If Cambium waits just a little bit longer they can open a fabrication facility 
in Texas and hire the experienced Mexican crew - that used to assemble good 
radios :-)

Mark

> On Aug 18, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
> Well when you subcontract the manufacturing out to a competitor’s plant 
> (UBNT) there is always the possibility of sabotage too.
>  
> (can you spell T R O L L...   ;-)
>  
> From: Forrest Christian (List Account) <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with 
> "ADI communication error"
>  
> This smells like a similar problem for sure.
> Assuming that this is a manufacturing and not a design issue,  my guess is 
> that it's either some process causing a component crack (i.e. not properly 
> baking a moisture sensitive part before assembly..causing popcorning, or a 
> mechanical flex during separation), or possibly a counterfeit component.
> On Aug 18, 2015 11:16 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Is this a recurrence of the melting epoxy problem of 2009 (or whatever year 
>> it was)? With appropriate accommodations for changes in hardware?
>>  
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> 
>> On 8/12/2015 11:01 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
>>> Actually, both… but I was referring to the actual product issue, resulting 
>>> in the need for RMA.
>>>  
>>> The RMA process and forms are being reviewed also, and being worked by the 
>>> right teams. (Different folks than are working on the product root cause… 
>>> whew!)
>>>  
>>> Matt
>>>  
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:10 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with 
>>> "ADI communication error"
>>>  
>>> The RMA or the ADI issue?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
>>> <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com 
>>> <mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote:
>>>> We’re hard at work on this issue… lots of resources are digging into this 
>>>> as fast as possible to root cause.
>>>>  
>>>> I will update when we learn more.
>>>>  
>>>> Matt
>>>>  
>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:55 AM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days 
>>>> with "ADI communication error"
>>>>  
>>>> I had to yell on the list to get an answer.  At least they answered you 
>>>> without barking =(
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>  
>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net 
>>>> <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:
>>>>> And don’t get me started on the asinine, dog slow RMA process….
>>>>>  
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman < 
>>>>>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Lot of those threads popping up, too.  $400 for a radio and it can't 
>>>>>> even survive a few weeks???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh < 
>>>>>> <mailto:m...@amplex.net>m...@amplex.net <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh, how the mighty have fallen.    People used to write articles about 
>>>>>>> Motorola quality:   
>>>>>>> <http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality>http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <http://www.qualitymag.com/articles/84187-motorola-a-tradition-of-quality>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3 failed so far out of a 25 pack - no six Sigma here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear Cambium - what’s going on, and how many more of these can we 
>>>>>>> expect to fall over dead?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not cool when it happens to the same new customer twice in 10 days.   
>>>>>>> Makes us look like idiots.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>> 

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