[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User mru changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|VERIFIED |CLOSED --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Mar 24 12:37:35 + 2009 --- Checked in OOO 3.1 dev build OOO310m6. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User mru changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|RESOLVED |VERIFIED Issue type|FEATURE |TASK --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Dec 18 14:46:31 + 2008 --- As long as this issue handles the same as issue 70748, and there is already a spec linked to it, I mark this issue as Task. Verified in CWS outlinelevel. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from warne...@openoffice.org Fri Dec 19 07:11:01 + 2008 --- -OD. Will verify check as soon as I can find an installer with this version. My main concerns are that: - If I have a Heading 1 in Chapter 1, numbered 1.1, and I cut and paste this to appendix 1, is should automatically be numbered A.1. - I need to be able to define table, figure, map plate numbering that is independant of heading numbering, but increments inside chapters. So if the first FIGURE appears under a Heading 3 item that is numbered 5.2.3, then I would expect the figure to be numbered 5.1. - If I change the top level heading format in a chapter from 'Chapter' to 'Appendix', all sub-headings should automatically change appropriately (g. from '5.2.3' to 'A.2.3'). - The ability to construct a List-of-Figures (and List-of-Plates etc) that works like a TOC, but for the specified paragraph types. - The ability to have sub-figures (eg. Fig 1(a)) that function similarly to paragraphs in terms of counter incrementing etc. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 This issue depends on issue 70748, which changed state: What|Old value |New value Status|STARTED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User od changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 10 15:12:21 + 2008 --- main stuff done in cws outlinelevel. OD-warnerpj: I do not understand your proposed options. But, when I had a look a your example document content and the expected table of content of this document content, then I can say that such a table of content should be possible with the new outline level feature. We should create a real document with your example document content and make it happen, when this cws is integrated. Perhaps we will find out, that something is missing. Then we can better talk about it and implement it in the next version. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User od changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|zhaojianwei |mru --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 10 15:13:39 + 2008 --- OD-MRU: Please verify. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 18 10:41:20 + 2008 --- Oops sorry for double post; the first time produced an error so I resubmitted. Also, noticed this in my example ToC: This is just some body text, I wont add more. Needless to say, it should not be there. FWIW, I am very happy to expand this in to a more detailed spec if you see any value in it. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 18 01:26:50 + 2008 --- Hi, thanks for the reply. I am not sure that the spec fully addresses my, or the OPs, suggestions. I can't see how it makes figures, tables, lists, appendices or list-of-figures etc any easier. It might help if I give an example of an outline as I would like to see it work (see below). If you think the spec makes it easy to do what I describe, then great. But from my reading of the spec, and based on the example (below), what I think is needed is one of the following options: Option 1 (a) Associate a paragraph format with a specific counter. This counter will increment each time any paragraph format that references it is used. (b) Allow the specification of a parent counter in a paragraph style. When the parent increments, the child is reset. (c) eg. 'Chapter' could have counter name 'ChapterCounter', parent 'None'. 'Heading1' would have counter name 'Heading1Counter', parent 'ChapterCounter', 'Heading2' would have 'Heading2Counter', parent 'Heading1Counter'. (d) Based on the example, 'Heading1Bold' format would share counter 'Heading1Counter', parent 'ChapterCounter' (e) Figure would have 'FigureCounter', parent 'ChapterCounter' (f) Remove the 'Outline Level' from the paragraph format. It is determined from the inheritance of the counters. (g) Add a 'Numbering Format' setting to the paragraph style to set the format of the current level. Other formats inherited from parent (this makes the Appendix formats work). ie. heading1 inside appendix would be numbered A-1. I would suggest adding parenting options to the existing counters dialog, rather than the paragraph dialog since the parenting should not be different across different formats. Option 2. - (a) not only associate a level with a paragraph format, but also associate a user-defined, named, 'CounterFamily' with the format. (b) Each style can specify an optional parent counter family and parent level. (c) chapter/heading style paragraphs are just in one family with no parent. (d) figures/tables/plates/maps would each have their own family, with a parent of 'Chapter/Heading familt, level 1'. (e) Build ToC, LoF, LoT etc based on selected paragraph styles at each level (manually selected). Allow multiple different formats at same level (eg. Heading1Bold, below) (f) Add a 'Numbering Format' setting to the paragraph style to set the format of the current level. Other formats inherited from parent (this makes the Appendix formats work). Example of desired outcome == Chapter 1. This is paragraph format 'Chapter'. 1.1 This is format 'Heading 1'. First digit is from 'Chapter' This is just some body text, I wont add more. 1.1.1 This is 'Heading 2'. Inherits from 'Heading 1' Figure 1-1. This is paragraph format 'Figure'. Inherits from 'Chapter' 1.2 Another H1 (1) This is format 'list'. (2) list items should auto number as nicely as paragraphs. 1.3 Another H1 (here just to show how figures work, see below). Figure 1-2. 'Figure' again. Note the counter is independant of 'Heading 1' (1) Another list. They should also reset to (1) (2) ...either inside any outline style, (3) ...or by some setting in the paragraph style (checkbox?). (4) ...so you would define a ListFirst and a List style. *1.4* The is 'Heading1Bold' style. See the TOC, below. Chapter 2. Nothing really to see here. Move on to appendix. Appendix A. This would just be a format inherited from Chapter, I expect. A.1 Heading 1. ie. Heading 1 inherits outer number from parent. A.2 ...I guess worst case we could define HeadingAppendix1 paragraph format. Figure A-1. Just like the figures above. Figure A-1(a). A format 'Sub-Figure' Table A-1. Should have mentioned this earlier Map A-1. ...there is a huge variety of things that should be Plate A-1 ...independantly numbered, with the possibility Plate A-1(a) ...of sub numbering. In the TOC we would have: TOC === Chapter 1. This is paragraph format 'Chapter'. 1.1 This is format 'Heading 1'. First digit is from 'Chapter' This is just some body text, I wont add more. 1.1.1 This is 'Heading 2'. Inherits from 'Heading 1' 1.2 Another H1 1.3 Another H1 (here just to show how figures work, see below). *1.4* The is 'Heading1Bold' style. See the TOC, below. Chapter 2. Nothing really to see here. Move on to appendix. Appendix A. This would just be a format inherited from Chapter, I expect. A.1 Heading 1. ie. Heading 1 inherits outer number from parent. A.2 ...I guess worst case we could define HeadingAppendix1 paragraph format. In the List-of-Figures we would have: Figure 1-1. This is paragraph format Figures. Inherits from 'Chapter' Figure 1-2. 'Figure' again. Note the counter is independant of 'Heading 1' Figure A-1. Just like the figures above. Figure A-1(a). A format 'Sub-Figure' And we
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 18 01:27:27 + 2008 --- Hi, thanks for the reply. I am not sure that the spec fully addresses my, or the OPs, suggestions. I can't see how it makes figures, tables, lists, appendices or list-of-figures etc any easier. It might help if I give an example of an outline as I would like to see it work (see below). If you think the spec makes it easy to do what I describe, then great. But from my reading of the spec, and based on the example (below), what I think is needed is one of the following options: Option 1 (a) Associate a paragraph format with a specific counter. This counter will increment each time any paragraph format that references it is used. (b) Allow the specification of a parent counter in a paragraph style. When the parent increments, the child is reset. (c) eg. 'Chapter' could have counter name 'ChapterCounter', parent 'None'. 'Heading1' would have counter name 'Heading1Counter', parent 'ChapterCounter', 'Heading2' would have 'Heading2Counter', parent 'Heading1Counter'. (d) Based on the example, 'Heading1Bold' format would share counter 'Heading1Counter', parent 'ChapterCounter' (e) Figure would have 'FigureCounter', parent 'ChapterCounter' (f) Remove the 'Outline Level' from the paragraph format. It is determined from the inheritance of the counters. (g) Add a 'Numbering Format' setting to the paragraph style to set the format of the current level. Other formats inherited from parent (this makes the Appendix formats work). ie. heading1 inside appendix would be numbered A-1. I would suggest adding parenting options to the existing counters dialog, rather than the paragraph dialog since the parenting should not be different across different formats. Option 2. - (a) not only associate a level with a paragraph format, but also associate a user-defined, named, 'CounterFamily' with the format. (b) Each style can specify an optional parent counter family and parent level. (c) chapter/heading style paragraphs are just in one family with no parent. (d) figures/tables/plates/maps would each have their own family, with a parent of 'Chapter/Heading familt, level 1'. (e) Build ToC, LoF, LoT etc based on selected paragraph styles at each level (manually selected). Allow multiple different formats at same level (eg. Heading1Bold, below) (f) Add a 'Numbering Format' setting to the paragraph style to set the format of the current level. Other formats inherited from parent (this makes the Appendix formats work). Example of desired outcome == Chapter 1. This is paragraph format 'Chapter'. 1.1 This is format 'Heading 1'. First digit is from 'Chapter' This is just some body text, I wont add more. 1.1.1 This is 'Heading 2'. Inherits from 'Heading 1' Figure 1-1. This is paragraph format 'Figure'. Inherits from 'Chapter' 1.2 Another H1 (1) This is format 'list'. (2) list items should auto number as nicely as paragraphs. 1.3 Another H1 (here just to show how figures work, see below). Figure 1-2. 'Figure' again. Note the counter is independant of 'Heading 1' (1) Another list. They should also reset to (1) (2) ...either inside any outline style, (3) ...or by some setting in the paragraph style (checkbox?). (4) ...so you would define a ListFirst and a List style. *1.4* The is 'Heading1Bold' style. See the TOC, below. Chapter 2. Nothing really to see here. Move on to appendix. Appendix A. This would just be a format inherited from Chapter, I expect. A.1 Heading 1. ie. Heading 1 inherits outer number from parent. A.2 ...I guess worst case we could define HeadingAppendix1 paragraph format. Figure A-1. Just like the figures above. Figure A-1(a). A format 'Sub-Figure' Table A-1. Should have mentioned this earlier Map A-1. ...there is a huge variety of things that should be Plate A-1 ...independantly numbered, with the possibility Plate A-1(a) ...of sub numbering. In the TOC we would have: TOC === Chapter 1. This is paragraph format 'Chapter'. 1.1 This is format 'Heading 1'. First digit is from 'Chapter' This is just some body text, I wont add more. 1.1.1 This is 'Heading 2'. Inherits from 'Heading 1' 1.2 Another H1 1.3 Another H1 (here just to show how figures work, see below). *1.4* The is 'Heading1Bold' style. See the TOC, below. Chapter 2. Nothing really to see here. Move on to appendix. Appendix A. This would just be a format inherited from Chapter, I expect. A.1 Heading 1. ie. Heading 1 inherits outer number from parent. A.2 ...I guess worst case we could define HeadingAppendix1 paragraph format. In the List-of-Figures we would have: Figure 1-1. This is paragraph format Figures. Inherits from 'Chapter' Figure 1-2. 'Figure' again. Note the counter is independant of 'Heading 1' Figure A-1. Just like the figures above. Figure A-1(a). A format 'Sub-Figure' And we
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User lendo changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'kamataki,mba,mh,mike_hall|'kamataki,lendo,mba,mh,mik |,od,pinkernell,vq'|e_hall,od,pinkernell,vq' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 12 09:44:10 + 2008 --- OD - warnerpj: I am not sure, if I understood your feature requests completely. Please have a look at specification, found at http://specs.openoffice.org/writer/numbering/OutlineLevel.odt. In my opinion with the new outline level attribute you have got the possibility to fulfill your requests. The new outline level attribute is planned to be integrated into OOo 3.1. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 1 11:06:40 + 2008 --- I made a comment on this back in 2005, and since then it seems that counters have been added, but I also wish to add that Outline Numbering is not the only problem. I have recently been battling with lists and sub-lists and see the same confusion and duplicated behaviours that we used to have with headings -- resulting in lists that disappear, reapper, get numbered badly etc. For the most part this is not OOs fault, it is the natural result of copying a UI from a really badly designed work processor (Word). Building on what is already in OO, it would be great to see the following: - extend 'Number Range' fields to have an optional parent 'Number Range'. Incrementing the parent would reset the child. - extend paragraph styles to include a 'Numbering Field' for numbering that behaves like 'Outline Numbering' does now (perhaps a checkbox for 'Include in Outline'). Allow me to specify the field to use (obviosly). Allow me to apply a numbering format to this number from within the paragrap style. For extra marks, disallow me from deleting this number without manually changing the paragraph style. With these two features, I will be able to: - create 'List Outer' and 'List Inner' (or List1, List2 etc) paragraph styles that automatically behave as most people would expect. - create a 'Heading2Important' style (based on 'Heading2') which behaves *excaly* like 'heading2', including sharing the same numbering levels etc, *and* which appears in the outline at the same level as 'heading2', but which has different paragraph formatting (eg. red, bold, boxed or whatever). - create a 'Chapter' format that actually works as one would expect 'above' heading1. No idea how much work this all involves, but it seems that with 3.0 we are close. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User od changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'kamataki,mba,mh,mike_hall|'kamataki,mba,mh,mike_hall |,pinkernell,vq' |,od,pinkernell,vq' Assigned to|od|zhaojianwei --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 1 06:34:55 + 2008 --- passing over responsibility to zhaojianwei - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 29 10:56:22 + 2008 --- OD, on March 26 : adjusting target because issue 70748 has changed its target. Sigh ... The original poster, again, almost 6 (!) years after his original submission... PS : Yes, I agree that this rant does not do anything useful. But : 1) letting off some steam seems appropriate about a promised enhancement that more and more appears to be vaporware ... 2) since submissions with descriptions trying to be somewhat useful accomplished nothing, I am sorely tempted to make a nuisance of myself, in the faint home that somebody will indeed do something if only just to get rid of me... - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 29 11:29:40 + 2008 --- I'm trying to get the 'top votes' lists fixed, so that issues like this appear on a summary page (see Issue 84530): I'm hoping that that will raise the visibility on the most voted on issues, and get them resolved (or get people with spare time more focused on the features/issues the community is hoping for). This issue, along with several others there, have been open for quite a while... it would be great to at least get a current status on them. Some have not been commented on for quite a while by a developer. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 29 12:17:40 + 2008 --- So let me let off some steam also. steam Such comments are indeed useless. Developers are working on this problem (see issue 70748 that was mentioned here) for some time but they didn't finish their work in time for the 3.0 version code freeze, so it is shifted to the next release. Before that we developed the necessary changes to the ODF format and discussed them at OASIS. This was quite time consuming. If you can do it faster, then do it. If not: please inform yourself and think a little bit more before you post something. /steam - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User od changed the following: What|Old value |New value Target milestone|OOo 3.0 |OOo 3.1 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 26 08:30:18 + 2008 --- adjusting target because issue 70748 has changed its target. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
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[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User mba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|mba |od --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 20 08:09:45 + 2007 --- I wonder what the last comments adds to the discussion. Please try to keep comments focused on the solution of the problem. Oliver, would you please comment how the current plans fit to the suggestions made in this issue. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User od changed the following: What|Old value |New value Target milestone|--- |OOo 3.0 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 20 09:37:40 + 2007 --- Please have a look at specification Introduction of an outline level attribute for paragraphs and paragraph styles, found at http://specs.openoffice.org/writer/numbering/OutlineLevel.odt, published one year ago. See also the corresponding discussion on mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] started at 2006-12-05 on this specification. With the introduction of a separate outline level attribute, you will have the possibility to build up the outline of your document independent from menu - Tools - Outline Numbering. For the use case given by charpen2 the solution can look like as follows: For the main text the usual way (menu - Tools - Outline Numbering) can be used. For the appendix, a new numbering style can be created. This new numbering style can be assigned to newly created paragraph styles for the different appendix levels. For each of the new appendix paragraph styles the corresponding outline level can be set. What I did not consider until now, is that after such an appendix paragraph style is applied to a paragraph the list level doesn't correspond to the outline level. The list level would be 1 and the outline level would be the one, which is set at the appendix paragraph style. But, I think, we can include the enhancement to the specification, that in such a case the list level value is adopted to the outline level value. The appendix paragraphs will automatically show up in the table of contents and they will also been shown in the navigator. I think this specification will solve the initial described insufficiency of the OOo Writer regarding outlines and outline numbering. It's planned to implement this specification for OOo 3.0. Thus, I've adjusted the target of this issue. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 20 17:04:40 + 2007 --- From the last comments : Please have a look at specification Introduction of an outline level attribute for paragraphs and paragraph styles, found at http://specs.openoffice.org/writer/numbering/OutlineLevel.odt, published one year ago. Did that. The proposed solution, which *seems* to fill my original needs, seems very close to my initial proposition, more than five years ago (verbatim : The idea is to replace the Outline==Styles mapping currently used by a Styles==Outline mapping.). I have not (yet) thought of all possible repercussions, but sounds OK to me. I regret that no mention of this proposal was ever been done on this issue report : this mention could have avoided this issue's followers my last rant ... mba : I wonder what the last comments adds to the discussion. Please try to keep comments focused on the solution of the problem.. Indeed, fanning the flames didn't *add* anything. But it helped retrieve the (missing) information that a solution had been designed and the (maybe more important) information that a timetable had been set up.. Please try to keep reporters informed of your work on their issues ... Their reporting has some value for a large-scale project such as OOo, and the lack of feedback discourages reporting... Back to the salt mines... Emmanuel Charpentier - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 20 23:04:09 + 2007 --- The reason for this misinformation is our former process to deal with requirements that IMHO is totally broken. Our QA engineers assigned all RFE issues to the user requirements. Our UX team was thought to wade through them and prioritize them but they never had enough people to actually do that. End of September I got a huge bunch of such issues that a brave UX team members has rescued from the big black oblivion called requirements. I'm still not done with reviewing them all but sooner or later I would have worked on this one. Fortunately we had started working on this anyway. So yes, Mike's comment urged me to have a look a little bit earlier than I would have done otherwise - but in general we have too much comments like this one in our issues and they make reading them harder as you have more work to find the relevant information. Having a look on the issue history I must admit that I can develop some sympathy for his wish to let off some steam - but I hope you can develop the same for my frustration about getting too much useless information. Anyway, I hope all will be pleases with getting the feature in 3.0. :-) - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User mike_hall changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'kamataki,mba,mh,pinkernel|'kamataki,mba,mh,mike_hall |l,vq' |,pinkernell,vq' --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 20 07:49:48 + 2007 --- Outline numbering is broken, witness the number of issues reported. Another reason why people are forced to use Word. Not acceptable IMHO. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 7 11:16:39 + 2007 --- Hi, this is the original poster, back again from his salt mines ! More than five years (exactly 1998 days...) after original submission, this misfeature (rather than bug) has not yet foud a solution, nonwhistanding the fact that the original submission contained the outline of an easy fix. Various workarounds have been proposed, non of them being simultaneously compatible with current use of outline hierarchy (i. e. table of contents generation) and end-user transparent. What should I do in order to see some *work* on this issue ? Create multiple personae and pseudo-voting en masse for this issue ? Mail-bomb developers ? Troll the mailing lists ? Abduct JS (and SMcN for good measure) and ransom them to this ? I even seriously considered to fix it myself, downloaded OOo source code and started to read. Ouch ! This project is three order of magnitude larger than anything I ever undertook. Furthermore, I could not delve deep enough in OpenOffice/ODF specifications to understand where I should aim. Finally, my development days are way behind me (and my dislike of C++ and Java tend to increase with time : Im definitely a C/Lisp/R man). Sorry to make this sound like a rant, but I'd never expect this apparently simple solution to an everyday problem would take more a few days to solve... Hoping to see a solution before 3000 days (or, for the least, before I die...). Emmanuel Charpentier - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 User mh changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'pinkernell,vq' |'mba,mh,pinkernell,vq' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 20:58:05 + 2007 --- *** Issue 76350 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 12 08:53:40 + 2007 --- A different way to solve the problem the original filer of this issue was/is facing could be page-style dependent outline numbering? See: Issue 48487 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 5038] Outline numbering lacks com monly-used abilities
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5038 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 11 05:28:04 -0800 2006 --- I'm dissapointed that this issue was known for more than 4 years and not given priority, even though this is the kind of problem everyone will encounter when writing a thesis or a document with appendices. AFAICS it's not a dupe of 3959, since that is about viewing rather than creating outline aspects of the document. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]