/
>
> It's a German Company... but the product is very interesting, very
> flexible, and may get you thinking on a few other section of the business,
> how you keep info, organize info etc.
>
> Do keep us posted on what you end up with.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Sean Heskett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:20:09 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/
> documentationsystem
>
> Hey guys and gals,
> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
> y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>
> -we have our network mapped in visio
> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
> -we have our network graphed in cacti
> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
> static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>
> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages
> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>
> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.  When
> i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they seem to
> be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>
> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track
> of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Sean
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

[George Skorup]

Shireen DC-1021

On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for 
residential installs.  Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and 
preferably pays out of a box.

Re: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

[Rory Conaway]

+1

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

I've used these in the past:

http://www.digital-loggers.com/epcr5.html

Worked as expected.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
> wrote:
We are in need of something that we can log into via IP address and reset the 
120 volt power to a piece of equipment from time to time. I doubt I am the 
first person to need to do this so I figured I would ask you guys for options. 
Preferably it would be something clean plug it into 120 volt wall plug, then 
the equipment’s plug into it. An Ethernet cable from the router and good to go. 
If such a thing exists.


Best regards,
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

[Jason McKemie]

I'm a fan of this stuff:

http://www.balticnetworks.com/outdoor-cat5e-shielded-cmx-black-cable.html

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for
> residential installs.  Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and preferably
> pays out of a box.
>

[AFMUG] residential cable preferences

[Jay Weekley]

I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for 
residential installs.  Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and 
preferably pays out of a box.

Re: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

[Jason McKemie]

I've used these in the past:

http://www.digital-loggers.com/epcr5.html

Worked as expected.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> We are in need of something that we can log into via IP address and reset
> the 120 volt power to a piece of equipment from time to time. I doubt I am
> the first person to need to do this so I figured I would ask you guys for
> options. Preferably it would be something clean plug it into 120 volt wall
> plug, then the equipment’s plug into it. An Ethernet cable from the router
> and good to go. If such a thing exists.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Jon Auer]

Coming from mediawiki, Confluence has been worth every penny (and we're
paying way more than the $10/yr tier). And no, it's not in some third party
cloud. Our server in our datacenter...
The user-friendliness means we have more staff participation in
documentation.
The calendar and Gliffy (network diagramming) plugins are pretty great too.



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Yeah, No. Confluence costs money, a really solid mediawiki platform is
> based entirely on BSD/GPL/Apache licensed software.
>
> I bite my thumb at thee!  https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/confluence
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> Try Confluence over MediaWiki.. It's much easier to use and has an
>> extensive library of add-ons that will make your life mo' easier.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Install a full instance of mediawiki on a LAMP type server, learn how to
>>> use it (it's really easy, and has great documentation), and create a
>>> template for each of your POPs...
>>>
>>> Documentation and management should also include IP address tracking and
>>> provisioning with a shared intranet type tool, such as a VM instance
>>> running NIPAP:
>>>
>>> http://spritelink.github.io/NIPAP/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
 Hey guys and gals,

 I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
 y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
 documentation system for our network infrastructure.

 -we have our network mapped in visio
 -we have our network monitored in intermapper
 -we have our network graphed in cacti
 -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
 static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
 dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
 -the devices all typically have a web config page

 I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
 device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages
 or includes the info on that wiki page etc.

 it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.
 When i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they
 seem to be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
 infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"

 does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep
 track of all this information?  what would you recommend?

 Thanks!

 -Sean




>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

[Ken Hohhof]

I should mention that for 8 outlets in a 1U rackmount form factor, I have used 
APC model number AP7900 at several sites.  Again, it’s not the cheapest 
solution, but I have used these for over 10 years and never a single problem, 
they are very trouble free (which is important – you don’t want your remote 
reboot device actually causing outages or requiring truck rolls because it 
locks up).  You can also use the rackmount ears to wallmount these.  CyberPower 
makes a version that has 2 inputs and acts as an automatic power switch.


From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

If you really just have one outlet to control, I have used this in the past:

http://dataprobe.com/iboot/

Not the cheapest solution, but straightforward and reliable.


From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

We are in need of something that we can log into via IP address and reset the 
120 volt power to a piece of equipment from time to time. I doubt I am the 
first person to need to do this so I figured I would ask you guys for options. 
Preferably it would be something clean plug it into 120 volt wall plug, then 
the equipment’s plug into it. An Ethernet cable from the router and good to go. 
If such a thing exists.

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

[Faisal Imtiaz]

lots of choices.. 

APC Master Switches, 
PacketFulx Site Monitor 
Digital Logger 
I also have some remote reboot switches that can activated via SMS text 
message.. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Brandon Yuchasz" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:08:26 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

> We are in need of something that we can log into via IP address and reset the
> 120 volt power to a piece of equipment from time to time. I doubt I am the
> first person to need to do this so I figured I would ask you guys for options.
> Preferably it would be something clean plug it into 120 volt wall plug, then
> the equipment’s plug into it. An Ethernet cable from the router and good to 
> go.
> If such a thing exists.

> Best regards,

> Brandon Yuchasz

> GogebicRange.net

> www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

[Ken Hohhof]

If you really just have one outlet to control, I have used this in the past:

http://dataprobe.com/iboot/

Not the cheapest solution, but straightforward and reliable.


From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

We are in need of something that we can log into via IP address and reset the 
120 volt power to a piece of equipment from time to time. I doubt I am the 
first person to need to do this so I figured I would ask you guys for options. 
Preferably it would be something clean plug it into 120 volt wall plug, then 
the equipment’s plug into it. An Ethernet cable from the router and good to go. 
If such a thing exists.

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

[George Skorup]

Use the relay in a SiteMonitor base unit to control the coil (12-24vdc) 
on a larger relay that has contacts rated for 120V. What I would do anyway.


On 8/4/2016 10:08 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


We are in need of something that we can log into via IP address and 
reset the 120 volt power to a piece of equipment from time to time. I 
doubt I am the first person to need to do this so I figured I would 
ask you guys for options. Preferably it would be something clean plug 
it into 120 volt wall plug, then the equipment�s plug into it. An 
Ethernet cable from the router and good to go. If such a thing exists.


Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net 

[AFMUG] 120 volt power reset via IP address.

[Brandon Yuchasz]

We are in need of something that we can log into via IP address and reset
the 120 volt power to a piece of equipment from time to time. I doubt I am
the first person to need to do this so I figured I would ask you guys for
options. Preferably it would be something clean plug it into 120 volt wall
plug, then the equipment's plug into it. An Ethernet cable from the router
and good to go. If such a thing exists.

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

  www.gogebicrange.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

[Andreas Wiatowski]

Thanks Eric!

I was actually able to speak directly with an AT today that was provided by 
Industry Canada.  I will keep the information you provided for reference.

They seemed very willing to help solve our issue…especially since they have 
just started deploying.

Cheers,
__
Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
Email  andr...@silowireless.com
19 Sage Court
Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

If you really want to do something like this, here's a copy and paste from my 
notes file. Warning that the fcc_all.db is going to be huge so it's strongly 
recommended to only pull out one or two states of sites at a time.

0. data source is http://reboot.fcc.gov/license-view





a. CSV and pipe delimited text files are linked on right side, along with data 
dictionary and data sample





b. the CSV actual comma delimited text file is rather useless, because of the 
number of entity names and description fields that also contain commas. 
therefore we want to use the pipe delimited file.





c. consult the data dictionary DOC file for a detailed description of all 
columns, this is provided on the license-view FCC ULS page. local copy here. 
[[File:Fcc-license-view-data-dictionary.doc|thumbnail]]





1. download fcc-license-view-data-pipe-delimited-format.zip , this file should 
be about 1.1GB zipped





2. unzip fcc-license-view-data-pipe-delimited-format.zip , the unzipped TXT 
file should be about 11GB





3. you should now have the file fcc_lic_vw_pipe.txt which is delimited using 
pipes





3b. use "pragma table_info(table_name); to see contents of table





4. create empty database with table fccinfo by doing the following:



a. sqliteman



b. create new file as fcc_all.db



c. create table fccdata



d. create 84 columns matching columns in header of fcc_lic_vw_pipe.txt file



example of columns to create for FCC ULS:



sqlite> .fullschema

CREATE TABLE fccdata (

"license_id" INTEGER,

"source_system" TEXT,

"callsign" TEXT,

"facility_id" INTEGER,

"frn" INTEGER,

"lic_name" TEXT,

"common_name" TEXT,

"radio_service_code" TEXT,

"radio_service_desc" TEXT,

"rollup_category_code" TEXT,

"rollup_category_desc" TEXT,

"grant_date" TEXT,

"expired_date" TEXT,

"cancellation_date" TEXT,

"last_action_date" TEXT,

"lic_status_code" TEXT,

"lic_status_desc" TEXT,

"rollup_status_code" TEXT,

"rollup_status_desc" TEXT,

"entity_type_code" TEXT,

"entity_type_desc" TEXT,

"rollup_entity_code" TEXT,

"rollup_entity_desc" TEXT,

"lic_address" TEXT,

"lic_city" TEXT,

"lic_state" TEXT,

"lic_zip_code" INTEGER,

"lic_attention_line" TEXT,

"contact_company" TEXT,

"contact_name" TEXT,

"contact_title" TEXT,

"contact_address1" TEXT,

"contact_address2" TEXT,

"contact_city" TEXT,

"contact_state" TEXT,

"contact_zip" INTEGER,

"contact_country" TEXT,

"contact_phone" TEXT,

"contact_fax" TEXT,

"contact_email" TEXT,

"market_code" TEXT,

"market_desc" TEXT,

"channel_block" TEXT,

"loc_type_code" TEXT,

"loc_type_desc" TEXT,

"loc_city" TEXT,

"loc_county_code" TEXT,

"loc_county_name" TEXT,

"loc_state" TEXT,

"loc_radius_op" TEXT,

"loc_seq_id" TEXT,

"loc_lat_deg" INTEGER,

"loc_lat_min" INTEGER,

"loc_lat_sec" INTEGER,

"loc_lat_dir" TEXT,

"loc_long_deg" INTEGER,

"loc_long_min" INTEGER,

"loc_long_sec" INTEGER,

"loc_long_dir" TEXT,

"hgt_structure" INTEGER,

"asr_num" INTEGER,

"antenna_id" TEXT,

"ant_seq_id" TEXT,

"ant_make" TEXT,

"ant_model" TEXT,

"ant_type_code" TEXT,

"ant_type_desc" TEXT,

"azimuth" INTEGER,

"beamwidth" INTEGER,

"polarization_code" TEXT,

"frequency_id" TEXT,

"freq_seq_id" TEXT,

"freq_class_station_code" TEXT,

"freq_class_station_desc" TEXT,

"power_erp" TEXT,

"power_output" TEXT,

"frequency_assigned" INTEGER,

"frequency_upper_band" INTEGER,

"unit_of_measure" TEXT,

"tolerance" INTEGER,

"emission_id" TEXT,

"emission_seq_id" TEXT,

"emission_code" TEXT,

"ground_elevation" INTEGER

);



e. save empty template database as fcc_template.db



f. keep fcc_template.db with all rows empty to use as a template for future 
imports, do not modify further







4b. if necessary, use sqliteman to edit the columns for the fcc_template.db 
fccdata table, ensuring that numeric-only columns are described as INTEGER







5a. copy the fcc_template.db file with empty 84 columns to new file fcc_all.db





5b. sqlite3 fcc_all.db



a. .headers on

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep... Great show ...I was born too late...

On Aug 4, 2016 6:15 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> Richard Boone would be proud.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 8/4/2016 4:28 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
>> Have Tecate,  Will Travel
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Two Foot 5ghz DP Dishes

[Harold Bledsoe]

IgniteNet 5ghz dishes have a radio mount and hood that is quite "other
vendor" friendly. :-)

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016, 10:14 AM Matt  wrote:

> Anyone out there using the Hana Wireless 2 foot 5ghz dishes?  ARC ones
> are back ordered and looking for alternatives.  Really like the radio
> mount on the ARC dishes though the dishes dent rather easily.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Bill Prince]

Richard Boone would be proud.


bp


On 8/4/2016 4:28 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Have Tecate,  Will Travel 

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Faisal Imtiaz]

I share your sentiment and painand there is a lot you are leaving out 
...related to keeping track of other bits of related information, keeping it 
updated on a regular basis 

after trying lots of things... we are getting ready to pull the trigger on 
this... 

https://www.i-doit.com/en/ 

It's a German Company... but the product is very interesting, very flexible, 
and may get you thinking on a few other section of the business, how you keep 
info, organize info etc. 

Do keep us posted on what you end up with. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Sean Heskett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:20:09 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation
> system

> Hey guys and gals,
> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask y'all
> before i went and created it. I basically need a complete documentation system
> for our network infrastructure.

> -we have our network mapped in visio
> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
> -we have our network graphed in cacti
> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some static
> info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some dynamic info
> (like Tx frequency)
> -the devices all typically have a web config page

> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the device 
> and
> bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages or includes
> the info on that wiki page etc.

> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database. When i
> search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they seem to be
> either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server 
> infrastructure)
> or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"

> does something like this currently exist? what do you use to keep track of all
> this information? what would you recommend?

> Thanks!

> -Sean

Re: [AFMUG] Rio Olympics Traffic

[Ken Hohhof]

I doubt it will affect my area unless NFL, NASCAR and monster trucks are now 
Olympic sports.


From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rio Olympics Traffic

people already stream netflix/hulu/HBO/whatever...they will just be streaming 
the olympics instead of those other things. 

i think traffic will increase slightly but not much.

2 cents

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

  Anyone had any guesses on Olympics traffic impact?  It starts tomorrow and 
after several discussions internally we’re not expecting anything significant 
.. do you think I’m wrong on this?



  As always, I think it’ll really come down to timing and how various countries 
are doing there …   



  Thanks,

  Paul

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Jaime Solorza]

Have Tecate,  Will Travel

On Aug 4, 2016 5:27 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> I will go to Taos to install
>
> On Aug 4, 2016 2:52 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> http://www.ignitenet.com/how-to-buy/
>>
>>
>> Do you want us to buy it and install it for ya too?  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Sam Lambie" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 3:51:17 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?
>>
>> Who sells them?
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Metrolinq
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>
 I am wondering if there is a backhaul in 60ghz for sub 1k on the
 market. I am thinking that this link would go no further than 200 meters
 for building to building style links.
 Is there anything out there like that?

 --
 --
 *Sam Lambie*
 Taosnet Wireless Tech.
 575-758-7598 Office
 www.Taosnet.com 

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Jaime Solorza]

I will go to Taos to install

On Aug 4, 2016 2:52 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> http://www.ignitenet.com/how-to-buy/
>
>
> Do you want us to buy it and install it for ya too?  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Sam Lambie" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 3:51:17 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?
>
> Who sells them?
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Metrolinq
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> I am wondering if there is a backhaul in 60ghz for sub 1k on the market.
>>> I am thinking that this link would go no further than 200 meters for
>>> building to building style links.
>>> Is there anything out there like that?
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Rio Olympics Traffic

[Sean Heskett]

people already stream netflix/hulu/HBO/whatever...they will just be
streaming the olympics instead of those other things.

i think traffic will increase slightly but not much.

2 cents

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

> Anyone had any guesses on Olympics traffic impact?  It starts tomorrow and
> after several discussions internally we’re not expecting anything
> significant .. do you think I’m wrong on this?
>
>
>
> As always, I think it’ll really come down to timing and how various
> countries are doing there …
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Josh Baird]

Cloud?  You can host it on your own server(s) for $10.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> It's not about the $10, it's about the principle of giving up full control
> of your documentation system and internal processes to some third party's
> external cloud/butt hosted platform.
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> Confluence costs $10 for 10 users.. if you can't fork out $10 for a solid
>> piece of software, well..
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, No. Confluence costs money, a really solid mediawiki platform is
>>> based entirely on BSD/GPL/Apache licensed software.
>>>
>>> I bite my thumb at thee!  https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/confluence
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>>>
 Try Confluence over MediaWiki.. It's much easier to use and has an
 extensive library of add-ons that will make your life mo' easier.

 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
 wrote:

> Install a full instance of mediawiki on a LAMP type server, learn how
> to use it (it's really easy, and has great documentation), and create a
> template for each of your POPs...
>
> Documentation and management should also include IP address tracking
> and provisioning with a shared intranet type tool, such as a VM instance
> running NIPAP:
>
> http://spritelink.github.io/NIPAP/
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys and gals,
>>
>> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd
>> ask y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
>> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>>
>> -we have our network mapped in visio
>> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
>> -we have our network graphed in cacti
>> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has
>> some static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and 
>> some
>> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
>> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>>
>> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
>> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other 
>> pages
>> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>>
>> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.
>> When i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they
>> seem to be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and 
>> server
>> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>>
>> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep
>> track of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Eric Kuhnke]

It's not about the $10, it's about the principle of giving up full control
of your documentation system and internal processes to some third party's
external cloud/butt hosted platform.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> Confluence costs $10 for 10 users.. if you can't fork out $10 for a solid
> piece of software, well..
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, No. Confluence costs money, a really solid mediawiki platform is
>> based entirely on BSD/GPL/Apache licensed software.
>>
>> I bite my thumb at thee!  https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/confluence
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>>
>>> Try Confluence over MediaWiki.. It's much easier to use and has an
>>> extensive library of add-ons that will make your life mo' easier.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Install a full instance of mediawiki on a LAMP type server, learn how
 to use it (it's really easy, and has great documentation), and create a
 template for each of your POPs...

 Documentation and management should also include IP address tracking
 and provisioning with a shared intranet type tool, such as a VM instance
 running NIPAP:

 http://spritelink.github.io/NIPAP/

 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Hey guys and gals,
>
> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd
> ask y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>
> -we have our network mapped in visio
> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
> -we have our network graphed in cacti
> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has
> some static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and 
> some
> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>
> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other 
> pages
> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>
> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.
> When i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they
> seem to be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>
> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep
> track of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Josh Baird]

Confluence costs $10 for 10 users.. if you can't fork out $10 for a solid
piece of software, well..

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Yeah, No. Confluence costs money, a really solid mediawiki platform is
> based entirely on BSD/GPL/Apache licensed software.
>
> I bite my thumb at thee!  https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/confluence
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> Try Confluence over MediaWiki.. It's much easier to use and has an
>> extensive library of add-ons that will make your life mo' easier.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Install a full instance of mediawiki on a LAMP type server, learn how to
>>> use it (it's really easy, and has great documentation), and create a
>>> template for each of your POPs...
>>>
>>> Documentation and management should also include IP address tracking and
>>> provisioning with a shared intranet type tool, such as a VM instance
>>> running NIPAP:
>>>
>>> http://spritelink.github.io/NIPAP/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
 Hey guys and gals,

 I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
 y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
 documentation system for our network infrastructure.

 -we have our network mapped in visio
 -we have our network monitored in intermapper
 -we have our network graphed in cacti
 -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
 static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
 dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
 -the devices all typically have a web config page

 I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
 device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages
 or includes the info on that wiki page etc.

 it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.
 When i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they
 seem to be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
 infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"

 does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep
 track of all this information?  what would you recommend?

 Thanks!

 -Sean




>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Eric Kuhnke]

Yeah, No. Confluence costs money, a really solid mediawiki platform is
based entirely on BSD/GPL/Apache licensed software.

I bite my thumb at thee!  https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/confluence



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> Try Confluence over MediaWiki.. It's much easier to use and has an
> extensive library of add-ons that will make your life mo' easier.
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>
>> Install a full instance of mediawiki on a LAMP type server, learn how to
>> use it (it's really easy, and has great documentation), and create a
>> template for each of your POPs...
>>
>> Documentation and management should also include IP address tracking and
>> provisioning with a shared intranet type tool, such as a VM instance
>> running NIPAP:
>>
>> http://spritelink.github.io/NIPAP/
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys and gals,
>>>
>>> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
>>> y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
>>> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>>>
>>> -we have our network mapped in visio
>>> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
>>> -we have our network graphed in cacti
>>> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
>>> static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
>>> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
>>> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>>>
>>> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
>>> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages
>>> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>>>
>>> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.
>>> When i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they
>>> seem to be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
>>> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>>>
>>> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track
>>> of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Josh Baird]

Try Confluence over MediaWiki.. It's much easier to use and has an
extensive library of add-ons that will make your life mo' easier.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Install a full instance of mediawiki on a LAMP type server, learn how to
> use it (it's really easy, and has great documentation), and create a
> template for each of your POPs...
>
> Documentation and management should also include IP address tracking and
> provisioning with a shared intranet type tool, such as a VM instance
> running NIPAP:
>
> http://spritelink.github.io/NIPAP/
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys and gals,
>>
>> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
>> y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
>> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>>
>> -we have our network mapped in visio
>> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
>> -we have our network graphed in cacti
>> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
>> static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
>> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
>> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>>
>> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
>> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages
>> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>>
>> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.
>> When i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they
>> seem to be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
>> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>>
>> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track
>> of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Eric Kuhnke]

Install a full instance of mediawiki on a LAMP type server, learn how to
use it (it's really easy, and has great documentation), and create a
template for each of your POPs...

Documentation and management should also include IP address tracking and
provisioning with a shared intranet type tool, such as a VM instance
running NIPAP:

http://spritelink.github.io/NIPAP/

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Hey guys and gals,
>
> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
> y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>
> -we have our network mapped in visio
> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
> -we have our network graphed in cacti
> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
> static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>
> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages
> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>
> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.  When
> i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they seem to
> be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>
> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track
> of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Sean Heskett]

we are currently moving to powercode and i know that it will do that for
the APs but what about all the other stuff:

Routers
backhauls
Switches
CTM (and other sync devices)
UPSs
solar charge controllers
generator controllers
environmental controllers
servers
web cams
backup NAS
MDU - UniFi
MDU - VDSL
remote reboot devices

i'm probably forgetting a few others.

-sean


On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Powercode and then APs have a standard frequency layout and backhauls we
> figure out.  Someone made a nice spreadsheet for 5 GHz stuff, I'm fond of
> it.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 4, 2016 6:20 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys and gals,
>>
>> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
>> y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
>> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>>
>> -we have our network mapped in visio
>> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
>> -we have our network graphed in cacti
>> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
>> static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
>> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
>> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>>
>> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
>> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages
>> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>>
>> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.
>> When i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they
>> seem to be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
>> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>>
>> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track
>> of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentationsystem

[Chuck McCown]

Prism...

(not serious)

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentationsystem

Hey guys and gals, 

I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask y'all 
before i went and created it. I basically need a complete documentation system 
for our network infrastructure.

-we have our network mapped in visio
-we have our network monitored in intermapper
-we have our network graphed in cacti
-i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some static 
info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some dynamic info 
(like Tx frequency)
-the devices all typically have a web config page

I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the device and 
bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages or includes 
the info on that wiki page etc.

it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.  When i 
search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they seem to be 
either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server infrastructure) 
or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"

does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track of all 
this information?  what would you recommend?

Thanks!

-Sean

Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Josh Luthman]

Powercode and then APs have a standard frequency layout and backhauls we
figure out.  Someone made a nice spreadsheet for 5 GHz stuff, I'm fond of
it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 4, 2016 6:20 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

> Hey guys and gals,
>
> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
> y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>
> -we have our network mapped in visio
> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
> -we have our network graphed in cacti
> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
> static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>
> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the
> device and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages
> or includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>
> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.  When
> i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they seem to
> be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>
> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track
> of all this information?  what would you recommend?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Sean Heskett]

Hey guys and gals,

I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask
y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete
documentation system for our network infrastructure.

-we have our network mapped in visio
-we have our network monitored in intermapper
-we have our network graphed in cacti
-i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some
static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some
dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
-the devices all typically have a web config page

I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the device
and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages or
includes the info on that wiki page etc.

it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.  When
i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they seem to
be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server
infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"

does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track of
all this information?  what would you recommend?

Thanks!

-Sean

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Sam Lambie]

Jeez! I was just gonna tell you guys that I found what I was looking for
and that I am a lazy bastard sometimes. thanks for doing the work for me.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> http://www.ignitenet.com/how-to-buy/
>
>
> Do you want us to buy it and install it for ya too?  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Sam Lambie" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 3:51:17 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?
>
> Who sells them?
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Metrolinq
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> I am wondering if there is a backhaul in 60ghz for sub 1k on the market.
>>> I am thinking that this link would go no further than 200 meters for
>>> building to building style links.
>>> Is there anything out there like that?
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Mike Hammett]

http://www.ignitenet.com/how-to-buy/ 


Do you want us to buy it and install it for ya too? ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Sam Lambie"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 3:51:17 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP? 


Who sells them? 



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Metrolinq 





On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Sam Lambie < samtaos...@gmail.com > wrote: 




I am wondering if there is a backhaul in 60ghz for sub 1k on the market. I am 
thinking that this link would go no further than 200 meters for building to 
building style links. 
Is there anything out there like that? 



-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie 
Taosnet Wireless Tech. 
575-758-7598 Office 
www.Taosnet.com 







-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie 
Taosnet Wireless Tech. 
575-758-7598 Office 
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Sam Lambie]

Who sells them?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Metrolinq
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> I am wondering if there is a backhaul in 60ghz for sub 1k on the market.
>> I am thinking that this link would go no further than 200 meters for
>> building to building style links.
>> Is there anything out there like that?
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Mathew Howard]

Metrolinq

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> I am wondering if there is a backhaul in 60ghz for sub 1k on the market. I
> am thinking that this link would go no further than 200 meters for building
> to building style links.
> Is there anything out there like that?
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Two Foot 5ghz DP Dishes

[Mathew Howard]

The new RocketDishes (LW model) are actually exactly the same as the
airFiber X antennas, except they're horizontal/vertical (the feedhorns are
even interchangeable) and the radio holder is slightly different. They're a
good option if you're using them with radios that have RP-SMA connectors,
(like any of the UBNT radios or ePMP), but if you're going to be using
radios with N connectors (like, say, a B5c for example), they're probably
not the best choice.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Brian Sullivan 
wrote:

> If you dont mind dual slant, the UBNT airFiber "X" antennas are nice.
> https://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiberx-antenna/
>
> On 8/4/2016 1:45 PM, Philip Rankin wrote:
>
> Josh, Are the 2 - 2 foot 5ghz dishes you have for sale?
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> I have two in the office, never deployed any.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2016 10:14 AM, "Matt"  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone out there using the Hana Wireless 2 foot 5ghz dishes?  ARC ones
>>> are back ordered and looking for alternatives.  Really like the radio
>>> mount on the ARC dishes though the dishes dent rather easily.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Philip J. Rankin
> Wireless Telecommunications Services
> PO Box 24
> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Mike Hammett]

IgniteNet 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Sam Lambie"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 3:14:05 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP? 



I am wondering if there is a backhaul in 60ghz for sub 1k on the market. I am 
thinking that this link would go no further than 200 meters for building to 
building style links. 
Is there anything out there like that? 



-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie 
Taosnet Wireless Tech. 
575-758-7598 Office 
www.Taosnet.com 

[AFMUG] Cheap 60 ghz PTP?

[Sam Lambie]

I am wondering if there is a backhaul in 60ghz for sub 1k on the market. I
am thinking that this link would go no further than 200 meters for building
to building style links.
Is there anything out there like that?

-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Travis Johnson]

I doubt email will become obsolete any time soon. Everything business 
related is still conducted via email... even if it's just a notification 
that you need to go electronically sign a form on a website. It is still 
the "most critical" piece of the Internet. Don't believe me? Take down 
the Gmail servers for a few hours and see what the top news headline is 
on every news site. LOL


Travis


On 8/4/2016 1:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I wonder about every site requiring an email address as a login, given 
that email is likely to become obsolete.
Perhaps it’s like the federal government requiring vendors to have a 
DUNS number.

*From:* Bill Prince 
*Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

These days I get the impression that people think this is "THE INTERNET".

A lot of people are able to handle a limited amount of abstraction.

bp


On 8/4/2016 12:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
For outdoor advertising purposes (vehicles, signs, etc) I question 
whether enough of the normal non technical population knows about new 
TLDs to recognize them as such...  The sort of people who think THE 
INTERNET is the big round blue E on their Windows desktop.



If you put "johnsoncarpentry.contractors" on the side of a vehicle, 
do people not know it's a domain, or do you have to put 
"www.johnsoncarpentry.contractors" so people will recognize it as a 
domain


or if you put

"johnsoncarpentry.com " on a vehicle 
people will know it's a domain and you don't have to put the "www".



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Seth Mattinen > wrote:


On 8/4/16 12:13, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain,
it's all been
spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I
just find
that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.



I have a customer using .contractors and I also have one that
used to use .biz but not so much lately.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Two Foot 5ghz DP Dishes

[Philip Rankin]

Got it.  I thought you were liquidating them.  Sorry!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> You can buy them from Streakwave I believe but if not I have a bunch of
> dishes for new deployments, I don't mind helping you out.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 4, 2016 2:45 PM, "Philip Rankin"  wrote:
>
>> Josh, Are the 2 - 2 foot 5ghz dishes you have for sale?
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman > > wrote:
>>
>>> I have two in the office, never deployed any.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2016 10:14 AM, "Matt"  wrote:
>>>
 Anyone out there using the Hana Wireless 2 foot 5ghz dishes?  ARC ones
 are back ordered and looking for alternatives.  Really like the radio
 mount on the ARC dishes though the dishes dent rather easily.

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Philip J. Rankin
>> Wireless Telecommunications Services
>> PO Box 24
>> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>>
>


-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Ken Hohhof]

I wonder about every site requiring an email address as a login, given that 
email is likely to become obsolete.
Perhaps it’s like the federal government requiring vendors to have a DUNS 
number.


From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

These days I get the impression that people think this  is "THE INTERNET".

A lot of people are able to handle a limited amount of abstraction.



bp


On 8/4/2016 12:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

  For outdoor advertising purposes (vehicles, signs, etc) I question whether 
enough of the normal non technical population knows about new TLDs to recognize 
them as such...  The sort of people who think THE INTERNET is the big round 
blue E on their Windows desktop.



  If you put "johnsoncarpentry.contractors" on the side of a vehicle, do people 
not know it's a domain, or do you have to put 
"www.johnsoncarpentry.contractors" so people will recognize it as a domain


  or if you put 


  "johnsoncarpentry.com" on a vehicle people will know it's a domain and you 
don't have to put the "www".




  On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

On 8/4/16 12:13, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

  First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all been
  spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just find
  that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.



I have a customer using .contractors and I also have one that used to use 
.biz but not so much lately.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Ken Hohhof]

Anybody else remember Smokey Stover?
Notary sojac.  Foo.  Nix nix.

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:27 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer? 


There are also .foo and .bar

I am not making this up.


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

total.bs is already taken

-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

Oh crap (hope this is not redundant), but the the Bahamas is .bs.

So it's a done deal. I'm moving there so that life will actually make 
sense.


.bs here I come!


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

Just get it over with and make a .bs


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all 
been spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I 
just find that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

its the offset thats a pita

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Again. What George said.
>
> Anyone with a drill, a hack saw, some nuts & bolts, and 5 minutes can fab
> a DIN rail mount to a 19" rack.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/3/2016 4:28 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>
> rackmount.com, same thing. Expensive yes, but I haven't found anything
> better.
>
> Until Forrest gets the rack mount version done, I'm just going to be
> mounting things on a piece of rail bolted to a blank panel. Where it will
> work anyway. Plan is to use the RM version anywhere I have a rack or rack
> enclosure. Outdoor enclosures or wall space will get the 12-port DIN
> version.
>
> On 8/3/2016 6:05 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> The StarTech is *much* more flimsy compared to the ones that Ken posted,
> but they are also much cheaper.  I much prefer the ones from
> ianenclosures.com.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Not better but different:
>>
>> http://www.iaenclosures.com/IAE2015/DIN-Rail-and-
>> Rackmount-Accessories-Product-Selection-Guide/index.html
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Matt
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 5:41 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.
>>
>>
>> We have been using these to rack mount SyncInjectors etc.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OCRW0W/
>>
>> Anyone found any better options?
>>
>>
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Two Foot 5ghz DP Dishes

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

we use the radiowaved HP ones, theyre nice, hand fine adjustments and
skirted shields with rf absorber. Theyre just bulky

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Brian Sullivan 
wrote:

> If you dont mind dual slant, the UBNT airFiber "X" antennas are nice.
> https://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiberx-antenna/
>
> On 8/4/2016 1:45 PM, Philip Rankin wrote:
>
> Josh, Are the 2 - 2 foot 5ghz dishes you have for sale?
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> I have two in the office, never deployed any.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2016 10:14 AM, "Matt"  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone out there using the Hana Wireless 2 foot 5ghz dishes?  ARC ones
>>> are back ordered and looking for alternatives.  Really like the radio
>>> mount on the ARC dishes though the dishes dent rather easily.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Philip J. Rankin
> Wireless Telecommunications Services
> PO Box 24
> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Chuck McCown]

 that

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

These days I get the impression that people think this  is "THE INTERNET".

A lot of people are able to handle a limited amount of abstraction.



bp


On 8/4/2016 12:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

  For outdoor advertising purposes (vehicles, signs, etc) I question whether 
enough of the normal non technical population knows about new TLDs to recognize 
them as such...  The sort of people who think THE INTERNET is the big round 
blue E on their Windows desktop.



  If you put "johnsoncarpentry.contractors" on the side of a vehicle, do people 
not know it's a domain, or do you have to put 
"www.johnsoncarpentry.contractors" so people will recognize it as a domain


  or if you put 


  "johnsoncarpentry.com" on a vehicle people will know it's a domain and you 
don't have to put the "www".




  On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

On 8/4/16 12:13, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

  First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all been
  spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just find
  that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.



I have a customer using .contractors and I also have one that used to use 
.biz but not so much lately.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Two Foot 5ghz DP Dishes

[Josh Luthman]

You can buy them from Streakwave I believe but if not I have a bunch of
dishes for new deployments, I don't mind helping you out.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 4, 2016 2:45 PM, "Philip Rankin"  wrote:

> Josh, Are the 2 - 2 foot 5ghz dishes you have for sale?
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> I have two in the office, never deployed any.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2016 10:14 AM, "Matt"  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone out there using the Hana Wireless 2 foot 5ghz dishes?  ARC ones
>>> are back ordered and looking for alternatives.  Really like the radio
>>> mount on the ARC dishes though the dishes dent rather easily.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Philip J. Rankin
> Wireless Telecommunications Services
> PO Box 24
> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Bill Prince]

These days I get the impression that people think this is "THE INTERNET".

A lot of people are able to handle a limited amount of abstraction.


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
For outdoor advertising purposes (vehicles, signs, etc) I question 
whether enough of the normal non technical population knows about new 
TLDs to recognize them as such...  The sort of people who think THE 
INTERNET is the big round blue E on their Windows desktop.



If you put "johnsoncarpentry.contractors" on the side of a vehicle, do 
people not know it's a domain, or do you have to put 
"www.johnsoncarpentry.contractors" so people will recognize it as a domain


or if you put

"johnsoncarpentry.com " on a vehicle 
people will know it's a domain and you don't have to put the "www".




On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Seth Mattinen > wrote:


On 8/4/16 12:13, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's
all been
spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I
just find
that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.



I have a customer using .contractors and I also have one that used
to use .biz but not so much lately.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Eric Kuhnke]

For outdoor advertising purposes (vehicles, signs, etc) I question whether
enough of the normal non technical population knows about new TLDs to
recognize them as such...  The sort of people who think THE INTERNET is the
big round blue E on their Windows desktop.


If you put "johnsoncarpentry.contractors" on the side of a vehicle, do
people not know it's a domain, or do you have to put
"www.johnsoncarpentry.contractors" so people will recognize it as a domain

or if you put

"johnsoncarpentry.com" on a vehicle people will know it's a domain and you
don't have to put the "www".



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 8/4/16 12:13, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
>> First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all been
>> spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just find
>> that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.
>>
>
>
> I have a customer using .contractors and I also have one that used to use
> .biz but not so much lately.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Seth Mattinen]

On 8/4/16 12:13, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all been
spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just find
that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.



I have a customer using .contractors and I also have one that used to 
use .biz but not so much lately.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Bill Prince]

There are also .foo and .bar

I am not making this up.


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

total.bs is already taken

-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

Oh crap (hope this is not redundant), but the the Bahamas is .bs.

So it's a done deal. I'm moving there so that life will actually make 
sense.


.bs here I come!


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

Just get it over with and make a .bs


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all 
been spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I 
just find that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Chuck McCown]

total.bs is already taken

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince

Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

Oh crap (hope this is not redundant), but the the Bahamas is .bs.

So it's a done deal. I'm moving there so that life will actually make sense.

.bs here I come!


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

Just get it over with and make a .bs


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all been 
spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just find 
that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Bill Prince]

Oh crap (hope this is not redundant), but the the Bahamas is .bs.

So it's a done deal. I'm moving there so that life will actually make sense.

.bs here I come!


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

Just get it over with and make a .bs


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all 
been spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I 
just find that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Bill Prince]

Just get it over with and make a .bs


bp


On 8/4/2016 12:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all 
been spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just 
find that all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Eric Kuhnke]

There is a .WTF now, run by the Donuts LLC people who have a ton of the new
TLDs.

https://icannwiki.com/.wtf

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Just get it over with and make a .bs
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/4/2016 12:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
>> First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all been
>> spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just find that
>> all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Chuck McCown]

It would seem to me, that anything could be used as a TLD.  
Just open it up to ANYTHING.  
You pay and you get .@#$!@#$% as a TLD

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

There is a .WTF now, run by the Donuts LLC people who have a ton of the new 
TLDs.

https://icannwiki.com/.wtf


On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  Just get it over with and make a .bs


  bp
   


  On 8/4/2016 12:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all been 
spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just find that all 
the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Chuck McCown]

Hole Crap, Maine has its own domain now?!

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all been spam 
and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just find that all the 
new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.


On Aug 4, 2016 11:20 AM, "Eric Rogers"  wrote:

  Yes,

  Absolutely!!!  It is a rolling billboard you only pay for tags and tires…





  Eric Rogers



   

  www.pdsconnect.me

  (317) 831-3000 x200



  From: fiber-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:fiber-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
can...@believewireless.net
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 3:31 PM
  To: af@afmug.com; WISPA Fiber Discussion
  Subject: [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?



  Debating if it's worth the cost.

Re: [AFMUG] Two Foot 5ghz DP Dishes

[Brian Sullivan]

If you dont mind dual slant, the UBNT airFiber "X" antennas are nice.
https://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiberx-antenna/

On 8/4/2016 1:45 PM, Philip Rankin wrote:

Josh, Are the 2 - 2 foot 5ghz dishes you have for sale?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:


I have two in the office, never deployed any.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Aug 4, 2016 10:14 AM, "Matt" > wrote:

Anyone out there using the Hana Wireless 2 foot 5ghz dishes? 
ARC ones

are back ordered and looking for alternatives. Really like the
radio
mount on the ARC dishes though the dishes dent rather easily.




--
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762

Re: [AFMUG] [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

[Eric Kuhnke]

First time I've seen a legit business using a .me domain, it's all been
spam and porno websites and phishes... No insult intended, I just find that
all the new TLD like .biz and .xyz are full of such.

On Aug 4, 2016 11:20 AM, "Eric Rogers"  wrote:

> Yes,
>
> Absolutely!!!  It is a rolling billboard you only pay for tags and tires…
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric Rogers
>
> [image: PDSConnect_logo-Connecting You to the World - Signature Logo]
>
> www.pdsconnect.me
>
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
>
> *From:* fiber-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:fiber-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *can...@believewireless.net
> *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 3:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com; WISPA Fiber Discussion
> *Subject:* [Fiber] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?
>
>
>
> Debating if it's worth the cost.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Two Foot 5ghz DP Dishes

[Philip Rankin]

Josh, Are the 2 - 2 foot 5ghz dishes you have for sale?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I have two in the office, never deployed any.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 4, 2016 10:14 AM, "Matt"  wrote:
>
>> Anyone out there using the Hana Wireless 2 foot 5ghz dishes?  ARC ones
>> are back ordered and looking for alternatives.  Really like the radio
>> mount on the ARC dishes though the dishes dent rather easily.
>>
>


-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Josh Baird]

These look interesting.. and cheap.  Have you used one?  Any feedback?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> I know that the airconsole guys are supposed to have support for 3G
> USB dongles "soon". I don't know if that means "tomorrow" or "two
> WISPAPALOOZAS" from now :P
>
> www.get-console.com
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:
> > Anybody doing this?  I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that
> I
> > can 'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has
> an
> > integrated modem?
> >
> > Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something
> > used on eBay.
> >
> > Josh
>

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Josh Reynolds]

They're pretty f'king awesome.

Sometimes they disconnect from the cloud server if you use that (I
think it happens if the AP reboots, if you're connecting them via
wifi).

Otherwise, I love them. The larger models have a built in battery and
you can charge your phone with them :P

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
> These look interesting.. and cheap.  Have you used one?  Any feedback?
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> I know that the airconsole guys are supposed to have support for 3G
>> USB dongles "soon". I don't know if that means "tomorrow" or "two
>> WISPAPALOOZAS" from now :P
>>
>> www.get-console.com
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>> > Anybody doing this?  I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that
>> > I
>> > can 'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has
>> > an
>> > integrated modem?
>> >
>> > Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for
>> > something
>> > used on eBay.
>> >
>> > Josh
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Josh Reynolds]

I know that the airconsole guys are supposed to have support for 3G
USB dongles "soon". I don't know if that means "tomorrow" or "two
WISPAPALOOZAS" from now :P

www.get-console.com

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:
> Anybody doing this?  I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that I
> can 'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has an
> integrated modem?
>
> Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something
> used on eBay.
>
> Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Adam Moffett]

Sure it is
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Serial_Port_Usage#Accessing_a_serial_device_directly_by_SSH_.2F_telnet_.2F_mac-telnet


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Baird" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 8/4/2016 11:20:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB 
management


This is cool and everything, but a routerboard is not a console server. 
 :)


I'm thinking it may be cheaper to get a non-cellular model (with 
ethernet) and just get a cheapo OOB AT DSL line or something.


On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

Not Sprint LTE, though.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP





From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:16:23 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB 
management


last time I checked  Baltic has such a device along with data plans...

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for 
OOB management
I'm working on a cellular product that marries a USB dongle on the 
Sprint LTE network to a Routerboard.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP





From: "Josh Baird" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:43:34 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB 
management


Anybody doing this?  I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models 
that I can 'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one 
that has an integrated modem?
Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for 
something used on eBay.


Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

[Eric Kuhnke]

If you really want to do something like this, here's a copy and paste from
my notes file. Warning that the fcc_all.db is going to be huge so it's
strongly recommended to only pull out one or two states of sites at a time.

0. data source is http://reboot.fcc.gov/license-view


a. CSV and pipe delimited text files are linked on right side, along
with data dictionary and data sample


b. the CSV actual comma delimited text file is rather useless, because
of the number of entity names and description fields that also contain
commas. therefore we want to use the pipe delimited file.


c. consult the data dictionary DOC file for a detailed description of
all columns, this is provided on the license-view FCC ULS page. local
copy here. [[File:Fcc-license-view-data-dictionary.doc|thumbnail]]


1. download fcc-license-view-data-pipe-delimited-format.zip , this
file should be about 1.1GB zipped


2. unzip fcc-license-view-data-pipe-delimited-format.zip , the
unzipped TXT file should be about 11GB


3. you should now have the file fcc_lic_vw_pipe.txt which is delimited
using pipes


3b. use "pragma table_info(table_name); to see contents of table


4. create empty database with table fccinfo by doing the following:

a. sqliteman

b. create new file as fcc_all.db

c. create table fccdata

d. create 84 columns matching columns in header of fcc_lic_vw_pipe.txt file

example of columns to create for FCC ULS:

sqlite> .fullschema
CREATE TABLE fccdata (
"license_id" INTEGER,
"source_system" TEXT,
"callsign" TEXT,
"facility_id" INTEGER,
"frn" INTEGER,
"lic_name" TEXT,
"common_name" TEXT,
"radio_service_code" TEXT,
"radio_service_desc" TEXT,
"rollup_category_code" TEXT,
"rollup_category_desc" TEXT,
"grant_date" TEXT,
"expired_date" TEXT,
"cancellation_date" TEXT,
"last_action_date" TEXT,
"lic_status_code" TEXT,
"lic_status_desc" TEXT,
"rollup_status_code" TEXT,
"rollup_status_desc" TEXT,
"entity_type_code" TEXT,
"entity_type_desc" TEXT,
"rollup_entity_code" TEXT,
"rollup_entity_desc" TEXT,
"lic_address" TEXT,
"lic_city" TEXT,
"lic_state" TEXT,
"lic_zip_code" INTEGER,
"lic_attention_line" TEXT,
"contact_company" TEXT,
"contact_name" TEXT,
"contact_title" TEXT,
"contact_address1" TEXT,
"contact_address2" TEXT,
"contact_city" TEXT,
"contact_state" TEXT,
"contact_zip" INTEGER,
"contact_country" TEXT,
"contact_phone" TEXT,
"contact_fax" TEXT,
"contact_email" TEXT,
"market_code" TEXT,
"market_desc" TEXT,
"channel_block" TEXT,
"loc_type_code" TEXT,
"loc_type_desc" TEXT,
"loc_city" TEXT,
"loc_county_code" TEXT,
"loc_county_name" TEXT,
"loc_state" TEXT,
"loc_radius_op" TEXT,
"loc_seq_id" TEXT,
"loc_lat_deg" INTEGER,
"loc_lat_min" INTEGER,
"loc_lat_sec" INTEGER,
"loc_lat_dir" TEXT,
"loc_long_deg" INTEGER,
"loc_long_min" INTEGER,
"loc_long_sec" INTEGER,
"loc_long_dir" TEXT,
"hgt_structure" INTEGER,
"asr_num" INTEGER,
"antenna_id" TEXT,
"ant_seq_id" TEXT,
"ant_make" TEXT,
"ant_model" TEXT,
"ant_type_code" TEXT,
"ant_type_desc" TEXT,
"azimuth" INTEGER,
"beamwidth" INTEGER,
"polarization_code" TEXT,
"frequency_id" TEXT,
"freq_seq_id" TEXT,
"freq_class_station_code" TEXT,
"freq_class_station_desc" TEXT,
"power_erp" TEXT,
"power_output" TEXT,
"frequency_assigned" INTEGER,
"frequency_upper_band" INTEGER,
"unit_of_measure" TEXT,
"tolerance" INTEGER,
"emission_id" TEXT,
"emission_seq_id" TEXT,
"emission_code" TEXT,
"ground_elevation" INTEGER
);

e. save empty template database as fcc_template.db

f. keep fcc_template.db with all rows empty to use as a template for
future imports, do not modify further



4b. if necessary, use sqliteman to edit the columns for the
fcc_template.db fccdata table, ensuring that numeric-only columns are
described as INTEGER



5a. copy the fcc_template.db file with empty 84 columns to new file fcc_all.db


5b. sqlite3 fcc_all.db

a. .headers on
b. .mode csv
c. .separator |
d. .show
e. .import fcc_lic_vw_pipe.txt fccdata
f. this will take CPU usage to 100% on one core and take a rather long
time! the finished fcc_all.db file will be approximately 15GB in size
or larger.
g. .quit

or you can do the above on one line for non-interactive import:

sqlite3 -header -csv -separator '|' fcc_all.db '.import
fcc_lic_vw_pipe.txt fccdata'



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Andreas Wiatowski 
wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is an antenna/frequency database that I can
> search for cellular frequencies and tower locations used…including antenna
> down tilt and azimuth?
>
> I tried looking around the FCC databases but could not find one that gives
> me that kind of information.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
> Silo Wireless Inc.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

[Eric Kuhnke]

The entire FCC Part 101 database and the FCC ULS database are available to
the public as pipe delimited CSV files inside a big .zip file. It's close
to 24GB in size.

I have a cron job that retrieves a complete copy of both and parses them
into an SQL database for local use with a client's internal systems.

There is no column in the ULS database for antenna downtilt. That would be
in the cellular companies' internal documentation. You can certainly
discover locations and tower sites, though of course everything that is too
short to require FAA clearance and an ASR registration won't be in the
database.




On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Andreas Wiatowski 
wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is an antenna/frequency database that I can
> search for cellular frequencies and tower locations used…including antenna
> down tilt and azimuth?
>
> I tried looking around the FCC databases but could not find one that gives
> me that kind of information.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
> Silo Wireless Inc.
> 519-449-5656 x-600
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Eric Kuhnke]

Yeah, I would try to do it as a two piece solution. One very tiny Linux box
with a cellular modem, with an RS232 cable into a 48-port serial console
server that lets you redirect the session to any of the other 47 ports.


On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> It's the harder half of the problem to solve.  ;-) There are a million
> console servers on eBay.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Baird" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:20:49 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for
> OOBmanagement
>
> This is cool and everything, but a routerboard is not a console server.  :)
>
> I'm thinking it may be cheaper to get a non-cellular model (with ethernet)
> and just get a cheapo OOB AT DSL line or something.
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Not Sprint LTE, though.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Faisal Imtiaz" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:16:23 AM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB
>> management
>>
>> last time I checked  Baltic has such a device along with data plans...
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:10:50 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB
>> management
>>
>> I'm working on a cellular product that marries a USB dongle on the Sprint
>> LTE network to a Routerboard.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Baird" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:43:34 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB
>> management
>>
>> Anybody doing this?  I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that
>> I can 'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has
>> an integrated modem?
>> Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something
>> used on eBay.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

[Chuck McCown]

Thanks for the heads up, did not know such creatures existed.  

From: Brian Webster 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

Right but you have to watch out for some of these cards having less than a 
month billing cycle, those are things you want to pay attention to in the terms 
and conditions that Faisil mentions. They get you with things like late fees 
and such and have short billing cycles like 20 or 25 days.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

 

I am one that does not care about APR because I normally pay the full balance 
each month.  

 

From: Faisal Imtiaz 

Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:19 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

 

yes, while you are at it, also check what is their APR rate...

 

Cash back is a wonderful scam to move money from left pocket to right pocket 


(lower interest rates on non-cash back cards, and a good 5-10 points higher on 
so called cash back cards along with the fine print limiting the cash back 
and other interesting terms and conditions).

 

:)

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 




  From: "Jeremy" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:47:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

  Will do!

   

  On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:



  That sounds hard to believe.  Please let us know if it is true. 

   

  From: Jeremy

  Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 8:30 AM

  To: af@afmug.com

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

   

  I had a customer yesterday tell me that their America First business credit 
card puts 5% cash back into their savings account every month.  That is the 
biggest cash back I have ever heard of.  I am a member, so I plan to look into 
this first of next week.

   

  On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:



  But if it was 1% of all the company purchases, the 1% would come back to the 
company, right?  So unless it was for company travel I could get gigged on it 
in theory.  I have the (probably mistaken) belief that burning company miles 
for personal use would probably be a safer way to cheat?

   

  From: Eric Kuhnke

  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:38 PM

  To: af@afmug.com

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

   

  Not relevant to most of the list, but a local credit union that has a card 
with 1% cash back on everything. Paid once a year. I find that if you run 
enough money through it that 1% cash back lets you buy a "better" airline 
ticket using your own money, than something that earns miles which come with 
restrictions.

   

  On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:



  A few months ago we had a pretty good discussion about the best deals for 
credit cards. 

  Today, I am looking for a better deal for company purchases.  I like my 
Capital One Visa that gives good miles.  I use the miles and like to store them 
up for my annual trips to England.

   

  But I figured I may as well start getting either miles or dollars or super 
low interest or something for the company credit card. 

  Anyone have favorites for company use?

   

   

   

[AFMUG] Rio Olympics Traffic

[Paul Stewart]

Anyone had any guesses on Olympics traffic impact?  It starts tomorrow and
after several discussions internally we're not expecting anything
significant .. do you think I'm wrong on this?

 

As always, I think it'll really come down to timing and how various
countries are doing there .   

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

[Brian Webster]

Right but you have to watch out for some of these cards having less than a 
month billing cycle, those are things you want to pay attention to in the terms 
and conditions that Faisil mentions. They get you with things like late fees 
and such and have short billing cycles like 20 or 25 days.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

 

I am one that does not care about APR because I normally pay the full balance 
each month.  

 

From: Faisal Imtiaz   

Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:19 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

 

yes, while you are at it, also check what is their APR rate...

 

Cash back is a wonderful scam to move money from left pocket to right pocket 


(lower interest rates on non-cash back cards, and a good 5-10 points higher on 
so called cash back cards along with the fine print limiting the cash back 
and other interesting terms and conditions).

 

:)

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 

  _  

From: "Jeremy" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:47:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

Will do!

 

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:



That sounds hard to believe.  Please let us know if it is true. 

 

From: Jeremy  

Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 8:30 AM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

 

I had a customer yesterday tell me that their America First business credit 
card puts 5% cash back into their savings account every month.  That is the 
biggest cash back I have ever heard of.  I am a member, so I plan to look into 
this first of next week.

 

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:



But if it was 1% of all the company purchases, the 1% would come back to the 
company, right?  So unless it was for company travel I could get gigged on it 
in theory.  I have the (probably mistaken) belief that burning company miles 
for personal use would probably be a safer way to cheat?

 

From: Eric Kuhnke  

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:38 PM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

 

Not relevant to most of the list, but a local credit union that has a card with 
1% cash back on everything. Paid once a year. I find that if you run enough 
money through it that 1% cash back lets you buy a "better" airline ticket using 
your own money, than something that earns miles which come with restrictions.

 

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:



A few months ago we had a pretty good discussion about the best deals for 
credit cards. 

Today, I am looking for a better deal for company purchases.  I like my Capital 
One Visa that gives good miles.  I use the miles and like to store them up for 
my annual trips to England.

 

But I figured I may as well start getting either miles or dollars or super low 
interest or something for the company credit card. 

Anyone have favorites for company use?

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Josh Baird]

Got a link?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> last time I checked  Baltic has such a device along with data plans...
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:10:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB
> management
>
> I'm working on a cellular product that marries a USB dongle on the Sprint
> LTE network to a Routerboard.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Baird" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:43:34 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB
> management
>
> Anybody doing this?  I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that I
> can 'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has an
> integrated modem?
> Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something
> used on eBay.
>
> Josh
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Mike Hammett]

It's the harder half of the problem to solve. ;-) There are a million console 
servers on eBay. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Baird"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:20:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB 
management 


This is cool and everything, but a routerboard is not a console server. :) 


I'm thinking it may be cheaper to get a non-cellular model (with ethernet) and 
just get a cheapo OOB AT DSL line or something. 


On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Not Sprint LTE, though. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:16:23 AM 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB 
management 



last time I checked Baltic has such a device along with data plans... 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 





From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:10:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB 
management 






I'm working on a cellular product that marries a USB dongle on the Sprint LTE 
network to a Routerboard. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Josh Baird" < joshba...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:43:34 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management 


Anybody doing this? I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that I can 
'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has an 
integrated modem? 

Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something used 
on eBay. 

Josh 

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Josh Baird]

This is cool and everything, but a routerboard is not a console server.  :)

I'm thinking it may be cheaper to get a non-cellular model (with ethernet)
and just get a cheapo OOB AT DSL line or something.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Not Sprint LTE, though.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Faisal Imtiaz" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:16:23 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB
> management
>
> last time I checked  Baltic has such a device along with data plans...
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:10:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB
> management
>
> I'm working on a cellular product that marries a USB dongle on the Sprint
> LTE network to a Routerboard.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Baird" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:43:34 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB
> management
>
> Anybody doing this?  I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that I
> can 'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has an
> integrated modem?
> Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something
> used on eBay.
>
> Josh
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

[Chuck McCown]

I am one that does not care about APR because I normally pay the full balance 
each month.  

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

yes, while you are at it, also check what is their APR rate...

Cash back is a wonderful scam to move money from left pocket to right pocket 

(lower interest rates on non-cash back cards, and a good 5-10 points higher on 
so called cash back cards along with the fine print limiting the cash back 
and other interesting terms and conditions).

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




  From: "Jeremy" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:47:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

  Will do!

  On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

That sounds hard to believe.  Please let us know if it is true. 

From: Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

I had a customer yesterday tell me that their America First business credit 
card puts 5% cash back into their savings account every month.  That is the 
biggest cash back I have ever heard of.  I am a member, so I plan to look into 
this first of next week.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  But if it was 1% of all the company purchases, the 1% would come back to 
the company, right?  So unless it was for company travel I could get gigged on 
it in theory.  I have the (probably mistaken) belief that burning company miles 
for personal use would probably be a safer way to cheat?

  From: Eric Kuhnke
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:38 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

  Not relevant to most of the list, but a local credit union that has a 
card with 1% cash back on everything. Paid once a year. I find that if you run 
enough money through it that 1% cash back lets you buy a "better" airline 
ticket using your own money, than something that earns miles which come with 
restrictions.


  On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

A few months ago we had a pretty good discussion about the best deals 
for credit cards. 
Today, I am looking for a better deal for company purchases.  I like my 
Capital One Visa that gives good miles.  I use the miles and like to store them 
up for my annual trips to England.

But I figured I may as well start getting either miles or dollars or 
super low interest or something for the company credit card. 
Anyone have favorites for company use?

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Mike Hammett]

Not Sprint LTE, though. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Faisal Imtiaz"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:16:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB 
management 



last time I checked Baltic has such a device along with data plans... 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -



From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:10:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB 
management 






I'm working on a cellular product that marries a USB dongle on the Sprint LTE 
network to a Routerboard. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Baird"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:43:34 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management 


Anybody doing this? I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that I can 
'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has an 
integrated modem? 

Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something used 
on eBay. 

Josh 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

[Faisal Imtiaz]

yes, while you are at it, also check what is their APR rate... 

Cash back is a wonderful scam to move money from left pocket to right pocket 
 
(lower interest rates on non-cash back cards, and a good 5-10 points higher on 
so called cash back cards along with the fine print limiting the cash back 
and other interesting terms and conditions). 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Jeremy" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:47:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

> Will do!

> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

>> That sounds hard to believe. Please let us know if it is true.
>> From: Jeremy
>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 8:30 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist
>> I had a customer yesterday tell me that their America First business credit 
>> card
>> puts 5% cash back into their savings account every month. That is the biggest
>> cash back I have ever heard of. I am a member, so I plan to look into this
>> first of next week.
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

>>> But if it was 1% of all the company purchases, the 1% would come back to the
>>> company, right? So unless it was for company travel I could get gigged on 
>>> it in
>>> theory. I have the (probably mistaken) belief that burning company miles for
>>> personal use would probably be a safer way to cheat?
>>> From: Eric Kuhnke
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:38 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist
>>> Not relevant to most of the list, but a local credit union that has a card 
>>> with
>>> 1% cash back on everything. Paid once a year. I find that if you run enough
>>> money through it that 1% cash back lets you buy a "better" airline ticket 
>>> using
>>> your own money, than something that earns miles which come with 
>>> restrictions.
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

 A few months ago we had a pretty good discussion about the best deals for 
 credit
 cards.
 Today, I am looking for a better deal for company purchases. I like my 
 Capital
 One Visa that gives good miles. I use the miles and like to store them up 
 for
 my annual trips to England.
 But I figured I may as well start getting either miles or dollars or super 
 low
 interest or something for the company credit card.
 Anyone have favorites for company use?

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.

[Bill Prince]

Again. What George said.

Anyone with a drill, a hack saw, some nuts & bolts, and 5 minutes can 
fab a DIN rail mount to a 19" rack.



bp


On 8/3/2016 4:28 PM, George Skorup wrote:
rackmount.com, same thing. Expensive yes, but I haven't found anything 
better.


Until Forrest gets the rack mount version done, I'm just going to be 
mounting things on a piece of rail bolted to a blank panel. Where it 
will work anyway. Plan is to use the RM version anywhere I have a rack 
or rack enclosure. Outdoor enclosures or wall space will get the 
12-port DIN version.


On 8/3/2016 6:05 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
The StarTech is *much* more flimsy compared to the ones that Ken 
posted, but they are also much cheaper.  I much prefer the ones from 
ianenclosures.com .


On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ken Hohhof > wrote:


Not better but different:


http://www.iaenclosures.com/IAE2015/DIN-Rail-and-Rackmount-Accessories-Product-Selection-Guide/index.html


-Original Message- From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 5:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.


We have been using these to rack mount SyncInjectors etc.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OCRW0W/

Anyone found any better options?

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Faisal Imtiaz]

last time I checked Baltic has such a device along with data plans... 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB
> management

> I'm working on a cellular product that marries a USB dongle on the Sprint LTE
> network to a Routerboard.

> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions

> Midwest Internet Exchange

> The Brothers WISP

> From: "Josh Baird" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:43:34 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

> Anybody doing this? I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that I can
> 'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has an
> integrated modem?
> Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something used
> on eBay.

> Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Mike Hammett]

I'm working on a cellular product that marries a USB dongle on the Sprint LTE 
network to a Routerboard. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Baird"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:43:34 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management 


Anybody doing this? I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that I can 
'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has an 
integrated modem? 


Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something used 
on eBay. 


Josh 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

[Eric Muehleisen]

I get 1% cashback on everything with my Discover card. I get 5% cashback
each month on certain promotional items. Like this month I get 5% cashback
on Home Improvement stores and Amazon.com.

I use this card for nearly ever purchase including paying bills. The extra
cash generated is more than I make off my savings account.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I had a customer yesterday tell me that their America First business
> credit card puts 5% cash back into their savings account every month.  That
> is the biggest cash back I have ever heard of.  I am a member, so I plan to
> look into this first of next week.
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> But if it was 1% of all the company purchases, the 1% would come back to
>> the company, right?  So unless it was for company travel I could get gigged
>> on it in theory.  I have the (probably mistaken) belief that burning
>> company miles for personal use would probably be a safer way to cheat?
>>
>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:38 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist
>>
>> Not relevant to most of the list, but a local credit union that has a
>> card with 1% cash back on everything. Paid once a year. I find that if you
>> run enough money through it that 1% cash back lets you buy a "better"
>> airline ticket using your own money, than something that earns miles which
>> come with restrictions.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> A few months ago we had a pretty good discussion about the best deals
>>> for credit cards.
>>> Today, I am looking for a better deal for company purchases.  I like my
>>> Capital One Visa that gives good miles.  I use the miles and like to store
>>> them up for my annual trips to England.
>>>
>>> But I figured I may as well start getting either miles or dollars or
>>> super low interest or something for the company credit card.
>>> Anyone have favorites for company use?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

[Jeremy]

Will do!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> That sounds hard to believe.  Please let us know if it is true.
>
> *From:* Jeremy 
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2016 8:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist
>
> I had a customer yesterday tell me that their America First business
> credit card puts 5% cash back into their savings account every month.  That
> is the biggest cash back I have ever heard of.  I am a member, so I plan to
> look into this first of next week.
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> But if it was 1% of all the company purchases, the 1% would come back to
>> the company, right?  So unless it was for company travel I could get gigged
>> on it in theory.  I have the (probably mistaken) belief that burning
>> company miles for personal use would probably be a safer way to cheat?
>>
>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:38 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist
>>
>> Not relevant to most of the list, but a local credit union that has a
>> card with 1% cash back on everything. Paid once a year. I find that if you
>> run enough money through it that 1% cash back lets you buy a "better"
>> airline ticket using your own money, than something that earns miles which
>> come with restrictions.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> A few months ago we had a pretty good discussion about the best deals
>>> for credit cards.
>>> Today, I am looking for a better deal for company purchases.  I like my
>>> Capital One Visa that gives good miles.  I use the miles and like to store
>>> them up for my annual trips to England.
>>>
>>> But I figured I may as well start getting either miles or dollars or
>>> super low interest or something for the company credit card.
>>> Anyone have favorites for company use?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

[Josh Baird]

Anybody doing this?  I'm looking at various Avocent Cyclades models that I
can 'plug' some type of cellular GSM modem into.. or maybe one that has an
integrated modem?

Not trying to spend a fortune here, so I'm probably looking for something
used on eBay.

Josh

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

[Chuck McCown]

That sounds hard to believe.  Please let us know if it is true.  

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

I had a customer yesterday tell me that their America First business credit 
card puts 5% cash back into their savings account every month.  That is the 
biggest cash back I have ever heard of.  I am a member, so I plan to look into 
this first of next week.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  But if it was 1% of all the company purchases, the 1% would come back to the 
company, right?  So unless it was for company travel I could get gigged on it 
in theory.  I have the (probably mistaken) belief that burning company miles 
for personal use would probably be a safer way to cheat?

  From: Eric Kuhnke 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:38 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

  Not relevant to most of the list, but a local credit union that has a card 
with 1% cash back on everything. Paid once a year. I find that if you run 
enough money through it that 1% cash back lets you buy a "better" airline 
ticket using your own money, than something that earns miles which come with 
restrictions.


  On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

A few months ago we had a pretty good discussion about the best deals for 
credit cards.  
Today, I am looking for a better deal for company purchases.  I like my 
Capital One Visa that gives good miles.  I use the miles and like to store them 
up for my annual trips to England.

But I figured I may as well start getting either miles or dollars or super 
low interest or something for the company credit card.  
Anyone have favorites for company use?

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

[Cameron Crum]

Not to that detail. Towers would be registered if they have a carrier on
them, but if they don't own the tower, it would be hit and miss and the FCC
does not require RF info to be submitted other than proof of coverage to
get/keep you license. They (used to) accept Carey curves for such proof. So
I wouldn't count on anything you find on that front to be very accurate.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> There are some websites that tell you by zip code where towers are and
> carriers.   They even show FCC filings... I think it is called
> cellfinder.   Been a while since I used it.   Wilson and other booster
> folks have links to helpful sites.   I have two apps on phone that help me
> with some searches..  Signal Finder and LTE Discovery... First one finds
> towers on map and second gives me strength with frequencies used.   I just
> installed Mobile Signal and it is signal strength meter.   Lastly.. There
> is an add on to Google Earth that shows rural tower sites.   Good luck
>
> On Aug 4, 2016 5:47 AM, "Andreas Wiatowski" 
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if there is an antenna/frequency database that I can
> search for cellular frequencies and tower locations used…including antenna
> down tilt and azimuth?
>
> I tried looking around the FCC databases but could not find one that gives
> me that kind of information.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
> Silo Wireless Inc.
> 519-449-5656 x-600
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

[Adam Moffett]

Right, they'll have a license to use a channel in a geographic area.  
Exactly where the antenna is and where it's pointed is up to them as 
long as the signal stays within their contour.


or that's my understanding as I sit here in my cellular armchair.


There isn't going to be that in FCC land.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Andreas Wiatowski" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:47:36 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

Does anyone know if there is an antenna/frequency database that I can 
search for cellular frequencies and tower locations used…including 
antenna down tilt and azimuth?


I tried looking around the FCC databases but could not find one that 
gives me that kind of information.


Any help is appreciated.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
519-449-5656 x-600

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

[Jeremy]

I had a customer yesterday tell me that their America First business credit
card puts 5% cash back into their savings account every month.  That is the
biggest cash back I have ever heard of.  I am a member, so I plan to look
into this first of next week.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> But if it was 1% of all the company purchases, the 1% would come back to
> the company, right?  So unless it was for company travel I could get gigged
> on it in theory.  I have the (probably mistaken) belief that burning
> company miles for personal use would probably be a safer way to cheat?
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:38 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist
>
> Not relevant to most of the list, but a local credit union that has a card
> with 1% cash back on everything. Paid once a year. I find that if you run
> enough money through it that 1% cash back lets you buy a "better" airline
> ticket using your own money, than something that earns miles which come
> with restrictions.
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> A few months ago we had a pretty good discussion about the best deals for
>> credit cards.
>> Today, I am looking for a better deal for company purchases.  I like my
>> Capital One Visa that gives good miles.  I use the miles and like to store
>> them up for my annual trips to England.
>>
>> But I figured I may as well start getting either miles or dollars or
>> super low interest or something for the company credit card.
>> Anyone have favorites for company use?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

[Jeremy]

I have one shooting exactly .99 miles here in Utah.  It has had the
modulation drop a couple times in rain during the almost two years that it
has been up, but it has never gone down.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:34 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> 5225 foot (take that Mr. Metric) link for 15-20 minutes. It will normally
> fade about 20dB at most, but that was just a very heavy rain band. Which is
> not rare. That link has been down that long more than 10 times since it was
> installed a couple years ago. They're good radios for ~99.75% availability
> which is why you need backup links and/or fault tolerant routing for the
> other 1/4%. The ethernet link bounce option on the AF24 is an awesome
> feature to trigger OSPF quickly.
>
> On 8/3/2016 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> My bar was 1.9 miles in the Chicago area, but George said a week or two
> ago that his 1.5 mile has dropped.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Bill Prince"  
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 3, 2016 1:55:26 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>
> We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. We
> also have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), but it
> experiences drops in heavy rain.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Thanks.  Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24
>
> 700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I just picked up a used AF24.  It has been years since I deployed one of
>> these.  And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first
>> windstorm.
>>
>> What is the true FDX throughput?  Is there an up down ratio of an
>> aggregate throughput or?
>> Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps.  Not sure if that is split up or not.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.

[Josh Baird]

Good find!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy  wrote:

> These work too http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-CISCO-2955-SERIES-19-
> CATALYST-RACK-MOUNT-KIT-SYSTEMS-MOUNTING-DIN-/182227023237?hash=
> item2a6d93b585:g:Kq8AAOSwnQhXntkv
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 5:28 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> rackmount.com, same thing. Expensive yes, but I haven't found anything
>> better.
>>
>> Until Forrest gets the rack mount version done, I'm just going to be
>> mounting things on a piece of rail bolted to a blank panel. Where it will
>> work anyway. Plan is to use the RM version anywhere I have a rack or rack
>> enclosure. Outdoor enclosures or wall space will get the 12-port DIN
>> version.
>>
>> On 8/3/2016 6:05 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>
>> The StarTech is *much* more flimsy compared to the ones that Ken posted,
>> but they are also much cheaper.  I much prefer the ones from
>> ianenclosures.com.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> Not better but different:
>>>
>>> http://www.iaenclosures.com/IAE2015/DIN-Rail-and-Rackmount-
>>> Accessories-Product-Selection-Guide/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Matt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 5:41 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> We have been using these to rack mount SyncInjectors etc.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OCRW0W/
>>>
>>> Anyone found any better options?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.

[Jeremy]

These work too
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-CISCO-2955-SERIES-19-CATALYST-RACK-MOUNT-KIT-SYSTEMS-MOUNTING-DIN-/182227023237?hash=item2a6d93b585:g:Kq8AAOSwnQhXntkv

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 5:28 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> rackmount.com, same thing. Expensive yes, but I haven't found anything
> better.
>
> Until Forrest gets the rack mount version done, I'm just going to be
> mounting things on a piece of rail bolted to a blank panel. Where it will
> work anyway. Plan is to use the RM version anywhere I have a rack or rack
> enclosure. Outdoor enclosures or wall space will get the 12-port DIN
> version.
>
> On 8/3/2016 6:05 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> The StarTech is *much* more flimsy compared to the ones that Ken posted,
> but they are also much cheaper.  I much prefer the ones from
> ianenclosures.com.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Not better but different:
>>
>> http://www.iaenclosures.com/IAE2015/DIN-Rail-and-
>> Rackmount-Accessories-Product-Selection-Guide/index.html
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Matt
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 5:41 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.
>>
>>
>> We have been using these to rack mount SyncInjectors etc.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OCRW0W/
>>
>> Anyone found any better options?
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Two Foot 5ghz DP Dishes

[Josh Luthman]

I have two in the office, never deployed any.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 4, 2016 10:14 AM, "Matt"  wrote:

> Anyone out there using the Hana Wireless 2 foot 5ghz dishes?  ARC ones
> are back ordered and looking for alternatives.  Really like the radio
> mount on the ARC dishes though the dishes dent rather easily.
>

[AFMUG] Two Foot 5ghz DP Dishes

[Matt]

Anyone out there using the Hana Wireless 2 foot 5ghz dishes?  ARC ones
are back ordered and looking for alternatives.  Really like the radio
mount on the ARC dishes though the dishes dent rather easily.

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

[Jaime Solorza]

There are some websites that tell you by zip code where towers are and
carriers.   They even show FCC filings... I think it is called
cellfinder.   Been a while since I used it.   Wilson and other booster
folks have links to helpful sites.   I have two apps on phone that help me
with some searches..  Signal Finder and LTE Discovery... First one finds
towers on map and second gives me strength with frequencies used.   I just
installed Mobile Signal and it is signal strength meter.   Lastly.. There
is an add on to Google Earth that shows rural tower sites.   Good luck

On Aug 4, 2016 5:47 AM, "Andreas Wiatowski" 
wrote:

Does anyone know if there is an antenna/frequency database that I can
search for cellular frequencies and tower locations used…including antenna
down tilt and azimuth?

I tried looking around the FCC databases but could not find one that gives
me that kind of information.

Any help is appreciated.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
519-449-5656 x-600

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading anySMs?

[Ken Hohhof]

I remember when you could reboot an SM and customers didn’t call and complain.  
“My Internet has been up and down for a month.  OK, maybe once yesterday for 30 
seconds.”


From: George Skorup 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading anySMs?

Maybe try it on a mixed sector and see what happens? It probably isn't as bad 
as you think having the 13.x SMs downgrade to 12.1.2 and then back up to 13.4.1.

I remember sitting at my desk one day and attempting to load a 14.1.2 beta on a 
sector that was running a previous beta. I hit enable auto-update and then read 
some messages on the list or something. Went back to it after 20 minutes or so 
and went... WTF, why are all of the SMs on 13.2.1!? It's that damn package 
order list! So like 15 SMs finished in that 20 minutes. Then I did it all over 
again and it was fine. And no customers called, even when I updated the AP. 
That's the nice thing with Canopy and ePMP, it loads and flashes the image 
while continuing to pass customer traffic. Might slow down a little bit, but 
that's about it. Now UBNT, you upload the image, hit upgrade and the customer 
thinks their service just went down. So they power-cycle it. Argh!


On 8/3/2016 11:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  My main problem is coming from updating 430 SMs (200+ of them at one tower) 
from 11.2 to 13.4.1 so I can replace the APs with 450i.  But 430 needs to go 
through 12.1.x first.  To complicate things, the over-the-air upgrades to 
12.1.x have been failing, so I have a mix on 11.2, 12.1.2, and 13.x.  It just 
seems a shame to take the 13.x SMs back to 12.1.2.  But using SM Autoupdate 
doesn’t seem to leave SMs unable to register and needing a reboot like a direct 
upgrade.

  With 450 I have no problem with go directly to 14.1.2, do not pass Go, do not 
collect $200.  14.1.2 is wonderful.


  From: George Skorup 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:42 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading 
anySMs?

  I've always used the 'use access point as file server' option. I assume yours 
is set the same. What that does is upload the boot image for the configured SM 
platform revision (P9, 10, etc) to the AP. The *AP* then sends the image down 
to the SMs (via RF private IP) and reports progress back to CNUT (which is what 
the "update application address" is for on the AP's general config page). If 
you have multiple platform versions selected, it will start at the top of the 
list, and cycle through them every 20 minutes. 'Order by SM number' is helpful, 
but I usually just do things half manually. Like I know x AP has only P10 SMs 
registered, so I turn off everything except P10. Or I'll go tower by tower and 
enable auto-update on a 4 sector cluster and wait for all SMs to finish, then 
update the APs and move on to the next.

  The last time I tried 'Update Entire Network' ungood things happened.

  So anyway the problem there is that the AP doesn't care what version the SMs 
are running, it just pushes the image to them. If you need to update specific 
SMs to a certain version, then the only way is to manually add their management 
IP address to CNUT.

  Checking or unchecking the SMs in the CNUT auto discover list does nothing 
more than allow you to select them to remove them from the list. Other than 
that, it's purely informational, such as auto-update progress which the AP 
reports back with SNMP messages. That list is simply the AP's LUID table.

  It's not necessarily bad the way it works, it's just not good. Your situation 
though, I don't know what to tell you other than... don't fall so far behind on 
updates? . ducking. The main problem I have is the guys "finding" SMs 
in the trucks and they end up being really friggin old. Like a 450 the other 
day on 12.1.2 or something like that. I said, no, bad dog, find another SM. Not 
my problem that you can't keep your truck organized.


  On 8/3/2016 10:01 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I’ve been using CNUT for 9 years but am a newbie at SM Autoupdate because I 
thought it wouldn’t work if you checked Public for the IP address.

When I enabled Autoupdate for the AP, CNUT immediately started updating all 
the SMs it discovered under that AP, without me checking the boxes or even 
telling it to update anything.  Which surprised me.

It sounds like you are saying you can check the boxes for which SMs you 
want the AP to autoupdate, but that’s not what I observed.  What am I doing 
wrong?

In the past, I have always given CNUT the IP address of each SM, and 
checked the boxes for which ones I wanted updated.  I’m trying to learn how to 
use SM Autoupdate.  The manual doesn’t seem to be helping me a lot.


From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 7:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading 
anySMs?

yeah what 

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

[Mike Hammett]

There isn't going to be that in FCC land. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Andreas Wiatowski"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:47:36 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC 




Does anyone know if there is an antenna/frequency database that I can search 
for cellular frequencies and tower locations used…including antenna down tilt 
and azimuth? 


I tried looking around the FCC databases but could not find one that gives me 
that kind of information. 


Any help is appreciated. 




Cheers, 


Andreas Wiatowski, CEO 
Silo Wireless Inc. 
519-449-5656 x-600 

[AFMUG] Cellular Antenna & Frequency database - FCC

[Andreas Wiatowski]

Does anyone know if there is an antenna/frequency database that I can search 
for cellular frequencies and tower locations used…including antenna down tilt 
and azimuth?

I tried looking around the FCC databases but could not find one that gives me 
that kind of information.

Any help is appreciated.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
519-449-5656 x-600

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading anySMs?

[George Skorup]

Maybe try it on a mixed sector and see what happens? It probably isn't 
as bad as you think having the 13.x SMs downgrade to 12.1.2 and then 
back up to 13.4.1.


I remember sitting at my desk one day and attempting to load a 14.1.2 
beta on a sector that was running a previous beta. I hit enable 
auto-update and then read some messages on the list or something. Went 
back to it after 20 minutes or so and went... WTF, why are all of the 
SMs on 13.2.1!? It's that damn package order list! So like 15 SMs 
finished in that 20 minutes. Then I did it all over again and it was 
fine. And no customers called, even when I updated the AP. That's the 
nice thing with Canopy and ePMP, it loads and flashes the image while 
continuing to pass customer traffic. Might slow down a little bit, but 
that's about it. Now UBNT, you upload the image, hit upgrade and the 
customer thinks their service just went down. So they power-cycle it. Argh!


On 8/3/2016 11:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
My main problem is coming from updating 430 SMs (200+ of them at one 
tower) from 11.2 to 13.4.1 so I can replace the APs with 450i.  But 
430 needs to go through 12.1.x first. To complicate things, the 
over-the-air upgrades to 12.1.x have been failing, so I have a mix on 
11.2, 12.1.2, and 13.x.  It just seems a shame to take the 13.x SMs 
back to 12.1.2.  But using SM Autoupdate doesn’t seem to leave SMs 
unable to register and needing a reboot like a direct upgrade.
With 450 I have no problem with go directly to 14.1.2, do not pass Go, 
do not collect $200.  14.1.2 is wonderful.

*From:* George Skorup 
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:42 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without 
downgrading anySMs?
I've always used the 'use access point as file server' option. I 
assume yours is set the same. What that does is upload the boot image 
for the configured SM platform revision (P9, 10, etc) to the AP. The 
*AP* then sends the image down to the SMs (via RF private IP) and 
reports progress back to CNUT (which is what the "update application 
address" is for on the AP's general config page). If you have multiple 
platform versions selected, it will start at the top of the list, and 
cycle through them every 20 minutes. 'Order by SM number' is helpful, 
but I usually just do things half manually. Like I know x AP has only 
P10 SMs registered, so I turn off everything except P10. Or I'll go 
tower by tower and enable auto-update on a 4 sector cluster and wait 
for all SMs to finish, then update the APs and move on to the next.


The last time I tried 'Update Entire Network' ungood things happened.

So anyway the problem there is that the AP doesn't care what version 
the SMs are running, it just pushes the image to them. If you need to 
update specific SMs to a certain version, then the only way is to 
manually add their management IP address to CNUT.


Checking or unchecking the SMs in the CNUT auto discover list does 
nothing more than allow you to select them to remove them from the 
list. Other than that, it's purely informational, such as auto-update 
progress which the AP reports back with SNMP messages. That list is 
simply the AP's LUID table.


It's not necessarily bad the way it works, it's just not good. Your 
situation though, I don't know what to tell you other than... don't 
fall so far behind on updates? . ducking. The main problem I 
have is the guys "finding" SMs in the trucks and they end up being 
really friggin old. Like a 450 the other day on 12.1.2 or something 
like that. I said, no, bad dog, find another SM. Not my problem that 
you can't keep your truck organized.


On 8/3/2016 10:01 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I’ve been using CNUT for 9 years but am a newbie at SM Autoupdate 
because I thought it wouldn’t work if you checked Public for the IP 
address.
When I enabled Autoupdate for the AP, CNUT immediately started 
updating all the SMs it discovered under that AP, without me checking 
the boxes or even telling it to update anything.  Which surprised me.
It sounds like you are saying you can check the boxes for which SMs 
you want the AP to autoupdate, but that’s not what I observed.  What 
am I doing wrong?
In the past, I have always given CNUT the IP address of each SM, and 
checked the boxes for which ones I wanted updated.  I’m trying to 
learn how to use SM Autoupdate.  The manual doesn’t seem to be 
helping me a lot.

*From:* Sean Heskett 
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 7:43 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without 
downgrading anySMs?

yeah what bill and geroge said
-sean
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Bill Prince > wrote:


What George said.

However You can sort by version number,check all the ones at
the top of the list (version A), upgrade them to B, then do