Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Cloud Hosted Router. It's a branch of ROS with drivers and other support specific to virtual environments. It has FastPath for x86 as well. There's a thread on their forum and we talked about it in the last TBW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59DP8_VorFc - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Whats the CHR? On 8/18/2015 8:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Also, don't forget the new CHR, though it's still in beta. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - blockquote From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing blockquote I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: blockquote Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas? /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Whats the CHR? On 8/18/2015 8:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Also, don't forget the new CHR, though it's still in beta. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:10:26 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. *From:* Jon Langeler mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Oh, so not the CHR? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:08:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing And by CHR I mean just a regular x86 image I managed to load on my hosted providers structure from CD image. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 4:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing we tried to test the 10Gbps networking before we realized it was limited. It recognizes a 10gb adapter now, and shows negotiation at 10gb.. so I am sure it'll come along fine. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: Oh, that would be nice. I have a CHR already loaded as an image on nearly bare metal at my hosting company. Wasn’t too hard, but I’m sure the drivers and stuff don’t take advantage of the ability to dynamically add/remove CPU, Memory and HD space. Let alone the 10Gbps networking. So that would be welcome if they work towards that with CHR! From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Cloud Hosted Router. It's a branch of ROS with drivers and other support specific to virtual environments. It has FastPath for x86 as well. There's a thread on their forum and we talked about it in the last TBW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59DP8_VorFc - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Whats the CHR? On 8/18/2015 8:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: blockquote Also, don't forget the new CHR, though it's still in beta. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net blockquote From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing blockquote I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: blockquote Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas? /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
From what I've heard, it is DPDK enabled. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 4:54:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Oh, that would be nice. I have a CHR already loaded as an image on nearly bare metal at my hosting company. Wasn’t too hard, but I’m sure the drivers and stuff don’t take advantage of the ability to dynamically add/remove CPU, Memory and HD space. Let alone the 10Gbps networking. So that would be welcome if they work towards that with CHR! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Cloud Hosted Router. It's a branch of ROS with drivers and other support specific to virtual environments. It has FastPath for x86 as well. There's a thread on their forum and we talked about it in the last TBW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59DP8_VorFc - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Whats the CHR? On 8/18/2015 8:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Also, don't forget the new CHR, though it's still in beta. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - blockquote From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing blockquote I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: blockquote Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas? /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
And by CHR I mean just a regular x86 image I managed to load on my hosted providers structure from CD image. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 4:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing we tried to test the 10Gbps networking before we realized it was limited. It recognizes a 10gb adapter now, and shows negotiation at 10gb.. so I am sure it'll come along fine. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.netmailto:sterl...@avative.net wrote: Oh, that would be nice. I have a CHR already loaded as an image on nearly bare metal at my hosting company. Wasn’t too hard, but I’m sure the drivers and stuff don’t take advantage of the ability to dynamically add/remove CPU, Memory and HD space. Let alone the 10Gbps networking. So that would be welcome if they work towards that with CHR! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Cloud Hosted Router. It's a branch of ROS with drivers and other support specific to virtual environments. It has FastPath for x86 as well. There's a thread on their forum and we talked about it in the last TBW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59DP8_VorFc - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/mdwestix From: Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.commailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Whats the CHR? On 8/18/2015 8:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Also, don't forget the new CHR, though it's still in beta. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/mdwestix From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.netmailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518tel:%28305%29663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.netmailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langelermailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Oh, that would be nice. I have a CHR already loaded as an image on nearly bare metal at my hosting company. Wasn’t too hard, but I’m sure the drivers and stuff don’t take advantage of the ability to dynamically add/remove CPU, Memory and HD space. Let alone the 10Gbps networking. So that would be welcome if they work towards that with CHR! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Cloud Hosted Router. It's a branch of ROS with drivers and other support specific to virtual environments. It has FastPath for x86 as well. There's a thread on their forum and we talked about it in the last TBW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59DP8_VorFc - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/mdwestix From: Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.commailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Whats the CHR? On 8/18/2015 8:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Also, don't forget the new CHR, though it's still in beta. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/mdwestix From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.netmailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.netmailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langelermailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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Are the tools part of the ROS? Cost? From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:License#License_Levels Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: There is actually a free license, which is pretty limited, but it might be all you'd need. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: X86 requires a license. Features aren't limited but number of tunnels and things. You could do the cheap $50 license. Be aware the license is tied to the storage medium. If the disk goes bad you need another license. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 18, 2015 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Are the tools part of the ROS? Cost? *From:* Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:10 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. *From:* Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
There is actually a free license, which is pretty limited, but it might be all you'd need. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: X86 requires a license. Features aren't limited but number of tunnels and things. You could do the cheap $50 license. Be aware the license is tied to the storage medium. If the disk goes bad you need another license. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 18, 2015 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Are the tools part of the ROS? Cost? *From:* Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:10 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. *From:* Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
X86 requires a license. YES all MT require license (routerboards have it preinstalled) Features aren't limited but number of tunnels and things. You could do the cheap $50 license. YES, the basic level 4 license is $40 Be aware the license is tied to the storage medium. If the disk goes bad you need another license. YES, license is tied to the Storage medium. If you loose a key due to media dying you can get a replacement for $10 Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:18:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing X86 requires a license. Features aren't limited but number of tunnels and things. You could do the cheap $50 license. Be aware the license is tied to the storage medium. If the disk goes bad you need another license. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 18, 2015 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Are the tools part of the ROS? Cost? From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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Are the tools part of the ROS? YES Cost $40 license from Mikrotik But you can download and install for 24hr or something like that at no charge. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:15:40 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Are the tools part of the ROS? Cost? From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing A couple of quick thought for both of your.. Chuck Forrest.. 1) Most folks overlook or not aware of the Packet Generator / Traffic Generator tool in Mikrotik http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Performance_Testing_with_Traffic_Generator 2) Most folks often forget that MT ROS is actually Software which will run on most x86 machines... i.e. you can load up the MT ROS on any PC hardware and get some of the functionality needed. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I use something similar now. But only have one. And it is a bit slow. Considering what Forrest is building. Will try the MT router initially and see what happens. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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Yeah, I loved it when Canopy NAT came along. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Canopy had a NAT mode which did enable a DHCP server. It also worked as a PPPOE client! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Canopy makes routers, switches, DHCP servers, PPPoE servers, etc., etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com -- From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:26:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing He never left canopy land. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:02:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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we don't use mikrotik well, i think we have one around here somewhere that we tested with lol On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 3:02:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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I'm in the process of building a multiport tester myself. I'll be using servers with pcie ethernet cards. Each server will be able to move full duplex random and/or known hard data between them. My desire is to stream 1gpbs between them for 30 seconds, in full duplex across all ports on a poe device, and compare the data fully to ensure no bit errors. On Aug 17, 2015 12:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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My experience with GigE is that rate/duplex auto-negotiation still takes place on only four wires so you could have a missing pair (or even one wire) and it would try to run gigabit if your interfaces are stupid. We had exactly this problem when the 450 APs first came out. They would link up at 1Gb even though there was only a 10/100 injector in between and obviously only two data pairs in use. Cambium later turned on the feature in their PHY that detects if data is actually present on all four pairs or not and adjusts negotiation accordingly. And that was talking to MikroTik ports, BTW. So no, I don't think you can rely on the does it show linked at 1Gbps? test. Also, I don't think Josh's suggested MikroTik bandwidth test using a single router will work. If you run a speedtest to itself, it will only go through the CPU. Just sayin. On 8/17/2015 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? *From:* Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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10 seconds each? Labor must be cheap. I guess get two rb2011 and then btest them all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 6:18 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yeah, we try to plug, test, unplug in about 10 seconds if possible. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 4:16 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing What if you plug a dumb switch into the two ports. That should make the traffic bar go up. I can't imagine taking every SS to this test... That will take forever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 6:12 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Good to know. We will see if the router can do a test. If it fails if we unplug it then it is making the whole trip. Or we can get two of these routers. *From:* George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 4:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing My experience with GigE is that rate/duplex auto-negotiation still takes place on only four wires so you could have a missing pair (or even one wire) and it would try to run gigabit if your interfaces are stupid. We had exactly this problem when the 450 APs first came out. They would link up at 1Gb even though there was only a 10/100 injector in between and obviously only two data pairs in use. Cambium later turned on the feature in their PHY that detects if data is actually present on all four pairs or not and adjusts negotiation accordingly. And that was talking to MikroTik ports, BTW. So no, I don't think you can rely on the does it show linked at 1Gbps? test. Also, I don't think Josh's suggested MikroTik bandwidth test using a single router will work. If you run a speedtest to itself, it will only go through the CPU. Just sayin. On 8/17/2015 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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What if you plug a dumb switch into the two ports. That should make the traffic bar go up. I can't imagine taking every SS to this test... That will take forever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 6:12 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Good to know. We will see if the router can do a test. If it fails if we unplug it then it is making the whole trip. Or we can get two of these routers. *From:* George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 4:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing My experience with GigE is that rate/duplex auto-negotiation still takes place on only four wires so you could have a missing pair (or even one wire) and it would try to run gigabit if your interfaces are stupid. We had exactly this problem when the 450 APs first came out. They would link up at 1Gb even though there was only a 10/100 injector in between and obviously only two data pairs in use. Cambium later turned on the feature in their PHY that detects if data is actually present on all four pairs or not and adjusts negotiation accordingly. And that was talking to MikroTik ports, BTW. So no, I don't think you can rely on the does it show linked at 1Gbps? test. Also, I don't think Josh's suggested MikroTik bandwidth test using a single router will work. If you run a speedtest to itself, it will only go through the CPU. Just sayin. On 8/17/2015 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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If your success rate is pretty good couldn't you just test multiple units at one time. Just use your current testing procedure, but more units daisy chained in a row. If data transmits through multiple units successfully then all of the units in that row must be good. ~Duncan On 8/17/2015 1:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Surge suppressors. For data throughput. One of several tests. *From:* Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 2:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing What are you testing exactly? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 3:55 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? *From:* Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 1:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Probably two laptops, doesn’t need to be anything fancy, my 2006 Lenovo X60 with GigE port does the full 950Mbps TCP. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 1:52 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] GigE Testing Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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Good to know. We will see if the router can do a test. If it fails if we unplug it then it is making the whole trip. Or we can get two of these routers. From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing My experience with GigE is that rate/duplex auto-negotiation still takes place on only four wires so you could have a missing pair (or even one wire) and it would try to run gigabit if your interfaces are stupid. We had exactly this problem when the 450 APs first came out. They would link up at 1Gb even though there was only a 10/100 injector in between and obviously only two data pairs in use. Cambium later turned on the feature in their PHY that detects if data is actually present on all four pairs or not and adjusts negotiation accordingly. And that was talking to MikroTik ports, BTW. So no, I don't think you can rely on the does it show linked at 1Gbps? test. Also, I don't think Josh's suggested MikroTik bandwidth test using a single router will work. If you run a speedtest to itself, it will only go through the CPU. Just sayin. On 8/17/2015 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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Yeah, we try to plug, test, unplug in about 10 seconds if possible. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing What if you plug a dumb switch into the two ports. That should make the traffic bar go up. I can't imagine taking every SS to this test... That will take forever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 6:12 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Good to know. We will see if the router can do a test. If it fails if we unplug it then it is making the whole trip. Or we can get two of these routers. From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing My experience with GigE is that rate/duplex auto-negotiation still takes place on only four wires so you could have a missing pair (or even one wire) and it would try to run gigabit if your interfaces are stupid. We had exactly this problem when the 450 APs first came out. They would link up at 1Gb even though there was only a 10/100 injector in between and obviously only two data pairs in use. Cambium later turned on the feature in their PHY that detects if data is actually present on all four pairs or not and adjusts negotiation accordingly. And that was talking to MikroTik ports, BTW. So no, I don't think you can rely on the does it show linked at 1Gbps? test. Also, I don't think Josh's suggested MikroTik bandwidth test using a single router will work. If you run a speedtest to itself, it will only go through the CPU. Just sayin. On 8/17/2015 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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Chuck, RB2011 is probably not the best one to use, first it's excessively costly for what your using it for (you don't need ten ports). also it's cpu is so small that you can't run any tests over about 80mbps tcp. so you can probably only check the negotiated speed... If you had two decent computers you could use iperf or mikrotik btest.exe or buy two mikrotik CCR1009 or RB1100AH which will allow you to run full gig bandwidth tests. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: I'm in the process of building a multiport tester myself. I'll be using servers with pcie ethernet cards. Each server will be able to move full duplex random and/or known hard data between them. My desire is to stream 1gpbs between them for 30 seconds, in full duplex across all ports on a poe device, and compare the data fully to ensure no bit errors. On Aug 17, 2015 12:51 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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They are there, but usually not the best suited for the roll. If I were to replace my MTs with anything, it'd be Telco Systems for CE. The rest of that stuff belongs in a datacenter or a wiring closet, not a tower. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 6:48:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing They are a great option for lots of WISP’s but there are * many * that doesn’t use MT …. Cisco/Juniper/Brocade etc come to mind as other options used… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 5:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing They're far from perfect, but they're the best fit for almost everyone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:30:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing not everyone drinks the MT Kool Aide Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:02:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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At my former job, we had Juniper switches at every “leaf” tower site and at major “hub” sites we had Juniper MX routers with Juniper switches as well. At one time, similar setup but Cisco routers at each and every site. Worked extremely well – very reliable. Am I saying it was better than MT? Don’t know … don’t see it used very much in my line of work. Having said that, my current employer uses MT in their wireless networks so I’ll be spending more time looking into them and understanding them better I’m guessing… that area is run by a different group than mine. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 7:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing They are there, but usually not the best suited for the roll. If I were to replace my MTs with anything, it'd be Telco Systems for CE. The rest of that stuff belongs in a datacenter or a wiring closet, not a tower. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org mailto:p...@paulstewart.org To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 6:48:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing They are a great option for lots of WISP’s but there are *many* that doesn’t use MT …. Cisco/Juniper/Brocade etc come to mind as other options used… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 5:32 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing They're far from perfect, but they're the best fit for almost everyone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:30:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing not everyone drinks the MT Kool Aide Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:02:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
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I’m not sure Mikrotik is known for their tech support. But they have great resources here in the US like Butch and Dennis. But coming from a Telco background… you’re going to opt for the bigger boys in the industry I’m sure (plus you need features I doubt Mikrotik has ever had… like DS-3 support, etc.). Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I looked at them years ago, I think I may have purchased something from them, some wireless card. But the whole tech support in Latvia thing put me off. We were pretty much a cisco shop. From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:02:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
[AFMUG] GigE Testing
Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Probably two laptops, doesn't need to be anything fancy, my 2006 Lenovo X60 with GigE port does the full 950Mbps TCP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
What are you testing exactly? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 3:55 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? *From:* Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 1:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Probably two laptops, doesn’t need to be anything fancy, my 2006 Lenovo X60 with GigE port does the full 950Mbps TCP. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 1:52 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] GigE Testing Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Probably two laptops, doesn’t need to be anything fancy, my 2006 Lenovo X60 with GigE port does the full 950Mbps TCP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Surge suppressors. For data throughput. One of several tests. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing What are you testing exactly? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 3:55 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Probably two laptops, doesn’t need to be anything fancy, my 2006 Lenovo X60 with GigE port does the full 950Mbps TCP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Canopy had a NAT mode which did enable a DHCP server. It also worked as a PPPOE client! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Canopy makes routers, switches, DHCP servers, PPPoE servers, etc., etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 4:26:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing He never left canopy land. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 3:02:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Like to make sure it does gigabit speeds? Testing new models? Wouldn't it be as simple as clicking in and seeing the device negotiate at 1G? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:01 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Surge suppressors. For data throughput. One of several tests. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 2:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing What are you testing exactly? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 3:55 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? *From:* Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 1:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Probably two laptops, doesn’t need to be anything fancy, my 2006 Lenovo X60 with GigE port does the full 950Mbps TCP. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 1:52 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] GigE Testing Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Yes, just that simple. Need to have it do it in a few seconds and I want a test that truly will detect a problem. Always testing new models but I have nice lab gear for that. This is for production to functionally test each and every unit. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Like to make sure it does gigabit speeds? Testing new models? Wouldn't it be as simple as clicking in and seeing the device negotiate at 1G? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:01 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Surge suppressors. For data throughput. One of several tests. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing What are you testing exactly? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 3:55 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Probably two laptops, doesn’t need to be anything fancy, my 2006 Lenovo X60 with GigE port does the full 950Mbps TCP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
If you've previously validated that the hardware you're using can pass gig speeds (which I'd be surprised if it can't, you're not actually doing any kind of packet processing on the surge suppressor, right?) then I think making sure it links is more than sufficient. On 8/17/2015 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? *From:* Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
I just want to make sure if I tested it and said it works, that my customer doesn’t have a different experience. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:24 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing but he is an engineerhe needs cool lights flickering on and off , a print out, buzzing noises more print outs. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: If you've previously validated that the hardware you're using can pass gig speeds (which I'd be surprised if it can't, you're not actually doing any kind of packet processing on the surge suppressor, right?) then I think making sure it links is more than sufficient. On 8/17/2015 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
but he is an engineerhe needs cool lights flickering on and off , a print out, buzzing noises more print outs. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: If you've previously validated that the hardware you're using can pass gig speeds (which I'd be surprised if it can't, you're not actually doing any kind of packet processing on the surge suppressor, right?) then I think making sure it links is more than sufficient. On 8/17/2015 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing
IMO Take a new design. Make it pass a gig of traffic, ideally with small packets. Once the design is done, any reproductions should just make sure there's a gige link. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:16 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have considered just putting up a GigE switch and plugging the surge suppressor into two ports and seeing if they light. But that sounds pretty cheap and dirty. Want to see numbers. A laptop talking to another laptop with iperf may end up being the solution. Not sure if there are GigE USB NICS so I could do it all on one laptop or not. Any other ideas?
