Re: [AFMUG] While replacing equipment

[Jaime Solorza]

Sorry. . phone is not cool...Tardis

Jaime Solorza

On Jul 26, 2017 9:24 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Nope.  Couldn't find a nearby Tartis
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Jul 26, 2017 9:17 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Did you try it?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2017 11:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Today we worked replacing and upgrading radios and PLCs at several lift
>>> stations in Fabens, Texas, when I saw this  rather provocative...
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] While replacing equipment

[Jaime Solorza]

Nope.  Couldn't find a nearby Tartis

Jaime Solorza

On Jul 26, 2017 9:17 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Did you try it?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jul 26, 2017 11:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> Today we worked replacing and upgrading radios and PLCs at several lift
>> stations in Fabens, Texas, when I saw this  rather provocative...
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] While replacing equipment

[Josh Luthman]

Did you try it?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 26, 2017 11:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Today we worked replacing and upgrading radios and PLCs at several lift
> stations in Fabens, Texas, when I saw this  rather provocative...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question

[Rob Genovesi]

We have been demoing SmartRG's device manager.  We do both xDSL and fixed
wireless, SmartRG has a nice xDSL modem/router we've been using for
awhile.  They have an ethernet model that could work with fixed wireless,
fiber, etc.  http://www.smartrg.com/hardware

Their Device Manager is a TR-069 platform, designed to work with SmartRG
products but you can incorporate other products that support TR-069 with
some (a lot of)work.  I'm sure they would be happy to integrate other
products - for a price.  http://www.smartrg.com/device-manager

So far seems to be a pretty simple/solid platform for managing customer
devices, changing Wi-Fi SSID/passwords, etc and basic troubleshooting
inside the network.  It has a basic customer portal so that customers can
login and self-help.

Functional, but not the "wow factor" I was hoping for when trying to figure
out our next generation managed platform.  Would really love to see
Ubiquiti do an MSP version of AmpliFi - would jump all over that.  All.
Over. That.


-Rob


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:29 AM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> We've been demoing Calix ConsumerConnect+ and GigaCenter routers. It's not
> bad, especially on the fiber side. Might need a cost analysis for a typical
> WISP though.
>
>
> On 7/26/2017 12:20 PM, Christopher Gray wrote:
>
> To reply to the original question:
>
> We use a few options:
>
> *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device
> depending on area)
> *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased
> outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device)
> *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access
> (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area)
>
> I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have
> one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the
> R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one
> person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm
> not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited
> accounts.
>
>
> --
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>> We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms:
>>
>> We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95
>> Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95
>>
>> We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95
>> depending on the contract term.
>>
>> We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and
>> replacement.  Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt.  of the 3
>>
>> There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Harold Bledsoe <
>> hbledso...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you
>> provision the devices?  And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Hal
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Chuck McCown]

Is there such a thing as a “recent” R56?  I did not realize someone was 
updating that document.

From: Paul McCall 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 2:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

Sure…..

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

 

I can probably post a recent R56 on a download site if you want it.

 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:05 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

  Lewis, 

   

  I am going to try your recommendation on some of the towers that I own.  

   

  Paul

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman

  Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:04 PM


  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

   

  I like putting a panel protector in. It doesn't hep in a very near strike but 
it does with the incoming stuff off the grid.

   

  On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:02 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

Yep, we run 10 gauge out the 200ft.  our own breaker, plenty of room in the 
panel.  We beef up the ground in the service panel that feeds us < 5ohm, and 
often install a panel protector there as well as next to the tower panel.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:15 PM


To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

 

Not if there is sufficient line gauge to support the load and there is room 
in the panel.

 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:58 AM Paul McCall  wrote:

  That’s what I was thinking, but I wanted others opinions.

   

  

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:57 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

   

  Less points of failure at the main, one less breaker, one less spot for 
some random dude to shut something off. 50 foot isn't all that far unless we 
are talking about boring through 50 foot of concrete, bonding your ground to 
the main rather than the sub panel means less chance of you shunting for the 
subpanel

   

  On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

Electrical opinions wanted.

 

On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get 
to (but doable).

 

There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest 
place, but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by my 
other threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out equipment 
box at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground, install panel 
protector , bond to the tower, etc.

 

Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) 
vs a subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800  

pa...@pdmnet.net

www.pdmnet.com

www.floridabroadband.com

 

 

   

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Jaime Solorza]

These are some used at Western Refinery...I have no experience with them.
Friend of mine works there...two way radios are intrinsic safe Motorola
brand...
https://www.pixavi.com/product/wifi-infrastructure/?gclid=CjwKEAjw--DLBRCN_bW36taJkhwSJABSMEdubahRNHWAux_jz1JLAeo11AnTjU1KKTM2vJQnqwQEYBoCtW3w_wcB

Jaime Solorza

On Jul 26, 2017 7:41 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Correct the complete "assembly" must adhere to standard.  You can find
> white papers and standards on ISA.org
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Jul 26, 2017 2:18 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> If it is certified IS in that config then yes.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:15 PM can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> ​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
>>> acceptable in this situation?​
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal
 with a bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of
 work orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
 p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

>>> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup <
> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi
>> solutions at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>>
>> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>
>> It is for WiFi.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup <
>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
>>> stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using
>>> mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>>
>>> canopy 450i
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>>
 Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
 fueling station. Any recommendations?

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Jaime Solorza]

Correct the complete "assembly" must adhere to standard.  You can find
white papers and standards on ISA.org

Jaime Solorza

On Jul 26, 2017 2:18 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> If it is certified IS in that config then yes.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:15 PM can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> ​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
>> acceptable in this situation?​
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal with
>>> a bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of work
>>> orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
>>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup <
 george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi
> solutions at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>
> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>
> It is for WiFi.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup <
> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
>> stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using
>> mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>
>> canopy 450i
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
>>> fueling station. Any recommendations?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Accedian

[Josh Reynolds]

It IS possible but it requires special software to reprogram the FPGA and
then load different firmware.

I don't think it's likely they will let you do it, but it's worth a shot.

If you'd like I can have someone reach out.

On Jul 26, 2017 7:47 PM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:

> Can I flash my performant hw to acceding NIDS or should I just send them
> to the recycler?
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 4:22 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Accedian
>
> A few, used to work for them. What's up?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Jul 26, 2017 3:14 PM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:
>
>> Anyone has a contact in Accedian?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Accedian

[Gino A. Villarini]

Can I flash my performant hw to acceding NIDS or should I just send them to the 
recycler?

From: Af > on behalf of Josh 
Reynolds >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 4:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Accedian

A few, used to work for them. What's up?




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Jul 26, 2017 3:14 PM, "Gino A. Villarini" 
> wrote:
Anyone has a contact in Accedian?



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] Exchange Migration Consultant

[Gino A. Villarini]

Tks

From: Af > on behalf of 
Justin Wilson >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 3:46 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Exchange Migration Consultant

Talk to Scott and Mark from On-Ramp.  Very versed in office 365 and exchange.
Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

www.mtin.net
www.midwest-ix.com




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Jul 26, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:

we used progent a few times for that, flawless

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
Hey

We are looking into migrating our Exchange Server to Exchange 365, although  we 
have the in-house tech guys to attack this feast, we prefer to outsource it and 
focus on all our tasks on hand.

Any recommendations?




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Home Security

[Chris Fabien]

Careful on state regulations on security systems. In Michigan, we can do
security cameras but cannot do anything having to do with a
burglar/security alarm system unless we are licensed by the state, and it's
a fairly arduous process to get that license.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> Same backend as Vivint AFAIK
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> I believe that you can resell through alarm.com as well, after you get
>> certified.  We are using the service through a third party.  They have it
>> branded, and have a remote app and everything.  It works well.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Harold Bledsoe 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny you mention that.  We also see that as a gap and good revenue
>>> opportunity.
>>>
>>> http://na.smc.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/SMC_Ignite
>>> Net_Tech_Brief-v1.0.pdf
>>>
>>> The Secure Watch service is only available sold through operators so hit
>>> me offlist if you want more details.  The high level is that you provision
>>> cameras through the IgniteNet controller for a customer and then ship or
>>> install them at that customer.  In the provisioning, the customer gets a
>>> welcome email with instructions from the Secure Watch system to finish
>>> setting up the account etc.
>>>
>>> I use it myself and what I like most about it is that there is a bucket
>>> plan where multiple cameras share storage so the cost is sane when you have
>>> more than one camera (compared to Nest Cam and others).
>>>
>>> Easy Peasy!
>>>
>>> -Hal
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:06 PM Chris Wright 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dovetailing with the managed WiFi thread, and since the market is
 receptive to value-added services like VOIP and WiFi… what’s anyone doing
 for managed home security systems, cameras, etc.? I’ve looked at Novi and
 wasn’t impressed with their offerings. I love the UBNT cameras, but there’s
 no turnkey way to resell that I can see.



 Chris Wright

 Network Administrator



>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Home Security

[Jeremy]

Same backend as Vivint AFAIK

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I believe that you can resell through alarm.com as well, after you get
> certified.  We are using the service through a third party.  They have it
> branded, and have a remote app and everything.  It works well.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Harold Bledsoe 
> wrote:
>
>> Funny you mention that.  We also see that as a gap and good revenue
>> opportunity.
>>
>> http://na.smc.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/SMC_Ignite
>> Net_Tech_Brief-v1.0.pdf
>>
>> The Secure Watch service is only available sold through operators so hit
>> me offlist if you want more details.  The high level is that you provision
>> cameras through the IgniteNet controller for a customer and then ship or
>> install them at that customer.  In the provisioning, the customer gets a
>> welcome email with instructions from the Secure Watch system to finish
>> setting up the account etc.
>>
>> I use it myself and what I like most about it is that there is a bucket
>> plan where multiple cameras share storage so the cost is sane when you have
>> more than one camera (compared to Nest Cam and others).
>>
>> Easy Peasy!
>>
>> -Hal
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:06 PM Chris Wright  wrote:
>>
>>> Dovetailing with the managed WiFi thread, and since the market is
>>> receptive to value-added services like VOIP and WiFi… what’s anyone doing
>>> for managed home security systems, cameras, etc.? I’ve looked at Novi and
>>> wasn’t impressed with their offerings. I love the UBNT cameras, but there’s
>>> no turnkey way to resell that I can see.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Home Security

[Jeremy]

I believe that you can resell through alarm.com as well, after you get
certified.  We are using the service through a third party.  They have it
branded, and have a remote app and everything.  It works well.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Harold Bledsoe 
wrote:

> Funny you mention that.  We also see that as a gap and good revenue
> opportunity.
>
> http://na.smc.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/SMC_
> IgniteNet_Tech_Brief-v1.0.pdf
>
> The Secure Watch service is only available sold through operators so hit
> me offlist if you want more details.  The high level is that you provision
> cameras through the IgniteNet controller for a customer and then ship or
> install them at that customer.  In the provisioning, the customer gets a
> welcome email with instructions from the Secure Watch system to finish
> setting up the account etc.
>
> I use it myself and what I like most about it is that there is a bucket
> plan where multiple cameras share storage so the cost is sane when you have
> more than one camera (compared to Nest Cam and others).
>
> Easy Peasy!
>
> -Hal
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:06 PM Chris Wright  wrote:
>
>> Dovetailing with the managed WiFi thread, and since the market is
>> receptive to value-added services like VOIP and WiFi… what’s anyone doing
>> for managed home security systems, cameras, etc.? I’ve looked at Novi and
>> wasn’t impressed with their offerings. I love the UBNT cameras, but there’s
>> no turnkey way to resell that I can see.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Wright
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Josh Luthman]

I graph/poll the SNMP sync stat.  There's one AP that gives me some hassle
but all of the other ones are just fine.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> review your AP logs, you might be suprised
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> GPS pucks are perfectly reliable for us.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> packetflux is the only way to sync, everything else is garbage, GPS
>>> pucks aren't reliable, CTMs and CMMs are a waste of money and are no where
>>> near as versatile, cambium cant get their pucks to work, so I wouldn't
>>> trust their little syncpipe knockoffs either. Ala-cart sync, switch
>>> agnostic, no worries. Small sites you can split one injector to power
>>> and/or sync a mix of voltages and pinouts, PLUS (this is a big thing) two
>>> Fridays ago, after hours, had an issue with getting one working, got direct
>>> communication from packetflux and got things going, good luck with that
>>> from cambium and their new tiered support
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:54 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
 It's not only the antenna. Newer 1000 boards and all 2k's have a
 GPS+GLONASS receiver. They also updated the 450AP a couple years ago with a
 revision that includes this receiver. GPS-only kinda always sucked. With
 GLONASS added, you have a lot more sats available, so the probability of
 maintaining lock is much, much better. I really wish Forrest would start
 using this in his pipes and boxes.

 Typically moving the antenna a few inches or a foot says there's some
 multipath going on. And sometimes the receivers just get confused and need
 a power-cycle. I have some SyncPipes on 1-foot stand-offs with another 300'
 of tower above them and rain will make them see no sats.

 What has worked better for me than anything else is a SyncInjector and
 pipe/box on the ground away from tower steel and lots of RF. Even then,
 those get confused sometimes too. Usually when I see really bad fading at
 night during the summer, I'll see that tracked sats will go from the normal
 9-12 down to 5-7, but they rarely lose lock.

 Once upon a time, I had a SyncInjector and a pipe running in the server
 room for 4-5 days (because I forgot to run a cable outside for the pipe).
 It worked fine... until it rained.


 On 7/26/2017 1:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

> When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's
> would keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs,
> everything just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random
> surface, and lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're
> getting out of Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and
> we're back to having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new
> antennas less sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was going
> from 12 satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked (still 20
> visible) at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches 
> vertically,
> and now it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.
>
> Has something changed with the Antennas?
>


>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Josh Baird]

I do review logs.. and I don't have any issues.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> review your AP logs, you might be suprised
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> GPS pucks are perfectly reliable for us.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> packetflux is the only way to sync, everything else is garbage, GPS
>>> pucks aren't reliable, CTMs and CMMs are a waste of money and are no where
>>> near as versatile, cambium cant get their pucks to work, so I wouldn't
>>> trust their little syncpipe knockoffs either. Ala-cart sync, switch
>>> agnostic, no worries. Small sites you can split one injector to power
>>> and/or sync a mix of voltages and pinouts, PLUS (this is a big thing) two
>>> Fridays ago, after hours, had an issue with getting one working, got direct
>>> communication from packetflux and got things going, good luck with that
>>> from cambium and their new tiered support
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:54 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
 It's not only the antenna. Newer 1000 boards and all 2k's have a
 GPS+GLONASS receiver. They also updated the 450AP a couple years ago with a
 revision that includes this receiver. GPS-only kinda always sucked. With
 GLONASS added, you have a lot more sats available, so the probability of
 maintaining lock is much, much better. I really wish Forrest would start
 using this in his pipes and boxes.

 Typically moving the antenna a few inches or a foot says there's some
 multipath going on. And sometimes the receivers just get confused and need
 a power-cycle. I have some SyncPipes on 1-foot stand-offs with another 300'
 of tower above them and rain will make them see no sats.

 What has worked better for me than anything else is a SyncInjector and
 pipe/box on the ground away from tower steel and lots of RF. Even then,
 those get confused sometimes too. Usually when I see really bad fading at
 night during the summer, I'll see that tracked sats will go from the normal
 9-12 down to 5-7, but they rarely lose lock.

 Once upon a time, I had a SyncInjector and a pipe running in the server
 room for 4-5 days (because I forgot to run a cable outside for the pipe).
 It worked fine... until it rained.


 On 7/26/2017 1:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

> When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's
> would keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs,
> everything just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random
> surface, and lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're
> getting out of Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and
> we're back to having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new
> antennas less sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was going
> from 12 satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked (still 20
> visible) at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches 
> vertically,
> and now it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.
>
> Has something changed with the Antennas?
>


>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Mike Hammett]

*nods* Never a problem. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Baird"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 2:11:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues 


GPS pucks are perfectly reliable for us. 


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



packetflux is the only way to sync, everything else is garbage, GPS pucks 
aren't reliable, CTMs and CMMs are a waste of money and are no where near as 
versatile, cambium cant get their pucks to work, so I wouldn't trust their 
little syncpipe knockoffs either. Ala-cart sync, switch agnostic, no worries. 
Small sites you can split one injector to power and/or sync a mix of voltages 
and pinouts, PLUS (this is a big thing) two Fridays ago, after hours, had an 
issue with getting one working, got direct communication from packetflux and 
got things going, good luck with that from cambium and their new tiered support 




On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:54 PM, George Skorup < george.sko...@cbcast.com > 
wrote: 


It's not only the antenna. Newer 1000 boards and all 2k's have a GPS+GLONASS 
receiver. They also updated the 450AP a couple years ago with a revision that 
includes this receiver. GPS-only kinda always sucked. With GLONASS added, you 
have a lot more sats available, so the probability of maintaining lock is much, 
much better. I really wish Forrest would start using this in his pipes and 
boxes. 

Typically moving the antenna a few inches or a foot says there's some multipath 
going on. And sometimes the receivers just get confused and need a power-cycle. 
I have some SyncPipes on 1-foot stand-offs with another 300' of tower above 
them and rain will make them see no sats. 

What has worked better for me than anything else is a SyncInjector and pipe/box 
on the ground away from tower steel and lots of RF. Even then, those get 
confused sometimes too. Usually when I see really bad fading at night during 
the summer, I'll see that tracked sats will go from the normal 9-12 down to 
5-7, but they rarely lose lock. 

Once upon a time, I had a SyncInjector and a pipe running in the server room 
for 4-5 days (because I forgot to run a cable outside for the pipe). It worked 
fine... until it rained. 



On 7/26/2017 1:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote: 


When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's would keep 
losing satellites. Then after our first couple installs, everything just Worked 
after that. Slap the GPS antenna on any random surface, and lots-o-satellites 
with no issues. Now the New AP's we're getting out of Distribution have the 
GLONASS label on the antennas, and we're back to having hit and miss GPS again 
at new sites. Are the new antennas less sensitive? At one location, 1 out of 
the 4 APs was going from 12 satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites 
tracked (still 20 visible) at random times. We moved the GPS Puck about 4 
inches vertically, and now it has a steady 17 satellites tracked. 

Has something changed with the Antennas? 

Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question

[Harold Bledsoe]

> I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything.

Is that because they don't want a personal SSID/passcode, guest network,
etc.?  Or is it because they are terrified of a typical enterprise
management config interface?

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM Christopher Gray 
wrote:

> To reply to the original question:
>
> We use a few options:
>
> *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device
> depending on area)
> *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased
> outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device)
> *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access
> (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area)
>
> I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have
> one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the
> R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one
> person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm
> not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited
> accounts.
>
>
> --
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>> We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms:
>>
>> We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95
>> Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95
>>
>> We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95
>> depending on the contract term.
>>
>> We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and
>> replacement.  Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt.  of the 3
>>
>> There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Harold Bledsoe <
>> hbledso...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you
>> provision the devices?  And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Hal
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Home Security

[Harold Bledsoe]

Funny you mention that.  We also see that as a gap and good revenue
opportunity.

http://na.smc.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/SMC_IgniteNet_Tech_Brief-v1.0.pdf

The Secure Watch service is only available sold through operators so hit me
offlist if you want more details.  The high level is that you provision
cameras through the IgniteNet controller for a customer and then ship or
install them at that customer.  In the provisioning, the customer gets a
welcome email with instructions from the Secure Watch system to finish
setting up the account etc.

I use it myself and what I like most about it is that there is a bucket
plan where multiple cameras share storage so the cost is sane when you have
more than one camera (compared to Nest Cam and others).

Easy Peasy!

-Hal

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:06 PM Chris Wright  wrote:

> Dovetailing with the managed WiFi thread, and since the market is
> receptive to value-added services like VOIP and WiFi… what’s anyone doing
> for managed home security systems, cameras, etc.? I’ve looked at Novi and
> wasn’t impressed with their offerings. I love the UBNT cameras, but there’s
> no turnkey way to resell that I can see.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Paul McCall]

Sure…..

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

I can probably post a recent R56 on a download site if you want it.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:05 PM Paul McCall 
> wrote:
Lewis,

I am going to try your recommendation on some of the towers that I own.

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:04 PM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

I like putting a panel protector in. It doesn't hep in a very near strike but 
it does with the incoming stuff off the grid.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:02 PM Paul McCall 
> wrote:
Yep, we run 10 gauge out the 200ft.  our own breaker, plenty of room in the 
panel.  We beef up the ground in the service panel that feeds us < 5ohm, and 
often install a panel protector there as well as next to the tower panel.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:15 PM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

Not if there is sufficient line gauge to support the load and there is room in 
the panel.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:58 AM Paul McCall 
> wrote:
That’s what I was thinking, but I wanted others opinions.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

Less points of failure at the main, one less breaker, one less spot for some 
random dude to shut something off. 50 foot isn't all that far unless we are 
talking about boring through 50 foot of concrete, bonding your ground to the 
main rather than the sub panel means less chance of you shunting for the 
subpanel

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall 
> wrote:
Electrical opinions wanted.

On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get to (but 
doable).

There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest place, 
but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by my other 
threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out equipment box 
at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground, install panel 
protector , bond to the tower, etc.

Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) vs a 
subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Accedian

[Josh Reynolds]

A few, used to work for them. What's up?

On Jul 26, 2017 3:14 PM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:

> Anyone has a contact in Accedian?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Lewis Bergman]

If it is certified IS in that config then yes.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:15 PM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> ​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
> acceptable in this situation?​
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal with
>> a bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of work
>> orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
 I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions
 at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.

 On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

 It is for WiFi.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup <
 george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
> stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using
> mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>
>
> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> canopy 450i
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
>> station. Any recommendations?
>>
>
>
>


>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[can...@believewireless.net]

​Would mounting the AP outside and then running coax in to antennas be
acceptable in this situation?​

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal with a
> bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of work
> orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions
>>> at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>>
>>> It is for WiFi.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
 stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using
 mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.


 On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

 canopy 450i


 On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
 p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
> station. Any recommendations?
>



>>>
>>>
>>

[AFMUG] Accedian

[Gino A. Villarini]

Anyone has a contact in Accedian?



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Lewis Bergman]

I can probably post a recent R56 on a download site if you want it.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:05 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

> Lewis,
>
>
>
> I am going to try your recommendation on some of the towers that I own.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:04 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install
>
>
>
> I like putting a panel protector in. It doesn't hep in a very near strike
> but it does with the incoming stuff off the grid.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:02 PM Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> Yep, we run 10 gauge out the 200ft.  our own breaker, plenty of room in
> the panel.  We beef up the ground in the service panel that feeds us <
> 5ohm, and often install a panel protector there as well as next to the
> tower panel.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:15 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install
>
>
>
> Not if there is sufficient line gauge to support the load and there is
> room in the panel.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:58 AM Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> That’s what I was thinking, but I wanted others opinions.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install
>
>
>
> Less points of failure at the main, one less breaker, one less spot for
> some random dude to shut something off. 50 foot isn't all that far unless
> we are talking about boring through 50 foot of concrete, bonding your
> ground to the main rather than the sub panel means less chance of you
> shunting for the subpanel
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> Electrical opinions wanted.
>
>
>
> On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get to
> (but doable).
>
>
>
> There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest
> place, but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by
> my other threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out
> equipment box at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground,
> install panel protector , bond to the tower, etc.
>
>
>
> Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) vs a
> subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Paul McCall]

Lewis,

I am going to try your recommendation on some of the towers that I own.

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

I like putting a panel protector in. It doesn't hep in a very near strike but 
it does with the incoming stuff off the grid.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:02 PM Paul McCall 
> wrote:
Yep, we run 10 gauge out the 200ft.  our own breaker, plenty of room in the 
panel.  We beef up the ground in the service panel that feeds us < 5ohm, and 
often install a panel protector there as well as next to the tower panel.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:15 PM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

Not if there is sufficient line gauge to support the load and there is room in 
the panel.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:58 AM Paul McCall 
> wrote:
That’s what I was thinking, but I wanted others opinions.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

Less points of failure at the main, one less breaker, one less spot for some 
random dude to shut something off. 50 foot isn't all that far unless we are 
talking about boring through 50 foot of concrete, bonding your ground to the 
main rather than the sub panel means less chance of you shunting for the 
subpanel

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall 
> wrote:
Electrical opinions wanted.

On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get to (but 
doable).

There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest place, 
but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by my other 
threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out equipment box 
at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground, install panel 
protector , bond to the tower, etc.

Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) vs a 
subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Lewis Bergman]

I like putting a panel protector in. It doesn't hep in a very near strike
but it does with the incoming stuff off the grid.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:02 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

> Yep, we run 10 gauge out the 200ft.  our own breaker, plenty of room in
> the panel.  We beef up the ground in the service panel that feeds us <
> 5ohm, and often install a panel protector there as well as next to the
> tower panel.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:15 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install
>
>
>
> Not if there is sufficient line gauge to support the load and there is
> room in the panel.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:58 AM Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> That’s what I was thinking, but I wanted others opinions.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install
>
>
>
> Less points of failure at the main, one less breaker, one less spot for
> some random dude to shut something off. 50 foot isn't all that far unless
> we are talking about boring through 50 foot of concrete, bonding your
> ground to the main rather than the sub panel means less chance of you
> shunting for the subpanel
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> Electrical opinions wanted.
>
>
>
> On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get to
> (but doable).
>
>
>
> There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest
> place, but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by
> my other threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out
> equipment box at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground,
> install panel protector , bond to the tower, etc.
>
>
>
> Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) vs a
> subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Lewis Bergman]

Could be IS/HAZLOC locations like gas plants or refineries. We deal with a
bunch of those and they have IS tablets they use to keep track of work
orders and lockouts and such. Most still use paper tickets though.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions
>> at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>>
>> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>>
>> It is for WiFi.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i stuff.
>>> Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using mobile
>>> devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>>
>>> canopy 450i
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>>
 Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
 station. Any recommendations?

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Paul McCall]

Yep, we run 10 gauge out the 200ft.  our own breaker, plenty of room in the 
panel.  We beef up the ground in the service panel that feeds us < 5ohm, and 
often install a panel protector there as well as next to the tower panel.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

Not if there is sufficient line gauge to support the load and there is room in 
the panel.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:58 AM Paul McCall 
> wrote:
That’s what I was thinking, but I wanted others opinions.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

Less points of failure at the main, one less breaker, one less spot for some 
random dude to shut something off. 50 foot isn't all that far unless we are 
talking about boring through 50 foot of concrete, bonding your ground to the 
main rather than the sub panel means less chance of you shunting for the 
subpanel

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall 
> wrote:
Electrical opinions wanted.

On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get to (but 
doable).

There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest place, 
but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by my other 
threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out equipment box 
at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground, install panel 
protector , bond to the tower, etc.

Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) vs a 
subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[can...@believewireless.net]

Customer requested it. But I'm guessing phones, tablets or laptops.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions at
> gas stations before, but not near the pumps.
>
> On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
>
> It is for WiFi.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i stuff.
>> Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using mobile
>> devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>
>> canopy 450i
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
>>> station. Any recommendations?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 900 filter

[Craig House]

I don't believe all of them had them in them it was something that you could 
order as an option

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2017, at 14:42, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> the integrated 900 fsk APs had them in there too
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:11 PM, George Skorup  
>> wrote:
>> I have two DCI rack-mount 900 filters from the WaveRider days. I think one 
>> is tuned for 911.2 and the other at 918.4. DCI can re-tune them for a 
>> nominal fee. These used to be on 1-7/8" heliax to 460 feet. Ah, the good ol 
>> days. OK, not so good.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/26/2017 1:57 PM, Craig House wrote:
>>> Somebody posted either on this list the other day or Facebook group that 
>>> they were looking for a 900 MHz filter. I was cleaning out one of our 
>>> warehouses today and found four of them if that person is on this list and 
>>> still interested please feel free to shoot me a message
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Exchange Migration Consultant

[Justin Wilson]

Talk to Scott and Mark from On-Ramp.  Very versed in office 365 and exchange.  
Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

www.mtin.net
www.midwest-ix.com

> On Jul 26, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> we used progent a few times for that, flawless
> 
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Gino A. Villarini  > wrote:
> Hey
> 
> We are looking into migrating our Exchange Server to Exchange 365, although  
> we have the in-house tech guys to attack this feast, we prefer to outsource 
> it and focus on all our tasks on hand.  
> 
> Any recommendations? 
> 
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] 900 filter

[Steve Jones]

the integrated 900 fsk APs had them in there too

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:11 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> I have two DCI rack-mount 900 filters from the WaveRider days. I think one
> is tuned for 911.2 and the other at 918.4. DCI can re-tune them for a
> nominal fee. These used to be on 1-7/8" heliax to 460 feet. Ah, the good ol
> days. OK, not so good.
>
>
> On 7/26/2017 1:57 PM, Craig House wrote:
>
>> Somebody posted either on this list the other day or Facebook group that
>> they were looking for a 900 MHz filter. I was cleaning out one of our
>> warehouses today and found four of them if that person is on this list and
>> still interested please feel free to shoot me a message
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Steve Jones]

review your AP logs, you might be suprised

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> GPS pucks are perfectly reliable for us.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> packetflux is the only way to sync, everything else is garbage, GPS pucks
>> aren't reliable, CTMs and CMMs are a waste of money and are no where near
>> as versatile, cambium cant get their pucks to work, so I wouldn't trust
>> their little syncpipe knockoffs either. Ala-cart sync, switch agnostic, no
>> worries. Small sites you can split one injector to power and/or sync a mix
>> of voltages and pinouts, PLUS (this is a big thing) two Fridays ago, after
>> hours, had an issue with getting one working, got direct communication from
>> packetflux and got things going, good luck with that from cambium and their
>> new tiered support
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:54 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's not only the antenna. Newer 1000 boards and all 2k's have a
>>> GPS+GLONASS receiver. They also updated the 450AP a couple years ago with a
>>> revision that includes this receiver. GPS-only kinda always sucked. With
>>> GLONASS added, you have a lot more sats available, so the probability of
>>> maintaining lock is much, much better. I really wish Forrest would start
>>> using this in his pipes and boxes.
>>>
>>> Typically moving the antenna a few inches or a foot says there's some
>>> multipath going on. And sometimes the receivers just get confused and need
>>> a power-cycle. I have some SyncPipes on 1-foot stand-offs with another 300'
>>> of tower above them and rain will make them see no sats.
>>>
>>> What has worked better for me than anything else is a SyncInjector and
>>> pipe/box on the ground away from tower steel and lots of RF. Even then,
>>> those get confused sometimes too. Usually when I see really bad fading at
>>> night during the summer, I'll see that tracked sats will go from the normal
>>> 9-12 down to 5-7, but they rarely lose lock.
>>>
>>> Once upon a time, I had a SyncInjector and a pipe running in the server
>>> room for 4-5 days (because I forgot to run a cable outside for the pipe).
>>> It worked fine... until it rained.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2017 1:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>>
 When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's
 would keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs,
 everything just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random
 surface, and lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're
 getting out of Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and
 we're back to having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new
 antennas less sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was going
 from 12 satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked (still 20
 visible) at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches vertically,
 and now it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.

 Has something changed with the Antennas?

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Exchange Migration Consultant

[Steve Jones]

we used progent a few times for that, flawless

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

> Hey
>
> We are looking into migrating our Exchange Server to Exchange 365,
> although  we have the in-house tech guys to attack this feast, we prefer to
> outsource it and focus on all our tasks on hand.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

[AFMUG] Exchange Migration Consultant

[Gino A. Villarini]

Hey

We are looking into migrating our Exchange Server to Exchange 365, although  we 
have the in-house tech guys to attack this feast, we prefer to outsource it and 
focus on all our tasks on hand.

Any recommendations?



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti NFC-NVR over VPN

[Josh Luthman]

Ports opened/firewall?  The cameras have telnet still to verify.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Mike Gawlowski 
wrote:

> We have a central site with the NVR that tunnels out to three remote sites
> with Unifi cameras.  For some reason, the cameras say “not connected” when
> I input the IP of the remote NVR.  I verified that the remote networks can
> ping the NVR so this doesn’t seem like a networking issue.  Anybody have
> issues running this equipment over a VPN?
>
>
>
> *Thank you,*
>
> *Mike Gawlowski*
>
> *Triad Wireless, LLC*
>
>
>
> 4226 S. 37th St
>
> Phoenix, AZ 85040
>
> (602)-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>
>
> Triadwireless.net
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Josh Baird]

GPS pucks are perfectly reliable for us.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> packetflux is the only way to sync, everything else is garbage, GPS pucks
> aren't reliable, CTMs and CMMs are a waste of money and are no where near
> as versatile, cambium cant get their pucks to work, so I wouldn't trust
> their little syncpipe knockoffs either. Ala-cart sync, switch agnostic, no
> worries. Small sites you can split one injector to power and/or sync a mix
> of voltages and pinouts, PLUS (this is a big thing) two Fridays ago, after
> hours, had an issue with getting one working, got direct communication from
> packetflux and got things going, good luck with that from cambium and their
> new tiered support
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:54 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> It's not only the antenna. Newer 1000 boards and all 2k's have a
>> GPS+GLONASS receiver. They also updated the 450AP a couple years ago with a
>> revision that includes this receiver. GPS-only kinda always sucked. With
>> GLONASS added, you have a lot more sats available, so the probability of
>> maintaining lock is much, much better. I really wish Forrest would start
>> using this in his pipes and boxes.
>>
>> Typically moving the antenna a few inches or a foot says there's some
>> multipath going on. And sometimes the receivers just get confused and need
>> a power-cycle. I have some SyncPipes on 1-foot stand-offs with another 300'
>> of tower above them and rain will make them see no sats.
>>
>> What has worked better for me than anything else is a SyncInjector and
>> pipe/box on the ground away from tower steel and lots of RF. Even then,
>> those get confused sometimes too. Usually when I see really bad fading at
>> night during the summer, I'll see that tracked sats will go from the normal
>> 9-12 down to 5-7, but they rarely lose lock.
>>
>> Once upon a time, I had a SyncInjector and a pipe running in the server
>> room for 4-5 days (because I forgot to run a cable outside for the pipe).
>> It worked fine... until it rained.
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2017 1:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>>> When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's
>>> would keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs,
>>> everything just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random
>>> surface, and lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're
>>> getting out of Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and
>>> we're back to having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new
>>> antennas less sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was going
>>> from 12 satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked (still 20
>>> visible) at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches vertically,
>>> and now it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.
>>>
>>> Has something changed with the Antennas?
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 900 filter

[George Skorup]

I have two DCI rack-mount 900 filters from the WaveRider days. I think 
one is tuned for 911.2 and the other at 918.4. DCI can re-tune them for 
a nominal fee. These used to be on 1-7/8" heliax to 460 feet. Ah, the 
good ol days. OK, not so good.


On 7/26/2017 1:57 PM, Craig House wrote:

Somebody posted either on this list the other day or Facebook group that they 
were looking for a 900 MHz filter. I was cleaning out one of our warehouses 
today and found four of them if that person is on this list and still 
interested please feel free to shoot me a message

Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[George Skorup]

12-port DIN mount, 12-port DIN mount!

On 7/26/2017 2:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
packetflux is the only way to sync, everything else is garbage, GPS 
pucks aren't reliable, CTMs and CMMs are a waste of money and are no 
where near as versatile, cambium cant get their pucks to work, so I 
wouldn't trust their little syncpipe knockoffs either. Ala-cart sync, 
switch agnostic, no worries. Small sites you can split one injector to 
power and/or sync a mix of voltages and pinouts, PLUS (this is a big 
thing) two Fridays ago, after hours, had an issue with getting one 
working, got direct communication from packetflux and got things 
going, good luck with that from cambium and their new tiered support


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:54 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:


It's not only the antenna. Newer 1000 boards and all 2k's have a
GPS+GLONASS receiver. They also updated the 450AP a couple years
ago with a revision that includes this receiver. GPS-only kinda
always sucked. With GLONASS added, you have a lot more sats
available, so the probability of maintaining lock is much, much
better. I really wish Forrest would start using this in his pipes
and boxes.

Typically moving the antenna a few inches or a foot says there's
some multipath going on. And sometimes the receivers just get
confused and need a power-cycle. I have some SyncPipes on 1-foot
stand-offs with another 300' of tower above them and rain will
make them see no sats.

What has worked better for me than anything else is a SyncInjector
and pipe/box on the ground away from tower steel and lots of RF.
Even then, those get confused sometimes too. Usually when I see
really bad fading at night during the summer, I'll see that
tracked sats will go from the normal 9-12 down to 5-7, but they
rarely lose lock.

Once upon a time, I had a SyncInjector and a pipe running in the
server room for 4-5 days (because I forgot to run a cable outside
for the pipe). It worked fine... until it rained.


On 7/26/2017 1:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some
AP's would keep losing satellites.  Then after our first
couple installs, everything just Worked after that.  Slap the
GPS antenna on any random surface, and lots-o-satellites with
no issues.  Now the New AP's we're getting out of Distribution
have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and we're back to
having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new
antennas less sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs
was going from 12 satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0
Satellites tracked (still 20 visible) at random times.  We
moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches vertically, and now it has a
steady 17 satellites tracked.

Has something changed with the Antennas?

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Steve Jones]

packetflux is the only way to sync, everything else is garbage, GPS pucks
aren't reliable, CTMs and CMMs are a waste of money and are no where near
as versatile, cambium cant get their pucks to work, so I wouldn't trust
their little syncpipe knockoffs either. Ala-cart sync, switch agnostic, no
worries. Small sites you can split one injector to power and/or sync a mix
of voltages and pinouts, PLUS (this is a big thing) two Fridays ago, after
hours, had an issue with getting one working, got direct communication from
packetflux and got things going, good luck with that from cambium and their
new tiered support

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:54 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> It's not only the antenna. Newer 1000 boards and all 2k's have a
> GPS+GLONASS receiver. They also updated the 450AP a couple years ago with a
> revision that includes this receiver. GPS-only kinda always sucked. With
> GLONASS added, you have a lot more sats available, so the probability of
> maintaining lock is much, much better. I really wish Forrest would start
> using this in his pipes and boxes.
>
> Typically moving the antenna a few inches or a foot says there's some
> multipath going on. And sometimes the receivers just get confused and need
> a power-cycle. I have some SyncPipes on 1-foot stand-offs with another 300'
> of tower above them and rain will make them see no sats.
>
> What has worked better for me than anything else is a SyncInjector and
> pipe/box on the ground away from tower steel and lots of RF. Even then,
> those get confused sometimes too. Usually when I see really bad fading at
> night during the summer, I'll see that tracked sats will go from the normal
> 9-12 down to 5-7, but they rarely lose lock.
>
> Once upon a time, I had a SyncInjector and a pipe running in the server
> room for 4-5 days (because I forgot to run a cable outside for the pipe).
> It worked fine... until it rained.
>
>
> On 7/26/2017 1:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
>> When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's would
>> keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs, everything
>> just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random surface, and
>> lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're getting out of
>> Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and we're back to
>> having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new antennas less
>> sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was going from 12
>> satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked (still 20 visible)
>> at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches vertically, and now
>> it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.
>>
>> Has something changed with the Antennas?
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Ubiquiti NFC-NVR over VPN

[Mike Gawlowski]

We have a central site with the NVR that tunnels out to three remote sites with 
Unifi cameras.  For some reason, the cameras say "not connected" when I input 
the IP of the remote NVR.  I verified that the remote networks can ping the NVR 
so this doesn't seem like a networking issue.  Anybody have issues running this 
equipment over a VPN?

Thank you,
Mike Gawlowski
Triad Wireless, LLC

4226 S. 37th St
Phoenix, AZ 85040
(602)-426-0542
Triadwireless.net

[AFMUG] 900 filter

[Craig House]

Somebody posted either on this list the other day or Facebook group that they 
were looking for a 900 MHz filter. I was cleaning out one of our warehouses 
today and found four of them if that person is on this list and still 
interested please feel free to shoot me a message

Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[George Skorup]

It's not only the antenna. Newer 1000 boards and all 2k's have a 
GPS+GLONASS receiver. They also updated the 450AP a couple years ago 
with a revision that includes this receiver. GPS-only kinda always 
sucked. With GLONASS added, you have a lot more sats available, so the 
probability of maintaining lock is much, much better. I really wish 
Forrest would start using this in his pipes and boxes.


Typically moving the antenna a few inches or a foot says there's some 
multipath going on. And sometimes the receivers just get confused and 
need a power-cycle. I have some SyncPipes on 1-foot stand-offs with 
another 300' of tower above them and rain will make them see no sats.


What has worked better for me than anything else is a SyncInjector and 
pipe/box on the ground away from tower steel and lots of RF. Even then, 
those get confused sometimes too. Usually when I see really bad fading 
at night during the summer, I'll see that tracked sats will go from the 
normal 9-12 down to 5-7, but they rarely lose lock.


Once upon a time, I had a SyncInjector and a pipe running in the server 
room for 4-5 days (because I forgot to run a cable outside for the 
pipe). It worked fine... until it rained.


On 7/26/2017 1:31 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's 
would keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs, 
everything just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random 
surface, and lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're 
getting out of Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, 
and we're back to having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the 
new antennas less sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was 
going from 12 satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked 
(still 20 visible) at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 
inches vertically, and now it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.


Has something changed with the Antennas?

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Josh Luthman]

Screw that.  Rack Injector baby!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> we wholey gave up on them, its known to be an issue, everytime you reach
> out to cambium support, the treat you like we treat our customers (have you
> restarted your computer?) F that, they know the cause, just don't want to
> tell us. buy a hundred dollar site monitor and a 150 dollar syncinjector
> and be done with it, you get the ability to physically powercycle the
> radios which comes in handy when they go into board in reboot lockup. It
> will cost you more in sending staff to go play hockey with those pucks than
> to just eliminate the issue alltogether
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's would
>> keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs, everything
>> just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random surface, and
>> lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're getting out of
>> Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and we're back to
>> having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new antennas less
>> sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was going from 12
>> satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked (still 20 visible)
>> at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches vertically, and now
>> it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.
>>
>> Has something changed with the Antennas?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Steve Jones]

we wholey gave up on them, its known to be an issue, everytime you reach
out to cambium support, the treat you like we treat our customers (have you
restarted your computer?) F that, they know the cause, just don't want to
tell us. buy a hundred dollar site monitor and a 150 dollar syncinjector
and be done with it, you get the ability to physically powercycle the
radios which comes in handy when they go into board in reboot lockup. It
will cost you more in sending staff to go play hockey with those pucks than
to just eliminate the issue alltogether

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's would
> keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs, everything
> just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random surface, and
> lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're getting out of
> Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and we're back to
> having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new antennas less
> sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was going from 12
> satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked (still 20 visible)
> at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches vertically, and now
> it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.
>
> Has something changed with the Antennas?
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Josh Luthman]

They're both 1200-1600 MHz (ish) so I wonder if there is something fancy to
them?  Didn't get the cord get a lot longer?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's would
> keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs, everything
> just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random surface, and
> lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're getting out of
> Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and we're back to
> having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new antennas less
> sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was going from 12
> satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked (still 20 visible)
> at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches vertically, and now
> it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.
>
> Has something changed with the Antennas?
>

[AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

[Nate Burke]

When we first started using EPMP, (5ghz, with GPS) we had some AP's 
would keep losing satellites.  Then after our first couple installs, 
everything just Worked after that.  Slap the GPS antenna on any random 
surface, and lots-o-satellites with no issues.  Now the New AP's we're 
getting out of Distribution have the GLONASS label on the antennas, and 
we're back to having hit and miss GPS again at new sites.  Are the new 
antennas less sensitive?  At one location, 1 out of the 4 APs was going 
from 12 satellites tracked (20 visible) to 0 Satellites tracked (still 
20 visible) at random times.  We moved the GPS Puck about 4 inches 
vertically, and now it has a steady 17 satellites tracked.


Has something changed with the Antennas?

Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question

[George Skorup]

We've been demoing Calix ConsumerConnect+ and GigaCenter routers. It's 
not bad, especially on the fiber side. Might need a cost analysis for a 
typical WISP though.


On 7/26/2017 12:20 PM, Christopher Gray wrote:

To reply to the original question:

We use a few options:

*Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device 
depending on area)
*UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased 
outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device)
*Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access 
(leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area)


I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do 
have one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller 
login. With the R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, 
but I've only had one person ask about it. It is easy enough to 
re-provision the R200 that I'm not that concerned about people making 
their own changes on the limited accounts.




On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini > wrote:


We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms:

We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95
Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95

We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95
depending on the contract term.

We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management
and replacement.  Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt.  of the 3

There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's

From: Af > on
behalf of Harold Bledsoe >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com " >
Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM
To: "af@afmug.com " >
Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question

Hi folks,

For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do
you provision the devices?  And day 2, do you let the subscriber
make changes?

Thanks!
-Hal

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[George Skorup]

I'm confused. What's the application? We've done outdoor wifi solutions 
at gas stations before, but not near the pumps.


On 7/26/2017 1:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:

It is for WiFi.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:


Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i
stuff. Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be
using mobile devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.


On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

canopy 450i


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net
 > wrote:

Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
fueling station. Any recommendations?

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[can...@believewireless.net]

It is for WiFi.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i stuff.
> Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using mobile
> devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.
>
>
> On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> canopy 450i
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
>> station. Any recommendations?
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[George Skorup]

Yeah, there's the ATEX/HAZLOC certified versions of the 5GHz 450i stuff. 
Unless he was asking about wifi, but I don't think you'd be using mobile 
devices/laptops at fuel stations, or shouldn't be.


On 7/26/2017 12:42 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

canopy 450i


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
 > wrote:


Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas
fueling station. Any recommendations?

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Sean Heskett]

canopy 450i


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
> station. Any recommendations?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question

[Christopher Gray]

To reply to the original question:

We use a few options:

*Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device
depending on area)
*UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased
outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device)
*Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access (leased
for $9-$12 per device depending on area)

I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have
one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the
R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one
person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm
not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited
accounts.


--

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

> We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms:
>
> We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95
> Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95
>
> We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95
> depending on the contract term.
>
> We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and
> replacement.  Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt.  of the 3
>
> There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Harold Bledsoe <
> hbledso...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
>
> Hi folks,
>
> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you
> provision the devices?  And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes?
>
> Thanks!
> -Hal
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Lewis Bergman]

Not if there is sufficient line gauge to support the load and there is room
in the panel.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:58 AM Paul McCall  wrote:

> That’s what I was thinking, but I wanted others opinions.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install
>
>
>
> Less points of failure at the main, one less breaker, one less spot for
> some random dude to shut something off. 50 foot isn't all that far unless
> we are talking about boring through 50 foot of concrete, bonding your
> ground to the main rather than the sub panel means less chance of you
> shunting for the subpanel
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> Electrical opinions wanted.
>
>
>
> On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get to
> (but doable).
>
>
>
> There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest
> place, but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by
> my other threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out
> equipment box at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground,
> install panel protector , bond to the tower, etc.
>
>
>
> Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) vs a
> subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Managed Home Security

[Chris Wright]

Dovetailing with the managed WiFi thread, and since the market is receptive
to value-added services like VOIP and WiFi. what's anyone doing for managed
home security systems, cameras, etc.? I've looked at Novi and wasn't
impressed with their offerings. I love the UBNT cameras, but there's no
turnkey way to resell that I can see.

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

[Rory Conaway]

Haha, and this.  Unless of course you need software development and mobile app 
programmers in which case you don’t need to find them, they will find you.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

and congratulations from random IT guys in india for your work milestones.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
This.

On Jul 26, 2017 11:36 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
> wrote:
Wait for all the offers to join Boards of Directors from the companies that 
couldn't grow without your input.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

So, I'm mostly setup now except for my glamour shot.  What do I do now?

Chuck McCown wrote:
> Sure, it is a good place to put your best face on things.  You can do
> as much or little of a life history/resume as you want.
> To me it is like a nice rolodex of business contacts that updates
> itself.  Just last week I used it to track down a lawyer I have not
> talked to for about 10 years.  He has a new company but there is no
> contact info at all on their website!
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> Gotcha. I guess I should go make one too :) I have 5 jobs...can i list
> them all?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> To contact people in the business world.  If I don’t have an email
> or phone number for someone I can almost always find them there.
> Nice to keep tabs on acquaintances as they move from job to job too.
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> What do you use it for, Chuck?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:53 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> I use linkedin all the time.  I never use Facebook.
> Linked in is for boys, FB is for girls.
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 5:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> There are some very useful targeted usergroups there,
> responsive members tend to be pretty qualified on the specific
> group topic. That's the biggest benefit, though some of the
> people are real fanboy dicks on the group topic, so theres that.
> Its got a real good resume builder if youre looking to get out
> of the wisp business.
> the endorsements thing is kind of cool if youre looking for
> somebody to do some work, but anybody can endorse, so its kind
> of easily skewed
> for whatever reason, liz creekmore is always sitting in the
> people you may know page, shes not hard on the eyes, so theres
> that.
> Its not like facebook where vaguely associated people should
> be added, I accept any request, but barely add anybody unless
> there is content I want to view that they post about
> Its a really good place to find professionals for one off
> outsourced projects without having to go through some
> outsourcing companies sales glub
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Paul Stewart
> > wrote:
>
> I tried Premium for a while and didn't find it useful 
> I like LinkedIn though a lot 
> If you are job hunting then probably upgrading is worth it
> for a period of time 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mike Hammett
> > wrote:
>
>> If you don't know what you'd use it for at all, I would
>> probably shy away from paying for it.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Paul McCall]

That’s what I was thinking, but I wanted others opinions.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

Less points of failure at the main, one less breaker, one less spot for some 
random dude to shut something off. 50 foot isn't all that far unless we are 
talking about boring through 50 foot of concrete, bonding your ground to the 
main rather than the sub panel means less chance of you shunting for the 
subpanel

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall 
> wrote:
Electrical opinions wanted.

On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get to (but 
doable).

There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest place, 
but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by my other 
threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out equipment box 
at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground, install panel 
protector , bond to the tower, etc.

Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) vs a 
subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

[Steve Jones]

and congratulations from random IT guys in india for your work milestones.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Josh Reynolds 
wrote:

> This.
>
> On Jul 26, 2017 11:36 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
>> Wait for all the offers to join Boards of Directors from the companies
>> that couldn't grow without your input.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:02 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
>>
>> So, I'm mostly setup now except for my glamour shot.  What do I do now?
>>
>> Chuck McCown wrote:
>> > Sure, it is a good place to put your best face on things.  You can do
>> > as much or little of a life history/resume as you want.
>> > To me it is like a nice rolodex of business contacts that updates
>> > itself.  Just last week I used it to track down a lawyer I have not
>> > talked to for about 10 years.  He has a new company but there is no
>> > contact info at all on their website!
>> > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
>> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:00 PM
>> > *To:* af@afmug.com
>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
>> > Gotcha. I guess I should go make one too :) I have 5 jobs...can i list
>> > them all?
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > *From:* Chuck McCown
>> > *To:* af@afmug.com
>> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:46 PM
>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
>> > To contact people in the business world.  If I don’t have an email
>> > or phone number for someone I can almost always find them there.
>> > Nice to keep tabs on acquaintances as they move from job to job too.
>> > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
>> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:45 PM
>> > *To:* af@afmug.com
>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
>> > What do you use it for, Chuck?
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> > *To:* af@afmug.com
>> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:53 PM
>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
>> > I use linkedin all the time.  I never use Facebook.
>> > Linked in is for boys, FB is for girls.
>> > *From:* Steve Jones
>> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 5:49 PM
>> > *To:* af@afmug.com
>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
>> > There are some very useful targeted usergroups there,
>> > responsive members tend to be pretty qualified on the specific
>> > group topic. That's the biggest benefit, though some of the
>> > people are real fanboy dicks on the group topic, so theres that.
>> > Its got a real good resume builder if youre looking to get out
>> > of the wisp business.
>> > the endorsements thing is kind of cool if youre looking for
>> > somebody to do some work, but anybody can endorse, so its kind
>> > of easily skewed
>> > for whatever reason, liz creekmore is always sitting in the
>> > people you may know page, shes not hard on the eyes, so theres
>> > that.
>> > Its not like facebook where vaguely associated people should
>> > be added, I accept any request, but barely add anybody unless
>> > there is content I want to view that they post about
>> > Its a really good place to find professionals for one off
>> > outsourced projects without having to go through some
>> > outsourcing companies sales glub
>> > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Paul Stewart
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > I tried Premium for a while and didn't find it useful 
>> > I like LinkedIn though a lot 
>> > If you are job hunting then probably upgrading is worth it
>> > for a period of time 
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mike Hammett
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> If you don't know what you'd use it for at all, I would
>> >> probably shy away from paying for it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -
>> >> Mike Hammett
>> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> >> <
>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> >> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> >> > com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> >> The Brothers WISP 
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 

Re: [AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Steve Jones]

Less points of failure at the main, one less breaker, one less spot for
some random dude to shut something off. 50 foot isn't all that far unless
we are talking about boring through 50 foot of concrete, bonding your
ground to the main rather than the sub panel means less chance of you
shunting for the subpanel

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Electrical opinions wanted.
>
>
>
> On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get to
> (but doable).
>
>
>
> There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest
> place, but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by
> my other threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out
> equipment box at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground,
> install panel protector , bond to the tower, etc.
>
>
>
> Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) vs a
> subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

[Josh Reynolds]

This.

On Jul 26, 2017 11:36 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> Wait for all the offers to join Boards of Directors from the companies
> that couldn't grow without your input.
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:02 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
>
> So, I'm mostly setup now except for my glamour shot.  What do I do now?
>
> Chuck McCown wrote:
> > Sure, it is a good place to put your best face on things.  You can do
> > as much or little of a life history/resume as you want.
> > To me it is like a nice rolodex of business contacts that updates
> > itself.  Just last week I used it to track down a lawyer I have not
> > talked to for about 10 years.  He has a new company but there is no
> > contact info at all on their website!
> > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:00 PM
> > *To:* af@afmug.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> > Gotcha. I guess I should go make one too :) I have 5 jobs...can i list
> > them all?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > *From:* Chuck McCown
> > *To:* af@afmug.com
> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:46 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> > To contact people in the business world.  If I don’t have an email
> > or phone number for someone I can almost always find them there.
> > Nice to keep tabs on acquaintances as they move from job to job too.
> > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:45 PM
> > *To:* af@afmug.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> > What do you use it for, Chuck?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> > *To:* af@afmug.com
> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:53 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> > I use linkedin all the time.  I never use Facebook.
> > Linked in is for boys, FB is for girls.
> > *From:* Steve Jones
> > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 5:49 PM
> > *To:* af@afmug.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> > There are some very useful targeted usergroups there,
> > responsive members tend to be pretty qualified on the specific
> > group topic. That's the biggest benefit, though some of the
> > people are real fanboy dicks on the group topic, so theres that.
> > Its got a real good resume builder if youre looking to get out
> > of the wisp business.
> > the endorsements thing is kind of cool if youre looking for
> > somebody to do some work, but anybody can endorse, so its kind
> > of easily skewed
> > for whatever reason, liz creekmore is always sitting in the
> > people you may know page, shes not hard on the eyes, so theres
> > that.
> > Its not like facebook where vaguely associated people should
> > be added, I accept any request, but barely add anybody unless
> > there is content I want to view that they post about
> > Its a really good place to find professionals for one off
> > outsourced projects without having to go through some
> > outsourcing companies sales glub
> > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Paul Stewart
> >  wrote:
> >
> > I tried Premium for a while and didn't find it useful 
> > I like LinkedIn though a lot 
> > If you are job hunting then probably upgrading is worth it
> > for a period of time 
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mike Hammett
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> If you don't know what you'd use it for at all, I would
> >> probably shy away from paying for it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> >>  IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> >> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> >>  linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> twitter.com/mdwestix>
> >> The Brothers WISP 
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> --
> --
> >> *From: *"Jay Weekley" 
> >> *To: *af@afmug.com
> >> *Sent: *Monday, July 24, 2017 6:06:10 PM
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

[Rory Conaway]

Wait for all the offers to join Boards of Directors from the companies that 
couldn't grow without your input.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

So, I'm mostly setup now except for my glamour shot.  What do I do now?

Chuck McCown wrote:
> Sure, it is a good place to put your best face on things.  You can do 
> as much or little of a life history/resume as you want.
> To me it is like a nice rolodex of business contacts that updates 
> itself.  Just last week I used it to track down a lawyer I have not 
> talked to for about 10 years.  He has a new company but there is no 
> contact info at all on their website!
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> Gotcha. I guess I should go make one too :) I have 5 jobs...can i list 
> them all?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> To contact people in the business world.  If I don’t have an email
> or phone number for someone I can almost always find them there. 
> Nice to keep tabs on acquaintances as they move from job to job too.
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> What do you use it for, Chuck?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:53 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> I use linkedin all the time.  I never use Facebook.
> Linked in is for boys, FB is for girls.
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 5:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
> There are some very useful targeted usergroups there,
> responsive members tend to be pretty qualified on the specific
> group topic. That's the biggest benefit, though some of the
> people are real fanboy dicks on the group topic, so theres that.
> Its got a real good resume builder if youre looking to get out
> of the wisp business.
> the endorsements thing is kind of cool if youre looking for
> somebody to do some work, but anybody can endorse, so its kind
> of easily skewed
> for whatever reason, liz creekmore is always sitting in the
> people you may know page, shes not hard on the eyes, so theres
> that.
> Its not like facebook where vaguely associated people should
> be added, I accept any request, but barely add anybody unless
> there is content I want to view that they post about
> Its a really good place to find professionals for one off
> outsourced projects without having to go through some
> outsourcing companies sales glub
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Paul Stewart
>  wrote:
>
> I tried Premium for a while and didn't find it useful 
> I like LinkedIn though a lot 
> If you are job hunting then probably upgrading is worth it
> for a period of time 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mike Hammett
>  wrote:
>
>> If you don't know what you'd use it for at all, I would
>> probably shy away from paying for it.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From: *"Jay Weekley" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, July 24, 2017 6:06:10 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
>>
>> Is the premium account worth it?
>>
>> Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> > I agree 100%. It is by far the best business to
>> business and
>> > professional networking tool.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

[Jay Weekley]

So, I'm mostly setup now except for my glamour shot.  What do I do now?

Chuck McCown wrote:
Sure, it is a good place to put your best face on things.  You can do 
as much or little of a life history/resume as you want.
To me it is like a nice rolodex of business contacts that updates 
itself.  Just last week I used it to track down a lawyer I have not 
talked to for about 10 years.  He has a new company but there is no 
contact info at all on their website!

*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
*Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:00 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
Gotcha. I guess I should go make one too :)
I have 5 jobs...can i list them all?

- Original Message -
*From:* Chuck McCown
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 7:46 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
To contact people in the business world.  If I don’t have an email
or phone number for someone I can almost always find them there. 
Nice to keep tabs on acquaintances as they move from job to job too.

*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
*Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:45 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
What do you use it for, Chuck?

- Original Message -
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 6:53 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
I use linkedin all the time.  I never use Facebook.
Linked in is for boys, FB is for girls.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 5:49 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin
There are some very useful targeted usergroups there,
responsive members tend to be pretty qualified on the specific
group topic. That's the biggest benefit, though some of the
people are real fanboy dicks on the group topic, so theres that.
Its got a real good resume builder if youre looking to get out
of the wisp business.
the endorsements thing is kind of cool if youre looking for
somebody to do some work, but anybody can endorse, so its kind
of easily skewed
for whatever reason, liz creekmore is always sitting in the
people you may know page, shes not hard on the eyes, so theres
that.
Its not like facebook where vaguely associated people should
be added, I accept any request, but barely add anybody unless
there is content I want to view that they post about
Its a really good place to find professionals for one off
outsourced projects without having to go through some
outsourcing companies sales glub
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Paul Stewart
 wrote:

I tried Premium for a while and didn't find it useful 
I like LinkedIn though a lot 
If you are job hunting then probably upgrading is worth it
for a period of time 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mike Hammett
 wrote:


If you don't know what you'd use it for at all, I would
probably shy away from paying for it.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 






*From: *"Jay Weekley" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, July 24, 2017 6:06:10 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Linkedin

Is the premium account worth it?

Josh Reynolds wrote:
> I agree 100%. It is by far the best business to
business and
> professional networking tool.
>
> On Jul 24, 2017 6:02 PM, "Mike Hammett"  > wrote:
>
> It's certainly more useful in business than any other social
media.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
>Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 

[AFMUG] Choice on Power Panels at new install

[Paul McCall]

Electrical opinions wanted.

On a new tower, the main panel is 200ft. away and a harder run to get to (but 
doable).

There is a subpanel in a barn 150ft. away.  Often we go to the easiest place, 
but am taking a step back at all this kind of stuff (you can tell by my other 
threads).  Regardless, we are going to put our own panel at out equipment box 
at the base of the tower, drive our own electrical ground, install panel 
protector , bond to the tower, etc.

Is there a reason we would want to be on the main panel (more direct) vs a 
subpanel (one hop in the middle but closer) ??

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] DVB traffic over wireless

[Rory Conaway]

So it does need to be converted.  Thanks.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 8:27 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DVB traffic over wireless

We put in a siklu 60ghz link for a TV station who transports their dvb stream 
over it. Just need the right sdi boxes on both ends.

On Jul 26, 2017 10:25 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
> wrote:
Someone asked me if we could carry DVB or DVB-T traffic over wireless.  Is that 
standard IP traffic that can be carried over Layer 2 or is it something that 
can be converted at the head end and translated at the client side?

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“A hot dog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz.” — Humphrey Bogart

Re: [AFMUG] DVB traffic over wireless

[Adair Winter]

We put in a siklu 60ghz link for a TV station who transports their dvb
stream over it. Just need the right sdi boxes on both ends.

On Jul 26, 2017 10:25 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> Someone asked me if we could carry DVB or DVB-T traffic over wireless.  Is
> that standard IP traffic that can be carried over Layer 2 or is it
> something that can be converted at the head end and translated at the
> client side?
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> *“A hot dog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz.”* — Humphrey Bogart
>
>
>

[AFMUG] DVB traffic over wireless

[Rory Conaway]

Someone asked me if we could carry DVB or DVB-T traffic over wireless.  Is that 
standard IP traffic that can be carried over Layer 2 or is it something that 
can be converted at the head end and translated at the client side?

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"A hot dog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz." - Humphrey Bogart

Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Eric Muehleisen]

Moxa has an IP68 rating I believe.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:24 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
> station. Any recommendations?
>

Re: [AFMUG] WISPAPALOOZA2017 and other misc chat

[Josh Baird]

Or you just use the native app which supports multiple Slack groups.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> So if you're in say Powercode and WISP slack, you need two tabs...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> I also thought it was cool that it recognized that I had installed the
>> app, and sent me an email that it had disabled email notifications, so as
>> to avoid being notified double.  Smart stuff is cool.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, and you can change it on a per channel basis. You can also have
>>> different notifications for different channels (or mute) and you can
>>> have different settings between desktop/mobile.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>> > I like it!  I had to change notification settings to only when I
>>> receive a
>>> > direct message, am mentioned, or a "watched hashtag" comes up.but
>>> other
>>> > than that it seems pretty cool.  At first I thought my network had gone
>>> > bezerk, because my pocket vibrated like thirty times in a one minute
>>> span
>>> > while I was too busy to look at my phone.  Nope, just people BSing
>>> about
>>> > whatever.  I don't necessarily need notifications for that.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Matt Hoppes
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> /leave
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Slack had been around for a few years at most, and may be getting
>>> >> purchased by Amazon  for a few billion if I remember right.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jul 25, 2017 3:18 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Slack is like ICQ.  More features but a paint and it's not used as
>>> much
>>> >>> as others (Google, Skype).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Trillian would connect to all three.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Josh Luthman
>>> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> >>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> >>> Suite 1337
>>> >>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Yes, it is kinda link trillian, but a bit more flexible and sort of
>>> a
>>>  step up :)
>>> 
>>>  Faisal Imtiaz
>>>  Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>  7266 SW 48 Street
>>>  Miami, FL 33155
>>>  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>> 
>>>  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  From: "Steve Jones" 
>>>  To: af@afmug.com
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:14:13 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPAPALOOZA2017 and other misc chat
>>> 
>>>  forgive my failure as a penrod here, but what is slack, people keep
>>>  saying join this slack channel and that. Is it a group instant
>>> messenger or
>>>  what. I went too look at it but the pictures just look like trillian
>>> 
>>>  On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Josh Baird 
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > engineeredonline.slack.com
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Larry Smith 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hmm, ok, got signed in via browser, but trying to do setup
>>> >> on phone app (iphone, slack app) and it is asking for the
>>> >> URL of the channel to join
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Larry Smith
>>> >> lesm...@ecsis.net
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun July 23 2017 18:18, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> >> > If anybody is interested, there is a slack channel for
>>> >> > WISPAPALOOZA2017 setup in our slack group. I just added the
>>> link.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Go to http://blog.engineered.online , there is a link to
>>> request an
>>> >> > invite on the right side of the page (or on the bottom if on
>>> >> > mobile).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > There's other channels there too... isp/wisp, networking, linux,
>>> >> > general, maybe a channel to talk about tecate and guinness,
>>> might
>>> >> > add
>>> >> > one for the McGregor v Mayweather fight, etc.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Join if your interested. If not, ignore this email :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > PS - You can have different notifications between the app / web
>>> link
>>> >> > vs mobile, so your phone doesn't vibrate all day. You can also
>>> >> > customize notifications to where you don't vibrate or hear any
>>> >> > sounds
>>> >> > but still get a popup.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> 
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WISPAPALOOZA2017 and other misc chat

[Josh Luthman]

So if you're in say Powercode and WISP slack, you need two tabs...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I also thought it was cool that it recognized that I had installed the
> app, and sent me an email that it had disabled email notifications, so as
> to avoid being notified double.  Smart stuff is cool.
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, and you can change it on a per channel basis. You can also have
>> different notifications for different channels (or mute) and you can
>> have different settings between desktop/mobile.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>> > I like it!  I had to change notification settings to only when I
>> receive a
>> > direct message, am mentioned, or a "watched hashtag" comes up.but
>> other
>> > than that it seems pretty cool.  At first I thought my network had gone
>> > bezerk, because my pocket vibrated like thirty times in a one minute
>> span
>> > while I was too busy to look at my phone.  Nope, just people BSing about
>> > whatever.  I don't necessarily need notifications for that.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Matt Hoppes
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> /leave
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Slack had been around for a few years at most, and may be getting
>> >> purchased by Amazon  for a few billion if I remember right.
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 25, 2017 3:18 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Slack is like ICQ.  More features but a paint and it's not used as
>> much
>> >>> as others (Google, Skype).
>> >>>
>> >>> Trillian would connect to all three.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Josh Luthman
>> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> >>> 1100 Wayne St
>> >>> Suite 1337
>> >>> Troy, OH 45373
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>> fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Yes, it is kinda link trillian, but a bit more flexible and sort of a
>>  step up :)
>> 
>>  Faisal Imtiaz
>>  Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>  7266 SW 48 Street
>>  Miami, FL 33155
>>  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> 
>>  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  From: "Steve Jones" 
>>  To: af@afmug.com
>>  Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:14:13 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPAPALOOZA2017 and other misc chat
>> 
>>  forgive my failure as a penrod here, but what is slack, people keep
>>  saying join this slack channel and that. Is it a group instant
>> messenger or
>>  what. I went too look at it but the pictures just look like trillian
>> 
>>  On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Josh Baird 
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > engineeredonline.slack.com
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Larry Smith 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hmm, ok, got signed in via browser, but trying to do setup
>> >> on phone app (iphone, slack app) and it is asking for the
>> >> URL of the channel to join
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Larry Smith
>> >> lesm...@ecsis.net
>> >>
>> >> On Sun July 23 2017 18:18, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >> > If anybody is interested, there is a slack channel for
>> >> > WISPAPALOOZA2017 setup in our slack group. I just added the link.
>> >> >
>> >> > Go to http://blog.engineered.online , there is a link to
>> request an
>> >> > invite on the right side of the page (or on the bottom if on
>> >> > mobile).
>> >> >
>> >> > There's other channels there too... isp/wisp, networking, linux,
>> >> > general, maybe a channel to talk about tecate and guinness, might
>> >> > add
>> >> > one for the McGregor v Mayweather fight, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Join if your interested. If not, ignore this email :)
>> >> >
>> >> > PS - You can have different notifications between the app / web
>> link
>> >> > vs mobile, so your phone doesn't vibrate all day. You can also
>> >> > customize notifications to where you don't vibrate or hear any
>> >> > sounds
>> >> > but still get a popup.
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question

[Gino A. Villarini]

We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms:

We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95
Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95

We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 depending on 
the contract term.

We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and 
replacement.  Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt.  of the 3

There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's

From: Af > on behalf of 
Harold Bledsoe >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question

Hi folks,

For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you 
provision the devices?  And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes?

Thanks!
-Hal



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[Jaime Solorza]

Look for intrinsic radios...Moxa is on source


Jaime Solorza

On Jul 26, 2017 8:24 AM, "can...@believewireless.net" <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
> station. Any recommendations?
>

[AFMUG] Explosion Proof Access Point

[can...@believewireless.net]

Looking for an explosion proof access point for a natural gas fueling
station. Any recommendations?

[AFMUG] Who's your favorite small business customer?

[Ray Savich]

We just completed a case study sharing Skywerx' (Colorado WISP) customer Pagosa 
Springs Animal 
Shelter.
 This story builds awareness of the animal shelter and Skywerx as an operator - 
and it cost nothing to either of them. Do you have a star small business 
customer who you feel is doing an important function in the community (using 
Cambium equipment) that you would like to highlight (and get some free PR)? 
Contact me at 
ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com and we 
will work up a case study.

In the mean time, check our Skywerx' story and consider adopting a puppy or 
kitten.

Ray


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