Re: [xubuntu-users] Just to say THANK YOU to all for the help
On 9/9/24 05:45, Chris Green wrote: On Sun, Sep 08, 2024 at 09:39:05AM -0700, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 6:02 PM Steven Mainor wrote: I have to agree. I no longer use ubuntu because of snap. I personally left the windows/mac ecosystems behind decades ago in order to get away from these types of things. Technology doesn't have to be the enemy of liberty but it will be if we let it. I detest snaps in their current implementation - slow, clumsy, lots of files, bloated, etd. They do strike me as a good idea, just not yet ready for prime time. I use Firefox from the Mozilla repo for direct apt install/update. I don't use Thunderbird at all, and I have both snaps marked for "don't install". It's also somewhat clumsy to remove the snaps that come with *buntu, but done once correctly, they don't come back unless I let them. I have simply removed snapd, everything is fine without it. I don't use either Thunderbird or Firefox and I don't think there's anything else that needs snap, I haven't missed it anyway. I use Vivaldi as my browser and that simply has its own PPA that works fine. The only other thing that might have used snap (but doesn't) is Digikam which comes as an appimage which works fine though I do have to D-I-Y updates. Clear out the snap directory using 'snap remove' (if I remember right), then 'apt purge snapd' and it's all gone. There's a few other bits and pieces you can lear out too. You can't remove libsnapd-glib as lots of things depend on it for some reason but it's removing snapd that actually disables the whole snap mess. Or simply move to a Debian based distro such as Debian it self or nix os or Rhino which I am quite impressed with except for the wall papers :-) -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Just to say THANK YOU to all for the help
On 9/9/24 04:38, Joao Monteiro wrote: It seems to a lot of us, that you are bang on right, Alex... financial greed always screws up everything because it makes humans behave like horses with side blunds, capable only of seeing what's right in front of their miope eyes... the immediate profit... oh well... let them be... they'll unavoidable meet their extinction while the survivors will carry on bringing forth true progress and innovation. Sadly a truth that we the minority have to live with. that said the glory of open software means we can always move to another distro da kiwi On Sun, 8 Sept 2024, 17:13 Alex Johns, wrote: On 9/8/24 20:19, Joao Monteiro wrote: I think it's getting to everybody, to one degree or another... I went through many distros before settling for xubuntu when I moved away from windows many moons ago... and all this snapping is bringing back bad memories, so chances are good that I too will be moving away 😪 On Sun, 8 Sept 2024, 01:01 Alex Johns, wrote: On 9/8/24 10:14, Eddie wrote: I have appreciated this mail list and its members but the SNAPPING finally got to me and I have migrated to Debian 12.7. My best to all of you!! Eddie As it has to a lot of us Cheers da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users It seems to me that Canonical no longer has the interests of it's users at heart but is making it's decisions solely for it's corporate users. just my 2c worth da kiwi who has moved to Rhino Linux -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Just to say THANK YOU to all for the help
On 9/8/24 20:19, Joao Monteiro wrote: I think it's getting to everybody, to one degree or another... I went through many distros before settling for xubuntu when I moved away from windows many moons ago... and all this snapping is bringing back bad memories, so chances are good that I too will be moving away 😪 On Sun, 8 Sept 2024, 01:01 Alex Johns, wrote: On 9/8/24 10:14, Eddie wrote: I have appreciated this mail list and its members but the SNAPPING finally got to me and I have migrated to Debian 12.7. My best to all of you!! Eddie As it has to a lot of us Cheers da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users It seems to me that Canonical no longer has the interests of it's users at heart but is making it's decisions solely for it's corporate users. just my 2c worth da kiwi who has moved to Rhino Linux -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Just to say THANK YOU to all for the help
On 9/8/24 10:14, Eddie wrote: I have appreciated this mail list and its members but the SNAPPING finally got to me and I have migrated to Debian 12.7. My best to all of you!! Eddie As it has to a lot of us Cheers da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Any problems upgrading from 22.04 to 24.04.1?
On 9/4/24 09:48, Jeffery Small wrote: Victor Forberger writes: The switch to mostly snaps could be smoother This raises a big issue. I want to avoid snap packages. Is there a way to ensure that this will be the case and force the use of deb packages? Is there a list of packages that are being switched to snap? After all these years, the Firefox snap package STILL doesn't work if you have a non-standard HOME directory -- and I do. I'm not interested in finding out what else won't work. Disabling all non-ubuntu PPA ... Yes, I expect that. That has been SOP for a long time. Thanks to everyone who responded so far. Keep those cards and letters coming in! :-) Regards, -- Jeffery Small juse Linux mint. snap free but still an ubuntu base I use the mate desktop. very fasr cheers da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] No display on boot-up
On 6/17/24 20:21, David Wright wrote: On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 08:42, Alex Johns wrote: Can I suggest then that you try editing the line I suggested and removing quiet splash and adding nomodset noacpi in the past that has solved many boot issues for me good luck cheers Chris Hi Chris That has worked! Thank you! For my education, what exactly have we done there? I did see upon reboot that the scary lines of code are all visible, which I think is the removal of 'quiet splash' but what does 'nomodset' and 'noacpi' do? And am I okay leaving those in the file forever, no untoward effects? Many thanks Dave Hi Dave glad you have got it booting Removing quiet splash means you can see the code on the screen and if there is an issue in the boot process it will stop at the line which is causing the problem which gives you a chance to sort out the issue. No modeset means don't try to force a display resolution ie don't set the graphic's card resolution. It will default to it's native resolution No acpi means don't try to set the acpi power configuration interface. Generally I have found that the ubuntu installer seems to run into trouble with those two parameters. However once you have got an install, you can usually boot normally as the installed system has enough drivers to sort it all out. A simplistic way of putting it. I f you can not boot normally once the system has been installed to the hard drive then you will have to include that line in your grub config which can be found in etc/default /grub, and you will need to copy it first to your desktop using sudo thunar to copy. Then using mousepad to edit the line. keep the updated grub off the system to keep it safe in case you ever need it again. Once you have edited the file replace it in /etc/default using sudo Thunar and reboot. If you have replaced the grub file then you need to run sudo update-grub to reset the boot parameters I have included an attachment of one of my versions of grub which may suit your purposes if you can't boot normally. Good luck and let me know how it goes cheers chris # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update # /boot/grub/grub.cfg. # For full documentation of the options in this file, see: # info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=noacpi nomodset"" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false # Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs # This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains # the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...) #GRUB_BADRAM="0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef" # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console # The resolution used on graphical terminal # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' GRUB_GFXMODE=800x600 # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true # Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries #GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start #GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1" -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] No display on boot-up
On 6/17/24 18:23, David Wright wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 at 19:28, Alex Johns wrote: On 6/16/24 03:15, David Wright wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 at 02:12, Phil wrote: On 6/14/24 22:00, David Wright wrote: > Hi all > > On Saturday 8th June, I booted up my PC and it was fine for the couple > of hours of use. > > Next boot-up on Monday 10th June, the monitor showed no display > found. I forced a reboot into recovery mode and then it booted fine. I had exactly the same problem and this is how I solved it: Edit /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT='quiet splash' Change to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT='quiet' sudo update-grub -- Regards, Phil Many thanks for the quick reply Phil, unfortunately that's not worked for me. Same result, black screen and have to force a reboot into recovery mode. Hopefully there are other ideas? Kind regards David Are you using a commercial display driver eg Nvidia or Radeon, if so edit the grub line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= and add no acpi to the end of that line. taking out the 'quiet' so you can see the boot process and where it might be hanging up. See if it will boot then and if it doesn't boot to the desktop and your your still looking at a black screen then do a ctrl F1 and at the terminal type sudo purge Nvidiia*.* or the Radeon equivalent. see if that helps. It will knock out the commercial graphics drivers and let Wayland take over. I always remove quiet splash from the grub CMDLINE as I prefer to see any issues as the machine boots. Good luck Chris da kiwi -- Hi Chris No commercial drivers in use here. No dedicated graphics card at all. just use the onboard which is more than sufficient for my needs. Many thanks Dave Can I suggest then that you try editing the line I suggested and removing quiet splash and adding nomodset noacpi in the past that has solved many boot issues for me good luck cheers Chris -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] No display on boot-up
On 6/16/24 03:15, David Wright wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 at 02:12, Phil wrote: On 6/14/24 22:00, David Wright wrote: > Hi all > > On Saturday 8th June, I booted up my PC and it was fine for the couple > of hours of use. > > Next boot-up on Monday 10th June, the monitor showed no display > found. I forced a reboot into recovery mode and then it booted fine. I had exactly the same problem and this is how I solved it: Edit /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT='quiet splash' Change to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT='quiet' sudo update-grub -- Regards, Phil Many thanks for the quick reply Phil, unfortunately that's not worked for me. Same result, black screen and have to force a reboot into recovery mode. Hopefully there are other ideas? Kind regards David Are you using a commercial display driver eg Nvidia or Radeon, if so edit the grub line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= and add no acpi to the end of that line. taking out the 'quiet' so you can see the boot process and where it might be hanging up. See if it will boot then and if it doesn't boot to the desktop and your your still looking at a black screen then do a ctrl F1 and at the terminal type sudo purge Nvidiia*.* or the Radeon equivalent. see if that helps. It will knock out the commercial graphics drivers and let Wayland take over. I always remove quiet splash from the grub CMDLINE as I prefer to see any issues as the machine boots. Good luck Chris da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Login fails on Xubuntu 24.04 VirtualBox VM
On 6/7/24 14:16, MR ZenWiz wrote: I tried installing xubuntu 24.04 in a virtualbox VM, and it installed fine. However, after installation, I cannot login. I enter my password, it accepts this, starts to bring up the main window, and drops back to the login screen. It never gets logged in for real. I asked about this on the Ubuntu mailing list and the answer seems to be related to Wayland vs. Xorg, but the answers are all regarding gdm3, which xubuntu does not use. Anyone else seeing this? Any idea why? How do I force an Xorg login instead of a Wayland one on Xubuntu? Thanks. Mark Can you get to recovery mode when you first boot up. Hold down the shift key as it is booting then choose recovery mode and see if that takes you to the recovery menu. from there you can change passwords, reinstall grub etc. Wally -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Software & Updates > Download > Other > Select Best Server
On 23/12/23 05:25, Charles M wrote: Software & Updates lets you specify a particular server to pull from if you choose: Software & Updates > Download > Other We are in Southern Ontario, Canada, one city away from Waterloo, Ontario. By default, Xubuntu shows "Server for Canada" in this field. When I choose Other I can manually pick from servers in Canada, or elsewhere if I desired... but there's also a button in the top right of the window that apparently tests for the best server. The button is labelled Select Best Server, and when you click on it, the system runs some (presumably) speed tests. I figured this might choose one of the Canadian servers, likely the one closest to me, but it ended up picking a server in Iran the first time, in Bulgaria the second time I tested, and a server in the U.S. the third time (at least that's a bit closer). I'm thinking there might be a bug in the software. I suppose those servers could be faster than the Canadian mirrors, but it is strange that every time it's something different... It would be interesting to see if others have similar results. Cheers, Charles p.s. using Xubuntu 22.04 It depends on the time of day and how much traffic is on the net. I never found that button of any great value, and generally pic our local university which is 50k away. Seems to work well Cheers da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Partition problem!
On 25/11/23 10:03, Gérald Jean wrote: Hello everyone, I am stuck in some sort of a mess! I mostly run Xubuntu 22.04, it's in dual boot with Debian 10. Both are installed on the same SSD, 250 GB. It ran well for a few years, before 22.04, I had 20.04. But about a month ago Xubuntu wouldn't boot anymore. After some searching and booting in rescue mode I found out it was out of space. Since then I run Debian but I like my Xubuntu. Attached I have a snapshot of what my partitions look like. Xubuntu is on /dev/sda5, which I temporarily mounted from Debian to see I could get rid of stuff, I can't really, it's pretty much all system stuff, and on my "home", Thunderbird is taking over 3Gb, the rest is small. Debian is on /dev/sda7 and /dev/sda6 is for backing up an HDD which is also mounted at startup. As you can see I have unallocated space at the end, apparently it can't be merged since one partition is logical and the other primary. I thought that if there was a way to merge them, I would roughly get 45 Gb of free space, which would be enough for Xubuntu IF SOMEONE COULD EXPLAIN TO ME HOW TO MOVE IT THERE I would appreciate any insights, thanks, Gérald Download a copy of gparted and use it to move stuff around -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] unable to install grub
On 2/02/23 08:29, Clarence Fender wrote: Yes, this is an install from a USB. If it's supposed to install GRUB by itself, it's doing a very poor job :) I have a 500M EFI partition. It fails. sda - all primary partitions 1M (appears by itself, no format) 500M EFI 50G ext4 / 16M swap remainder of space ext4 but not mounted Thanks. Have you checksumed the ISO? SHA256 I have had these type of issues when the ISO was corrupt Also I have found that Rufus or Ventoy are best for writing ISO to USB keys if you have a windows partition available or gnome disks. Some programmes don't write the ISO correctly da cyborg -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] file system window read-only
On 6/11/22 07:43, Alessandro Lin wrote: Hallo, I have a problem with read-only filesystem. I describe neatly: I installed XUBUNTU 22 on a new desktop. Windows 10 already pre-installed. Before: I created a partition for xubuntu. I turned off Windows 10 quick start I disabled Bitlocker and decrypted the disk. Well, now xubuntu works and also windows 10 Xubuntu 22 does not have a good support for Italian language, while Xubuntu 20 had it but it is a thing of little importance. Now The Windows disk partition is read-only. This is my problem. List all of the mounted file systems: /$ mount/ ... etc. etc. /dev/sda3 on /media/alex/B87A648A7A64476A type fuseblk (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2) ... etc. etc. The Windows partition /dev/sda3 is read-only. To have read / write I can try : sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda3 /media/alex/B87A648A7A64476A Is correct? The Windows partition is read-only for some reason. If I mount it in read-write mode, do any collateral problems arise? Thank you my win 10 partition is mounted rw, and has given me no issues. cheers da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Xubuntu 20.04 Install Issue
On 21/09/22 10:51, Dick Steffens wrote: On 9/20/22 15:49, Alex Johns wrote: On 21/09/22 05:17, Dick Steffens wrote: I am trying to install Xubuntu 20.04 on a Lenovo Ideapad 330. The base install worked fine. It asked me if I wanted to install updates. I said yes. It proceeded to do that for a lot of minutes (I was reading news on another computer, so I don't know exactly how long). At some point the screen went blank. I waited for another long bit of minutes and tried moving the mouse, thinking it might be a screen saver issue, but with no results. I can see the mouse pointer, but get no response to clicks. I powered down and back up. The screen shows the Lenovo splash image, then the xubuntu logo with the arc chasing around in a circle, then the list of journal recovery stuff, then a blank screen with the clock in the upper right hand corner, and then a blank screen with the mouse pointer. Any ideas on where to start to look to solve this one? Do a complete reinstall, but turn off the screen saver before you install. Worked for me I'll keep that in mind if I run into this again. I solved the problem by purging the nVidia driver and going with the Nouveau driver. Thanks for the advice. -- Regards, Dick Steffens your welcome -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Xubuntu 20.04 Install Issue
On 21/09/22 05:17, Dick Steffens wrote: I am trying to install Xubuntu 20.04 on a Lenovo Ideapad 330. The base install worked fine. It asked me if I wanted to install updates. I said yes. It proceeded to do that for a lot of minutes (I was reading news on another computer, so I don't know exactly how long). At some point the screen went blank. I waited for another long bit of minutes and tried moving the mouse, thinking it might be a screen saver issue, but with no results. I can see the mouse pointer, but get no response to clicks. I powered down and back up. The screen shows the Lenovo splash image, then the xubuntu logo with the arc chasing around in a circle, then the list of journal recovery stuff, then a blank screen with the clock in the upper right hand corner, and then a blank screen with the mouse pointer. Any ideas on where to start to look to solve this one? Do a complete reinstall, but turn off the screen saver before you install. Worked for me cheers da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] gimp-helping "not available" ...in Firefox 104.0.1
On 5/09/22 22:07, Hans Schneidhofer wrote: Hi, I think my next distribution for all my work will be even debian. Because there are no needs for snap or flatpak. My other PC with debian 11 works now for years with soundstudio - without aany problems. I think I will also convert my current and last Xubuntu PC to debian. With debian deb-packages can be installed as usual without all the big problems that snap and flatpack bring with them. Such limitations as Ubuntu currently has in my daily work are really not very usefull I gave up Windows years ago because I didn't find any restrictions in Linux for a long time, But I have the impression that Ubuntu is starting to become more and more commercialized and wants to do its own thing. This is not a good development for Linux. But it is only my opinion. bye hans * Am Montag, den 05.09.2022, 10:02 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On 5. Sep 2022, at 09:35, Peter Flynn wrote: On 5 September 2022 06:07:27 Michael Hoehne wrote: Snaps are not allowed to use "/tmp" because of security issues. Does this mean (for example) that I would not be able to Save As... to /tmp (eg an image). If so, I'm going to need a snap-free distribution. That kind of restriction is fine for the amateur or novice, but has no place in the ecology otherwise. Hi, the good news, you can still save an image to /tmp, maybe not an image shown by firefox, but by any app that isn’t a snap. The bad news, outside of the Ubuntu flavour universe snaps aren’t accepted, due to the bad design. Alternatives such as flatpak are at least a little bit tolerated. That snaps are advertised to be supported by other distros is a blatant lie. The snap infrastructure might be available by other distros, but snaps are usually unwanted. https://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2022-September/030839.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2022-September/012659.html There are countless other issues caused by flatpak and Co., but especially by snaps. To my knowledge it’s the worst of all. I need a snap free distribution, not because I care about the tmp issue, just because I want a real long term support distribution without regular packages that are replaced by a snap, flatpak or Co. thingy. IOW I don’t know what distro to use for this purpose in the future, but it will not be Unbuntu with snaps. Regards, Ralf Agreed. I have moved to Debian 11 for this reason. I use Librewolf as a browser which /is available as a deb package Chris NZ -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Please help
Try Ubuntu Mate 22.04 Have had trouble with an early Toshiba. but Mate sorted it -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Please help
On 20/06/22 05:20, Donny Turang wrote: hi, can anyone help? I have many times installed xubuntu 20.04 LTS on acer aspire 4750 laptop. What happens is that it boots very slowly. Likewise for shutdown. In addition, the wifi on the laptop cannot be connected. This is my brief explanation. Hopefully someone can help. Thank you have you thought of trying 22.04? -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Cursor frozen after switch to console and back
On 1/05/22 09:05, Chris Green wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2022 at 08:16:25AM +1200, Alex Johns wrote: On 1/05/22 04:08, Chris Green wrote: If I switch to a console login by using CTRL+ALT+Fn (where n is 1 to 6) and then return to the GUI with CTRL+ALT+F7 my cursor is frozen, I can no longer move it. This is on a Lenovo T470 running xubuntu 21.10. I've not noticed this problem before but it's not something I do often so I don't really know when it started. Interesting, I have just done the same on my Metabox i9 with the same result, frozen cursor. Except this is with Ubuntu Mate 22.04 OP here again, it's not wholly consistent, sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. Interesting to hear it still happens on 22.04. Chris again My impression of 22.04 is that it is buggy as all get out. So much so that I am rolling back to 21.10 which gave me no issues at all. -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Cursor frozen after switch to console and back
On 1/05/22 04:08, Chris Green wrote: If I switch to a console login by using CTRL+ALT+Fn (where n is 1 to 6) and then return to the GUI with CTRL+ALT+F7 my cursor is frozen, I can no longer move it. This is on a Lenovo T470 running xubuntu 21.10. I've not noticed this problem before but it's not something I do often so I don't really know when it started. Interesting, I have just done the same on my Metabox i9 with the same result, frozen cursor. Except this is with Ubuntu Mate 22.04 cheers Chris -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Webcam w/Cheese problems;
On 30/04/22 02:13, Ted Pomeroy wrote: Xubuntu friends, It seems that the Preview in Cheese is indeed black and white and striated, but photos taken are in color and clear. Also camera with web conferencing is clear and accurate. So, I can wait for resolution of this issue and will also keep track of changes in behavior of the Cheese app. I use Cheese to test and tune the camera for conferencing, but will not do that for now. As the camera seems to work well enough, I will wait for feedback from conferences to see if the inuse images are okay. Thank you, Ted P., Santa Fe, NM I dropped Cheese in favour of Webcamoid which seems to perform correctly cheers Chris -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Ubuntu 20.04 and Firefox 90.0.2
On 13/08/21 8:09 am, Hund wrote: On August 12, 2021 9:22:27 PM GMT+02:00, Alex Johns wrote: So use palemoon a geko based browser with very good security There is a deb package put up by Steve Purser. da kiwi That's another web browser I cannot recommend. The persons behind it are rather hostile and not friendly at all. Just look how they treated the FreeBSD guys[1]. Spoiler: Palemoon is no longer available in FreeBSD and will never be. This is the case for 99% of all others as well[2]. The reason that no one's including the web browser in their repos is not only because of how they treat everyone, it's because of their proprietary bulls**t license[3] that no one wants to poke at, not even with a stick. If you look up Palemoon on the web you will find a lot more drama surrounding them. 1. https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86 2. https://repology.org/project/palemoon/versions 3. https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml -- Hund So what? There are flame wars all over the web. it is a good secure browser that does what I need and is better than Waterfox. So what are your credentials for making the statements you do? I have no credentials at all am and just a luser, but I know what works. As an aside the local Linux users group which includes a number of sysops for major NZ business have switched to Palemoon because of the mess Mozilla has made of Firefox trying to compete with Chrome. da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Ubuntu 20.04 and Firefox 90.0.2
On 13/08/21 3:33 am, Hund wrote: On August 12, 2021 4:16:31 PM GMT+02:00, Kaj Haulrich wrote: So what? - Chrome is made by Google, Edge by Microsoft and Firefox by Mozilla. Choose the one that works best. Kaj Haulrich. Gab are "free speech extremists", but perhaps you're okay supporting someone who's promotion the right to shout bad words at peoples faces just because it's "free speech"? I don't recommend Chrome, Chromium or Edge either. They're all made by highly malicious and unethical companies. Firefox is the only one that I do recommend. It's far from perfect, but Mozilla is the least unethical company. Them taking money from Google and spending it all on their CEO is crappy, but they're at least not treating our free world, our democracy and the open source movement like the other two are. -- Hund So use palemoon a geko based browser with very good security There is a deb package put up by Steve Purser. da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Ubuntu 20.04 and Firefox 90.0.2
On 12/08/21 10:09 pm, Hund wrote: On August 11, 2021 9:25:48 PM GMT+02:00, Karel P Coors wrote: That sounds like a great tip. Downloaded Dissenter Browser and enjoying it Cheers Are you aware of the fact that the Dissenter Browser is made by Gab? -- Hund Which means what exactly? da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Error in .xsession-errors after upgrade to 21.04 - due to Wayland?
On 16/05/21 8:19 am, Chris Green wrote: On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 06:36:27AM +1200, Alex Johns wrote: On 15/05/21 11:07 pm, Chris Green wrote: I'm seeing the following errors in .xsession-errors on my recently upgraded to 21.04 xubuntu system:- dbus-update-activation-environment: setting DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus dbus-update-activation-environment: setting DISPLAY=:0 dbus-update-activation-environment: setting XAUTHORITY=/home/chris/.Xauthority /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources: line 16: has_option: command not found /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch: line 9: has_option: command not found gpgconf: running /usr/bin/gpg-agent failed (exitcode=2): General error gpgconf: fatal error (exit status 1) dbus-update-activation-environment: setting QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent: line 9: has_option: command not found dbus-update-activation-environment: setting SHELL=/bin/bash dbus-update-activation-environment: setting QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 The 'setting' lines are as expected but not 'has_option: command not found' nor the gpgconf one. I don't see any of these errors on my other system which is still running 20.10. Looking at the X configuration in /etc/X11 I see that the has_option() function has been moved and (obviously) for some reason the place it has been moved to is either not being run at all or isn't being run before the function is used. I've searched and can't find any references to has_option() errors, should I report it as a bug and, if so, where? Is it worth using Synaptic and the fix broken option? I know there are still issues with NVIDIA cards and Wayland, so much so with my system I had to nuke it and do a reinstall from a usb key, after removing the .cache and .config files from my ~/ directory. Also with the terminal is it worth copying the bashrc files over from the unbroken system? The system works OK, I'm just wondering whether to report the errors. I would, as it helps the Dev's to sort out these issues. To be fair I have now moved to Ubuntu-Mate as I was getting too many funny things happening with Xubuntu on my latest lappy. cheers -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Error in .xsession-errors after upgrade to 21.04 - due to Wayland?
On 15/05/21 11:07 pm, Chris Green wrote: I'm seeing the following errors in .xsession-errors on my recently upgraded to 21.04 xubuntu system:- dbus-update-activation-environment: setting DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus dbus-update-activation-environment: setting DISPLAY=:0 dbus-update-activation-environment: setting XAUTHORITY=/home/chris/.Xauthority /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources: line 16: has_option: command not found /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch: line 9: has_option: command not found gpgconf: running /usr/bin/gpg-agent failed (exitcode=2): General error gpgconf: fatal error (exit status 1) dbus-update-activation-environment: setting QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent: line 9: has_option: command not found dbus-update-activation-environment: setting SHELL=/bin/bash dbus-update-activation-environment: setting QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1 The 'setting' lines are as expected but not 'has_option: command not found' nor the gpgconf one. I don't see any of these errors on my other system which is still running 20.10. Looking at the X configuration in /etc/X11 I see that the has_option() function has been moved and (obviously) for some reason the place it has been moved to is either not being run at all or isn't being run before the function is used. I've searched and can't find any references to has_option() errors, should I report it as a bug and, if so, where? Is it worth using Synaptic and the fix broken option? I know there are still issues with NVIDIA cards and Wayland, so much so with my system I had to nuke it and do a reinstall from a usb key, after removing the .cache and .config files from my ~/ directory. Also with the terminal is it worth copying the bashrc files over from the unbroken system? luck cheers Chris -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] How to undo 21.04's reverse video for pasted text?
On 15/05/21 8:54 am, Chris Green wrote: On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 07:45:44AM +1200, Alex Johns wrote: On 15/05/21 4:38 am, Chris Green wrote: I have just upgraded my laptop from 20.10 to 21.04 and pasted text now appears in reverse video in my terminal windows, how do I undo this unwanted change? I want pasted text in normal video. open a terminal, and under edit>profile Preferences there are settings to alter how text appears I've tried looking there (in preferences) but there doesn't seem to be a setting which would affect pasted text, unless I'm being very silly. what video card are you using? I dimly remember a similar problem many years back and solved it by purging the NVIDIA drivers and reinstalling -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] When will 21.04 get out of development?
On 5/05/21 8:01 am, Clarence Fender wrote: I read there was a problem serious enough to hold things back. I'm content to wait. ymmv On 5/4/21 3:58 PM, Chris Green wrote: Version 21.04 has been released for just about two weeks now but I'm still getting "No new release found." when I try do-relase-upgrade, when is it likely to be 'fully' released? (I do have Prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades) I believe that it is common to all the Ubuntus -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [lfs-support] LFS translation to Ancient Greek completed
On 1/04/21 11:32 pm, Rob Hudson wrote: Tim Tassonis wrote: It took me a while, but I now finally completed my translation of the LFS book into Ancient Greek. It is based on LFS 10.0, and only the sysv version is done yet, Systemd is still pending due to ancient greek only having capital letters. Ha. Very good. You actually did have me going there, for a while. Me too! -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
Re: [xubuntu-users] MFP aus hplip installieren
On 11/12/20 2:29 am, Dr. Heiko Pollmeier wrote: I have the Problem to install the appropriate printer driver for my hp laserjet MFPrinter M28a in xubuntu 20.04 Printing works out of the box, but no scanning ist possible. I tried several version of hplip 3.20 and hplip 3.19. They all told me that some qt5 things were missing but without naming the missing files or libraries. Any help? I had the same issue with 20.04, and found no solution. I installed 20.10, and the hplip drivers worked as they should. It is something to do with the qt files not being available in 20.04 Cheers da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] VLC 3.0.9.2 and .mkv-Files
On 5/10/20 8:31 am, Hans Schneidhofer wrote: hi list, I can hear the tone (music) but can NOT see the Video. How can I see the pictures i.e the Video ? Do I have to make some settings in VLC, so I can see the pictures ? My installed linux is : Linux 5.4.0-48-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 10 10:58:49 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Processor is a AMD X4 8GB RAM Graphic-card : AMD Opal XT [Radeon R7 M265/M365X/M465] Hope, anybody can help ? bye hans Have you installed or the video codecs? also Xubuntu extras from the repository -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Problem dialog on every start?
On 30/04/20 4:53 pm, Michael Höhne wrote: Hello Uninstalling "apport" will end these Messages. The Job of "apport" is to send a message to the Ubuntu-developers if a system-error occurs. Often there are errors which cause no _real_problems_ but "apport" tries to send a message every time. Uninstalling "apport" ist one of the first things I do, after installung Xubuntu. Regards, Michael exactly, or disabling it by setting it to zero da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Problem dialog on every start?
On 30/04/20 1:21 pm, Alex Johns wrote: On 30/04/20 12:31 pm, Knute Johnson wrote: I get a dialog on every start. It says "System program problem detected - Do you want to report the problem now?" It doesn't do anything else if I click Cancel or Report problem... This is a new install of Xubuntu 19.10. I've seen this before. I have another Xubuntu 19.10 that was upgraded from several versions back and it used to have the problem but it went away at some point (helpful I know). Any ideas what causes it and how to make it go away? Thanks, Using thunar, go to Files system >etc>default>apport and change the 1 at the bottom of the list to zero. End of problem OOps, needs sudo thunar! sorry about that da kiwi -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] Problem dialog on every start?
On 30/04/20 12:31 pm, Knute Johnson wrote: I get a dialog on every start. It says "System program problem detected - Do you want to report the problem now?" It doesn't do anything else if I click Cancel or Report problem... This is a new install of Xubuntu 19.10. I've seen this before. I have another Xubuntu 19.10 that was upgraded from several versions back and it used to have the problem but it went away at some point (helpful I know). Any ideas what causes it and how to make it go away? Thanks, Using thunar, go to Files system >etc>default>apport and change the 1 at the bottom of the list to zero. End of problem -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: Anarchists' cookbook
Cue to Chuck Heston running down the street: "It's People!! Anarchists are people!!!" > I hear they're quite tasty with a little fresh ground black pepper. > > > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:13:43 -0700 (MST) John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why would you want to cook anarchists? > > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > can and will you send me the anarchists cookbook > > > > The Internet must be a medium for it is neither Rare nor Well done! > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">John Galt