Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*****, Re: 5 Wifi Extenders

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

6000 sq.  I've never seen anything like it. 

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> On Nov 17, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> I never recommend them.
>  
> The only acceptable ‘extender’ scenario I’ve encountered was with Apple 
> router and extender, but the extender was wired back to the router.
>  
> Can’t see how a wirelessly connected extender is going to help much with 
> speed.
>  
> Maybe it’s antenna is better than the client antenna and can get better 
> signal to the router, but then traffic is using two channels, or half duplex 
> or something to extend wirelessly. Not sure there is much gained.
>  
> It is always better in my opinion to centralize the existing router, or 
> upgrade it to a better router with more power and lots more external antennas 
> etc.
>  
>  
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:45 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders
>  
> How big is this house ? I honestly hate the extenders 
> From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
> Sent: ‎11/‎17/‎2015 4:42 PM
> To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders
> 
> Any of you ever come across a house with this many extenders.  Sounds like 
> trouble lurking to me.
>  
> Tyson Burris, President 
> Internet Communications Inc. 
> 739 Commerce Dr. 
> Franklin, IN 46131 
>   
> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
> Online: www.surfici.net
>  
> 
> What can ICI do for you?
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Who's responsible for RMAs at Cambium?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

RMA process sucks.  Needs revamped to be efficient and quick turnaround.  I 
want a hot swap process in place

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> On Aug 10, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> I hate not getting any kind of a response after filling that god awful form.  
> At the very least an automated answer if you guys are SO determined to use it.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Seen it brother.  We downgraded 

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> On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Matt Hopkins  wrote:
> 
> This was not a browser cache issue. The APs that had the "Registering" issue 
> had anywhere from 9-65 SMs. Cambium support advised me to downgrade to 13.2.1 
> and said that it was a known issue.
> Matt Hopkins
> OnlineNW Support
> 503.687.1030
> supp...@onlinenw.com
> onlinenw.com
>> On 7/17/2015 4:34 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>> Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't see any change in power levels either.
>> 
>>> On 7/17/2015 6:33 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>> I've updated a couple 5GHz 450 sectors so far and haven't seen this. They 
>>> all have less than 20 SMs though. Do yours have a lot of SMs? Are you also 
>>> sure it's not a browser cache issue?
>>> 
>>> Yes, the Lites are a special build, 13.2.1.3 which Cambium hasn't made 
>>> available so I've also been hesitant to update any of them.
>>> 
 On 7/17/2015 5:59 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
 I just wanted to throw out a heads-up for a Friday afternoon. What is 
 happening is that some of the SMs are displayed as "registering" in the AP 
 even after they are registered. You could click on the SM in the table and 
 it would take you to the SM like normal still. This happened on a 2.4 450 
 and multiple 5GHz 450 APs. The signal doesn't seem to matter as some of 
 the SMs had signals as good as -67 with 29 SNR. Traffic would not pass 
 over the SM and if they had an additional VC for voice it wouldn't ever 
 establish. I also saw that overall signal levels of SMs were 5 db (give or 
 take) worse on 13.4. Additionally it seems that Lite APs (-APL) are not 
 letting me roll back to 13.2.1, or any other version for that matter. I am 
 glad I only upgraded a handful of APs because I'm excited for the new CoA 
 feature.
 -- 
 Matt Hopkins
 Network Administrator
 503.687.1030
 supp...@onlinenw.com
 onlinenw.com
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:************, Re: 450 SM and 430 AP

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Review my comment again... I said "tone" 

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> On Jun 26, 2015, at 8:01 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
> 
> From

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:************, eptp 5ghz backhaul dish options.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

So simple.  Drop yourself a KP Performance ePMP mounting adapter onto a UBNT 2' 
dish.  Add your radio.   Get nice pretty links.  Cambium and UBNT married as 
one 

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> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:
> 
> Wondering if anyone has used any of the microtik 30db dishes with the ePTP 
> units and how mounting went and if there was any real issues? We are looking 
> to deploy 10 units next month and I want a 2 foot dish with a radome on the 
> links. The force 110 dishes would be fine for these links but I don’t want to 
> chance ice buildup this winter so I need to find another option that the ePTP 
> can mount to easily. Unless Chuck wants to make me 10 radomes for the force 
> 110’s?
>  
> Appreciate any experience you guys have with so far.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Brandon Yuchasz
> GogebicRange.net
> www.gogebicrange.net
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Bingo!  That's what you need

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> On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Steve Utick  wrote:
> 
> So, something like this then?   
> https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=445755
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc 
>>  wrote:
>> Simple:  buy cat 5 grounding kits for
>> Shielded cable.  Use them at top, middle and bottom. No more no less.  
>> Doesn't involve cutting cable just connect into shield and water proof like 
>> hell. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would NOT put Cat5 surge protectors every 50-75 feet, you will likely get 
>>> Ethernet errors and/or negotiation problems.  At most there should be one 
>>> at each end.
>>>  
>>> You are probably thinking of coax, and even so I suspect those are shield 
>>> grounds, not actual surge protectors.
>>>  
>>> I do agree with not making your antennas the highest thing on the tower if 
>>> you can help it.
>>>  
>>> If you must use an omni antenna located at the top, I have had some success 
>>> with a COAX surge protector between the radio and the antenna.  Polyphaser 
>>> makes some DC blocking types that work OK and aren’t too expensive.  If 
>>> lightning hits, the omni is still probably toast, but it might save the 
>>> radio.
>>>  
>>> From: Edward Brooks
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:24 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues
>>>  
>>> Here goes...
>>>  We have a new 118' Super Titan Max tower that has been grounded per 
>>> manufacturers recommendations.  Each leg is physically bonded (not 
>>> exothermically) to a 10' ground rod, all ground rods are then connected to 
>>> each other in a ring.  The equipment cabinet is bonded to an 8' ground rod 
>>> and tied into the meter base grounding as well.  The two ground rings are 
>>> then bonded to each other in 2 separate places.
>>>  With that said our issue has not been with the grounding, but with the 
>>> dissipation of static at the height of the antennas.  We currently have had 
>>> the worst problems with the 3 Cyclone 2.4 antennas which are currently 
>>> located on masts at the top of the tower.  We have also had issues with a 
>>> couple of the 5.7 Cyclones located below the top of the tower, but not as 
>>> frequently.  The center-line of the 2.4 APs is 120' AGL, the height of the 
>>> tower is 118' AGL.  We currently have WB-GigE-APC surge arrestors located 
>>> in the cabinet which is located 10 ft from the base of the tower.
>>>  After doing some research through various Cambium manuals and the 
>>> Motorola R56 manual, I have some idea what our issue is, but would like to 
>>> bounce those ideas off the community.  My thought is that we neglected to 
>>> put surge arrestors at 50' to 75' intervals (as recommended by the Motorola 
>>> R56 manual) and 1 at the top for use in thunderstorm areas.  Also we may 
>>> need to lower the APs to a minimum of 2ft below the top of the tower (per 
>>> the Cambium manuals for various antenna types).
>>>  Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.  What have you done 
>>> to mitigate this problem?  Etc...
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Ed
>>> -- 
>>> Edward Brooks
>>> Outside Plant Manager
>>> The Montana Internet Corporation
>>> 406-443-3347 X506
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Simple:  buy cat 5 grounding kits for
Shielded cable.  Use them at top, middle and bottom. No more no less.  Doesn't 
involve cutting cable just connect into shield and water proof like hell. 

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> On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> I would NOT put Cat5 surge protectors every 50-75 feet, you will likely get 
> Ethernet errors and/or negotiation problems.  At most there should be one at 
> each end.
>  
> You are probably thinking of coax, and even so I suspect those are shield 
> grounds, not actual surge protectors.
>  
> I do agree with not making your antennas the highest thing on the tower if 
> you can help it.
>  
> If you must use an omni antenna located at the top, I have had some success 
> with a COAX surge protector between the radio and the antenna.  Polyphaser 
> makes some DC blocking types that work OK and aren’t too expensive.  If 
> lightning hits, the omni is still probably toast, but it might save the radio.
>  
> From: Edward Brooks
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:24 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues
>  
> Here goes...
>  We have a new 118' Super Titan Max tower that has been grounded per 
> manufacturers recommendations.  Each leg is physically bonded (not 
> exothermically) to a 10' ground rod, all ground rods are then connected to 
> each other in a ring.  The equipment cabinet is bonded to an 8' ground rod 
> and tied into the meter base grounding as well.  The two ground rings are 
> then bonded to each other in 2 separate places.
>  With that said our issue has not been with the grounding, but with the 
> dissipation of static at the height of the antennas.  We currently have had 
> the worst problems with the 3 Cyclone 2.4 antennas which are currently 
> located on masts at the top of the tower.  We have also had issues with a 
> couple of the 5.7 Cyclones located below the top of the tower, but not as 
> frequently.  The center-line of the 2.4 APs is 120' AGL, the height of the 
> tower is 118' AGL.  We currently have WB-GigE-APC surge arrestors located in 
> the cabinet which is located 10 ft from the base of the tower.
>  After doing some research through various Cambium manuals and the 
> Motorola R56 manual, I have some idea what our issue is, but would like to 
> bounce those ideas off the community.  My thought is that we neglected to put 
> surge arrestors at 50' to 75' intervals (as recommended by the Motorola R56 
> manual) and 1 at the top for use in thunderstorm areas.  Also we may need to 
> lower the APs to a minimum of 2ft below the top of the tower (per the Cambium 
> manuals for various antenna types).
>  Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.  What have you done to 
> mitigate this problem?  Etc...
> 
> Thanks,
> -Ed
> -- 
> Edward Brooks
> Outside Plant Manager
> The Montana Internet Corporation
> 406-443-3347 X506
> 
> 
>   
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. 
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> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Re: Come on Unbt! (AF-5X)

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

I can write you a beautiful story.  What do you want it to say?  It will be 
your best seller with pictures and content that make RF geeks wet.  Oh I 
probably should keep the details secret! 

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> On May 20, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Matt Hardy  wrote:
> 
> It's funny you guys are joking about that, because we have been getting 
> "fake" stories ;)
> 
> Some have even copied screenshots from other sections, haha... 
> 
> Probably Luthman?
> 
>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:
>> Nate, the contest is for a fictional "If I had an AF5X" story. The winner 
>> may get radios to make their wish happen.
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2015 10:35 AM, "Nate Burke"  wrote:
>>> I got a note from Ubnt about a contest to 'Share your AF-5X story, and win 
>>> a pair of radios'  I would love to submit a story !! IF I COULD GET 
>>> RADIOS !!
>>> 
>>> Get them into distribution before you start having contests  I have a 
>>> standing order with my distributor, but they say they have no idea when 
>>> they'll be getting more radios to fill it.
>>> 
>>> Nate
> 

[AFMUG] ePmP FW 2.4 bug?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Is there a bug in the 2.4 firmware that locks you out of the ePMP IF MANUAL AND 
1000 is set?

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Epmp 2.4 bug - no ap list

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

LMAO.  Josh you are just like me! Call people out for the BS THEY PUT OUT.

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> On Mar 20, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> Are you f$%king serious?
> 
> Do you guys even make sure the thing compiled before you release it???  What 
> a dumbass bug!!!
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Yes. Agreed. 

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> On Feb 28, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> Though I wouldn't buy Cogent (or HE) for full routes. Cogent for customer 
> routes only and peer with HE.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:12:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?
> 
> Can you transport back to a datacenter?
> Cogent offers 1Gb cheap.  $700-$900 is the going rate.
>  
>  
> Tyson Burris, President 
> Internet Communications Inc. 
> 739 Commerce Dr. 
> Franklin, IN 46131 
>   
> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
> Online: www.surfici.net
>  
> 
> What can ICI do for you?
> 
> Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
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> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:12 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?
>  
> What's the best price you guys have seen for a full gig with at&t?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
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> 

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

No one on this List or the FCC will convince me that the telco needed this to 
get federal funds to help them with network builds.  THEY have PISSED AWAY all 
USF funds they keep getting.  How the hell do you think Century Link bought 
Embarq!

The USF FEE has been around since 1934 and added to in 1996.  All for the very 
purpose to support these idiots.  

I want everyone who voted for this rule fired and citizenship revoked!

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> On Jan 30, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Glen Waldrop  wrote:
> 
> According to 477, if I have a census area that only has 1Mbps customers, then 
> that area is labeled under served, correct?
> 
> Looks like the FCC just figured a way to hand their buddies grant money or 
> (dons tin foil hat) ultimately take over the Internet infrastructure.
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Bill Prince
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
> 
> I don't know if we can answer that question until we see how the rule is 
> worded if and when it actually becomes a rule.
> 
> bp
> 
> 
> On 1/30/2015 12:21 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>> Even if you don�t deliver 25Mbps as defined, can�t you just put a plan 
>> rate for 25Mbps and give it some ridiculous price that no one will ever buy, 
>> then claim broadband?
>> �
>> I mean the other lower plan rates wouldn�t be broadband, but your company 
>> could be branded as selling  broadband?
>> �
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
>> Communications Inc
>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:40 PM
>> To: memb...@wispa.org
>> Cc: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>> �
>> 1.������ Is the 25Mbps 
>> classification immediate?
>> 2.������ What are you NOW 
>> going to call your previously determined �broadband� service?
>> �
>> �
>> Tyson Burris, President 
>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>> � 
>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
>> Online: www.surfici.net
>> �
>> 
>> What can ICI do for you?
>> 
>> Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
>> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
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>> unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
>> prohibited.
>> 
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> 

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

No one on this List or the FCC will convince me that the telco needed this to 
get federal funds to help them with network builds.  THEY have PISSED AWAY all 
USF funds they keep getting.  How the hell do you think Century Link bought 
Embarq!

The USF FEE has been around since 1934 and added to in 1996.  All for the very 
purpose to support these idiots.  

I want everyone who voted for this rule fired and citizenship revoked!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Rex-List Account  wrote:
> 
> Hey I know Jack Schitt. Nice fella.
>  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNqLSch84aQ
> Not sure if he is a Comcast customer though. J
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:12 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> Jack Shit?  Is he another Comcast customer?
> http://elliott.org/blog/hello-dummy-comcast-calls-customers-shocking-names/
>  
>  
> From: Mike Hammett
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:29 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> According to Corran, it doesn't mean jack shit yet. There's no regulation or 
> funding tied to it.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Jason McKemie" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 7:06:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
> 
> Doesn't this just mean if you don't offer service of at least 25mbps your 
> area won't count as served? I'm pretty sure you can call your service 
> whatever you damn well please.
> 
> On Friday, January 30, 2015, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
> Keep in mind the cable companies don't get federal subsidies.  The cable data 
> operations are unregulated information service exactly like us, and they can 
> easily meet the 25/3. 
>  
> They are opposed because it means the telcos are going to be given federal 
> money to upgrade to 25/3 and become competition.
>  
> Cable spends it's own money to compete, just like us.  They are equally 
> ticked over changing the definition so that their competition, who has not 
> spent their own money, and waited for government handouts is going to be 
> rewarded.
> 
> 
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F
> Millbury, OH 43447
> 419-261-5996
> 
> On Jan 30, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
> 
> I found it interesting that the cable companies were claiming to be against 
> this change.  This seems handcrafted by them if you ask me.  Every year when 
> they request funding the WISPs in those areas (with the help of WISPA) file 
> claims against them receiving those funds under the basis that 'broadband' is 
> already available in those areas where they are claiming that it is not.  
> This has actually worked fairly well in keeping those entities from receiving 
> those funds.  Now, almost none of us meet the 'broadband' qualification and 
> now they can use the government funds to build out on top of us almost 
> uncontested.
>  
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
> My company is called 'Blue Spring Broadband'.  I will not be changing my 
> name.  We offer dedicated connections up to 100Mbps, and more on a 
> case-by-case basis (ie. I would offer 1Gbps near the NOC to anyone willing to 
> pay for it).  Although we do not offer more than 15x3 to residential 
> currently, I still believe we can be classified as a broadband service 
> provider.  I happily give quotes on a 25x25 dedicated unlimited connection to 
> any residential customers that ask for it ($1K/mo. roughly).  Until some 
> governing entity tells me different that is my stance.
>  
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> It’s depressing to think about all the government money that went to 
> subsidize 1 Mbps (if that) Hughesnet service under the recovery act.
>  
> The contradiction is like setting a standard that every citizen must get 
> fresh whole grain organic locally grown low sugar low sodium food, just a 
> couple years after handing out pork rinds, moon pies and Jolt cola in the 
> school lunch program.
>  
>  
> From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:22 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> +1.  They have the added complication that they are way oversubscribed 
> compared to almost everything else.
> 
> Let's not even mention latency. 
> 
> If "broadband" included something about latency (like "just" < 200 ms for 
> instance), then they would lose big time.
> 
> 
> bp
> 
>  
> On 1/30/2015 1:17 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote:
> Doubtful. They can't sustain those speeds wide spread any better than we can.
>  
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: That One Guy
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> at those sustained speeds, the only tech that could realistically deliver to 
> the rural market right now would be satellite woul

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Petition Circulating

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Two questions: 

1.  IF passed will WISPs be able to apply and get money from the fund since 
they are excluded now?

2.  Do you expect this to pass?

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> On Jan 26, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:
> 
> Save Small Internet Service 
> Providers
> 
> Petition by George 
> Fendler
> 
> To be delivered to Tom Wheeler, FCC Commissioner and President Barack Obama
> Stop the FCC from making small ISPs comply with Title II public utility rules.
> This is not Net Neutrality. It is a power grab to give the big phone/cable 
> providers a strong monopoly and saddle all American Internet customers with a 
> 16.8% tax.
> 
> George Fendler is a WISP from Central Coast Internet in Hollister, 
> California.  Click on the link above to support this petition and use social 
> media to broadcast it to your customers.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Rick Harnish
> Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
> 260-307-4000 cell
> Skype: rick.harnish.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy!

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

+1 Chuck.  Longer pipe. 

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> On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
> 
> How about larger pipes on the mounts?  Like a 2-3"?  Sector Frames?  
> 
> I know you do injection molding for your antennas, have you ever thought 
> about doing NEMA style boxes?
> 
> Just some ideas to throw around...
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:14 PM,  wrote:
>> Thanks, wish I could take total credit.  The quality of the hot dip 
>> galvanize job is a bit out of our hands.  The amount of dross on the pot, 
>> temperature of the day, mix of zinc and other things as well as freshness of 
>> the pickling tank and pickling time all go into the quality of the 
>> galvanization and we farm that out to a local company.  We have been working 
>> on the fit and inspection. 
>>  
>> I appreciate the note, we do try.  And we are always up for making other hot 
>> dipped tower products.  Anyone want us to add to the product line, let me 
>> know and I will see if I can improve on the price or performance on any 
>> other product out in the world.  I prefer to do custom stuff nobody else 
>> does, but I am not above knocking off something if I can offer something in 
>> the way of design improvement or cost reduction. 
>>  
>> From: Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:25 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy!
>>  
>> Props to WB for improving their MTOWs.  Most notably the cleaner galvanizing 
>> and the hardware fitting together perfectly.  Not a huge difference since 
>> these products have already been great, but the quality bonus is noticeable 
>> and appreciated!
>>  
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Don't forget  those damn selfies you guys sent me! Crazy 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> He's doing triathlons now. Judging by his FB, he seems to do one every other 
> day.
> 
> A lot more family time.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "Ken Hohhof" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:08:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
> 
> We regularly see posts from executives at Convergence, including at the time 
> ePMP was introduced, none of whom are Charles.
>  
> I think Charles returned to his home planet, and is now rooming with Elvis.
>  
>  
> From: Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:42 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>  
> Maybe Charles was bought off to ward off a competitor?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015 9:35 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>> That's the exact scenario that I posed and was avoided.
>> 
>> CTI was definitely MemoryLink.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> From: "Jason McKemie" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:22:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>> 
>> It's also a strange "coincidence" that CTI's ptmp offering that could 
>> supposedly sync with Canopy disappeared and shortly thereafter ePMP came on 
>> the scene...
>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
>>>  wrote:
>>> You can put that rumor to rest because it’s not true.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:30 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com; Jason McKemie
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> That's a rumor I have heard as well.
>>> 
>>> On January 21, 2015 2:27:58 PM AKST, Jason McKemie 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's probably because they didn't originally design ePMP, just purchased it 
>>> off of someone else (possibly Memorylink?)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can only see two logical reasons that they didn't do that - either it's 
>>> significantly cheaper to build an antenna in the ePMP form factor, or they 
>>> purposely didn't want them to work too well with Canopy accessories... 
>>> presumably to encourage people to upgrade FSK networks to 450 instead.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Josh Luthman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So you mean epmp guts put into the case they used for FSK, 430 and 450?  
>>> That would make way too much sense, though...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, epmp unit with SM like features (bracket and patch)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> 
>>> President
>>> 
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 
>>> www.aeronetpr.com  
>>> 
>>> @aeronetpr
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:13 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> What do you mean put in "epmp like unit"?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Josh, you are missing the whole point… I know this, but that combo dosnt 
>>> yield good gain… maybe 15-16db total gain at best… also you need special 
>>> adapters for it to work.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We need a direct replacement, remove SM, put Epmp like unit
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> 
>>> President
>>> 
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 
>>> www.aeronetpr.com  
>>> 
>>> @aeronetpr
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:00 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dude you can use the 27rd or KP reflectors with EPMP.  I believe the force 
>>> 110 is better gain though.
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015 5:12 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> no
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> President
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>> @aeronetpr
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/21/15, 3:00 PM, "John Woodfi

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] the future of being an ISP

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

OK FINE!  Let it happen.  Tax every MoFo internet service out there to be fair. 
 Then take all your new tax money and split it evenly to ALL OF US!  Yep not 
going to happen either.  I guess it's time to hire Steve Coran to beat them for 
my share! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> This posted on the facebook page of Athena Broadband of TN today:
>  
> Chairman Powell of the FCC plans to reclassify the Internet as a regulated 
> utility on Feb 26th. The chairman has confirmed in a house hearing today that 
> USF fees WILL apply to Internet service. The current USF collection rate is 
> 16.8% and adjusts automatically depending on how much money the government 
> spends. If the FCC does this everyone's bill is going up by at least 16.8%. 
> Be on the lookout as we may need your help again supporting our cause in DC 
> against these types of actions!
>  
>  
> Looks like i've confirmed most the points of this post:
>  
> *  Unless we REALLY make some noise, we are probably being reclassified as a 
> utility (title II).  Yuk
> *  Folks screaming on the radio tonight (talk radio) - internet bills go up 
> by 16.8%. 
>  
> Comments?  How do we break this to our customers?  When will it take effect?  
> How do we stop it?
> Can we stop it?  How will you answer customer questions about this?
>  
>  
> ___
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> memb...@wispa.org
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Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Well. I already said the alignment function is sh!t and I stand by that.  Just 
turn the damn thing into a Canopy spin off with the same features.  Engineers 
seem to over complicate things.  (Like a woman)

Sorry 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af  wrote:
> 
> I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can 
> no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would 
> get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just 
> loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in 
> the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster 
> than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 
> minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware 
> and "try" to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup 
> config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all 
> day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that 
> already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime 
> i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming 
> out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i 
> got so frustrated with one a few weeks back.
> 
> Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us 
> all
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kurt Fankhauser
> Wavelinc Communications
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> http://www.wavelinc.com
> tel. 419-562-6405
> fax. 419-617-0110

[AFMUG] UBNT equipment - Atlanta

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

I need help.  Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to my 
brother in laws.  They moved to another house in Cobb County.  Have a three 
story home with a Belkin.  Wifi sucks.  Will never be able to work here !  
Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ?

Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*********, Re: Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

All our technology and such a simple act of flooding can bring things to a halt.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Josh Luthman via Af  wrote:
> 
> I can't play a single player game...
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af 
>>  wrote:
>> Yep my brother can't play his new game
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard via Af  wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, at least they took down both, so as to not give an unfair advantage 
>> > to one. :P
>> > 
>> > From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ken Hohhof via Af 
>> > [af@afmug.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:54 PM
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?
>> >
>> > https://gigaom.com/2014/12/25/scrooges-strike-xbox-live-playstation-network-hacked-outage/
>> >
>> >
>> >

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Yep my brother can't play his new game 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard via Af  wrote:
> 
> Well, at least they took down both, so as to not give an unfair advantage to 
> one. :P
> 
> From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ken Hohhof via Af [af@afmug.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:54 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?
> 
> https://gigaom.com/2014/12/25/scrooges-strike-xbox-live-playstation-network-hacked-outage/
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

It's cambium and works well. I understand a lot of guys are now going to it. 
Question though is the new AC gear worth waiting on at this point ??

My complaints are...

Wish it had alignment tone.  We are so use to our easy breezy alignment tool 
with FSK and OFDM.  Going to the led lights was a step back I guess to help 
keep costs down. Who here has tried to align a KP REFLECTOR like that?  That's 
dumb.  Give me my headset back so I can listen to music.  Some of the UI loads 
slow and is missing some nice features we see in the other cambium gear.  Sync 
and throughput is good.  Force 110 dish is small...wish it was bigger to add 
the db loss from taking Rockets down.  

Sorry I like carrier grade but without the price.  So I am crying about it

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> On Dec 21, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af  wrote:
> 
> Just curious   Who out there has had positive or negative results from EPMP.  
> What are the pluses and minuses?   I know price is a plus but other than 
> that??
> 
> Craig

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

I agree with Mike. No balls running this place.  I would say fk you I am doing 
a sequel now just to piss you off and shove it up your a$$

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:
> 
> Agreed. Buncha pussies  and not the good kind.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "Jason McKemie via Af" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:28:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
> 
> On a side note, I can't believe movie theaters as well as Sony capitulated to 
> these dumbasses in regards to "The Interview".  Isn't that tantamount to 
> negotiating with a terrorist?
> 
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Nate Burke via Af  wrote:
>> I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound 
>> like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it).  
>> The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi 
>> connection in china somewhere.  How were they able to transfer that much 
>> data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped?  Did the 
>> hotel have a blazing fast network?  Something with getting that amount of 
>> data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

The proxy was a beautiful thing.  I told the engineers not to take it away and 
leave 169.254.1.1 for even the ePmP 

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> On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov via Af  wrote:
> 
> One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal network 
> between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so 
> smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having the right IP 
> address   set in the SM before you can manage it (even when connecting 
> from the AP).
> We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major 
> headache..  We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so with 
> ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in the 
> closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change 
> IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat.
> 
> Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope it 
> gets properly implemented.
> 
> Vlad
> 
>> On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
>> How are you doing it with Ubnt?  Can't the same be done with epmp?
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af"  wrote:
>>> For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access to a 
>>> minimally configured CPE) is a must have.  The installers do NOT have to 
>>> get out a computer or otherwise access the device.  Power it up, point it 
>>> at the tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality check 
>>> and go.   Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely.  
>>> 
>>> This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to the CPE 
>>> but it's not as clean as Canopy.   
>>> 
>>> No way at all that I know of with ePMP.
>>> 
>>> Mark  
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af  wrote:
 
 Use it all the time.  Between it and installer color code field techs 
 can't FUBAR an install.  When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago 
 that made the process super safe.
 
 One of the "best features" of the canopy platform in my book.  It annoys 
 me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like an 
 IP or vlan.
 
> On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af"  wrote:
> Me too.
> 
> I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have 
> finger to count on.
> 
> --
> bp
> 
> 
> On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
>> No, rather just have it.
>> 
>>> On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
>>> Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
 On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af"  wrote:
 I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a 
 show-stopper to not have it.
 
 This brings me to a new post...
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 From: "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" 
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
 Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
 
 OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you 
 guys 
 had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. But this is 
 not 
 the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM. 
 Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no.
 
 I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to 
 make this work. Please do it.
> 
> 
> 
>   
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. 
> www.avast.com
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed Links / Air fiber - 4 Sale

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Ok guys-  this is all sold now so thanks for checking! I'll repost if something 
changes 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy via Af  wrote:
> 
> Dish size on the Trangos?  Or are these just the radios? 
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Sam Lambie via Af  wrote:
>> How the hell do we make an offer offlist when we can't see your real email 
>> address?
>> 
>> I am scl at taosnet.com hit me up please.
>> 
>> Sam
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
>>> via Af  wrote:
>>> Hey guys-
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We have the following not in use and taking up shelf or tower space. Make 
>>> offer off list if interested.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 1.Used – UBNT Air fiber 24Ghz link Complete
>>> 
>>> 2.Trango AD11G-2-S2  (2 full complete links)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Note:  The Trango’s have never been used, but have been on the towers 
>>> exposed to the weather.
>>> 
>>> The Air fiber actually did everything we needed so we had opted not to use 
>>> the Trango’s. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Tyson Burris, President 
>>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>>>   
>>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
>>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
>>> Online: www.surfici.net
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What can ICI do for you?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
>>> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
>>>   
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>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> -- 
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>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Scientists pick up strange signals that may point to dark matter’s existence | General News

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

It's red matter according to Star Trek

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> On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af  wrote:
> 
> SYN
> 
> <50 years pass>
> 
> ACK
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af  wrote:
>> SPACE CONTROL TO EARTH 
>> http://www.betawired.com/scientists-pick-up-strange-signals-that-may-point-to-dark-matters-existence/1422255/
>> 
>> Jaime Solorza
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 13.2 and PTP 230's

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Thanks,

Cambium sent us the beta to test.  It's up and running on all 230s in our 
network. We are watching for this issue to redevelop.  Right now it seems 
stable ... Give us 24 hrs 

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> On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:11 PM, Adam Bates  wrote:
> 
> Roll back to 13.1.3 (Somewhat more stable).  Apparently they didn’t fix the 
> watchdog reset on the 230 models as well as created new problems on 13.2.  
> They targeted the 13.2 upgrade for the PMP450.  Have you been seeing the 
> master side reboot?  Are you using a sync device on your master?  If so try 
> setting it to generate sync.  We have seen this fix the session/re-reg 
> problems also.
>  
> 13.3 is supposed to fix this issue.
>  
> Email from Cambium Support:
>  
> Just to summarize our phone call, we're lookign at the already reported 
> issue, that affects PTP230/450. At this time, there's only a PTP450 beta 
> version, which addresses this issue available. Due to public holidays, i 
> cannot check the availability of the PTP230 beta version with our development 
> team, however, i expect to have this information on Monday 12/1. I will keep 
> you informed.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> With best regards
> Pavel Onz
> Level 2 Engineering
>  
> Haven’t received any additional updates since 11/28.
>  
> Adam Bates
> FreedomNet Solutions
> aba...@freedomnet.com
>  
>  
> From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
> Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:21 AM
> To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
> Subject: [WISPA Members] Canopy 13.2 and PTP 230's
>  
> Hey guys,
>  
> I loaded the 13.2 on the PTP 230’s last week.  We have been seeing the count 
> and Reg count increment since, which can cause drops. 
> Did I miss something with this firmware?  
>  
> Tyson Burris, President 
> Internet Communications Inc. 
> 739 Commerce Dr. 
> Franklin, IN 46131 
>   
> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
> Online: www.surfici.net
>  
> 
> What can ICI do for you?
> 
> Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
>   
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Yes in training it was confirmed that the ePmP can get power and sync through 
CMM 3&4 but the 3 may be tricky to workaround. 

Also you can gps time your PTP link but it wasn't recommend.  You should use 
the Mac level for your ptp 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Paul McCall via Af  wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
>  
> It looks like you are saying that the connectorized radios withouth sync CAN 
> indeed get sync from external source, CMM3, CMM4, sync injector.
>  
> I wasn’t aware that was the case
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
> via Af
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 12:36 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force
>  
> The 110 PTP unit has sync on board...disabled...expect that's to keep us from 
> buying that unit and swapping the radios for a connectorized unit without 
> sync.  :-)
>  
> I expect that, like the connectorized radio without sync, that you can take 
> sync from a different source, like a CMM4.
>  
> 
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
> 
> On Nov 22, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Paul McCall via Af  wrote:
> 
> For Cambium we have a very remote tower that feeds several other towers.  
> Everything is OSPF but logically...
> 
> Tower R (the main remote tower - a 190 ft. Rohn 25G with several anti-twist 
> devices) is "fed" by...
>Tower A - 26 miles away - UBNT 3.65ghz Rocket M5 AND a Mikrotik RB912 5 Ghz
>This commercial tower (Tower A) has over 300Mbit of usable bandwidth 
> and feeds about 75 to 85 Mbit to Tower A
>Tower B - 9 miles away - UBNT 5ghz Rocket M5
>This tower (Tower B) is a 90 ft. Rohn 25G
> 
> Tower R then feeds...
>Tower C - 12 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 50 Mbit of usable 
> bandwidth.  (Rohn 25G 120 ft.)
>Tower D - 15 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 40 Mbit of usable 
> bandwidth.  (Rohn 25G 120 ft.)
>Tower E - 17 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 40 Mbit of usable 
> bandwidth.  (Rohn 25G 120 ft.)
>Tower F - 14 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 40 Mbit of usable 
> bandwidth.  (Rohn 25G 120 ft.)
> 
> To get all this to work without Sync was quite a frequency juggling act.  
> There are other towers in the area and towers C, D, E, F connect (chain) to 
> each other on the "back side" and we use a couple 3.65Ghz UBNT radios on the 
> backside links.
> 
> The challenge...
> 
> First of all, I need more BW to each tower, but mostly Tower C.  And, I need 
> better consistency... at times the links do not perform as I expect and then 
> I get customer complaints etc. I hate that.  
> 
> So, what would be the best solution that Cambium can recommend other than a 
> ton of licensed links?  Obviously, the gear I am using now is inexpensive.
> 
> The PTP110 solution ... 2ms unsyncedcan it sync, now or tomorrow?   
> Latency with sync?
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:47 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Please allow me to clarify.
>  
> The Force 110 uses the Connectorized UnSync'd unit with the two 10/100 FE 
> ports.
>  
> The Force 110 PTP uses the Connectorized GPS Sync'd unit with the
> single GigE port that supports 802.3af PoE in addition to proprietary PoE. 
> GPS capabilities will be disabled (but the radio can still use the on board 
> GPS chip to track satellites and provide coordinates).
>  
> The 2ms latency is achieved purely through software changes in Release 2.4 
> and will apply to both products.
> 
> Reading this spec sheet.
> 
> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/files/PRODUCTS/ePMP/FORCE/Force%20110%20PTP_Oct2014.pdf
> 
> 
> LATENCY (nominal, one way) < 2 ms (PTP Mode), 6 ms (Flexible Frame
> Mode) , 17 ms (GPS Sync Mode)

Re: [AFMUG] How common are crc errors on pmp100

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Craig that ratio is fine.  

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> On Nov 20, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Craig Schmaderer via Af  wrote:
> 
> This is a radio that has been up for 93 days, it is very heavy on traffic, 
> would you say there is an issue with this radio?   It is on a clean tower 
> that only I am on.  There are 4 other canopy radios on this tower receiving 
> sync from a CTM1.  All radios are just CAT5e cable non shielded, length is 
> about 180’ tops.  Also there is a PTP800 with lmr 400 ran along with it, I 
> never noticed this before, all other radios are showing about the same number 
> of CRC errors, is this expectable?  
>  
>  
> Ethernet Link Detected :
> 1
> Ethernet Link Lost :
> 0
> Undersized Toss Count :
> 0
> inoctets Count :
> 4054728244
> inucastpkts Count :
> 1954469296
> Innucastpkts Count :
> 56834740
> indiscards Count :
> 0
> inerrors Count :
> 231695
> inunknownprotos Count :
> 0
> outoctets Count :
> 3150773755
> outucastpktsCount :
> 1289988260
> outnucastpkts Count :
> 1597027
> outdiscards Count :
> 0
> outerrors Count :
> 0
> RxBabErr :
> 0
> TxHbErr :
> 0
> EthBusErr :
> 0
> CRCError :
> 231601
> RcvFifoNoBuf :
> 94
> RxOverrun :
> 0
> LateCollision :
> 0
> RetransLimitExp :
> 0
> TxUnderrun :
> 0
> CarSenseLost :
> 0
> No Carrier :
> 0
>  
> Craig R. Schmaderer
> CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
> Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
> Direct: 402-372-1052
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Working with Crown Castle vs. American Tower

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

The rep that works or worked at Crown Castle in Indianapolis used to work for 
another company I did IT work for.  He spent his days infectimg his business 
laptop with porn.  

He needed a 'lazy' job that he could overcharge customers and get kick backs 
forso he joined Crown.  

Many of us can install our equipment better then the drugged up contractors 
that Crown uses.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af  wrote:
> 
> No.  I have not at all.  In fact, my most recent increase has us over $6600 
> for 4 towers that barely turn $7k in revenue.  I'm trying to get land leases 
> with the property owners for a new tower or in a near location right now.
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af  wrote:
>> Amen to crown castle  we are doing a new site and we wanted to use crown 
>> instead of building our own site. But it's been a month and  no contact from 
>> them. So we are laying conduit next week for fiber 
>> 
>> Cc can kiss my A$$ too
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:
>>> 
>>> CC can go suck a bag of dicks. AT is much easier to work with. Too many 
>>> stories of CC screwing people over.
>>> 
>>> Obviously better yet if you can find a regional or local tower company.
>>> 
>>> http://youtu.be/OT7xc_XqYO8
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:20:15 AM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Working with Crown Castle vs. American Tower
>>> 
>>> We have 3 Crown Castle towers that we have had since 2003.  Started around 
>>> $ 500 per month for 4 sectors and 2 BHs back then.  Rent escalations plus 
>>> now having 6 sectors on it now, have brought the rent up to around $ 
>>> 1000/month.  We are exploring our other options for new towers.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Two of the ideal locations are Crown Castle sites and I called them.  My CC 
>>> rep sent me all the standard fee sheets - $ 5K and up etc. and high rents.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Has anyone got any precedence for pricing with CC where they have become 
>>> competitive to someone like American Tower and their 4WISP program?  A.T. 
>>> starts at $ 500 for 2 3ft BHs and 4 Sectors.  A premium tower, as they call 
>>> it, can have a $ 100 to $ 150 uptick, but that still seems reasonable.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>> 
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>> 
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>> 
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>> 
>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>> 
>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>> 
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>> 
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>> 
> 

[AFMUG] UBNT 24 Bounce

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Guys,  

Seeing a 24ghz bouncing and throwing low bandwidth numbers.  Session and 
throughput graphs look great when up. Cable pairs are like 26-29 snr.  

Ericsson said an LTE sector started acting up.  Clearly different RF but seems 
odd.  

New terminations and power supplies.  No luck.  Bypass surge protection same 
result  

Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

For WISPs, you need to focus on the OSHA content related to construction. I 
require OHSA 10, at a minimum,  for all employees now, including CPR CERT.  
Everyone in our industry should be doing a pre climb safety meeting as well but 
I have yet to see ANYONE do it.

I'm not an expert here at all but that's what what I was taught from the 
cellular side. 





Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af  wrote:
> 
> We climb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked.
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
> 
>> On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
>> Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP.
>>  
>> From: Josh Reynolds via Af
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:29 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com ; WISPA General List
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan   for WISPs
>>  
>> Has anybody had one of these done before? Do you know any resources specific 
>> to our industry that could help with this?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -- 
>> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Canopy stuff...

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

What did you put in place of this equipment ?

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> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af  wrote:
> 
> Have for sale:
> 
> qty 25 - 2400SM P10 used - $75/each
> qty 3 -- 430AP 5.4ghz DES version $1000/each 
> qty 3 -- 90 degree moto sectors, (2 older bigger ones, 1 newer smaller one) 
> $150/each 
> qty 30 -- 430SM 5.4ghz 10mbps DES version $150/each 
> 
> reply to k...@wavelinc.com
> 
> Kurt Fankhauser
> Wavelinc Communications
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> http://www.wavelinc.com
> tel. 419-562-6405
> fax. 419-617-0110

Re: [AFMUG] Employee damaging equipment

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

He said it was his brother right ?  Who cares!  Your brother is your blood.  
Sh!t happens

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af  wrote:
> 
> Federal labor law says you can't hold employees financial responsible for 
> broken/lost tools. (from my understanding)
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
> 
>> On 10/23/2014 04:22 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote:
>> How do you guys handle it when an employee damages or loses equipment?
>> 
>> This is my baby brother's first job. He tied the ladder and it fell out of 
>> the truck, no where to be found. 
>> 
>> He said he's going to either get me one or pay me back, just curious how 
>> everyone else handles this.
>> 
>> I've never run into it yet.
>> �
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

They should just buy us all up.  Think of the home security potential.  I see 
great reward in that market but have no clue how to do it right !

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Travis Johnson via Af  wrote:
> 
> What's more amazing is the valuation/sale they just received about a year 
> ago... the founder sold 50% of the company for $2bn. 
> 
> $360 million a year in revenue, even at 50% profit margin, is $180 million 
> profit. It will take 11 years to make that money back, but they only own 
> 50%... so it would take 22 years to make that money back. They must see huge 
> potential with the company and future projects.
> 
> Travis
> 
>> On 10/23/2014 10:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>> Vivint claims an installed base of 800,000 and $30 million in monthly 
>> revenue (http://www.vivint.com/company/about-us).  That's not chump change.
>> 
>> It would appear that their fixed wireless internet product is a small part 
>> of their overall enterprise.
>> bp
>> 
>>> On 10/23/2014 8:55 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
>>> Is it kind of a Trojan Horse thing?  Get in the door selling Internet, then 
>>> sell them home security and that’s where they make the real money?
>>>  
>>> BTW, I’m not knocking that approach.  I think we underestimate the power of 
>>> DISH, Direct, VZ/AT&T Wireless, they are already inside the castle walls 
>>> and upselling the customer to increase their ARPU.  As you drive around 
>>> your coverage area, imagine you had the email address and phone number of 
>>> every target customer, and were already billing them monthly, and could 
>>> stick flyers in the bills, and send texts to their phones, and to the 
>>> customer your service was just another line item in that bundle.  Of course 
>>> they may also hate you, but you have to rise to a pretty high hate level 
>>> for people to cancel their bundle.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Travis Johnson via Af
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:09 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless
>>>  
>>> 20,000 - 30,000 subs in a year and half is great... but they have probably 
>>> $20mm into it, and they are dumping more money (millions) into it as 
>>> well it's a "play" thing for them. Kind of like Google's "fiber across 
>>> the ocean" project... something cool, but not really your core business.
>>> 
>>> Travis
>>> 
 On 10/23/2014 8:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
 Yeah, but they got that far...  in a year? Year and a half?
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 From: "Travis Johnson via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:30:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless
 
 Well, they only have about 150,000 more subs to go... :)
 
 Travis
 
 On 10/23/2014 6:35 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
 *nods* They've been doing this for over a year. Last year at WISPAPALOOZA 
 they had like 30 people there. Some expect them to overtake JAB as the 
 largest WISP in the states.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 From: "TJ Trout via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:43:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless
 
 Where have you been? Lol search the list :]
> On Oct 22, 2014 8:39 PM, "Jaime Solorza via Af"  wrote:
> Spoke to young guys from Vivint
> Today at lunch and they are beta testing 50 x 50 mbps wireless using a 
> fiber fed hub and then cover a neighborhood.  Testing here and Utah 
> somewhere.  They work for automation branch and didnt know particulars.   
> Anyone hear about this?
> Jaime Solorza
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Sounds right.  They bought a hardware company and use their own branded 
equipment on the wireless side. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af  wrote:
> 
> Spoke to young guys from Vivint
> Today at lunch and they are beta testing 50 x 50 mbps wireless using a fiber 
> fed hub and then cover a neighborhood.  Testing here and Utah somewhere.  
> They work for automation branch and didnt know particulars.   Anyone hear 
> about this?
> Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa pipe dream?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Looks like a product with great potentialnext year...

With that said, it would appear every hardware company in our industry seems to 
make promises they can't make good on.  I guess this has become acceptable for 
some reason. 

It's very disappointing behavior.  I think these engineers need to spend a week 
in harsh weather on towers before they 'truely' get it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:59 AM, TJ Trout via Af  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking about Mimosa, and I can't think of anything else they could 
> promise that we would want, except maybe Golden Unicorns for Steve, seems 
> like their promises are so far fetched that it might all be smoke and 
> mirrors? Any thoughts?

Re: [AFMUG] WTF apex 9 cable defects

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

We dropped Apex a couple years ago. IMHO it's not good outdoor cable.  Switched 
to shielded Shireen and haven't looked back.  In fact, knocking on wood now, we 
think the Shireen has protected us from ESD.  We have not seen an AP OR SM 
damaged if the site has Shireen installed.  We did see numerous issues with 
Apex.  Thank you to the WISP members on the list who recommended it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:07 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I'm going to get some of the Shireen DC-1021 stuff to try. The 
> Belden/Best-Tronics is good cable, but I hate that it doesn't have a rip 
> cord. The Shireen stuff looks almost the same.. with a rip cord.
> 
>> On 10/7/2014 11:32 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
>> You can use the wooden reels as end tables or foot rests when they’re empty.
>>  
>> From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:19 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTF apex 9 cable defects
>>  
>> Cheapest I seen on that 1300a is $300/roll. Almost seems worth it after 
>> seeing this crap today...
>>  
>> 
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> Wavelinc Communications
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>  
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af  wrote:
>>> Never seen a defect with Belden 1300A/7919A or the Best-Tronics clone of 
>>> it.  It ain’t cheap though.
>>>  
>>> From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:32 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] WTF apex 9 cable defects
>>>  
>>> Been using APEX 9 cable for 3 years with no problems until the last year. 
>>> Earlier this year I unrolled some off a spool and the outer jacket was 
>>> missing in a spot, CTI sent me a new box and wanted the old one back, today 
>>> found another box with a HUGE section of outerjacket missing, obvious 
>>> manufacturing defect because the footage marking was printed on the foil 
>>> shield! Opened another box from the same pallet and immediately found 
>>> another defect on that roll that wasn't even off the spool yet.
>>>  
>>> I need to find another brand of cable, I CAN NOT be having these poor 
>>> quality control issues showing up on towers which is where this cable was   
>>>   being installed today
>>> 
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> Wavelinc Communications
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>> fax. 419-617-0110
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Just a few here.  I preach NETGEAR and most customers have converted. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Darren Shea via Af  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone else getting inundated with a flood of customers who can't connect 
> to the internet through their Belkin routers this
> morning?
>   
> What's the deal with that?,
>   Darren
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fails to deliver

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

LOL! Love it and so true

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Gino Villarini via Af  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com   
> @aeronetpr
> 
> 
> 
> From: "af@afmug.com" 
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 at 11:28 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa fails to deliver
> 
> They are still testing and tweaking firmware. They are not vaporware and are 
> actively updating the Beta community. I can't say much more yet but that they 
> are continually updating those of us in the Beta group and are working on 
> tweaking the software to be as reliable as possible before releasing the 
> product. Give them 1-2 more months and we should see good things.
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Stefan Englhardt via Af  wrote:
>> Even the test links our Distributor should have gotten did not arrive.
>> 
>> So seems like another marketing driven company.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Darin Steffl
> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
>  Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Don't believe any of that bs.  
You can destroy Russia by dropping oil to $50 barrel.

September and October funds sell off and take new positions for the upcoming 
year. Happens every year at the same time and people start screaming!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Randy Cosby via Af  wrote:
> 
> I've heard the downward pressure is due to the US / Russia spat and trade 
> restrictions.
> 
>> On 10/3/2014 2:17 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
>> Wow... looks like UBNT is struggling on the market the last two weeks. Down 
>> to $35 today.  Glad I sold at $48 a few weeks ago. :) 
>> 
>> Who posted it would be at $75 by year's end? Hope they weren't really 
>> counting on that... 
>> 
>> Travis
> 
> -- 
> 
>  Randy Cosby
> InfoWest, Inc
> 435-674-0165 x 2010
> infowest.com
> 
> This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc 
> and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may 
> contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information.  
> 
> Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is 
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> contact rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy 
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Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Chuck, 

Are you doing any 8-10 gauge runs exceeding 500' ?

I can't seem to find what I need

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af  wrote:
> 
> We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard 
> has been used, I don't think we've lost a site yet.
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Matt via Af  wrote:
>> This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years.
>> 
>> http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html
>> 
>> Outdoor, UV resistant, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af  wrote:
>> > Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower
>> >
>> > 30-40w total power
>> >
>> > Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable?
>> >
>> > We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization purposes...
>> >
>> > Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!!
>> >
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

$700-1k

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> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Darin Steffl via Af  wrote:
> 
> Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC 
> 
>> On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Matt via Af  wrote:
>> What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Darin Steffl
> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
>  Like us on Facebook
> 

Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

Had you bought two years ago...along with Carl you would just about doubled 
your money.  

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> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Gino Villarini via Af  wrote:
> 
> Apple today without split would be in the $700 range
> 
> Sent from my Motorola Startac... 
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:38 PM, "Ken Hohhof via Af"  wrote:
> 
>> On the Yahoo Finance chart, go to the Events drop-down menu, and put a 
>> checkmark next to Splits.  Hover over the split marker to get the details.
>>  
>> From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 4:24 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
>>  
>>  
>> Keep in mind apple has actually splitit was trading what, $400+ a few 
>> months ago?
>> I wish charts had some way of showing that but based on what i've been able 
>> to see, they never do.
>> All the sources of information (tv, media, charts) just go like it never 
>> happened
>>  
>> You can google split information.
>>  
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Ken Hohhof via Af
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
>>  
>> Well, Travis says get in and out in a day.  You say 20-50 years.  That 
>> pretty much covers any strategy you want to pick.  And some people are 
>> putting all their money in Bitcoin.
>>  
>> From: Bruce Robertson via Af
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:17 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
>>  
>> I would call two years very short term because my investing horizon is 20+ 
>> years.   And I'm already (mostly) retired.  (Consulting gigs keep cropping 
>> up...)  If I were still in my 20s, my horizon would be 50 years.
>> 
>>> On 9/20/2014 1:03 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
>>> Take a look at this:
>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AAPL+Interactive#symbol=AAPL;range=5y
>>>  
>>> and now imagine you are the advisor who put me (and no doubt other clients) 
>>> into AAPL in September 2012.  You can either call up those clients and say 
>>> good news, after 2 years of staring at a loss, you can finally take a nice 
>>> profit and invest in something else.  Or you can say buy another ticket and 
>>> take another roller coaster ride.
>>>  
>>> Besides, after years of almost getting negative interest on fixed income 
>>> (in Europe they actually pay banks to park money), there are finally some 
>>> options in stocks that pay dividends and even bond funds that are 
>>> worthwhile putting 25 or 30% of your money  in, making sure they are short 
>>> maturity because their value will go down once the Fed starts raising 
>>> interest rates.
>>>  
>>> But as far as ignoring short term stock market swings, I’m not sure I’d 
>>> call 2 years short term.  And if you look at the chart, AAPL looks exactly 
>>> like it did 2 years ago.  Sure, it could go up.  But let’s face it, what 
>>> did they announce.  A couple phablets which are really just catching up to 
>>> competition, and a smartwatch for next year.  Samsung is already mocking 
>>> the iPhone 6+ in their Galaxy Note 4 ads, and how sure are you that a $349 
>>> smartwatch will be the next must-have gadget?  And iPad sales have slowed 
>>> because once people have one, they don’t trade up to the next version like 
>>> they do phones, and a lot of them are WiFi only and not tied to a carrier 2 
>>> year cycle.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Bruce Robertson via Af
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:46 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
>>>  
>>> I only agree with your investment advisor if you're within 2-5 years of 
>>> retirement and you will be relying on those assets to live on.  Otherwise, 
>>> he/she is steering you wrong.  IMO, of course.  Your example of AAPL 
>>> illustrates exactly why.  You need to totally ignore short term stock 
>>> market swings, and keep some cash on hand for buying when plunges like 2008 
>>> happen.  BTW this takes nerves of steel.
>>> 
 On 09/20/2014 12:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
 FWIW, my investment advisor got me out of AAPL, and advises decreasing 
 stocks at this point especially those that don’t pay dividends and moving 
 a higher percentage into bonds.  Of course risk tolerance varies with age 
 (how many years you have left to recover from a big loss).  But he 
 evidently feels stocks have run up to the point where they are getting 
 risky.
  
 Regarding AAPL, I had quite a paper loss at one time, finally recovered 
 and made a nice profit, but it looked pretty grim for awhile.  The myth 
 was it would only go one way - up.  Problem with Apple is they always have 
 to hit it out of the park, merely having a good quarter is a 
 disappointment.  It must be like being a magician, but if you pulled a 
 rabbit out of your hat last night, tonight you need to pul

Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af]

That was a bad idea.  I say Apple hits 115-120 before year end.  On a 100k 
margin you could earn 14-19k return now until year end.  



Sept.  Is a portfolio adjustment month so it naturally is a sell side month. 


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> On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, my investment advisor got me out of AAPL, and advises decreasing stocks 
> at this point especially those that don’t pay dividends and moving a  higher 
> percentage into bonds.  Of course risk tolerance varies with age (how many 
> years you have left to recover from a big loss).  But he evidently feels 
> stocks have run up to the point where they are getting risky.
>  
> Regarding AAPL, I had quite a paper loss at one time, finally recovered and 
> made a nice profit, but it looked pretty grim for awhile.  The myth was it 
> would only go one way - up.  Problem with Apple is they always have to hit it 
> out of the park, merely having a good quarter is a disappointment.  It must 
> be like being a magician, but if you pulled a rabbit out of your hat last 
> night, tonight you need to pull a lion out of the hat, and tomorrow a 
> rhinoceros.  Wait, I’m thinking of Rocky and Bullwinkle.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRW7pITY5Cg
> I could swear there was one where he pulled Rocky out of the hat.
>  
>  
> From: Mike Hammett via Af
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
>  
> NetFlix and FaceBook haven't even existed "long term".
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> From: "CBB - Jay Fuller via Af" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 2:13:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
> 
> --- [ "CBB - Jay Fuller"  wrote ]:
> ---
>  
> Long term the stocks I'm interested in right now are Apple, Netflix, and 
> Facebook.  They all have performed well long term.
> I do not currently have any Netflix but it's also had a bit of a rocky road.  
> Look at its one year chart.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Travis Johnson via Af
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
>  
> --- [ Travis Johnson  wrote ]:
> ---
> The stock market is not a good "long term" investment, in my opinion 
> unless you go into a fund like T. Rowe Price Blue Chip (which has returned me 
> 30% so far this year). A single stock is just too risky.
> 
> The play is the one day in and out game... like this Alibaba stock... 
> 
> Travis
> 
> On 9/19/2014 11:39 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
> --- [ Bill Prince mailto:part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com wrote ]:
> ---
> 
> 
> Wait until the euphoria wears off.  I'll bet it hits $60 before the end of 
> the year.
> 
> bp
> On 9/19/2014 9:32 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
>  
> wheit really tanked there.   below $91
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
>  
>  
> interesting...i'm listening. lol.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Travis Johnson via Af
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
>  
> I disagree... I think today will be an amazing ride... people will make a TON 
> of money if their timing is right.
> 
> Travis
> 
> On 9/19/2014 9:05 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
> I would not touch that offering with a 10 foot pole.  I see nothing but 
> sorrow.  Too much hype.  Too much unknown.
> 
> bp
> On 9/19/2014 6:41 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
>  
> Anyone trying to get in on Alibaba's IPO?
> Thoughts?
> Comments?
> Complaints?
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>