Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[George Skorup]

I'm down for buying a handful whenever you decide to make something.

Output from the RackInjector management port and/or a dedicated device 
could be extremely useful. Hmm. How about ieee1588v2 PTP? That would be 
cool.


On 9/6/2017 10:34 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
My rough draft here is a USB-serial interface with an isolated DC-DC 
converter and a isolated usb-serial interface, so you are at least 
mostly electrically and opto isolated from the SBJ.   Plug into a USB 
and then power the SBJT.   So USB to a small box, then cat5 to the 
SBJ.  This is a small enough and fun project that it will probably 
just happen and fairly quickly - I need a few of these after the 
nightmare of the rackinjector (think of it as a working vacation).


I've also had on the todo a NTP all in one appliance, probably in the 
SBJ or SB12 box.   That same code would make it into the rackinjector 
and any followon similar products. There are quite a few things ahead 
of it on the roadmap though...


On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:45 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:


Apparently there are USB sticks that are basically a GPS receiver
and a PL2303 for $30-40. So you get the date/time. Cool. Then they
take the 1PPS output to blink a f***ing LED. Really!? I was
reading some blogs where folks have opened them up and wired a
super tiny jumper from 1PPS to DCD. That was about 5-6 years ago
using older SiRF receivers, too. Meh.

A GPS+GLONASS SBJ basic and USB kit would be pretty cool. Could
the USB interface also power the box, up to say 20-25 feet? The
other thing is, all of the machines I'm working with have a serial
port. So maybe just skip the USB altogether?

I was thinking, maybe take the daisy-chain output from a
SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector since those switch the
pipe/box to NMEA anyway, but I don't think I'd want a path from
the tower-mounted gear to server(s). And other funky stuff like
noise making it into the timing for the radios would be ungood.

On 9/6/2017 2:10 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

I could tell you how to wire a syncbox junior up to a usb port if
you'd like.  Requires a TTL level usb to serial cable.

I'd you wait a month or so until the gps+glonass version is out
it well even speak nmea.  Heck,  now I think about this it might
make a good product  syncbox basic plus a USB dongle.

On Sep 5, 2017 8:19 PM, "George Skorup" > wrote:

I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network
doing various tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers,
switches, etc. I've been having some issues with
us.pool.ntp.org  lately. I switched
to time-(a,b,c,d).nist.gov . Apparently
those are pretty busy.

So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been
reading, I guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that
exist in a simple USB package? That would be ideal,
preferably with an SMA female for an external antenna where
needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm finding on
Amazon has PPS output.






--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com 
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

My rough draft here is a USB-serial interface with an isolated DC-DC
converter and a isolated usb-serial interface, so you are at least mostly
electrically and opto isolated from the SBJ.   Plug into a USB and then
power the SBJT.   So USB to a small box, then cat5 to the SBJ.  This is a
small enough and fun project that it will probably just happen and fairly
quickly - I need a few of these after the nightmare of the rackinjector
(think of it as a working vacation).

I've also had on the todo a NTP all in one appliance, probably in the SBJ
or SB12 box.   That same code would make it into the rackinjector and any
followon similar products.   There are quite a few things ahead of it on
the roadmap though...

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:45 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Apparently there are USB sticks that are basically a GPS receiver and a
> PL2303 for $30-40. So you get the date/time. Cool. Then they take the 1PPS
> output to blink a f***ing LED. Really!? I was reading some blogs where
> folks have opened them up and wired a super tiny jumper from 1PPS to DCD.
> That was about 5-6 years ago using older SiRF receivers, too. Meh.
>
> A GPS+GLONASS SBJ basic and USB kit would be pretty cool. Could the USB
> interface also power the box, up to say 20-25 feet? The other thing is, all
> of the machines I'm working with have a serial port. So maybe just skip the
> USB altogether?
>
> I was thinking, maybe take the daisy-chain output from a
> SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector since those switch the pipe/box
> to NMEA anyway, but I don't think I'd want a path from the tower-mounted
> gear to server(s). And other funky stuff like noise making it into the
> timing for the radios would be ungood.
>
> On 9/6/2017 2:10 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> I could tell you how to wire a syncbox junior up to a usb port if you'd
> like.  Requires a TTL level usb to serial cable.
>
> I'd you wait a month or so until the gps+glonass version is out it well
> even speak nmea.  Heck,  now I think about this it might make a good
> product  syncbox basic plus a USB dongle.
>
> On Sep 5, 2017 8:19 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
>> I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various
>> tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been having
>> some issues with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched to time-(a,b,c,d).
>> nist.gov. Apparently those are pretty busy.
>>
>> So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I
>> guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB
>> package? That would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an external
>> antenna where needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm finding on
>> Amazon has PPS output.
>>
>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Justin Wilson]

http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-NTP.html 

Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

www.mtin.net
www.midwest-ix.com

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> I know that Brian at Baltic built a bunch of custom MT-based setups for one 
> of his customers that came with a USB GPS receiver that output NEMA that the 
> MT could read.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>   
>  
>  
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>   
>  
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> From: "George Skorup"  >
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 3:45:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP
> 
> Apparently there are USB sticks that are basically a GPS receiver and a 
> PL2303 for $30-40. So you get the date/time. Cool. Then they take the 1PPS 
> output to blink a f***ing LED. Really!? I was reading some blogs where folks 
> have opened them up and wired a super tiny jumper from 1PPS to DCD. That was 
> about 5-6 years ago using older SiRF receivers, too. Meh.
> 
> A GPS+GLONASS SBJ basic and USB kit would be pretty cool. Could the USB 
> interface also power the box, up to say 20-25 feet? The other thing is, all 
> of the machines I'm working with have a serial port. So maybe just skip the 
> USB altogether?
> 
> I was thinking, maybe take the daisy-chain output from a 
> SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector since those switch the pipe/box to 
> NMEA anyway, but I don't think I'd want a path from the tower-mounted gear to 
> server(s). And other funky stuff like noise making it into the timing for the 
> radios would be ungood.
> 
> On 9/6/2017 2:10 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
> I could tell you how to wire a syncbox junior up to a usb port if you'd like. 
>  Requires a TTL level usb to serial cable. 
> 
> I'd you wait a month or so until the gps+glonass version is out it well even 
> speak nmea.  Heck,  now I think about this it might make a good product  
> syncbox basic plus a USB dongle.
> 
> On Sep 5, 2017 8:19 PM, "George Skorup"  > wrote:
> I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various 
> tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been having 
> some issues with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched 
> to time-(a,b,c,d).nist.gov . Apparently those are pretty 
> busy.
> 
> So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I 
> guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB 
> package? That would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an external 
> antenna where needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm finding on Amazon 
> has PPS output.

Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective battery charging and monitoring device

[Charles Regan]

But if you have the correct ohm resistance of the shunt? Your monitoring
device should have a setting for that?
With the ohm reading, it should be pretty accurate.

I'm using one of those shunt (150A 20$) on my electric bike and I get the
same amp draw reading on my fluke meter. Max I draw is 65A or 4kW so that's
higher than most wisp battery backup system. That's my fuel gauge so it
needs to be pretty accurate.

Here's the meter I use on my bike , no network connection but serial data
output and the monitoring of amp, watts, voltage and AH used is there.


www.ebikes.ca/product-info/cycle-analyst.html



Le mar. 5 sept. 2017 à 18:53, Chuck McCown  a écrit :

> The higher the amperage the shunt, the less precision you get from the
> system.
>
> *From:* Charles Regan
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2017 3:52 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective battery charging and monitoring
> device
> Why just change the shunt for one like this? That's a 600A shunt. 45$
>
> Deltec 600A Ammeter Shunt
> http://www.electricmotorsport.com/deltec-600a-ammeter-shunt.html
>
> Le mer. 30 août 2017 à 14:29, George Skorup  a
> écrit :
>
>> Yeah, about that. I wouldn't use those on 12VDC systems. Too much
>> current. I've burned up a couple of the 10A shunts on Traco BCMUs that were
>> running around 200W load on battery. 200/13 = 15 amps. Ungood. One site at
>> about 225W, first time it went to battery, the shunt went kaput after 10-15
>> minutes and the site went down.
>>
>> I'm hoping Forrest comes up with some Hall effect stuff or even plain 20+
>> amp shunts that can be used on the SiteMonitor's existing 100mv input. Hall
>> effect is nice because you don't have to be "in" the circuit. But I'll take
>> what I can get.
>>
>>
>> On 8/30/2017 10:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, up to 10 amp.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Chuck McCown" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 8/30/2017 11:18:36 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective battery charging and monitoring device
>>
>>
>> I think Forrest has them on his site with the site monitors.
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 30, 2017 9:15 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective battery charging and monitoring
>> device
>>
>> Parallel. Site Monitor! Now where can I get a shunt?
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> 4 batts in series or parallel?
>>> Shunt + sitemonitor would be a better way to go and you don’t have to
>>> write code.
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 30, 2017 9:06 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cost effective battery charging and monitoring device
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> I am getting away from using APC at a couple of our sites and right now
>>> I have installed a Tripp-Lite APS750 connected to 4 Deep cycle marine
>>> batteries for a total of 404 aH system. I'd like to be able to monitor the
>>> discharge rate of the batteries when power is out remotely. What have you
>>> guys been doing to that effect?
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a Pi and a shunt and some quick scripting classes on Python
>>> to put it all together...
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <%28575%29%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[George Skorup]

If your vacation/time off includes regular work... you might be a WISP.

/Jeff Foxworthy

On 9/6/2017 8:11 PM, Charles Regan wrote:

I'll gladly help if anyone needs a hand.
I do have bunch airmiles and standby airplane tickets to used.

Let me know I'll take two weeks off anytime.

Charles

Le mer. 6 sept. 2017 à 08:29, Paul McCall > a écrit :


I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need
extra personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We
have 38 towers across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have
prepared as best we can.  We have been down this road before and
it is not fun.

It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our
customers will be significantly impacted.

If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two
afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed
warmly and treated very well.

Paul

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Charles Regan]

I'll gladly help if anyone needs a hand.
I do have bunch airmiles and standby airplane tickets to used.

Let me know I'll take two weeks off anytime.

Charles

Le mer. 6 sept. 2017 à 08:29, Paul McCall  a écrit :

> I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
> personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers
> across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.
> We have been down this road before and it is not fun.
>
>
>
> It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers
> will be significantly impacted.
>
>
>
> If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two
> afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly
> and treated very well.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Justin Wilson]

Many insurance companies will pay for contractors. I have been in several 
after-storm operations as either a network, communications, or tower climber.  
My bill was paid by the insurance company ultimately.  Sometimes I had to send 
an invoice, which I told the client that I could wait until the insurance 
company paid them.  I only do this with folks I trust.   I have also done 
insurance quotes ahead of time for an insurance claim.  Insurance companies 
have some leeway in disaster areas, especially when it comes to communication.

I was on one job we had to clear 3/4 of a mile of nothing but debris to get to 
a tower.  Insurance company paid extra to have 3 bulldozers clear a path for us 
to get there.  Was kinda cool riding on one pushing stuff out of the way. Felt 
powerful. That gig was paid for by the insurance company.  We had to jump 
through hoops to be on a list, but they worked with us.  The important part, at 
least for them, was getting the insured back to work.


Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

www.mtin.net
www.midwest-ix.com

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:
> 
> Cool breezes !..
> 
> I know your moto Jaime .. Have Tecate, Will Work ! :)  Some nice buttrotios 
> and ropa beahia  with roasted jalapenos !
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 7:05:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida
> Not me...I am tropical anal mist.  
> 
> On Sep 6, 2017 4:01 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  > wrote:
> I would think so at the end of the day we are all commercial entities..
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518  Option 2 or Email: 
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> From: "Steve Jones"  >
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:08:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida
> that's actually a pretty fair question to ask
> 
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Sterling Jacobson  > wrote:
> I don’t have employees, but I do have a very good contractor that might be 
> able to help out.
> 
>  
> I would miss him terribly for a week or two, and I don’t think he can afford 
> to volunteer.
> 
>  
> Seems dumb to ask, but would there be compensation for contractors by chance?
> 
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Paul McCall
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:30 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida
> 
>  
> I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra 
> personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers 
> across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.  We 
> have been down this road before and it is not fun.
> 
>  
> It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers will 
> be significantly impacted.
> 
>  
> If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two 
> afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly and 
> treated very well.
> 
>  
> Paul
> 
>  
> Paul McCall, President
> 
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
> 
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> 
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 
> 772-564-6800  
> 
> pa...@pdmnet.net 
> www.pdmnet.com 
> www.floridabroadband.com 
>  
>  
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Cool breezes !.. 

I know your moto Jaime .. Have Tecate, Will Work ! :) Some nice buttrotios and 
ropa beahia with roasted jalapenos ! 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 7:05:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

> Not me...I am tropical anal mist.

> On Sep 6, 2017 4:01 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote:

>> I would think so at the end of the day we are all commercial entities..

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Steve Jones" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:08:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

>>> that's actually a pretty fair question to ask

>>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net >
>>> wrote:

 I don’t have employees, but I do have a very good contractor that might be 
 able
 to help out.

 I would miss him terribly for a week or two, and I don’t think he can 
 afford to
 volunteer.

 Seems dumb to ask, but would there be compensation for contractors by 
 chance?

 From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
 Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:30 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

 I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
 personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes. We have 38 towers
 across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can. 
 We
 have been down this road before and it is not fun.

 It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers 
 will be
 significantly impacted.

 If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two 
 afterwards,
 it would be greatly appreciated they will be welcomed warmly and treated 
 very
 well.

 Paul

 Paul McCall, President

 PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800

 pa...@pdmnet.net

 www.pdmnet.com

 www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Jaime Solorza]

Not me...I am tropical anal mist.

On Sep 6, 2017 4:01 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:

> I would think so at the end of the day we are all commercial entities..
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:08:09 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida
>
> that's actually a pretty fair question to ask
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
>> I don’t have employees, but I do have a very good contractor that might
>> be able to help out.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would miss him terribly for a week or two, and I don’t think he can
>> afford to volunteer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Seems dumb to ask, but would there be compensation for contractors by
>> chance?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:30 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida
>>
>>
>>
>> I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
>> personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers
>> across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.
>> We have been down this road before and it is not fun.
>>
>>
>>
>> It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers
>> will be significantly impacted.
>>
>>
>>
>> If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two
>> afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly
>> and treated very well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Faisal Imtiaz]

I would think so at the end of the day we are all commercial entities.. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:08:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

> that's actually a pretty fair question to ask

> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net >
> wrote:

>> I don’t have employees, but I do have a very good contractor that might be 
>> able
>> to help out.

>> I would miss him terribly for a week or two, and I don’t think he can afford 
>> to
>> volunteer.

>> Seems dumb to ask, but would there be compensation for contractors by chance?

>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:30 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

>> I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
>> personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes. We have 38 towers
>> across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can. We
>> have been down this road before and it is not fun.

>> It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers 
>> will be
>> significantly impacted.

>> If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two 
>> afterwards,
>> it would be greatly appreciated they will be welcomed warmly and treated very
>> well.

>> Paul

>> Paul McCall, President

>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

>> 658 Old Dixie Highway

>> Vero Beach, FL 32962

>> 772-564-6800

>> pa...@pdmnet.net

>> www.pdmnet.com

>> www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Mike Hammett]

I know that Brian at Baltic built a bunch of custom MT-based setups for one of 
his customers that came with a USB GPS receiver that output NEMA that the MT 
could read. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "George Skorup"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 3:45:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP 

Apparently there are USB sticks that are basically a GPS receiver and a PL2303 
for $30-40. So you get the date/time. Cool. Then they take the 1PPS output to 
blink a f***ing LED. Really!? I was reading some blogs where folks have opened 
them up and wired a super tiny jumper from 1PPS to DCD. That was about 5-6 
years ago using older SiRF receivers, too. Meh. 

A GPS+GLONASS SBJ basic and USB kit would be pretty cool. Could the USB 
interface also power the box, up to say 20-25 feet? The other thing is, all of 
the machines I'm working with have a serial port. So maybe just skip the USB 
altogether? 

I was thinking, maybe take the daisy-chain output from a 
SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector since those switch the pipe/box to NMEA 
anyway, but I don't think I'd want a path from the tower-mounted gear to 
server(s). And other funky stuff like noise making it into the timing for the 
radios would be ungood. 


On 9/6/2017 2:10 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: 



I could tell you how to wire a syncbox junior up to a usb port if you'd like. 
Requires a TTL level usb to serial cable. 


I'd you wait a month or so until the gps+glonass version is out it well even 
speak nmea. Heck, now I think about this it might make a good product 
syncbox basic plus a USB dongle. 


On Sep 5, 2017 8:19 PM, "George Skorup" < george.sko...@cbcast.com > wrote: 


I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various tasks, 
one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been having some issues 
with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched to time-(a,b,c,d). nist.gov . 
Apparently those are pretty busy. 

So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I guess 
I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB package? That 
would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an external antenna where 
needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm finding on Amazon has PPS output. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT:Sun Unleashes Monster Solar Flare, Strongest in a Decade

[Steve Jones]

freakin global warming

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> The end is nigh, repent!! Lol
>
> https://www.space.com/38057-sun-unleashes-decades-
> strongest-solar-flare.html?utm_source=notification
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[George Skorup]

Apparently there are USB sticks that are basically a GPS receiver and a 
PL2303 for $30-40. So you get the date/time. Cool. Then they take the 
1PPS output to blink a f***ing LED. Really!? I was reading some blogs 
where folks have opened them up and wired a super tiny jumper from 1PPS 
to DCD. That was about 5-6 years ago using older SiRF receivers, too. Meh.


A GPS+GLONASS SBJ basic and USB kit would be pretty cool. Could the USB 
interface also power the box, up to say 20-25 feet? The other thing is, 
all of the machines I'm working with have a serial port. So maybe just 
skip the USB altogether?


I was thinking, maybe take the daisy-chain output from a 
SyncInjector/PowerInjector/RackInjector since those switch the pipe/box 
to NMEA anyway, but I don't think I'd want a path from the tower-mounted 
gear to server(s). And other funky stuff like noise making it into the 
timing for the radios would be ungood.


On 9/6/2017 2:10 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I could tell you how to wire a syncbox junior up to a usb port if 
you'd like.  Requires a TTL level usb to serial cable.


I'd you wait a month or so until the gps+glonass version is out it 
well even speak nmea.  Heck,  now I think about this it might make a 
good product  syncbox basic plus a USB dongle.


On Sep 5, 2017 8:19 PM, "George Skorup" > wrote:


I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing
various tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc.
I've been having some issues with us.pool.ntp.org
 lately. I switched to
time-(a,b,c,d).nist.gov . Apparently those are
pretty busy.

So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been
reading, I guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist
in a simple USB package? That would be ideal, preferably with an
SMA female for an external antenna where needed. Looks like none
of the cheap shit I'm finding on Amazon has PPS output.

[AFMUG] OT:Sun Unleashes Monster Solar Flare, Strongest in a Decade

[Jaime Solorza]

The end is nigh, repent!! Lol

https://www.space.com/38057-sun-unleashes-decades-strongest-solar-flare.html?utm_source=notification

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Robert Haas]

As matter of fact I picked up a raspberrypi + gps receiver last week to start 
building a strat-1 ntp server for my network. My plan is to build 1-2 of these 
and use them to feed a couple of traditional servers that the rest of the 
equipment poll's.

This is what I ordered:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C6EQNNK
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B010Q57SEE
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I6LZW4O

Haven't had the time to actually put it together yet though, but there are 
plenty of resources available online on how to get it working.




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 9:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various tasks, 
one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been having some issues 
with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched to time-(a,b,c,d).nist.gov. Apparently 
those are pretty busy.

So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I guess 
I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB package? That 
would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an external antenna where 
needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm finding on Amazon has PPS output.

[AFMUG] GigE POE APC - A history

[Chuck McCown]

My rack mount GIGE - Power Inserter continues to grow in sales volume.  I am
grateful for all of you that use the product.
I had to do some sleuthing to figure out a change that cured an anomaly for
some people.  Here is a brief chronology of the product.

Rev A had SMT jacks and a diode bridge steering circuit.  4-8-2015

Rev B had SMT Jacks, discrete diode steering, improved POE noise clamping
circuit and less signal loading.   4-28-2016

Rev C was cosmetic changes that eliminated the need for some post
production work. 4-25-2017

Rev D has through hole jacks with improved performance, improved return
loss, improved NEXT parameters, improved BS Termination 7-22-2017
(I had to apologize to my production people for making them go back to a two
step soldering process, but the improvement was worth it).

And then there is a Rev E coming soon with incremental improvement to return
loss and NEXT and PS-NEXT.  (not yet released)


Two customers have found that the Rev A may cause flapping on some equipment
but Rev B eliminates the flapping.

I will be happy to replace any Rev A boards where the customer is 
experiencing

CRC errors or flapping.

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Matt]

I just have a Mikrotik as NTP server and have it use time.apple.com or
time.google.com as a parent.

If you have an old canopy CMM it has a GPS receiver and can act as NTP server.

Re: [AFMUG] Ah dudes

[Steve Jones]

I hang a sharpie on poly line with gorilla tape in every enclosure. you can
always put  a label over a sharpie note, you cant always figure out easily
what that random cable is after the fact.

of course that's also how we have "write cuss words here" on some backboard
in enclosures

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> I’m always temped to write sharpie on things, but then I think to myself,
> what would the AFMUG group think of me?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 10:22 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ah dudes
>
>
>
> We pride ourselves on clean install and labelingfound this
> today...instead of asking us for labels they used a sharpie... ugh
>

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Steve Jones]

that's actually a pretty fair question to ask

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> I don’t have employees, but I do have a very good contractor that might be
> able to help out.
>
>
>
> I would miss him terribly for a week or two, and I don’t think he can
> afford to volunteer.
>
>
>
> Seems dumb to ask, but would there be compensation for contractors by
> chance?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida
>
>
>
> I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
> personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers
> across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.
> We have been down this road before and it is not fun.
>
>
>
> It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers
> will be significantly impacted.
>
>
>
> If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two
> afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly
> and treated very well.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Sterling Jacobson]

I don't have employees, but I do have a very good contractor that might be able 
to help out.

I would miss him terribly for a week or two, and I don't think he can afford to 
volunteer.

Seems dumb to ask, but would there be compensation for contractors by chance?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra 
personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers 
across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.  We 
have been down this road before and it is not fun.

It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers will 
be significantly impacted.

If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two afterwards, 
it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly and treated very 
well.

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Ah dudes

[Sterling Jacobson]

I’m always temped to write sharpie on things, but then I think to myself, what 
would the AFMUG group think of me?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 10:22 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ah dudes

We pride ourselves on clean install and labelingfound this today...instead 
of asking us for labels they used a sharpie... ugh

Re: [AFMUG] Ah dudes

[Adam Moffett]

At least they have good hand writing.


-- Original Message --
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 9/6/2017 12:22:08 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Ah dudes

We pride ourselves on clean install and labelingfound this 
today...instead of asking us for labels they used a sharpie... ugh

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Yes, the "Shock and Awe" along with Public Relations opportunity... 
But don't forget or underestimate the Boondoggle that gets turned on with the 
Declaration of State of Emergency by the Gov. 

It is a shame but that is how it is the Un-checked Coffers have been 
opened, access to the unquestioned slush funds.. ! 

As for WECAT, I believe they make sure that everything that is done counts and 
provides a direct benefit and nothing goes to waste. 

As far as learning goes, that is every continuing.. each disaster is unique and 
there is always something to learn that could be done better. 

:) 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 12:36:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

> I know its not a funny situation, but scott just announce Comcast is opening 
> all
> kinds of wifi hotspots, I LOLed, they cant keep good service to customers on a
> good day, and now theyre going to do this post hurricane I can stand
> vultures, this is a photo op. But I hope it goes well.

> The governor is preparing like a boss. I'm not a big fan of draining 
> reservoirs,
> but its a gamble worth taking. hopefully the storm turns and just causes rain
> that refills the reservoirs with fresh water, the fishies will appreciate it
> and next year will have amazing fishing.

> The competitive preparedness this storm season is how things should be. Texas
> had a 10billion dollar honeypot and the federal staging was tops. FL is trying
> to be one better. This is awesome to see. There will be a lot of resource 
> bloat
> and waste in the preparations, that's fine, its how we learn for the future.
> The reactionary model to disaster has historically failed, its about time weve
> become a proactive disaster mitigation nation.

> Even here we are seeing the still young WECAT getting word out on how to seek
> assistance. Phones coverage being set up ahead of time. grid damage
> circumvention. This is glorious (awful in regard to the storm, glorious in
> regard to the level of preparedness)

> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
> wrote:

>> We have a lot of used Tire Tubes (the ones used be the Cubans ) ... we put
>> people on those and push them in the direction of PR..

>> ! :)

>> On a serious note... at certain point in time (based on wind velocity) the
>> airports shut down, and batten the hatches..
>> once the storm passes, all facilities are checked for damage and the recovery
>> work begins to bring them back on line.

>> Airports, highways, etc etc are considered to be high priority locations to 
>> get
>> back into service conditions.

>> If a critical facility such as an airport is lost, then the Feds / step in 
>> with
>> resource to bring them back to operational status asap.

>> It is nice to have the offer of help, but keep in mind, Life and sustenance 
>> are
>> first priority, communications comes after that.
>> Besides, when it comes to internet, yes, we need to get things back into
>> operational status asap, but it would not make much difference if the 
>> end-users
>> were not able to make use of that internet for one reason or another..

>> So.. all in due strides and appropriate time frames.. . this is not a 100m
>> dash.. more a marathon that can last a few weeks to a few months !

>> :)

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 11:28:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

>>> How would people get to PR? Can you still fly in after the storm?

>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373

>>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > 
>>> wrote:

 Paul, I second your plea. We have gear in over 120 towers and 100 
 rooftops… lots
 work to de done. We are expecting Irma tonight…

 We don’t disconnect gear

 From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Paul McCall < 
 pa...@pdmnet.net >
 Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
 Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 7:29 AM
 To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
 Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

 I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
 personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes. We have 38 towers
 across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can. 
 We
 have been down this road before and it is not fun.

 It 

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Steve Jones]

I know its not a funny situation, but scott just announce Comcast is
opening all kinds of wifi hotspots, I LOLed, they cant keep good service to
customers on a good day, and now theyre going to do this post hurricane
I can stand vultures, this is a photo op. But I hope it goes well.

The governor is preparing like a boss. I'm not a big fan of draining
reservoirs,  but its a gamble worth taking. hopefully the storm turns and
just causes rain that refills the reservoirs with fresh water, the fishies
will appreciate it and next year will have amazing fishing.

The competitive preparedness this storm season is how things should be.
Texas had a 10billion dollar honeypot and the federal staging was tops. FL
is trying to be one better. This is awesome to see. There will be a lot of
resource bloat and waste in the preparations, that's fine, its how we learn
for the future. The reactionary model to disaster has historically failed,
its about time weve become a proactive disaster mitigation nation.

Even here we are seeing the still young WECAT getting word out on how to
seek assistance. Phones coverage being set up ahead of time. grid damage
circumvention. This is glorious (awful in regard to the storm, glorious in
regard to the level of preparedness)

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> We have a lot of used Tire Tubes (the ones used be the Cubans ) ... we put
> people on those and push them in the direction of PR..
>
> ! :)
>
>
> On a serious note... at certain point in time (based on wind velocity) the
> airports shut down, and batten the hatches..
> once the storm passes, all facilities are checked for damage and the
> recovery work begins to bring them back on line.
>
> Airports, highways, etc etc are considered to be high priority locations
> to get back into service conditions.
>
> If a critical facility such as an airport is lost, then the Feds / step in
> with resource to bring them back to operational status asap.
>
> It is nice to have the offer of help, but keep in mind, Life and
> sustenance are first priority, communications comes after that.
> Besides, when it comes to internet, yes, we need to get things back into
> operational status asap, but it would not make much difference if the
> end-users were not able to make use of that internet for one reason or
> another..
>
> So.. all in due strides and appropriate time frames.. . this is not a 100m
> dash.. more a marathon that can last a few weeks to a few months !
>
> :)
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 6, 2017 11:28:51 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida
>
> How would people get to PR?  Can you still fly in after the storm?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>> Paul, I second your plea.  We have gear in over 120 towers and 100
>> rooftops… lots work to de done.  We are expecting Irma tonight…
>>
>> We don’t disconnect gear
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Paul McCall <
>> pa...@pdmnet.net>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 7:29 AM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida
>>
>> I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
>> personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers
>> across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.
>> We have been down this road before and it is not fun.
>>
>>
>>
>> It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers
>> will be significantly impacted.
>>
>>
>>
>> If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two
>> afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly
>> and treated very well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ah dudes

[Chuck McCown]

Well at least they were not tied to a screw with bailing wire.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:22 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ah dudes

We pride ourselves on clean install and labelingfound this today...instead 
of asking us for labels they used a sharpie... ugh

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Josh Reynolds]

That's called "Android".

On Sep 6, 2017 10:15 AM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

> there used to be a wardriving rig with a serial gps puck that put time
> from gps into the map plotter, don't know how accurate it was, id assume
> pretty accurate
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Jesse Dupont <
> jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
>
>> How about the Veracity TimeNet Pro? More money than a Pi/BBB with GPS
>> receiver, but probably way simpler.
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Af  on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>> af...@ics-il.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:11:17 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the one I looked at used the GPS receiver in the cell
>> modem to supply the time vs. CDMA.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"George Skorup" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 6, 2017 12:28:30 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP
>>
>> Well, yeah, you can do CDMA for clock sync, too.
>>
>> I've seen Arduino and Pi add-on cards that contain a GPS receiver and you
>> basically feed the 1PPS via GPIO or something like that. I don't really
>> want to go there.
>>
>> I'll keep looking around and see what I can find for standard-ish PC
>> hardware.
>>
>> On 9/5/2017 9:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>> USB cell modem?
>>
>>
>> I've asked all of our GPS capable vendors to provide this on the radio.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"George Skorup" 
>> 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 5, 2017 9:19:28 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] GPS'd NTP
>>
>> I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various
>> tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been
>> having some issues with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched to
>> time-(a,b,c,d).nist.gov. Apparently those are pretty busy.
>>
>> So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I
>> guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB
>> package? That would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an
>> external antenna where needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm
>> finding on Amazon has PPS output.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Faisal Imtiaz]

We have a lot of used Tire Tubes (the ones used be the Cubans ) ... we put 
people on those and push them in the direction of PR.. 

! :) 

On a serious note... at certain point in time (based on wind velocity) the 
airports shut down, and batten the hatches.. 
once the storm passes, all facilities are checked for damage and the recovery 
work begins to bring them back on line. 

Airports, highways, etc etc are considered to be high priority locations to get 
back into service conditions. 

If a critical facility such as an airport is lost, then the Feds / step in with 
resource to bring them back to operational status asap. 

It is nice to have the offer of help, but keep in mind, Life and sustenance are 
first priority, communications comes after that. 
Besides, when it comes to internet, yes, we need to get things back into 
operational status asap, but it would not make much difference if the end-users 
were not able to make use of that internet for one reason or another.. 

So.. all in due strides and appropriate time frames.. . this is not a 100m 
dash.. more a marathon that can last a few weeks to a few months ! 

:) 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 11:28:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

> How would people get to PR? Can you still fly in after the storm?

> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > 
> wrote:

>> Paul, I second your plea. We have gear in over 120 towers and 100 rooftops… 
>> lots
>> work to de done. We are expecting Irma tonight…

>> We don’t disconnect gear

>> From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Paul McCall < 
>> pa...@pdmnet.net >
>> Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
>> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 7:29 AM
>> To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

>> I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
>> personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes. We have 38 towers
>> across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can. We
>> have been down this road before and it is not fun.

>> It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers 
>> will be
>> significantly impacted.

>> If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two 
>> afterwards,
>> it would be greatly appreciated they will be welcomed warmly and treated very
>> well.

>> Paul

>> Paul McCall, President

>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

>> 658 Old Dixie Highway

>> Vero Beach, FL 32962

>> 772-564-6800

>> pa...@pdmnet.net

>> www.pdmnet.com

>> www.floridabroadband.com

>> Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] ChromeBook

[Josh Luthman]

Tik-App works flawlessly the last few months.  Everything loads up great.

My only complain is the icon gets repeated a dozen or two times on a sub
menu (why have an icon?)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Mikro Winbox
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.birkot.mikrowinbox.pro
>
> works well for my purposes (mainly rebooting my home mokrotik and changing
> the encryption)
>
> but all the menus appear to be there
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> You mean the Tik-App thing?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I run a winbox version on android
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2017 5:33 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>>
 Chromebooks (and Chromebox) are essentially a browser-based device. Not
 really intended to keep very muchon the box itself. Most things are
 expected to be in the cloud.

 That said, the newer ones ca run Android apps.So you should be able to
 run SSH and other stuff just like your Android phone. There are also a few
 hacks to run Linux, or even windows.

 Would be really cool if there was a version  of winbox that could run
 on Android/Chromebook.

 -bp

 On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

> It's browser only, and they only recently implemented offline app mode.
>
> There is ssh. USB Ethernet dongles work, but make sure the dongle
> chipset is supported.
>
> You can also run Linux on them via sdcard.
>
> On Sep 5, 2017 4:49 PM, "Matt"  wrote:
>
>> Anyone using a Chromebook?  I got an ASUS chromebook to try.  The 16G
>> of flash seems quite limiting.  Thought I would be able to get apps
>> for things like SSH, Dropbox and etc.  Thought it would be like
>> Android phone of sorts.  Seems like everything only works in browser
>> though.
>>
>> Anyone else using one?  How is it working out?
>>
>


 --
 --
 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I can offer our office staff to take some of your calls in the days after.
Let me know if we can help ; we'd need to set this up before hand.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Reichhart 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 10:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida


  Gino and Paul
  be safe down there praying for you guys hopefully Jose just stays out to see 
after Irma hits.

  Tim









-Original Message-
From: "Gino A. Villarini" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 09/06/17 11:07
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida


Paul, I second your plea.  We have gear in over 120 towers and 100 
rooftops… lots work to de done.  We are expecting Irma tonight… 


We don't disconnect gear


From: Af  on behalf of Paul McCall 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 7:29 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

Re: [AFMUG] ChromeBook

[Steve Jones]

Mikro Winbox
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.birkot.mikrowinbox.pro

works well for my purposes (mainly rebooting my home mokrotik and changing
the encryption)

but all the menus appear to be there

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> You mean the Tik-App thing?
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> I run a winbox version on android
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2017 5:33 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>
>>> Chromebooks (and Chromebox) are essentially a browser-based device. Not
>>> really intended to keep very muchon the box itself. Most things are
>>> expected to be in the cloud.
>>>
>>> That said, the newer ones ca run Android apps.So you should be able to
>>> run SSH and other stuff just like your Android phone. There are also a few
>>> hacks to run Linux, or even windows.
>>>
>>> Would be really cool if there was a version  of winbox that could run on
>>> Android/Chromebook.
>>>
>>> -bp
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It's browser only, and they only recently implemented offline app mode.

 There is ssh. USB Ethernet dongles work, but make sure the dongle
 chipset is supported.

 You can also run Linux on them via sdcard.

 On Sep 5, 2017 4:49 PM, "Matt"  wrote:

> Anyone using a Chromebook?  I got an ASUS chromebook to try.  The 16G
> of flash seems quite limiting.  Thought I would be able to get apps
> for things like SSH, Dropbox and etc.  Thought it would be like
> Android phone of sorts.  Seems like everything only works in browser
> though.
>
> Anyone else using one?  How is it working out?
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> bp
>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Steve Jones]

there used to be a wardriving rig with a serial gps puck that put time from
gps into the map plotter, don't know how accurate it was, id assume pretty
accurate

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Jesse Dupont 
wrote:

> How about the Veracity TimeNet Pro? More money than a Pi/BBB with GPS
> receiver, but probably way simpler.
>
> --
> *From:* Af  on behalf of Mike Hammett <
> af...@ics-il.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:11:17 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP
>
> I'm pretty sure the one I looked at used the GPS receiver in the cell
> modem to supply the time vs. CDMA.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"George Skorup" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 6, 2017 12:28:30 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP
>
> Well, yeah, you can do CDMA for clock sync, too.
>
> I've seen Arduino and Pi add-on cards that contain a GPS receiver and you
> basically feed the 1PPS via GPIO or something like that. I don't really
> want to go there.
>
> I'll keep looking around and see what I can find for standard-ish PC
> hardware.
>
> On 9/5/2017 9:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> USB cell modem?
>
>
> I've asked all of our GPS capable vendors to provide this on the radio.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"George Skorup" 
> 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 5, 2017 9:19:28 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] GPS'd NTP
>
> I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various
> tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been
> having some issues with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched to
> time-(a,b,c,d).nist.gov. Apparently those are pretty busy.
>
> So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I
> guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB
> package? That would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an
> external antenna where needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm
> finding on Amazon has PPS output.
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Tim Reichhart]

Gino and Paul
be safe down there praying for you guys hopefully Jose just stays out to see 
after Irma hits.

Tim



 

-Original Message-
From: "Gino A. Villarini" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 09/06/17 11:07
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida


Paul, I second your plea.  We have gear in over 120 towers and 100 rooftops… 
lots work to de done.  We are expecting Irma tonight…


We don't disconnect gear


From: Af  on behalf of Paul McCall 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 7:29 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida




I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra 
personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers 
across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.  We 
have been down this road before and it is not fun.

 

It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers will 
be significantly impacted.

 

If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two afterwards, 
it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly and treated very 
well.

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 

pa...@pdmnet.net

www.pdmnet.com

www.floridabroadband.com

 

 




 
 

Gino A. Villarini

 President
 Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Brian Webster]

As the President of WECAT if any WISP will require help after the storm
passes please either fill out this form, or have a neighboring WISP fill it
out for you and get it to me. WECAT will help coordinate resources. Also
anyone who wished to volunteer please fill out the form attached.  If
stricken areas it will be important to get a reliable method of
communication and central point of contact. WISP's expecting to get hit
please make a communications plan to coordinate resources if you think they
will be needed, preferably one that is outside the area that you as a
business owner can funnel information through.

 

 

Really hoping this turns in to a non-event but it's not looking good.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster - President WECAT

214 Eggleston Hill Rd.

Cooperstown, NY 13326

(607) 643-4055 Office

(607) 435-3988 Mobile

(208) 692-1898 Fax
Skype: Radiowebst

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

 

I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers
across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.
We have been down this road before and it is not fun.

 

It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers
will be significantly impacted.

 

If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two
afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly
and treated very well.

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800  

pa...@pdmnet.net

www.pdmnet.com

www.floridabroadband.com

 

 



WECAT NEED ASSEMENT.PDF
Description: Adobe PDF document


WECAT VOLUNTEER.PDF
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Gino A. Villarini]

Paul, I second your plea.  We have gear in over 120 towers and 100 rooftops… 
lots work to de done.  We are expecting Irma tonight…

We don’t disconnect gear

From: Af > on behalf of Paul 
McCall >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 7:29 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra 
personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers 
across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.  We 
have been down this road before and it is not fun.

It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers will 
be significantly impacted.

If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two afterwards, 
it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly and treated very 
well.

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com





Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Josh Luthman]

In 2004 how much alignment did you have to deal with?  We typically get
0-30 mph winds and when Ike came through in 2008 we got 80 mph winds and
lost (IIRC) 0 devices, just power.  With you getting 80 mph and now
suddenly getting 180+ I wonder if you'll get a ton more or none at all.

Hopefully the climbers ate their wheaties when they tightened down those
dishes.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Yes, we have a coordinated physical disconnect from the power grid (and
> pull the fuse on the batteries.  We have utilize locals to help on the
> non-commercial towers (and a few of the commercial ones… hh) .
>
>
>
> We advise customers to unplug all their gear and that we will be doing the
> coordinated shutdown, etc.
>
>
>
> So, in theory after the storm, it starts with re-alignments of tower BHs’s
> from the inside outwards and dealing with any wind damage. Praying we don’t
> have actual towers down.
>
>
>
> So, yes, those are great suggestions that we have implemented since the
> first major hurricane we had in 2004.  Customers are pretty understanding.
>
>
>
> But, we will of course, have a lot of customers with misc. issues, from
> dead radios / routers because they didn’t unplug it, or misalignments or
> wire damage where something came loose and rubbed on something else for
> hours, or enough for water to get in.  Those kind of things take a lot of
> the recovery effort.  Its just a lot to cover with normal staff.
>
>
>
> Everyone’s Internet has become s important (in most cases
> legitimately) that after 3 or 4 days customers start being very vocal, some
> wanting to cancel etc.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida
>
>
>
> Wondering if you shut off to all your equipment and physically remove the
> power from the grid where possible if it will help? Obviously there is the
> wind damage, but I would think minimizing any strikes or power surges could
> save a lot of headache after. Let your customers a couple hours before
> landfall, the network will start going offline from south to north and then
> come up in that direction as soon as the storm is over. I know it is a lot
> of area to cover, but it might save your ass.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
> personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers
> across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.
> We have been down this road before and it is not fun.
>
>
>
> It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers
> will be significantly impacted.
>
>
>
> If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two
> afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly
> and treated very well.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ChromeBook

[Mathew Howard]

You mean the Tik-App thing?

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> I run a winbox version on android
>
> On Sep 5, 2017 5:33 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> Chromebooks (and Chromebox) are essentially a browser-based device. Not
>> really intended to keep very muchon the box itself. Most things are
>> expected to be in the cloud.
>>
>> That said, the newer ones ca run Android apps.So you should be able to
>> run SSH and other stuff just like your Android phone. There are also a few
>> hacks to run Linux, or even windows.
>>
>> Would be really cool if there was a version  of winbox that could run on
>> Android/Chromebook.
>>
>> -bp
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's browser only, and they only recently implemented offline app mode.
>>>
>>> There is ssh. USB Ethernet dongles work, but make sure the dongle
>>> chipset is supported.
>>>
>>> You can also run Linux on them via sdcard.
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2017 4:49 PM, "Matt"  wrote:
>>>
 Anyone using a Chromebook?  I got an ASUS chromebook to try.  The 16G
 of flash seems quite limiting.  Thought I would be able to get apps
 for things like SSH, Dropbox and etc.  Thought it would be like
 Android phone of sorts.  Seems like everything only works in browser
 though.

 Anyone else using one?  How is it working out?

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> bp
>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Paul McCall]

Yes, we have a coordinated physical disconnect from the power grid (and pull 
the fuse on the batteries.  We have utilize locals to help on the 
non-commercial towers (and a few of the commercial ones… hh) .

We advise customers to unplug all their gear and that we will be doing the 
coordinated shutdown, etc.

So, in theory after the storm, it starts with re-alignments of tower BHs’s from 
the inside outwards and dealing with any wind damage. Praying we don’t have 
actual towers down.

So, yes, those are great suggestions that we have implemented since the first 
major hurricane we had in 2004.  Customers are pretty understanding.

But, we will of course, have a lot of customers with misc. issues, from dead 
radios / routers because they didn’t unplug it, or misalignments or wire damage 
where something came loose and rubbed on something else for hours, or enough 
for water to get in.  Those kind of things take a lot of the recovery effort.  
Its just a lot to cover with normal staff.

Everyone’s Internet has become s important (in most cases legitimately) 
that after 3 or 4 days customers start being very vocal, some wanting to cancel 
etc.

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

Wondering if you shut off to all your equipment and physically remove the power 
from the grid where possible if it will help? Obviously there is the wind 
damage, but I would think minimizing any strikes or power surges could save a 
lot of headache after. Let your customers a couple hours before landfall, the 
network will start going offline from south to north and then come up in that 
direction as soon as the storm is over. I know it is a lot of area to cover, 
but it might save your ass.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Paul McCall 
> wrote:
I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra 
personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers 
across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.  We 
have been down this road before and it is not fun.

It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers will 
be significantly impacted.

If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two afterwards, 
it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly and treated very 
well.

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Cameron Crum]

Wondering if you shut off to all your equipment and physically remove the
power from the grid where possible if it will help? Obviously there is the
wind damage, but I would think minimizing any strikes or power surges could
save a lot of headache after. Let your customers a couple hours before
landfall, the network will start going offline from south to north and then
come up in that direction as soon as the storm is over. I know it is a lot
of area to cover, but it might save your ass.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra
> personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers
> across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.
> We have been down this road before and it is not fun.
>
>
>
> It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers
> will be significantly impacted.
>
>
>
> If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two
> afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly
> and treated very well.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Jesse Dupont]

How about the Veracity TimeNet Pro? More money than a Pi/BBB with GPS receiver, 
but probably way simpler.


From: Af  on behalf of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:11:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

I'm pretty sure the one I looked at used the GPS receiver in the cell modem to 
supply the time vs. CDMA.



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From: "George Skorup" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 12:28:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

Well, yeah, you can do CDMA for clock sync, too.

I've seen Arduino and Pi add-on cards that contain a GPS receiver and you 
basically feed the 1PPS via GPIO or something like that. I don't really want to 
go there.

I'll keep looking around and see what I can find for standard-ish PC hardware.

On 9/5/2017 9:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
USB cell modem?


I've asked all of our GPS capable vendors to provide this on the radio.



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From: "George Skorup" 

To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 9:19:28 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various
tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been
having some issues with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched to
time-(a,b,c,d).nist.gov. Apparently those are pretty busy.

So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I
guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB
package? That would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an
external antenna where needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm
finding on Amazon has PPS output.

[AFMUG] Storm recovery in Florida

[Paul McCall]

I know I speak for myself and Gino, that we both will likely need extra 
personnel to recovery from Irma after the storm passes.  We have 38 towers 
across 4 counties in SouthEast Florida, and have prepared as best we can.  We 
have been down this road before and it is not fun.

It looks like regardless of the direct track of the storm, our customers will 
be significantly impacted.

If there is anyone who can spare a good employee for a week or two afterwards, 
it would be greatly appreciated  they will be welcomed warmly and treated very 
well.

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Mike Hammett]

I'm pretty sure the one I looked at used the GPS receiver in the cell modem to 
supply the time vs. CDMA. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "George Skorup"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 12:28:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP 

Well, yeah, you can do CDMA for clock sync, too. 

I've seen Arduino and Pi add-on cards that contain a GPS receiver and you 
basically feed the 1PPS via GPIO or something like that. I don't really want to 
go there. 

I'll keep looking around and see what I can find for standard-ish PC hardware. 


On 9/5/2017 9:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



USB cell modem? 


I've asked all of our GPS capable vendors to provide this on the radio. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "George Skorup"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 9:19:28 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP 

I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various 
tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been 
having some issues with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched to 
time-(a,b,c,d).nist.gov. Apparently those are pretty busy. 

So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I 
guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB 
package? That would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an 
external antenna where needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm 
finding on Amazon has PPS output. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

[Gino A. Villarini]

Ohh the feds know… we are under Federal  Fiscal Board control…

From: Af > on behalf of Steve 
Jones >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 8:32 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

Maybe you dont tell the feds, maybe yous tell the feds you had the best 
powergrid and get fema dough to rebuild some nice infrastructure




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Sep 5, 2017 7:27 PM, "Gino A. Villarini" 
> wrote:
Well.  The process is to ride the storm… Lucky for us, 90% of all structures 
are full concrete, so they’ll withstands the winds no problem.  Lots of folks 
either have storm resistant windows or use storm shutters.  For those that do 
not live in a secure home or are close to the coast line, the government uses 
school buildings are refuge.

The big issue its going to be the power grid, 90% is aerial and the local power 
company is in its worst economic position in its existence. (broke).  Last big 
hurricanes (Hugo 89 and Georges 98) it took up to 4 months to restore power in 
some areas!

From: Af > on behalf of Steve 
Jones >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 5:03 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

I dont know how island life works, like if there were transport vessels into 
the us mainland. I dont know how evacuations actually work, I am one who would 
not evacuate short of a visible mushroom cloud.
what do they do with regular people type people that arent prepared down there?




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:
Camp under the aracebo antenna.

From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 2:22 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

They just need to hollow out a mountain to hide in.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
Go into your undersea shelter.

From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 2:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

On an island I suppose you just have to batten the hatches and hold on to your 
hat.


-- Original Message --
From: "Gino A. Villarini" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 9/5/2017 4:07:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

Evacuations? Where to?

We fall under FEMA

From: Af  on behalf of Steve Jones 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 1:44 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

Is PR running evacuations or anything? I dont know much about their elevations 
or anything, but its looking pretty grim.  Are they under the FEMA umbrella as 
a territory?




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[X]

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 12:31 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
Holy shit. 200MPH wind ain't nothin to fux with.

On 9/5/2017 10:03 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Have you considered heading to the US mainland? :(

On Sep 5, 2017 10:01 AM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:
Gusts up to 216 mph…  this does not look good

From: Af  on behalf of Paul McCall 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 9:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

We are all praying…

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 11:06 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

Prayers headed their way..




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[X]

On Sep 4, 2017 9:03 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
I'm sure Gino and Mike in PR and VI are prepping. Stay safe down there guys!

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I could tell you how to wire a syncbox junior up to a usb port if you'd
like.  Requires a TTL level usb to serial cable.

I'd you wait a month or so until the gps+glonass version is out it well
even speak nmea.  Heck,  now I think about this it might make a good
product  syncbox basic plus a USB dongle.

On Sep 5, 2017 8:19 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various
> tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been having
> some issues with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched to time-(a,b,c,d).
> nist.gov. Apparently those are pretty busy.
>
> So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I
> guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB
> package? That would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an external
> antenna where needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm finding on
> Amazon has PPS output.
>