date:20171009

[AFMUG] Project Loon - Gino?

2017-10-09 Thread Andreas Wiatowski

Looks like project loon is about to be deployed over Puerto Rico.  They say a 
special order and the co-operation of cell operators were obtained to deploy.

Things seem to be extremely bad in PR…I hope things are looking up for Gino. 
Does anyone know if he received his rebuild gear yet??

https://www.mobileworldlive.com/featured-content/top-three/project-loon-heads-to-hurricane-battered-puerto-rico/?ID=00Qw015wxP4EAI&BU=


Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
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Re: [AFMUG] Project Loon - Gino?

2017-10-09 Thread Andreas Wiatowski

Sorry for the repeat mail.   ;.>

Cheers,

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From: Af  on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Monday, October 9, 2017 at 6:24 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Project Loon - Gino?

Looks like project loon is about to be deployed over Puerto Rico.  They say a 
special order and the co-operation of cell operators were obtained to deploy.

Things seem to be extremely bad in PR…I hope things are looking up for Gino. 
Does anyone know if he received his rebuild gear yet??

https://www.mobileworldlive.com/featured-content/top-three/project-loon-heads-to-hurricane-battered-puerto-rico/?ID=00Qw015wxP4EAI&BU=


Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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[AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

2017-10-09 Thread Christopher Tyler

So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?

Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to 
saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it blind 
to the actual, real-world link capabilities?

Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data entry 
and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for determining 
the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I have to run a 
link test to determine the link speed for every link, then that is going to be 
a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I have to do that even 
once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I was finished doing them 
all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the links even close to being 
accurate. That would require a full-time employee just to handle that single 
task.

I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need something 
that works.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

2017-10-09 Thread Mike Hammett

I'm working on some NetXMS templates that would monitor and alert on link 
utilization... throughput divided by MAC capacity (or PHY divided by X). 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Christopher Tyler"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:12:47 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring 

So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links? 

Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to 
saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it blind 
to the actual, real-world link capabilities? 

Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data entry 
and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for determining 
the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I have to run a 
link test to determine the link speed for every link, then that is going to be 
a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I have to do that even 
once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I was finished doing them 
all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the links even close to being 
accurate. That would require a full-time employee just to handle that single 
task. 

I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need something 
that works. 

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

Re: [AFMUG] Tracking tracking numbers

2017-10-09 Thread Christopher Tyler

web.parcelapp.net fits my needs, I'm sure there are others that are even beter. 
I just chose parcel because it turned up in my search on my Phone and it has an 
iPhone and a Mac desktop app as well as a website.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 3:26:07 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Tracking tracking numbers

Does anyone have a webapp/Chrome extension/something that I can throw
tracking numbers in and keep a log of?  Ideally it would show a list of
them that are yet to arrive, possibly ones with issues, and then a long
term history of them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Tracking tracking numbers

2017-10-09 Thread Josh Reynolds

Ups has a thing for that. I bet FedEx has too.

On Oct 6, 2017 3:26 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Does anyone have a webapp/Chrome extension/something that I can throw
> tracking numbers in and keep a log of?  Ideally it would show a list of
> them that are yet to arrive, possibly ones with issues, and then a long
> term history of them.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tracking tracking numbers

2017-10-09 Thread Christopher Tyler

Most of the generic (non carrier) apps do all of the services, not just their 
own. ie, UPS only tracks UPS, same with FedEx. Parcel and the like will track 
everyone that they can, even Chinese and other foreign posts.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Josh Reynolds" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:24:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tracking tracking numbers

Ups has a thing for that. I bet FedEx has too.

On Oct 6, 2017 3:26 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Does anyone have a webapp/Chrome extension/something that I can throw
> tracking numbers in and keep a log of?  Ideally it would show a list of
> them that are yet to arrive, possibly ones with issues, and then a long
> term history of them.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

2017-10-09 Thread Adair Winter

The do this with grafana, it's pulling link capacity and looks at
throughput, if it gets with in 90% we get an alert in slack

On Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM, "Christopher Tyler" 
wrote:

> So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?
>
> Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to
> saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it
> blind to the actual, real-world link capabilities?
>
> Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data
> entry and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for
> determining the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I
> have to run a link test to determine the link speed for every link, then
> that is going to be a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I
> have to do that even once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I
> was finished doing them all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the
> links even close to being accurate. That would require a full-time employee
> just to handle that single task.
>
> I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need
> something that works.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

2017-10-09 Thread Steve Jones

powercode "does" this with snmp, but requires too much work to get the
right graphs and alerts set up

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Adair Winter 
wrote:

> The do this with grafana, it's pulling link capacity and looks at
> throughput, if it gets with in 90% we get an alert in slack
>
> On Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM, "Christopher Tyler" 
> wrote:
>
>> So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?
>>
>> Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to
>> saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it
>> blind to the actual, real-world link capabilities?
>>
>> Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data
>> entry and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for
>> determining the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I
>> have to run a link test to determine the link speed for every link, then
>> that is going to be a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I
>> have to do that even once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I
>> was finished doing them all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the
>> links even close to being accurate. That would require a full-time employee
>> just to handle that single task.
>>
>> I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need
>> something that works.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Tyler
>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>> 417.851.1107
>>
>>

[AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs

2017-10-09 Thread Sam Lambie

Hey all,
Someone a few weeks ago posted a cool looking linux based network graphing
tool. I can't find that thread.

Bueller?

-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

2017-10-09 Thread Adair Winter

It's really not that hard.

On Oct 9, 2017 8:33 AM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

> powercode "does" this with snmp, but requires too much work to get the
> right graphs and alerts set up
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Adair Winter  > wrote:
>
>> The do this with grafana, it's pulling link capacity and looks at
>> throughput, if it gets with in 90% we get an alert in slack
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM, "Christopher Tyler" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?
>>>
>>> Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to
>>> saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it
>>> blind to the actual, real-world link capabilities?
>>>
>>> Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data
>>> entry and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for
>>> determining the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I
>>> have to run a link test to determine the link speed for every link, then
>>> that is going to be a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I
>>> have to do that even once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I
>>> was finished doing them all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the
>>> links even close to being accurate. That would require a full-time employee
>>> just to handle that single task.
>>>
>>> I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need
>>> something that works.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher Tyler
>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>> 417.851.1107
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs

2017-10-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

Sounds like cacti?

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Sam Lambie" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs
Date: Mon, Oct 9, 2017 8:46 AM

Hey all,Someone a few weeks ago posted a cool looking linux based network 
graphing tool. I can't find that thread. 

Bueller?
-- 
-- 
Sam Lambie

Taosnet Wireless Tech.

575-758-7598 Office

www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs

2017-10-09 Thread Sam Lambie

Grafana. I found it...

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:53 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:

>
> Sounds like cacti?
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Sam Lambie" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs
> Date: Mon, Oct 9, 2017 8:46 AM
>
> Hey all,
> Someone a few weeks ago posted a cool looking linux based network graphing
> tool. I can't find that thread.
>
> Bueller?
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



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www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs

2017-10-09 Thread Adair Winter

we use grafana

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Grafana. I found it...
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:53 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Sounds like cacti?
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Sam Lambie" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs
>> Date: Mon, Oct 9, 2017 8:46 AM
>>
>> Hey all,
>> Someone a few weeks ago posted a cool looking linux based network
>> graphing tool. I can't find that thread.
>>
>> Bueller?
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] This looks like a really interesting (clone) company....

2017-10-09 Thread Adair Winter

I Saw that..

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:06 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs

2017-10-09 Thread Sam Lambie

Is there a way to map the entire network with grafana on one page to see
it's status?

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Adair Winter 
wrote:

> we use grafana
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Grafana. I found it...
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:53 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like cacti?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Sam Lambie" 
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs
>>> Date: Mon, Oct 9, 2017 8:46 AM
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> Someone a few weeks ago posted a cool looking linux based network
>>> graphing tool. I can't find that thread.
>>>
>>> Bueller?
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> 
>
>
>


-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
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www.Taosnet.com

[AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza

What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?

Re: [AFMUG] This looks like a really interesting (clone) company....

2017-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza

I had seen that dialer version but under a different name.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Adair Winter 
wrote:

> I Saw that..
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:06 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown

lmr-1200 depending on frequency

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?

Re: [AFMUG] This looks like a really interesting (clone) company....

2017-10-09 Thread Jeremy

They have had a booth at WISPAPALOOZA for like three years now.  The
software appears to be AirMAX.  I don't know how they get away with it

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I had seen that dialer version but under a different name.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Adair Winter  > wrote:
>
>> I Saw that..
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:06 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza

928.xxx/952.xxxMHz

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> lmr-1200 depending on frequency
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Heliax substitute
>
> What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown

Not a problem.  Much easier to work with too.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 10:35 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

928.xxx/952.xxxMHz

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  lmr-1200 depending on frequency

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 AM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

  What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?

Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread George Skorup

RFS has Heliax-like cable. Last time I messed with it, it's not exactly 
the same, so don't expect Andrew connectors to fit perfectly.


On 10/9/2017 11:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Not a problem.  Much easier to work with too.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:35 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute
928.xxx/952.xxxMHz
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

lmr-1200 depending on frequency
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Heliax substitute
What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?

Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza

tak

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Not a problem.  Much easier to work with too.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:35 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute
>
> 928.xxx/952.xxxMHz
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> lmr-1200 depending on frequency
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Heliax substitute
>>
>> What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread Lewis Bergman

LMR-1200 does compare but I will warn you. LMR-1200 has very similar specs
and is actually much tougher than Heliax. The issue is installing the
connectors. Unlike the smaller braided cables, 1200 takes patience and time
to make sure that you get the strands correct. If you don't get everything
just right the connector will shift back and forth on the coax. You will
still have a shield ground typically but it just isn't good to have
movement like that.

They may have easier connectors to use now as I haven't used them in a long
time.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:35 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> 928.xxx/952.xxxMHz
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> lmr-1200 depending on frequency
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Heliax substitute
>>
>> What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown

I prefer it to Heliax, but you do have to take some time to comb out the braid 
where it goes over the collar that pinches it into the connector.  And it will 
not kink like Heliax.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 10:55 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

LMR-1200 does compare but I will warn you. LMR-1200 has very similar specs and 
is actually much tougher than Heliax. The issue is installing the connectors. 
Unlike the smaller braided cables, 1200 takes patience and time to make sure 
that you get the strands correct. If you don't get everything just right the 
connector will shift back and forth on the coax. You will still have a shield 
ground typically but it just isn't good to have movement like that. 

They may have easier connectors to use now as I haven't used them in a long 
time.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:35 AM Jaime Solorza  wrote:

  928.xxx/952.xxxMHz

  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

lmr-1200 depending on frequency

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?

Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza

We have all the tools for Heliax connector prep and it is still my
preferred RF cable.But at 5.00 plus a foot, the water company
purchasing guy is asking for alternatives.  Not sure it will fly with their
new RF SCADA tech who came from a Motorola 2 way dealer.



Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I prefer it to Heliax, but you do have to take some time to comb out the
> braid where it goes over the collar that pinches it into the connector.
> And it will not kink like Heliax.
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:55 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute
>
> LMR-1200 does compare but I will warn you. LMR-1200 has very similar specs
> and is actually much tougher than Heliax. The issue is installing the
> connectors. Unlike the smaller braided cables, 1200 takes patience and time
> to make sure that you get the strands correct. If you don't get everything
> just right the connector will shift back and forth on the coax. You will
> still have a shield ground typically but it just isn't good to have
> movement like that.
>
> They may have easier connectors to use now as I haven't used them in a
> long time.
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:35 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> 928.xxx/952.xxxMHz
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> lmr-1200 depending on frequency
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 AM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Heliax substitute
>>>
>>> What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

2017-10-09 Thread David Coudron

Hi Adair,

We would be interested in hearing more about this.   We have much to learn 
about Powercode, but as of yet, we aren’t able to do what Christopher is asking 
about below.   We can SNMP pull the MAC for Rx and Tx and we can get the 
traffic Rx and Tx throughput on the radio.   However, because the MAC changes 
all the time due to small changes in signal strength etc, or if there is new 
interference that shows up, we never have a consistent MAC number to work with. 
  That coupled with an ever changing amount of traffic being sent through the 
radio means that we would need a real time calc to take traffic divided by MAC 
Tx and Rx to figure out how much of the currently available MAC is being used 
by the amount of traffic going through the radio (near realtime utilization of 
the link).   Powercode can get the individual data points, but we have not 
found a way to do the calculation and present that in its own graph.   We’d 
love to be able to do this right in Powercode though.   Is that what you are 
doing with Grafana?  If you have done this in Powercode and would be willing to 
share, we’d owe you more than a couple of beers 😊

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 
612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc. [cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] 
   
[cid:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]    
[cid:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]    
[cid:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] 
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

It's really not that hard.

On Oct 9, 2017 8:33 AM, "Steve Jones" 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
powercode "does" this with snmp, but requires too much work to get the right 
graphs and alerts set up

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Adair Winter 
mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>> wrote:
The do this with grafana, it's pulling link capacity and looks at throughput, 
if it gets with in 90% we get an alert in slack

On Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM, "Christopher Tyler" 
mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote:
So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?

Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to 
saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it blind 
to the actual, real-world link capabilities?

Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data entry 
and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for determining 
the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I have to run a 
link test to determine the link speed for every link, then that is going to be 
a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I have to do that even 
once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I was finished doing them 
all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the links even close to being 
accurate. That would require a full-time employee just to handle that single 
task.

I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need something 
that works.

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

2017-10-09 Thread Lewis Bergman

My cost is closer to $2 a foot for RFS while my cost for 1200 is a bit more
than $5.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 12:37 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> We have all the tools for Heliax connector prep and it is still my
> preferred RF cable.But at 5.00 plus a foot, the water company
> purchasing guy is asking for alternatives.  Not sure it will fly with their
> new RF SCADA tech who came from a Motorola 2 way dealer.
>
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I prefer it to Heliax, but you do have to take some time to comb out the
>> braid where it goes over the collar that pinches it into the connector.
>> And it will not kink like Heliax.
>>
>> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:55 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Heliax substitute
>>
>> LMR-1200 does compare but I will warn you. LMR-1200 has very similar
>> specs and is actually much tougher than Heliax. The issue is installing the
>> connectors. Unlike the smaller braided cables, 1200 takes patience and time
>> to make sure that you get the strands correct. If you don't get everything
>> just right the connector will shift back and forth on the coax. You will
>> still have a shield ground typically but it just isn't good to have
>> movement like that.
>>
>> They may have easier connectors to use now as I haven't used them in a
>> long time.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:35 AM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 928.xxx/952.xxxMHz
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 lmr-1200 depending on frequency

 *From:* Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 AM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Heliax substitute

 What compares to 7/8 Andrew Heliax cable for 300 ft. runs?


>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

2017-10-09 Thread Christopher Tyler

+1

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "David Coudron" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 12:51:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

Hi Adair,

We would be interested in hearing more about this.   We have much to learn 
about Powercode, but as of yet, we aren’t able to do what Christopher is asking 
about below.   We can SNMP pull the MAC for Rx and Tx and we can get the 
traffic Rx and Tx throughput on the radio.   However, because the MAC changes 
all the time due to small changes in signal strength etc, or if there is new 
interference that shows up, we never have a consistent MAC number to work with. 
  That coupled with an ever changing amount of traffic being sent through the 
radio means that we would need a real time calc to take traffic divided by MAC 
Tx and Rx to figure out how much of the currently available MAC is being used 
by the amount of traffic going through the radio (near realtime utilization of 
the link).   Powercode can get the individual data points, but we have not 
found a way to do the calculation and present that in its own graph.   We’d 
love to be able to do this right in Powercode though.   Is that what you are 
doing with Grafana?  If you have done this in Powercode and would be willing to 
share, we’d owe you more than a couple of beers 😊

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 
612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc. [cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] 
   
[cid:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]    
[cid:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]    
[cid:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] 
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, 
Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447  |  
www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  
Local: 612-454-1545

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

It's really not that hard.

On Oct 9, 2017 8:33 AM, "Steve Jones" 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
powercode "does" this with snmp, but requires too much work to get the right 
graphs and alerts set up

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Adair Winter 
mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>> wrote:
The do this with grafana, it's pulling link capacity and looks at throughput, 
if it gets with in 90% we get an alert in slack

On Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM, "Christopher Tyler" 
mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote:
So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?

Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to 
saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it blind 
to the actual, real-world link capabilities?

Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data entry 
and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for determining 
the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I have to run a 
link test to determine the link speed for every link, then that is going to be 
a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I have to do that even 
once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I was finished doing them 
all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the links even close to being 
accurate. That would require a full-time employee just to handle that single 
task.

I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need something 
that works.

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

[AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2017-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown

Found a 96 footer Titan from Tessco for about $4600.
Any better deals or stronger towers for a similar price?

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2017-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown

Needs to be self supporting.

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 1:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

Found a 96 footer Titan from Tessco for about $4600.
Any better deals or stronger towers for a similar price?

Re: [AFMUG] Tracking tracking numbers

2017-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman

Right I'm using UPS/FedEx/postal

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 9, 2017 10:26 AM, "Christopher Tyler" 
wrote:

> Most of the generic (non carrier) apps do all of the services, not just
> their own. ie, UPS only tracks UPS, same with FedEx. Parcel and the like
> will track everyone that they can, even Chinese and other foreign posts.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:24:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tracking tracking numbers
>
> Ups has a thing for that. I bet FedEx has too.
>
> On Oct 6, 2017 3:26 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a webapp/Chrome extension/something that I can throw
> > tracking numbers in and keep a log of?  Ideally it would show a list of
> > them that are yet to arrive, possibly ones with issues, and then a long
> > term history of them.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> > 1100 Wayne St
> >  +OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> > Suite 1337
> >  +OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >  +OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2017-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown

What kind of wind survivability does that have?

From: Jeff Evans 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com ; Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

Recently purchased a Rohn RSL from Texas Towers ~ $6300.00 shipped.

On 10/9/2017 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Needs to be self supporting.

  From: Chuck McCown 
  Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 1:31 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

  Found a 96 footer Titan from Tessco for about $4600.
  Any better deals or stronger towers for a similar price?

-- 
Jeff Evans, Managing Member
PennWisp, LLC
www.pennwisp.com

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2017-10-09 Thread James Howard

https://www.3starinc.com/images/super/RSL-A_800x800t.jpg

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 3:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com; Jeff Evans 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

What kind of wind survivability does that have?

From: Jeff Evans
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com ; Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

Recently purchased a Rohn RSL from Texas Towers ~ $6300.00 shipped.

On 10/9/2017 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Needs to be self supporting.

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 1:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

Found a 96 footer Titan from Tessco for about $4600.
Any better deals or stronger towers for a similar price?

--

Jeff Evans, Managing Member

PennWisp, LLC

www.pennwisp.com

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Re: [AFMUG] Tracking tracking numbers

2017-10-09 Thread Lewis Bergman

Not that this is what you are wanting but Pitney Bowes had something you
pay by the month and it lets you ship track and find the lowest price for
those three. Billed through them.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017, 3:51 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Right I'm using UPS/FedEx/postal
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>
> On Oct 9, 2017 10:26 AM, "Christopher Tyler" 
> wrote:
>
>> Most of the generic (non carrier) apps do all of the services, not just
>> their own. ie, UPS only tracks UPS, same with FedEx. Parcel and the like
>> will track everyone that they can, even Chinese and other foreign posts.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Tyler
>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>> 417.851.1107
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:24:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tracking tracking numbers
>>
>> Ups has a thing for that. I bet FedEx has too.
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2017 3:26 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Does anyone have a webapp/Chrome extension/something that I can throw
>> > tracking numbers in and keep a log of?  Ideally it would show a list of
>> > them that are yet to arrive, possibly ones with issues, and then a long
>> > term history of them.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> 
>> > <
>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>> >
>> > Suite 1337
>> > <
>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>> >
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> > <
>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>> >
>> >
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2017-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown

Thanks, was that from that discount tower place?

From: Jeff Evans 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 3:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com ; Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

height

 100' 
  section size, top 21" 
  section size, bottom 51" 
  base footing 10' x 10' x 4'4", (16 cu. yds.) 
  windload capacity, 90 MPH (Class I Loading) 25 sq. ft. 
  windload capacity, 100 MPH (Class I Loading) 11 sq. ft. 
  weight 1688 pounds 

That was with the base section, step pegs, and freight.

On 10/9/2017 4:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  What kind of wind survivability does that have?

  From: Jeff Evans 
  Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 2:53 PM
  To: af@afmug.com ; Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

  Recently purchased a Rohn RSL from Texas Towers ~ $6300.00 shipped.

  On 10/9/2017 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Needs to be self supporting.

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 1:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

Found a 96 footer Titan from Tessco for about $4600.
Any better deals or stronger towers for a similar price?

-- 
Jeff Evans, Managing Member
PennWisp, LLC
www.pennwisp.com

-- 
Jeff Evans, Managing Member
PennWisp, LLC
www.pennwisp.com

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2017-10-09 Thread Steve Jones

You rent the crane, show me where the tower you want is, 50 bucks and a
case of beer, towers yours

On Oct 9, 2017 4:22 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Thanks, was that from that discount tower place?
>
> *From:* Jeff Evans
> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 3:01 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com ; Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'
>
>
> height
>
> 100'
> section size, top 21"
> section size, bottom 51"
> base footing 10' x 10' x 4'4", (16 cu. yds.)
> windload capacity, 90 MPH (Class I Loading) 25 sq. ft.
> windload capacity, 100 MPH (Class I Loading) 11 sq. ft.
> weight 1688 pounds
> That was with the base section, step pegs, and freight.
>
>
> On 10/9/2017 4:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> What kind of wind survivability does that have?
>
> *From:* Jeff Evans
> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 2:53 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com ; Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'
>
>
> Recently purchased a Rohn RSL from Texas Towers ~ $6300.00 shipped.
>
> On 10/9/2017 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Needs to be self supporting.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, October 09, 2017 1:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'
>
> Found a 96 footer Titan from Tessco for about $4600.
> Any better deals or stronger towers for a similar price?
>
>
> --
> Jeff Evans, Managing Member
> PennWisp, LLCwww.pennwisp.com
>
>
> --
> Jeff Evans, Managing Member
> PennWisp, LLCwww.pennwisp.com
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

2017-10-09 Thread Steve Jones

you have to generate a probe for each interface you want to monitor, may
get lucky and each device happens to use a standard oid and hppens to have
the same index, though thats rare, so say you have three devices, thats
three probes, that you need to name, if its a device with dynamic indexes
based on config, good luck, add more probes, if there are multiple
interfaces (like a router) and you dont maintain the same interface number
(monitoring RB1100ahx2 can require up to 13 different probes, just to
start, granted, those are routers) assuming you dont have vlans.. add more
probes. now is the thing, youre alerts are based on good bad warning and
down, so only 4 states. so if, say youre monitoring more than one thing per
device, (CPU, RX, TX, RSSI, CINR/SNR, etc, you have to make sure than you
reserve ob=ne of those states strictly for the alert you want)

not simple, if you actually monitor your gear in powercode

If the alerts could be tied to individual probes and be tailored to
individual devices, youd be golden, and it would be simple, but, alas, it
really is not right now

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Christopher Tyler 
wrote:

> +1
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Coudron" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 12:51:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring
>
> Hi Adair,
>
> We would be interested in hearing more about this.   We have much to learn
> about Powercode, but as of yet, we aren’t able to do what Christopher is
> asking about below.   We can SNMP pull the MAC for Rx and Tx and we can get
> the traffic Rx and Tx throughput on the radio.   However, because the MAC
> changes all the time due to small changes in signal strength etc, or if
> there is new interference that shows up, we never have a consistent MAC
> number to work with.   That coupled with an ever changing amount of traffic
> being sent through the radio means that we would need a real time calc to
> take traffic divided by MAC Tx and Rx to figure out how much of the
> currently available MAC is being used by the amount of traffic going
> through the radio (near realtime utilization of the link).   Powercode can
> get the individual data points, but we have not found a way to do the
> calculation and present that in its own graph.   We’d love to be able to do
> this right in Powercode though.   Is that what you are doing with Grafana?
> If you have done this in Powercode and would be willing to share, we’d owe
> you more than a couple of beers 😊
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Coudron
> david.coud...@advantenon.com  |
> Mobile: 612-991-7474
>
> Advantenon, Inc. [cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] <
> http://www.linkedin.com/company/Advantenon>   
> [cid:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]
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>
> [cid:image005.jpg@01D340FD.3FAB2280]
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:49 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring
>
> It's really not that hard.
>
> On Oct 9, 2017 8:33 AM, "Steve Jones"  thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> powercode "does" this with snmp, but requires too much work to get the
> right graphs and alerts set up
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Adair Winter  > wrote:
> The do this with grafana, it's pulling link capacity and looks at
> throughput, if it gets with in 90% we get an alert in slack
>
> On Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM, "Christopher Tyler"  mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote:
> So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?
>
> Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to
> saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it
> blind to the actual, real-world link capabilities?
>
> Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data
> entry and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for
> determining the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I
> have to run a link test to determine the link speed for every link, then
> that is going to be a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I
> have to do that even once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I
> was finished doing them all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the
> links even close to being accurate. That would require a full-time employee
> just to handle that single task.
>
> I don't care if it's open or c

Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

2017-10-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

I talked briefly with Matthew about this todayI'd love to see it in 
action.

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Coudron 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 12:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

  Hi Adair,

  We would be interested in hearing more about this.   We have much to learn 
about Powercode, but as of yet, we aren’t able to do what Christopher is asking 
about below.   We can SNMP pull the MAC for Rx and Tx and we can get the 
traffic Rx and Tx throughput on the radio.   However, because the MAC changes 
all the time due to small changes in signal strength etc, or if there is new 
interference that shows up, we never have a consistent MAC number to work with. 
  That coupled with an ever changing amount of traffic being sent through the 
radio means that we would need a real time calc to take traffic divided by MAC 
Tx and Rx to figure out how much of the currently available MAC is being used 
by the amount of traffic going through the radio (near realtime utilization of 
the link).   Powercode can get the individual data points, but we have not 
found a way to do the calculation and present that in its own graph.   We’d 
love to be able to do this right in Powercode though.   Is that what you are 
doing with Grafana?  If you have done this in Powercode and would be willing to 
share, we’d owe you more than a couple of beers 😊

  Thanks,

  David Coudron

  david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

  Advantenon, Inc.   

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  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
  Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:49 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

  It's really not that hard. 

  On Oct 9, 2017 8:33 AM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

powercode "does" this with snmp, but requires too much work to get the 
right graphs and alerts set up

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Adair Winter  
wrote:

  The do this with grafana, it's pulling link capacity and looks at 
throughput, if it gets with in 90% we get an alert in slack 

  On Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM, "Christopher Tyler"  
wrote:

So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?

Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to 
saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it blind 
to the actual, real-world link capabilities?

Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial 
data entry and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for 
determining the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I have 
to run a link test to determine the link speed for every link, then that is 
going to be a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I have to do 
that even once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I was finished 
doing them all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the links even close 
to being accurate. That would require a full-time employee just to handle that 
single task.

I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need 
something that works.

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

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