Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Not throwing any blame around here. Just trying to help. Like I said, I'm not real worried about GigE on the regular 450 APs... yet. Would be nice to find a solution to this problem so we can eventually run gigabit when the 5GHz finally gets approved for 30MHz channel bandwidth. And of course Cambium get a stable official build done with 30MHz support. Probably not too far off from that at this point though, maybe by the end of the year. Then there's the 450i. And the 450m down the road. The 450i can take 2-pair or 4-pair power. If you're using the aux port for POE output to another radio, then you really need to power it on 4 pairs. The 450m's 60 (or was it 70?) watts will no doubt demand all four pairs. And both need 56VDC. 24/29.5 is fading away.. finally. And I'm guessing Cambium will make the regular 450 AP fade away too. We haven't deployed any 450i. No need yet. Probably just end up jumping to the 450m where we need the capacity. Anyway, my point is, 4-pair power plus the sync pulse + GigE-APC/SS-HV I foresee being bad for 10/100 as well as gigabit. Cambium set it up real nice on the 450i though. It'll take either polarity on each pair. So I suppose you could set it up to put positive on 4/5 & 7/8, negative on 1/2 & 3/6, then maybe 10/100 would still work at least. If you and Forrest want to collaborate on it or something, that would be cool. If you come up with a new GigE-APC prototype to resolve this, I'd be more than willing to give you real world results. Then there will be 1588v2 timing. Which is all fine and good. But I won't be ripping out sync-over-power when this becomes available. But everything is becoming "I wants my netflicks, now!" So I really want every AP having at least two full-time timing sources going forward if possible. On 9/10/2016 4:37 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I am wondering if I need to spin a Cambium only surge suppressor. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps My site is a GigE PowerInjector+Sync. No changes to the jumpers. Took it out of the box, plugged it in. The injector shows 23.9 volts (from a RSD 48 to 24 converter) on PowerA. PowerB has nothing connected. Two 5GHz 450 APs on ports 1 & 2, two 3.6GHz 450 APs on ports 3 & 4. ~225 feet of shielded cable to each radio. I would assume the same. Probably would be worse on 48/56v. I wouldn't expect this on 24V systems though. I believe Matt said his setup is a GigE SyncInjector, GigE-APC-HV's and PTP-450i's, which would definitely require 48-56VDC. 450i's need at least 40 volts at the radio, IIRC. I just confirmed this at another site where we added a GigE PowerInjector+Sync with two 5.7 450 APs and one 3.6 450 AP. Slightly less cable, about 185 feet. The 3.6 AP doesn't have an in-line SS yet. Radio direct to injector port. Ethernet directly to a RB1100AHx2 port. I just powered that AP back up and switched it to negotiate 1000F. Main status page shows 1000Base-T FDX and receiving sync on the power port. MT port shows 1Gbps FDX. No errors. This one is fed similarly, just regulated 24VDC on PowerA. The two 5.7 APs are on older L-com 10/100 suppressors, so obviously I can't test gigabit on those. So yeah, I can pretty much confirm what Matt is seeing. The sync pulse + GigE-APC-HV in line appears to be the culprit. Am I remembering that Chuck said the GigE HV's clamp at 69 volts on all pairs? Seems like that should be enough headroom for 24VDC + the sync pulse. Perhaps the cable length is pushing it over the edge. I believe negotiation takes place on the 10/100 pairs only? Then the radio's PHY has a feature called Ethernet@Wirespeed. If it doesn't see data (or in this case loses I guess) on the 4/5 and/or 7/8 pairs, then it gives up on GigE and falls back to 10/100 negotiation. That's why the link is bouncing at 1Gbps a couple times at boot and then settles on 100 FDX. SS clamps due to the sync pulse. No gigabit for u! On 9/10/2016 4:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Just curious... what voltage are you feeding into the injector? I wonder if maybe if you're starting at 56V, then adding a bit of inductive surge effects due to the cable and sync pulse thing. I could see this surging into 60 volts for sure... not sure where Chuck's suppressors clamp at. -forrest
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I am wondering if I need to spin a Cambium only surge suppressor. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps My site is a GigE PowerInjector+Sync. No changes to the jumpers. Took it out of the box, plugged it in. The injector shows 23.9 volts (from a RSD 48 to 24 converter) on PowerA. PowerB has nothing connected. Two 5GHz 450 APs on ports 1 & 2, two 3.6GHz 450 APs on ports 3 & 4. ~225 feet of shielded cable to each radio. I would assume the same. Probably would be worse on 48/56v. I wouldn't expect this on 24V systems though. I believe Matt said his setup is a GigE SyncInjector, GigE-APC-HV's and PTP-450i's, which would definitely require 48-56VDC. 450i's need at least 40 volts at the radio, IIRC. I just confirmed this at another site where we added a GigE PowerInjector+Sync with two 5.7 450 APs and one 3.6 450 AP. Slightly less cable, about 185 feet. The 3.6 AP doesn't have an in-line SS yet. Radio direct to injector port. Ethernet directly to a RB1100AHx2 port. I just powered that AP back up and switched it to negotiate 1000F. Main status page shows 1000Base-T FDX and receiving sync on the power port. MT port shows 1Gbps FDX. No errors. This one is fed similarly, just regulated 24VDC on PowerA. The two 5.7 APs are on older L-com 10/100 suppressors, so obviously I can't test gigabit on those. So yeah, I can pretty much confirm what Matt is seeing. The sync pulse + GigE-APC-HV in line appears to be the culprit. Am I remembering that Chuck said the GigE HV's clamp at 69 volts on all pairs? Seems like that should be enough headroom for 24VDC + the sync pulse. Perhaps the cable length is pushing it over the edge. I believe negotiation takes place on the 10/100 pairs only? Then the radio's PHY has a feature called Ethernet@Wirespeed. If it doesn't see data (or in this case loses I guess) on the 4/5 and/or 7/8 pairs, then it gives up on GigE and falls back to 10/100 negotiation. That's why the link is bouncing at 1Gbps a couple times at boot and then settles on 100 FDX. SS clamps due to the sync pulse. No gigabit for u! On 9/10/2016 4:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Just curious... what voltage are you feeding into the injector? I wonder if maybe if you're starting at 56V, then adding a bit of inductive surge effects due to the cable and sync pulse thing. I could see this surging into 60 volts for sure... not sure where Chuck's suppressors clamp at. -forrest
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
My site is a GigE PowerInjector+Sync. No changes to the jumpers. Took it out of the box, plugged it in. The injector shows 23.9 volts (from a RSD 48 to 24 converter) on PowerA. PowerB has nothing connected. Two 5GHz 450 APs on ports 1 & 2, two 3.6GHz 450 APs on ports 3 & 4. ~225 feet of shielded cable to each radio. I would assume the same. Probably would be worse on 48/56v. I wouldn't expect this on 24V systems though. I believe Matt said his setup is a GigE SyncInjector, GigE-APC-HV's and PTP-450i's, which would definitely require 48-56VDC. 450i's need at least 40 volts at the radio, IIRC. I just confirmed this at another site where we added a GigE PowerInjector+Sync with two 5.7 450 APs and one 3.6 450 AP. Slightly less cable, about 185 feet. The 3.6 AP doesn't have an in-line SS yet. Radio direct to injector port. Ethernet directly to a RB1100AHx2 port. I just powered that AP back up and switched it to negotiate 1000F. Main status page shows 1000Base-T FDX and receiving sync on the power port. MT port shows 1Gbps FDX. No errors. This one is fed similarly, just regulated 24VDC on PowerA. The two 5.7 APs are on older L-com 10/100 suppressors, so obviously I can't test gigabit on those. So yeah, I can pretty much confirm what Matt is seeing. The sync pulse + GigE-APC-HV in line appears to be the culprit. Am I remembering that Chuck said the GigE HV's clamp at 69 volts on all pairs? Seems like that should be enough headroom for 24VDC + the sync pulse. Perhaps the cable length is pushing it over the edge. I believe negotiation takes place on the 10/100 pairs only? Then the radio's PHY has a feature called Ethernet@Wirespeed. If it doesn't see data (or in this case loses I guess) on the 4/5 and/or 7/8 pairs, then it gives up on GigE and falls back to 10/100 negotiation. That's why the link is bouncing at 1Gbps a couple times at boot and then settles on 100 FDX. SS clamps due to the sync pulse. No gigabit for u! On 9/10/2016 4:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Just curious... what voltage are you feeding into the injector? I wonder if maybe if you're starting at 56V, then adding a bit of inductive surge effects due to the cable and sync pulse thing. I could see this surging into 60 volts for sure... not sure where Chuck's suppressors clamp at. -forrest
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
The suppressors clamp at higher voltages like 90 volts for low energy stuff, if
you dump any real current into the clamp voltage comes down to about 68 volts.
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:30 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Just curious... what voltage are you feeding into the injector?
I wonder if maybe if you're starting at 56V, then adding a bit of inductive
surge effects due to the cable and sync pulse thing. I could see this surging
into 60 volts for sure... not sure where Chuck's suppressors clamp at.
-forrest
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:10 PM, George Skorup wrote:
So, what do you think? Based on my test, it's definitely the sync pulse
disrupting the GigE data, at least on the 7/8 pair I'm guessing.
Is it possible that we have HV marked modules that are in fact not HV? I
assume you have two different assembly lines for regular and HV? Or do you just
do batches of one or the other? Either one would probably rule that out.
It would really suck to have to pull out the SS's to get GigE on the 450 when
we finally get 30MHz channel support. No surge suppression at all scares me.
20MHz channel width really doesn't need gigabit which is why I've never
bothered with it.
Maybe Forrest would be willing to send you one of his new PowerInjector+Sync
modules and a SyncPipe for debugging?
And with the 450i taking power on all four pairs, I could see the sync pulse
causing the SS to clamp on the 10/100 data pairs, too. Meaning 100Mbps won't
work either. Just speculation, but it seems logical.
What else could you do other than let say 90 volts though instead of, what is
it on the HV now, 65 or 70 volts? Or maybe some slightly slower reacting
diodes? But I guess either case opens up the potential (pardon the pun) for
damage.
On 9/9/2016 7:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
You are correct, the POE version adds the transformer.
From: George Skorup
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Uh oh. I figured it out. It was as I suspected. The SS is clamping due to
the sync pulse. Maybe the change that Forrest made with the Rev i0
SyncInjectors/PowerInjector+Sync because of the 450i's finicky handling of the
pulse over long runs? I have no idea. So much for GigE + sync over power I
guess. I don't have any Rev i0 Gigabit SyncInjectors to test with, but I assume
I'd get the same result.
I set the AP back to negotiate GigE. Turned off the sync on the injector
port feeding that radio. Rebooted the AP. Link stays up at gigabit with no
problems. Then I turned the sync pulse back on and the link dropped almost
instantly.
18:33:42 interface,info ether6 link down
18:33:49 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
18:33:53 interface,info ether6 link down
18:33:55 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
sync pulse back on
18:35:31 interface,info ether6 link down
18:35:34 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
18:35:35 interface,info ether6 link down
18:35:42 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
18:35:43 interface,info ether6 link down
18:35:46 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
18:35:47 interface,info ether6 link down
18:35:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex)
The GigE-APC's I have at this site are definitely HV's. That's all I have
ever ordered. They are all marked HV in sharpie on the handle. I'm feeding that
cluster with regulated 24VDC from a RSD150C-24.
On 9/9/2016 6:34 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Uh.. hmm. I have a 5.7 450 sector running at a tower without any
customers on it yet. It's powered and timed from a new GigE PowerInjector+Sync.
GigE-APC-HV at the bottom. No SS on top. ~225 feet of Shireen 1042 cable.
I just logged into it and set it to Auto 1000F/100F/etc. and rebooted.
Does the same shit.
18:14:07 interface,info ether6 link down
18:14:20 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
18:14:21 interface,info ether6 link down
18:14:26 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
18:14:27 interface,info ether6 link down
18:14:30 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
18:14:31 interface,info ether6 link down
18:14:40 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex)
I also just set it back to Auto 100F (disabling gigabit negotiation) and
it does this...
18:21:34 interface,info ether6 link down
18:21:47 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex)
18:21:48 interface,info ether6 link down
18:21:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, fu
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
The one case where we had a customer with the problem try things, they removed the protection from pin 7 and it started behaving itself for a while, but the problem came back. No, everything we make is HV now. We stopped making HV quite some time ago. So if it is clamping spikes on pin 7 it has to be in the 80 volt range. Might have come interaction with cable induction. Yes, by all means I will test with anything anyone sends me. And I can up the voltages. From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 7:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps So, what do you think? Based on my test, it's definitely the sync pulse disrupting the GigE data, at least on the 7/8 pair I'm guessing. Is it possible that we have HV marked modules that are in fact not HV? I assume you have two different assembly lines for regular and HV? Or do you just do batches of one or the other? Either one would probably rule that out. It would really suck to have to pull out the SS's to get GigE on the 450 when we finally get 30MHz channel support. No surge suppression at all scares me. 20MHz channel width really doesn't need gigabit which is why I've never bothered with it. Maybe Forrest would be willing to send you one of his new PowerInjector+Sync modules and a SyncPipe for debugging? And with the 450i taking power on all four pairs, I could see the sync pulse causing the SS to clamp on the 10/100 data pairs, too. Meaning 100Mbps won't work either. Just speculation, but it seems logical. What else could you do other than let say 90 volts though instead of, what is it on the HV now, 65 or 70 volts? Or maybe some slightly slower reacting diodes? But I guess either case opens up the potential (pardon the pun) for damage. On 9/9/2016 7:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: You are correct, the POE version adds the transformer. From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Uh oh. I figured it out. It was as I suspected. The SS is clamping due to the sync pulse. Maybe the change that Forrest made with the Rev i0 SyncInjectors/PowerInjector+Sync because of the 450i's finicky handling of the pulse over long runs? I have no idea. So much for GigE + sync over power I guess. I don't have any Rev i0 Gigabit SyncInjectors to test with, but I assume I'd get the same result. I set the AP back to negotiate GigE. Turned off the sync on the injector port feeding that radio. Rebooted the AP. Link stays up at gigabit with no problems. Then I turned the sync pulse back on and the link dropped almost instantly. 18:33:42 interface,info ether6 link down 18:33:49 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:33:53 interface,info ether6 link down 18:33:55 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) sync pulse back on 18:35:31 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:34 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:35 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:42 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:43 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:46 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:47 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) The GigE-APC's I have at this site are definitely HV's. That's all I have ever ordered. They are all marked HV in sharpie on the handle. I'm feeding that cluster with regulated 24VDC from a RSD150C-24. On 9/9/2016 6:34 PM, George Skorup wrote: Uh.. hmm. I have a 5.7 450 sector running at a tower without any customers on it yet. It's powered and timed from a new GigE PowerInjector+Sync. GigE-APC-HV at the bottom. No SS on top. ~225 feet of Shireen 1042 cable. I just logged into it and set it to Auto 1000F/100F/etc. and rebooted. Does the same shit. 18:14:07 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:20 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:21 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:26 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:27 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:30 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:31 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:40 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) I also just set it back to Auto 100F (disabling gigabit negotiation) and it does this... 18:21:34 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:47 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:21:48 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) So, looks like the boot loader brings it up at 1Gbps, then the config makes it fall back to 100Mbps. This is also the first time that I tr
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Just curious... what voltage are you feeding into the injector? I wonder if maybe if you're starting at 56V, then adding a bit of inductive surge effects due to the cable and sync pulse thing. I could see this surging into 60 volts for sure... not sure where Chuck's suppressors clamp at. -forrest On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:10 PM, George Skorup wrote: > So, what do you think? Based on my test, it's definitely the sync pulse > disrupting the GigE data, at least on the 7/8 pair I'm guessing. > > Is it possible that we have HV marked modules that are in fact not HV? I > assume you have two different assembly lines for regular and HV? Or do you > just do batches of one or the other? Either one would probably rule that > out. > > It would really suck to have to pull out the SS's to get GigE on the 450 > when we finally get 30MHz channel support. No surge suppression at all > scares me. 20MHz channel width really doesn't need gigabit which is why > I've never bothered with it. > > Maybe Forrest would be willing to send you one of his new > PowerInjector+Sync modules and a SyncPipe for debugging? > > And with the 450i taking power on all four pairs, I could see the sync > pulse causing the SS to clamp on the 10/100 data pairs, too. Meaning > 100Mbps won't work either. Just speculation, but it seems logical. > > What else could you do other than let say 90 volts though instead of, what > is it on the HV now, 65 or 70 volts? Or maybe some slightly slower reacting > diodes? But I guess either case opens up the potential (pardon the pun) for > damage. > > > On 9/9/2016 7:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > You are correct, the POE version adds the transformer. > > *From:* George Skorup > *Sent:* Friday, September 09, 2016 5:51 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > Uh oh. I figured it out. It was as I suspected. The SS is clamping due to > the sync pulse. Maybe the change that Forrest made with the Rev i0 > SyncInjectors/PowerInjector+Sync because of the 450i's finicky handling > of the pulse over long runs? I have no idea. So much for GigE + sync over > power I guess. I don't have any Rev i0 Gigabit SyncInjectors to test with, > but I assume I'd get the same result. > > I set the AP back to negotiate GigE. Turned off the sync on the injector > port feeding that radio. Rebooted the AP. Link stays up at gigabit with no > problems. Then I turned the sync pulse back on and the link dropped almost > instantly. > > 18:33:42 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:33:49 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:33:53 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:33:55 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > > sync pulse back on > > 18:35:31 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:35:34 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:35:35 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:35:42 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:35:43 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:35:46 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:35:47 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:35:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) > > The GigE-APC's I have at this site are definitely HV's. That's all I have > ever ordered. They are all marked HV in sharpie on the handle. I'm feeding > that cluster with regulated 24VDC from a RSD150C-24. > > On 9/9/2016 6:34 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > Uh.. hmm. I have a 5.7 450 sector running at a tower without any customers > on it yet. It's powered and timed from a new GigE PowerInjector+Sync. > GigE-APC-HV at the bottom. No SS on top. ~225 feet of Shireen 1042 cable. > > I just logged into it and set it to Auto 1000F/100F/etc. and rebooted. > Does the same shit. > > 18:14:07 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:14:20 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:14:21 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:14:26 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:14:27 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:14:30 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:14:31 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:14:40 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) > > I also just set it back to Auto 100F (disabling gigabit negotiation) and > it does this... > > 18:21:34 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:21:47 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:21:48 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:21:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) > > So, looks like the boot loader brings it up at 1Gbps, then the config > makes it fall back to 100Mbps.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Actually the change I made should have made this better, not worse I've rounded the pulse off so it is less spikey. On Sep 9, 2016 5:51 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Uh oh. I figured it out. It was as I suspected. The SS is clamping due to > the sync pulse. Maybe the change that Forrest made with the Rev i0 > SyncInjectors/PowerInjector+Sync because of the 450i's finicky handling > of the pulse over long runs? I have no idea. So much for GigE + sync over > power I guess. I don't have any Rev i0 Gigabit SyncInjectors to test with, > but I assume I'd get the same result. > > I set the AP back to negotiate GigE. Turned off the sync on the injector > port feeding that radio. Rebooted the AP. Link stays up at gigabit with no > problems. Then I turned the sync pulse back on and the link dropped almost > instantly. > > 18:33:42 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:33:49 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:33:53 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:33:55 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > > sync pulse back on > > 18:35:31 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:35:34 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:35:35 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:35:42 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:35:43 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:35:46 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:35:47 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:35:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) > > The GigE-APC's I have at this site are definitely HV's. That's all I have > ever ordered. They are all marked HV in sharpie on the handle. I'm feeding > that cluster with regulated 24VDC from a RSD150C-24. > > On 9/9/2016 6:34 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > Uh.. hmm. I have a 5.7 450 sector running at a tower without any customers > on it yet. It's powered and timed from a new GigE PowerInjector+Sync. > GigE-APC-HV at the bottom. No SS on top. ~225 feet of Shireen 1042 cable. > > I just logged into it and set it to Auto 1000F/100F/etc. and rebooted. > Does the same shit. > > 18:14:07 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:14:20 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:14:21 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:14:26 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:14:27 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:14:30 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:14:31 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:14:40 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) > > I also just set it back to Auto 100F (disabling gigabit negotiation) and > it does this... > > 18:21:34 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:21:47 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 18:21:48 interface,info ether6 link down > 18:21:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) > > So, looks like the boot loader brings it up at 1Gbps, then the config > makes it fall back to 100Mbps. > > This is also the first time that I tried messing with GigE on the 450 > since updating from 13.2.1 to 14.1.2. > > This is a regular old RB1100. I have an Exalt ExtendAir G2-11 and an AF24 > each running on a GigE-POE-APC and gigabit works fine. Chuck would have to > say for sure, but I don't think there's much electrical difference between > the GigE-APC-HV and the GigE-POE-APC. Besides maybe the gas-tube backup > suppression and GigE transformer. > > Me thinks this has more to do with Cambium. > > On 9/9/2016 6:10 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > I upgraded two CRS125-24G-1S-RM's to 6.36.3 (current branch). Both brand > new out of the boxes. Upgraded boot firmware to 3.33 on both. Reset both to > defaults. Ether24 to ether24 linked up at 1Gbps FDX. Ran MT bandwidth tests > between them. No issues. > > Then I put a GigE-APC-HV in between with a 50' patch cable on one side and > a 10' on the other side. Tried with and without the ground attached. Ran > more bandwidth tests. No link drops. No errors. > > So... I have no idea why you're having problems. The ones I have are > definitely HV Rev A1's. > > On 9/9/2016 2:24 PM, Matt wrote: > > I have a couple CRS125's on my bench that I can mess with this afternoon if > I have time. > > Do you have a GigEAPC-HV? My setup was CRS125 -<~50 foot > UTP>--<20 foot UTP>- CRS125 > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
So, what do you think? Based on my test, it's definitely the sync pulse disrupting the GigE data, at least on the 7/8 pair I'm guessing. Is it possible that we have HV marked modules that are in fact not HV? I assume you have two different assembly lines for regular and HV? Or do you just do batches of one or the other? Either one would probably rule that out. It would really suck to have to pull out the SS's to get GigE on the 450 when we finally get 30MHz channel support. No surge suppression at all scares me. 20MHz channel width really doesn't need gigabit which is why I've never bothered with it. Maybe Forrest would be willing to send you one of his new PowerInjector+Sync modules and a SyncPipe for debugging? And with the 450i taking power on all four pairs, I could see the sync pulse causing the SS to clamp on the 10/100 data pairs, too. Meaning 100Mbps won't work either. Just speculation, but it seems logical. What else could you do other than let say 90 volts though instead of, what is it on the HV now, 65 or 70 volts? Or maybe some slightly slower reacting diodes? But I guess either case opens up the potential (pardon the pun) for damage. On 9/9/2016 7:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: You are correct, the POE version adds the transformer. *From:* George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com> *Sent:* Friday, September 09, 2016 5:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Uh oh. I figured it out. It was as I suspected. The SS is clamping due to the sync pulse. Maybe the change that Forrest made with the Rev i0 SyncInjectors/PowerInjector+Sync because of the 450i's finicky handling of the pulse over long runs? I have no idea. So much for GigE + sync over power I guess. I don't have any Rev i0 Gigabit SyncInjectors to test with, but I assume I'd get the same result. I set the AP back to negotiate GigE. Turned off the sync on the injector port feeding that radio. Rebooted the AP. Link stays up at gigabit with no problems. Then I turned the sync pulse back on and the link dropped almost instantly. 18:33:42 interface,info ether6 link down 18:33:49 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:33:53 interface,info ether6 link down 18:33:55 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) sync pulse back on 18:35:31 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:34 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:35 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:42 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:43 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:46 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:47 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) The GigE-APC's I have at this site are definitely HV's. That's all I have ever ordered. They are all marked HV in sharpie on the handle. I'm feeding that cluster with regulated 24VDC from a RSD150C-24. On 9/9/2016 6:34 PM, George Skorup wrote: Uh.. hmm. I have a 5.7 450 sector running at a tower without any customers on it yet. It's powered and timed from a new GigE PowerInjector+Sync. GigE-APC-HV at the bottom. No SS on top. ~225 feet of Shireen 1042 cable. I just logged into it and set it to Auto 1000F/100F/etc. and rebooted. Does the same shit. 18:14:07 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:20 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:21 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:26 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:27 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:30 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:31 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:40 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) I also just set it back to Auto 100F (disabling gigabit negotiation) and it does this... 18:21:34 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:47 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:21:48 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) So, looks like the boot loader brings it up at 1Gbps, then the config makes it fall back to 100Mbps. This is also the first time that I tried messing with GigE on the 450 since updating from 13.2.1 to 14.1.2. This is a regular old RB1100. I have an Exalt ExtendAir G2-11 and an AF24 each running on a GigE-POE-APC and gigabit works fine. Chuck would have to say for sure, but I don't think there's much electrical difference between the GigE-APC-HV and the GigE-POE-APC. Besides maybe the gas-tube backup suppression and GigE transformer. Me thinks this has more to do with Cambium. On 9/9/2016 6:10 PM, George Skorup wrote: I upgraded two CRS125-24G-1S-RM's to 6.36.3 (current branch). Both brand new out of the boxes. Upgraded boot firmware to 3.33 on both. Reset both to defaults. Ether24 to eth
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
You are correct, the POE version adds the transformer. From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Uh oh. I figured it out. It was as I suspected. The SS is clamping due to the sync pulse. Maybe the change that Forrest made with the Rev i0 SyncInjectors/PowerInjector+Sync because of the 450i's finicky handling of the pulse over long runs? I have no idea. So much for GigE + sync over power I guess. I don't have any Rev i0 Gigabit SyncInjectors to test with, but I assume I'd get the same result. I set the AP back to negotiate GigE. Turned off the sync on the injector port feeding that radio. Rebooted the AP. Link stays up at gigabit with no problems. Then I turned the sync pulse back on and the link dropped almost instantly. 18:33:42 interface,info ether6 link down 18:33:49 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:33:53 interface,info ether6 link down 18:33:55 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) sync pulse back on 18:35:31 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:34 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:35 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:42 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:43 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:46 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:47 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) The GigE-APC's I have at this site are definitely HV's. That's all I have ever ordered. They are all marked HV in sharpie on the handle. I'm feeding that cluster with regulated 24VDC from a RSD150C-24. On 9/9/2016 6:34 PM, George Skorup wrote: Uh.. hmm. I have a 5.7 450 sector running at a tower without any customers on it yet. It's powered and timed from a new GigE PowerInjector+Sync. GigE-APC-HV at the bottom. No SS on top. ~225 feet of Shireen 1042 cable. I just logged into it and set it to Auto 1000F/100F/etc. and rebooted. Does the same shit. 18:14:07 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:20 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:21 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:26 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:27 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:30 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:31 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:40 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) I also just set it back to Auto 100F (disabling gigabit negotiation) and it does this... 18:21:34 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:47 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:21:48 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) So, looks like the boot loader brings it up at 1Gbps, then the config makes it fall back to 100Mbps. This is also the first time that I tried messing with GigE on the 450 since updating from 13.2.1 to 14.1.2. This is a regular old RB1100. I have an Exalt ExtendAir G2-11 and an AF24 each running on a GigE-POE-APC and gigabit works fine. Chuck would have to say for sure, but I don't think there's much electrical difference between the GigE-APC-HV and the GigE-POE-APC. Besides maybe the gas-tube backup suppression and GigE transformer. Me thinks this has more to do with Cambium. On 9/9/2016 6:10 PM, George Skorup wrote: I upgraded two CRS125-24G-1S-RM's to 6.36.3 (current branch). Both brand new out of the boxes. Upgraded boot firmware to 3.33 on both. Reset both to defaults. Ether24 to ether24 linked up at 1Gbps FDX. Ran MT bandwidth tests between them. No issues. Then I put a GigE-APC-HV in between with a 50' patch cable on one side and a 10' on the other side. Tried with and without the ground attached. Ran more bandwidth tests. No link drops. No errors. So... I have no idea why you're having problems. The ones I have are definitely HV Rev A1's. On 9/9/2016 2:24 PM, Matt wrote: I have a couple CRS125's on my bench that I can mess with this afternoon if I have time. Do you have a GigEAPC-HV? My setup was CRS125 -<~50 foot UTP>--<20 foot UTP>- CRS125
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Uh oh. I figured it out. It was as I suspected. The SS is clamping due to the sync pulse. Maybe the change that Forrest made with the Rev i0 SyncInjectors/PowerInjector+Sync because of the 450i's finicky handling of the pulse over long runs? I have no idea. So much for GigE + sync over power I guess. I don't have any Rev i0 Gigabit SyncInjectors to test with, but I assume I'd get the same result. I set the AP back to negotiate GigE. Turned off the sync on the injector port feeding that radio. Rebooted the AP. Link stays up at gigabit with no problems. Then I turned the sync pulse back on and the link dropped almost instantly. 18:33:42 interface,info ether6 link down 18:33:49 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:33:53 interface,info ether6 link down 18:33:55 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) sync pulse back on 18:35:31 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:34 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:35 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:42 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:43 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:46 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:35:47 interface,info ether6 link down 18:35:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) The GigE-APC's I have at this site are definitely HV's. That's all I have ever ordered. They are all marked HV in sharpie on the handle. I'm feeding that cluster with regulated 24VDC from a RSD150C-24. On 9/9/2016 6:34 PM, George Skorup wrote: Uh.. hmm. I have a 5.7 450 sector running at a tower without any customers on it yet. It's powered and timed from a new GigE PowerInjector+Sync. GigE-APC-HV at the bottom. No SS on top. ~225 feet of Shireen 1042 cable. I just logged into it and set it to Auto 1000F/100F/etc. and rebooted. Does the same shit. 18:14:07 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:20 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:21 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:26 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:27 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:30 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:31 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:40 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) I also just set it back to Auto 100F (disabling gigabit negotiation) and it does this... 18:21:34 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:47 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:21:48 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) So, looks like the boot loader brings it up at 1Gbps, then the config makes it fall back to 100Mbps. This is also the first time that I tried messing with GigE on the 450 since updating from 13.2.1 to 14.1.2. This is a regular old RB1100. I have an Exalt ExtendAir G2-11 and an AF24 each running on a GigE-POE-APC and gigabit works fine. Chuck would have to say for sure, but I don't think there's much electrical difference between the GigE-APC-HV and the GigE-POE-APC. Besides maybe the gas-tube backup suppression and GigE transformer. Me thinks this has more to do with Cambium. On 9/9/2016 6:10 PM, George Skorup wrote: I upgraded two CRS125-24G-1S-RM's to 6.36.3 (current branch). Both brand new out of the boxes. Upgraded boot firmware to 3.33 on both. Reset both to defaults. Ether24 to ether24 linked up at 1Gbps FDX. Ran MT bandwidth tests between them. No issues. Then I put a GigE-APC-HV in between with a 50' patch cable on one side and a 10' on the other side. Tried with and without the ground attached. Ran more bandwidth tests. No link drops. No errors. So... I have no idea why you're having problems. The ones I have are definitely HV Rev A1's. On 9/9/2016 2:24 PM, Matt wrote: I have a couple CRS125's on my bench that I can mess with this afternoon if I have time. Do you have a GigEAPC-HV? My setup was CRS125 -<~50 foot UTP>--<20 foot UTP>- CRS125
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Uh.. hmm. I have a 5.7 450 sector running at a tower without any customers on it yet. It's powered and timed from a new GigE PowerInjector+Sync. GigE-APC-HV at the bottom. No SS on top. ~225 feet of Shireen 1042 cable. I just logged into it and set it to Auto 1000F/100F/etc. and rebooted. Does the same shit. 18:14:07 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:20 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:21 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:26 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:27 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:30 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:14:31 interface,info ether6 link down 18:14:40 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) I also just set it back to Auto 100F (disabling gigabit negotiation) and it does this... 18:21:34 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:47 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 18:21:48 interface,info ether6 link down 18:21:52 interface,info ether6 link up (speed 100M, full duplex) So, looks like the boot loader brings it up at 1Gbps, then the config makes it fall back to 100Mbps. This is also the first time that I tried messing with GigE on the 450 since updating from 13.2.1 to 14.1.2. This is a regular old RB1100. I have an Exalt ExtendAir G2-11 and an AF24 each running on a GigE-POE-APC and gigabit works fine. Chuck would have to say for sure, but I don't think there's much electrical difference between the GigE-APC-HV and the GigE-POE-APC. Besides maybe the gas-tube backup suppression and GigE transformer. Me thinks this has more to do with Cambium. On 9/9/2016 6:10 PM, George Skorup wrote: I upgraded two CRS125-24G-1S-RM's to 6.36.3 (current branch). Both brand new out of the boxes. Upgraded boot firmware to 3.33 on both. Reset both to defaults. Ether24 to ether24 linked up at 1Gbps FDX. Ran MT bandwidth tests between them. No issues. Then I put a GigE-APC-HV in between with a 50' patch cable on one side and a 10' on the other side. Tried with and without the ground attached. Ran more bandwidth tests. No link drops. No errors. So... I have no idea why you're having problems. The ones I have are definitely HV Rev A1's. On 9/9/2016 2:24 PM, Matt wrote: I have a couple CRS125's on my bench that I can mess with this afternoon if I have time. Do you have a GigEAPC-HV? My setup was CRS125 -<~50 foot UTP>--<20 foot UTP>- CRS125
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I upgraded two CRS125-24G-1S-RM's to 6.36.3 (current branch). Both brand new out of the boxes. Upgraded boot firmware to 3.33 on both. Reset both to defaults. Ether24 to ether24 linked up at 1Gbps FDX. Ran MT bandwidth tests between them. No issues. Then I put a GigE-APC-HV in between with a 50' patch cable on one side and a 10' on the other side. Tried with and without the ground attached. Ran more bandwidth tests. No link drops. No errors. So... I have no idea why you're having problems. The ones I have are definitely HV Rev A1's. On 9/9/2016 2:24 PM, Matt wrote: I have a couple CRS125's on my bench that I can mess with this afternoon if I have time. Do you have a GigEAPC-HV? My setup was CRS125 -<~50 foot UTP>--<20 foot UTP>- CRS125
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I will test with anyone that wants to loan me gear. I really don't want to keep buying every possible combination. The dedicated ethernet test equipment never shows a problem. Actually, so far, I have not found a problem that was unrelated to the occasional failure during manufacturing inspection. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 9:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Ouch. I sell probably 1000 of these a month. I have heard a similar story a couple of times. Did my own lab replication and did not find anything wrong. It always has to do with Cambium. No idea yet what may be happening. We have a lot of these deployed. Really only needing 1000base on our PTP450i units when we use wider channels. Have you tested with a Mikrotik CRS? I fail to get 1000base from Mikrotik CRS to CRS with them as well. I am currently testing an ePMP powered off a Netonix switch with 65’ of cable to the GigE-APC surge suppressor and then 165’ to the AP. Rock solid at Gige. Everything looks good. Have you tried to cut and isolate. Say with a Cambium power supply and a laptop. Start at the AP and work your way back adding components until you find what is causing it to break? I know that now and then the pins in the RJ45s in the surge suppressors and other components can get a bit contaminated and some alcohol and a q tip will fix the problem. Went back today. I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. Removed the GigEAPC HV and replaced with a Monoprice RJ-45 coupler. Linked and stayed up at 1gbps. Put the GigeAPC back in. Mikrotik logs show. 15:51:53 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:55 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:56 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:58 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:59 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:01 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:02 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:04 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:05 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:07 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:08 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:09 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 100M, full duplex) In the end it gives up and goes back too 100M. Also, have Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S -> thirty foot of unshielded cat-5e -> GigEAPC-HV -> Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S It will only link at 100M also but if I remove the GigEAPC and replace with monoprice RJ45 coupler it links and stays at 1Gbps. Both routers on latest firmware and stable/current ROS. Have tried different GigEAPC units, new ends and have checked that everything is grounded correctly to electrical ground. Ideas? From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Was anything ever found out with this? I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. Both the 450i and CRS have gigabit enabled in settings. On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:25 PM, wrote: No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but normally that is not an issue. Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the cambium unit. They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out. Something that is not related to surge suppression. In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring continuity and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual inspections are not revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned... From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Replaced This …… With This ……. On same ground point and got This …… :-) Except I want this to work ……. L Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… Steve From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
> I have a couple CRS125's on my bench that I can mess with this afternoon if > I have time. Do you have a GigEAPC-HV? My setup was CRS125 -<~50 foot UTP>--<20 foot UTP>- CRS125 >>> Ouch. I sell probably 1000 of these a month. I have heard a similar >>> story >>> a couple of times. Did my own lab replication and did not find anything >>> wrong. It always has to do with Cambium. No idea yet what may be >>> happening. >> >> We have a lot of these deployed. Really only needing 1000base on our >> PTP450i units when we use wider channels. >> >> Have you tested with a Mikrotik CRS? I fail to get 1000base from >> Mikrotik CRS to CRS with them as well. >> >> >> >>>> I am currently testing an ePMP powered off a Netonix switch with 65’ of >>>> cable to the GigE-APC surge suppressor and then 165’ to the AP. >>>> Rock solid at Gige. Everything looks good. >>>> >>>> Have you tried to cut and isolate. Say with a Cambium power supply and >>>> a >>>> laptop. >>>> Start at the AP and work your way back adding components until you find >>>> what is causing it to break? >>>> >>>> I know that now and then the pins in the RJ45s in the surge suppressors >>>> and other components can get a bit contaminated and some alcohol and a q >>>> tip >>>> will fix the problem. >>> >>> >>> Went back today. >>> >>>>>> I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > >>>>>> GigEAPC >>>>>> HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. >>> >>> >>> Removed the GigEAPC HV and replaced with a Monoprice RJ-45 coupler. >>> Linked and stayed up at 1gbps. Put the GigeAPC back in. Mikrotik >>> logs show. >>> >>> 15:51:53 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:51:55 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:51:56 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:51:58 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:51:59 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:52:01 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:52:02 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:52:04 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:52:05 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:52:07 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:52:08 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:52:09 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 100M, full >>> duplex) >>> >>> In the end it gives up and goes back too 100M. >>> >>> Also, have Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S -> thirty foot of unshielded cat-5e >>> -> GigEAPC-HV -> Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S >>> >>> It will only link at 100M also but if I remove the GigEAPC and replace >>> with monoprice RJ45 coupler it links and stays at 1Gbps. Both routers >>> on latest firmware and stable/current ROS. >>> >>> Have tried different GigEAPC units, new ends and have checked that >>> everything is grounded correctly to electrical ground. >>> >>> Ideas? >>> >>> >>>> From: Matt >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:26 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running >>>> 100Mbps >>>> >>>> Was anything ever found out with this? I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > >>>> PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > >>>> PMP450i. >>>> Will not do 1000base. Both the 450i and CRS have gigabit enabled in >>>> settings. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:25 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. >>>>> >>>>> I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown >>>>> voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to >>>>> ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit >>>>> but >>>>> normally that is not an issue. >>>>> >>>>> Pin to pin and pin to
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I wonder what happens when the Mikrotik ethernet link advertisements are set to 1000M/half and 1000M/full only on the problematic interfaces. On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:00 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I have a couple CRS125's on my bench that I can mess with this afternoon if > I have time. > > > On 9/9/2016 10:04 AM, Matt wrote: >>> >>> Ouch. I sell probably 1000 of these a month. I have heard a similar >>> story >>> a couple of times. Did my own lab replication and did not find anything >>> wrong. It always has to do with Cambium. No idea yet what may be >>> happening. >> >> We have a lot of these deployed. Really only needing 1000base on our >> PTP450i units when we use wider channels. >> >> Have you tested with a Mikrotik CRS? I fail to get 1000base from >> Mikrotik CRS to CRS with them as well. >> >> >> >>>> I am currently testing an ePMP powered off a Netonix switch with 65’ of >>>> cable to the GigE-APC surge suppressor and then 165’ to the AP. >>>> Rock solid at Gige. Everything looks good. >>>> >>>> Have you tried to cut and isolate. Say with a Cambium power supply and >>>> a >>>> laptop. >>>> Start at the AP and work your way back adding components until you find >>>> what is causing it to break? >>>> >>>> I know that now and then the pins in the RJ45s in the surge suppressors >>>> and other components can get a bit contaminated and some alcohol and a q >>>> tip >>>> will fix the problem. >>> >>> >>> Went back today. >>> >>>>>> I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > >>>>>> GigEAPC >>>>>> HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. >>> >>> >>> Removed the GigEAPC HV and replaced with a Monoprice RJ-45 coupler. >>> Linked and stayed up at 1gbps. Put the GigeAPC back in. Mikrotik >>> logs show. >>> >>> 15:51:53 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:51:55 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:51:56 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:51:58 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:51:59 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:52:01 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:52:02 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:52:04 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:52:05 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:52:07 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full >>> duplex) >>> 15:52:08 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >>> 15:52:09 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 100M, full >>> duplex) >>> >>> In the end it gives up and goes back too 100M. >>> >>> Also, have Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S -> thirty foot of unshielded cat-5e >>> -> GigEAPC-HV -> Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S >>> >>> It will only link at 100M also but if I remove the GigEAPC and replace >>> with monoprice RJ45 coupler it links and stays at 1Gbps. Both routers >>> on latest firmware and stable/current ROS. >>> >>> Have tried different GigEAPC units, new ends and have checked that >>> everything is grounded correctly to electrical ground. >>> >>> Ideas? >>> >>> >>>> From: Matt >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:26 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running >>>> 100Mbps >>>> >>>> Was anything ever found out with this? I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > >>>> PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > >>>> PMP450i. >>>> Will not do 1000base. Both the 450i and CRS have gigabit enabled in >>>> settings. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:25 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. >>>>> >>>>> I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown >>>>> voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to >>>>> ground. Tra
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I have a couple CRS125's on my bench that I can mess with this afternoon if I have time. On 9/9/2016 10:04 AM, Matt wrote: Ouch. I sell probably 1000 of these a month. I have heard a similar story a couple of times. Did my own lab replication and did not find anything wrong. It always has to do with Cambium. No idea yet what may be happening. We have a lot of these deployed. Really only needing 1000base on our PTP450i units when we use wider channels. Have you tested with a Mikrotik CRS? I fail to get 1000base from Mikrotik CRS to CRS with them as well. I am currently testing an ePMP powered off a Netonix switch with 65’ of cable to the GigE-APC surge suppressor and then 165’ to the AP. Rock solid at Gige. Everything looks good. Have you tried to cut and isolate. Say with a Cambium power supply and a laptop. Start at the AP and work your way back adding components until you find what is causing it to break? I know that now and then the pins in the RJ45s in the surge suppressors and other components can get a bit contaminated and some alcohol and a q tip will fix the problem. Went back today. I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. Removed the GigEAPC HV and replaced with a Monoprice RJ-45 coupler. Linked and stayed up at 1gbps. Put the GigeAPC back in. Mikrotik logs show. 15:51:53 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:55 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:56 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:58 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:59 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:01 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:02 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:04 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:05 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:07 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:08 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:09 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 100M, full duplex) In the end it gives up and goes back too 100M. Also, have Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S -> thirty foot of unshielded cat-5e -> GigEAPC-HV -> Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S It will only link at 100M also but if I remove the GigEAPC and replace with monoprice RJ45 coupler it links and stays at 1Gbps. Both routers on latest firmware and stable/current ROS. Have tried different GigEAPC units, new ends and have checked that everything is grounded correctly to electrical ground. Ideas? From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Was anything ever found out with this? I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. Both the 450i and CRS have gigabit enabled in settings. On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:25 PM, wrote: No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but normally that is not an issue. Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the cambium unit. They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out. Something that is not related to surge suppression. In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring continuity and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual inspections are not revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned... From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Replaced This …… With This ……. On same ground point and got This …… :-) Except I want this to work ……. L Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… Steve From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
> Ouch. I sell probably 1000 of these a month. I have heard a similar story > a couple of times. Did my own lab replication and did not find anything > wrong. It always has to do with Cambium. No idea yet what may be > happening. We have a lot of these deployed. Really only needing 1000base on our PTP450i units when we use wider channels. Have you tested with a Mikrotik CRS? I fail to get 1000base from Mikrotik CRS to CRS with them as well. > >> I am currently testing an ePMP powered off a Netonix switch with 65’ of >> cable to the GigE-APC surge suppressor and then 165’ to the AP. >> Rock solid at Gige. Everything looks good. >> >> Have you tried to cut and isolate. Say with a Cambium power supply and a >> laptop. >> Start at the AP and work your way back adding components until you find >> what is causing it to break? >> >> I know that now and then the pins in the RJ45s in the surge suppressors >> and other components can get a bit contaminated and some alcohol and a q tip >> will fix the problem. > > > Went back today. > >>>> I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC >>>> HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. > > > Removed the GigEAPC HV and replaced with a Monoprice RJ-45 coupler. > Linked and stayed up at 1gbps. Put the GigeAPC back in. Mikrotik > logs show. > > 15:51:53 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down > 15:51:55 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 15:51:56 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down > 15:51:58 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 15:51:59 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down > 15:52:01 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 15:52:02 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down > 15:52:04 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 15:52:05 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down > 15:52:07 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) > 15:52:08 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down > 15:52:09 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 100M, full duplex) > > In the end it gives up and goes back too 100M. > > Also, have Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S -> thirty foot of unshielded cat-5e > -> GigEAPC-HV -> Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S > > It will only link at 100M also but if I remove the GigEAPC and replace > with monoprice RJ45 coupler it links and stays at 1Gbps. Both routers > on latest firmware and stable/current ROS. > > Have tried different GigEAPC units, new ends and have checked that > everything is grounded correctly to electrical ground. > > Ideas? > > >> From: Matt >> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:26 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps >> >> Was anything ever found out with this? I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > >> PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. >> Will not do 1000base. Both the 450i and CRS have gigabit enabled in >> settings. >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:25 PM, wrote: >>> >>> >>> No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. >>> >>> I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown >>> voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to >>> ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but >>> normally that is not an issue. >>> >>> Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the >>> cambium unit. >>> >>> They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out. >>> Something that is not related to surge suppression. >>> >>> In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium >>> unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring >>> continuity and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual >>> inspections are not revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues >>> >>> A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned... >>> >>> From: Wireless Administrator >>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps >>> >>> >>> Replaced This …… >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> With This ……. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On sam
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Ouch. I sell probably 1000 of these a month. I have heard a similar story a couple of times. Did my own lab replication and did not find anything wrong. It always has to do with Cambium. No idea yet what may be happening. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps I am currently testing an ePMP powered off a Netonix switch with 65’ of cable to the GigE-APC surge suppressor and then 165’ to the AP. Rock solid at Gige. Everything looks good. Have you tried to cut and isolate. Say with a Cambium power supply and a laptop. Start at the AP and work your way back adding components until you find what is causing it to break? I know that now and then the pins in the RJ45s in the surge suppressors and other components can get a bit contaminated and some alcohol and a q tip will fix the problem. Went back today. I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. Removed the GigEAPC HV and replaced with a Monoprice RJ-45 coupler. Linked and stayed up at 1gbps. Put the GigeAPC back in. Mikrotik logs show. 15:51:53 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:55 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:56 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:58 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:59 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:01 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:02 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:04 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:05 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:07 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:08 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:09 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 100M, full duplex) In the end it gives up and goes back too 100M. Also, have Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S -> thirty foot of unshielded cat-5e -> GigEAPC-HV -> Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S It will only link at 100M also but if I remove the GigEAPC and replace with monoprice RJ45 coupler it links and stays at 1Gbps. Both routers on latest firmware and stable/current ROS. Have tried different GigEAPC units, new ends and have checked that everything is grounded correctly to electrical ground. Ideas? From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Was anything ever found out with this? I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. Both the 450i and CRS have gigabit enabled in settings. On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:25 PM, wrote: No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but normally that is not an issue. Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the cambium unit. They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out. Something that is not related to surge suppression. In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring continuity and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual inspections are not revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned... From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Replaced This …… With This ……. On same ground point and got This …… :-) Except I want this to work ……. L Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… Steve From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
is the mikrotik bonded to the ground the SS is directly?? On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:21 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I have several sites with GigE-APC-HV's and GigE-POE-APC's that run GigE > with no issues, other than them clamping during thunderstorms and cause > some CRC errors which is perfectly acceptable. 450's, licensed radios. All > kinds of stuff. No 450i APs though. Well, most of the 450s I just leave at > the default Auto 100F/100H/10F/10H since there's no real reason for gigabit > until we get 30MHz channel support. But I have tested it with Forrest's new > GigE PowerInjector+Sync injectors and it does work fine. > > The only thing I can think of is to try turning off the sync pulse on the > SyncInjector and see what you get. Per port via software, or just unplug > the SyncPipe if you're on site. > > On 9/8/2016 6:30 PM, Matt wrote: > >> I am currently testing an ePMP powered off a Netonix switch with 65’ of >>> cable to the GigE-APC surge suppressor and then 165’ to the AP. >>> Rock solid at Gige. Everything looks good. >>> >>> Have you tried to cut and isolate. Say with a Cambium power supply and >>> a laptop. >>> Start at the AP and work your way back adding components until you find >>> what is causing it to break? >>> >>> I know that now and then the pins in the RJ45s in the surge suppressors >>> and other components can get a bit contaminated and some alcohol and a q >>> tip will fix the problem. >>> >> Went back today. >> >> I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC > HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. > Removed the GigEAPC HV and replaced with a Monoprice RJ-45 coupler. >> Linked and stayed up at 1gbps. Put the GigeAPC back in. Mikrotik >> logs show. >> >> 15:51:53 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >> 15:51:55 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) >> 15:51:56 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >> 15:51:58 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) >> 15:51:59 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >> 15:52:01 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) >> 15:52:02 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >> 15:52:04 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) >> 15:52:05 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >> 15:52:07 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) >> 15:52:08 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down >> 15:52:09 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 100M, full >> duplex) >> >> In the end it gives up and goes back too 100M. >> >> Also, have Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S -> thirty foot of unshielded cat-5e >> -> GigEAPC-HV -> Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S >> >> It will only link at 100M also but if I remove the GigEAPC and replace >> with monoprice RJ45 coupler it links and stays at 1Gbps. Both routers >> on latest firmware and stable/current ROS. >> >> Have tried different GigEAPC units, new ends and have checked that >> everything is grounded correctly to electrical ground. >> >> Ideas? >> > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I have several sites with GigE-APC-HV's and GigE-POE-APC's that run GigE with no issues, other than them clamping during thunderstorms and cause some CRC errors which is perfectly acceptable. 450's, licensed radios. All kinds of stuff. No 450i APs though. Well, most of the 450s I just leave at the default Auto 100F/100H/10F/10H since there's no real reason for gigabit until we get 30MHz channel support. But I have tested it with Forrest's new GigE PowerInjector+Sync injectors and it does work fine. The only thing I can think of is to try turning off the sync pulse on the SyncInjector and see what you get. Per port via software, or just unplug the SyncPipe if you're on site. On 9/8/2016 6:30 PM, Matt wrote: I am currently testing an ePMP powered off a Netonix switch with 65’ of cable to the GigE-APC surge suppressor and then 165’ to the AP. Rock solid at Gige. Everything looks good. Have you tried to cut and isolate. Say with a Cambium power supply and a laptop. Start at the AP and work your way back adding components until you find what is causing it to break? I know that now and then the pins in the RJ45s in the surge suppressors and other components can get a bit contaminated and some alcohol and a q tip will fix the problem. Went back today. I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. Removed the GigEAPC HV and replaced with a Monoprice RJ-45 coupler. Linked and stayed up at 1gbps. Put the GigeAPC back in. Mikrotik logs show. 15:51:53 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:55 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:56 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:58 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:59 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:01 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:02 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:04 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:05 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:07 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:08 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:09 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 100M, full duplex) In the end it gives up and goes back too 100M. Also, have Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S -> thirty foot of unshielded cat-5e -> GigEAPC-HV -> Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S It will only link at 100M also but if I remove the GigEAPC and replace with monoprice RJ45 coupler it links and stays at 1Gbps. Both routers on latest firmware and stable/current ROS. Have tried different GigEAPC units, new ends and have checked that everything is grounded correctly to electrical ground. Ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
> I am currently testing an ePMP powered off a Netonix switch with 65’ of cable > to the GigE-APC surge suppressor and then 165’ to the AP. > Rock solid at Gige. Everything looks good. > > Have you tried to cut and isolate. Say with a Cambium power supply and a > laptop. > Start at the AP and work your way back adding components until you find what > is causing it to break? > > I know that now and then the pins in the RJ45s in the surge suppressors and > other components can get a bit contaminated and some alcohol and a q tip will > fix the problem. Went back today. >>> I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV >>> Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. Will not do 1000base. Removed the GigEAPC HV and replaced with a Monoprice RJ-45 coupler. Linked and stayed up at 1gbps. Put the GigeAPC back in. Mikrotik logs show. 15:51:53 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:55 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:56 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:51:58 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:51:59 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:01 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:02 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:04 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:05 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:07 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 1G, full duplex) 15:52:08 interface,info ether9-slave-local link down 15:52:09 interface,info ether9-slave-local link up (speed 100M, full duplex) In the end it gives up and goes back too 100M. Also, have Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S -> thirty foot of unshielded cat-5e -> GigEAPC-HV -> Mikrotik CRS125-24G-1S It will only link at 100M also but if I remove the GigEAPC and replace with monoprice RJ45 coupler it links and stays at 1Gbps. Both routers on latest firmware and stable/current ROS. Have tried different GigEAPC units, new ends and have checked that everything is grounded correctly to electrical ground. Ideas? > From: Matt > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:26 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps > > Was anything ever found out with this? I have Mikrotik CRS > 52 volts > > PacketFlux Gige SyncInjector > GigEAPC HV Rev A.1 > 100 foot STP > PMP450i. > Will not do 1000base. Both the 450i and CRS have gigabit enabled in settings. > > > > On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:25 PM, wrote: >> >> No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. >> >> I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown >> voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to >> ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but >> normally that is not an issue. >> >> Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the cambium >> unit. >> >> They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out. >> Something that is not related to surge suppression. >> >> In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium unit >> all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring continuity and >> all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual inspections are not >> revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues >> >> A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned... >> >> From: Wireless Administrator >> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps >> >> >> Replaced This …… >> >> >> >> >> >> With This ……. >> >> >> >> >> >> On same ground point and got This …… >> >> >> >> >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> Except I want this to work ……. >> >> >> >> >> >> L >> >> Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] >> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM >> To: 'af@afmug.com' >> Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i >> >> >> >> We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at >> Gigabit speed. >> >> Our setup is as follows: >> >> Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector >> (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ >> Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i >> >> It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). >> >> Anyone ………. >> >> >> >> Steve B. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I've seen less than 20 Canopy radios bad out of the box. Ever. Out of
~3k over the years. Shit happens. They replace them.
On 5/17/2016 3:09 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Considering the cost of the 450 AP or SM, I don't see how you're so
relaxed about that, compared to the quality control on a $120 ATX
motherboard, which is a significantly more complicated PCB than any
450... I know I've never unboxed one and had pieces rattling around
even on the very cheapest.
On May 16, 2016 8:08 PM, "George Skorup" <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
FYI, I got a couple 450 APs (not 450i's) with busted LEDs. One the
power LED simply doesn't light up. The other one is one of the GPS
or session LEDs. Both seemed to work fine, so we said screw it and
installed.
Then we got a new 5GHz 450 SM that wouldn't power up. Tweak the
cable just right and it would come on. I suspect a bad solder
joint on the RJ45. And a new 3GHz SM had a component rattling
around inside. Small surface mount ceramic cap or resistor fell out.
This is probably out of the hundred or so we've bought so far this
year. Not a very high out of box defective rate at all. Just
wanted to mention it. The pessimist in me says they're having some
soldering problems in Mexico. But what do I know.
On 5/16/2016 9:34 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
We’re looking into this Ken… our engineering team is trying to
replicate.
Will update your forum thread with results once figured out.
Matt
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 9:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only
running 100Mbps
No, the reason I’m asking is I’m seeing the LED totally off when
running at 1000 Mbps. Not orange like the user guide says. What
I am seeing on the actual AP is:
10M: red
100M: green
1000M: off, nothing, nada, zilch, dark, devoid of visible radiation
It really screwed me up because I thought there was no link,
until I realized it was working fine at 1000FDX and reporting
1000FDX in the GUI.
*From:*Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
*Sent:*Monday, May 16, 2016 8:51 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only
running 100Mbps
I've seen this a lot - the Intel 1000BaseT server NICs all use
yellow-orange for an active 1000Mbps link, and green for 100Mbps.
Seems counter intuitive but it is sort of a 'standard'.
Such as the i350-T2 and others.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/intel-gigabit-server-adapters/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-series/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-t2.html
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Reynolds
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm
familiar with.
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I have a question while we are on the topic: what color
is the last LED on your 450i AP when it is running at
1000 Mbps? I know it’s green at 100 Mbps, but what about
1000 Mbps? I know the user guide says orange, but is that
what your AP actually does?
*From:*David <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>
*Sent:*Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
only running 100Mbps
I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw
anything at me for not reading the whole thread.
450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios
they are rated for cambium std 29v
This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes
to 48v plant as its base supply.
On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have an idea. Working on an experiment.
*From:*Wireless Administrator <mailto:wirel...@htn.net>
*Sent:*Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium
450i only running 100Mbps
Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure
doesn’t make sense to me. The system continues to
run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the Cambium
units. I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like
this one’s above my pay grade.
Steve B.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Considering the cost of the 450 AP or SM, I don't see how you're so relaxed about that, compared to the quality control on a $120 ATX motherboard, which is a significantly more complicated PCB than any 450... I know I've never unboxed one and had pieces rattling around even on the very cheapest. On May 16, 2016 8:08 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > FYI, I got a couple 450 APs (not 450i's) with busted LEDs. One the power > LED simply doesn't light up. The other one is one of the GPS or session > LEDs. Both seemed to work fine, so we said screw it and installed. > > Then we got a new 5GHz 450 SM that wouldn't power up. Tweak the cable just > right and it would come on. I suspect a bad solder joint on the RJ45. And a > new 3GHz SM had a component rattling around inside. Small surface mount > ceramic cap or resistor fell out. > > This is probably out of the hundred or so we've bought so far this year. > Not a very high out of box defective rate at all. Just wanted to mention > it. The pessimist in me says they're having some soldering problems in > Mexico. But what do I know. > > On 5/16/2016 9:34 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: > > We’re looking into this Ken… our engineering team is trying to replicate. > > > > Will update your forum thread with results once figured out. > > > > Matt > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 9:23 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > > > No, the reason I’m asking is I’m seeing the LED totally off when running > at 1000 Mbps. Not orange like the user guide says. What I am seeing on > the actual AP is: > > > > 10M: red > > 100M: green > > 1000M: off, nothing, nada, zilch, dark, devoid of visible radiation > > > > It really screwed me up because I thought there was no link, until I > realized it was working fine at 1000FDX and reporting 1000FDX in the GUI. > > > > > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 8:51 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > > > I've seen this a lot - the Intel 1000BaseT server NICs all use > yellow-orange for an active 1000Mbps link, and green for 100Mbps. Seems > counter intuitive but it is sort of a 'standard'. > > Such as the i350-T2 and others. > > > > http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/intel-gigabit-server-adapters/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-series/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-t2.html > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > > That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm familiar with. > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I have a question while we are on the topic: what color is the last LED > on your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps? I know it’s green at 100 > Mbps, but what about 1000 Mbps? I know the user guide says orange, but is > that what your AP actually does? > > > > > > *From:* David > > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > > > I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything at me for > not reading the whole thread. > 450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they are rated for > cambium std 29v > This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to 48v plant as > its base supply. > > On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I have an idea. Working on an experiment. > > > > *From:* Wireless Administrator > > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > > > Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure doesn’t make sense to > me. The system continues to run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the > Cambium units. I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like this one’s > above my pay grade. > > > > Steve B. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > ] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > > > No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. > > > > I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown > voltage is about 5 volts to gro
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
FYI, I got a couple 450 APs (not 450i's) with busted LEDs. One the power
LED simply doesn't light up. The other one is one of the GPS or session
LEDs. Both seemed to work fine, so we said screw it and installed.
Then we got a new 5GHz 450 SM that wouldn't power up. Tweak the cable
just right and it would come on. I suspect a bad solder joint on the
RJ45. And a new 3GHz SM had a component rattling around inside. Small
surface mount ceramic cap or resistor fell out.
This is probably out of the hundred or so we've bought so far this year.
Not a very high out of box defective rate at all. Just wanted to mention
it. The pessimist in me says they're having some soldering problems in
Mexico. But what do I know.
On 5/16/2016 9:34 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
We’re looking into this Ken… our engineering team is trying to replicate.
Will update your forum thread with results once figured out.
Matt
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 9:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
100Mbps
No, the reason I’m asking is I’m seeing the LED totally off when
running at 1000 Mbps. Not orange like the user guide says. What I am
seeing on the actual AP is:
10M: red
100M: green
1000M: off, nothing, nada, zilch, dark, devoid of visible radiation
It really screwed me up because I thought there was no link, until I
realized it was working fine at 1000FDX and reporting 1000FDX in the GUI.
*From:*Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
*Sent:*Monday, May 16, 2016 8:51 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
100Mbps
I've seen this a lot - the Intel 1000BaseT server NICs all use
yellow-orange for an active 1000Mbps link, and green for 100Mbps.
Seems counter intuitive but it is sort of a 'standard'.
Such as the i350-T2 and others.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/intel-gigabit-server-adapters/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-series/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-t2.html
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm familiar with.
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I have a question while we are on the topic: what color is
the last LED on your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps?
I know it’s green at 100 Mbps, but what about 1000 Mbps? I
know the user guide says orange, but is that what your AP
actually does?
*From:*David <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>
*Sent:*Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only
running 100Mbps
I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything
at me for not reading the whole thread.
450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they
are rated for cambium std 29v
This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to
48v plant as its base supply.
On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have an idea. Working on an experiment.
*From:*Wireless Administrator <mailto:wirel...@htn.net>
*Sent:*Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
only running 100Mbps
Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure doesn’t
make sense to me. The system continues to run 1000Base-T
Full Duplex here with the Cambium units. I’m sure there
is a reason but it looks like this one’s above my pay grade.
Steve B.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
only running 100Mbps
No Joy. Everything checks out 100%.
I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse
breakdown voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my
unit for single pin to ground. Transverse impulses are
clamped much lower on the cambium unit but normally that
is not an issue.
Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive
loading than the cambium unit.
They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out.
Something that is not related to surge suppression.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Could just be my eyes.
From: Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
We’re looking into this Ken… our engineering team is trying to replicate.
Will update your forum thread with results once figured out.
Matt
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
No, the reason I’m asking is I’m seeing the LED totally off when running at
1000 Mbps. Not orange like the user guide says. What I am seeing on the
actual AP is:
10M: red
100M: green
1000M: off, nothing, nada, zilch, dark, devoid of visible radiation
It really screwed me up because I thought there was no link, until I realized
it was working fine at 1000FDX and reporting 1000FDX in the GUI.
From: Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I've seen this a lot - the Intel 1000BaseT server NICs all use yellow-orange
for an active 1000Mbps link, and green for 100Mbps. Seems counter intuitive but
it is sort of a 'standard'.
Such as the i350-T2 and others.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/intel-gigabit-server-adapters/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-series/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-t2.html
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm familiar with.
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I have a question while we are on the topic: what color is the last LED on
your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps? I know it’s green at 100 Mbps,
but what about 1000 Mbps? I know the user guide says orange, but is that what
your AP actually does?
From: David
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything at me for not
reading the whole thread.
450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they are rated for
cambium std 29v
This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to 48v plant as
its base supply.
On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have an idea. Working on an experiment.
From: Wireless Administrator
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure doesn’t make sense to
me. The system continues to run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the Cambium
units. I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like this one’s above my pay
grade.
Steve B.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
No Joy. Everything checks out 100%.
I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown
voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to ground.
Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but normally
that is not an issue.
Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the
cambium unit.
They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out.
Something that is not related to surge suppression.
In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium
unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring continuity
and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual inspections are not
revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues
A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned...
From: Wireless Administrator
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Replaced This ……
With This …….
On same ground point and got This ……
:-)
Except I want this to work …….
L
Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……
Steve
From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
We’re not able t
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
We’re looking into this Ken… our engineering team is trying to replicate. Will update your forum thread with results once figured out. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps No, the reason I’m asking is I’m seeing the LED totally off when running at 1000 Mbps. Not orange like the user guide says. What I am seeing on the actual AP is: 10M: red 100M: green 1000M: off, nothing, nada, zilch, dark, devoid of visible radiation It really screwed me up because I thought there was no link, until I realized it was working fine at 1000FDX and reporting 1000FDX in the GUI. From: Eric Kuhnke<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:51 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps I've seen this a lot - the Intel 1000BaseT server NICs all use yellow-orange for an active 1000Mbps link, and green for 100Mbps. Seems counter intuitive but it is sort of a 'standard'. Such as the i350-T2 and others. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/intel-gigabit-server-adapters/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-series/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-t2.html On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote: That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm familiar with. On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: I have a question while we are on the topic: what color is the last LED on your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps? I know it’s green at 100 Mbps, but what about 1000 Mbps? I know the user guide says orange, but is that what your AP actually does? From: David<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything at me for not reading the whole thread. 450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they are rated for cambium std 29v This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to 48v plant as its base supply. On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I have an idea. Working on an experiment. From: Wireless Administrator<mailto:wirel...@htn.net> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure doesn’t make sense to me. The system continues to run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the Cambium units. I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like this one’s above my pay grade. Steve B. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but normally that is not an issue. Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the cambium unit. They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out. Something that is not related to surge suppression. In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring continuity and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual inspections are not revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned... From: Wireless Administrator<mailto:wirel...@htn.net> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Replaced This …… With This ……. On same ground point and got This …… :-) Except I want this to work ……. ☹ Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… Steve From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>' Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) -->14’ Cat6 Patch -->Gigabit Sync injector (48V) --> 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded --> 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV --> 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded --> Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
No, the reason I’m asking is I’m seeing the LED totally off when running at
1000 Mbps. Not orange like the user guide says. What I am seeing on the
actual AP is:
10M: red
100M: green
1000M: off, nothing, nada, zilch, dark, devoid of visible radiation
It really screwed me up because I thought there was no link, until I realized
it was working fine at 1000FDX and reporting 1000FDX in the GUI.
From: Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I've seen this a lot - the Intel 1000BaseT server NICs all use yellow-orange
for an active 1000Mbps link, and green for 100Mbps. Seems counter intuitive but
it is sort of a 'standard'.
Such as the i350-T2 and others.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/intel-gigabit-server-adapters/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-series/intel-ethernet-server-adapter-i350-t2.html
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm familiar with.
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I have a question while we are on the topic: what color is the last LED on
your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps? I know it’s green at 100 Mbps,
but what about 1000 Mbps? I know the user guide says orange, but is that what
your AP actually does?
From: David
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything at me for not
reading the whole thread.
450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they are rated for
cambium std 29v
This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to 48v plant as
its base supply.
On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have an idea. Working on an experiment.
From: Wireless Administrator
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure doesn’t make sense to
me. The system continues to run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the Cambium
units. I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like this one’s above my pay
grade.
Steve B.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
No Joy. Everything checks out 100%.
I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown
voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to ground.
Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but normally
that is not an issue.
Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the
cambium unit.
They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out.
Something that is not related to surge suppression.
In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium
unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring continuity
and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual inspections are not
revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues
A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned...
From: Wireless Administrator
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Replaced This ……
With This …….
On same ground point and got This ……
:-)
Except I want this to work …….
L
Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……
Steve
From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run
at Gigabit speed.
Our setup is as follows:
Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync
injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’
Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i
It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler).
Anyone ……….
Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
You like when things don't follow common standards? Boy, I've got a company called MikroTik you'd probably love to hear more about :P On May 16, 2016 8:33 PM, "David Milholen" wrote: > Cambium has been known to break the mold :) > Which is what I like in a product. > > > On 5/16/2016 6:51 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm familiar with. > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> I have a question while we are on the topic: what color is the last LED >> on your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps? I know it’s green at 100 >> Mbps, but what about 1000 Mbps? I know the user guide says orange, but is >> that what your AP actually does? >> >> >> *From:* David >> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running >> 100Mbps >> >> I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything at me for >> not reading the whole thread. >> 450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they are rated >> for cambium std 29v >> This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to 48v plant as >> its base supply. >> >> >> On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> I have an idea. Working on an experiment. >> >> *From:* Wireless Administrator >> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running >> 100Mbps >> >> >> Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure doesn’t make sense to >> me. The system continues to run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the >> Cambium units. I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like this one’s >> above my pay grade. >> >> >> >> Steve B. >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On >> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running >> 100Mbps >> >> >> >> No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. >> >> >> >> I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown >> voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to >> ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but >> normally that is not an issue. >> >> >> >> Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the >> cambium unit. >> >> >> >> They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out. >> >> Something that is not related to surge suppression. >> >> >> >> In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium >> unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring >> continuity and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual >> inspections are not revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues >> >> >> >> A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned... >> >> >> >> *From:* Wireless Administrator >> >> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps >> >> >> >> *Replaced This ……* >> >> >> >> [image: surge1.jpeg] >> >> >> >> *With This …….* >> >> >> >> [image: surge02.jpeg] >> >> >> >> *On same ground point and got This ……* >> >> >> >> *[image: surge03.PNG]* >> >> >> >> *:-)* >> >> >> >> Except I want this to work ……. >> >> >> >> [image: surge1.jpeg] >> >> >> >> *L* >> >> *Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……* >> >> >> >> *Steve* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net >> ] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM >> *To:* 'af@afmug.com' >> *Subject:* Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i >> >> >> We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run >> at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried >> several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ >> Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 >> Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 >> Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B. >> >> >> >> >> > > -- >
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Ive got one fired up on the bench Ill look when I get in tomorrow. On 5/16/2016 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I have a question while we are on the topic: what color is the last LED on your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps? I know it’s green at 100 Mbps, but what about 1000 Mbps? I know the user guide says orange, but is that what your AP actually does? *From:* David <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything at me for not reading the whole thread. 450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they are rated for cambium std 29v This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to 48v plant as its base supply. On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I have an idea. Working on an experiment. *From:* Wireless Administrator <mailto:wirel...@htn.net> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure doesn’t make sense to me. The system continues to run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the Cambium units. I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like this one’s above my pay grade. Steve B. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but normally that is not an issue. Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the cambium unit. They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out. Something that is not related to surge suppression. In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring continuity and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual inspections are not revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned... *From:*Wireless Administrator <mailto:wirel...@htn.net> *Sent:*Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*[AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps *Replaced This ……* surge1.jpeg *With This …….* surge02.jpeg *On same ground point and got This ……* ** *surge03.PNG* ** *:-)* Except I want this to work ……. surge1.jpeg *L*** *Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……* ** *Steve* *From:*Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM *To:* 'af@afmug.com' *Subject:* Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded àCambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B. --
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Cambium has been known to break the mold :)
Which is what I like in a product.
On 5/16/2016 6:51 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm familiar with.
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I have a question while we are on the topic: what color is the
last LED on your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps? I know
it’s green at 100 Mbps, but what about 1000 Mbps? I know the user
guide says orange, but is that what your AP actually does?
*From:* David <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>
*Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only
running 100Mbps
I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything at
me for not reading the whole thread.
450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they are
rated for cambium std 29v
This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to 48v
plant as its base supply.
On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have an idea. Working on an experiment.
*From:* Wireless Administrator <mailto:wirel...@htn.net>
*Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only
running 100Mbps
Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure doesn’t make
sense to me. The system continues to run 1000Base-T Full Duplex
here with the Cambium units. I’m sure there is a reason but it
looks like this one’s above my pay grade.
Steve B.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only
running 100Mbps
No Joy. Everything checks out 100%.
I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse
breakdown voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit
for single pin to ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much
lower on the cambium unit but normally that is not an issue.
Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than
the cambium unit.
They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out.
Something that is not related to surge suppression.
In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the
cambium unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show
good wiring continuity and all show good breakdown voltage pin to
ground. Visual inspections are not revealing any solder bridges
or manufacturing issues
A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned...
*From:*Wireless Administrator <mailto:wirel...@htn.net>
*Sent:*Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*[AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
100Mbps
*Replaced This ……*
surge1.jpeg
*With This …….*
surge02.jpeg
*On same ground point and got This ……*
**
*surge03.PNG*
**
*:-)*
Except I want this to work …….
surge1.jpeg
*L***
*Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story
line ……*
**
*Steve*
*From:*Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net]
*Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM
*To:* 'af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>'
*Subject:* Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet
Interface to run at Gigabit speed.
Our setup is as follows:
Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit
Sync injector (48V) à35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded
à800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded àCambium 450i
It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler).
Anyone ……….
Steve B.
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Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
That sounds really backwards compared to most gear I'm familiar with. On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I have a question while we are on the topic: what color is the last LED > on your 450i AP when it is running at 1000 Mbps? I know it’s green at 100 > Mbps, but what about 1000 Mbps? I know the user guide says orange, but is > that what your AP actually does? > > > *From:* David > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 3:22 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > I am only catching part of this thread so dont throw anything at me for > not reading the whole thread. > 450i radios are rated for the 56v unlike the 450 radios they are rated for > cambium std 29v > This is the reason I am having to upgrade all of my boxes to 48v plant as > its base supply. > > > On 05/16/2016 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I have an idea. Working on an experiment. > > *From:* Wireless Administrator > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 8:56 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > > Thanks for having a look at this for us. It sure doesn’t make sense to > me. The system continues to run 1000Base-T Full Duplex here with the > Cambium units. I’m sure there is a reason but it looks like this one’s > above my pay grade. > > > > Steve B. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:26 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > > > No Joy. Everything checks out 100%. > > > > I bought one the cambium units for comparison. Its impulse breakdown > voltage is about 5 volts to ground lower than my unit for single pin to > ground. Transverse impulses are clamped much lower on the cambium unit but > normally that is not an issue. > > > > Pin to pin and pin to ground I have less capacitive loading than the > cambium unit. > > > > They have some other circuitry that I have yet to puzzle out. > > Something that is not related to surge suppression. > > > > In any event, your unit, a brand new unit from my stock and the cambium > unit all show 1Gbps on the traffic tester and all show good wiring > continuity and all show good breakdown voltage pin to ground. Visual > inspections are not revealing any solder bridges or manufacturing issues.... > > > > A puzzle for certain. But I am not finished. Stay tuned... > > > > *From:* Wireless Administrator > > *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps > > > > *Replaced This ……* > > > > [image: surge1.jpeg] > > > > *With This …….* > > > > [image: surge02.jpeg] > > > > *On same ground point and got This ……* > > > > *[image: surge03.PNG]* > > > > *:-)* > > > > Except I want this to work ……. > > > > [image: surge1.jpeg] > > > > *L* > > *Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……* > > > > *Steve* > > > > > > *From:* Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net ] > > *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM > *To:* 'af@afmug.com' > *Subject:* Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i > > > We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run > at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several > brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics > Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à > Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone > ………. Steve B. > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Only what I reported on this thread earlier. The AP is running fine with Cambium protector. Chuck has the other surge protector for review. Steve B. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps I’m actually having trouble negotiating GigE with some 450i APs on the bench right now using my laptop, short cables, and a Cambium 56V POE. The first one went OK, the next two the speed LED on the AP is either red (10Mbps) or off (???). If I connect it to a 100M device, or configure it to 10H/10F/100H/100F, everything is fine. But just connecting it to the GigE interface on my laptop, it doesn’t negotiate 100M, it flat out doesn’t work. I tried connecting it to a GigE Mikrotik port and got the same thing, so it’s not my laptop. Note there is no Sync Injector or surge protector involved, just the Motorola official 450i POE. Has anyone else seen this? From: Wireless Administrator <mailto:wirel...@htn.net> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 4:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps It had HV on the back of it. I did send it back to Chuck for review Steve From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but still allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb? On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I will run it through its paces once I get it back. We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity to surges and impulses than our competitors. That gives the equipment greater protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or ground loops. One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy trying to install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying the ground to the ground wire in a nearby romex cable. Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house ground and it actually started working. But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too. Once in a while one gets through our process with a problem. From: Joshaven Mailing Lists <mailto:lis...@joshaven.com> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel your cable. In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable. I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths. Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground. Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems. Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, wrote: And there is a reason When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason. From: <mailto:wirel...@htn.net> Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Replaced This …… With This ……. On same ground point and got This …… :-) Except I want this to work ……. L Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… Steve From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I’m actually having trouble negotiating GigE with some 450i APs on the bench right now using my laptop, short cables, and a Cambium 56V POE. The first one went OK, the next two the speed LED on the AP is either red (10Mbps) or off (???). If I connect it to a 100M device, or configure it to 10H/10F/100H/100F, everything is fine. But just connecting it to the GigE interface on my laptop, it doesn’t negotiate 100M, it flat out doesn’t work. I tried connecting it to a GigE Mikrotik port and got the same thing, so it’s not my laptop. Note there is no Sync Injector or surge protector involved, just the Motorola official 450i POE. Has anyone else seen this? From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 4:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps It had HV on the back of it. I did send it back to Chuck for review Steve From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but still allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb? On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I will run it through its paces once I get it back. We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity to surges and impulses than our competitors. That gives the equipment greater protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or ground loops. One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy trying to install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying the ground to the ground wire in a nearby romex cable. Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house ground and it actually started working. But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too. Once in a while one gets through our process with a problem. From: Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel your cable. In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable. I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths. Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground. Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems. Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, wrote: And there is a reason When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason. From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Replaced This …… With This ……. On same ground point and got This …… :-) Except I want this to work ……. L Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… Steve From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
It had HV on the back of it. I did send it back to Chuck for review Steve From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but still allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb? On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I will run it through its paces once I get it back. We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity to surges and impulses than our competitors. That gives the equipment greater protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or ground loops. One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy trying to install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying the ground to the ground wire in a nearby romex cable. Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house ground and it actually started working. But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too. Once in a while one gets through our process with a problem. From: Joshaven Mailing Lists <mailto:lis...@joshaven.com> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel your cable. In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable. I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths. Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground. Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems. Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, wrote: And there is a reason When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason. From: <mailto:wirel...@htn.net> Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Replaced This …… With This ……. On same ground point and got This …… :-) Except I want this to work ……. L Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… Steve From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
In the other thread he verified it was a "800-800-GIGE-APC-HV" Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 3:42 PM, wrote: > We are all presuming it is HV. If non HV then there many reasons it is > failing. > > *From:* George Skorup > *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 1:32 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but > still allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb? > > On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > I will run it through its paces once I get it back. > > We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity > to surges and impulses than our competitors. That gives the equipment > greater protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or > ground loops. One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy > trying to install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying > the ground to the ground wire in a nearby romex cable. > > Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house > ground and it actually started working. > > But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too. Once in a while > one gets through our process with a problem. > > *From:* Joshaven Mailing Lists > *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running > 100Mbps > > One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground > path. Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the > surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground > loop to travel your cable. > > In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path > that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable. > > I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a > drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths. > > Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your > equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground. > > > Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground > but you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind > etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems. > > > Sincerely, > Joshaven Potter > Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co > Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 > supp...@joshaven.com > > > > > On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, < ch...@wbmfg.com> < > ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > > And there is a reason > When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason. > > *From:* Wireless Administrator > *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps > > *Replaced This ……* > > > > *With This …….* > > > > *On same ground point and got This ……* > > ** > > *:-)* > > Except I want this to work ……. > > > > *L* > *Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……* > > *Steve* > > > *From:* Wireless Administrator [ mailto:wirel...@htn.net > ] > *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM > *To:* ' af@afmug.com' > *Subject:* Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i > > We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run > at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried > several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ > Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 > Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 > Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B. > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
We are all presuming it is HV. If non HV then there many reasons it is failing. From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but still allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb? On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I will run it through its paces once I get it back. We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity to surges and impulses than our competitors. That gives the equipment greater protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or ground loops. One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy trying to install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying the ground to the ground wire in a nearby romex cable. Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house ground and it actually started working. But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too. Once in a while one gets through our process with a problem. From: Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel your cable. In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable. I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths. Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground. Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems. Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, wrote: And there is a reason When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason. From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Replaced This …… With This ……. On same ground point and got This …… :-) Except I want this to work ……. L Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… Steve From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but still allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb? On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I will run it through its paces once I get it back. We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity to surges and impulses than our competitors. That gives the equipment greater protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or ground loops. One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy trying to install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying the ground to the ground wire in a nearby romex cable. Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house ground and it actually started working. But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too. Once in a while one gets through our process with a problem. *From:* Joshaven Mailing Lists <mailto:lis...@joshaven.com> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel your cable. In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable. I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths. Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground. Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems. Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co <mailto:j...@g2wireless.co> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com <mailto:supp...@joshaven.com> On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: And there is a reason When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason. *From:*Wireless Administrator <mailto:wirel...@htn.net> *Sent:*Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*[AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps *Replaced This ……* *With This …….* *On same ground point and got This ……* ** ** *:-)* Except I want this to work ……. *L*** *Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……* ** *Steve* *From:*Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] *Sent:*Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM *To:*'af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>' *Subject:*Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands)à14’ Cat6 PatchàGigabit Sync injector (48V)à35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shieldedà800-800-GIGE-APC-HVà80’ Best-tronics Cat5 ShieldedàCambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
I will run it through its paces once I get it back. We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity to surges and impulses than our competitors. That gives the equipment greater protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or ground loops. One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy trying to install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying the ground to the ground wire in a nearby romex cable. Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house ground and it actually started working. But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too. Once in a while one gets through our process with a problem. From: Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel your cable. In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable. I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths. Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground. Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems. Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, wrote: And there is a reason When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason. From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps Replaced This …… With This ……. On same ground point and got This …… :-) Except I want this to work ……. L Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… Steve From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at Gigabit speed. Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). Anyone ………. Steve B.
Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel your cable. In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable. I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths. Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground. Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems. Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com > On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, wrote: > > > And there is a reason > When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason. > > From: Wireless Administrator <mailto:wirel...@htn.net> > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps > > Replaced This …… > > > > With This ……. > > > > On same ground point and got This …… > > > > :-) > > Except I want this to work ……. > > > > L > Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line …… > > Steve > > > From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net > <mailto:wirel...@htn.net>] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM > To: 'af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>' > Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i > > We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at > Gigabit speed. > > Our setup is as follows: > > Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector > (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ > Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i > > It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler). > > Anyone ………. > > > > Steve B. >
