Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-29 Thread Lewis Bergman 
This is the FAA site: FAA
<https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm>
Enter everything and it will calculate if you need to provide notice. It
costs nothing to do an off airport filing and they will respond in 45 days.
Once assigned you can call the FAA person and they will tell you the max
height you can build both with or without a survey.

Here is the graphic from one I just did and the text with it:
You exceed the following Notice Criteria:

Your proposed structure is in proximity to a navigation facility and may
impact the assurance of navigation signal reception. The FAA, in accordance
with 77.9, requests that you file.

77.9(b) by 173 ft. The nearest airport is DYS, and the nearest runway is
16/34.

The FAA requests that you file
[image: Inline image 1]
Notice they didn't say no, they said file it. As for the survey, you can go
ahead and get a 1A as any surveyor will be more accurate by far than the
requirements as listed below. In my experience, you should provide them
with the exact survey verbiage to make sure they get it right as most
surveyors haven't done one before.
*HORIZONTAL**VERTICAL**Code Tolerance**Code Tolerance*1 +20 ft (6 m)A +3 ft
(1 m)2 +50 ft (15 m)B +10 ft (3 m)3 +100 ft (30 m)C +20 ft (6 m)


On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> You can't assume.  They look at primary secondary and emergency flight
> pathsits not linearwe had to reduce a tower 10 ft. in Laredo even
> though it was only 150 ft tall and three miles from airport!!!
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Oct 28, 2015 8:36 PM, "Glen Waldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Just to get the info out there, you guys might say its a nothing question
>> anyway, 4+ miles from a tiny rural airport, 50ft tower at 77ft higher
>> elevation, probably won't even break the tree tops.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:53 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>>
>> It’s actually pretty complex to figure out. Many factors such as if you
>> are near the end, or the side of the runway come in to play. Other issues
>> such as submitting a good 1A survey letter to have a ground elevation for
>> the tower so the FAA will not add a margin of error to your height make a
>> big difference. I used to do a lot of this work for a tower company about
>> 17 years ago. Had some real advanced software to calculate the instrument
>> approaches to see the maximum heights we could build towers. Different
>> types of approaches are approved for various airfields. Our towers near
>> airports always rented well J. TOWAIR is a good first pass for the easy
>> stuff. If you need to do some harder work I recommend that you work with
>> the folks at www.airspaceusa.com. The founder is a retired FAA guy and
>> knows the best way to get things done.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:00 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>>
>>
>>
>> Towair says I'm good, but what are the distance requirements before it is
>> an issue?
>>
>> I'd like some ballpark guidelines at least. Any tips? Something not in
>> this horrible FCC tech/legaleze nonsense?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net>
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:56 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>>
>>
>>
>> There is one at 140ft closer to the airport than my planned one will be,
>> only looking for a 50ft mini pop to hit a few houses behind a hill.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll check out the site.
>>
>> Thanks guys.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:35 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>>
>>
>>
>> i like safely landing rather than getting snagged outa the air by a tower
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> seriously though, the FCC and the FAA work together to make sure the
>&

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-29 Thread Jeremy 
I took over a tower that had a previous WISP on it.  I have since found
that it is not registered in Towair, and fails the test.  However, it is
just South of some high power lines which are taller than the tower, and
fall in between the tower and the airport.  So, if they are flying low
enough to hit my tower they are going to fly straight into the power lines
anyway.  What would be the process to get this tower legit?

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is the FAA site: FAA
> <https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm>
> Enter everything and it will calculate if you need to provide notice. It
> costs nothing to do an off airport filing and they will respond in 45 days.
> Once assigned you can call the FAA person and they will tell you the max
> height you can build both with or without a survey.
>
> Here is the graphic from one I just did and the text with it:
> You exceed the following Notice Criteria:
>
> Your proposed structure is in proximity to a navigation facility and may
> impact the assurance of navigation signal reception. The FAA, in accordance
> with 77.9, requests that you file.
>
> 77.9(b) by 173 ft. The nearest airport is DYS, and the nearest runway is
> 16/34.
>
> The FAA requests that you file
> [image: Inline image 1]
> Notice they didn't say no, they said file it. As for the survey, you can
> go ahead and get a 1A as any surveyor will be more accurate by far than the
> requirements as listed below. In my experience, you should provide them
> with the exact survey verbiage to make sure they get it right as most
> surveyors haven't done one before.
> *HORIZONTAL**VERTICAL**Code Tolerance**Code Tolerance*1 +20 ft (6 m)A +3
> ft (1 m)2 +50 ft (15 m)B +10 ft (3 m)3 +100 ft (30 m)C +20 ft (6 m)
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> You can't assume.  They look at primary secondary and emergency flight
>> pathsits not linearwe had to reduce a tower 10 ft. in Laredo even
>> though it was only 150 ft tall and three miles from airport!!!
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Oct 28, 2015 8:36 PM, "Glen Waldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Just to get the info out there, you guys might say its a nothing
>>> question anyway, 4+ miles from a tiny rural airport, 50ft tower at 77ft
>>> higher elevation, probably won't even break the tree tops.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:53 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>>>
>>> It’s actually pretty complex to figure out. Many factors such as if you
>>> are near the end, or the side of the runway come in to play. Other issues
>>> such as submitting a good 1A survey letter to have a ground elevation for
>>> the tower so the FAA will not add a margin of error to your height make a
>>> big difference. I used to do a lot of this work for a tower company about
>>> 17 years ago. Had some real advanced software to calculate the instrument
>>> approaches to see the maximum heights we could build towers. Different
>>> types of approaches are approved for various airfields. Our towers near
>>> airports always rented well J. TOWAIR is a good first pass for the easy
>>> stuff. If you need to do some harder work I recommend that you work with
>>> the folks at www.airspaceusa.com. The founder is a retired FAA guy and
>>> knows the best way to get things done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>>
>>> Brian Webster
>>>
>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>
>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:00 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Towair says I'm good, but what are the distance requirements before it
>>> is an issue?
>>>
>>> I'd like some ballpark guidelines at least. Any tips? Something not in
>>> this horrible FCC tech/legaleze nonsense?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net>
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
&g

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-29 Thread Lewis Bergman 
File with the FAA as I mentioned above. You can take a screenshot wth
google earth and annotate it marking the power lines, their heights, etc..
When you get a file number and it is assigned I would call them, point out
the power lines again, and find out if they want any documentation that you
didn't already add. I think If you could upload a picture from a side
azimuth with annotations that might help as well. I have found the FAA
personnel very helpful.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I took over a tower that had a previous WISP on it.  I have since found
> that it is not registered in Towair, and fails the test.  However, it is
> just South of some high power lines which are taller than the tower, and
> fall in between the tower and the airport.  So, if they are flying low
> enough to hit my tower they are going to fly straight into the power lines
> anyway.  What would be the process to get this tower legit?
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is the FAA site: FAA
>> <https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm>
>> Enter everything and it will calculate if you need to provide notice. It
>> costs nothing to do an off airport filing and they will respond in 45 days.
>> Once assigned you can call the FAA person and they will tell you the max
>> height you can build both with or without a survey.
>>
>> Here is the graphic from one I just did and the text with it:
>> You exceed the following Notice Criteria:
>>
>> Your proposed structure is in proximity to a navigation facility and may
>> impact the assurance of navigation signal reception. The FAA, in accordance
>> with 77.9, requests that you file.
>>
>> 77.9(b) by 173 ft. The nearest airport is DYS, and the nearest runway is
>> 16/34.
>>
>> The FAA requests that you file
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>> Notice they didn't say no, they said file it. As for the survey, you can
>> go ahead and get a 1A as any surveyor will be more accurate by far than the
>> requirements as listed below. In my experience, you should provide them
>> with the exact survey verbiage to make sure they get it right as most
>> surveyors haven't done one before.
>> *HORIZONTAL**VERTICAL**Code Tolerance**Code Tolerance*1 +20 ft (6 m)A +3
>> ft (1 m)2 +50 ft (15 m)B +10 ft (3 m)3 +100 ft (30 m)C +20 ft (6 m)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can't assume.  They look at primary secondary and emergency flight
>>> pathsits not linearwe had to reduce a tower 10 ft. in Laredo even
>>> though it was only 150 ft tall and three miles from airport!!!
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> On Oct 28, 2015 8:36 PM, "Glen Waldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just to get the info out there, you guys might say its a nothing
>>>> question anyway, 4+ miles from a tiny rural airport, 50ft tower at 77ft
>>>> higher elevation, probably won't even break the tree tops.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> *From:* Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:53 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>>>>
>>>> It’s actually pretty complex to figure out. Many factors such as if you
>>>> are near the end, or the side of the runway come in to play. Other issues
>>>> such as submitting a good 1A survey letter to have a ground elevation for
>>>> the tower so the FAA will not add a margin of error to your height make a
>>>> big difference. I used to do a lot of this work for a tower company about
>>>> 17 years ago. Had some real advanced software to calculate the instrument
>>>> approaches to see the maximum heights we could build towers. Different
>>>> types of approaches are approved for various airfields. Our towers near
>>>> airports always rented well J. TOWAIR is a good first pass for the
>>>> easy stuff. If you need to do some harder work I recommend that you work
>>>> with the folks at www.airspaceusa.com. The founder is a retired FAA
>>>> guy and knows the best way to get things done.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank You,
>>>>
>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>
>>>> www.wirelessmapp

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Brian Webster 
It’s actually pretty complex to figure out. Many factors such as if you are 
near the end, or the side of the runway come in to play. Other issues such as 
submitting a good 1A survey letter to have a ground elevation for the tower so 
the FAA will not add a margin of error to your height make a big difference. I 
used to do a lot of this work for a tower company about 17 years ago. Had some 
real advanced software to calculate the instrument approaches to see the 
maximum heights we could build towers. Different types of approaches are 
approved for various airfields. Our towers near airports always rented well J. 
TOWAIR is a good first pass for the easy stuff. If you need to do some harder 
work I recommend that you work with the folks at www.airspaceusa.com. The 
founder is a retired FAA guy and knows the best way to get things done.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

 

Towair says I'm good, but what are the distance requirements before it is an 
issue?

I'd like some ballpark guidelines at least. Any tips? Something not in this 
horrible FCC tech/legaleze nonsense?

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Glen Waldrop <mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>  

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:56 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

 

There is one at 140ft closer to the airport than my planned one will be, only 
looking for a 50ft mini pop to hit a few houses behind a hill.

 

I'll check out the site.

Thanks guys.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>  

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:35 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

 

i like safely landing rather than getting snagged outa the air by a tower ;-) 

 

seriously though, the FCC and the FAA work together to make sure the national 
airspace is safe for everyone.  

 

there are ways to get a tower near an airport if they are in the right spot 
and/or not too tall as to create a problem.

 

-sean

 

 

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is quite a distance away where you are still required to pass the glide 
slope, and notify them of any frequency changes.  I know that every tower that 
I have looked into building within a couple miles has failed the test in 
towair.  Still looking for alternatives.  I just hate all the red tape.

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails.

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:

What is the legality of towers near airports?

How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Glen Waldrop 
Just to get the info out there, you guys might say its a nothing question 
anyway, 4+ miles from a tiny rural airport, 50ft tower at 77ft higher 
elevation, probably won't even break the tree tops.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Webster 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports


  It’s actually pretty complex to figure out. Many factors such as if you are 
near the end, or the side of the runway come in to play. Other issues such as 
submitting a good 1A survey letter to have a ground elevation for the tower so 
the FAA will not add a margin of error to your height make a big difference. I 
used to do a lot of this work for a tower company about 17 years ago. Had some 
real advanced software to calculate the instrument approaches to see the 
maximum heights we could build towers. Different types of approaches are 
approved for various airfields. Our towers near airports always rented well J. 
TOWAIR is a good first pass for the easy stuff. If you need to do some harder 
work I recommend that you work with the folks at www.airspaceusa.com. The 
founder is a retired FAA guy and knows the best way to get things done.

   

  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:00 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

   

  Towair says I'm good, but what are the distance requirements before it is an 
issue?

  I'd like some ballpark guidelines at least. Any tips? Something not in this 
horrible FCC tech/legaleze nonsense?

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Glen Waldrop 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:56 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

 

There is one at 140ft closer to the airport than my planned one will be, 
only looking for a 50ft mini pop to hit a few houses behind a hill.

 

I'll check out the site.

Thanks guys.

 

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sean Heskett 

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:35 PM

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

   

  i like safely landing rather than getting snagged outa the air by a tower 
;-) 

   

  seriously though, the FCC and the FAA work together to make sure the 
national airspace is safe for everyone.  

   

  there are ways to get a tower near an airport if they are in the right 
spot and/or not too tall as to create a problem.

   

  -sean

   

   

   

  On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

  It is quite a distance away where you are still required to pass the 
glide slope, and notify them of any frequency changes.  I know that every tower 
that I have looked into building within a couple miles has failed the test in 
towair.  Still looking for alternatives.  I just hate all the red tape.

   

  On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails.

   

  On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> 
wrote:

  What is the legality of towers near airports?

  How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Jaime Solorza 
You can't assume.  They look at primary secondary and emergency flight
pathsits not linearwe had to reduce a tower 10 ft. in Laredo even
though it was only 150 ft tall and three miles from airport!!!

Jaime Solorza
On Oct 28, 2015 8:36 PM, "Glen Waldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:

> Just to get the info out there, you guys might say its a nothing question
> anyway, 4+ miles from a tiny rural airport, 50ft tower at 77ft higher
> elevation, probably won't even break the tree tops.
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:53 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>
> It’s actually pretty complex to figure out. Many factors such as if you
> are near the end, or the side of the runway come in to play. Other issues
> such as submitting a good 1A survey letter to have a ground elevation for
> the tower so the FAA will not add a margin of error to your height make a
> big difference. I used to do a lot of this work for a tower company about
> 17 years ago. Had some real advanced software to calculate the instrument
> approaches to see the maximum heights we could build towers. Different
> types of approaches are approved for various airfields. Our towers near
> airports always rented well J. TOWAIR is a good first pass for the easy
> stuff. If you need to do some harder work I recommend that you work with
> the folks at www.airspaceusa.com. The founder is a retired FAA guy and
> knows the best way to get things done.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>
>
>
> Towair says I'm good, but what are the distance requirements before it is
> an issue?
>
> I'd like some ballpark guidelines at least. Any tips? Something not in
> this horrible FCC tech/legaleze nonsense?
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:56 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>
>
>
> There is one at 140ft closer to the airport than my planned one will be,
> only looking for a 50ft mini pop to hit a few houses behind a hill.
>
>
>
> I'll check out the site.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:35 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports
>
>
>
> i like safely landing rather than getting snagged outa the air by a tower
> ;-)
>
>
>
> seriously though, the FCC and the FAA work together to make sure the
> national airspace is safe for everyone.
>
>
>
> there are ways to get a tower near an airport if they are in the right
> spot and/or not too tall as to create a problem.
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It is quite a distance away where you are still required to pass the glide
> slope, and notify them of any frequency changes.  I know that every tower
> that I have looked into building within a couple miles has failed the test
> in towair.  Still looking for alternatives.  I just hate all the red tape.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> What is the legality of towers near airports?
>
> How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Glen Waldrop 
What is the legality of towers near airports?

How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Jeremy 
Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop 
wrote:

> What is the legality of towers near airports?
>
> How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Jeremy 
It is quite a distance away where you are still required to pass the glide
slope, and notify them of any frequency changes.  I know that every tower
that I have looked into building within a couple miles has failed the test
in towair.  Still looking for alternatives.  I just hate all the red tape.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails.
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop 
> wrote:
>
>> What is the legality of towers near airports?
>>
>> How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Sean Heskett 
i like safely landing rather than getting snagged outa the air by a tower
;-)

seriously though, the FCC and the FAA work together to make sure the
national airspace is safe for everyone.

there are ways to get a tower near an airport if they are in the right spot
and/or not too tall as to create a problem.

-sean



On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> It is quite a distance away where you are still required to pass the glide
> slope, and notify them of any frequency changes.  I know that every tower
> that I have looked into building within a couple miles has failed the test
> in towair.  Still looking for alternatives.  I just hate all the red tape.
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the legality of towers near airports?
>>>
>>> How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Glen Waldrop 
There is one at 140ft closer to the airport than my planned one will be, only 
looking for a 50ft mini pop to hit a few houses behind a hill.

I'll check out the site.

Thanks guys.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sean Heskett 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports


  i like safely landing rather than getting snagged outa the air by a tower ;-)


  seriously though, the FCC and the FAA work together to make sure the national 
airspace is safe for everyone.  


  there are ways to get a tower near an airport if they are in the right spot 
and/or not too tall as to create a problem.


  -sean






  On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is quite a distance away where you are still required to pass the glide 
slope, and notify them of any frequency changes.  I know that every tower that 
I have looked into building within a couple miles has failed the test in 
towair.  Still looking for alternatives.  I just hate all the red tape.


On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails.


  On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> 
wrote:

What is the legality of towers near airports?

How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Glen Waldrop 
Towair says I'm good, but what are the distance requirements before it is an 
issue?

I'd like some ballpark guidelines at least. Any tips? Something not in this 
horrible FCC tech/legaleze nonsense?


  - Original Message - 
  From: Glen Waldrop 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports


  There is one at 140ft closer to the airport than my planned one will be, only 
looking for a 50ft mini pop to hit a few houses behind a hill.

  I'll check out the site.

  Thanks guys.


- Original Message - 
From: Sean Heskett 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports


i like safely landing rather than getting snagged outa the air by a tower 
;-) 


seriously though, the FCC and the FAA work together to make sure the 
national airspace is safe for everyone.  


there are ways to get a tower near an airport if they are in the right spot 
and/or not too tall as to create a problem.


-sean






On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

  It is quite a distance away where you are still required to pass the 
glide slope, and notify them of any frequency changes.  I know that every tower 
that I have looked into building within a couple miles has failed the test in 
towair.  Still looking for alternatives.  I just hate all the red tape.


  On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails.


On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> 
wrote:

  What is the legality of towers near airports?

  How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?

Re: [AFMUG] Towers near airports

2015-10-28 Thread Lewis Bergman 
In general, it is 1 foot elevation for every 100 foot within a 30 degree
arc off the end of the runway. The FAA also has a tool that you can enter
the coordinates and it will give you a pads fail.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015, 7:35 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> i like safely landing rather than getting snagged outa the air by a tower
> ;-)
>
> seriously though, the FCC and the FAA work together to make sure the
> national airspace is safe for everyone.
>
> there are ways to get a tower near an airport if they are in the right
> spot and/or not too tall as to create a problem.
>
> -sean
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> It is quite a distance away where you are still required to pass the
>> glide slope, and notify them of any frequency changes.  I know that every
>> tower that I have looked into building within a couple miles has failed the
>> test in towair.  Still looking for alternatives.  I just hate all the red
>> tape.
>>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
> Put it in to the towair website and see if it passes or fails.
>>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Glen Waldrop 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> What is the legality of towers near airports?

 How high, how far does it need to be from the airport, etc?


>>>