Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[David]

We like these for rack space management purposes.
http://www.duracomm.com/product/dp-20atc-2jc-48/



On 04/28/2016 11:55 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


Oops

On Apr 28, 2016 9:31 AM, "Brian Sullivan" > wrote:


Like.  How much to just build three for us?

On 4/28/2016 7:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David > wrote:

Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)


On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

This looks nice.  Good job. What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen
> wrote:

I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by
rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?


[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[David]

No I have cmm4 w managed switch w a fiber port which allows for a hybrid 
fiber cable to be ran to 350' plus


All the others are Rackmount. We either have our own buildings or 
cabinets on a pad at the tower



On 04/28/2016 07:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David > wrote:


Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)


On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen
> wrote:

I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Daniel Gerlach]

good work !

2016-04-29 5:14 GMT+02:00 Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>:
> He sees me as redeemed! :)
>
> Thanks,
> `S
>
> ---
> Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.
>
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 16:27, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You must be on good terms with God...14:years. wow
>
> On Apr 28, 2016 2:49 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" <sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jamie, we didn’t fuse/breaker the inside of the box because we have
>> that at the base with the rectifier.  We live in CA where the weather is
>> fairly predictable and don’t suffer from lightening.  In 14 years we’ve
>> never had a single device fried from something that fuse/breaker would have
>> prevented.  I didn’t want to risk having something that needed to be reset
>> or replaced that was tower mounted, but only at the base.
>>
>>
>>
>> `S
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:55 AM
>> To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?
>>
>>
>>
>> Oops
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2016 9:31 AM, "Brian Sullivan" <installe...@foxvalley.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Like.  How much to just build three for us?
>>
>> On 4/28/2016 7:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)
>>
>> On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>
>> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I built a CMM for 2016!
>>
>> Highlights:
>>
>> * Gigabit everything
>>
>> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>>
>> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>>
>> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>>
>> * Temperature monitoring
>>
>> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>>
>> * Fan seizure notification
>>
>> * LED light strip controlled by door
>>
>> * Door alarm trigger
>>
>> * Hoist pull loop
>>
>> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>>
>> * 36lbs
>>
>> * Price circa $2100
>>
>> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
>> Parts list here:
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>>
>> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>>
>> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

He sees me as redeemed! :)

Thanks,
`S

---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

On Apr 28, 2016, at 16:27, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You must be on good terms with God...14:years. wow

On Apr 28, 2016 2:49 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
Thanks Jamie, we didn't fuse/breaker the inside of the box because we have that 
at the base with the rectifier.  We live in CA where the weather is fairly 
predictable and don't suffer from lightening.  In 14 years we've never had a 
single device fried from something that fuse/breaker would have prevented.  I 
didn't want to risk having something that needed to be reset or replaced that 
was tower mounted, but only at the base.

`S

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:55 AM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?


Oops
On Apr 28, 2016 9:31 AM, "Brian Sullivan" 
<installe...@foxvalley.net<mailto:installe...@foxvalley.net>> wrote:
Like.  How much to just build three for us?
On 4/28/2016 7:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David 
<dmilho...@wletc.com<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)

On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Jaime Solorza]

You must be on good terms with God...14:years. wow
On Apr 28, 2016 2:49 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" <sc...@velociter.net> wrote:

> Thanks Jamie, we didn’t fuse/breaker the inside of the box because we have
> that at the base with the rectifier.  We live in CA where the weather is
> fairly predictable and don’t suffer from lightening.  In 14 years we’ve
> never had a single device fried from something that fuse/breaker would have
> prevented.  I didn’t want to risk having something that needed to be reset
> or replaced that was tower mounted, but only at the base.
>
>
>
> `S
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:55 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?
>
>
>
> Oops
>
> On Apr 28, 2016 9:31 AM, "Brian Sullivan" <installe...@foxvalley.net>
> wrote:
>
> Like.  How much to just build three for us?
>
> On 4/28/2016 7:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>
> Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)
>
> On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
> wrote:
>
> I built a CMM for 2016!
>
> Highlights:
>
> * Gigabit everything
>
> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>
> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>
> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>
> * Temperature monitoring
>
> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>
> * Fan seizure notification
>
> * LED light strip controlled by door
>
> * Door alarm trigger
>
> * Hoist pull loop
>
> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>
> * 36lbs
>
> * Price circa $2100
>
> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
> Parts list here:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>
> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>
> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

I ordered the ICT rectifier from Matthew Bavosa at Tessco

Matthew Bavosa
TESSCO Technologies Inc.
Public Network Organizations
410-229-1182  Tel
410-527-0005 Fax
bavo...@tessco.com
Sales Support: (800) 472-7373

Pricing was about $770 for the ICT600-24SBC and $1150 for the ICT1200-24SBC.  
Just curious, why are people always so shy to share pricing on-list?  Seems 
like it would be beneficial for others but obviously I must be missing 
something and committing a faux pas.

`S

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are running 
DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern.  I realize the 
WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more 
efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V).  If you already have 4 
batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier?

Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT?  Off-list is fine if 
you would like.

Thanks,

Josh

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
Thanks!  The base of the tower is quite simple:

Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk
ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available) http://goo.gl/GkOBBW
12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to make 24v) 
http://goo.gl/rCXciW
3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking 
http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP
MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ
6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors 
http://goo.gl/8x5fcg

The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total height.  
There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U battery trays.  
The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to everything, with the 
exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for battery management and 
monitoring.

Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP transceivers 
linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP compatibility.  
So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber goes directly into 
the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from enclosure).  The CCR1016 
then has all the backhauls directly connected via fiber, and the APs are 
grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8 APs there’s a full gig to 
the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if you added 6 SyncInjectors 
total).  The enclosures are standardized so we are building to have hot spares 
on standby ready to go in the event of a catastrophic failure.

I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC Simplex to 
Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm

`S


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Oh right, I didn’t want separate timing cables, that’s what it was.  A 12 port 
Gigabit SyncInjector would be awesome though!

`S

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

They only do timing, not ethernet.  You run dedicated timing cables from the AP 
to the SyncBox, and then Cat5 from the AP to the Netonix switch for power+data.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
I considered those but they're not gigabit, correct?

Thanks,
`S

---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:39, Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Oh, yeah, that was you!  That makes sense.  We are looking at using SyncBox 
12's at the top just for timing FSK (and 450 too I guess).  This allows us to 
run 48V up the tower which we use to power WS-12-250-DC's.  The FSK/450 gets 
timing port sync from the SyncBox and 24V power from the WS-12-250-DC.  No need 
for separate SyncInjectors or DC-DC converters in this scenario.  Just an idea.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
I'm the guy who just smoked a ring of FSK APs by running 48v to them! :)  I 
wanted to use 48v for the reasons you just stated but because much of the 
Cambium equipment is only 24v this meant having a DC DC converter in the 
enclosure which is another point of failure, expensive, and impractical to step 
down large wattages.  I understand the same point of failure is in the WS but 
it's integrated and hidden so I pretend it's not there. :)

With the 12awg SOOW we use even on a 600' run there is less than 3% voltage 
drop. The WS can take as little as 9VDC. The rectifier can easily be tuned up 
to 27v to offset any drop. Also we gut the AC DC supplies in the 1016 Mikrotik 
and run it direct DC since it takes 24vdc.  Everything is fully DC, finally!

I'll reply with ICT price when I'm back in the office.
Thanks,
'S

Sent mobile!

On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:15, Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are running 
DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern.  I realize the 
WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more 
efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V).  If you already have 4 
batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier?

Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT?  Off-list is fine if 
you would like.

Thanks,

Josh

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
Thanks!  The base of the tower is quite simple:

Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk
ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available) http://goo.gl/GkOBBW
12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to make 24v) 
http://goo.gl/rCXciW
3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking 
http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP
MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ
6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors 
http://goo.gl/8x5fcg

The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total height.  
There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U battery trays.  
The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to everything, with the 
exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for battery management and 
monitoring.

Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP transceivers 
linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP compatibility.  
So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber goes directly into 
the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from enclosure).  The CCR1016 
then has all the backhauls directly connected via fiber, and the APs are 
grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8 APs there’s a full gig to 
the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if you added 6 SyncInjectors 
total).  The enclosures are standardized so we are building to have hot spares 
on standby ready to go in the event of a catastrophic failure.

I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC Simplex to 
Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm

`S


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 201

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

I didn't use a condensate drain besides two small weep holes.  I'll give some 
consideration to reinforcing the strut, tower guys said the same thing.

`S

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

Put a neoprene washer under the bolt, and a bead of silicone behind the 
strut.� Even if it someday down the road it started weeping during the rain 
it would just fall out through your condensate drain.

.I didn't read your parts list though.� If you don't have a condensate 
drain you should think about that.

On 4/28/2016 12:40 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:

Yeah I feel the same. The two are going into reinforced embedded threads- 
adding more would mean a penetration to the box :/ maybe JB weld the strut on 
there too!



Thanks,

`S



---

Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.



On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:37, Adam Moffett 
<dmmoff...@gmail.com><mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:



Very nice.



Just an opinion, but I would put a few more bolts into that mounting strut.  
I'm guessing you've got one in each corner.  Even low grade steel bolts are 
staggeringly strong, but if you had a bad one then suddenly you're hanging on 
one bolt.





On 4/27/2016 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:

I built a CMM for 2016!



Highlights:



* Gigabit everything



* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices



* Sync/Power up to 24 devices



* Power 24v and 48v devices



* Temperature monitoring



* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor



* Fan seizure notification



* LED light strip controlled by door



* Door alarm trigger



* Hoist pull loop



* 20" x 18" x 10"



* 36lbs



* Price circa $2100



Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg

Parts list here: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf



Any suggestions to make this more awesome?



[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Thanks Jamie, we didn’t fuse/breaker the inside of the box because we have that 
at the base with the rectifier.  We live in CA where the weather is fairly 
predictable and don’t suffer from lightening.  In 14 years we’ve never had a 
single device fried from something that fuse/breaker would have prevented.  I 
didn’t want to risk having something that needed to be reset or replaced that 
was tower mounted, but only at the base.

`S

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:55 AM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?


Oops
On Apr 28, 2016 9:31 AM, "Brian Sullivan" 
<installe...@foxvalley.net<mailto:installe...@foxvalley.net>> wrote:
Like.  How much to just build three for us?
On 4/28/2016 7:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David 
<dmilho...@wletc.com<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)

On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

e switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber
>>>> goes directly into the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from
>>>> enclosure).  The CCR1016 then has all the backhauls directly connected via
>>>> fiber, and the APs are grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8
>>>> APs there’s a full gig to the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if
>>>> you added 6 SyncInjectors total).  The enclosures are standardized so we
>>>> are building to have hot spares on standby ready to go in the event of a
>>>> catastrophic failure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
>>>>
>>>> 1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
>>>>
>>>> Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC
>>>> Simplex to Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> `S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
>>>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I built a CMM for 2016!
>>>>
>>>> Highlights:
>>>>
>>>> * Gigabit everything
>>>>
>>>> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>>>>
>>>> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>>>>
>>>> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>>>>
>>>> * Temperature monitoring
>>>>
>>>> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>>>>
>>>> * Fan seizure notification
>>>>
>>>> * LED light strip controlled by door
>>>>
>>>> * Door alarm trigger
>>>>
>>>> * Hoist pull loop
>>>>
>>>> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>>>>
>>>> * 36lbs
>>>>
>>>> * Price circa $2100
>>>>
>>>> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
>>>> Parts list here:
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>>>>
>>>> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Josh Baird]

gt;>
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP
>>>> transceivers linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP
>>>> compatibility.  So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber
>>>> goes directly into the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from
>>>> enclosure).  The CCR1016 then has all the backhauls directly connected via
>>>> fiber, and the APs are grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8
>>>> APs there’s a full gig to the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if
>>>> you added 6 SyncInjectors total).  The enclosures are standardized so we
>>>> are building to have hot spares on standby ready to go in the event of a
>>>> catastrophic failure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
>>>>
>>>> 1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord <http://goo.gl/mKVXG1>
>>>> http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
>>>>
>>>> Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC
>>>> Simplex to Male SC UPC Simplex, <http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm>
>>>> http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> `S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto: <af-boun...@afmug.com>af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Josh Baird
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
>>>> <sc...@velociter.net>sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I built a CMM for 2016!
>>>>
>>>> Highlights:
>>>>
>>>> * Gigabit everything
>>>>
>>>> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>>>>
>>>> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>>>>
>>>> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>>>>
>>>> * Temperature monitoring
>>>>
>>>> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>>>>
>>>> * Fan seizure notification
>>>>
>>>> * LED light strip controlled by door
>>>>
>>>> * Door alarm trigger
>>>>
>>>> * Hoist pull loop
>>>>
>>>> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>>>>
>>>> * 36lbs
>>>>
>>>> * Price circa $2100
>>>>
>>>> Photo here:
>>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg>
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
>>>> Parts list here:
>>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf>
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>>>>
>>>> [ <http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg>
>>>> http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[George Skorup]

:

1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1

Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber,
Male SC UPC Simplex to Male SC UPC Simplex,
http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm

`S

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
*Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the
bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen
<sc...@velociter.net <mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:

I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

*  Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

*  Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by
rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?


[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Jaime Solorza]

20.00

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Breakers like that are around $20-30 each right?
>
>
> On 4/28/2016 12:55 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Oops
> On Apr 28, 2016 9:31 AM, "Brian Sullivan" 
> wrote:
>
>> Like.  How much to just build three for us?
>>
>> On 4/28/2016 7:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David < 
>> dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>>
>>> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
>>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>>
 I built a CMM for 2016!

 Highlights:

 * Gigabit everything

 * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

 * Sync/Power up to 24 devices

 * Power 24v and 48v devices

 * Temperature monitoring

 * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

 * Fan seizure notification

 * LED light strip controlled by door

 * Door alarm trigger

 * Hoist pull loop

 * 20" x 18" x 10"

 * 36lbs

 * Price circa $2100

 Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
 Parts list here:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

 Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

 [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Josh Baird]

This is what I use:

http://www.alliedelec.com/altech-corp-ddfl4u/70078329/

Fused distribution when combined with jumper bars (another part #).

Josh

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Breakers like that are around $20-30 each right?
>
>
> On 4/28/2016 12:55 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Oops
> On Apr 28, 2016 9:31 AM, "Brian Sullivan" 
> wrote:
>
>> Like.  How much to just build three for us?
>>
>> On 4/28/2016 7:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David < 
>> dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>>
>>> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
>>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>>
 I built a CMM for 2016!

 Highlights:

 * Gigabit everything

 * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

 * Sync/Power up to 24 devices

 * Power 24v and 48v devices

 * Temperature monitoring

 * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

 * Fan seizure notification

 * LED light strip controlled by door

 * Door alarm trigger

 * Hoist pull loop

 * 20" x 18" x 10"

 * 36lbs

 * Price circa $2100

 Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
 Parts list here:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

 Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

 [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Adam Moffett]

Breakers like that are around $20-30 each right?


On 4/28/2016 12:55 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


Oops

On Apr 28, 2016 9:31 AM, "Brian Sullivan" > wrote:


Like.  How much to just build three for us?

On 4/28/2016 7:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David > wrote:

Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)


On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

This looks nice.  Good job. What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen
> wrote:

I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by
rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?


[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Josh Baird]

They only do timing, not ethernet.  You run dedicated timing cables from
the AP to the SyncBox, and then Cat5 from the AP to the Netonix switch for
power+data.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
wrote:

> I considered those but they're not gigabit, correct?
>
> Thanks,
> `S
>
> ---
> Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.
>
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:39, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, yeah, that was you!  That makes sense.  We are looking at using
> SyncBox 12's at the top just for timing FSK (and 450 too I guess).  This
> allows us to run 48V up the tower which we use to power WS-12-250-DC's.
> The FSK/450 gets timing port sync from the SyncBox and 24V power from the
> WS-12-250-DC.  No need for separate SyncInjectors or DC-DC converters in
> this scenario.  Just an idea.
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm the guy who just smoked a ring of FSK APs by running 48v to them! :)
>>  I wanted to use 48v for the reasons you just stated but because much of
>> the Cambium equipment is only 24v this meant having a DC DC converter in
>> the enclosure which is another point of failure, expensive, and impractical
>> to step down large wattages.  I understand the same point of failure is in
>> the WS but it's integrated and hidden so I pretend it's not there. :)
>>
>> With the 12awg SOOW we use even on a 600' run there is less than 3%
>> voltage drop. The WS can take as little as 9VDC. The rectifier can easily
>> be tuned up to 27v to offset any drop. Also we gut the AC DC supplies in
>> the 1016 Mikrotik and run it direct DC since it takes 24vdc.  Everything is
>> fully DC, finally!
>>
>> I'll reply with ICT price when I'm back in the office.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> 'S
>>
>> Sent mobile!
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:15, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are
>> running DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern.  I realize the
>> WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more
>> efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V).  If you already have 4
>> batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier?
>>
>> Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT?  Off-list is
>> fine if you would like.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <
>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks!  The base of the tower is quite simple:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk
>>>
>>> ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available)
>>> http://goo.gl/GkOBBW
>>>
>>> 12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to
>>> make 24v) http://goo.gl/rCXciW
>>>
>>> 3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking
>>> http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP
>>>
>>> MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ
>>>
>>> 6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors
>>> http://goo.gl/8x5fcg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total
>>> height.  There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U
>>> battery trays.  The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to
>>> everything, with the exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for
>>> battery management and monitoring.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP
>>> transceivers linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP
>>> compatibility.  So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber
>>> goes directly into the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from
>>> enclosure).  The CCR1016 then has all the backhauls directly connected via
>>> fiber, and the APs are grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8
>>> APs there’s a full gig to the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if
>>> you added 6 SyncInjectors total).  The enclosures are standardized so we
>>> are building to have hot spares on standby ready to go in the event of a
>>> catastrophic failure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
>>>
>>> 1000’

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Jaime Solorza]

Like these
On Apr 28, 2016 9:31 AM, "Brian Sullivan"  wrote:

> Like.  How much to just build three for us?
>
> On 4/28/2016 7:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David  wrote:
>
>> Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)
>>
>>
>> On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>
>> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen > > wrote:
>>
>>> I built a CMM for 2016!
>>>
>>> Highlights:
>>>
>>> * Gigabit everything
>>>
>>> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>>>
>>> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>>>
>>> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>>>
>>> * Temperature monitoring
>>>
>>> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>>>
>>> * Fan seizure notification
>>>
>>> * LED light strip controlled by door
>>>
>>> * Door alarm trigger
>>>
>>> * Hoist pull loop
>>>
>>> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>>>
>>> * 36lbs
>>>
>>> * Price circa $2100
>>>
>>> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
>>> Parts list here:
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>>>
>>> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>>>
>>> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Jaime Solorza]

Why didn't you use fuses on your terminal block?   nice work...

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
wrote:

> I built a CMM for 2016!
>
> Highlights:
>
> * Gigabit everything
>
> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>
> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>
> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>
> * Temperature monitoring
>
> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>
> * Fan seizure notification
>
> * LED light strip controlled by door
>
> * Door alarm trigger
>
> * Hoist pull loop
>
> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>
> * 36lbs
>
> * Price circa $2100
>
> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
> Parts list here:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>
> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>
> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Adam Moffett]

Put a neoprene washer under the bolt, and a bead of silicone behind the 
strut.  Even if it someday down the road it started weeping during the 
rain it would just fall out through your condensate drain.


.I didn't read your parts list though.  If you /don't/ have a 
condensate drain you should think about that.



On 4/28/2016 12:40 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:

Yeah I feel the same. The two are going into reinforced embedded threads- 
adding more would mean a penetration to the box :/ maybe JB weld the strut on 
there too!

Thanks,
`S

---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.


On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:37, Adam Moffett  wrote:

Very nice.

Just an opinion, but I would put a few more bolts into that mounting strut.  
I'm guessing you've got one in each corner.  Even low grade steel bolts are 
staggeringly strong, but if you had a bad one then suddenly you're hanging on 
one bolt.



On 4/27/2016 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

I considered those but they're not gigabit, correct?

Thanks,
`S

---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:39, Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Oh, yeah, that was you!  That makes sense.  We are looking at using SyncBox 
12's at the top just for timing FSK (and 450 too I guess).  This allows us to 
run 48V up the tower which we use to power WS-12-250-DC's.  The FSK/450 gets 
timing port sync from the SyncBox and 24V power from the WS-12-250-DC.  No need 
for separate SyncInjectors or DC-DC converters in this scenario.  Just an idea.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
I'm the guy who just smoked a ring of FSK APs by running 48v to them! :)  I 
wanted to use 48v for the reasons you just stated but because much of the 
Cambium equipment is only 24v this meant having a DC DC converter in the 
enclosure which is another point of failure, expensive, and impractical to step 
down large wattages.  I understand the same point of failure is in the WS but 
it's integrated and hidden so I pretend it's not there. :)

With the 12awg SOOW we use even on a 600' run there is less than 3% voltage 
drop. The WS can take as little as 9VDC. The rectifier can easily be tuned up 
to 27v to offset any drop. Also we gut the AC DC supplies in the 1016 Mikrotik 
and run it direct DC since it takes 24vdc.  Everything is fully DC, finally!

I'll reply with ICT price when I'm back in the office.

Thanks,
'S

Sent mobile!

On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:15, Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are running 
DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern.  I realize the 
WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more 
efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V).  If you already have 4 
batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier?

Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT?  Off-list is fine if 
you would like.

Thanks,

Josh

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
Thanks!  The base of the tower is quite simple:

Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk
ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available) http://goo.gl/GkOBBW
12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to make 24v) 
http://goo.gl/rCXciW
3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking 
http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP
MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ
6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors 
http://goo.gl/8x5fcg

The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total height.  
There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U battery trays.  
The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to everything, with the 
exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for battery management and 
monitoring.

Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP transceivers 
linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP compatibility.  
So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber goes directly into 
the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from enclosure).  The CCR1016 
then has all the backhauls directly connected via fiber, and the APs are 
grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8 APs there’s a full gig to 
the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if you added 6 SyncInjectors 
total).  The enclosures are standardized so we are building to have hot spares 
on standby ready to go in the event of a catastrophic failure.

I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC Simplex to 
Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm

`S


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

*  

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Yeah I feel the same. The two are going into reinforced embedded threads- 
adding more would mean a penetration to the box :/ maybe JB weld the strut on 
there too! 

Thanks,
`S

---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

> On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:37, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> Very nice.
> 
> Just an opinion, but I would put a few more bolts into that mounting strut.  
> I'm guessing you've got one in each corner.  Even low grade steel bolts are 
> staggeringly strong, but if you had a bad one then suddenly you're hanging on 
> one bolt.
> 
> 
>> On 4/27/2016 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
>> I built a CMM for 2016!
>> 
>> Highlights:
>> 
>> * Gigabit everything
>> 
>> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>> 
>> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>> 
>> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>> 
>> * Temperature monitoring
>> 
>> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>> 
>> * Fan seizure notification
>> 
>> * LED light strip controlled by door
>> 
>> * Door alarm trigger
>> 
>> * Hoist pull loop
>> 
>> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>> 
>> * 36lbs
>> 
>> * Price circa $2100
>> 
>> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
>> Parts list here: 
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>> 
>> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>> 
>> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Josh Baird]

Oh, yeah, that was you!  That makes sense.  We are looking at using SyncBox
12's at the top just for timing FSK (and 450 too I guess).  This allows us
to run 48V up the tower which we use to power WS-12-250-DC's.  The FSK/450
gets timing port sync from the SyncBox and 24V power from the
WS-12-250-DC.  No need for separate SyncInjectors or DC-DC converters in
this scenario.  Just an idea.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
wrote:

> I'm the guy who just smoked a ring of FSK APs by running 48v to them! :)
>  I wanted to use 48v for the reasons you just stated but because much of
> the Cambium equipment is only 24v this meant having a DC DC converter in
> the enclosure which is another point of failure, expensive, and impractical
> to step down large wattages.  I understand the same point of failure is in
> the WS but it's integrated and hidden so I pretend it's not there. :)
>
> With the 12awg SOOW we use even on a 600' run there is less than 3%
> voltage drop. The WS can take as little as 9VDC. The rectifier can easily
> be tuned up to 27v to offset any drop. Also we gut the AC DC supplies in
> the 1016 Mikrotik and run it direct DC since it takes 24vdc.  Everything is
> fully DC, finally!
>
> I'll reply with ICT price when I'm back in the office.
>
> Thanks,
> 'S
>
> Sent mobile!
>
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:15, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are
> running DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern.  I realize the
> WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more
> efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V).  If you already have 4
> batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier?
>
> Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT?  Off-list is fine
> if you would like.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks!  The base of the tower is quite simple:
>>
>>
>>
>> Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk
>>
>> ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available)
>> http://goo.gl/GkOBBW
>>
>> 12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to make
>> 24v) http://goo.gl/rCXciW
>>
>> 3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking
>> http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP
>>
>> MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ
>>
>> 6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors
>> http://goo.gl/8x5fcg
>>
>>
>>
>> The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total
>> height.  There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U
>> battery trays.  The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to
>> everything, with the exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for
>> battery management and monitoring.
>>
>>
>>
>> Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP
>> transceivers linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP
>> compatibility.  So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber
>> goes directly into the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from
>> enclosure).  The CCR1016 then has all the backhauls directly connected via
>> fiber, and the APs are grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8
>> APs there’s a full gig to the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if
>> you added 6 SyncInjectors total).  The enclosures are standardized so we
>> are building to have hot spares on standby ready to go in the event of a
>> catastrophic failure.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
>>
>> 1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
>>
>> Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC Simplex
>> to Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> `S
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?
>>
>>
>>
>> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I built a CMM for 2016!
>>
>> Highlights:
>>
>> * Gigabit

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Adam Moffett]

Very nice.

Just an opinion, but I would put a few more bolts into that mounting 
strut.  I'm guessing you've got one in each corner.  Even low grade 
steel bolts are staggeringly strong, but if you had a bad one then 
suddenly you're hanging on one bolt.



On 4/27/2016 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:

I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

I'm the guy who just smoked a ring of FSK APs by running 48v to them! :)  I 
wanted to use 48v for the reasons you just stated but because much of the 
Cambium equipment is only 24v this meant having a DC DC converter in the 
enclosure which is another point of failure, expensive, and impractical to step 
down large wattages.  I understand the same point of failure is in the WS but 
it's integrated and hidden so I pretend it's not there. :)

With the 12awg SOOW we use even on a 600' run there is less than 3% voltage 
drop. The WS can take as little as 9VDC. The rectifier can easily be tuned up 
to 27v to offset any drop. Also we gut the AC DC supplies in the 1016 Mikrotik 
and run it direct DC since it takes 24vdc.  Everything is fully DC, finally!

I'll reply with ICT price when I'm back in the office.

Thanks,
'S

Sent mobile!

On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:15, Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are running 
DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern.  I realize the 
WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more 
efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V).  If you already have 4 
batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier?

Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT?  Off-list is fine if 
you would like.

Thanks,

Josh

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
Thanks!  The base of the tower is quite simple:

Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk
ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available) http://goo.gl/GkOBBW
12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to make 24v) 
http://goo.gl/rCXciW
3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking 
http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP
MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ
6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors 
http://goo.gl/8x5fcg

The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total height.  
There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U battery trays.  
The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to everything, with the 
exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for battery management and 
monitoring.

Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP transceivers 
linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP compatibility.  
So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it's fiber goes directly into 
the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from enclosure).  The CCR1016 
then has all the backhauls directly connected via fiber, and the APs are 
grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8 APs there's a full gig to 
the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if you added 6 SyncInjectors 
total).  The enclosures are standardized so we are building to have hot spares 
on standby ready to go in the event of a catastrophic failure.

I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we're using:
1000' 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC Simplex to 
Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm

`S


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Josh Baird]

Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are
running DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern.  I realize the
WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more
efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V).  If you already have 4
batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier?

Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT?  Off-list is fine
if you would like.

Thanks,

Josh

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
wrote:

> Thanks!  The base of the tower is quite simple:
>
>
>
> Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk
>
> ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available)
> http://goo.gl/GkOBBW
>
> 12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to make
> 24v) http://goo.gl/rCXciW
>
> 3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking
> http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP
>
> MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ
>
> 6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors
> http://goo.gl/8x5fcg
>
>
>
> The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total
> height.  There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U
> battery trays.  The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to
> everything, with the exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for
> battery management and monitoring.
>
>
>
> Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP
> transceivers linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP
> compatibility.  So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber
> goes directly into the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from
> enclosure).  The CCR1016 then has all the backhauls directly connected via
> fiber, and the APs are grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8
> APs there’s a full gig to the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if
> you added 6 SyncInjectors total).  The enclosures are standardized so we
> are building to have hot spares on standby ready to go in the event of a
> catastrophic failure.
>
>
>
> I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
>
> 1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
>
> Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC Simplex
> to Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm
>
>
>
> `S
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?
>
>
>
> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
> wrote:
>
> I built a CMM for 2016!
>
> Highlights:
>
> * Gigabit everything
>
> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>
> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>
> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>
> * Temperature monitoring
>
> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>
> * Fan seizure notification
>
> * LED light strip controlled by door
>
> * Door alarm trigger
>
> * Hoist pull loop
>
> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>
> * 36lbs
>
> * Price circa $2100
>
> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
> Parts list here:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>
> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>
> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Thanks!  The base of the tower is quite simple:

Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk
ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available) http://goo.gl/GkOBBW
12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to make 24v) 
http://goo.gl/rCXciW
3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking 
http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP
MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ
6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors 
http://goo.gl/8x5fcg

The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total height.  
There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U battery trays.  
The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to everything, with the 
exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for battery management and 
monitoring.

Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP transceivers 
linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP compatibility.  
So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber goes directly into 
the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from enclosure).  The CCR1016 
then has all the backhauls directly connected via fiber, and the APs are 
grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8 APs there’s a full gig to 
the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if you added 6 SyncInjectors 
total).  The enclosures are standardized so we are building to have hot spares 
on standby ready to go in the event of a catastrophic failure.

I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC Simplex to 
Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm

`S


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
<sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:
I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Josh Baird]

Hopefully you don't have rackmount at the top of your towers.  :)

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:57 AM, David  wrote:

> Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)
>
>
> On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
>> I built a CMM for 2016!
>>
>> Highlights:
>>
>> * Gigabit everything
>>
>> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>>
>> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>>
>> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>>
>> * Temperature monitoring
>>
>> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>>
>> * Fan seizure notification
>>
>> * LED light strip controlled by door
>>
>> * Door alarm trigger
>>
>> * Hoist pull loop
>>
>> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>>
>> * 36lbs
>>
>> * Price circa $2100
>>
>> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
>> Parts list here:
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>>
>> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>>
>> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[David]

Now we need rack mount since 99% of mine are all rackmount :)


On 04/28/2016 06:32 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:


I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

[http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]

Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Josh Baird]

This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
wrote:

> I built a CMM for 2016!
>
> Highlights:
>
> * Gigabit everything
>
> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>
> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>
> * Power 24v and 48v devices
>
> * Temperature monitoring
>
> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>
> * Fan seizure notification
>
> * LED light strip controlled by door
>
> * Door alarm trigger
>
> * Hoist pull loop
>
> * 20" x 18" x 10"
>
> * 36lbs
>
> * Price circa $2100
>
> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
> Parts list here:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>
> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>
> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>

[AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

[Scott Vander Dussen]

I built a CMM for 2016!

Highlights:

* Gigabit everything

* BiDi fiber support for 6 devices

* Sync/Power up to 24 devices

* Power 24v and 48v devices

* Temperature monitoring

* Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor

* Fan seizure notification

* LED light strip controlled by door

* Door alarm trigger

* Hoist pull loop

* 20" x 18" x 10"

* 36lbs

* Price circa $2100

Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
Parts list here: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf

Any suggestions to make this more awesome?

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