Re: [AFMUG] site inverter +48

[Brian Kelly]

Most of our sites are  24/48VDC, but use these guys when we need AC at a
site

https://www.majorpower.com/products?product_type=majorsine&voltage=48-vdc&industry=

They are just an inverter w/ bypass, and take a pretty standard SNMP card
to manage.

Brian



On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:15 AM, TJ Trout  wrote:

> Looking for a inverter with pure/true sine that's rack mountable with a
> auto transfer switch, the only problem is I think most of these have
> charging systems, if your already using a DC supply to float the batteries,
> how do you handle this? Remove the DC supply? Put a large capacity diode on
> the inverter's battery connection? Run separate batteries?
>
> Thanks
>
> TJ
>

Re: [AFMUG] site inverter +48

[can...@believewireless.net]

We use these and have been very happy with them:

http://www.ict-power.com/product/dc-ac-pure-sine-wave-power-inverters/

The 300W does have a 3 second 600W overload cutoff.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> Most of our sites are  24/48VDC, but use these guys when we need AC at a
> site
>
> https://www.majorpower.com/products?product_type=majorsine&voltage=48-vdc&;
> industry=
>
> They are just an inverter w/ bypass, and take a pretty standard SNMP card
> to manage.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:15 AM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>> Looking for a inverter with pure/true sine that's rack mountable with a
>> auto transfer switch, the only problem is I think most of these have
>> charging systems, if your already using a DC supply to float the batteries,
>> how do you handle this? Remove the DC supply? Put a large capacity diode on
>> the inverter's battery connection? Run separate batteries?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> TJ
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Justin Marshall]

Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works over 
USB to a Mikrotik 2011?

I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the 2011 
to recognize the APC through /system ups.

Thanks,
Justin

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a 
USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add 
external batteries for longer runtime.

Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 Office
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com


On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall 
mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via 
SNMP over ethernet?
Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
like Powerchute, etc…

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Adam Moffett]

Yeah temperature compensation is an oft overlooked feature.


-- Original Message --
From: "Jon Langeler" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/27/2018 7:13:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?


How do they handle say 0 deg F?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband  wrote:


OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP.



However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium 
Ion batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet. 
  It does have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts 
to your phones.   We like them for micro sites.




Adam



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?



Hi,



Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be 
monitored via SNMP over ethernet?


Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external 
batteries?


Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary 
programs like Powerchute, etc…




Thanks,

Justin

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Jon Langeler]

We’ve had upss  simply shut down below freezing which is totally not cool 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> Yeah temperature compensation is an oft overlooked feature.
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jon Langeler" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/27/2018 7:13:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
> 
>> How do they handle say 0 deg F?
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP.
>>>  
>>> However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion 
>>> batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet.   It 
>>> does have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your 
>>> phones.   We like them for micro sites.
>>>  
>>> Adam
>>>  
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored 
>>> via SNMP over ethernet?
>>> Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
>>> Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary 
>>> programs like Powerchute, etc…
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
>>>  

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Chuck McCown]

What does the CMM line of products use for an antenna?

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:59 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

I have done N to SMA adapter on two jobs where antenna had N connectors.  But 
most of the GPS antennas install in vehicle for tracking or 4G LTE mobile NVRs 
have been SMA.  


Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:54 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  But if you have to install an outdoor GPS antenna, are you OK with 
terminating an SMA on a cable for that?  Like RG58 or LMR195?

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:49 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

  SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in several 
manufacturing plants across border.


  Jaime Solorza

  On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
What kind of RF connectors are prefered?

I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that 
someday).  It is rack mounted.
But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will 
most likely have to terminate the cable.
BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.

What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Chuck McCown]

Guess the attachment got stripped.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

That is quite the teaser


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Chuck McCown]

I will try this again.  It is a 3ppp recording.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

That is quite the teaser


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Chuck McCown]

It was a fun recording of him giving a caller reading from a script hell about 
the do not call registry and the fine he will collect from them.  

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 7:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

I will try this again.  It is a 3ppp recording.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

That is quite the teaser


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Robert]

Curses, stripped again...

On 3/28/18 6:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I will try this again.  It is a 3ppp recording.
*From:* Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:47 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank
That is quite the teaser

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Jaime Solorza]

And cavity searched?  How cliche'

Jaime Solorza

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 7:40 AM Robert  wrote:

> Curses, stripped again...
>
> On 3/28/18 6:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> > I will try this again.  It is a 3ppp recording.
> > *From:* Lewis Bergman
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:47 PM
> > *To:* af@afmug.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank
> > That is quite the teaser
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[jason]

To be honest  I go to staples pick one that has a USB port. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2018, at 5:54 AM, Justin Marshall  wrote:
> 
> Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works 
> over USB to a Mikrotik 2011?
>  
> I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the 
> 2011 to recognize the APC through /system ups.
>  
> Thanks,
> Justin
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
>  
> Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a 
> USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add 
> external batteries for longer runtime.
>  
> Jason
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 Office
> 530-748-9608 Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall  wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via 
> SNMP over ethernet?
> Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
> Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
> like Powerchute, etc…
>  
> Thanks,
> Justin
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Colin Stanners]

Note that some Mikrotik USB ports only run at USB2.0 speed (480mbit) while
many UPSes only run at USB1.0 speeds (12 / 1.5mbit). I saw this issue while
trying to connect a Back-UPS 350 to a RB951. IIRC inserting a USB2.0 hub
between them will fix it.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Justin Marshall  wrote:

> Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works
> over USB to a Mikrotik 2011?
>
>
>
> I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the
> 2011 to recognize the APC through /system ups.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason Wilson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
>
>
>
> Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone
> with a USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we
> usually add external batteries for longer runtime.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
> Jason Wilson
>
> Remotely Located
>
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736> Office
>
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored
> via SNMP over ethernet?
>
> Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
>
> Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary
> programs like Powerchute, etc…
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Justin Marshall]

Reason I ask, is because reading the Mikrotik forums really make it sound hit 
or miss as to which APC’s work with which model Mikrotiks

This thread for e.g. 
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12670&p=428800&hilit=rb2011+ups+usb#p428800.
 This guy tested different APC’s with different Mikrotiks and had mixed results 
even between different CCR1036’s. One CCR1036 saw 9 out of the 10 UPS’s he was 
testing, but another CCR1036 only saw 1 of the 10.

Thanks for the head’s up on the USB speed


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

Note that some Mikrotik USB ports only run at USB2.0 speed (480mbit) while many 
UPSes only run at USB1.0 speeds (12 / 1.5mbit). I saw this issue while trying 
to connect a Back-UPS 350 to a RB951. IIRC inserting a USB2.0 hub between them 
will fix it.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Justin Marshall 
mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works over 
USB to a Mikrotik 2011?

I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the 2011 
to recognize the APC through /system ups.

Thanks,
Justin

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jason Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a 
USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add 
external batteries for longer runtime.

Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 Office
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall 
mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via 
SNMP over ethernet?
Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
like Powerchute, etc…

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Arab
Mobile
just to name a few...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


  Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods 
(probably western third of the state)...


  It's Russia, not Russia.
  It's Piqua, not Piqua.
  It's Houston, not Houston.
  It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not know how to 
pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into 
knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lewis Bergman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


  I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run 
your open tech support. 


  I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have 
someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I 
doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.


  On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ


"IN-DE GO" :)



On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:

  It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered 
version of the six fingered man. 

  On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  wrote:


That's how it's pronounced... 


Maybe a regional thing?


On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
 wrote:

  GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. 


  The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always 
say In Dee Go. 

  On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson 
 wrote:


They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic 
support DT, lol!



I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, 
so I think they are doing well.



The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name 
pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper 
pronunciation.



But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on 
pronunciation themselves.





From: Af  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the 
decision tree that you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the 
service will be.  



From: Layne Sisk 

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please 
see those below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without 
looking at stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says “My 
internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting more than 
they are paying for.  We have hired a number of new people recently because we 
have grown and have added a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time 
of the year so we also took advantage of this time to get rid of some of our 
weaker performers.  Here are the company wide stats for the past week with some 
comments about them, I would stack these up against any call center in the 
world.  Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I 
care a lot about it just like you do about your networks.  I know we are not 
perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to 
address any individual issue directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do.  





  OFFICE STATS
 
 
 
 
 SP
 GOAL
 Comment
 
  AVERAGE TALK TIME
 
 
 
 
 0:11:05
 0:10:00
 Down from over 13 min 2 months ago
 
TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED
 
 
 
 
 69.94%
 80%
 This is agent utilization
 
  SURVEY SCORE
 
 
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Chuck McCown]

Nevada, Mo.
Nevada – the state- if you are Trump.

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 10:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


Arab
Mobile
just to name a few...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

  Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods 
(probably western third of the state)... 

  It's Russia, not Russia.
  It's Piqua, not Piqua.
  It's Houston, not Houston.
  It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not know how to 
pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into 
knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lewis Bergman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

  I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run 
your open tech support. 

  I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have 
someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I 
doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.


  On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ


"IN-DE GO" :)


On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:

  It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered 
version of the six fingered man. 

  On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  wrote:


That's how it's pronounced... 

Maybe a regional thing?

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
 wrote:

  GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard. 

  The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always 
say In Dee Go. 

  On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson 
 wrote:


They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic 
support DT, lol!



I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, 
so I think they are doing well.



The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name 
pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper 
pronunciation.



But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on 
pronunciation themselves.





From: Af  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the 
decision tree that you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the 
service will be.  



From: Layne Sisk 

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please 
see those below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without 
looking at stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says “My 
internet seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting more than 
they are paying for.  We have hired a number of new people recently because we 
have grown and have added a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time 
of the year so we also took advantage of this time to get rid of some of our 
weaker performers.  Here are the company wide stats for the past week with some 
comments about them, I would stack these up against any call center in the 
world.  Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I 
care a lot about it just like you do about your networks.  I know we are not 
perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to 
address any individual issue directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do.  





  OFFICE STATS
 
 
 
 
 SP
 GOAL
 Comment
 
  AVERAGE TALK TIME
 
 
 
 
 0:11:05
 0:10:00
 Down from over 13 min 2 months ago
 
TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED
 
 
 
 
 69.94%
 80%
 This is agent utilization

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Tim Reichhart]

Josh
some people cant even say it correctly even know you from area just like russia 
they say it weird.

Tim



 

-Original Message-
From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 03/28/18 12:16
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


 
Arab
Mobile
just to name a few...
 
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods 
(probably western third of the state)...

It's Russia, not Russia.
It's Piqua, not Piqua.
It's Houston, not Houston.
It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:

 
I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not know how to 
pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into 
knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here...
 
- Original Message -
From: Lewis Bergman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run your 
open tech support.

I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone 
speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt 
you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ


"IN-DE GO" :)


On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:

It's In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the 
six fingered man. 

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  wrote:



That's how it's pronounced...


Maybe a regional thing?

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"  
wrote:


GTC does this too. I don't know why it's so hard. 


The company I used to work for was "Indigo Wireless". They always say In Dee 
Go. 

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:




They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol!

 

I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they 
are doing well.

 

The only feedback I've had is customers hear our company name pronounced five 
different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation.

 

But it's a made-up name so my customer are always confused on pronunciation 
themselves.

 

 


From: Af  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


 


I would add that Layne's service is only as good as the decision tree that you 
provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service will be.  


 


From: Layne Sisk 


Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM


To: af@afmug.com 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


 


I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see those below. 
 The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at stats.  Kind 
of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says "My internet seems slow" when 
you have stats that show they are getting more than they are paying for.  We 
have hired a number of new people recently because we have grown and have added 
a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took 
advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker performers.  Here are 
the company wide stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would 
stack these up against any call center in the world.  Sorry if I come on 
strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like 
you do about your networks.  I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am 
sure we made a mistake or
two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, but I am pretty 
proud of what we do.  

 

 

 
OFFICE STATS
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
SP
 
GOAL
 
Comment

 
AVERAGE TALK TIME
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
0:11:05
 
0:10:00
 
Down from over 13 min 2 months ago

 
  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
69.94%
 
80%
 
This is agent utilization

 
SURVEY SCORE
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
91.66%
 
95%
 
91.66% of callers would recommend the service That  is a number any company 
would kill for

 
SURVEY TAKEN
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
20.57%
 
20%
 
A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of

 
TECH ESCALATION
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
39.31%
 
20%
 
Higher escalation percentage this week because of the storms and significant 
network outages

 
ESCALATION APPROVAL TIME
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
0:11:47
 
0:10:00
 
Down from over 30 min 4 months ago

 
QA SCORE
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
92.05%
 
95%
 
Happy to share our QA form with anyone who would like to see it

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 

 
COMPANY STATS
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
SP
 
GOAL
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
CALL WAIT TIME
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
0:01

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Mike Hammett]

How many of these are just the local people pronounce it wrong? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Tim Reichhart"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:37:46 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 


Josh 
some people cant even say it correctly even know you from area just like russia 
they say it weird. 

Tim 







-Original Message- 
From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" < par...@cyberbroadband.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Date: 03/28/18 12:16 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 



Arab 
Mobile 
just to name a few... 



- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 


Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods 
(probably western third of the state)... 


It's Russia, not Russia. 
It's Piqua, not Piqua. 
It's Houston, not Houston. 
It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < par...@cyberbroadband.net > 
wrote: 





I would certainly disagree with that. If someone does not know how to pronounce 
our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into knowing whomever 
I'm talking to is not here... 



- Original Message - 
From: Lewis Bergman 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 

I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run your 
open tech support. 


I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone 
speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt 
you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can. 



On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ 


"IN-DE GO" :) 



On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes < 
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > wrote: 




It's In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the 
six fingered man. 

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 





That's how it's pronounced... 


Maybe a regional thing? 


On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
wrote: 






GTC does this too. I don't know why it's so hard. 


The company I used to work for was "Indigo Wireless". They always say In Dee 
Go. 

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net > wrote: 






They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol! 

I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they 
are doing well. 

The only feedback I've had is customers hear our company name pronounced five 
different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation. 

But it's a made-up name so my customer are always confused on pronunciation 
themselves. 




From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 




I would add that Layne's service is only as good as the decision tree that you 
provide to him. The more detailed DT, the better the service will be. 






From: Layne Sisk 

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 



I would like to share some solid stats with the group. Please see those below. 
The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at stats. Kind 
of like the user that calls you and vaguely says "My internet seems slow" when 
you have stats that show they are getting more than they are paying for. We 
have hired a number of new people recently because we have grown and have added 
a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took 
advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker performers. Here are 
the company wide stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would 
stack these up against any call center in the world. Sorry if I come on strong, 
but as you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do 
about your networks. I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we 
made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, 
but I am pretty proud of what we do. 



OFFICE STATS




SP  
GOAL
Comment 

AVERAGE TALK TIME   




0:11:05 
0:10:00 
Down from over 13 min 2 months ago 

TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED




69.94%  
80% 
This is agent utilization 

SURVEY SCORE




91.66%  
95% 
91.66% of callers would recommend the serv

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Tim Reichhart]

alot...


 

-Original Message-
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 03/28/18 12:40
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

How many of these are just the local people pronounce it wrong?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP





From: "Tim Reichhart" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:37:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

Josh
some people cant even say it correctly even know you from area just like russia 
they say it weird.

Tim




 

-Original Message-
From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 03/28/18 12:16
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


 
Arab
Mobile
just to name a few...
 
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the woods 
(probably western third of the state)...

It's Russia, not Russia.
It's Piqua, not Piqua.
It's Houston, not Houston.
It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:

 
I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not know how to 
pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into 
knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here...
 
- Original Message -
From: Lewis Bergman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you should run your 
open tech support.

I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to have someone 
speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt 
you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ


"IN-DE GO" :)


On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:

It's In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the 
six fingered man. 

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  wrote:



That's how it's pronounced...


Maybe a regional thing?

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"  
wrote:


GTC does this too. I don't know why it's so hard. 


The company I used to work for was "Indigo Wireless". They always say In Dee 
Go. 

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:




They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol!

 

I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they 
are doing well.

 

The only feedback I've had is customers hear our company name pronounced five 
different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation.

 

But it's a made-up name so my customer are always confused on pronunciation 
themselves.

 

 


From: Af  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


 


I would add that Layne's service is only as good as the decision tree that you 
provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service will be. 


 


From: Layne Sisk


Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM


To: af@afmug.com


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


 


I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see those below. 
 The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at stats.  Kind 
of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says "My internet seems slow" when 
you have stats that show they are getting more than they are paying for.  We 
have hired a number of new people recently because we have grown and have added 
a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took 
advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker performers.  Here are 
the company wide stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would 
stack these up against any call center in the world.  Sorry if I come on 
strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like 
you do about your networks.  I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am 
sure we made a mistake or
two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, but I am pretty 
proud of what we do. 

 

 

 
OFFICE STATS
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
SP
 
GOAL
 
Comment

 
AVERAGE TALK TIME
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
0:11:05
 
0:10:00
 
Down from over 13 min 2 months ago

 
  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
69.94%
 
80%
 
This is agent utilization

 
SURVEY SCORE
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
91.66%
 
95%
 
91.66% of callers would recommend the service That  is a number any company 
would kill for

 
SURVEY TAKEN
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
20.57%
 
20%
 
A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of

 
TECH ESCALATION
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
39.31%
 
20%
 
Higher escalation percentage this week because of the storms and significant 
network outages

 
ES

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Matt Hoppes]

Lima - is it LEEEMA... or LIE MA?

On 3/28/18 1:02 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:

alot...




-Original Message-
From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
To: af@afmug.com 
Date: 03/28/18 12:40
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

How many of these are just the local people pronounce it wrong?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 





*From:* "Tim Reichhart" mailto:timreichh...@hometowncable.net>>
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:37:46 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

Josh
some people cant even say it correctly even know you from area just
like russia they say it weird.

Tim




-Original Message-
From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
To: af@afmug.com 
Date: 03/28/18 12:16
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

Arab
Mobile
just to name a few...

- Original Message -
*From:* Josh Luthman 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this
neck of the woods (probably western third of the state)...

It's Russia, not Russia.
It's Piqua, not Piqua.
It's Houston, not Houston.
It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does
not know how to pronounce our community names it would
100% tick me off and clue me into knowing whomever I'm
talking to is not here...

- Original Message -
*From:* Lewis Bergman 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I would say that if you want local pronunciations of
words you should run your open tech support.

I don't think most people care. They are normally
happy just to have someone speak English that they
can understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I
doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that
Lane can.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ

"IN-DE GO" :)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

It's In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee
Go. Like a butchered version of the six
fingered man.

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

That's how it's pronounced...

Maybe a regional thing?

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
wrote:

GTC does this too. I don't know why
it's so hard.

The company I used to work for was
"Indigo Wireless". They always say

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

+1
(or 10s)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Reichhart 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


  alot...








-Original Message-
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 03/28/18 12:40
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


How many of these are just the local people pronounce it wrong?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Tim Reichhart" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:37:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


Josh
some people cant even say it correctly even know you from area just like 
russia they say it weird.

Tim








--
  -Original Message-
  From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Date: 03/28/18 12:16
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



  Arab
  Mobile
  just to name a few...

- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of the 
woods (probably western third of the state)...


It's Russia, not Russia.
It's Piqua, not Piqua.
It's Houston, not Houston.
It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


  I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not know how 
to pronounce our community names it would 100% tick me off and clue me into 
knowing whomever I'm talking to is not here...

- Original Message -
From: Lewis Bergman 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus


I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words you 
should run your open tech support.


I don't think most people care. They are normally happy just to 
have someone speak English that they can understand. Until you get about 8000 
subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.


On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds  
wrote:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ


  "IN-DE GO" :)



  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:

It's In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered 
version of the six fingered man. 

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds  
wrote:


  That's how it's pronounced...


  Maybe a regional thing?


  On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
 wrote:

GTC does this too. I don't know why it's so hard. 


The company I used to work for was "Indigo Wireless". They 
always say In Dee Go. 

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson 
 wrote:


  They are working well for us, and I have a horrible 
generic support DT, lol!



  I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this 
year, so I think they are doing well.



  The only feedback I've had is customers hear our company 
name pronounced five different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper 
pronunciation.



  But it's a made-up name so my customer are always 
confused on pronunciation themselves.





  From: Af  On Behalf Of 
ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



  I would add that Layne's service is only as good as the 
decision tree that you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the 
service will be. 



  From: Layne Sisk

  Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM

  To: af@afmug.com

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus



  I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  
Please see those below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without 
looking at stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says "My 
internet seems slow" when you have stats that show they are getting more than 
they are paying for.  We have hired a number of new people recently because we 
have grown and have added a new off

Re: [AFMUG] See what happens when you don't pay attention in math class!

[Adam Moffett]

Is it truly easier to hammer out the concrete than to take apart the 
machine?

Just wondering.


-- Original Message --
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 3/28/2018 1:27:19 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] See what happens when you don't pay attention in math 
class!



Opps...they are jack hammering away the concrete to get it in...

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Jay Weekley]

Anyone want to guess how you pronounce Ewtah?

CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

Arab
Mobile
just to name a few...

- Original Message -
*From:* Josh Luthman 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of
the woods (probably western third of the state)...

It's Russia, not Russia.
It's Piqua, not Piqua.
It's Houston, not Houston.
It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not
know how to pronounce our community names it would 100% tick
me off and clue me into knowing whomever I'm talking to is not
here...

- Original Message -
*From:* Lewis Bergman 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words
you should run your open tech support.

I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
just to have someone speak English that they can
understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt you can
do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ


"IN-DE GO" :)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like
a butchered version of the six fingered man.

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:


That's how it's pronounced...

Maybe a regional thing?

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so
hard.

The company I used to work for was “Indigo
Wireless”. They always say In Dee Go.

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson
mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:


They are working well for us, and I have a
horrible generic support DT, lol!

I have had zero complaints from my customers
so far this year, so I think they are doing
well.

The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear
our company name pronounced five different
ways, even though the DT instructs the
proper pronunciation.

But it’s a made-up name so my customer are
always confused on pronunciation themselves.

*From:* Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I would add that Layne’s service is only as
good as the decision tree that you provide
to him.  The more detailed DT, the better
the service will be.

*From:*Layne Sisk

*Sent:*Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I would like to share some solid stats with
the group.  Please see those below.  The
comment about a decline is hard to address
without looking at stats.  Kind of like the
user that calls you and vaguely  says “My
internet seems slow” when you have stats
that show they are getting more than they
are paying for. We have hired a number of
new people recently because we have grown
   

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Jay Weekley]

It's a real town in Alabama by the way.

Jay Weekley wrote:

Anyone want to guess how you pronounce Ewtah?

CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

Arab
Mobile
just to name a few...

- Original Message -
*From:* Josh Luthman 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:17 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

Here in Ohio it's very easy to know you're not from this neck of
the woods (probably western third of the state)...

It's Russia, not Russia.
It's Piqua, not Piqua.
It's Houston, not Houston.
It's Rio Grande, not Rio Grande.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> 
wrote:


I would certainly disagree with that.  If someone does not
know how to pronounce our community names it would 100% tick
me off and clue me into knowing whomever I'm talking to is not
here...

- Original Message -
*From:* Lewis Bergman 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I would say that if you want local pronunciations of words
you should run your open tech support.

I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
just to have someone speak English that they can
understand. Until you get about 8000 subs I doubt you can
do it anywhere close to the cost that Lane can.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ


"IN-DE GO" :)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like
a butchered version of the six fingered man.

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:


That's how it's pronounced...

Maybe a regional thing?

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so
hard.

The company I used to work for was “Indigo
Wireless”. They always say In Dee Go.

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson
mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:


They are working well for us, and I have a
horrible generic support DT, lol!

I have had zero complaints from my customers
so far this year, so I think they are doing
well.

The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear
our company name pronounced five different
ways, even though the DT instructs the
proper pronunciation.

But it’s a made-up name so my customer are
always confused on pronunciation themselves.

*From:* Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com 
*Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I would add that Layne’s service is only as
good as the decision tree that you provide
to him.  The more detailed DT, the better
the service will be.

*From:*Layne Sisk

*Sent:*Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com 

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I would like to share some solid stats with
the group.  Please see those below. The
comment about a decline is hard to address
without looking at stats.  Kind of like the
user that calls you and vaguely says “My
internet seems slow” when you have stats
that show they are getting more than they
are paying for. We have hired a number of
new peop

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Every external 'commercial' GPS antenna that I've seen has a N connector on
the bottom of it.   You can buy 'cheap chinese outdoor' GPS antennas with a
long lead and a SMA connector on the end as wellbut I'm not sure I'd
trust those.

On the equipment end, there doesn't seem to be a standard.   I have gear
with SMA, N, BNC and even F connectors for the GPS antenna.   The cambium
CMM's (CMM4 and earlier) seem to use BNC's.   The LMG equipment uses N
connectors.   One of my two GPSDO's uses a F connector, the other uses a
SMA.   I have two symmetricam GPS distribution amplifiers which both have
all N connectors.   I have a GPS re-radiator amplifier which uses SMA
connectors.

I think it's safe to expect the outside antenna to have a N connector on
it, since you probably don't want the cheap chinese antennas since they
seem to fail on a fairly regular basis (poor quality electronics inside
them).   What you use on the inside probably can just be decided based on
your mechanicals, not as per any standard.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> What does the CMM line of products use for an antenna?
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:59 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
>
> I have done N to SMA adapter on two jobs where antenna had N connectors.
> But most of the GPS antennas install in vehicle for tracking or 4G LTE
> mobile NVRs have been SMA.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:54 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> But if you have to install an outdoor GPS antenna, are you OK with
>> terminating an SMA on a cable for that?  Like RG58 or LMR195?
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:49 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
>>
>> SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in several
>> manufacturing plants across border.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
>>> What kind of RF connectors are prefered?
>>>
>>> I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that
>>> someday).  It is rack mounted.
>>> But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will
>>> most likely have to terminate the cable.
>>> BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.
>>>
>>> What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?
>>>
>>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] See what happens when you don't pay attention in math class!

[Jaime Solorza]

They are going to take some parts off but boiler is one huge piece.

Jaime Solorza

On Mar 28, 2018 11:28 AM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

Is it truly easier to hammer out the concrete than to take apart the
machine?
Just wondering.


-- Original Message --
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 3/28/2018 1:27:19 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] See what happens when you don't pay attention in math
class!

Opps...they are jack hammering away the concrete to get it in...

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Carl Peterson]

I'd vote for N, but just because we have always used N connectors and
LMR-400 and have it in the warehouse.  Seems like overkill to pull LMR-400
for GPS and I'm sure there is an equivalent EZ connector and smaller cable
out there but I wouldn't want to tool and stock up for it to just put up
one GPS antenna.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Every external 'commercial' GPS antenna that I've seen has a N connector
> on the bottom of it.   You can buy 'cheap chinese outdoor' GPS antennas
> with a long lead and a SMA connector on the end as wellbut I'm not sure
> I'd trust those.
>
> On the equipment end, there doesn't seem to be a standard.   I have gear
> with SMA, N, BNC and even F connectors for the GPS antenna.   The cambium
> CMM's (CMM4 and earlier) seem to use BNC's.   The LMG equipment uses N
> connectors.   One of my two GPSDO's uses a F connector, the other uses a
> SMA.   I have two symmetricam GPS distribution amplifiers which both have
> all N connectors.   I have a GPS re-radiator amplifier which uses SMA
> connectors.
>
> I think it's safe to expect the outside antenna to have a N connector on
> it, since you probably don't want the cheap chinese antennas since they
> seem to fail on a fairly regular basis (poor quality electronics inside
> them).   What you use on the inside probably can just be decided based on
> your mechanicals, not as per any standard.
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> What does the CMM line of products use for an antenna?
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:59 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
>>
>> I have done N to SMA adapter on two jobs where antenna had N connectors.
>> But most of the GPS antennas install in vehicle for tracking or 4G LTE
>> mobile NVRs have been SMA.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:54 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> But if you have to install an outdoor GPS antenna, are you OK with
>>> terminating an SMA on a cable for that?  Like RG58 or LMR195?
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:49 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
>>>
>>> SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in several
>>> manufacturing plants across border.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
 What kind of RF connectors are prefered?

 I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that
 someday).  It is rack mounted.
 But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will
 most likely have to terminate the cable.
 BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.

 What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?

>>>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> 
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Eric Muehleisen]

Our techs carry a spool of RG6 and have screw-on N-type connectors for
doing LTE installs. I've run a few long GPS runs using RG59/6. The
compression ends are much easier to crimp on than LMR IMO.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> I'd vote for N, but just because we have always used N connectors and
> LMR-400 and have it in the warehouse.  Seems like overkill to pull LMR-400
> for GPS and I'm sure there is an equivalent EZ connector and smaller cable
> out there but I wouldn't want to tool and stock up for it to just put up
> one GPS antenna.
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Every external 'commercial' GPS antenna that I've seen has a N connector
>> on the bottom of it.   You can buy 'cheap chinese outdoor' GPS antennas
>> with a long lead and a SMA connector on the end as wellbut I'm not sure
>> I'd trust those.
>>
>> On the equipment end, there doesn't seem to be a standard.   I have gear
>> with SMA, N, BNC and even F connectors for the GPS antenna.   The cambium
>> CMM's (CMM4 and earlier) seem to use BNC's.   The LMG equipment uses N
>> connectors.   One of my two GPSDO's uses a F connector, the other uses a
>> SMA.   I have two symmetricam GPS distribution amplifiers which both have
>> all N connectors.   I have a GPS re-radiator amplifier which uses SMA
>> connectors.
>>
>> I think it's safe to expect the outside antenna to have a N connector on
>> it, since you probably don't want the cheap chinese antennas since they
>> seem to fail on a fairly regular basis (poor quality electronics inside
>> them).   What you use on the inside probably can just be decided based on
>> your mechanicals, not as per any standard.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> What does the CMM line of products use for an antenna?
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:59 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
>>>
>>> I have done N to SMA adapter on two jobs where antenna had N
>>> connectors.  But most of the GPS antennas install in vehicle for tracking
>>> or 4G LTE mobile NVRs have been SMA.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:54 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 But if you have to install an outdoor GPS antenna, are you OK with
 terminating an SMA on a cable for that?  Like RG58 or LMR195?

 *From:* Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:49 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

 SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in several
 manufacturing plants across border.

 Jaime Solorza

 On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
> What kind of RF connectors are prefered?
>
> I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that
> someday).  It is rack mounted.
> But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers
> will most likely have to terminate the cable.
> BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.
>
> What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?
>

>>
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> 
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> 
>>   
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
> 
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
> 
>
> (410) 637-3707
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Josh Luthman]

Think it's cheaper to use an APC with the rack cards (9617-9619) from
ebay.  They're roughly $15.

The SNMP support is fantastic, better than Mikrotik IMO.  Using Powercode I
get alerts when the batteries get used at all (dipped below 100%), the
input/output voltage is anything outside of 120 +/- 10%, and a few other
things.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Justin Marshall 
wrote:

> Reason I ask, is because reading the Mikrotik forums really make it sound
> hit or miss as to which APC’s work with which model Mikrotiks
>
>
>
> This thread for e.g. https://forum.mikrotik.com/
> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12670&p=428800&hilit=rb2011+ups+usb#p428800. This guy
> tested different APC’s with different Mikrotiks and had mixed results even
> between different CCR1036’s. One CCR1036 saw 9 out of the 10 UPS’s he was
> testing, but another CCR1036 only saw 1 of the 10.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the head’s up on the USB speed
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:36 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
>
>
>
> Note that some Mikrotik USB ports only run at USB2.0 speed (480mbit) while
> many UPSes only run at USB1.0 speeds (12 / 1.5mbit). I saw this issue while
> trying to connect a Back-UPS 350 to a RB951. IIRC inserting a USB2.0 hub
> between them will fix it.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Justin Marshall 
> wrote:
>
> Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works
> over USB to a Mikrotik 2011?
>
>
>
> I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the
> 2011 to recognize the APC through /system ups.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason Wilson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
>
>
>
> Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone
> with a USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we
> usually add external batteries for longer runtime.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
> Jason Wilson
>
> Remotely Located
>
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736> Office
>
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored
> via SNMP over ethernet?
>
> Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
>
> Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary
> programs like Powerchute, etc…
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] DSLAM choices for mdu

[Sam Lambie]

My usual vendor Versatek has discontinued their 8 port VDSL DSLAM. I am
looking for something similar. Not opposed to 24 port as well.
What are you guys using out there?

-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] DSLAM choices for mdu

[Keefe John]

I wish UBNT would come out with something affordable!

Keefe


On 3/28/2018 3:26 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
My usual vendor Versatek has discontinued their 8 port VDSL DSLAM. I 
am looking for something similar. Not opposed to 24 port as well.

What are you guys using out there?

--
--
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] DSLAM choices for mdu

[Sean Heskett]

Netsys NV-2400H


On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:26 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> My usual vendor Versatek has discontinued their 8 port VDSL DSLAM. I am
> looking for something similar. Not opposed to 24 port as well.
> What are you guys using out there?
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Chuck McCown]

Which antenna do you  recommend?

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:02 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

Every external 'commercial' GPS antenna that I've seen has a N connector on the 
bottom of it.   You can buy 'cheap chinese outdoor' GPS antennas with a long 
lead and a SMA connector on the end as wellbut I'm not sure I'd trust 
those. 

On the equipment end, there doesn't seem to be a standard.   I have gear with 
SMA, N, BNC and even F connectors for the GPS antenna.   The cambium CMM's 
(CMM4 and earlier) seem to use BNC's.   The LMG equipment uses N connectors.   
One of my two GPSDO's uses a F connector, the other uses a SMA.   I have two 
symmetricam GPS distribution amplifiers which both have all N connectors.   I 
have a GPS re-radiator amplifier which uses SMA connectors.  

I think it's safe to expect the outside antenna to have a N connector on it, 
since you probably don't want the cheap chinese antennas since they seem to 
fail on a fairly regular basis (poor quality electronics inside them).   What 
you use on the inside probably can just be decided based on your mechanicals, 
not as per any standard.   

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  What does the CMM line of products use for an antenna?

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:59 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

  I have done N to SMA adapter on two jobs where antenna had N connectors.  But 
most of the GPS antennas install in vehicle for tracking or 4G LTE mobile NVRs 
have been SMA.  


  Jaime Solorza

  On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:54 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

But if you have to install an outdoor GPS antenna, are you OK with 
terminating an SMA on a cable for that?  Like RG58 or LMR195?

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:49 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in several 
manufacturing plants across border.


Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
  What kind of RF connectors are prefered?

  I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that 
someday).  It is rack mounted.
  But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will 
most likely have to terminate the cable.
  BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.

  What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?




-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

 

[AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

[Jason McKemie]

Currently I just run a flat drop fiber to an enclosure on the side of the
building, then cat5 inside.

Those of you doing indoor ONTs, what are you using for fiber from the
outdoor splice closure to the ONT?  It would need to be UV rated and
probably armored since I would prefer to not have to run conduit from the
splice closure through the exterior wall.

Thanks.

Jason

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

[Colin Stanners]

We just run a bit of conduit from the NID to the hole leading inside. If
you try to run armoured/UV-shielded-type fiber indoors you'll find it
difficult to flex and probably get complaints about the looks.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Currently I just run a flat drop fiber to an enclosure on the side of the
> building, then cat5 inside.
>
> Those of you doing indoor ONTs, what are you using for fiber from the
> outdoor splice closure to the ONT?  It would need to be UV rated and
> probably armored since I would prefer to not have to run conduit from the
> splice closure through the exterior wall.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jason
>

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Matt]

> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>
> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
> causing the surge suppressor to fire.
> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>
> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.

I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
equipment safe?

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

[Craig Schmaderer]

Clearfield flexible fieldshield patch cables with removable end. Run from 
outside splice box to inside ont. Almost always use the 25 footers. Expensive.  
$45. I have yet found a better solution that doesn't involve more labor.


From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie 

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:10:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

Currently I just run a flat drop fiber to an enclosure on the side of the 
building, then cat5 inside.

Those of you doing indoor ONTs, what are you using for fiber from the outdoor 
splice closure to the ONT?  It would need to be UV rated and probably armored 
since I would prefer to not have to run conduit from the splice closure through 
the exterior wall.

Thanks.

Jason

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[chuck]

They will keep equipment safe.

-Original Message- 
From: Matt

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa


OK, so grounds are related to the problem.

There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power that is
causing the surge suppressor to fire.
Forrest would know much more than I about that.

I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa before.
I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.


I am still having some troubles with PTP450i holding 1gbit ethernet
even with Cambium sync.  Not near as bad with Cambium Sync though.
Will these gas tube versions work any better?  Will they still keep
equipment safe? 

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

[chuck]

I just hate indoor ONTs.  People do not respect the fiber.  It gets cut and 
mangled etc.  
I guess if  you are nailing the ONT on the wall somewhere, but if it is similar 
to a modem on someone’s desk you are asking for trouble.  

From: Craig Schmaderer 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

Clearfield flexible fieldshield patch cables with removable end. Run from 
outside splice box to inside ont. Almost always use the 25 footers. Expensive.  
$45. I have yet found a better solution that doesn’t involve more labor. 




From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie 

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:10:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber 

Currently I just run a flat drop fiber to an enclosure on the side of the 
building, then cat5 inside. 

Those of you doing indoor ONTs, what are you using for fiber from the outdoor 
splice closure to the ONT?  It would need to be UV rated and probably armored 
since I would prefer to not have to run conduit from the splice closure through 
the exterior wall.

Thanks.

Jason

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

[chuck]

Not only that, you can field terminate the drop with a unicam for about $15
So no $45 jumper.  

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

I just hate indoor ONTs.  People do not respect the fiber.  It gets cut and 
mangled etc.  
I guess if  you are nailing the ONT on the wall somewhere, but if it is similar 
to a modem on someone’s desk you are asking for trouble.  

From: Craig Schmaderer 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

Clearfield flexible fieldshield patch cables with removable end. Run from 
outside splice box to inside ont. Almost always use the 25 footers. Expensive.  
$45. I have yet found a better solution that doesn’t involve more labor. 




From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie 

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:10:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber 

Currently I just run a flat drop fiber to an enclosure on the side of the 
building, then cat5 inside. 

Those of you doing indoor ONTs, what are you using for fiber from the outdoor 
splice closure to the ONT?  It would need to be UV rated and probably armored 
since I would prefer to not have to run conduit from the splice closure through 
the exterior wall.

Thanks.

Jason

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

[Jason McKemie]

Flat drop termination for $15?  That could be useful, any part numbers?

I'd probably just run it through the wall and mount the ONT to a floor
joist when possible.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:14 PM,  wrote:

> Not only that, you can field terminate the drop with a unicam for about $15
> So no $45 jumper.
>
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber
>
> I just hate indoor ONTs.  People do not respect the fiber.  It gets cut
> and mangled etc.
> I guess if  you are nailing the ONT on the wall somewhere, but if it is
> similar to a modem on someone’s desk you are asking for trouble.
>
> *From:* Craig Schmaderer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:19 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber
>
> Clearfield flexible fieldshield patch cables with removable end. Run from
> outside splice box to inside ont. Almost always use the 25 footers.
> Expensive.  $45. I have yet found a better solution that doesn’t involve
> more labor.
>
> --
> *From:* Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:10:56 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber
>
> Currently I just run a flat drop fiber to an enclosure on the side of the
> building, then cat5 inside.
>
> Those of you doing indoor ONTs, what are you using for fiber from the
> outdoor splice closure to the ONT?  It would need to be UV rated and
> probably armored since I would prefer to not have to run conduit from the
> splice closure through the exterior wall.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jason
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fw: Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited Time Only!

[Robert]

And that price with the tarriffs?

On 3/28/18 4:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

*From:* Affordable Solar
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:55 PM
*To:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Subject:* Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited Time Only!

Affordable Solar News and product Information
Affordable Solar Logo 
 




  *Hyundai 285 and Q-cell 295*


  Order Today!





*Hyundai's RG Black series* includes PERL technology whihc provides 
ultra-high efficiency with better performance in low irradiation. 
Maximize installation capacity in limited space.




On you phone? Tap to Call & Order Yours Today! 
 





Interested in exclusive installer benefits?

Apply Now 
 



Unrivaled Benefits and Pricing

4840 Pan American East FWY NE Albuquerque, NM, 87109
Don't like these emails? Unsubscribe using the links below.
Follow us for updates.
Follow us on Twitter 
 
Follow us on LinkedIn 
 



Copyright © 1998–2017 Affordable Solar. All rights reserved.




	You are subscribed as . Click here 
 
to manage your email subscription preferences.
Click here 
 
or reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject to unsubscribe 
from this list or if you feel you have received this message in error.
This message was sent from Affordable Solar 4840 Pan American East Fwy 
NE Albuquerque NM 87109 US. Click here 
 
to report email abuse.

Re: [AFMUG] Getting gooder at this

[Mitch Koep]

But you used the wrong size LOL


On 3/28/2018 8:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Installed tubing for gas sensors...we have to custom cut and bend 
around existing pipes...


Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Getting gooder at this

[Jaime Solorza]

For this? Nope...these are used to calibrate and test sensors from outside
clarifier.  It's all Sagelok stainless still stuff...all kinds of corrosive
gases along with toxic ones as well

Jaime Solorza

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 8:01 PM Mitch Koep  wrote:

> But you used the wrong size LOL
>
>
> On 3/28/2018 8:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> > Installed tubing for gas sensors...we have to custom cut and bend
> > around existing pipes...
> >
> > Jaime Solorza
>
>

[AFMUG] Cable protector for Steve

[Adam Moffett]

I tripped over these pics when looking for the fiber demarc pic.

Steve had asked last week about protecting cable from dogs. I do this 
for weed trimmers, but a longer piece ought to limit canine access as 
well.


I cut the slot in the conduit so I can slip it over an already installed 
cable.  I did that one on the bumper with an angle grinder, but a table 
saw might be safer.





Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fw: Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited Time Only!

[Chuck McCown]

That is your landed price.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fw: Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited Time 
Only!


And that price with the tarriffs?

On 3/28/18 4:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

*From:* Affordable Solar
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:55 PM
*To:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Subject:* Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited Time Only!

Affordable Solar News and product Information
Affordable Solar Logo 




  *Hyundai 285 and Q-cell 295*


  Order Today!





*Hyundai's RG Black series* includes PERL technology whihc provides 
ultra-high efficiency with better performance in low irradiation. Maximize 
installation capacity in limited space.




On you phone? Tap to Call & Order Yours Today! 





Interested in exclusive installer benefits?

Apply Now 



Unrivaled Benefits and Pricing

4840 Pan American East FWY NE Albuquerque, NM, 87109
Don't like these emails? Unsubscribe using the links below.
Follow us for updates.
Follow us on Twitter 
 
Follow us on LinkedIn 



Copyright © 1998–2017 Affordable Solar. All rights reserved.




You are subscribed as . Click here 
 
to manage your email subscription preferences.
Click here 
 
or reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject to unsubscribe 
from this list or if you feel you have received this message in error.
This message was sent from Affordable Solar 4840 Pan American East Fwy NE 
Albuquerque NM 87109 US. Click here 
 
to report email abuse.

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

[Chuck McCown]

https://www.corning.com/worldwide/en/products/communication-networks/products/unicam-connectors-resource-center.html


From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

Flat drop termination for $15?  That could be useful, any part numbers? 

I'd probably just run it through the wall and mount the ONT to a floor joist 
when possible.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:14 PM,  wrote:

  Not only that, you can field terminate the drop with a unicam for about $15
  So no $45 jumper.  

  From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:11 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

  I just hate indoor ONTs.  People do not respect the fiber.  It gets cut and 
mangled etc.  
  I guess if  you are nailing the ONT on the wall somewhere, but if it is 
similar to a modem on someone’s desk you are asking for trouble.  

  From: Craig Schmaderer 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:19 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

  Clearfield flexible fieldshield patch cables with removable end. Run from 
outside splice box to inside ont. Almost always use the 25 footers. Expensive.  
$45. I have yet found a better solution that doesn’t involve more labor. 


--

  From: Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie 

  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:10:56 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber 

  Currently I just run a flat drop fiber to an enclosure on the side of the 
building, then cat5 inside. 

  Those of you doing indoor ONTs, what are you using for fiber from the outdoor 
splice closure to the ONT?  It would need to be UV rated and probably armored 
since I would prefer to not have to run conduit from the splice closure through 
the exterior wall.

  Thanks.

  Jason

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fw: Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited Time Only!

[Jon Langeler]

What about controller and such? Recommendations? 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> That is your landed price.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Robert
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:19 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fw: Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited Time 
> Only!
> 
> And that price with the tarriffs?
> 
>> On 3/28/18 4:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>> *From:* Affordable Solar
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:55 PM
>> *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Subject:* Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited Time Only!
>> 
>> Affordable Solar News and product Information
>> Affordable Solar Logo 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  *Hyundai 285 and Q-cell 295*
>> 
>> 
>>  Order Today!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Hyundai's RG Black series* includes PERL technology whihc provides 
>> ultra-high efficiency with better performance in low irradiation. Maximize 
>> installation capacity in limited space.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On you phone? Tap to Call & Order Yours Today! 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Interested in exclusive installer benefits?
>> 
>> Apply Now 
>> 
>> 
>> Unrivaled Benefits and Pricing
>> 
>> 4840 Pan American East FWY NE Albuquerque, NM, 87109
>> Don't like these emails? Unsubscribe using the links below.
>> Follow us for updates.
>> Follow us on Twitter 
>> 
>>  Follow us on LinkedIn 
>> 
>> 
>> Copyright © 1998–2017 Affordable Solar. All rights reserved.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You are subscribed as . Click here 
>> 
>>  to manage your email subscription preferences.
>> Click here 
>> 
>>  or reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject to unsubscribe 
>> from this list or if you feel you have received this message in error.
>> This message was sent from Affordable Solar 4840 Pan American East Fwy NE 
>> Albuquerque NM 87109 US. Click here 
>> 
>>  to report email abuse.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fw: Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited TimeOnly!

[Chuck McCown]

I like grid tie inverters.  Chint is one brand that I have use quite a 
number of.  Hard to go wring with Sunny Boy.


-Original Message- 
From: Jon Langeler

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fw: Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited 
TimeOnly!


What about controller and such? Recommendations?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.



On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

That is your landed price.

-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fw: Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited 
Time Only!


And that price with the tarriffs?


On 3/28/18 4:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
*From:* Affordable Solar
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:55 PM
*To:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Subject:* Hyundai 285 Black on Black 59c/watt Limited Time Only!

Affordable Solar News and product Information
Affordable Solar Logo 




 *Hyundai 285 and Q-cell 295*


 Order Today!





*Hyundai's RG Black series* includes PERL technology whihc provides 
ultra-high efficiency with better performance in low irradiation. 
Maximize installation capacity in limited space.




On you phone? Tap to Call & Order Yours Today! 





Interested in exclusive installer benefits?

Apply Now 



Unrivaled Benefits and Pricing

4840 Pan American East FWY NE Albuquerque, NM, 87109
Don't like these emails? Unsubscribe using the links below.
Follow us for updates.
Follow us on Twitter 
 
Follow us on LinkedIn 



Copyright © 1998–2017 Affordable Solar. All rights reserved.




You are subscribed as . Click here 
 
to manage your email subscription preferences.
Click here 
 
or reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject to unsubscribe 
from this list or if you feel you have received this message in error.
This message was sent from Affordable Solar 4840 Pan American East Fwy NE 
Albuquerque NM 87109 US. Click here 
 
to report email abuse. 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable protector for Steve

[Steve Jones]

i have a pipe on the top of the van that holds 10 foot sticks so some PVC
conduit would work. On that note, any trick on keeping 8 or 6 foot sticks
as you cut them down in the pipe on top of the van without the other pipes
pushing them up?

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I tripped over these pics when looking for the fiber demarc pic.
>
> Steve had asked last week about protecting cable from dogs. I do this for
> weed trimmers, but a longer piece ought to limit canine access as well.
>
> I cut the slot in the conduit so I can slip it over an already installed
> cable.  I did that one on the bumper with an angle grinder, but a table saw
> might be safer.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable protector for Steve

[Adam Moffett]

No trick.  I just tuck them inside somewhere.

I wish I had pics of my brother's Time Warner Cable van.  He was 
impressively well organized.



-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/28/2018 10:44:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable protector for Steve

i have a pipe on the top of the van that holds 10 foot sticks so some 
PVC conduit would work. On that note, any trick on keeping 8 or 6 foot 
sticks as you cut them down in the pipe on top of the van without the 
other pipes pushing them up?


On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

I tripped over these pics when looking for the fiber demarc pic.

Steve had asked last week about protecting cable from dogs. I do this 
for weed trimmers, but a longer piece ought to limit canine access as 
well.


I cut the slot in the conduit so I can slip it over an already 
installed cable.  I did that one on the bumper with an angle grinder, 
but a table saw might be safer.









Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] Cable protector for Steve

[Steve Jones]

i took over the installers van while hes got broken bones, i have it pretty
"organized"
but the other day i had to do 7 ubnt with reflectors to epmp swaps, how
does one organize that volume of dishes?


On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> No trick.  I just tuck them inside somewhere.
>
> I wish I had pics of my brother's Time Warner Cable van.  He was
> impressively well organized.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/28/2018 10:44:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable protector for Steve
>
> i have a pipe on the top of the van that holds 10 foot sticks so some PVC
> conduit would work. On that note, any trick on keeping 8 or 6 foot sticks
> as you cut them down in the pipe on top of the van without the other pipes
> pushing them up?
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> I tripped over these pics when looking for the fiber demarc pic.
>>
>> Steve had asked last week about protecting cable from dogs. I do this for
>> weed trimmers, but a longer piece ought to limit canine access as well.
>>
>> I cut the slot in the conduit so I can slip it over an already installed
>> cable.  I did that one on the bumper with an angle grinder, but a table saw
>> might be safer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Brandon Yuchasz]

We did as well. Love it they simply stop passing power though at all. So DEAD 
site.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

 

We’ve had upss  simply shut down below freezing which is totally not cool 

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

Yeah temperature compensation is an oft overlooked feature.

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Jon Langeler" 

To: af@afmug.com

Sent: 3/27/2018 7:13:57 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

 

How do they handle say 0 deg F?

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband  wrote:

OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP.

 

However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion 
batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet.   It does 
have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your phones.   
We like them for micro sites.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [  mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin Marshall
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM
To:   af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

 

Hi,

 

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via 
SNMP over ethernet?

Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?

Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
like Powerchute, etc…

 

Thanks,

Justin

 

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I've always lucked out and been able to get a used PCTEL/MAXRAD commercial
ones.   They're about $160 street price new.   GPS-TMG-40NMS as an example.

Not sure if these are good for GLONASS and the like though

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Which antenna do you  recommend?
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:02 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
>
> Every external 'commercial' GPS antenna that I've seen has a N connector
> on the bottom of it.   You can buy 'cheap chinese outdoor' GPS antennas
> with a long lead and a SMA connector on the end as wellbut I'm not sure
> I'd trust those.
>
> On the equipment end, there doesn't seem to be a standard.   I have gear
> with SMA, N, BNC and even F connectors for the GPS antenna.   The cambium
> CMM's (CMM4 and earlier) seem to use BNC's.   The LMG equipment uses N
> connectors.   One of my two GPSDO's uses a F connector, the other uses a
> SMA.   I have two symmetricam GPS distribution amplifiers which both have
> all N connectors.   I have a GPS re-radiator amplifier which uses SMA
> connectors.
>
> I think it's safe to expect the outside antenna to have a N connector on
> it, since you probably don't want the cheap chinese antennas since they
> seem to fail on a fairly regular basis (poor quality electronics inside
> them).   What you use on the inside probably can just be decided based on
> your mechanicals, not as per any standard.
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> What does the CMM line of products use for an antenna?
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:59 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
>>
>> I have done N to SMA adapter on two jobs where antenna had N connectors.
>> But most of the GPS antennas install in vehicle for tracking or 4G LTE
>> mobile NVRs have been SMA.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:54 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> But if you have to install an outdoor GPS antenna, are you OK with
>>> terminating an SMA on a cable for that?  Like RG58 or LMR195?
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:49 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
>>>
>>> SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in several
>>> manufacturing plants across border.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
 What kind of RF connectors are prefered?

 I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that
 someday).  It is rack mounted.
 But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will
 most likely have to terminate the cable.
 BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.

 What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?

>>>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com