Re: [AFMUG] Austin

[Tushar Patel]

Lol why? You don’t think we have enough competition?

Tushar


> On Apr 2, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
> 
> I would love to serve Austin! 
> 
> From: Af  on behalf of "tpa...@ecpi.com" 
> 
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Monday, April 2, 2018 at 8:56 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Austin
> 
> It is out of our service area. 
> Sorry.
> 
> Tushar
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> On Mar 30, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Eric Markow  wrote:
> 
>> I called and unfortunately it's out of their service area. 
>> 
>> I did find one company, GHz Wireless, but they never answer their phone or 
>> respond to emails, and seem to have poor reviews. Anyone know them? 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>> Western Broadband in Austin Texas. Curiously, Austin is not listed as a 
>>> service city.
>>> 
>>> http://www.westernbroadband.com/contact.php
>>> bp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/30/2018 11:59 AM, Eric Markow wrote:
 Anyone have his contact info? You can email to eric.markow(at)gmail.com
 
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 11:31 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
  wrote:
>  
> I was thinking Tushar...
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Jaime Solorza
> To: Animal Farm
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Austin
> 
> Tushar???
> 
> Jaime Solorza
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 11:21 AM Eric Markow  wrote:
>> Does anyone here service south Austin? 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Eric
 
>>> 
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Austin

[Tushar Patel]

It is out of our service area. 
Sorry.

Tushar


> On Mar 30, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Eric Markow  wrote:
> 
> I called and unfortunately it's out of their service area. 
> 
> I did find one company, GHz Wireless, but they never answer their phone or 
> respond to emails, and seem to have poor reviews. Anyone know them? 
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>> Western Broadband in Austin Texas. Curiously, Austin is not listed as a 
>> service city.
>> 
>> http://www.westernbroadband.com/contact.php
>> bp
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/30/2018 11:59 AM, Eric Markow wrote:
>>> Anyone have his contact info? You can email to eric.markow(at)gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 11:31 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
>>>  wrote:
  
 I was thinking Tushar...
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Jaime Solorza
 To: Animal Farm
 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Austin
 
 Tushar???
 
 Jaime Solorza
 
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 11:21 AM Eric Markow  wrote:
> Does anyone here service south Austin? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Eric
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] From AnimalFarm - Cambium LTE

[Tushar Patel]

When on unlicensed?

Tushar


> On Mar 7, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> If you can believe the slides, both.
>  
> From: Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 7:48 AM
> To: Animal Farm
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] From AnimalFarm - Cambium LTE
>  
> Unlicensed or licensed...
> 
> Jaime Solorza
>  
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018, 7:45 AM Chuck McCown   wrote:
>> Cambium is announcing LTE.   At least this was news to me. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT movie review

[Tushar Patel]

I just did Costco stuff too.

To check in you need last 4 digit of the card, which I guess I have to wait for?

Tushar


> On Jan 7, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> It made reference to receiving a card on the webpage.  So I was worried I 
> would have to actually wait for a physical card to arrive. 
>  
> From: Darin Steffl
> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 10:45 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT movie review
>  
> I bought the Costco deal at 10:50am and received the codes from Csotco at 
> 10:59am.
>  
> I haven't signed up on MoviePass website with the code yet so I'm not sure if 
> there's processing time on their end.
>  
> Give it a try?
>  
> Anyone can purchase the Costco deal even if they're not members. There's like 
> a $4.50 surcharge is all for non-members.
>  
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> If I sign up for the costco deal right now, can I use it in an hour?
>>  
>> From: Darin Steffl
>> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 9:45 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT movie review
>>  
>> Costco even has a deal. I'm signing up for Moviepass now. Didn't even know 
>> there was such a think! Thanks Lewis
>>  
>> $90 for an annual pass.
>>  
>> https://www.costco.com/MoviePass-and-Fandor-12-Month-Subscription-eVoucher.product.100395930.html
>>  
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>> You need to use it before they go bust.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 1/7/2018 8:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
 Are there any limitations to moviepass?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> -- 
>> Darin Steffl
>> Minnesota WiFi
>> www.mnwifi.com
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>  Like us on Facebook
> 
> 
>  
> -- 
> Darin Steffl
> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
>  Like us on Facebook

[AFMUG] SIC code?

[Tushar Patel]

Hi,

 

What sic code we should be using?

 

Is it this?

NAICS Code 517919 - All Other Telecommunications

If not that what else?

 

Thanks,

Tushar

 

Re: [AFMUG] GPS based "compass? <1000$?

[Tushar Patel]

How much that cost?

Tushar


> On Oct 5, 2017, at 7:27 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> 
> Not purely GPS, I think this includes multiple compasses in it. It's a common 
> item for cellular sector alignment jobs, where the alignment specs need to 
> match the carrier's SOW/PWS precisely.
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=3z+alignment+tool=3z+alignment+tool=chrome.0.0l6.1959j0j7=chrome=UTF-8
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Steve Jones  
>> wrote:
>> I already know the manual and visual tricks
>> 
>> Is there a reliable unit for verifying azimuth, gps is all i can assume that 
>> could do this. i see a bunch ranging 3k to 10k that i would guess work 
>> pretty well, is there anything in the 300-1000 budget range that actually 
>> works out there?
> 

[AFMUG] AT & T Rural broadband

[Tushar Patel]

https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/27/att-rural-wireless-internet-expands-to-9
-more-states/

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

[Tushar Patel]

Oh wow. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, we will have to inspect the 
ones we have in our office.

Tushar


> On Apr 19, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins  wrote:
> 
> We had one of many 450i up on a tower for a little over a year and one 
> day it was just offline without any warning. We are located in Northwestern 
> Oregon so we get plenty of rain. Upon investigation the metal case of the 
> radio was not sealed all the way and water slowly seeped in. The unit was 
> full to the top with water. By this time Cambium stated that it was out of 
> warranty and we were burnt. I don't know how many of these units we have in 
> the air are affected. This one is the only one that has died in such a 
> fashion so far. Prior to this I wasn't really inspecting these for this issue 
> and would have thought nothing of it. The seal must be farther inside, right?
> 
> Today I was unpacking one new in box and noticed the very same issue, 
> since now I look for this. We only use the connectorized version so I don't 
> know if this issue is contained or more widespread. Just wanted to throw out 
> a heads up to everyone to keep an eye out for this since I got exactly 
> nowhere with Cambium. 
> 
> I am not trying to pick on Cambium, just bring a recurring issue to light.
> 
> This is a pic of the fried one that was in service for a year:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This is a pic of the brand new one I took out of the box today next to one 
> that looks fine:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Matt Hopkins
> Network Administrator
> 503.687.1030
> supp...@onlinenw.com
> onlinenw.com
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450M

[Tushar Patel]

I agree with Adam, we have to be able to install out of the box.


Tushar


> On Apr 17, 2017, at 6:10 PM, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
> 
> The 450M which has 3 ports only seems to come with one cable pass-through!!
>  
> Anyone know where I can buy extra of these metal pass-throughs?
>  
> Cambium, Please could you provide all 3 pass-throughs?  We should be able to 
> install this out of the box without having to go and buy extras???
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Adam

Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs 450i

[Tushar Patel]

 AP 
>>>>>>> capacity. You could probably pull all the 1x and 2x clients and replace 
>>>>>>> them with 10 times more customers running at 8x mnodulatio n and 
>>>>>>> maintain the same utilization rates on that AP.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Craig Schmaderer 
>>>>>>>> <cr...@skywaveconnect.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Remember that even a couple of sms runing at 2x or 4x will kill your 
>>>>>>>> peak performance if they are the ones that are usually streaming.  We 
>>>>>>>> are very careful on what aps we put low signals on and we control what 
>>>>>>>> plans we offer as well based on signal strength. I just can not have a 
>>>>>>>> 2x customer want a 10mb plan.  I do think that a 450i will definitely 
>>>>>>>> help with uplink interference like others have said. But i think your 
>>>>>>>> best bet is to drop the cash and put some 450m up on that tower.  
>>>>>>>> Sounds like that is a cash cow tower like my main tower is.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jon Langeler 
>>>>>>>> <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:18:22 PM
>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs 450i
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Put a Mikrotik behind an SM and speed test to the internet 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jon Langeler
>>>>>>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> > On Jan 19, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Brian Sullivan 
>>>>>>>> > <installe...@foxvalley.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > I would check out page 9-51 in the PMP 450x Configuration and User 
>>>>>>>> > Guide 15.0.2
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> >> On 1/19/2017 11:37 AM, Tushar Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> So how can we tell when we are really saturating the connection?
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs 450i

[Tushar Patel]

Eric,

We have one site where competitor is less then 200 feet from one of our tower 
and frequency coordinate was issue. It has been resolved for some time now but 
we just put 450m on that tower replacing the 450. We saw significant 
improvements on signal to noise ratio, 4 to 6 dB.  So by putting 450m you may 
improve some of your connections from 2x to 4x, if it is due to noise.

450m performance update:

Yesterday we decided to load up one 450m from 80 customers to 113. We saw max 
throughput jump from 65 meg (5 min average) to 95 meg 5 min average. I was 
watching the peaks on router port and it was going all the way to 130 meg.

So 450m is performing really well at least on one of our deployments. 

Kudos to Cambium on the product. Very encouraging. Keep up the good work Matt 
and his team.

Tushar


> On Jan 20, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sean,
> 
> We are about half 5.4 and half 5.8. You need you to understand that in this 
> particular case we have about 20+ AP's crammed in a town about 2.5 square 
> miles along with two other wireless internet providers. The frequency 
> coordination and high noise floor is the primary reason for 1x and 2x 
> connections. On top of that we have around 3k subscribers and 30 roaming 
> combination techs installing CPE all across western Kansas. You may have 
> complete oversight of where and when you install customers... I simply do not 
> have that luxury. I preach the importance of quality installs constantly, but 
> between their supervisors, marketing teams and pressure from customers, they 
> install what they feel comfortable. The install tech has full discretion, for 
> better or for worse. In the face of all this, 2x subs sometimes get 
> installed. I understand fully that we made our own bed here. It is what it 
> is. This is why I say "in a perfect world". 
> 
> As I said before, we truck-rolled our entire customer base for those who have 
> poor/marginal signals. We made significant improvements but only gained very 
> little in capacity for our efforts. In hindsight, it cost us more than we 
> gained. Hence the reason I ask if 450i has any significant improvements over 
> vanilla 450.
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>> eric are any of your APs using the 5.4 band?
>> 
>> you could put up some additional APs in the 5.4 band and migrate the 
>> close-in clients to them to provide more capacity.
>> 
>> -sean
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> In a perfect world.
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>>>> <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You shouldn't be putting any clients on a 450AP with less than 4x 
>>>> connections, when they start pulling a lot of traffic they significantly 
>>>> choke the AP. Whoever engineered those links needs slapped. I know it 
>>>> probably  looked like a good idea at the time to add a new customer but a 
>>>> couple low signal clients really affect total AP capacity. You could 
>>>> probably pull all the 1x and 2x clients and replace them with 10 times 
>>>> more customers running at 8x mnodulatio n and maintain the same 
>>>> utilization rates on that AP.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Craig Schmaderer 
>>>>> <cr...@skywaveconnect.com> wrote:
>>>>> Remember that even a couple of sms runing at 2x or 4x will kill your peak 
>>>>> performance if they are the ones that are usually streaming.  We are very 
>>>>> careful on what aps we put low signals on and we control what plans we 
>>>>> offer as well based on signal strength. I just can not have a 2x customer 
>>>>> want a 10mb plan.  I do think that a 450i will definitely help with 
>>>>> uplink interference like others have said. But i think your best bet is 
>>>>> to drop the cash and put some 450m up on that tower.  Sounds like that is 
>>>>> a cash cow tower like my main tower is.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jon Langeler 
>>>>> <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:18:22 PM
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs 450i
>>>>>  
>>>>> Put a Mikrotik behind an SM and speed test to the internet 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jon Langeler
>>>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> > On Jan 19, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Brian Sullivan <installe...@foxvalley.net> 
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I would check out page 9-51 in the PMP 450x Configuration and User 
>>>>> > Guide 15.0.2
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >> On 1/19/2017 11:37 AM, Tushar Patel wrote:
>>>>> >> So how can we tell when we are really saturating the connection?
>>>>> > 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs 450i

[Tushar Patel]

Yup only in perfect world. We need to replace few 2x links. But lot of our 
links are 4x. If we did not install at 4x we will not able to do more than half 
our installs. We look for 40meg and up on down loads on speed test and 4x and 
up,  If we get that then we install it.

Tushar


> On Jan 20, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> In a perfect world.
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> You shouldn't be putting any clients on a 450AP with less than 4x 
>> connections, when they start pulling a lot of traffic they significantly 
>> choke the AP. Whoever engineered those links needs slapped. I know it 
>> probably  looked like a good idea at the time to add a new customer but a 
>> couple low signal clients really affect total AP capacity. You could 
>> probably pull all the 1x and 2x clients and replace them with 10 times more 
>> customers running at 8x mnodulatio n and maintain the same utilization rates 
>> on that AP.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Craig Schmaderer 
>>> <cr...@skywaveconnect.com> wrote:
>>> Remember that even a couple of sms runing at 2x or 4x will kill your peak 
>>> performance if they are the ones that are usually streaming.  We are very 
>>> careful on what aps we put low signals on and we control what plans we 
>>> offer as well based on signal strength. I just can not have a 2x customer 
>>> want a 10mb plan.  I do think that a 450i will definitely help with uplink 
>>> interference like others have said. But i think your best bet is to drop 
>>> the cash and put some 450m up on that tower.  Sounds like that is a cash 
>>> cow tower like my main tower is.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jon Langeler 
>>> <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:18:22 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs 450i
>>>  
>>> Put a Mikrotik behind an SM and speed test to the internet 
>>> 
>>> Jon Langeler
>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > On Jan 19, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Brian Sullivan <installe...@foxvalley.net> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > I would check out page 9-51 in the PMP 450x Configuration and User Guide 
>>> > 15.0.2
>>> > 
>>> >> On 1/19/2017 11:37 AM, Tushar Patel wrote:
>>> >> So how can we tell when we are really saturating the connection?
>>> > 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs 450i

[Tushar Patel]

On 140 Ap, at peak time what is total throughput you are seeing from 450m?

We replaced 450 to 450m, 80 customers, it used to see 45 to 50 megs, with 450m 
I saw it jumped close to 90 meg. 

I think we keep watching the frame utilization we thought it was maxed out but 
i think it is mis leading, at 60 meg it shows the 100% and at 85 meg it shows 
the same.  So how can we tell when we are really saturating the connection?

Tushar


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Trey Scarborough  wrote:
> 
> I would make the jump to the 450m if you have 12 APs on the one tower and 
> combine two or more in to one. I have seen 140+ customers on one 450m.
> 
>> On 1/19/2017 10:54 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
>> We've done that. This particular tower has 12 AP's on it. It's in a noisy 
>> environment as well. We sent out our techs to improve many of the 1x & 2x 
>> subs and only gained about 5mb/s. It was a lot of effort with very little 
>> payoff. Our techs have a better understanding of what poor SM's can do to 
>> the AP. So that's a plus.
>> 
>> I was hoping someone had done a direct replacement of 450 to 450i and could 
>> share their results. Perhaps it's time to look at the 450m a little closer.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>> It sounds like you have a lot of weak signal clients.  You should see the 
>>> AP max out at 50-60mbps but only if the majority of clients are 6x or 8x.
>>> 
>>> Can you add stingers or dishes to the SMs??
>>> 
>>> The 450i will give you more PPS but that's probably not the issue.
>>> 
>>> I would just add another 450AP aimed in the same direction and split the 
>>> load.
>>> 
>>> -Sean
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 9:33 AM Eric Muehleisen  wrote:
 We currently have a pile of 450 AP's that top out around 100% downlink 
 utilization which gives us between 30-35mb/s downlink capacity.
 
 We are considering the 450m but doesn't make sense, cost wise, in many of 
 our locations. What kind of improvement you think you would see by 
 upgrading to 450i AP?
 
 Our AP's are configured for 20mhz and 75% downlink.
 
 
>> 
> 

[AFMUG] Industry SIC code for us?

[Tushar Patel]

What Industry SIC code we should be using for various business forms?

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

[Tushar Patel]

I guess it helps to do more research on the product before asking question, my 
bad. 

Zwave has very competitive list of products.



Tushar


> On Jan 8, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have installed the Honeywell smart thermostats for two way radio repeater 
> communication rooms on Franklin mountains .  Emails client when temperature 
> varies from his desired levels.   Our summers get toasty so that is his main 
> concern... Ice build up on antennas does happen but not much you can do about 
> it safely.   
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2017 10:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> What he said...
>>  
>> From: Tushar Patel
>> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:40 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>>  
>> Do you have part list you used you can share?
>> You mentioned Zwave. What else?
>> 
>> 
>> Tushar
>>  
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My house used to run purely on Control4 system .. professionally installed 
>>> and quite expensive.  I got sick of $125 service calls for rather simple 
>>> stuff to be done and decided to replace it with a DYI system…. The Control4 
>>> system with labour and service calls etc set me back around $25k in total.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Right now with the DYI system I have probably $4k invested plus my time … 
>>> at most.  Zero monthly subscription, zero headaches …. And no service calls.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The one part though that I think a lot of folks overlook (as I did) is 
>>> working with electrical in your house … I replaced outlets and switches for 
>>> example and the zwave stuff I used is much deeper than normal switches – I 
>>> wish now that I had just hired an electrician to mess around with that 
>>> stuff in particular as it’s not something I do every day kind of thing ….
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I know someone in my area that does home automation for a living … done it 
>>> for years.  He is very busy … his main clients are folks who have cottages 
>>> and wish to remotely control/monitor their properties especially during 
>>> times they are not visiting it very much … 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com>
>>> Reply-To: <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Friday, January 6, 2017 at 4:13 PM
>>> To: <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Just reading that a little bit may peak your interest in the DIY stuff. I 
>>> am considering setting up a system at home. https://home-assistant.io/ is 
>>> the software I'd like to use to run it.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:48 PM, jay weekley <iluvbroadb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's what I was wondering.  I look at the stuff Lowe's and wonder how 
>>> many people have the knowledge to set it all up but I have zero knowledge 
>>> in the products.  Maybe it's time to automate my thermostat.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is so much do it yourself gear out there now I would think the only 
>>> money would be in the very high end stuff. Things you probably have to 
>>> focus as a sole business.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM jay weekley <iluvbroadb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there any real money to be made in home automation?  Any recurring 
>>> revenue?  How about headaches and problems?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

[Tushar Patel]

Do you have part list you used you can share?
You mentioned Zwave. What else?


Tushar


> On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
> 
> My house used to run purely on Control4 system .. professionally installed 
> and quite expensive.  I got sick of $125 service calls for rather simple 
> stuff to be done and decided to replace it with a DYI system…. The Control4 
> system with labour and service calls etc set me back around $25k in total.
>  
> Right now with the DYI system I have probably $4k invested plus my time … at 
> most.  Zero monthly subscription, zero headaches …. And no service calls.
>  
> The one part though that I think a lot of folks overlook (as I did) is 
> working with electrical in your house … I replaced outlets and switches for 
> example and the zwave stuff I used is much deeper than normal switches – I 
> wish now that I had just hired an electrician to mess around with that stuff 
> in particular as it’s not something I do every day kind of thing ….
>  
> I know someone in my area that does home automation for a living … done it 
> for years.  He is very busy … his main clients are folks who have cottages 
> and wish to remotely control/monitor their properties especially during times 
> they are not visiting it very much …  
>  
> Paul
>  
>  
>  
> From: Af  on behalf of Joe Novak 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Friday, January 6, 2017 at 4:13 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation
>  
> https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/
>  
> Just reading that a little bit may peak your interest in the DIY stuff. I am 
> considering setting up a system at home. https://home-assistant.io/ is the 
> software I'd like to use to run it.
>  
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:48 PM, jay weekley  wrote:
> That's what I was wondering.  I look at the stuff Lowe's and wonder how many 
> people have the knowledge to set it all up but I have zero knowledge in the 
> products.  Maybe it's time to automate my thermostat.
>  
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
> There is so much do it yourself gear out there now I would think the only 
> money would be in the very high end stuff. Things you probably have to focus 
> as a sole business.
>  
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM jay weekley  wrote:
> Is there any real money to be made in home automation?  Any recurring 
> revenue?  How about headaches and problems?
>  
>  

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 vs Packetflux

[Tushar Patel]

That is what we are using for now.

Tushar


> On Dec 27, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Andreas Wiatowski  
> wrote:
> 
> Just got our 450m's
> 
> Can I use a 650 (Heavy duty model) PS to power up the 450m?
> 
> Cheers,
> __
> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
> Silo Wireless Inc.
> Email  andr...@silowireless.com
> 19 Sage Court
> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
> Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
> +1.866.727.4138
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:58 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 vs Packetflux
> 
> I found a "Brand X" POE adapter with an output of:
> 54V - 1.5A (80W)+ on (1,2) (4,5)  and - on (7,8) (3,6)
> 
> Is this a sufficient POE?  Found them for $29.00
> 
>> On 12/14/2016 11:07 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>> You can power the medusa in any of several different ways The 
>> stock power supply, a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync, some of Chuck's 
>> products, etc.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Wave Acquires Cascade Networks

[Tushar Patel]

I am guessing this "Wave", is different company then the one who cells us 
equipment out of Chicago, correct?

Tushar


> On Dec 23, 2016, at 7:39 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> There's been some M in the Seattle area with Wave buying Cascade Networks. 
> Cascade Networks is a WISP, but they also own Last Mile Gear. They've been on 
> the list in the past, so hopefully they can chime in and tell us what's 
> happening with LMG.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: VZ Buy

[Tushar Patel]

Please share other dividend paying stocks you recommend.

Tushar


> On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
> 
> VZ is one of those "Dividend Aristocrat" stocks. They have paid dividends for 
> at least a couple of decades and have a history of steadily increasing them 
> to exceed the inflation rate. Those are the only non index stocks I own. 
> Maybe 30 of them in all. 
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:14 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> I dunno, I have most of my stuff in an index that has paid 16% so far.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:11 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: VZ Buy
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> After reading more about Warren Buffet and his current holdings, I
>> jumped into Verizon stock last week (VZ). I didn't realize they were
>> paying a 4.45% dividend... it's worth just parking money there and
>> earning the 4.45% return, even if the stock never moves. :)
>> 
>> Travis
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 vs Packetflux

[Tushar Patel]

Forrest,

If we use powerinjector + sync for Powering Medusa,

Since the power requirement is very high, how many medusa's can we power using 
gigabit power injector? Can we power 4 Medusa using gigabit power injector?

Tushar


> On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:07 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, sync over power is on the PacketFlux roadmap.  We're exploring different 
> options as far as manufacturing goes.   The short version:  This isn't as 
> simple as just adding some off-the-shelf electronic components.  
> 
> However, we've got a really easy solution for you:
> 
> http://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-junior-aux-port-version/
> 
> Just hook up the aux port directly into this unit with a straight through 
> CAT5 cable.  Then turn on uGPS power in the Medusa.   This unit gets power 
> from the radios.   It also supports up to *four* medusas, or 450i's.  
> 
> You can power the medusa in any of several different ways The stock power 
> supply, a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync, some of Chuck's products, etc.
> 
> -forrest
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Brian Sullivan  
>> wrote:
>> Other than supporting Sync over power for Medusa, what else does the new 
>> CMM5 give you over the competition?
>> 
>> http://www.doubleradius.com/Manufacturers/Accessories_34/
>> 
>> Is Sync over power for 450m on the Packetflux roadmap?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
> 

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 vs Packetflux

[Tushar Patel]

We used uGPS's with 3.65 WiMAX AP's. We put it in two towers, both of them got 
water into it.

Their design, I don't know who came up with it, cable enter side ways to uGPS 
unit. Bad design, may be the guy who put it did not tightened it. 

Based on that experience we decided not to use uGPS 450M.

For now we bought PTP650 power supply and we are using Aux port of 450 with 
pact flux's Aux product for GPS sync. 

We just put two of them two day. 

One AP, has 80 customers, MRTG 5 min average used to show 50 meg at night, 
today we saw already over 84 meg 5 min average, I saw it spike to 98 meg.

We are seeing some CRC errors on Ethernet, few time Ethernet link lost 
connection, we have one surge suppressor in the middle, next to AP,  we will 
remove that tomorrow and see it that clears up.

Tushar


> On Dec 14, 2016, at 9:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>  wrote:
> 
> cmms are alot of $$$, we have one cmm4 still sitting new on a shelf because 
> once we got into packetflux (after going the cyclone route) we never looked 
> back. There is just too much variance in what this industry does to be locked 
> into a 600 dollar power supply and their switch, and I assume it still needs 
> coax to a GPS antenna, too cumbersome, too expensive and little to no 
> versatility. not to mention, one surge and youre out thousands, where with 
> packetflux youre only out affected modules. Plus forrest is a genius and will 
> deal directly with you if there is an issue, that doesnt hurt. snmp 
> monitoring is..odd though
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:11 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>> From what I've read so far, the Aux port on the 450m is functional as a 
>> timing port, but not as a second ethernet yet. So you should be able to do a 
>> UGPS. I believe the SyncBox Junior Aux Port version should work as well, 
>> which would be my preference.
>> 
>> As far as powering them.. nothin wrong with a regular ol GIGE-POE-APC from 
>> Chuck and a 5ch PDU from Forrest to feed/remote power cycle them. Or hell, 
>> even just a GigE PowerInjector+Sync and turn the sync off (or don't connect 
>> a sync pipe) if you find that they don't want to receive sync over power. 
>> Leaving the SyncBox Junior Aux on them as a backup timing source w/ AutoSync 
>> isn't a half bad idea either.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/14/2016 8:21 PM, Traveling Diner wrote:
>>> So we had two of three 450Ms walk in the door today. And we haven't 
>>> bought power or GPS for them yet waiting to see what was going to happen 
>>> with either CMM5 or PFlux support for them. Which now puts us at an awsh*t 
>>> point because we'd really like to get these up on a tower. Could someone 
>>> (Forrest, Sean, et al.) please weigh in authoritatively on whether we can 
>>> safely do this with PFlux or if we need to order the standalone power and 
>>> UGPS in the interim?
>>> 
 On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 6:41 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
 I'm confused because the official position is that the 450m uses "Cambium 
 Sync" (whatever the hell that is). But Sean said he has a 450m receiving 
 sync over power (aka Canopy Sync) from a GigE PowerInjector+Sync I 
 believe. Apparently the hardware does support it.
 
 
> On 12/14/2016 5:05 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote:
> Other than supporting Sync over power for Medusa, what else does the new 
> CMM5 give you over the competition?
> 
> http://www.doubleradius.com/Manufacturers/Accessories_34/
> 
> Is Sync over power for 450m on the Packetflux roadmap?
 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

[Tushar Patel]

PPTP on mikrotik. It will be same, IP address and username and password.

Tushar


> On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:42 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a non WISP customer with some cameras they monitor, not NVR/DVR to 
> speak of yet. The cameras are port forwarded (called pinholes in their 
> current router) individually, so theyre pretty much exposed IoT targets. 
> Im putting a mikrotik in because the Fortigate solution is cost prohibitive. 
> Fortigates ssl vpn is slick, easy and end user friendly (for the client) 
> Whats the easiest VPN/client on a mikrotik. It would be great if it was as 
> simple as the fortigate, they have a workstation client and most phone apps, 
> All I need to do is give them an IP/FQDN and their username and password, its 
> done.
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?

[Tushar Patel]

In the presentation the guy said that the chip is out and they are testing 
within UBNT. He also said long way to go too.  

Tushar


> On Dec 9, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> 
> In picture form it is.
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>> Oh wow. Is the silicon out yet?
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> 
>> > On Dec 9, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > New radio platform from the air fiber team.  In a nutshell:
>> > FDD or HDD
>> > PTMP
>> > 4096QAM
>> > Custom silicon rather than COTS chipset
>> > 2 million PPS
>> > channel sizes up to 100mhz
>> > The speaker makes an allusion to copying the useful features from LTE but 
>> > leaving the mobility baggage.
>> >
>> > It's powerpointware / vaporware at the moment.
>> >
>> > -- Original Message --
>> > From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Sent: 12/9/2016 11:43:07 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?
>> >
>> >> OK. I'm not familiar with the LTU thing, and I try to avoid marketing 
>> >> hype from UBNT. LTE is Long Term Evolution, and is capable under ideal 
>> >> circumstances of pushing ~~ 17 bits/Hz.
>> >>
>> >> What pray tell is LTU?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> bp
>> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>
>> >>> On 12/9/2016 4:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> >>> The confusion between LTE and LTU has to be intentional on UBNT's side. 
>> >>> If not to ride on something else's coattails, why would you use a very 
>> >>> similar acronym?
>> >>
>> >
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?

[Tushar Patel]

Oh wow. Is the silicon out yet?

Tushar


> On Dec 9, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> New radio platform from the air fiber team.  In a nutshell:
> FDD or HDD
> PTMP
> 4096QAM
> Custom silicon rather than COTS chipset
> 2 million PPS
> channel sizes up to 100mhz
> The speaker makes an allusion to copying the useful features from LTE but 
> leaving the mobility baggage.
> 
> It's powerpointware / vaporware at the moment.
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Bill Prince" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 12/9/2016 11:43:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?
> 
>> OK. I'm not familiar with the LTU thing, and I try to avoid marketing hype 
>> from UBNT. LTE is Long Term Evolution, and is capable under ideal 
>> circumstances of pushing ~~ 17 bits/Hz.
>> 
>> What pray tell is LTU?
>> 
>> 
>> bp
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/9/2016 4:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> The confusion between LTE and LTU has to be intentional on UBNT's side. If 
>>> not to ride on something else's coattails, why would you use a very similar 
>>> acronym?
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] fiber and 16 guage power, shielded cable?

[Tushar Patel]

Found it:

 

Baltic has one from Shireen

 

 

https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-composite-cable-500ft-spool

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber and 16 guage power, shielded cable?

 

CTI had one at one of the shows.  I'm not sure if it's 16 gauge, but is at 
least 16 gauge.

 

Thinking there's a couple others at the shows...




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com 
<mailto:tpa...@ecpi.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I am looking for bundle cable that has fiber and 16 guage power cable to run 
upto the tower. Is there such thing and if yes, where can I buy it?

 

Thanks,

Tushar

 

[AFMUG] fiber and 16 guage power, shielded cable?

[Tushar Patel]

Hi,

 

I am looking for bundle cable that has fiber and 16 guage power cable to run
upto the tower. Is there such thing and if yes, where can I buy it?

 

Thanks,

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

[Tushar Patel]

Same here. 

Tushar


> On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> I was never able to get that much for that little. 
>  
> From: Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:31 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now
>  
> Hey,
> 
> Can you skip any commercials, or is that how they are helping pay for the 
> service?
> 
> With my DISH Network, I can skip all the commercials... plus DVR function, 
> and over 250 channels including HBO, Showtime, etc. for less than  $50/month. 
> I also get all the local channels in HD without having to add another 
> antenna. :)
> 
> Travis
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/30/2016 1:52 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Damn, I am liking this.� And I have tried them all.�
>> �
>> Direct TV Satellite
>> Dish Network
>> SlingTV
>> Sony Playstation VUE
>> Beehive IPTV
>> Real Choice HTML5 IPTV
>> TIVO
>> �
>> I wish they would spin a TIVO app or something.�
>> So far, this is the only one with a decent EPG that is very similar to what 
>> you see on the satellite receiver.�
>> Channel changes are instant.�
>> Now I gotta figure out how to create my favorites or whatever they call 
>> it.�
>> �
>> From: Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:44 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now
>> �
>> Two stream limit.�
>> �
>> From: Tyler Treat
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:42 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now
>> �
>> �
>> 
>> Is there a limit on concurrent sessions per user?
>> how much bandwidth does it suck up per stream?
>> 
>> From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Chuck McCown 
>> mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:29 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now
>> �
>> https://directvnow.com/accounts/select-plan
>> �
>> I am signing up.�
> 

[AFMUG] Space X, Satellite internet 1 GBPS, FCC

[Tushar Patel]

http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-internet-satellite-constellation-2016-
11

 

[AFMUG] OT: early reporting on Election Day

[Tushar Patel]

Anybody interested in the early reporting on the results check following 
article and for results minute by minute go to website listed

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/us/politics/election-results-voting.html

http://votecastr.us/

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

[Tushar Patel]

Their contractor are still hiring installer in Austin.

Need to probably understand why those cities not others? 

Tushar


> On Oct 25, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> New ones. They're still deploying existing networks. They just opened up a 
> few new areas in Kansas City recently.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2016 9:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>> Moving folks to wireless Aye Dios
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2016 7:56 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>>> https://gizmodo.com/google-fiber-halts-operations-in-ten-cities-1788214992?rev=1477443092657_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook_source=gizmodo_facebook_medium=socialflow

Re: [AFMUG] Another large DDoS, Stop Being a Dick

[Tushar Patel]

Lol was for the "wall". 

Tushar


> On Oct 21, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Tim Reichhart  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> I say this major ddos attack is sure blow back on what US told Ecuador to Act 
> Against WikiLeaks Leader.
> -Original Message-
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Date: 10/21/16 05:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another large DDoS, Stop Being a Dick
> 
> i think there are only two hackers left, the rest are script kiddies
> half of these mopes calling themselves "hackers" have little education, 
> hacking quite often requires a high degree of mathmatics capability, most of 
> these l77t "hackers" cant even multiply
>  
>  
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
>> Good point … and totally agree that the word "hacking" used to mean 
>> something - now it just kinda makes people laugh and not take it seriously 
>> at all anymore…
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I think his point was that a denial of service attack is not hacking.
>>>  
>>> I just heard on the radio someone was asking, if I try to use Twitter and 
>>> it doesn't work because of this attack, is my computer how hacked?
>>>  
>>> Even stuff that rightly gets called hacking is an insult to hackers. Like 
>>> if your webcam is on a public IP address and I guess that the password is 
>>> 1234, and that gets me root access to install whatever I want, it hardly 
>>> seems right to call that hacking.
>>>  
>>> But taking down a site by flooding it (or its authoritative DNS servers) 
>>> with traffic is not the same as hacking the site.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 3:34 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another large DDoS, Stop Being a Dick 
>>>  
>>> Agree…. it should be focused on end users better securing themselves …. 
>>>  
 On Oct 21, 2016, at 3:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
  wrote:
  
 Im getting irritated by news reports calling this hacking. That term has 
 been so obfuscated by dimwits that it has no value
  
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Josh Luthman 
>  wrote:
> It works great for me 90% of the time. The other 10% it refuses to 
> function at all.
> 
>  
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>  
>  
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Paul Stewart  
>> wrote:
>> LOL …. scary shit….
>>  
>> Facebook being slow isn't anything new in my experience … they have to 
>> be having a hard time keeping up sometimes …. last I heard they were 
>> adding something around 200-300 new servers a day in each data centre
>>  
>>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 2:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>>  wrote:
>>>  
>>> forcing people to interact in person... a dangerous prospect in these 
>>> times
>>>  
 On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Tim Reichhart 
  wrote:
 It seems like facebook is also getting slow.
  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Travis Johnson" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Date: 10/21/16 02:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another large DDoS, Stop Being a Dick
> 
> This is still going right now... big and small websites and ISP's are 
> unreachable and unresponsive. :(
> 
> Travis
> 
> 
>> On 10/21/2016 12:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>  
>> Interesting, according to that, the ISP DNS servers are recruited as 
>> part of the attack on the victim's authoritative DNS servers, by 
>> sending queries from within the ISP's network.
>>  
>> No spoofing, no amplification, no misconfigured DNS servers 
>> required, yet the ISP's DNS servers are used to send the attack 
>> traffic. All that is needed is a compromised IoT to send the query.
>>  
>>  
>>  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 12:42 PM 
>> 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another large DDoS, Stop Being a Dick
>>  
>>  
>> Right - crap IoT devices on the Mirai botnet were responsible for 
>> shoving 620+Gbps of traffic at Akamai to take down Krebs (and over 
>> 1Tbps to take down OVH). No spoofing involved.
>>  
>> Interesting article on the techniques used by Mirai:
>>  
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Another large DDoS, Stop Being a Dick

[Tushar Patel]

LOL

Tushar


> On Oct 21, 2016, at 4:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>  wrote:
> 
> rené ‏@Renatus84  23m23 minutes ago
> We're going to build a firewall, a huge, beautiful firewall, and hackers are 
> gonna pay for it #DDoS #DDoSAttack
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 4:06 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>  wrote:
>> i think there are only two hackers left, the rest are script kiddies
>> half of these mopes calling themselves "hackers" have little education, 
>> hacking quite often requires a high degree of mathmatics capability, most of 
>> these l77t "hackers" cant even multiply
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
>>> Good point … and totally agree that the word “hacking” used to mean 
>>> something - now it just kinda makes people laugh and not take it seriously 
>>> at all anymore…
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 21, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
 
 I think his point was that a denial of service attack is not hacking.
  
 I just heard on the radio someone was asking, if I try to use Twitter and 
 it doesn’t work because of this attack, is my computer how hacked?
  
 Even stuff that rightly gets called hacking is an insult to hackers.  Like 
 if your webcam is on a public IP address and I guess that the password is 
 1234, and that gets me root access to install whatever I want, it hardly 
 seems right to call that hacking.
  
 But taking down a site by flooding it (or its authoritative DNS servers) 
 with traffic is not the same as hacking the site.
  
  
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 3:34 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another large DDoS, Stop Being a Dick
  
 Agree…. it should be focused on end users better securing themselves …. 
  
> On Oct 21, 2016, at 3:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>  wrote:
>  
> Im getting irritated by news reports calling this hacking. That term has 
> been so obfuscated by dimwits that it has no value
>  
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Josh Luthman 
>>  wrote:
>> It works great for me 90% of the time.  The other 10% it refuses to 
>> function at all.
>> 
>>  
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>  
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Paul Stewart  
>>> wrote:
>>> LOL …. scary shit….
>>>  
>>> Facebook being slow isn’t anything new in my experience … they have to 
>>> be having a hard time keeping up sometimes …. last I heard they were 
>>> adding something around 200-300 new servers a day in each data centre
>>>  
 On Oct 21, 2016, at 2:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
  wrote:
  
 forcing people to interact in person... a dangerous prospect in these 
 times
  
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Tim Reichhart 
>  wrote:
> It seems like facebook is also getting slow.
>  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Travis Johnson" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Date: 10/21/16 02:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another large DDoS, Stop Being a Dick
>> 
>> This is still going right now... big and small websites and ISP's 
>> are unreachable and unresponsive. :(
>> 
>> Travis
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/21/2016 12:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>  
>>> Interesting, according to that, the ISP DNS servers are recruited 
>>> as part of the attack on the victim's authoritative DNS servers, by 
>>> sending queries from within the ISP's network.
>>>  
>>> No spoofing, no amplification, no misconfigured DNS servers 
>>> required, yet the ISP's DNS servers are used to send the attack 
>>> traffic. All that is needed is a compromised IoT to send the query.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 12:42 PM
>>> 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another large DDoS, Stop Being a Dick
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Right - crap IoT devices on the Mirai botnet were responsible for 
>>> shoving 620+Gbps of traffic at Akamai to take down Krebs (and over 
>>> 1Tbps to take down OVH). No spoofing involved.
>>>  
>>> Interesting article on the techniques used by Mirai:
>>>  
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] 10G transport, what's it worth?

[Tushar Patel]

3400 for 180 miles, level 3, via amcom.



Tushar


> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:07 PM, Roland Houin  wrote:
> 
> 3400 for 100 mile, windstream via gigalinx
> 5 year term
> 
> roland
> 
>> What is the going rate for 10G of long haul transport today? I've heard it 
>> may
> be down in the $2500 range? If you have received a competitive quote recently
> could you give me a ball park and who the provider was? Direct or through 
> sales
> channel? <
> 

[AFMUG] Ip, console server?

[Tushar Patel]

Hi

 

We may get into situation where we may need to do remote management of
router via console port.

 

Any suggestion on ip console server to buy? 8 or 16 port.

 

Thanks,

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

[Tushar Patel]

Paul,

Good luck. I hope it just skirts too.

Tushar


> On Oct 5, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
> 
> We have Hurricane Matthew coming up the cost, and now its forecast to 
> probably touch land fall as a Category 3 right in the Treasure Coast area, 
> and we are right in the middle of that.  Praying that it just skirts the cost 
> and not a full landfall.  We have 39 towers that are vulnerable.  We have 
> done all the prep possible and are unplugging everything before it hits.
>  
> We have recovered from 3 hurricanes previously and it’s very hard and 
> stressful.
>  
> We appreciate the thoughts and prayers
>  
> Paul
>  
> Paul McCall, President
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 772-564-6800 
> pa...@pdmnet.net
> www.pdmnet.com
> www.floridabroadband.com
>  
>  

Re: [AFMUG] cnMedusa is Legal (and shipping!)

[Tushar Patel]

Does the announced product work in 5.4? Or just 5.7?

Tushar


> On Sep 30, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> 
> I think he ment 5.1-5.7 ghz
> 
>> On Friday, September 30, 2016, George Skorup  wrote:
>> 3GHz next year. If you're wanting it for 2.4, forget it. I doubt they'll 
>> even do a 450i in 2.4, but I could be wrong. 2.4 has turned into 900, 
>> completely sucks, we gave up on it.
>> 
>>> On 9/30/2016 12:58 PM, Matt wrote:
>>> Great news.  When will the lower bands be available?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Matt Mangriotis
>>>  wrote:
 The PMP 450m was issued a grant today.  This is the first commercially 
 available Multi-User MIMO product in 5 GHz!
 
 
 
 https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPY=500_code=_id=gR2HF80%2FF77q7CNU2n2zSw%3D%3D_id=QWP-50450M
 
 
 
 Hopefully, those that have placed orders will be seeing them very soon.
 
 
 
 (Is Gino on holiday??? He usually takes care of these things…)
 
 
 
 Matt Mangriotis
 
 Senior Product Manager
 Cambium Networks
 3800 Golf Road, Suite 360
 
 Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
 
 
 
 www.cambiumnetworks.com
 O: 847-439-6379
 
 M: 630-308-9394
 E: m...@cambiumnetworks.com

Re: [AFMUG] cnMedusa is Legal (and shipping!)

[Tushar Patel]

I am sure Cambium loves that

Tushar


> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Am I Late?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Medusa doesn't mess around.
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>> Why am I hearing “fully armed and operational” instead of legal and 
>>> shipping?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tushar Patel
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:24 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMedusa is Legal (and shipping!)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Matt,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Congratulations! 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Very eager to try it out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tushar
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Matt Mangriotis 
>>> <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The PMP 450m was issued a grant today.  This is the first commercially 
>>> available Multi-User MIMO product in 5 GHz!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPY=500_code=_id=gR2HF80%2FF77q7CNU2n2zSw%3D%3D_id=QWP-50450M
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hopefully, those that have placed orders will be seeing them very soon.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> (Is Gino on holiday??? He usually takes care of these things…)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Matt Mangriotis
>>> 
>>> Senior Product Manager
>>> Cambium Networks
>>> 3800 Golf Road, Suite 360
>>> 
>>> Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> www.cambiumnetworks.com
>>> O: 847-439-6379
>>> 
>>> M: 630-308-9394
>>> E: m...@cambiumnetworks.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] cnMedusa is Legal (and shipping!)

[Tushar Patel]

Matt,

Congratulations! 

Very eager to try it out.

Tushar


> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Matt Mangriotis 
>  wrote:
> 
> The PMP 450m was issued a grant today.  This is the first commercially 
> available Multi-User MIMO product in 5 GHz!
>  
> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPY=500_code=_id=gR2HF80%2FF77q7CNU2n2zSw%3D%3D_id=QWP-50450M
>  
> Hopefully, those that have placed orders will be seeing them very soon.
>  
> (Is Gino on holiday??? He usually takes care of these things…)
>  
> Matt Mangriotis
> Senior Product Manager
> Cambium Networks
> 3800 Golf Road, Suite 360
> Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
>  
> www.cambiumnetworks.com
> O: 847-439-6379
> M: 630-308-9394
> E: m...@cambiumnetworks.com
> 
>  

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode

[Tushar Patel]

You moved to powercode!!!

Tushar


> On Aug 18, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
> 
> Hey gang,
> 
> Any experts out there have experience with DHCP option 82 + Canopy + 
> Powercode?  If so can I pick your brain???
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sean
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] 450D vs sm with reflector 5ghz

[Tushar Patel]

We did. We like it better. Same or better result. Easier to source. One item to 
carry on truck, same equipment for sat mount install and 10 feet of pole 
install. 

Tushar


> On Jun 22, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Craig Schmaderer  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone made the switch?  Better or worse results?  The same?  Why switch 
> price easier install?   We have not made the switch yet.  
> 
> Craig Schmaderer
> Cell 402-380-1245
> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru

[Tushar Patel]

Do you want to follow her foot steps?

Tushar


> On Jun 1, 2016, at 9:15 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
> wrote:
> 
>  
>  
> What did Hilary run on her server?
> - Original Message -
> From: Rory Conaway
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru
> 
> 1) We don't provide email services to clients, for internal use only.  We 
> tell them to use gmail, Hotmail, etc..
> 2) For security reasons, we can't use outside email services.
> 3) If Exchange is good enough for pretty much most states, including 
> California, I'm good with that.
> 4) If we do have a problem, we don't need a Linux expert in house which we 
> don't have, it's a simple phone call to Microsoft support.  We have used them 
> once in 5 years and that was during the last migration.  We found a bug in 
> the installation process and they refunded our money.  
> 5) Small Business Server was great for us but since it's discontinued, we 
> moved on to full Exchange.
> 
> Rory
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 11:32 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru
> 
> [1] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the experience of a large email 
> provider [2] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the hardware redundancy of a 
> large email provider [3] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the software 
> redundancy of a large email provider [4] As a small to medium ISP, you likely 
> have other, more important duties besides worrying about managing your own 
> email server [5] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the dedicated team a 
> large email provider has to help get off / stay offblacklists [6] As a 
> small to medium ISP, internal per user mail cost via cloud provider is a very 
> efficient use of opex given the above [7] As a small to medium ISP, you can 
> only "do better" than the above in cost alone.
> [8] As a small to medium ISP, If cost is the only importance when it comes to 
> mail, use Zimbra, Sendmail, etc.
> [9] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail to 
> customers, consider Sendmail. Sendmail has been used by a metric asston of 
> ISPs - potentially serving several billion customers over the years. It is 
> very well tested and supported.
> [10] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail to 
> customers and don't like Sendmail, consider Zimbra. Zimbra will offer you 
> support and features very similar to Exchange with a much lower cost. Your 
> end user devices won't know there is a difference.
> 
> Somebody is going to come up with certain experiences they've had running 
> Exchange, or Qmail, or $whatever. That's fine, you experience and opinions 
> are no less relevant.
> 
> Now I'm going to bow out, and maybe watch the carnage unfold after I finish 
> making this new ansible/Juniper playbook :)
> 
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Dennis Burgess  
> wrote:
> > 1.. exchange is easy.
> > 2. why works great!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:52 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru
> >
> > [1] Good luck with getting it fixed
> >
> > [2] Get the fuck off exchange
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> >> thanks!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Keith Willis with Progent
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Gino Villarini 
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  We have a issue with our Exchange server.  The database does not mount.
>  Any recommendations for a Exchange Professional?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
> >>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> >>
> >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT I screwed myself

[Tushar Patel]

That is a good point. 

I have been using keepass, but since you mentioned spreadsheet, I think you 
could achieve same thing with password protected spreadsheet.

Tushar


> On May 25, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Now is that better than a spreadsheet?
>  
> From: Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:22 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I screwed myself
>  
> Keepass
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On May 25, 2016 6:18 PM, "Joshaven Mailing Lists"  
>> wrote:
>> Try making it longer rather than strange.  Make your password long not 
>> cryptic.  For good measure to pass stupid password tests put in a capital 
>> and number but that doesn’t make it harder to crack.  They are still going 
>> try every combination including those characters just in case.
>>  
>>  
>> b7^w3@   ( 400 ms )
>> P@s5wor! ( 9 hours )
>> P@ssw0rd ( Still 9 hours )
>> thisisalongbutsimplepassword   ( 3 SEXTILLION YEARS )
>> cottoncandyman ( 51 Years )
>>  
>> https://howsecureismypassword.net/
>>  
>> See if he can crack something long but easy for you to type
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Sincerely,
>> Joshaven Potter
>> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
>> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
>> supp...@joshaven.com
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>> On May 25, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>  
>>> My oldest son is a computer security specialist / forensic guy.
>>>  
>>> He was telling my my super complicated password was not so secure. 
>>> He cracked it pretty easy.  He suggested I add an alt code.
>>>  
>>> So I did.  Now, neither one of us can open the file. 
>>> Guess alt codes in passwords for some Office products cause big problems. 
>>>  
>>> Arrgh.

[AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

[Tushar Patel]

Hi

We have been using two way radios (consumer grade) by Motorola.  It is ok to 
use but we are looking to get somethings better which makes it easy for tower 
crew to use.

No days when we go to some department stores or Apple Store etc. all the 
employees their have nice head set and small talk button to speak. It would be 
good to have Bluetooth on them so person on the top can talk with ease.

Any suggestions?

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Tushar Patel]

You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


> On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> 
> still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost? 
> 
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:
>> We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that 
>> calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software 
>> to run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would 
>> be how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carlos Alcantar
>> 
>> Race Communications / Race Team Member 
>> 
>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>> 
>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
>> 
>> 
>> From: Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson 
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>  
>> Nice!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A beautiful thing. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Craig Schmaderer
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
>> 
>> To: Animal Farm
>> 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Craig schmaderer
>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT CPE being used for Abusive actions?

[Tushar Patel]

Radios could be put on private ip so nobody from outside world can access it. 
That is what we do.

Tushar


> On May 4, 2016, at 5:22 PM, SmarterBroadband  
> wrote:
> 
> I have received a number of emails for ab...@light-gap.net saying certain of 
> our IP address are being used for attacks (see email text below).
>  
> All IP addresses are in UBNT radios.  We are unable to remote access any of 
> the these radios now.  We see that the radio we are unable to access rebooted 
> a couple of days ago.  A number of other radios show they rebooted around the 
> same time (in sequence) on the AP.  We are unable to remote access any of 
> those either. Other radios with longer uptime on the AP’s are fine.
>  
> We have a tech on route to one of the customer sites.
>  
> We think the radios are being made into bots.  Anyone seen this or anything 
> like this?  Do the hackers need a username and password to hack a radio?  
> I.E.  Would a change of the password stop the changes being made to the 
> radios?  Any other thoughts, suggestions or ideas?
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Adam 
>  
> Email Text below:
>  
> “This is a semi-automated e-mail from the LG-Mailproxy authentication system, 
> all requests have been approved manually by the system-administrators or are 
> obviously unwanted (eg. requests to our spamtraps).
> For further questions or if additional information is needed please reply to 
> this email.
>  
> The IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx has been banned for 48 hours due to suspicious 
> behaviour on our system.
> This happened already 1 times.
> It might be be part of a botnet, infected by a trojan/virus or running 
> brute-force attacks.
>  
> Our affected destination servers: smtp.light-gap.net, imap.light-gap.net
>  
> Currently 7 failed/unauthorized logins attempts via SMTP/IMAP with 6 
> different usernames and wrong password:
> 2016-05-04T23:48:40+02:00 with username "downloads.openscience.or.at" 
> (spamtrap account)
> 2016-05-04T22:47:19+02:00 with username "sp_woq" (spamtrap account)
> 2016-05-04T14:55:11+02:00 with username "info" (spamtrap account)
> 2016-05-03T21:24:22+02:00 with username "fips" (spamtrap account)
> 2016-05-03T20:57:19+02:00 with username "downloads.openscience.or.at" 
> (spamtrap account)
> 2016-05-03T10:13:59+02:00 with username "d10hw49WpH" (spamtrap account)
> 2016-05-03T05:34:43+02:00 with username "12345678" (spamtrap account) Ongoing 
> failed/unauthorized logins attempts will be logged and sent to you every 24h 
> until the IP will be permanently banned from our systems after 72 hours.
>  
> The Light-Gap.net Abuse Team.”
>  

[AFMUG] Out Source Tech Support Vendors

[Tushar Patel]

Hi,

 

We are looking to do outsource after hrs tech support. I know there are few
companies doing this. I have talked to server plus already. Which others
ones provide such services?

 

Any experience people can share?

 

Thanks,

Tushar

[AFMUG] Blockchain write up or good book?

[Tushar Patel]

Rise and fall of Bitcoin now there is new virtual currency called Ethereum that 
has valuation on $1b. Went up 1000%.

Before investing into any of these stuff, time to understand it better. 

People who have understood this well, any specific book or good website they 
recommend?

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

[Tushar Patel]

When are they going to be shipping?

Tushar


> On Mar 17, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Part 101 11 GHz radio.  $799/end  Type N connectors. 
> 1.2 Gbps I think.  Dual pol.  I am thinking of making some adapters so you 
> can connect these things to DR and Remec antennas. 

Re: [AFMUG] New Book

[Tushar Patel]

Congratulations 

Tushar


> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:35 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> 
> After two years of work and lots of money, it's finally out:
> 
> http://jwcapital.com/book/
> 
> Today is our formal release date, so it would be helpful for us to get as 
> many sales as possible today. :)
> 
> Travis
> 

Re: [AFMUG] advantages of 450d over reflector are (fill in the blank)

[Tushar Patel]

We do lot of install with 5 to 50 feet of poles, so now we don't have to carry 
connectorized  and integrated radios. So just one part to carry.

Tushar


> On Feb 27, 2016, at 6:32 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Those of you who are using the 450d, what do you like about it and where do 
> you use it?
> 
> I'm looking for reasons other than "I hate reflector dishes".
> 
> 

[AFMUG] trailer Mounted Booms or Bucket truck

[Tushar Patel]

We are considering buying trailer Mounted booms or bucket truck.

 

Some roofs are just too hard to get up and we have lot of push up poles so
to service them it would be lot easier with bucket trucks.

 

So like this 

 

http://www.genielift.com/en/products/trailer-mounted-booms/tz50/

 

or

 

just bucket trucks.

 

Any suggestions? Any experience people can share.

 

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] OT medifast

[Tushar Patel]

Thanks for sharing, good one.

Tushar


> On Feb 22, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> Listen to this. This� talks about an interesting concept called "temptation 
> bundling". A way to balance the things you "should" do against the things you 
> "want" to do.
> 
> http://freakonomics.com/podcast/when-willpower-isnt-enough/
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 2/21/2016 7:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Still trying to shed holiday pounds.� Seems harder each year.� I know a 
>> bunch of guys that have lost a bunch of weight with medifast.� Seems 
>> expensive.� I did nutrisystems years ago and it worked pretty good.� Any 
>> opinions?� (My wife is� a fantastic cook, getting rid of her is NOT an 
>> option).�
> 

Re: [AFMUG] 450i 5.1 and 5.2 non overlapping channels?

[Tushar Patel]

Matt,

To take advantage don't we need cheaper CPE?

Tushar


> On Feb 20, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
>  wrote:
> 
> Didn’t see anyone answer you on this Sam.
>  
> 5.1 GHz (UNII-1) is 100 MHz (5150-5250 MHz), and is not DFS controlled, and 
> follows similar rules to 5.8 GHz.  This band is available in R14.1.1.
>  
> 5.2 GHz (UNII-2) is also 100 MHz (5250-5350 MHz), but is a bit less useful in 
> that the max EIRP allowed is 30 dBm and it’s subject to DFS radar detection 
> mechanisms.
>  
> Additional info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-NII
>  
> Taking advantage of these bands, however, can prove hugely useful and several 
> of our customers are getting equipment deployed and working soon.
>  
> (Note: 5.2 and 5.4 will be supported in the R14.1.2 beta release that will be 
> out very soon).
>  
> Matt
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:54 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450i 5.1 and 5.2 non overlapping channels?
>  
> Is there any documentation or list knowledge on how big each frequency is?
> Just wondering if it is worth it to go to the 450i and the ridiculously 
> expensive SM's.
> We are running out of spectrum in 5.4 and 5.8 though. 
> 
> --
> -- 
> Sam Lambie
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple

[Tushar Patel]

You must be bored and wanted to have some lively discussion?

Tushar


> On Feb 19, 2016, at 4:44 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Treason?

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS shot in 11 ghz, would you do it?

[Tushar Patel]

No

Tushar


> On Feb 16, 2016, at 11:18 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> 
> We have a customer requiring a high mrc link.  its a NLOS shot of 1 mile.
> 
> We did a test with a pair of SAF cfip106 in 11 ghz with a 2' dish on one end 
> and 3' on the other.
> 
> Tx power at 19 db
> 
> rssi came in at -68 ( about 30db loss)
> 
> Would you do it? 
> 
> Im worried about loss during rain (wet leaves)
> 
> 5 ghz could be an option but the tower is crowded at 5 ghz
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Surprise BW Last night

[Tushar Patel]

Same here. Monday nights are highest.

Tushar


> On Feb 9, 2016, at 6:17 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
> 
> Yeah we sent from almost the lowest traffic level in the past year to a very 
> busy evening last night.. although Monday nights are often our highest 
> traffic levels all week
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 11:10 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Surprise BW Last night
>  
> Looks like they made up for it all tonight,  Highest levels in some time this 
> evening. 
> 
> On 2/8/2016 10:34 AM, Joe Novak wrote:
> We dropped over 300mbit as soon as the game started. Just after the game we 
> peaked 100mbit lower then the two previous nights.
>  
> Sunday is usually our peak for the week averaging 10-15% higher then normal 
> usage. 
>  
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> On 2/8/16 07:55, Nate Burke wrote:
> I was expecting record traffic levels with people streaming the 'Big
> Game' to multiple devices.  Cord cutters, and just because they could.
> But it actually ended up being lower than most Sunday nights.  Not even
> a pickup after the game ended.
> 
> 
> I don't think a lot of people want to watch something like the super bowl on 
> their tiny screen smartphone or tablet or even computer except as a last 
> resort. They want the biggest screen possible plus they'll care enough to 
> learn HDTV OTA reception if they don't have cable or sat.
> 
> ~Seth
>  
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Physical asset inventory

[Tushar Patel]

Chuck,

We did that way in the beginning, too many typo errors in the Mac addresses. 
Specially if use the same MAC address for radius authentication.

We bought those USB scanner not very expensive. It acts like a keyboard, it is 
lot quicker,
It is used by all office staff that deal with MAC address.

It if one the best thing we did.

Tushar


> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> I am wondering how useful the bar code is.  I am planning to manually enter 
> the serial numbers and lots of other data for each item, entering the serial 
> number via scanner seems like it may be more hassle than it is worth. 
>  
> From: Paul Stewart
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 2:16 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Physical asset inventory
>  
> We use non removal stickers on all equipment and track it via bar code 
> scanning into an internally developed application.  This is primarily 
> desktops/corporate servers/notebooks more than anything else.  Public servers 
> and network gear do not have this yet as they are operated by a different 
> group, but at some point we’d like to integrate both sides.
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 4:04 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Physical asset inventory
>  
> Everything I care about has an IP address in management RFC1918 blocks and is 
> monitored in OpenNMS - if somebody steals a piece of a POP, we'll know about 
> it...
> 
> $15 cordless engraver is used to etch names on some key equipment.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/General-Tools-Instruments-505-Precision/dp/B004YK66NM
> 
> 
> Equipment that is in storage for spares or awaiting deployment is tracked 
> using the same inventory spreadsheet used to track purchasing (eg: an 
> incoming purchase invoice/bill of sale email is matched with an incoming UPS 
> or FedEx tracking number, when the item arrives and is unboxed and placed on 
> a shelf, the status column of its row is updated).
>  
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> Anyone use barcodes?  How exhaustive and anal do some of you get when 
> maintaining your asset records?
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Physical asset inventory

[Tushar Patel]

It is a big a problem. We are not using barcode. We do weekly count in the Van 
and it is way off on all items.

It is way off because installer put used item as new and vice versa on the 
paperwork.

We hired the programmer to do back office application, we are using it now. 
When all bugs are out, our plan is to do daily inventory by other then the 
installer so we can match their work sheet and what is in the van everyday.

Tushar


> On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Anyone use barcodes?  How exhaustive and anal do some of you get when 
> maintaining your asset records?

Re: [AFMUG] Winds and snow

[Tushar Patel]

Will watch out. Thanks for heads up.

Tushar


> On Feb 1, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> High winds and powdering hit us today.   Headed east...keep an eye out  for 
> it Louis and Tushar.  it was 70 yesterday.  

Re: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..

[Tushar Patel]

They announced it but not going to be available for us market for a while.

Tushar


> On Jan 29, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Peter Kranz  wrote:
> 
> Checking into it.. I’ll report back.
>  
> Peter Kranz
> www.UnwiredLtd.com
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:06 PM
> To: af@afmug.com; af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..
>  
> yes it was Dragonwave
>  
> sorry 
>  
> Sent from Outlook Mobile
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:03 PM -0800, "Mike Hammett"  
> wrote:
> 
> See, it isn't just me that wants SFP+ ports on radios...
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>  
> From: "Peter Kranz" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 1:42:57 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] 2 Gbps radios with 10G port..
> 
> Is there anything out there supporting 10G ports yet? I need to install 
> several 2G links for a large event and don’t want to aggregate 1G ports..
>  
> Peter Kranz
> www.UnwiredLtd.com
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>  
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 Watchdog resets - was: To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tushar Patel]

Over two years we have been seeing random reboot. We were told over and over 
again you are the only one.  Then few people started reporting.

But cambium never could get bottom of the problems for two years so, I gave up 
on cambium fixing this random reboot.  We stop calling them about it. 

As the new versions of the software has come out over two years we have see the 
frequency of the problem reduce but not gone away.

Tushar


> On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
> 
> Tushar,
> 
> What did you give up on?   Or do?
> 
> Please note the mailing and shipping address change below:
> 
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> 22690 Pemberville Rd
> Luckey, OH 43443
> 419-837-5015 x1021
> m...@amplex.net
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>> 
>> That's what they used to tell us too.  We have given up on the subject now. 
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to with 
>>> 450?
>>> 
>>> So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450’s?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan <installe...@foxvalley.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from Watchdog 
>>>> Resets.  
>>>> Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>> Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications 
>>>>>> Inc <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Cambium,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
>>>>>> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  
>>>>>> It was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems 
>>>>>> across the spectrum.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
>>>>>> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made 
>>>>>> available to fix this short term.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with 
>>>>>> it. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance 
>>>>>> of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we 
>>>>>> would prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
>>>>>> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made 
>>>>>> public. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Tyson Burris, President 
>>>>>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>>>>>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>>>>>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
>>>>>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
>>>>>> Online: www.surfici.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What can ICI do for you?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - 
>>>>>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
>>>>>> addressee shown. It contains information that is 
>>>>>> confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, 
>>>>>> dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by 
>>>>>> unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
>>>>>> prohibited.
>>>>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tushar Patel]

That's what they used to tell us too.  We have given up on the subject now. 

Tushar


> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
> 
> Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to with 
> 450?
> 
> So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450’s?
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from Watchdog 
>> Resets.  
>> Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/
>> 
>>> On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications 
 Inc  wrote:
 Hello Cambium,
 
  
 At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
 compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  
 It was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems 
 across the spectrum.
 
 We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
 identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made 
 available to fix this short term.
 
 The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with 
 it. 
 
  
 Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of 
 the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would 
 prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
 
  
 If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
 inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made 
 public. 
 
  
 Thank you,
 
  
 Tyson Burris, President 
 Internet Communications Inc. 
 739 Commerce Dr. 
 Franklin, IN 46131 
   
 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
 Online: www.surfici.net
 
  
 
 
 What can ICI do for you?
 
 
 Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
 Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
   
 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
 addressee shown. It contains information that is 
 confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, 
 dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by 
 unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
 prohibited.
 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Auditing IPpay

[Tushar Patel]

We do like that on all accounts.

Tushar


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Maybe that is why some payees insist that you mail or FAX them a voided check 
> before they accept ACH payments from you.
>  
> From: Mark Radabaugh
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:12 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auditing IPpay
>  
> What really pisses me off is the lusers that figure out that a EFT 
> transaction always authorizes then bounces a couple of days later, so they 
> give you a bogus account to get service turned back on until the check 
> bounces.   The bank doesn’t charge them because they made up the account in 
> the first place, but we still get the $10 fee from the bank.   Not only did 
> they not pay the bill, they cost us fees.
>  
> There is a whole list of people we won’t accept EFT’s from anymore.
>  
> Mark
>  
>  
>  
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Josh Luthman  
>> wrote:
>>  
>> That may be the case, but there's no way I could really begin to track that. 
>>  We do card transactions daily.  If I try to compare Powercode's transaction 
>> list to Chase my eyes would get dizzy, especially if you throw in delayed 
>> transactions from some days.
>>  
>>  
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>  
>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Cameron Crum  wrote:
>>> You may have a couple cards that took longer to settle too. I'd check again 
>>> tomorrow or Monday and see if the money shows up. The vast majority of 
>>> time, we see funding in 48hrs, but sometimes it is longer.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Josh Luthman 
  wrote:
 We do minimal ACH, but I definitely appreciate the heads up =)
  
 We get (or at least used to...) an email when an NSF happens.  Haven't 
 seen that in quite some time, but we also quit doing ACH and probably have 
 3-5 customers using it.
 
  
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Cameron Crum  wrote:
> One thing you might check is make sure the ACH charges actually went 
> through if you have them. IPPay will get an approval from the bank and 
> give your system the approval, but if the funds are NSF on the day they 
> draw the transaction will reverse. There is no mechanism for IPPay to 
> report that via their API so it is up to the end user to check their 
> IPPay report. Just an idea. 
>  
>  
>  
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
>>  wrote:
>> That’s around what I was told and am expecting.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I’ll have to check the numbers again to make sure.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 11:38 AM
>> 
>> 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auditing IPpay
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> I've done fees/total charge and it was 1.99-2.01% I believe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I see that.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So I should be able to audit what Platypus/IPPay says was charged, with 
>> what goes into the bank account directly.
>> 
>> There are functions for doing that within Platypus, I just haven’t used 
>> them in years J
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Maybe I’m not so concerned about that as much as I’m wondering if the 
>> IPPay fees, and merchant fees are on par with the rate I think I’m 
>> supposed to be getting.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 11:26 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auditing IPpay
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Merchant fees come out as their own charge at the end of the month.  You 
>> should receive 100% of what you charge.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m wondering the same thing for Platypus billing.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> At times it seems the merchant fees are a lot higher that I thought they 
>> would be looking at the raw incoming in our 

[AFMUG] Procera competitors ?

[Tushar Patel]

Hi,

 

Who are the procera competitors?

 

Saisei

Allot,

Sandvine

 

Anybody else?

 

People who have deployed other than procera, can you share your experience?

 

Thanks,

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] special one time offer from Cambium

[Tushar Patel]

But he said ePMP 1000 is fine too. 

Tushar


> On Dec 19, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> That's not a Force radio :P
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2015 11:03 AM, "Tushar Patel" <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>> https://www.facebook.com/westernbroad/photos/a.966023656824332.1073741827.960442290715802/966023093491055/?type=3
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here you go Ray.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ray Savich
>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:25 PM
>> To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] special one time offer from Cambium
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/CambiumNetworks/posts/1234910573202230
>> 
>> one radio per customer…
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Join the Conversation
>> 
>> Cambium Networks Community Forum

Re: [AFMUG] special one time offer from Cambium

[Tushar Patel]

https://www.facebook.com/westernbroad/photos/a.966023656824332.1073741827.96
0442290715802/966023093491055/?type=3
 

 

 

Here you go Ray.

 

Tushar

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ray Savich
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:25 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com' 
Subject: [AFMUG] special one time offer from Cambium

 

https://www.facebook.com/CambiumNetworks/posts/1234910573202230 

one radio per customer.

 

Ray

 

Join the Conversation

Cambium Networks Community Forum  

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Password management

[Tushar Patel]

Screw that because they are charging or some problem with the software?

 

Tushar

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Password management

 

Lastpass just sold out.  Screw that.

 

Dropbox to carry the file and Keepass for me.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com 
<mailto:tpa...@ecpi.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

As we connect to more sites and more software, it is getting harder and harder 
to remember all password. I used to rotate few but lately with strict 
requirements it is hard. What is happening is every time I try to login I have 
to reset the password. 

 

I was looking at few password management software. Like laspass. Anybody uses 
this? Pro con? Any other suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Tushar

 

[AFMUG] OT: Password management

[Tushar Patel]

Hi,

 

As we connect to more sites and more software, it is getting harder and
harder to remember all password. I used to rotate few but lately with strict
requirements it is hard. What is happening is every time I try to login I
have to reset the password. 

 

I was looking at few password management software. Like laspass. Anybody
uses this? Pro con? Any other suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

[Tushar Patel]

GAP accounting standard allows you to come up with company policy. Where policy 
can say any item under $1000 will be expense. After that it does not matter how 
many items you buy under that price.  I am not accountant, you may want to 
check with accountant who are familiar with GAP standards. WISPA has vendor 
member kiesling, who can guide you in such matter.

Tushar


> On Dec 12, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Simon Westlake  wrote:
> 
> Can you get away with that on a big purchase though? Or is it because you are 
> buying it in small quantities?
> 
> E.g. if I buy 100 million dollars worth of CPE, I can't imagine I'd get away 
> with expensing it.
> 
>> On 12/11/2015 11:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> I have an asset item called "equipment" and an expense item called "non 
>> capital equipment".  If it costs less than $500 each or is likely to be 
>> gone, retired or used up before it can be depreciated, it gets expensed not 
>> depreciated.  I am reluctant to capitalize CPE.  Routers, servers, APs, 
>> backhauls get capitalized if they cost >$500.  My accountant has not 
>> complained.
>> 
>> If I purchase something other than equipment, like a vehicle or a building, 
>> it goes in its own asset category and my accountant decides what 
>> depreciation schedule is appropriate.  I suppose some big piece of software 
>> might get depreciated, I wouldn't know.
>> 
>> Not sure we are handling financed equipment properly.  Typically I have 3 
>> year $1 buyout leases, I don't own it for 3 years, and then it appears to be 
>> worth $1.  With a fair market value buyout, I guess you could take that and 
>> depreciate it, but I would probably argue with my accountant about a 5 year 
>> depreciation schedule on equipment that is already 3 years old.
>> 
>> Other special categories would be stuff like "goodwill" and intellectual 
>> property.  I guess when you pay $1000 per sub for a WISP whose hard asset 
>> have a book value of $1.58, the rest is goodwill and gets depreciated.
>> 
>> Then there's Section 179.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Simon Westlake
>> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:16 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation
>> 
>> How are you defining 'like' assets? Would you group together things like
>> routers and access points? Or are you getting more specific than that?
>> 
>>> On 12/11/2015 10:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> There are lots of depreciation methods. Straight line, accelerated, mass 
>>> depreciation.
>>> When you acquire assets over time it it is a pain in the ass to have a 
>>> schedule for each item.
>>> Mass allows you to throw all like assets into a common pot and take a 
>>> percentage of the pot as depreciation expense each year.
>>> That way you don't have to track when they enter.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Simon Westlake
>>> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 8:54 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation
>>> 
>>> When you depreciate your fixed assets, what method do you use to
>>> calculate it?
> 
> -- 
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
> https://sonar.software
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Tushar Patel]

We are considering procera, any reseller suggestion?

Tushar


> On Dec 10, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
> 
> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than that.  
> 
> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be 
> told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using 
> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for VoIP...and 
> many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most bandwidth 
> complaint calls.
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth 
>> in.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck Hogg
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
>> An: af@afmug.com
>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us 
>> current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:
>> 
>> Same with Barracuda basically.
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>> 
>> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
>> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
>> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>> 
>> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what 
>> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support 
>> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis, 
>> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up 
>> with an unusable chassis.
>> 
>> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>> >
>> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>> >
>> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
>> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>> >
>> 
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Tushar Patel]

We don't use Powercod so I wanted to find somebody who is not biased toward 
powercode for integration.

Tushar


> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Powercode.
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>> We are considering procera, any reseller suggestion?
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than 
>>> that.  
>>> 
>>> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be 
>>> told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using 
>>> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for 
>>> VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most 
>>> bandwidth complaint calls.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>>>> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth 
>>>> in.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck Hogg
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
>>>> An: af@afmug.com
>>>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get 
>>>> us current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chuck
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Same with Barracuda basically.
>>>> 
>>>> Rory
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>>> 
>>>> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
>>>> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
>>>> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>>>> 
>>>> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what 
>>>> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to 
>>>> license/support it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an 
>>>> expensive chassis, but I doubt you would save much in this particular 
>>>> case, and you may end up with an unusable chassis.
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>>>> >
>>>> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
>>>> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Simon Westlake
>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>>>> ---
>>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

[Tushar Patel]

What is the life of the asset? That will dictate the years you depreciate over. 
On all cases we have used straight line over life of the asset. 

So most hardware we do straight line 3 year. 

Tushar


> On Dec 11, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Simon Westlake  wrote:
> 
> When you depreciate your fixed assets, what method do you use to calculate it?
> 
> -- 
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
> https://sonar.software
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Work boots

[Tushar Patel]

Any suggestions for boots that come little higher up, some protection from not 
seen snakes?

Tushar


> On Nov 29, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
> 
> No, I always stuck with Caterpillar for years… last pair I bought (last year) 
> took about a week though to work in .. previous pair never seemed to need 
> breaking in (my feet were never ever sore wearing them)
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:47 PM
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Work boots
>  
> For years I have worn Caterpillar or Wolverine boots.  Today my wife got me a 
> pair of Chinook Tarantulas ...let's see how they feel after a few days... 
> Right know they are comfortable but stiff.  My get some Dr Scholls inserts 
> later... My feet have been aching so hope these help.   Has anyone had any of 
> these before? 

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

[Tushar Patel]

Is TA5000 lacking so much?

Is calix that much better?

Can somebody tell us what features Adran is lacking?  

We are going to decide soon on the FTTH vendor.

Tushar


> On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Adtran channel banks are just fine.  But their FTTH stuff leaves plenty to be 
> desired.  TA5000 is  an E7 wanna be. 
>  
> From: Paul Stewart
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 11:04 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System
>  
> Exactly …. Adtran’s marketing on some of their products and what their “real 
> world experience” is doesn’t like up.  Having said that, the TA5000 system 
> has promise and I’ve seen a number of ILEC’s deploying it (and CLEC’s).   
> Calix’s big issue is they have their head up their $$s on a lot of stuff – 
> once you waive 6 figures in front of them they seem to wake up …. Adtran on 
> the other hand will spend as much time as needed even over a $1k deal
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 12:40 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System
>  
> Just wish their products were as good as Calex et al.  
>  
> From: Lewis Bergman
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 10:35 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System
>  
> I think Adtran is likely the best company in tech when comparing product and 
> support. I wish I could claim I had as good a support team as they have. 
> Amazing.
> 
>  
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015, 11:22 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> On 11/25/15 7:27 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > I assume if they are using IP in the backbone, they aren’t doing it the
> > same way we do VoIP on the last mile, which is very inefficient, and
> > introduces a lot of latency.
> 
> 
> I supervised a CLEC delivery of SIP trunks yesterday - over a T1 (as
> EFM) using an Adtran 814.
> 
> ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a Ticketing System

[Tushar Patel]

Eric,

So we just install the suiteCRM, I am playing with it.

I am going trough the online class of sugarCRM, not identical but similar.

Any suggestions on the training, or consultant that will setup initial setup 
for us to get going?

We are also planning to integrate with platypus, mainly creating account out of 
suiteCRM to platypus.



Tushar


> On Nov 25, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> 
> SugarCRM is totally commercial now, but SuiteCRM has taken over the v6.5+ 
> code base from an open source angle is actively developed. It's what I use 
> for a CRM system now and quite flexible...  But it's *not* a ticketing system.
> 
> https://suitecrm.com/
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Jeremy  wrote:
>> SugarCRM?  I have no ideas about their pricing model.  
>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman  
>>> wrote:
>>> I think Dennis meant http://www.librenms.org/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
 On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Paul Stewart  
 wrote:
 Last update was 2002?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 10:37 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a Ticketing System
 
 http://liberum.org/
 
 
 Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
 den...@linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 x103 - www.linktechs.net
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 6:10 PM
 To: Animal Farm 
 Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for a Ticketing System
 
 This is for a personal project, but I think most of the things are the same
 that a WISP would use.  I'm looking for a Ticketing/Asset tracking
 application for building management.  Something where people could submit
 tickets, like 'The Door to room 200 won't close correctly'  that can be
 tracked, logged and closed.  Also managing things like Emergency lighting
 battery replacement, so be able to query something like 'show all Emergency
 lights with batteries older than 3 years'
 
 Money/accounting side of things is not really important, unless it's like 
 to
 associate a cost to closing out a ticket.  Like in the example above 'Room
 200 needed a new door handle, $12.95 at Home Depot'
 
 I really have no idea what's out there for ticketing/management these days,
 so places to start looking would be helpful.  Or is there a better way to
 manage/control a building?
 
 The Person I'm replacing (at my church) currently keeps all these things in
 his head, and I think it's going to be a pretty rough transition.  So as
 long as there is a paradigm shift happening, getting a sustainable system 
 in
 place for tracking and management I think will really help going forward.
 
 Nate
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a Ticketing System

[Tushar Patel]

What is the street price? 

Looking at online it is about $65/user/month.



Tushar


> On Nov 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
> 
> I know this may sound strange but have you looked at hosted Microsoft CRM?  
> It’s come a long ways
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:15 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a Ticketing System
>  
> SugarCRM is totally commercial now, but SuiteCRM has taken over the v6.5+ 
> code base from an open source angle is actively developed. It's what I use 
> for a CRM system now and quite flexible...  But it's *not* a ticketing system.
> 
> https://suitecrm.com/
> 
> 
>  
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Jeremy  wrote:
> SugarCRM?  I have no ideas about their pricing model.  
>  
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
> I think Dennis meant http://www.librenms.org/
> 
>  
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>  
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
> Last update was 2002?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 10:37 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a Ticketing System
> 
> http://liberum.org/
> 
> 
> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
> den...@linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 x103 - www.linktechs.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 6:10 PM
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for a Ticketing System
> 
> This is for a personal project, but I think most of the things are the same
> that a WISP would use.  I'm looking for a Ticketing/Asset tracking
> application for building management.  Something where people could submit
> tickets, like 'The Door to room 200 won't close correctly'  that can be
> tracked, logged and closed.  Also managing things like Emergency lighting
> battery replacement, so be able to query something like 'show all Emergency
> lights with batteries older than 3 years'
> 
> Money/accounting side of things is not really important, unless it's like to
> associate a cost to closing out a ticket.  Like in the example above 'Room
> 200 needed a new door handle, $12.95 at Home Depot'
> 
> I really have no idea what's out there for ticketing/management these days,
> so places to start looking would be helpful.  Or is there a better way to
> manage/control a building?
> 
> The Person I'm replacing (at my church) currently keeps all these things in
> his head, and I think it's going to be a pretty rough transition.  So as
> long as there is a paradigm shift happening, getting a sustainable system in
> place for tracking and management I think will really help going forward.
> 
> Nate
> 
>  
>  
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode dead?? No answer

[Tushar Patel]

Josh so are you on support staff of power code?

Tushar


> On Nov 24, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
> 
> Try again in a minute...
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>> Anyone tried to call Powercode lately?  Both sales and support immediately 
>> fail "call transfer failed - no answer" - of course I have an outage an need 
>> assistance.  No option to transfer to after hours support...nothing.  Just 
>> call transfer failed.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode dead?? No answer

[Tushar Patel]

So how do you explain your earlier response?

Tushar


> On Nov 24, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> No
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>> Josh so are you on support staff of power code?
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try again in a minute...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Anyone tried to call Powercode lately?  Both sales and support immediately 
>>>> fail "call transfer failed - no answer" - of course I have an outage an 
>>>> need assistance.  No option to transfer to after hours support...nothing.  
>>>> Just call transfer failed.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Austin San Antonio areas Storms

[Tushar Patel]

We lost two AP's too.

Tushar


> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Ty Featherling  wrote:
> 
> We got several inches of rain and some flash flooding but we are 50 miles 
> from where the tornadoes were spotted. Had lightning take out 4 APs last 
> night though. :(
> 
> -Ty
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015 7:50 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>> How you guys holding up there in the hill country?  Stay safe...
>> 
>> Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras

[Tushar Patel]

We just ordered few grandstream camera to test out and their dvr too.

Baltic network has good price 

Tushar


> On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
> 
> I am constructing a new building and I need a security camera system which 
> has DVR functionality and be remotely reachable, preferably via mobile. I 
> have had the cheap QSee Sams system and although functional it is a pretty 
> big disappointment from most perspectives.
> I know a lot of people use and install these.
> 
> Are there any suggestions for systems?

Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras

[Tushar Patel]

I am new to this so I have question, when you say following:

>+ real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx

What does it mean to us?  

To me any camera with good quality where you can see faces and/or license plate 
and record it or send via email etc.

So what does the mentioned camera does more which grandstream and/or ubnt does 
not?

Thanks,

Tushar


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sorin Esanu
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras

Hikvision DS-2CD2632F-I(S) or DS-2CD2732F-I(S)
+ cheap
+ real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx 
+ varifocal on board microSD for recording (you do not need NVR!) very 
+ good video quality IR included, pretty efective for distances up to 
+ 10m (their marketing
says 30m. BS!)
+ app for mobile, tablet, pc. I can be used for live view or search
recordings on SD camera
+ POE & 12VDC

- DWDR, but I guess you cannot ask for true WDR in a 200$ camera

It's basically one of the cheapest true surveillance cameras you can get for 
~$200. You can get them even cheaper than that, if you get quantity. 
They are also selling very nice NVRs, with decent prices, that can work 
flawless with their cameras.



On 10/30/2015 3:05 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> I am constructing a new building and I need a security camera system 
> which has DVR functionality and be remotely reachable, preferably via 
> mobile. I have had the cheap QSee Sams system and although functional 
> it is a pretty big disappointment from most perspectives.
> I know a lot of people use and install these.
>
> Are there any suggestions for systems?

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

[Tushar Patel]

Yes.  We use one from Citel, very happy with their products.

Tushar


> On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Tushar, when you say ground block you mean a surge suppressor?
> 
>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>> We used to loose lot of radios too.
>> 
>> We do following now and it seems to help (loosing less).
>> 
>> At top on the tower:
>> We put all AP on stand off (MTOW-p), then we have grounding block mounted on 
>> the stand off at same level as AP, then less then 2 feet of cable going from 
>> grounding block to AP. All shielded cable and grounded to tower.
>> 
>> We have lost few ground block on tower but it seems to save radios.
>> 
>> Some ideas came from orthogone system product and their grounding guide 
>> lines.
>> 
>> At the bottom
>> 
>> Shielded cable going to grounding block and then to equipments.
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> 
>> > On Oct 25, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > So we are loosing radios left and right due to lightning!
>> >
>> > Typical site setup:
>> >
>> > Radios on tower grounded to tower
>> >
>> > Shielded cable
>> >
>> > Shielded patch panel - grounded
>> >
>> > Regular cat5 jumpers
>> >
>> > Wbmfg SS - grounded
>> >
>> > Regular cat5 jumpers
>> >
>> > Poe device
>> >
>> > What's wrong?
>> >
>> >

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

[Tushar Patel]

We used to loose lot of radios too.

We do following now and it seems to help (loosing less).

At top on the tower:
We put all AP on stand off (MTOW-p), then we have grounding block mounted on 
the stand off at same level as AP, then less then 2 feet of cable going from 
grounding block to AP. All shielded cable and grounded to tower.

We have lost few ground block on tower but it seems to save radios.

Some ideas came from orthogone system product and their grounding guide lines.

At the bottom 
 
Shielded cable going to grounding block and then to equipments.

Tushar


> On Oct 25, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> 
> So we are loosing radios left and right due to lightning!
> 
> Typical site setup:
> 
> Radios on tower grounded to tower
> 
> Shielded cable
> 
> Shielded patch panel - grounded
> 
> Regular cat5 jumpers
> 
> Wbmfg SS - grounded
> 
> Regular cat5 jumpers
> 
> Poe device 
> 
> What's wrong?
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Wages

[Tushar Patel]

I personally believe, Time warner is doing lot of contractor is to avoid lot of 
labor laws, don’t need to pay worker’s comp, don’t need to pay overtime etc.

 

We have few time warner contractor now employed full time.  They used to get 
charge back for missing appoint time, even when they have been loaded with so 
much work and there is no  way they can make it on time etc. So many jobs they 
do it for free. Lot of them did not know how much they will get each week due 
to charge backs. Really bad for them.

 

In fact what time warner does is hire contracting company for their work and 
that company hires the contractor.

 

Lot of time if there are lot of claim on the contracting company, contracting 
company folds.  Few months later new company comes up with same people running 
it. In my opinion it is big racket.

 

Tushar

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Wages

 

Did not have good experience with that.  

Problem 1: You need enough volume of work to keep the person fed, or else you 
need someone who does other work and happens to also work for you, but then you 
can't know what their schedule is, which makes scheduling installs harder.

Problem 2: If you're keeping them busy with installations, you probably end up 
paying more.  The theoretical advantage is you're saving money when you're not 
busy, but the contractor who doesn't have work will go do something else. See 
problem 1.

Problem 3: If he has a problem with his tools/equipment/vehicle then you're a 
man down.  The theoretical advantage is you don't have to fix these problems, 
but they still hurt you and you've lost control of the resolution.

Problem 4:  There's more money in getting more volume of work done, so there's 
financial incentive to cut corners.  It might have been my luck, but IMO the 
quality of work from contractors was lower.

Problem 5: If the person is getting a flat rate for the work, then does he have 
any incentive to do work that might be harder or take longer?  IMO, some people 
were declaring an install to be a "no go" without exploring options like a pole 
in the yard, or a long mast.  If you gave them extra for longer jobs, then they 
now have an incentive to make every job take longer. 

Some of these issues are the same with an employee, but IMO you have more 
direct control over the situation.

These are just my observations and opinions.  I imagine most of this is fixable 
with the right processes in place or else Dish Network and Time Warner wouldn't 
have so many contractors out there. 

On 10/21/2015 12:00 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Is anyone hiring installers on a contract/1099, piece work basis? Like how the 
satellite TV installers are paid a flat rate per install for residential dish 
installations. Give them access to a ticketing system for your install queue, 
and a small stockpile of the common CPEs to keep on hand. Negotiate a 
per-install flat rate price.

If doing this, how does your cost compare to having someone on staff?

 

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Jeremy  > wrote:

We are a small shop, one installer, $17 per hour (40-hour week - gets time and 
a half almost every week). We buy all his tools, fuel, and supply a truck.  No 
Insurance benefits at this time. Paid holidays - vacation probably after year 
one.

 

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Darin Steffl  > wrote:

Hello all, 

 

What are of the US are you in and what is your average hourly rate for an 
installer? What about an installer and tower climber 15-20% of the time?

 

Any benefits, etc.? Looking for a big picture of what they make in a year 
hourly and benefits they have as well.

 

Thank you


 

-- 

Darin Steffl 

Minnesota WiFi

www.mnwifi.com  

507-634-WiFi

   Like us on Facebook

   

   

   

Re: [AFMUG] Honda EU2000i vs EU3000iS

[Tushar Patel]

We have Honda generator too, do we convert our self or we take to some place 
and they do it for you?

Tushar


> On Sep 28, 2015, at 6:12 PM, SmarterBroadband  
> wrote:
> 
> We have Yamaha and Honda 1000 inverter generators all converted to propane.  
> They work great and will run over 24 hours on one small BBQ sized tank.
>  
> Adam
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 3:43 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Honda EU2000i vs EU3000iS
>  
> I have an EU1000i and it will run for 4 days with the external tank, powering 
> a small site.
>  
> From: Sean Heskett
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 5:29 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Honda EU2000i vs EU3000iS
>  
> we have a couple of the EU2000i and they are great.  they are the size of a 
> large boom box and easy for one person to carry.  they are quiet and run 
> well.  our APC 1000XL UPSs are perfectly happy with the power that they spit 
> out.  we have the external 5 gallon tank and they will run for over a day 
> with that much fuel.
>  
> -sean
>  
>  
>  
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Peter Kranz  wrote:
> So we had two PG outages this week that lasted for extended periods of 
> time.. one 13 hours and another closer to 20 hours.. In both bases we lugged 
> the massive 5000 watt generator to the tower site. I think it weighs 250 lbs. 
> and is very hard to load and unload from the back of the pickup truck. 
> Honestly I think it’s one of those mom picking up a car from on top of their 
> baby moments every time I manage to load this thing by myself.
> 
>  
> 
> My biggest site takes ~1kw of power to run when the UPS is recharging the 
> on-site batteries (like it would be after a power outage) which seems well 
> within the possibility of the smaller Honda EU2000i unit.
> 
>  
> 
> I worry about the stability of the power, and it tripping the UPS, along with 
> its actual capacity to provide clean power that the UPS wont reject. I figure 
> I can run an external 6 gallon marine tank on one of these and keep a site up 
> for 24 hours easy.
> 
>  
> 
> So the next step up is the EU3000, which increases to 150lbs.. Still 100 lbs 
> lighter.. but..
> 
>  
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
>  
> 
> Peter Kranz
> www.UnwiredLtd.com
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>  
> 
>  

Re: [AFMUG] To be or not to be

[Tushar Patel]

I second that on most distributors are out of stock. We end up waiting lot. So 
may be put minimum stocking if not then go direct.

Tushar


> On Sep 23, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
> 
> I'd love to be able to order direct.  Most distributors are out of stock of 
> your stuff whenever I need it.  A lot of them play the 'drop ship' game too, 
> which causes delays.  I end up buying mounts from Tessco or Valmont because 
> they come faster.
> 
> Keefe
> 
>> On 9/23/2015 12:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Debating on whether or not to do AnimalFarm again. 
>>  
>> My moral dilemma is that I have this nice ecommerce website now but none of 
>> the ecommerce stuff is turned on.  Easy to do.  But then that starts to 
>> erode dealer sales.  And also erode the relationship with the dealers.
>>  
>> But it may capture sales that would otherwise be lost. 
>>  
>> In any event, if I am planning to do some direct sales, it is not fair to 
>> ask our dealers to sponsor AnimalFarm -  if I am serious about doing this 
>> that is.   
>>  
>> I am half serious.  Perhaps 60% serious.   As time passes, that percentage 
>> may grow. 
>> And the majority of the sponsorship comes from manufacturers, not dealers...
>>  
>> And AF is a bunch of work.  It breaks even.  Not what we would call a 
>> significant profit center in any way.
>>  
>> But as time has gone on, all of you have been great at crowdsourcing the 
>> setup
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cargo Van Shelving - Ram ProMaster City and others

[Tushar Patel]

Nissa nv200, has 100,000 miles/5 year warranty.


Tushar


> On Sep 20, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Darin Steffl  wrote:
> 
> Dodge is reliable or not? I've normally thought ford and Dodge are junk but 
> the promaster city seems to have good reviews. The earlier ford transit 
> connect had transmissions that went out between 40 and 80k and the Nissan 
> nv200 is too new to know. They did put on expensive hard to find tires on 
> those.
> 
> So I'm hoping no one has any negative feedback on the promaster city. Anyone 
> have one here that can type up a quick review?
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015 3:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"  
>> wrote:
>> In my experience Dodge != reliable
>> 
>>> On Sunday, September 20, 2015, Darin Steffl  wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> We've decided on going with the Ram ProMaster City for our next vehicle 
>>> purchase over the Ford or Nissan variants. This model should be more 
>>> reliable, is way more fun driving with a 9-speed tranny and has the most 
>>> cargo space among all of them.
>>> 
>>> I'm looking to see who you all use to upfit your vans with the shelving and 
>>> ladder racks on your vehicles? Also, if you have pictures of the inside of 
>>> the van showing the various configurations, that would be great. Also, any 
>>> other advice you have for us before moving forward with a purchase of these 
>>> vans. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/ram_promaster_city/ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Darin Steffl
>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>  Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

[Tushar Patel]

Dear Cambium,

 

 

I hope by now you have sent few people to factory and they are sitting down 
there and running test for a  week at least before the radios leave the factory.

 

Can somebody address to us on what is going on and what steps are being taken 
to address this?

 

Tushar

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Hardy
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 2:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

 

I'll second that.  We've had 10 out of 16 fail so far from a box of 25.   One 
customer has had 4 radios now installed at his location.   We've started 
replacing 450s with FSK equipment in critical locations.   We are trying to get 
the remainder of this box (9 radios) replaced since it is very likely that they 
will fail as well and we don't want to keep pushing this rock up the hill.  If 
anyone has advice on who to talk to I'm all ears.   So far, Cambium tech 
support is requiring us to get screen shots of the radios, AFTER they fail, to 
RMA them.   That is after our tech guys drive for two hours and swap the things 
out with another one likely to fail soon.   Pretty discouraging for our staff 
and customers.
Jeff


On 09/10/2015 05:26 AM, Tushar Patel wrote:

I thought the FSB came out because lot of people complain on the failures, so 
at least in my mind it was related. If it is not then cambium has not 
identified at least to us what is the root cause of the problem and it has been 
addressed.

 

They are doing RMA but there is know way 20% failure rate is sustainable in the 
field.

 

I hope cambium addresses this quickly and let us know what is going on.

 

I hope they allocate significant resources to this problem.


Tushar 

 


On Sep 9, 2015, at 11:08 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com 
<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com> > wrote:

I think the FSB is very specific to a set of radios that were identified as 
improperly assembled. I had one 5GHz 450 SM show the ADI communication failure. 
And a 3.6GHz SM show RF calibration failure. Both rebooted with ADI force 
resets. Both not on the list. Cambium RMA'd them without too many questions.

FYI. Maybe it's related, maybe not. I found some new SMs that had a few solder 
balls rattling around in the cases, but they work fine.

On 9/9/2015 9:21 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I have seen 2 out of around 100 suddenly exhibit the ADI Communications Failure 
after about a month in service, neither was on the serial number list.  So a 2 
day burn-in may help but you won’t be bullet-proof.  We’ve only seen it on 5 
GHz SMs, but we use a lot more 5 GHz than 3.65 GHz, and no 2.4 GHz.  No 
apparent correlation with any environmental conditions like hot or stormy 
weather that could have precipitated it.

 

Worst case will be it fails intermittently and the new customer just thinks 
your service is really unreliable.  One of the 2 failures we saw was 
intermittent, rebooting for several hours, then registered for several hours, 
then rebooting again, no rhyme or reason.  At least if it fails hard, they will 
call.

 

 

From: Tushar Patel <mailto:tpa...@ecpi.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:48 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

 

We had 9 failures in 50 we ordered, those were not listed in the unit serial 
numbers.

 

What we are doing now is running radios in the office for at least two days 
before we send out and we are seeing these failures in the office. 

 

Even after doing that today we had one fail which was 1 hr drive from the 
office and it was new customer too, installed last week. This gives us bad 
reputation and cost us lot too.

 

So whatever the root cause mentioned in the email, if it was identified but did 
not include the batch we got, so something is not adding up still. 

 

I really hope cambium gets to the bottom of these quickly. 

 

 

Tushar 

 


On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com 
<mailto:bigd...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Just a bump... was this ever sorted out?  Contained to just one batch of 5.8 
radios as listed?  I know I've seen reports in other frequencies but seemed 
less widespread?  No mention from anyone in a while...  Just want to know 
before our next order... 

 

-Steve D

 

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
<matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com 
<mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> > wrote:

I wanted to get this out to everyone before the weekend.  We found the root 
cause and identified the affected units by serial number.

 

See the attached Field Service Bulletin, and you can post any further comment 
or issue in the thread that discusses it here:  
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Field-Service-Bulletin-ADI-Catalina-R1-Chip-not-supported/m-p/43211#M1106

 

Apologies for the pain this issue has caused.

 

Matt Mangriotis

Senior Product Manager
Cambium Networks
3800

Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

[Tushar Patel]

I thought the FSB came out because lot of people complain on the failures, so 
at least in my mind it was related. If it is not then cambium has not 
identified at least to us what is the root cause of the problem and it has been 
addressed.

They are doing RMA but there is know way 20% failure rate is sustainable in the 
field.

I hope cambium addresses this quickly and let us know what is going on.

I hope they allocate significant resources to this problem.

Tushar


> On Sep 9, 2015, at 11:08 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
> 
> I think the FSB is very specific to a set of radios that were identified as 
> improperly assembled. I had one 5GHz 450 SM show the ADI communication 
> failure. And a 3.6GHz SM show RF calibration failure. Both rebooted with ADI 
> force resets. Both not on the list. Cambium RMA'd them without too many 
> questions.
> 
> FYI. Maybe it's related, maybe not. I found some new SMs that had a few 
> solder balls rattling around in the cases, but they work fine.
> 
>> On 9/9/2015 9:21 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> I have seen 2 out of around 100 suddenly exhibit the ADI Communications 
>> Failure after about a month in service, neither was on the serial number 
>> list.  So a 2 day burn-in may help but you won’t be bullet-proof.  We’ve 
>> only seen it on 5 GHz SMs, but we use a lot more 5 GHz than 3.65 GHz, and no 
>> 2.4 GHz.  No apparent correlation with any environmental conditions like hot 
>> or stormy weather that could have precipitated it.
>>  
>> Worst case will be it fails intermittently and the new customer just thinks 
>> your service is really unreliable.  One of the 2 failures we saw was 
>> intermittent, rebooting for several hours, then registered for several 
>> hours, then rebooting again, no rhyme or reason.  At least if it fails hard, 
>> they will call.
>>  
>>  
>> From: Tushar Patel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:48 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM
>>  
>> We had 9 failures in 50 we ordered, those were not listed in the unit serial 
>> numbers.
>>  
>> What we are doing now is running radios in the office   for at 
>> least two days before we send out and we are seeing these failures in the 
>> office.
>>  
>> Even after doing that today we had one fail which was 1 hr drive from the 
>> office and it was new customer too, installed last week. This gives us bad 
>> reputation and cost us lot too.
>>  
>> So whatever the root cause mentioned in the email, if   it was 
>> identified but did not include the batch we got, so something is not adding 
>> up still.
>>  
>> I really hope cambium gets to the bottom of these quickly.
>>  
>>  
>> Tushar
>>  
>> 
>> On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just a bump... was this ever sorted out?  Contained to just one batch of 
>>> 5.8 radios as listed?I know I've seen reports in other 
>>> frequencies but seemed less widespread?  No mention from anyone in a 
>>> while...  Just want to know before our next order...
>>>  
>>> -Steve D
>>>  
>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
>>>> <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>> I wanted to get this out to everyone before the weekend.  We found the 
>>>> root cause and identified the affected units by serial number.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> See the attached Field Service Bulletin, and you can post any further 
>>>> comment or issue in the thread that discusses it here:  
>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Field-Service-Bulletin-ADI-Catalina-R1-Chip-not-supported/m-p/43211#M1106
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies for the pain this issue has caused.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Matt Mangriotis
>>>> 
>>>> Senior Product Manager
>>>> Cambium Networks
>>>> 3800 Golf Road, Suite 360
>>>> 
>>>> Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> www.cambiumnetworks.com
>>>> O: 847-439-6379
>>>> 
>>>> M: 630-308-9394
>>>> E: m...@cambiumnetworks.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Join the Conversation
>>>> 
>>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum
>>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

[Tushar Patel]

Dave,

 

We had same issue “Registering”, we had to roll back to 13.2.

 

Tushar

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Sovereen
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

 

Do your SMs hang in REGISTERING or another state?  We have SMs on 13.4 stuck on 
REGISTERING that only come back by power-cycling them and have a ticket open 
with Cambium on it.  They’ve acknowledged the issue but haven’t provided even a 
beta or test version that might fix it.

 

Dave

 

On Sep 9, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Wireless Administrator  > wrote:

 

I have two open tickets that I need to work on with Cambium. 

 

* SM’s hang – Not passing customer data and no response on Wan side.  
Power on reset required.

* Installers unable to access the SM in NAT mode from the Ethernet 
side.  Responds to ping but not telnet or browser.  If you catch it within 
seconds of post completion you can get in with browser.

 

Anyone else having issues?  I need to provide Cambium the details they 
requested to move forward with problem determination.

 

Steve B.

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

[Tushar Patel]

We had 9 failures in 50 we ordered, those were not listed in the unit serial 
numbers.

What we are doing now is running radios in the office for at least two days 
before we send out and we are seeing these failures in the office. 

Even after doing that today we had one fail which was 1 hr drive from the 
office and it was new customer too, installed last week. This gives us bad 
reputation and cost us lot too.

So whatever the root cause mentioned in the email, if it was identified but did 
not include the batch we got, so something is not adding up still. 

I really hope cambium gets to the bottom of these quickly. 


Tushar


> On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Steve D  wrote:
> 
> Just a bump... was this ever sorted out?  Contained to just one batch of 5.8 
> radios as listed?  I know I've seen reports in other frequencies but seemed 
> less widespread?  No mention from anyone in a while...  Just want to know 
> before our next order...
> 
> -Steve D
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
>>  wrote:
>> I wanted to get this out to everyone before the weekend.  We found the root 
>> cause and identified the affected units by serial number.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> See the attached Field Service Bulletin, and you can post any further 
>> comment or issue in the thread that discusses it here:  
>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Field-Service-Bulletin-ADI-Catalina-R1-Chip-not-supported/m-p/43211#M1106
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Apologies for the pain this issue has caused.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Matt Mangriotis
>> 
>> Senior Product Manager
>> Cambium Networks
>> 3800 Golf Road, Suite 360
>> 
>> Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> www.cambiumnetworks.com
>> O: 847-439-6379
>> 
>> M: 630-308-9394
>> E: m...@cambiumnetworks.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Join the Conversation
>> 
>> Cambium Networks Community Forum
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] 477 SAC and Filer IDs

[Tushar Patel]

I had same problem yesterday. But after clicking few times it let me go pass 
that point without having numbers in those field.

Tushar


> On Aug 31, 2015, at 3:25 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>  wrote:
> 
> This website is making me put these two thing in, what are they, this is 
> different than the last round
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 477 SAC and Filer IDs

[Tushar Patel]

I had hard time on that too. There is explanation on the 15 digit code (state, 
county etc), look at the example PDF.

Sub code generated out of platypus did not match the one explained in the 
deployment example.


Tushar


> On Aug 31, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Robbie Wright <rob...@siuslawbroadband.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Mine either. Subs went, deployment didn't.
> 
> 
> Robbie Wright
> Siuslaw Broadband
> 541-902-5101
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:45 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> this deployment set just wont load, stupid fcc
>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:34 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I always thought it was to let white people know how tho pronounce the J
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> No ese vatos...its for Holmes. Orale! His cart was chopped down short... 
>>>> Low to the ground.. Metal flake sand color with baby moons and tuck and 
>>>> roll upholstery.. It was a really choice ride!!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 31, 2015 4:26 PM, "Dan Petermann" <d...@wyoming.com> wrote:
>>>>> I asked that question once and the answer I got was Hemp. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t think that is correct….
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've always wondered what the "H" stood for in that exclamation.
>>>>>> He-man?  Holy? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/31/2015 5:07 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>> Jesus H christ!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This thing is still processing a 1k file
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I had same problem yesterday. But after clicking few times it let me 
>>>>>>>> go pass that point without having numbers in those field.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tushar
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 3:25 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This website is making me put these two thing in, what are they, this 
>>>>>>>>> is different than the last round
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
>>>>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
>>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 13.4 Watchdog Reset

[Tushar Patel]

Same here, we are back on 13.2, we tried 13.4 on two 450 AP's, we do radius for 
authentication and bandwidth, and we found every now and then SM will show 
registering on ap, you can get to SM , it won't pass the traffic. 

We still have reboot on 13.2 still.



Tushar


 On Aug 28, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Joe Falaschi listm...@wi.net wrote:
 
 All of our 450 APs running 13.2 are rebooting themselves with watchdog 
 exceptions.  We do not have a 450 AP with uptime of more than 22 days.  We 
 haven't opened a support ticket with Cambium.  I guess if we all don't do 
 that it won't get fixed.  Are they saying if the APs are not synced they 
 won't reboot?  We are using CMM Micros.  Agreed that isn't helpful just 
 curious.
 
 We tried upgrading to 13.4 but had trouble with the upgrade.  We ended up 
 stranding a few SMs and needing to roll a truck to a handful of customers.  
 We're back to 13.2 now.
 
 Joe Falaschi
 e-vergent
 
 
 On 8/28/15 9:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
 We have been seeing this across 200+ AP's
 
 It's getting truly annoying.   Cambium tech support has helpful suggestions 
 like'just put them in free run'.   Um Thanks for the help, but no.
 
 Mark Radabaugh
 Amplex
 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F
 Millbury, OH 43447
 419-261-5996
 
 On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net 
 wrote:
 
 Last week we rolled out 13.4 to 450 AP's after testing in-house for a 
 while.  While running 13.2 we would see an AP here or there reboot on 
 occasion by itself.  The only message in the Event Log mentions Watchdog 
 Reset.  This is one of the bugs that Cambium noted was fixed in the 13.4 
 release notes.
 
 Since we upgraded the network to 13.4 we are now seeing at least 4 AP's out 
 there rebooting several times per day.  On one of these AP's we are also 
 seeing SM's (all 17 registered) reboot along with the AP.  The site has UPS 
 backup so I know it's not a power grid problem.  I am planning to roll the 
 affected AP's back to 13.2 this evening.
 
 Anyone else having Watchdog issues with the 13.4 release?
 
 **System Startup**
 System Reset Exception -- Watchdog Reset
 Software Version : CANOPY 13.4 AP-DES
 Board Type : P12
 Device Setting : 5.7GHz MIMO OFDM - Access Point - 0a-00-3e-a0-08-e5 - 
 5760.0 MHz - 20.0 MHz - 1/16 - CC 85 - 2.5 ms
 FPGA Version : 040715
 FPGA Features : DES, Sched, US/ETSI;
 08/28/2015 : 14:11:42 CST : :Time Set
 08/28/2015 : 14:11:58 CST : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port.
 

[AFMUG] NOC contact info for skybeam?

[Tushar Patel]

Hi,

 

We are having some frequency interference issue, does anybody have contact
info of the person at skybeam who we can talk too?

 

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

[Tushar Patel]

We had few failures too, I thought it was high too,  but some how my staff 
convinced me that it is not too high considering how many we have in the field. 

We will compile now how many from various batch.

Tushar


 On Aug 12, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:
 
 And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….
 
 Mark
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:
 
 Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't even 
 survive a few weeks???
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:
 Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about 
 Motorola quality:  
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality
 
 3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.
 
 Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect to 
 fall over dead?
 
 Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   Makes 
 us look like idiots.
 
 Mark
 

Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist

[Tushar Patel]

So what is the good place (book, website) to understand MPLS?

Tushar


 On Aug 9, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:
 
 If you’re looking at using “any routing protocol” then make sure you 
 understand the differences between routing protocols and how that applies to 
 MPLS. 
  
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
 Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed vs bridge with a twist
  
 To be precise mpls needs routing working. You can do any routing protocol or 
 even static routing.
 
 
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 Von: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net 
 Datum: 09.08.2015 05:02 (GMT+01:00) 
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Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!

[Tushar Patel]

Where is that rack sitting? Curb side?

Tushar


 On Aug 8, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote:
 
 The rack company sells trays with precut lengths of fiber.
  
 So I think we ordered with 100’ lengths and spliced it in the truck in a 
 large case splice that sits in a handhold about 10 feet away from the rack on 
 the curb.
  
 The crew liked this way better than splicing on the rack itself.
  
  
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
 Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 1:15 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!
  
 Looks good, how are you transitioning from the OSP cable to the TE rackmount 
 unit?
 
 On Friday, August 7, 2015, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote:
 I guess the list doesn't like 2MB file attachments, lol!
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
 Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 3:35 PM
 To: 'af@afmug.com' af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!
 
 This time I used a super dense 4U LC fiber panel that can connect up to 576.
 
 I've got about 370 of it loaded with fiber, about a third of that will be 
 connected here.
 
 It requires the thinner mil cable which is the only PITA about this setup 
 really.
 
 It's using 24 port 1U fiber switches, but I'm still looking for a good Planet 
 rep to get the 48 port 1U density.
 I could upgrade to those and fill out the entire 12U switch space to match 
 the 576 panel capacity.
 Not going to have 100 percent take rate I'm sure, but it's nice to know I can 
 get the density in one cabinet.

Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!

[Tushar Patel]

It says curb side never mind. Does it need cooling?

Tushar


 On Aug 8, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Tushar Patel tpa...@ecpi.com wrote:
 
 Where is that rack sitting? Curb side?
 
 Tushar
 
 
 On Aug 8, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote:
 
 The rack company sells trays with precut lengths of fiber.
  
 So I think we ordered with 100’ lengths and spliced it in the truck in a 
 large case splice that sits in a handhold about 10 feet away from the rack 
 on the curb.
  
 The crew liked this way better than splicing on the rack itself.
  
  
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
 Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 1:15 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!
  
 Looks good, how are you transitioning from the OSP cable to the TE rackmount 
 unit?
 
 On Friday, August 7, 2015, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote:
 I guess the list doesn't like 2MB file attachments, lol!
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
 Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 3:35 PM
 To: 'af@afmug.com' af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!
 
 This time I used a super dense 4U LC fiber panel that can connect up to 576.
 
 I've got about 370 of it loaded with fiber, about a third of that will be 
 connected here.
 
 It requires the thinner mil cable which is the only PITA about this setup 
 really.
 
 It's using 24 port 1U fiber switches, but I'm still looking for a good 
 Planet rep to get the 48 port 1U density.
 I could upgrade to those and fill out the entire 12U switch space to match 
 the 576 panel capacity.
 Not going to have 100 percent take rate I'm sure, but it's nice to know I 
 can get the density in one cabinet.

Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!

[Tushar Patel]

So you are allowed to put cabinet of that size on right of way? Or you get 
lease from home owner?

Power from power company at 15 amp?

Tushar


 On Aug 8, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote:
 
 Most of our cabinets sit back from the curb 10-20 feet.
  
 There is usually a large hand hold next to the curb, or even part of the 
 cabinet pad that we pour.
  
 Then we just plumb several pipes through the pad to the hand hole for access 
 (before the pour).
  
 The cabinets are cooled with re-circulating AC units that draw about 450W of 
 power.
  
 My power budget is usually pretty tight at 15 amps due to the location of 
 most of these cabinets.
  
 So I have to make sure I calculate appropriate watt usage and not go over 
 budget with everything.
  
 I also have to calculate btu/heat output to make sure I don’t exceed my A/C 
 capacity to cool.
  
  
  
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tushar Patel
 Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 1:36 PM
 To: Tushar Patel tpa...@ecpi.com
 Cc: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!
  
 It says curb side never mind. Does it need cooling?
 
 Tushar
  
 
 On Aug 8, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Tushar Patel tpa...@ecpi.com wrote:
 
 Where is that rack sitting? Curb side?
 
 Tushar
  
 
 On Aug 8, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote:
 
 The rack company sells trays with precut lengths of fiber.
  
 So I think we ordered with 100’ lengths and spliced it in the truck in a 
 large case splice that sits in a handhold about 10 feet away from the rack on 
 the curb.
  
 The crew liked this way better than splicing on the rack itself.
  
  
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
 Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 1:15 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!
  
 Looks good, how are you transitioning from the OSP cable to the TE rackmount 
 unit?
 
 On Friday, August 7, 2015, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote:
 I guess the list doesn't like 2MB file attachments, lol!
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
 Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 3:35 PM
 To: 'af@afmug.com' af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Another neighborhood on fiber, sexy sexy!
 
 This time I used a super dense 4U LC fiber panel that can connect up to 576.
 
 I've got about 370 of it loaded with fiber, about a third of that will be 
 connected here.
 
 It requires the thinner mil cable which is the only PITA about this setup 
 really.
 
 It's using 24 port 1U fiber switches, but I'm still looking for a good Planet 
 rep to get the 48 port 1U density.
 I could upgrade to those and fill out the entire 12U switch space to match 
 the 576 panel capacity.
 Not going to have 100 percent take rate I'm sure, but it's nice to know I can 
 get the density in one cabinet.