Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
Loved this line: “In 2013, a Proton rocket was lost because a worker installed a sensor upside down — and hammered it in to fit. “ From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Remember something like 8 years ago when the FCC retroactively required DFS in U-NII-2 and some manufacturers just dropped support of that band instead of getting DFS? (Cough, cough, Trango) I wonder if the whole industry is abandoning DFS. I see that tri-band AC routers now come set by default to use U-NII-1 and U-NII-3, and why not, given the higher xmt power and no DFS. I know that I’m reluctant to use DFS bands outdoors unless it’s the middle of nowhere, because even a couple false DFS events per month will now cause customer complaints. Probably it’s just part of Ubiquiti seems to have lost their mojo. Reminds me of this article on the once great Russian space program: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russias-geriatric-space-program-creaking-n413607 But Optimus Prime is not dead, just damaged, and Mark Wahlberg will rebuild him ... oops, wrong movie. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Cc: Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org, memb...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:39:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today, Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org, Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:52:40 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
I wonder if they fired him or took him out behind the shed and shot him. On 8/24/2015 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Loved this line: “In 2013, a Proton rocket was lost because a worker installed a sensor upside down — and hammered it in to fit. “ *From:* Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Remember something like 8 years ago when the FCC retroactively required DFS in U-NII-2 and some manufacturers just dropped support of that band instead of getting DFS? (Cough, cough, Trango) I wonder if the whole industry is abandoning DFS. I see that tri-band AC routers now come set by default to use U-NII-1 and U-NII-3, and why not, given the higher xmt power and no DFS. I know that I’m reluctant to use DFS bands outdoors unless it’s the middle of nowhere, because even a couple false DFS events per month will now cause customer complaints. Probably it’s just part of Ubiquiti seems to have lost their mojo. Reminds me of this article on the once great Russian space program: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russias-geriatric-space-program-creaking-n413607 But Optimus Prime is not dead, just damaged, and Mark Wahlberg will rebuild him ... oops, wrong movie. *From:* Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Cc: *Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org, memb...@wispa.org *Sent: *Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:39:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today, Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com *To: *af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org, Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org *Sent: *Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:52:40 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
Probably a 600.00 hammer On Aug 24, 2015 7:17 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Loved this line: “In 2013, a Proton rocket was lost because a worker installed a sensor upside down — and hammered it in to fit. “ *From:* Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Remember something like 8 years ago when the FCC retroactively required DFS in U-NII-2 and some manufacturers just dropped support of that band instead of getting DFS? (Cough, cough, Trango) I wonder if the whole industry is abandoning DFS. I see that tri-band AC routers now come set by default to use U-NII-1 and U-NII-3, and why not, given the higher xmt power and no DFS. I know that I’m reluctant to use DFS bands outdoors unless it’s the middle of nowhere, because even a couple false DFS events per month will now cause customer complaints. Probably it’s just part of Ubiquiti seems to have lost their mojo. Reminds me of this article on the once great Russian space program: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russias-geriatric-space-program-creaking-n413607 But Optimus Prime is not dead, just damaged, and Mark Wahlberg will rebuild him ... oops, wrong movie. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Cc: *Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org, memb...@wispa.org *Sent: *Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:39:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today, Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com *To: *af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org, Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org *Sent: *Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:52:40 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
Darin, We have ubnt m5 and epmp 5ghz deployed and we like both so far -Original Message- From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com Sent: 8/23/2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org; Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
I was going to say the AF5x seems to be working well, but then I remembered that you can't figure out how to get yours to work. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:02:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback If I was starting out there would be no Ubnt stuff in my network. I'd have just ePMP. The only downside at this point in time is the lack of a good 2.4 CPE (Force 200) which is done and works well, but isn't quite shipping. Nowadays, though, I don't know if I'm going to be doing a whole lot of 2.4 anything... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Joseph Marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, We have ubnt m5 and epmp 5ghz deployed and we like both so far From: Darin Steffl Sent: 8/23/2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; Principal WISPA Member List Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
Mine work if it's under a mile! Works brilliantly at 2000'! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I was going to say the AF5x seems to be working well, but then I remembered that you can't figure out how to get yours to work. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:02:29 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback If I was starting out there would be no Ubnt stuff in my network. I'd have just ePMP. The only downside at this point in time is the lack of a good 2.4 CPE (Force 200) which is done and works well, but isn't quite shipping. Nowadays, though, I don't know if I'm going to be doing a whole lot of 2.4 anything... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Joseph Marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, We have ubnt m5 and epmp 5ghz deployed and we like both so far -- From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com Sent: 8/23/2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org; Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
Josh, We steer completely clear of 2.4 accept for access for users. We have 2 fsk APs left on the network and we should have those removed by mid sept. On 8/23/2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: If I was starting out there would be no Ubnt stuff in my network. I'd have just ePMP. The only downside at this point in time is the lack of a good 2.4 CPE (Force 200) which is done and works well, but isn't quite shipping. Nowadays, though, I don't know if I'm going to be doing a whole lot of 2.4 anything... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Joseph Marsh bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, We have ubnt m5 and epmp 5ghz deployed and we like both so far From: Darin Steffl mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com Sent: 8/23/2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org; Principal WISPA Member List mailto:w...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com http://www.mnwifi.com/ 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi --
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
We have all ubnt on current network our new network is going all epmp 2.4 sucks here -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com Sent: 8/23/2015 3:29 PM To: af af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback I agree with Josh... if I was building a new network at this point the only ubnt stuff I'd use is airfiber. On Aug 23, 2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If I was starting out there would be no Ubnt stuff in my network. I'd have just ePMP. The only downside at this point in time is the lack of a good 2.4 CPE (Force 200) which is done and works well, but isn't quite shipping. Nowadays, though, I don't know if I'm going to be doing a whole lot of 2.4 anything... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Joseph Marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, We have ubnt m5 and epmp 5ghz deployed and we like both so far From: Darin Steffl Sent: 8/23/2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org; Principal WISPA Member List Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
yes you are correct Mike, they are still missing the 54xx DFS channels. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:49:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Cc: Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org , memb...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23 , 2015 3:39:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today , Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com , memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org , Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23 , 2015 1:52:40 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
Maybe that's their big Vegas party? Wheeler personally hands Robert the certifications? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:01:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback yes you are correct Mike, they are still missing the 54xx DFS channels. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:49:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback blockquote IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Cc: Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org , memb...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23 , 2015 3:39:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today , Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - blockquote From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com , memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org , Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23 , 2015 1:52:40 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback /blockquote blockquote Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook /blockquote /blockquote
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If Wheeler is coming to Vegas I know the WISPAPALOOZA Agenda committee would like to know ;-) Thank you, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84 Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Maybe that's their big Vegas party? Wheeler personally hands Robert the certifications? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:01:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback yes you are correct Mike, they are still missing the 54xx DFS channels. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net _ From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:49:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix _ From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Cc: Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org mailto:w...@wispa.org , memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:39:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today, Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 callto:305%20663%205518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 callto:%28305%29663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net _ From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com , memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org , Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org mailto:w...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:52:40 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really
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Remember something like 8 years ago when the FCC retroactively required DFS in U-NII-2 and some manufacturers just dropped support of that band instead of getting DFS? (Cough, cough, Trango) I wonder if the whole industry is abandoning DFS. I see that tri-band AC routers now come set by default to use U-NII-1 and U-NII-3, and why not, given the higher xmt power and no DFS. I know that I’m reluctant to use DFS bands outdoors unless it’s the middle of nowhere, because even a couple false DFS events per month will now cause customer complaints. Probably it’s just part of Ubiquiti seems to have lost their mojo. Reminds me of this article on the once great Russian space program: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russias-geriatric-space-program-creaking-n413607 But Optimus Prime is not dead, just damaged, and Mark Wahlberg will rebuild him ... oops, wrong movie. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Cc: Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org, memb...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:39:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today, Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org, Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:52:40 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback
Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today, Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org, Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:52:40 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
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Would be nice if they had an AC version of ePMP... On Sunday, August 23, 2015, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Josh... if I was building a new network at this point the only ubnt stuff I'd use is airfiber. On Aug 23, 2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@imaginenetworksllc.com'); wrote: If I was starting out there would be no Ubnt stuff in my network. I'd have just ePMP. The only downside at this point in time is the lack of a good 2.4 CPE (Force 200) which is done and works well, but isn't quite shipping. Nowadays, though, I don't know if I'm going to be doing a whole lot of 2.4 anything... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Joseph Marsh bwireless...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bwireless...@gmail.com'); wrote: Darin, We have ubnt m5 and epmp 5ghz deployed and we like both so far -- From: Darin Steffl javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','darin.ste...@mnwifi.com'); Sent: 8/23/2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');; memb...@wispa.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','memb...@wispa.org');; Principal WISPA Member List javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','w...@wispa.org'); Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
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IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Cc: Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org, memb...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:39:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hi Darin, Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the bands... EPMP is available for use today, Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new firmware to unlock the channels. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly desired. If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with the AC products will be appealing. how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not then they all come down to their knees How much and how quicklywould be very difficult to describe(kind of like asking someone what does a rose smell like ?) Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time(latency) EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . Ubnt works pretty decent too. However as a general rule non gps based systems are more susceptible to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based units will come down to their knees. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org, Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:52:40 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback blockquote Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook /blockquote
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I agree with Josh... if I was building a new network at this point the only ubnt stuff I'd use is airfiber. On Aug 23, 2015 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If I was starting out there would be no Ubnt stuff in my network. I'd have just ePMP. The only downside at this point in time is the lack of a good 2.4 CPE (Force 200) which is done and works well, but isn't quite shipping. Nowadays, though, I don't know if I'm going to be doing a whole lot of 2.4 anything... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Joseph Marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, We have ubnt m5 and epmp 5ghz deployed and we like both so far -- From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com Sent: 8/23/2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org; Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback Hello guys, Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't talked about much on the list or in the forums. I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. Any feedback would be great. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
