Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Well when you subcontract the manufacturing out to a competitor’s plant (UBNT) 
there is always the possibility of sabotage too.

(can you spell T R O L L...   ;-)

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:44 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with 
ADI communication error

This smells like a similar problem for sure. 

Assuming that this is a manufacturing and not a design issue,  my guess is that 
it's either some process causing a component crack (i.e. not properly baking a 
moisture sensitive part before assembly..causing popcorning, or a mechanical 
flex during separation), or possibly a counterfeit component.

On Aug 18, 2015 11:16 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is this a recurrence of the melting epoxy problem of 2009 (or whatever year 
it was)? With appropriate accommodations for changes in hardware?
   

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 8/12/2015 11:01 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:

Actually, both… but I was referring to the actual product issue, resulting 
in the need for RMA.



The RMA process and forms are being reviewed also, and being worked by the 
right teams. (Different folks than are working on the product root cause… whew!)



Matt



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with 
ADI communication error



The RMA or the ADI issue?






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  We’re hard at work on this issue… lots of resources are digging into this 
as fast as possible to root cause.



  I will update when we learn more.



  Matt



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:55 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days 
with ADI communication error



  I had to yell on the list to get an answer.  At least they answered you 
without barking =(






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….



Mark



  On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:



  Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't 
even survive a few weeks???






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net 
wrote:

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles 
about Motorola quality:  
http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality

3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we 
expect to fall over dead?

Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days. 
  Makes us look like idiots.

Mark












Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-18 Thread Mark Radabaugh
If Cambium waits just a little bit longer they can open a fabrication facility 
in Texas and hire the experienced Mexican crew - that used to assemble good 
radios :-)

Mark

 On Aug 18, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
 
 Well when you subcontract the manufacturing out to a competitor’s plant 
 (UBNT) there is always the possibility of sabotage too.
  
 (can you spell T R O L L...   ;-)
  
 From: Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:44 PM
 To: af mailto:af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with 
 ADI communication error
  
 This smells like a similar problem for sure.
 Assuming that this is a manufacturing and not a design issue,  my guess is 
 that it's either some process causing a component crack (i.e. not properly 
 baking a moisture sensitive part before assembly..causing popcorning, or a 
 mechanical flex during separation), or possibly a counterfeit component.
 On Aug 18, 2015 11:16 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com 
 mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is this a recurrence of the melting epoxy problem of 2009 (or whatever year 
 it was)? With appropriate accommodations for changes in hardware?
  
 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
 
 On 8/12/2015 11:01 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
 Actually, both… but I was referring to the actual product issue, resulting 
 in the need for RMA.
  
 The RMA process and forms are being reviewed also, and being worked by the 
 right teams. (Different folks than are working on the product root cause… 
 whew!)
  
 Matt
  
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:10 PM
 To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with 
 ADI communication error
  
 The RMA or the ADI issue?
 
  
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
  
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
 matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com 
 mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:
 We’re hard at work on this issue… lots of resources are digging into this 
 as fast as possible to root cause.
  
 I will update when we learn more.
  
 Matt
  
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:55 AM
 To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days 
 with ADI communication error
  
 I had to yell on the list to get an answer.  At least they answered you 
 without barking =(
 
  
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
  
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net 
 mailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:
 And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….
  
 Mark
  
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman  
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.comj...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  
 Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't 
 even survive a few weeks???
 
  
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
  
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh  
 mailto:m...@amplex.netm...@amplex.net mailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:
 Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about 
 Motorola quality:   
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-qualityhttp://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality
  
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality
 
 3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.
 
 Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we 
 expect to fall over dead?
 
 Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   
 Makes us look like idiots.
 
 Mark
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 



Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-18 Thread Bill Prince
Is this a recurrence of the melting epoxy problem of 2009 (or whatever 
year it was)? With appropriate accommodations for changes in hardware?


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 8/12/2015 11:01 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:


Actually, both… but I was referring to the actual product issue, 
resulting in the need for RMA.


The RMA process and forms are being reviewed also, and being worked by 
the right teams. (Different folks than are working on the product root 
cause… whew!)


Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:10 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of 
days with ADI communication error


The RMA or the ADI issue?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com 
mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:


We’re hard at work on this issue… lots of resources are digging
into this as fast as possible to root cause.

I will update when we learn more.

Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:55 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple
of days with ADI communication error

I had to yell on the list to get an answer.  At least they
answered you without barking =(


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net
mailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:

And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….

Mark

On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio
and it can't even survive a few weeks???


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh
m...@amplex.net mailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to
write articles about Motorola quality:

http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality

3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of
these can we expect to fall over dead?

Not cool when it happens to the same new customer
twice in 10 days.  Makes us look like idiots.

Mark





Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-18 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
This smells like a similar problem for sure.

Assuming that this is a manufacturing and not a design issue,  my guess is
that it's either some process causing a component crack (i.e. not properly
baking a moisture sensitive part before assembly..causing popcorning, or a
mechanical flex during separation), or possibly a counterfeit component.
On Aug 18, 2015 11:16 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is this a recurrence of the melting epoxy problem of 2009 (or whatever
 year it was)? With appropriate accommodations for changes in hardware?


 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 8/12/2015 11:01 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:

 Actually, both… but I was referring to the actual product issue, resulting
 in the need for RMA.



 The RMA process and forms are being reviewed also, and being worked by the
 right teams. (Different folks than are working on the product root cause…
 whew!)



 Matt



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:10 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days
 with ADI communication error



 The RMA or the ADI issue?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
 matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

 We’re hard at work on this issue… lots of resources are digging into this
 as fast as possible to root cause.



 I will update when we learn more.



 Matt



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:55 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days
 with ADI communication error



 I had to yell on the list to get an answer.  At least they answered you
 without barking =(




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

 And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….



 Mark



 On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:



 Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't even
 survive a few weeks???




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

 Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about
 Motorola quality:
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality

 3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

 Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect
 to fall over dead?

 Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.
  Makes us look like idiots.

 Mark













Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-17 Thread Mark Radabaugh
3 more this weekend.

One lucky customer is on the 4th radio.  We found her a 6 month old radio for 
the next attempt at repairing it.

Mark

 On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:53 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
 
 Knock on wood.. we've had two confirmed (already RMA'd) and maybe a 3rd out 
 of 60-70 so far. It sucks, but shit happens.
 
 On 8/17/2015 6:31 PM, Jeff Hardy wrote:
 I'm halfway through a box of 25 with 4 failures so far, all requiring truck 
 rolls and embarrassment.  I'm going to hold off on sending in the box of 
 dead radios as we will probably have another one tomorrow.  Nice to know 
 they are working on it
 Jeff
 
 
 
 On 08/12/2015 09:43 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
 Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about 
 Motorola quality: 
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality
 
 3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.
 
 Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect to 
 fall over dead?
 
 Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   Makes 
 us look like idiots.
 
 Mark
 
 



Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-17 Thread Jeff Hardy
I'm halfway through a box of 25 with 4 failures so far, all requiring 
truck rolls and embarrassment.  I'm going to hold off on sending in the 
box of dead radios as we will probably have another one tomorrow.  Nice 
to know they are working on it

Jeff



On 08/12/2015 09:43 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about Motorola 
quality:  
http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality

3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect to 
fall over dead?

Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   Makes us 
look like idiots.

Mark




Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-17 Thread George Skorup
Knock on wood.. we've had two confirmed (already RMA'd) and maybe a 3rd 
out of 60-70 so far. It sucks, but shit happens.


On 8/17/2015 6:31 PM, Jeff Hardy wrote:
I'm halfway through a box of 25 with 4 failures so far, all requiring 
truck rolls and embarrassment.  I'm going to hold off on sending in 
the box of dead radios as we will probably have another one tomorrow.  
Nice to know they are working on it

Jeff



On 08/12/2015 09:43 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles 
about Motorola quality: 
http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality


3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we 
expect to fall over dead?


Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   
Makes us look like idiots.


Mark






Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't even
survive a few weeks???


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

 Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about
 Motorola quality:
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality

 3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

 Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect
 to fall over dead?

 Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.
  Makes us look like idiots.

 Mark


Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Radabaugh
And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….

Mark

 On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:
 
 Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't even 
 survive a few weeks???
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net 
 mailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:
 Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about 
 Motorola quality:  
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality 
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality
 
 3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.
 
 Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect to 
 fall over dead?
 
 Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   Makes 
 us look like idiots.
 
 Mark
 



Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-12 Thread Matt Mangriotis
We’re hard at work on this issue… lots of resources are digging into this as 
fast as possible to root cause.

I will update when we learn more.

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with 
ADI communication error

I had to yell on the list to get an answer.  At least they answered you without 
barking =(


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh 
m...@amplex.netmailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:
And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….

Mark

On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't even 
survive a few weeks???


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh 
m...@amplex.netmailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about Motorola 
quality:  
http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality

3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect to 
fall over dead?

Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   Makes us 
look like idiots.

Mark





Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-12 Thread Brian Sullivan
Thank you for chiming in on this.  We have had a few of these come up 
recently.


On 8/12/2015 12:07 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:


We’re hard at work on this issue… lots of resources are digging into 
this as fast as possible to root cause.


I will update when we learn more.

Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:55 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of 
days with ADI communication error


I had to yell on the list to get an answer.  At least they answered 
you without barking =(



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net 
mailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:


And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….

Mark

On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it
can't even survive a few weeks???


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh
m...@amplex.net mailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write
articles about Motorola quality:

http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality

3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these
can we expect to fall over dead?

Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in
10 days.   Makes us look like idiots.

Mark





Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-12 Thread Josh Luthman
The RMA or the ADI issue?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

 We’re hard at work on this issue… lots of resources are digging into this
 as fast as possible to root cause.



 I will update when we learn more.



 Matt



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:55 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days
 with ADI communication error



 I had to yell on the list to get an answer.  At least they answered you
 without barking =(




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

 And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….



 Mark



 On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:



 Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't even
 survive a few weeks???




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

 Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about
 Motorola quality:
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality

 3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

 Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect
 to fall over dead?

 Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.
  Makes us look like idiots.

 Mark









Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-12 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Actually, both… but I was referring to the actual product issue, resulting in 
the need for RMA.

The RMA process and forms are being reviewed also, and being worked by the 
right teams. (Different folks than are working on the product root cause… whew!)

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with 
ADI communication error

The RMA or the ADI issue?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com
 wrote:
We’re hard at work on this issue… lots of resources are digging into this as 
fast as possible to root cause.

I will update when we learn more.

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:55 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with 
ADI communication error

I had to yell on the list to get an answer.  At least they answered you without 
barking =(


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh 
m...@amplex.netmailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:
And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….

Mark

On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't even 
survive a few weeks???


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh 
m...@amplex.netmailto:m...@amplex.net wrote:
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about Motorola 
quality:  
http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality

3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.

Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect to 
fall over dead?

Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   Makes us 
look like idiots.

Mark






Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with ADI communication error

2015-08-12 Thread Tushar Patel
We had few failures too, I thought it was high too,  but some how my staff 
convinced me that it is not too high considering how many we have in the field. 

We will compile now how many from various batch.

Tushar


 On Aug 12, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:
 
 And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….
 
 Mark
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:
 
 Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't even 
 survive a few weeks???
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:
 Oh, how the mighty have fallen.People used to write articles about 
 Motorola quality:  
 http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality
 
 3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.
 
 Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we expect to 
 fall over dead?
 
 Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   Makes 
 us look like idiots.
 
 Mark