support for removable (RDX) disks

2015-02-16 Thread Gour
Hello, tried with forums, but got no reply, so I'm trying here now...

I'm considering to upgrade my current backup system consisting of Amanda
and LTO-2 drive/tapes.

My needs are to regularly backlup my desktop machine (2X1TB disks in
raid-1) and occasionally perform backup of my netbook (320GB disk
drive).

Besides that I have collection of 13 LTO-2 tapes mostly uncompressed
material (old hi8 movies and scanned negatives).

Considering that LTO tapes are quite expensive and I'd have to buy at
least LTO-4 if not wanting to skip over two-generations lap, I'm
considering to switch to RDX disks/cartridges and wonder if anyone can
share their experience of using Amanda with RDX disk-based backup?

By looking at docs, I've found the following: How To:Using removable
hard disk changers as Virtual tapes from the wiki (forum software does
not allow me using URLs ), but would like to hear if/how Amanda is
suitable for the task?


Sincerely,
Gour 


slow estimate on FreeBSD/ZFS

2014-02-08 Thread Gour
Hello,

I was able to somehow re-do my Linux backup and restore data on
Free/PC-BSD-10.0 and thanks to Heiko's encouragement I've stayed with
Amanda as my backup solution. :-)

Now, I've problem that estimation for my OS --  600GB alltogether,
split in 11 DLEs entries takes enormous long time in comparison with the
time it took on Linux/ext4.

Here is my df -h output:

[gour@atmarama] /var/db/amanda# df -h
FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail 
Capacity  Mounted on
tank/ROOT/default 356G6.6G349G 
2%/
devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   
100%/dev
procfs4.0K4.0K  0B   
100%/proc
linprocfs 4.0K4.0K  0B   
100%/compat/linux/proc
tank/tmp  349G1.3M349G 
0%/tmp
tank/usr/home 356G6.9G349G 
2%/usr/home
tank/usr/home/gour896G547G349G
61%/usr/home/gour
tank/usr/jails349G 32K349G 
0%/usr/jails
tank/usr/obj  349G 31K349G 
0%/usr/obj
tank/usr/pbi  351G2.1G349G 
1%/usr/pbi
tank/usr/pbi/.pbi-world-amd64 350G537M349G 
0%/usr/pbi/.pbi-world-amd64
tank/usr/ports349G270M349G 
0%/usr/ports
tank/usr/ports/distfiles  349G 36M349G 
0%/usr/ports/distfiles
tank/usr/src  350G1.2G349G 
0%/usr/src
tank/var/audit349G 33K349G 
0%/var/audit
tank/var/log  349G493K349G 
0%/var/log
tank/var/tmp  349G 32K349G 
0%/var/tmp
tank/usr/jails/.warden-template-10.0-RELEASE-amd64349G178M349G 
0%/usr/jails/.warden-template-10.0-RELEASE-amd64


So, few questions:

a) what is the reason that estimate on FreeBS/ZFS is so slow in
comparison with the Linux/ext4 (I had raid1/lvm2 setup)?

b) as a workaround I put:

estimate calcsize


in my dumptype and wonder if there is some serious trade-off in it?

c) amanda-hackers mailing list is subscribed to gmane similar to this
list, but the former allows direct posting via gmane, while this one
does not not? 

Can someone do something to allow posting via Gmane for amanda-users
or do you allow that I contact Gmane maintainers and try to edit the
current setting?


Sincerely,
Gour

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faultily, than another's duties perfectly. Destruction in the course 
of performing one's own duty is better than engaging in another's
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Re: re-assemble dump from tape drive

2012-11-06 Thread Gour
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:42:15 -0500
Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote:

 Assuming they are compressed with gzip you might try this
 untested piece.

They're not compressed...

   for p in part1 part2 part3
   do
   dd if=$p bs=32k skip1 | gzip -d
   done | gzip  allparts.gzt

I did concatenated two parts, but have no space on HD to amrestore 3rd
one and then concatenate it, so in the above shell snippet, I'm looking
if it would be possible to somehow use: dd if=/dev/tape to directly
fetch3rd part from the tape and appended to the allparts.tar on the
disk?


Sincerely,
Gour

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ever satisfied and independent, he performs no fruitive action, 
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Re: re-assemble dump from tape drive

2012-11-06 Thread Gour
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:42:15 -0500
Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote:

 Assuming they are compressed with gzip you might try this
 untested piece.

This worked:

amrestore -p /dev/nst0 host  allparts

executed on the last tape image.


Sincerely,
Gour

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himself the doer of activities that are in actuality carried out 
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Re: re-assemble dump from tape drive

2012-11-06 Thread Gour
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:05:23 -0500
Jean-Louis Martineau martin...@zmanda.com wrote:

 You should have use amfetchdump, it retrieve all parts and
 concatenate them.

Afaik, amfetchdump needs 'state' in order to work and my amadmin does
not produce sensible results...otherwise I'd just use amrecover.


Sincerely,
Gour


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Re: backing up ZFS

2012-10-27 Thread Gour
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:40:20 -0400
Brian Cuttler br...@wadsworth.org wrote:

 That is odd, and not reflective out output for ZFS file systems
 on a Solaris box.

Hmm..

 Clearly the script will not work for you as intended.

You mean dump or even gnutar?

 I have no clue what tank0/ROOT/default contains, suspect
 /root/default is the mount point, but you'd know and I
 can only guess. Suspect tank0/ROOT is in fact /root.

Here I'll include df-h output as well:

[gour@atmarama gour] df
-h
~ Filesystem   SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted
on tank0/ROOT/default   368G5.5G363G 1%/
devfs1.0k1.0k  0B   100%/dev
procfs   4.0k4.0k  0B   100%/proc
linprocfs4.0k4.0k  0B
100%/compat/linux/proc tank0/root   363G 40M
363G 0%/root tank0/tmp363G126k
363G 0%/tmp tank0/usr/home   363G 73k
363G 0%/usr/home tank0/usr/home/gour  893G529G
363G59%/usr/home/gour tank0/usr/jails  363G
83M363G 0%/usr/jails tank0/usr/obj363G
31k363G 0%/usr/obj tank0/usr/pbi374G
11G363G 3%/usr/pbi tank0/usr/ports  363G
675M363G 0%/usr/ports tank0/usr/ports/distfiles363G
106M363G 0%/usr/ports/distfiles
tank0/usr/src363G435M363G 0%/usr/src
tank0/var/audit  363G 31k363G 0%/var/audit
tank0/var/log363G626k363G 0%/var/log
tank0/var/tmp363G114k363G 0%/var/tmp


and zfs list (again):

[gour@atmarama gour] zfs list   
 ~
NAMEUSED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
tank0   550G   363G31K  legacy
tank0/ROOT 5.52G   363G31K  legacy
tank0/ROOT/default 5.52G   363G  5.52G  /mnt
tank0/root 40.1M   363G  40.1M  /root
tank0/swap 2.06G   365G  37.8M  -
tank0/tmp   127K   363G   127K  /tmp
tank0/usr   543G   363G31K  /mnt/usr
tank0/usr/home  530G   363G  73.5K  /usr/home
tank0/usr/home/gour 530G   363G   530G  /usr/home/gour
tank0/usr/jails83.8M   363G  83.8M  /usr/jails
tank0/usr/obj31K   363G31K  /usr/obj
tank0/usr/pbi  11.6G   363G  11.6G  /usr/pbi
tank0/usr/ports 782M   363G   676M  /usr/ports
tank0/usr/ports/distfiles   106M   363G   106M  /usr/ports/distfiles
tank0/usr/src   435M   363G   435M  /usr/src
tank0/var   802K   363G31K  /mnt/var
tank0/var/audit  31K   363G31K  /var/audit
tank0/var/log   626K   363G   626K  /var/log
tank0/var/tmp   114K   363G   114K  /var/tmp


Does it help?

 I can not be 100% certain about linux, but as far as Solaris
 goes (I believe linux to be the same) dump will only dump ext
 type, ufs, xfs etc type file systems, that tar is always used
 with ZFS file systems.

I'm on Free(PC)BSD.


Sincerely,
Gour

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backing up ZFS

2012-10-26 Thread Gour

Hello!

While being on Linux I was using lvm2 volumes in raid-1 with ext4
filesystems and defining DLEs was quite straightforward.

Recently moved to Free(PC)BSD and everything is handled by ZFS, so I
wonder how to properly define my DLEs to regularly backup my desktop
machine to LTO-2 tapes?

Here is zfslist output:

[gour@atmarama gour] zfs list   
 ~
NAMEUSED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
tank0   550G   363G31K  legacy
tank0/ROOT 5.51G   363G31K  legacy
tank0/ROOT/default 5.51G   363G  5.51G  /mnt
tank0/root 40.1M   363G  40.1M  /root
tank0/swap 2.06G   365G  37.8M  -
tank0/tmp   126K   363G   126K  /tmp
tank0/usr   543G   363G31K  /mnt/usr
tank0/usr/home  530G   363G  73.5K  /usr/home
tank0/usr/home/gour 530G   363G   530G  /usr/home/gour
tank0/usr/jails83.8M   363G  83.8M  /usr/jails
tank0/usr/obj31K   363G31K  /usr/obj
tank0/usr/pbi  11.6G   363G  11.6G  /usr/pbi
tank0/usr/ports 782M   363G   676M  /usr/ports
tank0/usr/ports/distfiles   106M   363G   106M  /usr/ports/distfiles
tank0/usr/src   435M   363G   435M  /usr/src
tank0/var   671K   363G31K  /mnt/var
tank0/var/audit  31K   363G31K  /var/audit
tank0/var/log   564K   363G   564K  /var/log
tank0/var/tmp  44.5K   363G  44.5K  /var/tmp

Any hint?

I'm a bit confused by this article: http://www.tc.mtu.edu/~jfb/amanda-zfs.php

saying:

To add ZFS filesystem entries to your AMANDA disklist, use the absolute
mount point. zfs list, used by the dump wrapper, indicates a mount
point of legacy in the case of root-on-ZFS, but AMANDA appears to
look for /dev/legacy if legacy is used in disklist, which causes a
host-check error and prevents the filesystem from being backed up, so
be sure to use / for the filesystem/device. The wrapper script will
take care of the conversion of / to legacy.

Is it relevant only when using dump?

I plan to use gnutar and have root-on-ZFS...


Sincerely,
Gour

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for the self-controlled; and the time of awakening for 
all beings is night for the introspective sage.

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status of amanda 4.0

2012-10-26 Thread Gour
Hello,

now when we're returning back to Amanda, I wonder if there is some
roadmap/features_list for Amanda 4.0?

What is the status of it?

I saw some messages about alpha release last year, but not much
afterwards...


Sincerely,
Gour

p.s. Excuse me for reposting, but I've discovered that my previous posts
are not visible at http://archives.zmanda.com/amanda-archives/viewforum.php?f=1
due to being pgp-signed. :-(

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and a little advancement on this path can protect 
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backing up ZFS

2012-10-25 Thread Gour
Hello!

While being on Linux I was using lvm2 volumes in raid-1 with ext4
filesystems and defining DLEs was quite straightforward.

Recently moved to Free(PC)BSD and everything is handled by ZFS, so I
wonder how to properly define my DLEs to regularly backup my desktop
machine to LTO-2 tapes?

Here is zfslist output:

[gour@atmarama gour] zfs list   
 ~
NAMEUSED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
tank0   550G   363G31K  legacy
tank0/ROOT 5.51G   363G31K  legacy
tank0/ROOT/default 5.51G   363G  5.51G  /mnt
tank0/root 40.1M   363G  40.1M  /root
tank0/swap 2.06G   365G  37.8M  -
tank0/tmp   126K   363G   126K  /tmp
tank0/usr   543G   363G31K  /mnt/usr
tank0/usr/home  530G   363G  73.5K  /usr/home
tank0/usr/home/gour 530G   363G   530G  /usr/home/gour
tank0/usr/jails83.8M   363G  83.8M  /usr/jails
tank0/usr/obj31K   363G31K  /usr/obj
tank0/usr/pbi  11.6G   363G  11.6G  /usr/pbi
tank0/usr/ports 782M   363G   676M  /usr/ports
tank0/usr/ports/distfiles   106M   363G   106M  /usr/ports/distfiles
tank0/usr/src   435M   363G   435M  /usr/src
tank0/var   671K   363G31K  /mnt/var
tank0/var/audit  31K   363G31K  /var/audit
tank0/var/log   564K   363G   564K  /var/log
tank0/var/tmp  44.5K   363G  44.5K  /var/tmp

Any hint?

I'm a bit confused by this article: http://www.tc.mtu.edu/~jfb/amanda-zfs.php

saying:

To add ZFS filesystem entries to your AMANDA disklist, use the absolute
mount point. zfs list, used by the dump wrapper, indicates a mount
point of legacy in the case of root-on-ZFS, but AMANDA appears to
look for /dev/legacy if legacy is used in disklist, which causes a
host-check error and prevents the filesystem from being backed up, so
be sure to use / for the filesystem/device. The wrapper script will
take care of the conversion of / to legacy.

Is it relevant only when using dump?

I plan to use gnutar and have root-on-ZFS...


Sincerely,
Gour


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desires — that enter like rivers into the ocean, which is 
ever being filled but is always still — can alone achieve 
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Re: Linux --- FreeBSD migration problem

2012-10-06 Thread Gour
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 07:24:05 -0400
Jean-Louis Martineau martin...@zmanda.com wrote:

Here I'm again...

  Linux: 3.2.2
  FreeBSD: 3.2.1

 A downgrade, some log line format changed, you must upgrade to 3.2.2.

More than one year ago I moved from Linux to Free/PC-BSD-9.0 (it was
not released yet), but after some time returned back to Linux and to
Bacula since I could not any longer compile Amanda - see my comments:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29616

Now I did try 9.1RC1 and it is huge improvement for the desktop and I'm
going to move very soon to PC-BSD and back to Amanda.

However, this time, on Linux my working version is 3.3.1, while I see
that FreeBSD ports holds amanda-3.3.2 and wonder if I can expect some
issues in migration?

Am I find if I simply copy my Linux /var/amanda directories considering
the output below?

[amanda@atmarama ~]$ amgetconf hi8 logdir
/var/amanda/state/log/hi8

I'm attaching output of /var/amanda/ tree to this message.

Any hint for smooth migration?

Sincerely,
Gour


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Re: one DLE per single tape?

2012-10-06 Thread Gour
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:20:11 -0400
Jean-Louis Martineau martin...@zmanda.com wrote:

 On 08/29/2011 10:47 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote:
  If you want each DLE on its own tape, consider running each DLE in
  a separate amdump run. $ amdump config host dle 
 
 3.3.1 (not yet released) have a new 'max-dle-by-volume' setting. You
 can set it to 1.

So, besides moving (again) to Free/PC-BSD, I want to move back from
Bacula to Amanda...

The main reason for using Bacula (again) was problem building Amanda on
my machine:

In file included from /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib.h:72:0,
from amanda.h:39,
from amxml.c:33:
/usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gqueue.h:76:10: note: previous declaration
of 'g_queue_free_full' was here

but I'm sure Amanda is better supported on Free/PC-BSD than on
Archlinux.

Another reason for re-considering Bacula was (possibly) quicker restore
times due to deploying PostgreSQL database and having index available.
(I'm familiar with cli and lack of GUI is not the reason, I use
bconsole.)

However, setup of Bacula is more complicated, requires more admin work
(which I'd like to avoid) and not much gain for it (only quicker
restore).

So, my multimedia stuff (archived videos and scanned 35mm slides) are
stored on 'amanda' tapes, but now I'd like to deploy it for my regular
desktop backup.

Am I correct if I consider using 'one DLE per single tape' strategy is
better than spanning backup on several tapes?

My backup device is single LTO-2 drives and the current Archlinux OS
takes ~12G for / (linux OS) and ~560G for /home.

I know that with FreeBSD it will be different (we'll use ZFS with some
more slices for OS), but the main portion of backup is /home.

Now, I wonder if you can give me some advice how to divide my /home
(there is only one account under /home/gour) into DLEs to fit on a
single tape or it is better to use tape spanning?

I mean, how one is one supposed to handle backup when DLE is greater
than tape capacity in general?

Of course, I can divide /home/gour into several DLEs/tape based on
*current* disk usage, but it may change in the future?

How to handle it?


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: amrecover - can't talk to tape server: service amidxtaped:

2011-09-05 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:26:21 -0400
Jean-Louis Martineau martin...@zmanda.com wrote:

 perl 5.14 is more restrictive in the syntax.
 
 I committed the attached patch to the 3.2 branch.

After returning back to (Arch)Linux from (Free)BSD I had the same issue
which was resolved by upgrading to the trunk..

Thank you for support.


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: one DLE per single tape?

2011-08-30 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:02:12 -0400
Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote:

 Nothing strange there.  It attempted to put it a DLE, or depending on
 your configuation, a chunk of the DLE on to a tape but it didn't
 fit.  Thus it retried that DLE or chunk on the next tape and
 succeeded.

Hmm, that's a bit strange because Eacho DLE was selected in a way to
fit on the tape.

  STATISTICS:
Total   Full  Incr.   Level:#
          
  Estimate Time (hrs:min) 0:00
  Run Time (hrs:min) 14:23
  Dump Time (hrs:min)13:11  13:11   0:00
  Output Size (meg)   736042.0   736042.00.0
  Original Size (meg) 647112.1   647112.10.0
  Avg Compressed Size (%)113.7  113.7--
 
 Looks like you should not be trying to compress these data.

Good catch.

Here is my config:

define dumptype simple-gnutar-local {
auth local
compress none
program GNUTAR
record no
}


which means that it could be only due to hardware compression or not?


 
  DLEs Dumped4  4  0
  Avg Dump Rate (k/s)  15874.315874.3--
  
  Tape Time (hrs:min)14:22  14:22   0:00
  Tape Size (meg) 736042.0   736042.00.0
  Tape Used (%)  378.3  378.30.0
  DLEs Taped 7  7  0
  Parts Taped7  7  0
 
 You are not splitting your DLE into chunks (parts == DLEs).

This is also strange...I have 4 tapes only and 4 DLEs defined...From
where it arrives to 7?


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: one DLE per single tape?

2011-08-29 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:47:08 -0400
Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote:

 If you want each DLE on its own tape, consider running each
 DLE in a separate amdump run.

   $ amdump config host dle

Thank you. I somehow 'missed' that feature. :-(

Should I say that only today I discovered there is 'amstatus'. :-(

So, each day learning something new...

I did run amdump according to the config which I presented and it seems
that each DLE is on its own tape.

For the testing purposes I have extracted one small directory and now
running amcheckdump to try to verify everything is OK 'cause I see some
strange things in my amreport:


[amanda@atmarama slidesng] amreport slidesng
Hostname: atmarama.noip.me
Org : Scanned Slides NG
Config  : slidesng
Date: August 28, 2011

These dumps were to tapes slides-1, slides-2, slides-3, slides-4.
The next 4 tapes Amanda expects to use are: slides-1, slides-2,
slides-3, slides-4. FAILURE DUMP SUMMARY:
  atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape1 lev 0  FAILED [data write: Broken pipe]
  atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape1 lev 0  partial taper: No space left on
device atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape1 lev 0  was successfully retried
  atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape2 lev 0  FAILED [data write: Broken pipe]
  atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape2 lev 0  partial taper: No space left on
device atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape2 lev 0  was successfully retried
  atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape4 lev 0  FAILED [data write: Broken pipe]
  atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape4 lev 0  partial taper: No space left on
device atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape4 lev 0  was successfully retried



STATISTICS:
  Total   Full  Incr.   Level:#
        
Estimate Time (hrs:min) 0:00
Run Time (hrs:min) 14:23
Dump Time (hrs:min)13:11  13:11   0:00
Output Size (meg)   736042.0   736042.00.0
Original Size (meg) 647112.1   647112.10.0
Avg Compressed Size (%)113.7  113.7--
DLEs Dumped4  4  0
Avg Dump Rate (k/s)  15874.315874.3--

Tape Time (hrs:min)14:22  14:22   0:00
Tape Size (meg) 736042.0   736042.00.0
Tape Used (%)  378.3  378.30.0
DLEs Taped 7  7  0
Parts Taped7  7  0
Avg Tp Write Rate (k/s)  14570.314570.3--

USAGE BY TAPE:
  Label   Time Size  %  DLEs Parts
  slides-12:27   199236614k  100.0 2 2
  slides-22:27   199236118k  100.0 2 2
  slides-32:27   199235822k  100.0 2 2
  slides-41:55   155998480k   78.3 1 1

FAILED DUMP DETAILS:
  /-- atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape1 lev 0 FAILED [data write: Broken
pipe] sendbackup: start [atmarama.noip.me:/slides/tape1 level 0]
  sendbackup: info BACKUP=/usr/local/bin/gtar
  sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/usr/local/bin/gtar -xpGf - ...
  sendbackup: info end
  \
  /-- atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape2 lev 0 FAILED [data write: Broken
pipe] sendbackup: start [atmarama.noip.me:/slides/tape2 level 0]
  sendbackup: info BACKUP=/usr/local/bin/gtar
  sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/usr/local/bin/gtar -xpGf - ...
  sendbackup: info end
  \
  /-- atmarama.noip.me /slides/tape4 lev 0 FAILED [data write: Broken
pipe] sendbackup: start [atmarama.noip.me:/slides/tape4 level 0]
  sendbackup: info BACKUP=/usr/local/bin/gtar
  sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/usr/local/bin/gtar -xpGf - ...
  sendbackup: info end
  \

NOTES:
  planner: Adding new disk atmarama.noip.me:/slides/tape1.
  planner: Adding new disk atmarama.noip.me:/slides/tape2.
  planner: Adding new disk atmarama.noip.me:/slides/tape3.
  planner: Adding new disk atmarama.noip.me:/slides/tape4.
  taper: tape slides-1 kb 199236614 fm 2 [OK]
  taper: tape slides-2 kb 199236118 fm 2 [OK]
  taper: tape slides-3 kb 199235822 fm 2 [OK]
  taper: tape slides-4 kb 155998480 fm 1 [OK]


DUMP SUMMARY:
  DUMPER STATS
TAPER STATS HOSTNAME DISKL   ORIG-kBOUT-kB  COMP%
MMM:SSKB/s MMM:SSKB/s --
-- -- atmarama.noi
-ides/tape1 0 157545230 157545230 --  117:58 22259.1 118:00 22252.2
atmarama.noi -ides/tape2 0 155998480 155998480 --  116:35 22302.9
116:36 22298.2 atmarama.noi -ides/tape3 0 183946790 183946790 --
135:25 22640.8 135:27 22634.0 atmarama.noi -ides/tape4 0 165152310
165152310 --  421:23  6532.2 421:25  6531.6

(brought to you by Amanda version 3.2.2)


What do you think about it?


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ERROR: /usr/bin/gzip exited with status 1

2011-04-17 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
Hello,

during my migration from Linux to FreeBSD I lost Amanda's logs and
cannot use amrecover. In the attempt to re-do backup I wanted to
amrestore content from the tapes, but one set of tapes was dumped with
software compression enabled and now amrestore reports:

amrestore on fbsd on compressed .gz tape (on linux) failed with:
ERROR: /usr/bin/gzip exited with status 1. 

Any hint how to overcome it?

(It's multi-tapes backup and I need to amrestore first and then to
concatenate all the parts.)

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Re: ERROR: /usr/bin/gzip exited with status 1

2011-04-17 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:54:28 -0400
Jean-Louis Martineau martin...@zmanda.com wrote:

 amrestore -r

Thank you.

Then it means that before concatenate-ing all the parts together, we
need to skip first 32k block?


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Re: Linux --- FreeBSD migration problem

2011-04-05 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:01:13 -0400
Jean-Louis Martineau martin...@zmanda.com wrote:

 logdir is configurable in amanda.conf

OK.

 Run 'amgetconf CONF logdir' to find where amanda expect them.

OK. They're (now) in the correct place.

 Do the index are there? They should be in 'amgetconf CONF indexdir'

Yes.

 Do the tapelist file list all label with the correct date?

Here is the content of one such file:

20110317120137 d-movies-hi8 reuse
20110317120137 c-movies-hi8 reuse
20110317120137 b-movies-hi8 reuse
20110317120137 a-movies-hi8 reuse

 Do 'amadmin CONF find' list the dump?

No.

[amanda@atmarama amanda] amadmin movies-hi8 find
Warning: no log files found for tape d-movies-hi8 written 2011-03-17
12:01:37
Warning: no log files found for tape c-movies-hi8 written 2011-03-17
12:01:37
Warning: no log files found for tape b-movies-hi8 written 2011-03-17
12:01:37
Warning: no log files found for tape a-movies-hi8 written 2011-03-17
12:01:37

No dump to list


Does it mean I'd have to re-backup (iow, restore and backup again)?

 What's in the amindexd debug file?

I don't have those and believe those were in /tmp/amanda which I didn't
backup. Are they required for amrecover to work properly?


Otoh, for another (most recent) config (which backed up LInux) I get:


[amanda@atmarama amanda] amadmin backup find
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-1
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
localhost
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
localhost
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
localhost
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
localhost
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
backup-2
Bstrange log line in /usr/local/var/amanda/state/log/log.20110331101407.0 
localhost

No dump to list


What is this?


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Re: Linux --- FreeBSD migration problem

2011-04-05 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 06:43:58 -0400
Jean-Louis Martineau martin...@zmanda.com wrote:

 What was the amanda release on the linux box, What is the release on
 the FreeBSD box?

Linux: 3.2.2
FreeBSD: 3.2.1


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Re: Linux --- FreeBSD migration problem

2011-04-05 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 07:24:05 -0400
Jean-Louis Martineau martin...@zmanda.com wrote:

 A downgrade, some log line format changed, you must upgrade to 3.2.2.

It helped :-) although it's strange that minor release breaks
compatibility.

However, it also solves minor problem with my Linux backup which I've
on external USB disk.

Can I assume that those configs which cannot be found with:

amadmin CONF find

like:

Warning: no log files found for tape a-slides written 2011-03-10 06:32:21

have to be re-done?

I've followed wiki and put:

record no

for those configs since I need to backup those slides/movies for
archive and just from time to time (when working on some material)
restore some parts of it.

Do you still recommend to use 'record=no' next time when I'll have to
perform backup again?



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Re: filemark HP LTO-2 drive

2011-03-04 Thread Gour
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:12:25 -0500
Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote:

 I meant that with sarcasm, hope it came through.

;)

 I'd wager you wouldn't be able to differentiate using an LTO-2
 tapetype definition using 0KB vs 207KB filemarks.

Hmm...

 Unless things have changed, amanda uses the filemark in calculations
 like:

[...]

 In my limited experience with various tape formats and tapetype,
 I found my LTO-1 drive to give virtually identical results each
 run across different individual tapes and 2 brands of tape.  The
 filemark was always 0.  In contrast, my tapetype results for DAT
 (DAT-2 and DAT-3) were a bit inconsistant and showed definite
 differences between brands.

Interesting. 
 
 If my amtapetype results showed a significant filemark while
 others generally report zero filemark for LTO formats, I'd ponder,
 but wouldn't worry too much, why I got my results.  

Well, that's why I'm asking...all the entries for LTO-2 drive in wiki
have filemark 0k.


 I'd certainly rerun amtapetype.  It not that big a hassle.  You
 could have done that before asking and had your result before any
 replies to your query.

That's what I'm doing now, but it takes some time...

 I'd also look at the reported throughput.  Amanda makes no use of
 the speed results; those are for your info only.

OK.

 I'd compare my observed results with other reports and with the
 drive manu- facturer's specified speed.  If your system is unable to
 feed your drive data at a rate sufficient to keep it streaming, I'm
 pretty sure that apparent capacity and filemark can be affected.

The speed  which I got (22522 kps) is in the boundary of other's
results) in the wiki as well ac close to HP's spec of 24Mps.

Now I'm doing test with compression disabled.

Here is the result:

Checking for FSF_AFTER_FILEMARK requirement
Applying heuristic check for compression.
Wrote random (uncompressible) data at 21864712.2580645 bytes/sec
Wrote fixed (compressible) data at 21864712.2580645 bytes/sec
Compression: disabled
Writing one file to fill the volume.
Wrote 203994431488 bytes at 22497 kb/sec
Got LEOM indication, so drive and kernel together support LEOM
Writing smaller files (2039939072 bytes) to determine filemark.
define tapetype unknown-tapetype {  
comment Created by amtapetype; compression disabled
length 199213312 kbytes
filemark 208 kbytes
speed 22497 kps
blocksize 32 kbytes
}
# for this drive and kernel, LEOM is supported; add
#   device-property LEOM TRUE
# for this device.

which shows that the drive is behaving even (slightly) better with
compression enabled. :-)


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filemark HP LTO-2 drive

2011-03-03 Thread Gour
Hello,

after performing testing of my HP Ultrium 448 drive with:

amtapetype -f /dev/nst0

I got the following result:

Checking for FSF_AFTER_FILEMARK requirement
Applying heuristic check for compression.
Wrote random (uncompressible) data at 21864712.2580645 bytes/sec
Wrote fixed (compressible) data at 50207857.778 bytes/sec
Compression: enabled
Writing one file to fill the volume.
Wrote 203994431488 bytes at 22522 kb/sec
Got LEOM indication, so drive and kernel together support LEOM
Writing smaller files (2039939072 bytes) to determine filemark.
define tapetype unknown-tapetype {  
comment Created by amtapetype; compression enabled
length 199213312 kbytes
filemark 207 kbytes
speed 22522 kps
blocksize 32 kbytes
}
# for this drive and kernel, LEOM is supported; add
#   device-property LEOM TRUE
# for this device.


However, when comparing the above result with the entries at
http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Tapetype_definitions#Hewlett-Packard_Ultrium_448
I see that all of 'em have: filemark 0 kybtes, while I got filemark
207 kbytes

What do you think, iow. shall I use the one arrived after amtapetype
testing?


Sincerely,
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Bacula -- Amanda migration

2011-03-03 Thread Gour
Hello!

I've 8 LTO-2 tapes filled with raw video (DV) and 4 with raw
high-resolution (35mm) scans stored in Bacula  catalog in Postgres
database.

Now, I'd like to put this data (~1.7TB of video  700GBs of scans) on
the tape backed up by Amanda.

I'd also like to do this migration while my desktop machine is still
running Linux (with ext4 fs) 'cause I plan to put Free(PC)BSD on my
desktop with ZFS filesystem soon, in the attempt to avoid migrating
Postgres database from one OS to the other.

As far as I can see, there is no way to avoid restoring all this data
and then do backup with Amanda. The problem is that I'm a bit tight on
the HD - my desktop has 2x1TBs hard disks running in raid1 mirror, and
two smaller external USB disks (320GB + 750GB), so the only solution
(without buying more hardware) seems to be to remove one disk from
raid1 array and used it along with the other disks to restore
everything on those and then backup?

Let me add that video files (8 tapes) are stored in separate catalog
then the slides, iow. they use different pools of tapes.

Any idea how to do this Bacula -- Amanda migration in a most simple
way?

Is there any concern when migrating Amanda from Linux to FreeBSD?

Can you recommend some appropriate strategy to do this long-term
archiving of video  slides (besides
http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/FAQ:How_can_I_configure_Amanda_for_long-term_archiving%3F)

in order to have it easy way when doing recovery/restore without
having all the eggs in one basket?


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Re: filemark HP LTO-2 drive

2011-03-03 Thread Gour
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 10:48:29 -0500
Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote:

 207KB for each filemark?
 
 Wow, what a huge waste!!

Indeed.

 
 But consider the difference from a 0KB filemark to Amanda's
 calculations.  If it were to write 1000 separate tape files,
 wasting 207MB in filemarks, its calculations of how much
 dump data it could fit on the tape would differ by 0.1%.

That's right...Still, I wonder whether to try using 0kb for filemark,
run the test again or something else?


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Re: Bacula -- Amanda migration

2011-03-03 Thread Gour
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:00:01 -0500
Chris Hoogendyk hoogen...@bio.umass.edu wrote:

 I saw almost exactly the same question on the Bacula list recently,
 with respect to migrating from netbackup to Bacula. The short answer
 was that there is no way except recovering and then backing up with
 the new backup program.

:-(

 If you had two tape drives and a decent sized holding disk, and you
 wanted to get really creative, you could write a module that recovers
 from Bacula tapes and streams directly to the Amanda backup. ;-)
 But, that's *way* over the top. Much easier to just recover and back
 up again.

Neither I've two tape drives, not enough creativity to delve into such
project. :-)

 I've found that using amadmin to force full and then marking the
 tapes as no-reuse works for archive and ends up keeping the same
 configuration for DLEs, etc. 

Good.

 If you want more than one copy, you can always run that again, or
 just copy the tape if you have two drives.

Bacula has Copy Job. What about Amanda's amvault? Can it serve the
same purpose?


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Re: Bacula -- Amanda migration

2011-03-03 Thread Gour
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:48:22 -0700
John Hein jh...@symmetricom.com wrote:

 Amanda should not have problems.  If you hit a snag, ask the list.

Cool.

 You may hit issues like the mt(1) syntax is different (use mt for
 things like setting blocksize and disabling hardware compression
 before amanda starts up).

That's OK and we believe we will be able to find out our way...


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Amanda vs Bacula

2011-03-01 Thread Gour
Hello,

I'm an Archlinux user planning to migrate to Free/PCBSD soon. At the
moment I use Bacula to backup my desktop machine and another (old)
laptop.

Moreover, I've collection of archived (scanned) slides and video files
which are archived on (atm) 12 LTO-2 tapes with more tapes to be
filled in the future.

So, considering the above backup hardware (HP Ultrium 448 tape drive)
and my backup needs, I wonder whether Amanda might be better option
for me?

When I say 'better' I think about the following:

a) ease of setup and admin work required to maintain the setup

I did configure Bacula, created 3 different Catalogs (video, slides,
desktop). but I lost in the past my configuration and had to scan all
the tapes to restore catalog files which are atm stored in Postgresql
database which is another extra requirement to admin. (Let me say that
I keep Postgresql just for the Bacula needs. 

How does Amanda compare here?

b) tools for working with the application

Bacula has Bat GUI, but I use bconsole and can find my way there, but
wonder how does Amanda compare here?

c) bare-metal recovery

So far, I never did it with Bacula, but I confess that I'm not
probably ready either.

Is bare-metal recovery easy/difficult with Amanda?


d) spanning volumes on more than one tape and appending to the tape

I see two unusual (from the Bacula user's perspective) FAQ entries:

  1) How do I back up a partition that won't fit on a tape?
 
  2) Why does Amanda not append to a tape?

According to the FAQ, answer for 1) seems to be that it's possible
since 2.5.0, and it looks that 3.2.x is bringing support to even
better level. Correct?

As far as issue 2) is concerned, I'm accustomed in Bacula to simply
run a job, selecting correct Pool of tapes and Bacula appends new
backup to the appropriate tape without much thinking. It looks that
Amanda is using different strategy, and the following confuses me
(from
http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/FAQ:Why_does_Amanda_not_append_to_a_tape%3F):
...Amanda was designed to never overwrite a non-Amanda tape, nor an
Amanda tape from a different configuration, nor an Amanda tape from
the current configuration that is still active, i.e. has backups on
the tape more recent than the dumpcycle length.

Bacula also has 'file retention' parameter, but here I'm confused with
interchange of the words 'append' (as used in the FAQ entry) and
'overwrite' as used in explanation?

So I'd appreciate if someone can throw some more light on it helping
with the final decision.


Anything else which I did not include which might be worth of
comparing?


Sincerely,
Gour


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Re: Amanda vs Bacula

2011-03-01 Thread Gour
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:27:39 -0700
Charles Curley charlescur...@charlescurley.com wrote:

 It might; see below.

Let's see..

 It is my experience that once you get the configuration files set
 up, everything is very stable.

That's good.

 Amanda does not address bare metal recovery. I, however, do.
 http://www.charlescurley.com/Linux-Complete-Backup-and-Recovery-HOWTO.html.

Nice article.

 The quantum unit of backup in Amanda is the Disk List entry (DLE). A
 DLE may cover more than one partition or a portion of a partition. You
 can use exclusions to further refine and nest DLEs.

That's clear.

 One thing that concerns me with appending is that if the tape or the
 tape drive goes bad during the append operation, you run the risk of
 clobbering no only the appended material but also the previous
 material. Having seen this happen, I prefer to avoid it. Tape space is
 much cheaper than your data.

I see...

 Also, with virtual tapes (vtapes in Amandaese), the question is
 meaningless. It is the total space available in the partition that is
 critical, not the available space on each vtape.

So, I can create as many vtapes as I like and then dump those to the
tape and they can span many tapes if required?

 One of these days your tape drive is going to wear out. You may
 find it expedient to replace it with disk drives loaded with
 vtapes. 

Well, my 'multimedia' archive is meant to be archived and here I
assume tapes, not on the movable hard disks.

 For me, the lack of vtapes in Bacula would be a show stopper.

Thank you for your input...I'm going to take a closer look at vtapes
in wiki.


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Re: Amanda vs Bacula

2011-03-01 Thread Gour
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:25:22 -0500
Chris Hoogendyk hoogen...@bio.umass.edu wrote:

 There are a lot of issues and questions here, and some of them can be
 very personal. For, example, I'm totally happy with a simple command
 line interface, whereas some people won't even consider a piece of
 software unless it has some sort of graphical interface, even if it
 is just a web interface.

I like cli and do not have problem with it. ;)

 Anyway, that's just by way of illustration.

When you mentioned Java, I had enough. :-)

 If you want a general sense of why I like Amanda, see 
 http://blogs.umass.edu/choogend/2007/09/27/ten-things-i-like-about-amanda/ .
 It's slightly dated, but still pertinent, in spite of both Amanda and
 Bacula having seen a huge amount of development work in the last few
 years.

Very nice article. I really enjoyed it. ;)

 That was a significant part of my choosing Amanda. It is pretty much
 straight to the point. You don't have to install and configure an SQL
 database (and manage it's tuning and performance); you don't have to
 configure multiple server daemons (storage, database, backup); it is
 run from the OS (cron), so you don't have to worry about whether it
 is still running or not (having to put in a nagios module to watch
 it); it uses native tools on the OS, so you don't have to worry about
 being able to read the tapes if your backup server goes belly up; and
 I believe the configuration of Amanda is much easier, as long as you
 get the point of the planning strategy that Amanda uses --

Huh...this is very true and compelling...

 If you go with the enterprise edition from Zmanda, you can get a
 graphical console that is very advanced.

I'll stay with community version, but don't have need for gui.

 Bare metal is bare metal. I don't think there is much difference in
 concept getting your system back up. The huge difference is that
 Amanda tapes can be read with native OS tools. So, you don't have to
 get Amanda installed and reconfigured in order to access your tapes.

This is huge advantage.

 append is the idea that one backup run can be added to the end of a
 tape used by the previous backup run, continuing until the tape is
 full. Some (including me) are philosophically against that. It poses
 risks of losing all those backups if one fails in writing to the
 tape, and it eliminates the redundancy of your backups by putting all
 (or many of) your eggs in one basket. I prefer more tapes and don't
 mind if they happen to be largely empty. That just means I still have
 growth for the future, which is always an issue.

Heh...more eggs in the basket is good explanation.

 overwrite is when a tape comes around for being re-used. 

Well, I understand about 'append'  'overwrite', but wonder why the
FAQ entry is named Why does Amanda not *append* to a tape? while the
answer speaks about: ...Amanda was designed to never *overwrite* a
non-Amanda tape.. It looks that FAQ entry mixes the concepts?

 So, the re-use of tapes by Amanda is somewhat simpler. 

Right. No need to extra layer of Pools as in Bacula...We like
simiplicity.

 It is controlled by the tape cycle. If you want to use a tape as an archive
 (set aside and not re-used), you can use amadmin to mark that tape as
 no-reuse.

This is nice  simple. We might use it for our 'multimedia
archive'. ;)

 I hope that helps.

Yeah...I'm thankful to all those who responded and I believe I'm going
to install Amanda. :-)

Question: considering that I may start using Amanda while still being
on x86_64 Linux, what would be procedure to migrate my setup on x86_64
Free(PC)BSD?


And there is one gotcha with Amanda: posting from Gmane does not
work...if anyone has idea how to fix it it, it would be great!!


Sincerely,
Gour (new Amanda user preferring to read/post_to mailing lists via
Gmane)

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Re: Amanda vs Bacula

2011-03-01 Thread Gour
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:01:28 -0700
Charles Curley charlescur...@charlescurley.com wrote:

 Nope. You leave virtual tapes on the hard drive. You don't bother with
 tapes at all. 

Ahh...but I want to continue using my LTO-2 drive and tapes.

 Oh, and something I missed earlier: you can span tapes. (Defined as
 sending one backup to more than one tape.) You set a configuration
 value to the maximum number of tapes to span. E.g.: I allow two. Most
 of the time Amanda uses one. 

OK. That's nice to hear.

 However I have a few large DLEs. Those span two tapes when they get
 a full backup. It works just fine on vtapes.

Same here. Converting one old Hi-8 video tape, means 30GB of data.

 With physical tapes, you would need a changer or a human attendant.

Only human servant is on disposal here. :-)


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: Amanda vs Bacula

2011-03-01 Thread Gour
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:12:26 -0300
Fernan Aguero fernan.agu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't use dump if you're planning to migrate. You may decide later to
 use dump(1) once you're settled with an OS/platform.

Ahh...this is good point.

Thank you. We'll use tar then.

 If you use more exotic filesystems (reiserfs, xfs) you may need to
 use yet another dump command.

On Linux I use ext4, but plan to use zfs on FreeBSD.


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: Amanda vs Bacula

2011-03-01 Thread Gour
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:21:36 -0700
Charles Curley charlescur...@charlescurley.com wrote:

 Go right ahead. My concern is that physical tapes die, often
 unexpectedly, and at that time your choice is either to buy a new tape
 drive or toss your tapes. 

Well, hard disks die too. :-)

 The latter is attractive if you already have a known good
 alternative up and running.

In order to have some redundancy, Bacula has 'Copy Job' option to
duplicate volume. Probably it can be (somehow) achieved in Amanda
setup?


Sincerely,
Gour

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