Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help
AFMUG: Come for the tech talk; Stay for the snark.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT need apple help
Step one: Remove any peripherals
Step two: remove all power sources
Step three: throw in trash
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Try this:
http://mashable.com/2013/10/23/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/
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On 12/29/2014 11:05 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
One of our office ladies bought an Apple laptop and it has a recovery or
firmware password on it. That's all that was explained to me. Is there any way
to make this thing work? I haven't touched an Apple since high school, and I
think that was pre OSX.
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you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. --
IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
I didn’t get past the headline.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 8:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
That was extremely difficult for me to read...
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On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
DPRK Will Not Tolerate Human Rights Racket of US and Its Allies
The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following statement on
November 23:
We have already seriously warned of the catastrophic consequences to be
entailed by the reckless anti-DPRK human rights racket kicked up by the US
and it followers.
This warning was aimed to help cool their heads overheated by confrontation and
hostile policy, though belatedly, and refrain from committing another
anachronistic criminal act of challenging justice after judging the gravity of
the situation with reason.
This measure taken by us aroused deep sympathy of the public at home and abroad
and various righteous and upright countries made every possible effort to put
the situation under control while voicing opposition to the US-orchestrated
human rights racket against the DPRK.
We feel sincerely thankful for this and will always remember it.
However, the US, steeped in brigandish bad habit, finally perpetrated such
reckless action as fabricating the anti-DPRK resolution on human rights at
the UN by manipulating riff-raffs bereft of elementary view and principle,
instead of thinking twice.
The US let the EU and Japan draft the resolution and UN member states blindly
following and obeying it voted for it.
This hideous charade staged in the international arena is a shameless,
politically-motivated farce to suppress justice with injustice and cover truth
with lies and the height of impudent burlesque to deceive the world people.
What happened there is lashing our service personnel and people into great fury
and their determination to make retaliation against this is running high.
The US and its followers are now unable to escape merciless punishment for
daring impair the prestige of the DPRK and foolishly trying to bring down the
socialist system, the cradle of our people.
The US and its followers adopted the extremely unreasonable resolution on
human rights against the DPRK and, not content with this, continue behaving
impudently as if they had put it in an awkward position. The NDC of the DPRK
solemnly declares the following principled stand in this regard:
Firstly, our army and people categorically deny and reject the resolution on
human rights fabricated by the US and its allies by abusing UN.
We have never recognized any resolution worked out by the US-led undesirable
hostile forces to encroach upon our sovereignty and vital rights.
The same is the case with the present resolution.
This is because the present resolution is a fabrication made on the basis of
misinformation provided by a handful of human scum who fled the country after
committing unpardonable crimes before our country and its people and abandoning
their native places and parents and wives and children.
It is also because the resolution is a product of political fraud as it was
railroaded through highhanded and arbitrary practices, allurement and bribery
by hostile forces including the US, without expression of the free will of UN
member states that sympathize with justice and value conscience.
Worse still, the resolution was adopted under the manipulation of the US
which has sought the infringement upon our sovereignty in violation of the UN
Charter which considers respect for the sovereignty of all countries and
non-interference in their internal affairs as a basic principle.
This resolution may work on those poor guys who throw away human dignity like
a pair of old shoes, steeped in sycophancy and submission.
But it can never work on the DPRK, highly dignified with independence and
demonstrating its might with self-defence and self-reliance.
The US and Japan are the worst human rights abusers as they have mercilessly
trampled down the peoples' rights to exist and live and develop and took
countless human lives in Korea and other parts of the world for centuries. And
such riff-raffs as the Park Geun Hye group of south Korea kowtowing to them
joined them in sponsoring the above-said resolution reminiscent of a thief
crying Stop the thief! This cannot but be a tragicomedy unprecedented in
history.
Our army and people urge the Obama administration to make a formal apology by
bending its knees before us for its crimes.
This stand of ours is a warning served to Japan and riff-raffs of the EU as
well as the Park Geun Hye group that they can also never go scot-free.
This stand of the DPRK is, at the same time, a warning served to the UN to make
haste to take a fair measure to put the situation under control,
Re: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?
Oof… Right in the nostalgia. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down? ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/windows/msdos/RESKIT/SUPPDISK/NIBBLES.BAS From: Josh Luthman via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 1:25 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down? I can't play a single player game... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Yep my brother can't play his new game Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Well, at least they took down both, so as to not give an unfair advantage to one. :P From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ken Hohhof via Af [af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down? https://gigaom.com/2014/12/25/scrooges-strike-xbox-live-playstation-network-hacked-outage/
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Definitely CGI. Notice how the HUD is always drawing for the camera’s point of view, not the drivers themselves. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
Chrome plugins causing the drop, perhaps? Even naked Chrome runs pretty heavy
on resources.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson via Af
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
AFMUG server must have stripped the jpgs, because they are attached in the send
folder, but when I received my own message the jpgs were gone.
Anywho, I am seeing several hundred megs difference between IE and Chrome on
several machine to several different servers in Utah.
I get about 900Mbps both ways with IE and about 6-700Mbps in Chrome.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
no attachment...
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On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has changed
speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE.
And it USED to work just fine with Chrome, but they changed something in the
past month.
Anyone else seeing this?
It's very apparent at Gigabit speeds, see attached.
Same everything except using IE instead of Chrome.
Noticed this on several machines and several host servers on speedtest.net
Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
Woof. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now. Netflix says 25Mbps sustained. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 12/09/2014 02:56 PM, Chris Wright via Af wrote: Sustained? I can imagine Netflix hitting those speeds right now, but only to fill the buffer. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:42 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now. about that from my testing, but I have seen my Netfilx go as high as 28 meg On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: What's the bandwidth requirement for 4k streaming? I've heard around 10 to 15 meg. Ryan Ghering via Af wrote: http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/ -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475tel:970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879tel:970-630-1879 -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
It isn’t. I fondly recall the first pirated blu-ray discs (before the
encryption keys were leaked) were copied by script kiddies who had the playback
computer pause and print-screen the video frame-by-frame.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
I've always thought that all this hype of digital encryption and copy
protection was a little lacking. Ultimately it's still an analog medium (you
viewing the picture) so it could always be 'copied' at that level. Interpret
the signal passed to the actual LCD Panel, Pixel 1342x975 displaying color
E0 at timestamp 58:44:13.221 Maybe I'm naive, but it doesn't seem like it
should be that hard.
On 12/9/2014 10:18 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM, they
could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Because then people could save the movies in RAM, and someone would figure
out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet for free.
It's a licensing issue... that's why streaming is OK.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour. Why not stick in a 32GB
memory and be done? That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.
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On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming services
can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing deals, but if
they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they would have much
fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.
Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage space. At
current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full retail... so places
like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less than $2. Seems like it
would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could
handle 60 seconds of video.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
That’s pretty cool.
You can do 4k direct from Youtube.
Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.
But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a while, then
burst back to 90Mbps.
I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on the built
in TV’s.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
Lovely
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/
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Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
Sustained? I can imagine Netflix hitting those speeds right now, but only to fill the buffer. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now. about that from my testing, but I have seen my Netfilx go as high as 28 meg On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: What's the bandwidth requirement for 4k streaming? I've heard around 10 to 15 meg. Ryan Ghering via Af wrote: http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/ -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475tel:970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879tel:970-630-1879 -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
[AFMUG] Mikrotik and Simple Queues - Download not working
I have a simple queue configured to limit upload to 2mbps and download to 10mbps on a specific IP address. It limits the upload speed perfectly, but the download traffic remains unthrottled. Download packets are not graphed in the simple queue Traffic tab, yet the interface itself shows Tx speeds through the roof. Thoughts? [admin@MikroTik] /queue simple print Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic 0name=10/2 target=xxx.xxx.xxx.249/32 parent=none packet-marks= priority=8/8 queue=default-small/default-small limit-at=0/0 max-limit=2M/10M burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/ Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/
Re: [AFMUG] OT did you guys (and gals) see this?
Why post the paper? There was an intensive lecture with QA on the whole ordeal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 8:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT did you guys (and gals) see this? I’m having a little trouble following the math but I’m not sure if I agree with his results. It’s Thanksgiving, I believe he should have included the derivative of the Turkey. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke via Af Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 7:07 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT did you guys (and gals) see this? https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: http://www.vox.com/2014/11/21/7259207/scientific-paper-scam
Re: [AFMUG] test
Polo. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Heide via Af Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] test test Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 www.velociter.nethttp://www.velociter.net/
Re: [AFMUG] How common are crc errors on pmp100
I see that all the time with damaged Ethernet. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How common are crc errors on pmp100 0.0001% discards doesn't sound too bad to me Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Craig Schmaderer via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: This is a radio that has been up for 93 days, it is very heavy on traffic, would you say there is an issue with this radio? It is on a clean tower that only I am on. There are 4 other canopy radios on this tower receiving sync from a CTM1. All radios are just CAT5e cable non shielded, length is about 180’ tops. Also there is a PTP800 with lmr 400 ran along with it, I never noticed this before, all other radios are showing about the same number of CRC errors, is this expectable? Ethernet Link Detected : 1 Ethernet Link Lost : 0 Undersized Toss Count : 0 inoctets Count : 4054728244tel:4054728244 inucastpkts Count : 1954469296 Innucastpkts Count : 56834740 indiscards Count : 0 inerrors Count : 231695 inunknownprotos Count : 0 outoctets Count : 3150773755 outucastpktsCount : 1289988260 outnucastpkts Count : 1597027 outdiscards Count : 0 outerrors Count : 0 RxBabErr : 0 TxHbErr : 0 EthBusErr : 0 CRCError : 231601 RcvFifoNoBuf : 94 RxOverrun : 0 LateCollision : 0 RetransLimitExp : 0 TxUnderrun : 0 CarSenseLost : 0 No Carrier : 0 Craig R. Schmaderer CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc. Ph: 402-372-1975tel:402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058tel:402-372-1058 Direct: 402-372-1052tel:402-372-1052
Re: [AFMUG] Company Facebook Page
I try to keep it to things a bit personal, a bit technical, but never sales-pitchy. People don’t go to your facebook to be sold something, they go because you are giving them something of value (funny tech comic, educational information, etc.) https://www.facebook.com/pages/Velociter-Wireless/126091380749224 Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Company Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/ZIRKELwireless On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Anybody have a company Facebook page that they are particularly proud of? Looking for some creative ideas (posts) to use on ours Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800tel:772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352tel:772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
The controller is not a permanent fixture. You use your laptop w/ the controller software, setup the AP’s, then leave. They’ll operate on their own just fine. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses Can't stand unifi, have them came up with a way to do it without a controller? What do you do if the customer doesn't have a windows machine? Install a unifi server ? On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: UBNT UniFi...one SSID On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM, TJ Trout via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: What are you guys doing to cover large homes with good wifi coverage? Any options besides multiple routers with multiple ssid's? Does rukus or someone make something with true roaming?
Re: [AFMUG] private company Instant Messaging
We’re using Openfire here as well. As far as clients, any XMMP client is compatible, we use Spark. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Charles Boening via Af Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private company Instant Messaging We use Openfirehttp://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/index.jsp and the JAJChttp://jajc.jrudevels.org/ (Just Another Jabber Client) as the client. We have Openfire integrated with our AD domain. JAJC is automatically deployed (copied, no install required) to new clients via login scripts. JAJC automatically logs-in when it launches. The JAJC client is pretty simple overall and works decent. We’ve thought about moving either to Trillian’s hosted product or licensing their product for in-house use. It’s just hard to justify replacing something that’s working. Charlie __ Charles Boening Network Manager 800-858-2399 | Office charl...@calore.netmailto:charl...@calore.net www.cot.nethttp://www.cot.net/ | Find us on Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Cal-Ore/205066716227707 __ Cal-Ore | Real. Local. Trusted. Professional. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:29 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private company Instant Messaging We use spark, http://www.igniterealtime.org/downloads/ its pretty easy to setup you can have it monitor a notification email address so it blasts a set of users if there is an issue, we had it set up to notify Customer service Staff if there was a device on the network that went down It has SIP client From the boss perspective its nice because you can log all communications You can even cobble realtime chat into your webserver for customers to talk to staff On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I just started using Slack with one of my clients. Hard to gauge how useful it is since their internal IM volume seems to have diminished after a reorganization. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 8:55:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private company Instant Messaging Check slack.comhttp://slack.com Web based, but also clients available for iOS,mac os, win and android. Includes file sharing and connections to lots of apps Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2014 at 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private company Instant Messaging We're getting ready to deploy Lync company-wide. Also, I think one of the call centers runs some open source thing called spark. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 8:08 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] private company Instant Messaging Anybody have suggestions on a good IM program to use for internal use? Not a fan of having any of the commercial ones being used by employees because its too tempting for them to use to talk with their friends. We have a No-IM policy and people respect that so looking for a good one I can just run internally for own quick communication Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800tel:772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352tel:772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik CCR and PPPoE
What kind of bandwidth are your 1600 sessions pulling? Last time we tested it struggled to get past 500mbps. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies via Af Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 1:29 PM To: Matt via Af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik CCR and PPPoE Matt, How has it been running the past few days? How many PPPoE sessions? We have a ccr1016-12 with about 1600 pppoe sessions running. Running 6.4, have wanted to update it being it is working. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Friday, October 24, 2014, 1:51:36 PM, you wrote: MvA Recently updated to a 36 core CCR as a PPPoE server. Was having MvA some issues with higher tier packages such as our office getting MvA more than 20mbps through a single connection. IPv6 seemed to MvA perform better then IPv4 for speed tests. Upgraded the CCR from MvA v6.17 to v6.20. Now every pppoe connection is screaming fast. I MvA don't know what Mikrotik did but something has changed. I wonder MvA if they did anything with there BGP code? We have another one MvA doing a couple gigabit full BGP connections. Seems to work fine MvA but one core is almost always at 100 percent. Its currently running v6.19. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Pretty sweet new cambium program ;)
Pure poetry. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Pretty sweet new cambium program ;) I like the ad copy from the cambium spam today.. sounds pretty tempting.. The More AP's You Buy redirect_url-12-- data-bislr-page=website_page_CBD02AAB-775C-49AE-8262-E3215A54CB51 style=color: #024984; text-decoration: underline;Sign up today! Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.comhttp://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.commailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Random thought
I don't disagree with your sentiment, but cable companies are offering stupid-fast plans now thanks to Google Fiber in more and more markets. Comcast is doubling speeds for free in some of their markets now. I doubt WISPs will ever win over the average residential customer who is eligible for cable and knows it (unless they're leaving on principle or something like that). Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of cstanners--- via Af Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Random thought It's interesting that we needed Ubiquiti to push forward the industry by creating a high-end/high-capacity backhaul at a very low price, and Cambium to do the same by creating a wifi-chip-based/value-priced PtMP and mid-capacity PtP system that has GPS sync and seems to work very well. A few years ago when Canopy was stuck at 14mbit FSK, I was wondering how the WISP industry would survive. Now with Canopy450 and those more cost-effective options, things are looking very competitive against DSL, and even some cable.
Re: [AFMUG] Accedian/Performant/R-Flo woes
1.2.8.6_21016 released in June of this year. http://forum.performantnetworks.com/threads/2015.1438/ Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Jenkins via Af Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:20 PM To: Timothy D. McNabb via Af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Accedian/Performant/R-Flo woes I have a tub of equipment I really wanted to deploy. It's not being actively developed, so I have not deployed it. Are you running the latest software? Original message From: Timothy D. McNabb via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: 10/16/2014 1:58 PM (GMT-07:00) To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Accedian/Performant/R-Flo woes Does anyone here on the list use Performant Nurons/Mind combination? What did you find worked best? -Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 5:00 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Accedian/Performant/R-Flo woes We’ve been sitting on a Performant Mind and four Nurons for almost a year now. They sat for six months, then I spent another six months tinkering with them here and there. Regardless of their EOL, we’re looking to implement – but I’m running into the silliest of issues. I can’t even get traffic from the Mind to a Nuron to pass without 20% packet loss. This is without any routing, wireless backhauls, nothing. Just a VLAN-tagged NIC plugged straight into the Mind, Ethernet from Mind to a Nuron (where the vlan “pops”), then Ethernet to a second computer. I’ve replaced the SFP adapters, the nuron, and verified none of the Ethernet cables are bad by literally coupling them all down a line and going straight from computer 1 to computer 2. No issue there. This, combined with the fact that this stuff is going to be EOL in three years, is maddening. My boss was under the impression that this should be able to seamlessly integrate into our star topology (nuron at every tower making a ring), but we can’t even get basic LAN functions to work reliably. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/
Re: [AFMUG] More over the top
One would think that, but Hulu runs commercials and they're doing fine. That said, I'm doing fine not giving Hulu any of my money. I want no part in paying someone just to have them occupy my time with spam. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More over the top That would seem insulting. bp On 10/16/2014 3:03 PM, Matt via Af wrote: So will there still be commercials? On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: #diecabletv Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Thursday, October 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] More over the top CBS http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/business/cbs-to-offer-web-subscription-service.html Tushar
[AFMUG] Accedian/Performant/R-Flo woes
We've been sitting on a Performant Mind and four Nurons for almost a year now. They sat for six months, then I spent another six months tinkering with them here and there. Regardless of their EOL, we're looking to implement - but I'm running into the silliest of issues. I can't even get traffic from the Mind to a Nuron to pass without 20% packet loss. This is without any routing, wireless backhauls, nothing. Just a VLAN-tagged NIC plugged straight into the Mind, Ethernet from Mind to a Nuron (where the vlan pops), then Ethernet to a second computer. I've replaced the SFP adapters, the nuron, and verified none of the Ethernet cables are bad by literally coupling them all down a line and going straight from computer 1 to computer 2. No issue there. This, combined with the fact that this stuff is going to be EOL in three years, is maddening. My boss was under the impression that this should be able to seamlessly integrate into our star topology (nuron at every tower making a ring), but we can't even get basic LAN functions to work reliably. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza
They are listening via the covert microphones the placed inside those commie environmentalist lights you installed. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza I just replaced some old fluorescent tube lights in our kitchen with some LED lights. Hope I didn't break any code rules. Also hope the NSA isn't listening... bp On 10/13/2014 12:08 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: I wonder if that applies to stuff the homeowner does? If so, then the ARRL may want to weigh in. From: Travis Johnson via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza In the town of Jackson Hole, Wyoming... any wire carrying ANY amount of voltage (even DISH TV coax, plain ethernet (not even PoE), telephone, etc.) you have to first get a permit from the city before doing the installation. It's like a $35 fee and takes up to two weeks. Travis On 10/13/2014 12:46 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: A phone cable carries current. The USB wire to your smart phone carries current. All wires are designed to carry current. There should be a distinction about whether the current has the potential to be lethal. Unless you're an electrician. In which case this makes for super good job security. bp On 10/13/2014 11:40 AM, Ryan Spott via Af wrote: Yeah. It was a little ugly. It pretty much boiled down to: if you are placing wires that could have current placed on them then you should be an electrician. (Read that sentence carefully for humor and horror!) Just check your local code interpretations to not get smacked. ryan -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284x-apple-data-detectors://0/0 360-799-0552tel:360-799-0552 | gtalk:rsp...@irongoat.netmailto:rsp...@irongoat.net On Oct 13, 2014, at 11:01, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Oh wow! That’s like every single WISP operator then! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott via Af Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:45 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza Check your local electrical codes for wiring power over Ethernet. Things got sticky in WA state over this issue and it took considerable effort to change the electrical rules. ryan On Oct 13, 2014, at 07:38, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah GigE PoE. The GigE PoE adapters are cheap and work well with the RB260 models. I like it that way, then the customer can decide if they want to put on 100 hours of battery backup or not. We just maintain the outside device at the Demarc on the side of their house. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 12:44 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza stupid question, but i know the fiber mikrotik stuff / demarc still needs power. what if the point you enter the house does not have power right there? how do you hook that up? utilize POE in some shape, form, or fashion? - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini via Afmailto:af@afmug.com To: mailto:af@afmug.com%3e Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza Still using the firce10 switches? Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Our ROI is 5 years. We fund per neighborhood and usually come out easily paying out the 5 years monthly on the loan plus plenty left over for operations. Our build costs to the home are skewed because we build at cost. It’s going to vary a lot by your market and circumstance. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:58 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza Any numbers on what it costs to serve an average urban or suburban neighborhood per home ? Trying to get some ideas if we can afford the investment in fiber. Like what would it cost to serve say 100 or 200 homes? And idea on roi if you were paying for the fiber to be laid like I will be? On Oct 11, 2014 9:46 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Hybrid model, I bring bandwidth in via wireless to the neighborhood and set up a cabinet that serves all the houses in active Ethernet fiber. GPON is ok, but in this model so much of the expense was burial of conduit that it really didn’t make sense to just pull for GPON. Plus GPON restricts you to a specific vendor market. My model might not scale to thousands of installs a month, but it works
Re: [AFMUG] Check out our TV add
Estoy hablando español. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:02 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Check out our TV add Bien chido! Le doy un diez Jaime Solorza On Oct 10, 2014 7:52 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Its in spanish, but I think its great! Hope you like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCb-sed-O18feature=youtu.be Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] name
The infinite is unknown at Rise Broadband. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] name It's coming... Just like http://www.zombo.com/ On 10/8/2014 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: So, are you going to tell us? -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] name Name name... what's in a name?!?!?!? Rise Broadband is coming...
Re: [AFMUG] Inconsistant 450 linktest
Perhaps the burst bucket is exhausted? Give it ten minutes and run again, perhaps? Is the customer saturating their bandwidth allocation while you run the linktest? Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inconsistant 450 linktest I understand the difference in uplink. My concern is why the SM with better downlink efficiency delivers much lower throughput. I've seen this on other AP's as well. Maybe I'm missing something. On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:53 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Your screenshots appear to be from the SM linktest pages. Notice one is transmitting 4X, thus the 9Mbps uplink. The other is 6X and 14Mbps uplink. For the downlink, look at the AP's session page to see what it's transmitting to those SMs and you'll have your answer. On 10/8/2014 1:38 PM, Eric Muehleisen via Af wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1578608/Public/450_linktest.jpg Two different SM's on the same AP with very similar signal qualities, QoS, etc. However, the linktests are vey different. Has anyone see this before? Software 3.1.3.
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT
True. I bought TSLA at 225 and intend to hold it until at least 2020. That said, I was still pretty sad when it got all the way up to 290 then plummeted. Long term... long term Just keep reminding myself... Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 2:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT oh, it's been quite a rough ride in the market lately. one can get whiplash - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson via Afmailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT Wow... looks like UBNT is struggling on the market the last two weeks. Down to $35 today. Glad I sold at $48 a few weeks ago. :) Who posted it would be at $75 by year's end? Hope they weren't really counting on that... Travis
Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun
A couple pints and a wife. Life is good. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun Going to see Doc Severinsen play tonight. Anybody gonna top that!
Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
Agreed, Dennis. HUGE letdown that Mikrotik hasn't enabled multicore BGP yet. 35 cores go to waste. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE For the moment, anything with more than 1 full bgp feed really should be a x86 product, in v7 that may change, but the limited CPU for BGP in the CCRs is a major factor in our designs for our customers. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.netmailto:den...@linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 - www.linktechs.nethttp://www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+dmburgess=linktechs@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:54 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE I'm a bit confused. What symptoms did you see with your routers? What I got from Chris' description was that the CCR caused his Edge router to bomb. Replacing the CCR didn't fix the problem until they rebooted the Edge router. Did your routers cause other routers to degrade or crash? I'm not sure about there being an issue with 6.19 on the CCR but I can tell you that we saw a similar situation with a CCR that had 6.17 (or possibly older, not sure when we updated it) recently. I would suspect that he's having an issue with BGP on the CCR. In our case, the CCR had 2 full BGP tables, PPPOE and OSPF on it. It took down one of the BGP peers on the Edge router (PowerRouter V3 in our case). I disabled the BGP peer on the Edge for about 5 minutes and everything worked happily. When I started it back up, everything was fine until it randomly happened again. We then shut down the BGP link between the PowerRouter and the CCR. The CCR does not seem to be able to handle more than one BGP table if it's doing anything else. Another CCR seems to be happy as an edge router with 2 full tables on it. It's not doing any other function though and we are in process of ordering an x86 replacement. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE No, our needs are much simpler but we saw similar issues on 5 routers from 750's to 1100's. Went back to 6.15 and haven't had a problem in 3 weeks. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:24 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE Rory, thanks for your reply. Is your setup fairly similar to ours? PPPoE, Accounting, and BGP all done by the Mikrotik? How many sessions do you have and what kind of throughput? Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:16 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE On the older routers, we went back to 6.15 and things have been rock solid. We saw similar problems with 6.19. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 6:39 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE Have you tried taking down the BGP session on the Edge router for a couple minutes and then restart it? From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:37 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE CCR-1036 running RouterOS 6.19 After some serious amounts of testing, we felt our CCR was ready to take the plunge. The core router talks BGP to our two Imagestream Edge routers and gets all 500k+ routes from each in about three minutes. Its PPPoE server manages to authenticate the bulk of nearly 1800 customers in four minutes. All's fine and dandy for about 12 hours, then not so fine and dandy things start happening. Overall traffic that should be near 600mbps seems to top off around 400mbps. Edge 1 goes unresponsive, VRRP doesn't kick in on Edge 2 and the entire network degrades. All devices on our public switch go partially unresponsive to pings including our DNS servers, other various VM's, and ESXi hosts themselves. Here's the fun part: We took the CCR out, just flat out unplugged it and turned on our old Core routers. They start authenticating customers but they're insanely slow in doing it. It's not until we reboot our Edge 1 router that things get back to normal and the old Core routers authenticate at acceptable speeds. Could the CCR be inducing a problem in our Edge routers
Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
Correct. The Mikrotik seemed to incite a delayed (approximately 12 hours) BGP issue in Imagestream Edge 1 that was not fixed until removing the Mikrotik and rebooting Edge 1. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE Okay. That was what I was expecting. Unless I'm reading what Chris wrote wrong, that didn't happen to the CCR. It happened to the Edge router (I think he said it was an Imagestream). Replacing the CCR didn't change that and the replacement (x86?) was very slow until he rebooted the Edge. I agree with not messing around with it. That's why we're ordering a replacement today for the CCR that we have one of our edge connections right now. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE Sorry, I'd have to get my network admin in on this to be more specific. We didn't have BGP on our routers. I can only tell you the symptoms that I was aware of. CPU utilization went to the roof, remote access was really, really slow, and users had high-latency or were dropping connections and this usually occurred within 24-48 hours. I know we didn't do a lot of trouble-shooting, just went back to 6.15 since that was stable on everything else we had. We didn't mess around with it much. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE I'm a bit confused. What symptoms did you see with your routers? What I got from Chris' description was that the CCR caused his Edge router to bomb. Replacing the CCR didn't fix the problem until they rebooted the Edge router. Did your routers cause other routers to degrade or crash? I'm not sure about there being an issue with 6.19 on the CCR but I can tell you that we saw a similar situation with a CCR that had 6.17 (or possibly older, not sure when we updated it) recently. I would suspect that he's having an issue with BGP on the CCR. In our case, the CCR had 2 full BGP tables, PPPOE and OSPF on it. It took down one of the BGP peers on the Edge router (PowerRouter V3 in our case). I disabled the BGP peer on the Edge for about 5 minutes and everything worked happily. When I started it back up, everything was fine until it randomly happened again. We then shut down the BGP link between the PowerRouter and the CCR. The CCR does not seem to be able to handle more than one BGP table if it's doing anything else. Another CCR seems to be happy as an edge router with 2 full tables on it. It's not doing any other function though and we are in process of ordering an x86 replacement. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE No, our needs are much simpler but we saw similar issues on 5 routers from 750's to 1100's. Went back to 6.15 and haven't had a problem in 3 weeks. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:24 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE Rory, thanks for your reply. Is your setup fairly similar to ours? PPPoE, Accounting, and BGP all done by the Mikrotik? How many sessions do you have and what kind of throughput? Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:16 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE On the older routers, we went back to 6.15 and things have been rock solid. We saw similar problems with 6.19. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 6:39 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE Have you tried taking down the BGP session on the Edge router for a couple minutes and then restart it? From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:37 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE CCR-1036 running RouterOS 6.19 After some serious amounts of testing, we felt our CCR was ready to take the plunge. The core router talks BGP to our two Imagestream Edge routers and gets all 500k+ routes from each
[AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
CCR-1036 running RouterOS 6.19 After some serious amounts of testing, we felt our CCR was ready to take the plunge. The core router talks BGP to our two Imagestream Edge routers and gets all 500k+ routes from each in about three minutes. Its PPPoE server manages to authenticate the bulk of nearly 1800 customers in four minutes. All's fine and dandy for about 12 hours, then not so fine and dandy things start happening. Overall traffic that should be near 600mbps seems to top off around 400mbps. Edge 1 goes unresponsive, VRRP doesn't kick in on Edge 2 and the entire network degrades. All devices on our public switch go partially unresponsive to pings including our DNS servers, other various VM's, and ESXi hosts themselves. Here's the fun part: We took the CCR out, just flat out unplugged it and turned on our old Core routers. They start authenticating customers but they're insanely slow in doing it. It's not until we reboot our Edge 1 router that things get back to normal and the old Core routers authenticate at acceptable speeds. Could the CCR be inducing a problem in our Edge routers perhaps? Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/
Re: [AFMUG] Tower search
What, like this? http://ge.fccinfo.com/fccinfo.kmz (open it in Google Earth) Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tower search Any recommendations for an FCC tower search web site other than the FCC tower search web site? I needto do a gps-based lookup to see what other users are listing for the Location Address at this location in the middle of nowhere. The FCC site is going nowhere. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris=velociter@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
