Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
I had a different model rhyno that I loved. Brother ptouch industrial also has a few good ones. On Dec 28, 2017 5:01 PM, "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote: > This is what I use for my tower sites. http://www.dymo.com/en- > US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable- > labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in > > http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire- > cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker > > It will layout labels for just about any rack, power panel you name it. > It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the > weather so far. > > > > On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes >> through conduit at well sites >> >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot >>> of running back and forth. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the >>>> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth. I >>>> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, >>>> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the >>>> bundle that all tone equally. I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical >>>> and horizontal lines with a sharpie. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, >>>> but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner >>>> to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, >>>> especially when they're getting manhandled. >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>> >>>> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as >>>> fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells >>>> you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is >>>> how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each >>>> end and start toning and punching each end as they go. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza < >>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time >>>>> for SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for >>>>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat >>>>> shrink >>>>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if >>>>> necessary.. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend >>>>> -10-Pack-44-103/100118633 >>>>> >>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here you go... several ways to get it done.. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ >>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. >>>>>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. >>>>>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December >>>>>> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling >>>>>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 >>>>>> drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before >>>>>> they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going >>>>>> to >>>>>> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored >>>>>> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is >>>>>> writing >>>>>> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
Fine tip marker is really the best On Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 8:53 PM George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote: > For office/structure wiring, simple electrical wire number markers work > fine. The kind you can get in booklets or on a dispenser like this: > https://www.zoro.com/3m-wire-marker-tape-wdispenser-preprintd-std-0-9/i/G3472226/ > They're cheap enough to put two sets of numbers 3-5 feet apart at the ends > in case you need to trim excess. Or one set and re-mark after you trim, > punch down, terminate, whatever. > > I've had a Dymo 5200 for years now. It's great for tower cables, patch > panels and all kinds of stuff. I put a "GPS" label on SyncPipes at sites > using the vinyl industrial tape. Been there for years and none have faded > or blown away. For cable labels, you want the 3/4" tape since it prints > across the width. The problem I have with the shrink tube label is that we > often mark what's what after we terminate and plug things in, so you'd need > at least 1/2" to fit over an RJ45. > > > On 12/28/2017 7:32 PM, Jeremy wrote: > > For temporary labeling we use colored electrical tape > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com> > wrote: > >> This is what I use for my tower sites. >> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in >> >> >> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker >> >> It will layout labels for just about any rack, power panel you name it. >> It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the >> weather so far. >> >> >> >> On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes >>> through conduit at well sites >>> >>> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> >>> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a >>>> lot of running back and forth. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the >>>>> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth. I >>>>> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, >>>>> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the >>>>> bundle that all tone equally. I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical >>>>> and horizontal lines with a sharpie. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, >>>>> but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a >>>>> toner >>>>> to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, >>>>> especially when they're getting manhandled. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as >>>>> fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells >>>>> you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is >>>>> how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each >>>>> end and start toning and punching each end as they go. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza < >>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time >>>>>> for SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire >>>>>> for >>>>>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat >>>>>> shrink >>>>>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if >>>>>> necessary.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>&g
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: Here you go... several ways to get it done.. https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ <https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/> Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
For temporary labeling we use colored electrical tape On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote: > This is what I use for my tower sites. http://www.dymo.com/en- > US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable- > labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in > > http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire- > cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker > > It will layout labels for just about any rack, power panel you name it. > It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the > weather so far. > > > > On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes >> through conduit at well sites >> >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot >>> of running back and forth. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the >>>> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth. I >>>> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, >>>> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the >>>> bundle that all tone equally. I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical >>>> and horizontal lines with a sharpie. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, >>>> but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner >>>> to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, >>>> especially when they're getting manhandled. >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>> >>>> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as >>>> fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells >>>> you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is >>>> how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each >>>> end and start toning and punching each end as they go. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza < >>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time >>>>> for SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for >>>>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat >>>>> shrink >>>>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if >>>>> necessary.. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend >>>>> -10-Pack-44-103/100118633 >>>>> >>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here you go... several ways to get it done.. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ >>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. >>>>>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. >>>>>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December >>>>>> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling >>>>>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 >>>>>> drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before >>>>>> they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going >>>>>> to >>>>>> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored >>>>>> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is >>>>>> writing >>>>>> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
This is what I use for my tower sites. http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker It will layout labels for just about any rack, power panel you name it. It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the weather so far. On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes > through conduit at well sites > > > Jaime Solorza > > On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot >> of running back and forth. >> >> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >> >>> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the >>> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth. I >>> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, >>> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the >>> bundle that all tone equally. I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical >>> and horizontal lines with a sharpie. >>> >>> >>> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> >>> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, >>> but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner >>> to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, >>> especially when they're getting manhandled. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>> >>> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast. >>> We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you >>> which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how >>> it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end >>> and start toning and punching each end as they go. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for >>>> SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for >>>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink >>>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if >>>> necessary.. >>>> >>>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend >>>> -10-Pack-44-103/100118633 >>>> >>>> Jaime Solorza >>>> >>>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Here you go... several ways to get it done.. >>>> >>>> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ >>>> Jaime Solorza >>>> >>>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. >>>>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. >>>>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December >>>>> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling >>>>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 >>>>> drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before >>>>> they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to >>>>> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored >>>>> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing >>>>> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes through conduit at well sites Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot > of running back and forth. > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: > >> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the >> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth. I >> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, >> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the >> bundle that all tone equally. I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical >> and horizontal lines with a sharpie. >> >> >> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >> >> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, but >> we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner to >> figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, >> especially when they're getting manhandled. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >> >> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast. >> We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you >> which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how >> it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end >> and start toning and punching each end as they go. >> >> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for >>> SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for >>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink >>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if >>> necessary.. >>> >>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet- >>> Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633 >>> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> >>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Here you go... several ways to get it done.. >>> >>> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ >>> Jaime Solorza >>> >>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. >>>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. >>>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December >>>> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling >>>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 >>>> drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before >>>> they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to >>>> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored >>>> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing >>>> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way? >>>> >>> >>> >>
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot of running back and forth. On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: > I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the > termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth. I > don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, > which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the > bundle that all tone equally. I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical > and horizontal lines with a sharpie. > > > On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, but > we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner to > figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, > especially when they're getting manhandled. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast. > We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you > which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how > it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end > and start toning and punching each end as they go. > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for >> SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for >> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink >> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if >> necessary.. >> >> >> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633 >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Here you go... several ways to get it done.. >> >> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ >> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. >>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. >>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, >>> 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling >>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 >>> drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before >>> they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to >>> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored >>> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing >>> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way? >>> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
Perhaps some kind of capacitive clothespin clip that could induce a tone on a wire without contacting the wires. I wonder if I could jam enough signal into an open ended cable like that to be able to ID it in a bundle From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth. I don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the bundle that all tone equally. I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical and horizontal lines with a sharpie. On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, especially when they're getting manhandled. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end and start toning and punching each end as they go. On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if necessary.. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633 Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: Here you go... several ways to get it done.. https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth. I don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the bundle that all tone equally. I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical and horizontal lines with a sharpie. On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, especially when they're getting manhandled. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end and start toning and punching each end as they go. On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if necessary.. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633 Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: Here you go... several ways to get it done.. https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, especially when they're getting manhandled. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end and start toning and punching each end as they go. On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if necessary.. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633 Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: Here you go... several ways to get it done.. https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end and start toning and punching each end as they go. On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for > SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for > us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink > Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if > necessary.. > > > https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633 > > Jaime Solorza > > On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Here you go... several ways to get it done.. > > https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ > Jaime Solorza > > On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. >> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. >> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 >> >> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, >> 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling >> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 >> drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before >> they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to >> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored >> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing >> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way? >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for SCADA projects. Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink Brady ID labels never remove the original ones. We reposition if necessary.. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633 Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: Here you go... several ways to get it done.. https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. > You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. > Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 > > -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, > 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling > I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops. > What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are > dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut > off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored tape > could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing the > drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way? >
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
Here you go... several ways to get it done.. https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/ Jaime Solorza On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. > You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. > Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 > > -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, > 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling > I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops. > What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are > dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut > off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored tape > could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing the > drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way? >
Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off. You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code. Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13 -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
[AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops. What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are dressed/punched. Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. Colored tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations. Is writing the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?